DO YOU NEED DSP? Audient iD14mkii VS Apollo Twin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Do you need DSP on an audio interface? A comparison of the differences between these two, Best-In-Class Audio Interfaces: The $299 Audient iD14mkii VS the $999 Universal Audio Apollo Twin Duo.
What are the differences between the new id14mkii and the Apollo Twin? How do they sound? How do they perform? Find out in this, the ultimate audio interface comparison, featuring a converter test and all the info you need to know about the Apollo Twin Unison preamps and monitoring system.
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📔 CHAPTERS
0:00 Audient iD14mkii VS Universal Audio Apollo Twin
1:00 Answering Your Questions
1:39 Desktop Functionality
2:42 DI Input Comparison
3:25 DI Input Audio
4:14 Unison Preamps
4:49 Which Preamps are Noiser at Full Gain?
5:10 Can These Devices Power an SM7b?
6:11 Preamp Audio Comparison
6:54 Advanced Monitoring
7:49 Can You Bypass The Preamps?
8:26 Headphone Amplifiers
8:58 Do USB-A or UAB-C Cables Affect the Headphone Amplifier?
11:13 Mixing Apps & Apollo DSP
12:35 Expandability
13:35 Converter Comparison Test
16:55 Analysis
17:23 Outtake
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Very well done comparison. And thank you for taking all the time to do the 100 round-trip conversion/preamp test.
You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂
That 100 roundtrip test is insane! It multiplies the subtle differences and shows what’s actually is going on. Hope to see more of those on your channel
Thorough, no-nonsense review. Only recently found this channel. Really liked the idea of putting the audio through 100x to highlight any converter degradation which wouldn't have been noticeable on one pass. You put a shed-load of work into this. 👍
Thanks, David. It was a lot of work but if people find it useful then it’s worthwhile 🙂
The question is in which situation would you record your audio this way?! 😂
@@jaovao That’s not the point og the test.
Very thorough comparison! Thanks for a great video! I really appreciate how you went through every feature on both!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching 🙂
The amount of work and editing you is huge. This is the video I was looking for. Thanks alot brother 😊.
Thanks for appreciating 😊🙏
I don't know about mic preamps, but I can confidently say that Audient id's instrument input is on par with some way more expensive audio interfaces. I've personally tested it against an 1500$ Apogee interface, and it's just as musical, and good sounding. It's crazy, but true.
Looking for an audio interface. The main task is to record an electric guitar. I'm looking at the id4 mk ii, but a friend recommends rme Baby Face pro. In your opinion, does it make sense to overpay for rme? will I hear the difference? Thank you
absolutely crazy review, so much work put in. now I wanna get both products 😝🥂
It was a LOT of work. But worth it for people I hope 🙂🤘
The recorded audio x100 test is a real testament to you effort as a reviewer. I absolutely subbed. Bravo sir. 👍🏻
Thanks, Michael 😊🙏
yeah what a real life scenario...
You and Julian do the best things,tricks and tips for the studio gears! Respect for both!
Thanks, Kenzor. 🙏
@@EdThorne This is the reality! You're very welcome like always! 🙏
@@EdThorneAfter a year of purchasing an apollo solo usb I can say that it's a great interface even if it doesn't have enough dsp on the console or in the mix, but since with native I can say that it's better. I am satisfied with both it and the plugins, but I wanted it to work on mac as well. In the future I have to get at least a quad satellite. I think that for more versatility and a workflow without limitations, I have to buy an id14 mkii...
Absolutely great review!
Thank you 🙂🙏
Super awesome video bro! You are the best! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Alexey. This one took a whike
Thank you! Amazing stuff. I had so much problems on the Apollo Twin X. I just returned it yesterday. It just was not good for my new Mac M1. Im going to get this one!
Ah, I’m sorry to hear that. It’s a convoluted install method on M1s. I had to do it twice it get it to work. The Audient is much easier to navigate and still great 🙂
@@EdThorne yessir I look forward to it! Thanks for msg
This is such a great review! Loving the Audient !
Thanks maaaate! The audient is awesome. So good for the money.
Great information here, thank you!
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful 🙂
After one year used Audient iD14mkii. I am very satisfied with this product but I want to try Apollo Twin too!
Which is good now ?
Great video comparison. This channel will grow.
Thanks, Jay! Appreciated!
I just upgraded to the id44 mkii from the orginal Apollo Twin. My god! the difference is massive! Great video! Thank You ! : )
im going do the same i have a question converter wise is it a big sound difference ?? between the to
@@Astro-by8gf To my ears clarity of Audient is a standout and stereo width is bigger. Apollo still great though. At the end of the day it's all about the music. : )
@@theguitarclubonline appreciate the reply bro
What a review!! this is gold! Im going to get the ID14 mk2. Thanks for your perfect speak english, im a Latin american person and your pronunciation make it very easy.
¡Saludos cordiales!
Disculpe la pregunta pero ¿de qué país es usted?
Justo tengo una iD14 MKII a la venta y esta completamente nueva por si se encuentra interesado
Thank you, Isaac. I’m glad it’s helpful 🙂
@@jonathanlp64 Chile!
@@isaacpezo7206 Oh comprendo... Soy de Guatemala
True very clear and understandable English.
Great vid! Thanks a lot man!
You are very welcome, thanks for watching :-)
I'm glad you mentioned the phase shift on the x100 Audient. It made me wince.
I owned a studio in 90's and would make a good profit take out enough to pay bills and put the rest back into studio to keep competitive. So when plugins came about I got off the hardware train as soon as possible. And you nailed it with the comment about how skill set matters more than anything. Just master what plugins you have. With the amount you save on buying 1 piece of hardware you can buy most all the best vst plugins you will ever need. ( if you buy them on sale)
Excellent, Ed!
Glad you liked it!
its great, man!
What a review !! GREAT :-)
Glad you liked it 🙂
Also nice the Austrian Audio OC818 pair ... Thank you for your review.
Beautiful mics! Thanks for watching 🙂
I'm currently in the market for a new interface, mainly for mixing clients' music, and the audio quality difference between the Apollo and Audient is almost imperceptible. I think I'll get the Audient and use the extra money to further improve the acoustic treatment in my room and tuning my monitoring system.
Smart move
That's wise.
When using Ableton Live 11, will the Apollo leverage the onboard DSPs for processing Ableton virtual instruments and plugins or are the DSPs only limited to processing UAD plugins? Thank you.
I think I need this, thanks
Awesome review with great production values. The only thing missing is a test of the Apollo headphone output. Rumor has it that it’s too weak to drive 250 ohm headphones and above. I know the Audient can deliver in that department (both via USB3 or the old generation w/ external power supply), but the Apollo Solo/Twin headphone output seems almost like a taboo topic with very few online discussions and no real consensus. I’d hate unboxing a premium interface only to find it barely audible in my BD DT-880 250 ohms, especially knowing the Audient can handle it.
My comparison of the headphone outputs is at 8:26 in the video. There's very little difference and both can handle high impedance headphones well, although you will need most, if not all of the output. The Apollo headphone is not affected by thunderbolt power transfer because it is mains power supplied, so there's no need to do that test.
I can drive my 300 ohm HD650's
Interresting how the apollo smoothes out the harsh signature of the music in the loopback test...the audient sounds very kitchen radio like, but the apollo adds a nice pillow effect. I actually prefer the apollo loopback to the mastered file, as it has way more soul and makes it sound much more interresting. Maybe 30-50 passes would make a good compromise of fidelity and vibe?
This was 50 (or 100 passes, I can’t remember).
Great video. I have a question (I'm a beginner sorry) if I need to send signal audio from my Strymon Iridium in Line mode to the interface, do I have to select something in the interface software for select Line input rather than mic? I need to use a 6,3 jack from my Iridium to the interface. thank you
Test aside, the guitar on the converter comparison sounds amazing wow
That’s David D’Andrade on guitar (check out his Insta). You can hear the full track here: open.spotify.com/album/3WZWJfHlOkTDy9faRObW8j?si=02FUnYzVR8atC0PBXpB6SQ&dl_branch=1
When putting my latest studio together I could have afforded either of these. I chose Audient iD44. Similar sound quality, I was a bit shocked when I heard the dullness of both on the 100 times recording test, this should not put anyone off these devices. I actually preferred the sound of the Audient and it's a joy to use, doesn't try to lock me into a closed system plugin business model and is clearly head and shoulders above everything else in its price range and several hundred dollars more. The next step up from the Audient is not an Apollo or an RME, a step up from this interface is many thousands more, I believe the iD44 and the iD4 Mkii (which has very similar specs) are in the same bracket of quality of the Apollo and RME's but cost drastically less money.
I paired mine with an ASP 800 and will eventually buy an ASP 880 to go with it. How good is this brand? I spend zero time worrying about upgrading my interfaces and won't unless I have several thousands (maybe tens of thousands) dollars spare.
UAD seem to attract the same sort of fanboy loyalty that Apple computers do and I understand that, but the onboard DSP ain't a thing any more now the Mac M1 eats heavy plugins cross hundreds of tracks for breakfast. The Audients are not a step down in quality, check out Julian Kraus' bench testing. I can't wait for him to get the new UAD interfaces on his desk,I think we're in for a surprise, not in a good way. Pay close attention to the dynamic range in and out of the Volt.
I love your work Ed and I hope you don't mind a fellow northerner putting his 2 penneth in.
Thanks, Trevor. Yeh the Audient stuff is great. I’m using two 880s for drum pres. the Apollo system isn’t necessarily a closed Universe but it is an expensive system I agree. Personally, I think it’s unrivalled in terms of functionality.
Julian Krause’s review of the Volts will be interesting for sure. I believe I have a review unit arriving soon.
PS, always good to hear from a fellow northerner. 🥳
Audient interfaces are Industry recommended interfaces. So what's more.
@@HarvinderSingh-yy8th Well so is the competition lol
I have an M1 Ultra, and when I use input monitoring in Logic, I experience significant delay, even without any effects. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but onboard DSP still seems really good, even with M1 Macs.
@Mopsie You’re not meant to use input monitoring when using an Apollo. Monitor through the Console app and turn software/input monitoring OFF in Logic!!!!!
So I have ID14 mk II and it’s connected via external monitor’s usb 3.0 hub. Therefore I looked for A to C cables and got ones with “3.0” specifications…nevertheless- I’m getting that distortion at max volume on my HD600. So I tested the ID14 connected stright to MacBook with a thick Thunderbolt cable- and distortion was indeed gone. Now - I would never need this much volume. Question is - does this distortion appears only when on max volume or it’s there even at lower volumes but is just harder to hear?
Great video, thanks! Can you please tell me how important it is to bypass the built-in preamplifiers? I'm going to buy some good expensive preamp, but my card has combined microphone and line inputs. As I understand from the reviews, there is no way to bypass the built-in ones. Should I buy a preamp or will the built-in one reduce the quality of the external one? I have an Audient ID14 MK2
Almost a $600 difference for a Similar sound ! I’ll go with the Audient !!!
The preamp quality is almost the same on all audio interface currently. But the apollo is not only an audio interface it is mainly a power full DSP which handle in real time many power full plug ins. If you are not interest by UAD plugin for sure you better keep your money. But check the quality of the Bass amp or Guitar or reverb uad plug in, it can change your mind.
I'd say save up $1000 more and go for the apollo. It's more of an eco system than just an audio interface.
ahh but if you're a vocalist you'd be missing out on the most amazing feedback of your life. real time autotuning and mixing is heavenly
The Apollo is much better. Don't be fooled
I don’t use plugins . I use external for everything . I just believe the real deal sounds better than plug ins for my opinion. So I rather go for the Audient
Thats the funniest pronunciation of my name hahah😁
Thank you for comparing di inputs. Great review as always ☺️👍
Aaah, I’m sorry, Leon, forgive me. Thanks for the question. How should it be pronounced phonetically?
@@EdThorne its not wrong it just sounds funny to me😁. Im from Croatia and we dont speak English here so I dont hear english version of my name that much often. Dont worry about it ❤️😁.
@@LeonRikalo Haha, ok. 🙂
Thanks for checking what I asked. Now, I can see it clearly, I should buy an apollo and an audient. Greetings!
Thanks for the good question. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, forgive me if I didn’t 🙂
@@EdThorne Perfect. Thank you!
Thanks for the great video. I interested about not id14 , id44 Audient and the original cables interfaces is 2.0 ...its better to buy other cable USB C-A 3.2 for a great quality ? Headphones Monitoring ? ( I used Beyeardynamic 700 pro X).. Its Amazing why originaly cable not a 3.2
This dude on the TH-cam machine said I needed an Apollo to win a Grammy 🤣 so I'm gonna order the Audient.
Which dude told you that? 😉
I have also seen that video. 5 things you need for home studio to win a grammy.
😂😂😂
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Wow the loop playback was very surprising.
Thank you very much...
You’re welcome. I hope it was helpful.
Wonderful Review 👌, i would always go with Audient..."💫
Can U tell me where i can hear the complete Track od the Backgroundmusic?
Thanks😃
It's between the volt 276 and the id14 for me. Any thoughts?
Great job!!! I have my audient in home. Maybe I check the new generation of Apollos
Thanks, Marcos. I hope I pronounced your name correctly, please forgive me if I didn’t 🙂
@@EdThorne perfect pronunciation. Don't worry. Greetings from Spain
Hi! I'm being offered an Apollo Twin Duo (heritage edition), but no "X" at $540. Should it be the MK2 or previous version? Would it be worth the money? Thanks.
Hola un saludo desde España 🙌🙌 me gustaría hacerle una pregunta, tengo una apogee duet 2 grabó guitarras flamencas, clásicas con un neuman km184, podría mejorar mi sonido con una audient id14 o Apollo twin ? Todo el mundo me habla bien de mi apogee duet 2 pero pienso que es muy antigua y no sé si estos modelos más modernos podrían darme un salto de calidad ? Muchas gracias ayudame 😅😅😅
Excelente...más vídeos ilustrativos en español.... Gracias
Thank you very much for the video, I will buy the Audient iD14. I will only work with mixing and mastering and recording vocals and guitar. I'm starting now and I think it will suit me very well according to your video.
I really liked your image quality, which camera are you using?
The specs on the chart are wrong
Mic input dyn range:
- Apollo = 118 db
- audient =113 db
Mic input Noise
- Apollo = - 127 db
- audient = - 129 db
With Apollo you basically pay the software and the DSP capabilities.. But there is not much difference in the Hardware compartment..
Thanks for the video, well done
Double check the labelling on the chart👌 (Also check which models you/I am referring to)
I noticed the same thing. Something wrong about those specs. Audient ID14 MK2: Mic input dynamic range is 113,1 dBu (J. Krause...), no 101 dBu as Ed said. But otherwise good info.
Hey Ed. I've been comparing an Apollo Twin X Thunderbolt with an Apogee Symphony Desktop. As clean as the Apogee is, I actually quite like the slightly more open sound of the Apollo vs the somewhat 'squashed' sound of the Apogee (almost like a dynamic mic sound-at least to my ear). Plus have had the issue with the Symphony where sometimes when I unplug, and come back after a time, it fails to be read by my Mac and I have to restart the interface.
However, my question is whether you know anything about the audible slight popping when increasing or decreasing the gain on the Apollo... seems to track exactly with each level up, and crucially it gets recorded! I searched a bit and see others have had this exact issue, with no solution. Sometimes I need to ride my gain while recording, so this becomes a problem. Wonder if you had any thoughts...? Cheers.
Hi Matthew. I know exactly what you mean about the squashed feeling of the Apogee interfaces. Re the gain popping, just out of interest, why are you changing the gain mid-performance? And, are you using a Unison preamp when this is happening?
@@EdThorne Hey Ed. Thanks for your reply. I do a fair amount of Looping/ADR work, which sometimes might involve a scene where we're shouting and then settle down to speaking level, etc... It's not often but happens on occasion. When you say about the Unison, isn't that the preamp that is inside the Apollo? Ta
Hey Ed. Sorry, in answer to your question about the Unison... NO, not applied... Just straight out of the interface as is...
You couldn’t tell a difference in sound using your sennheiser 650? Would there be a difference if used an affordable dedicated Dac and amp?
Just ordered the MKii yesterday (:
Nice. You won’t be disappointed.
I’m looking to upgrade my FR Solo for my live-streaming piano on twitch. I am overwhelmed and have thought about at least six interfaces but can’t make a decision. Looking for something wit midi, at least 2 inputs preferable more, sterling sound with good headroom that doesn’t clip. Hopefully this video might help me out. Watching now.
The UA Volt might be of interest. Or if you need a LoopBack feature for streaming, check out the Evo by Audient - don't be fooled by it's price - it is one of the best performing interfaces!
Can you compare with usb pre 2 and why the price is too high ?
i've heard that the Audient ID14mkii doesn't work on OS Big Sur.... is that true? i have a macbook pro M1 and i would love to purchase the device, it would be a pity not being to do it because of software incompatibility
It works fine on Big Sur and M1. Software too 🙂
Thank you! iD4 or 14 is the best one for price!
Go by how many inputs/outputs you need over price.
@@EdThorne sure thing 😊
Had an apollo but purchased an id44 later. I prefer the warmness that the mic pres add. That is confirmed in the 100x loop test here which would never represent real world situations. As well, I wouldn't ever describe it as signal degradation as the Audient pres are well known to add warm color which is something some people look for on a recording. I found the uad sterile without adding a unison pre. Uad is a money sink when adding proprietary plugs so i jumped ship. All in all, they are both great though. The comparison here is a little misleading. You can't really compare pricing as outlined as you will be spending much more on the uad for plugins to fill out its capabilities. The audient is a basic soundcard without the added expense. Great video. I did bounce back and forth between 15:50 and 16:30 and there really isn't that much a difference in sound between the 100 pass tests. To me at least. The audient really is a lot of bang for the buck.
Absolutely ! would certainly prefer id 14 mk2..a bang for the buck..
How to use a Guitar Instead of a Mic for Inserts (Sends & Returns)iD24. I connected my guitar to use it with a Compressor Console, but the sound went Off!
very interesting video, can you please compare the apollo twin x with the apogee desktop and the RME babyface pro fs, thanks
I’ll see what I can do 👌
@@EdThorne Thank you
this video is great
Thanks. I hope it’s helpful.
Thank you
How much guitars can I put in the line with the ID14mkII, at the same time? Just one?
Hey is it because of how its played or did the Apollo sounded more expressive and better than id 14 in DI input test? this kind of worries me if i should get it or not.
Shrewd observation. The performances are virtually identical.
@@EdThorne Okay 😊 thx for the reply
Can you please compare the Arturia Mini Fuse & Micro Fuse to this two?
i have akg k702 ..please tell me which one have more headphones gain for akg k702
very very good video！thank you～
Thanks, Steven!
Why haven't I hot the bell yet? Hitting the bell now. Ding Dong. Tinnitus here. lol
You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)
Thanks ....
You’re welcome 🙂🤘
thank u for making this video !. i have a question if u dont mind me, when using the mk2 if i turn my pc into sleep mode or restart the pc do i have to re adjust the volunme knobe every time i turn pc on cause ive read that in mk1 you have to re adjust volume everytime u restart pc is it the same ,:( ?
thank u for helping us !!!!!!!
Good question. I didn’t notice this if it’s a problem with the mkii. But having your monitor output reset to zero every session is not a bad thing. You’ll probably gradually increase the volume over the course of a session and the next day get a shock at how loud it was when you left it the day before.
Seems like 2 Hi-Z inputs of Interfaces like the Focusrite 2i2 is quite the killer feature for some. I don't want to go back to only having 1...
嘿，您的视频对我有很大的帮助，不知道您能否翻译我的语言，我想问一下，在我们这里，有很多网友说id14的eq高频太多，两头翘起来，导致最终混音容易出错。这个您怎么看。
I have ID14 mk ll and it's amazing. Looked through the whole TH-cam to choose the best interface and didn't missed.
Good choice 🙂👌
Excellent
How would you compare the Audient Id14 MKi vs the focusrite 2i2 3rd gen in terms of audio quality
audient its far better!
but i prefer ssl2
I ordered my audient id14 mk2 and after watching this video I think it was a great choice. Obviously Apollo is better but it's not necessary in your home studio. It's such a great alternative! I'm a little shocked how fast technology is going forward. Thanks Ed for you comparison. It was really helpful. Greetings from Poland! 😁
Hi Marcell, the iD14mkii is a great interface! A sound choice and investment. Thanks for watching 🙂🙏
Audient interfaces are Industry recommended. So you went right
@putalawea equisde you can make 20K a year and get that lol
do you still use it with no problems? I want to get ID4 as I don't need more channels, but I`ve heard many people having different malfunctioning problems with Audient line and bad technical support
Hi Ed do you recommend using a DI box with the Audient. Or is it fine without.
You shouldn't need a DI box with an interface - that's what the interface is for.
What do you think about Antelope. They also have onboard plugins i believe. Thanks for the excellent video.
I think the ZenGo is a fantastic interface, and serious competition for both of these devices. The preamps are probably cleaner, and the converters are very clean and detailed. You can use more plugins on each channel strip with the Antelope over the Apollo because their plugins are less DSP intensive when used as inserts. The Apollo has Unison technology which physically re-configures the impedance and gain staging of the preamps to replicate the analog hardware they're emulating - and it does this very well! The Apollo is still more advanced in terms of monitoring (although the Antelope is probably the second most advanced system I've seen), but the ZenGo allows you to record a wet and dry copy of each input channel which is awesome! I may do a full comparison video on all this.
@BillyFreethought See here 🙂 th-cam.com/video/MV9Gz8m7hUc/w-d-xo.html
Does anyone have experience using "Pro Tools" and "Reason" on Audient id14? Thank you
Hey great review. I have a doubt. You say to choose an interface with usb 3 to improve headphone monitoring. But the Audient one is only usb2.0. When you do the test you compare different cables, not protocols. So in conclusion, it's better to use the usb C cable instead of the usb A? Is that what makes the difference? Thanks!
Yeh I tried a USB-2.0 and 3.1 cable and there is a power supply difference which affects the amps (only slightly but it was audible).
@@EdThorne But a usb 3.1 cable into a USB 2.0 interface you mean? Is this cable included or you bought it separately? I assume they include two usb2.0 cables (one type A and one type C) thanks!
@@marcpeiron_studio I had one lying around. Not provided I don’t think.
Would you consider reviewing the Sound Devices MixPre 3 II?
Hi
i can't afford apollo solo or twin
What Would You Recommend
SSL2 or The Audient 24
i use it for recording music mixing also mastering
iD24 all day!
Hi, thanks for the great video. I am looking everywhere and can't find the answer to this question. I am using way too many VST instruments, have 6-7 Kontakt windows open along with Superior drummer etc. My question is this: Does the DSP in UAD Apollo or any DSP sound interface support the computer processing power while using VSTis, or DSP only gives support to CPU ONLY for the mixing plugins like UAD plugins?
It's only for UAD plugins
since ssl2 is similarly priced to audient id14 which is better for di ?
ID14 mkii is industry recommended. So what to think.
do you have any videos on copying a DAW to an external hard drive SSD for portability. I am using REAPER.
No, but isn't that a simple 'Save As' (and change location) process...?
@@EdThorne wTching the video it would seem like it but,,, not working for some reason.
Will the UAD interfaces (i.e. Twin X Duo) blow out a set of Active speakers (Monitor out, fed from Optical, or TB3 in/
I don't know why you'd push them hard enough to find out...
@@EdThorne Haven't yet; I'm currently conducting research into which speakers work best with a UAD, without the need for a separate amplifier.
@@zak-of-all-trades9638 Ah, ok. Both these devices has MEGA loud speakers outputs. I’ve used KRKs, Adam’s and Neumanns with the Apollo and all work and sound great.
@@EdThorneWhat about Klipsch? I just don't want to spend my money on active speakers that will be blown out by an Apollo, or passive speakers that will be essentially useless without it.
@@zak-of-all-trades9638 I don’t know Klipsch. Active speakers these days are really good and won’t blow up easily. Passive speakers depend on impedance and power rating also difficult to blow but require some user knowledge of the above.
Honestly the only way I could see myself going up from my Audient ID14MKII would be to go to an Appolo system - but that's not something I can justify until music is my day job and not my night job
Hey hello Ed :)
I only do voice recordings at home and Im thinking about to switch my audio interface because Im not satisfied with my focusrite scarlett solo even if everyone seem to commend it (I need to turn the gain almost until the end to have a good signal but its still very low and if I turn it a little further the signal is blasted). Well, Ive watched your video and it seems that youve made a lot of experience in all the different kinds of audio interfaces :D ive also read of the audient id4 - is it comparable to the audient id14, do you know something about it? or do you know something about the motu m2 or motu mikrobook2? could you give me an advice maybe? :)
would be great and sorry for my english - im german ;D
Oh and if necessary: Im using the rode nt1a mic^^
Sounds like you’re powering a dynamic mic and need a high gain interface. Try the SSL2 or M-Audio 193 (62dB input gain on both). The audient is great but not much more gain (+10dB of digital gain available however in the iD App but it’s not proper preamp gain).
@@EdThorne thanks for the quick answer and advice! I'll look for these. And the rode nt1a is a condenser mic :)
@@cr4shtestdummy Oh yeh, I glossed over that bit, sorry. How come you need nearly full gain (56dB) with a condenser? Sounds like you’re really far away from the mic…
@@EdThorne Just about 20cm I guess (7.8")? I dont know, when I record its always that low. My techmate said that my interface is crap :D
Do your prefer the mk2 interface instead ok x version of the Apollo interface
These are two of my favourite interfaces but the reality is, although the Audient mixer app is fantastic, the Apollo monitoring functionality is far superior. The ability to monitor through UAD plugins AND print these to your audio with zero latency is unbelievable.
Amazing review Ed, thanks A LOT!
Was just thinking of selling my apollo twin for an ID14... But after this I think I'll keep my apollo.
Thanks for the guitar and bass recordings to compare !
You’re welcome, thanks for watching. The Audient is very reasonably priced so you could get one and have the best to both worlds 🙂
By the way, I think your specs are wrong Ed. The preamp dynamic range of the Audient isn't 101dB, that's SNR signal to noise ratio.
@@charlesbassiste I’d say I’d double check and amend it... but I can’t 🤣 I’ll check and out a footnote in the description though. Thanks.
@@EdThorne yeah I understand the pain of editing a video...
However, these technical specs are always tricky to decode !
For guitar buy cheap and best TASCAM celesonic 20*20HF. Watch ED'S review.
can you do a test between Apollo and SPL Crimson?
Thanks for this video great work.
I have a problem when recording gibson explorer with passive T500 magnets, my signal clip though no matter how I set the gain pots. This is not the case when I record Harley Benton P bass.
Do you connect the guitar directly to the card or do you have some DI to reduce the input signal?
Do you have this experience with any of your guitars with passive electronics?
What pickups did you record with?
Thanks, I hope the video was helpful. I don’t play guitar so can’t comment on pickups. Are you using the Hi-Z input on your interface for the Gibson? And are you using an amp sim before it?
@@EdThorne Yes, I connected the guitar direct to the front instrument input. But the signal clips without any additions to the signal and without amplifier simulations.
@@Projamusic The instrument input should have a Hi-Z selector switch to introduce a higher impedance circuit for hi gain inputs such as your guitar. A DI box can also do this.
@@EdThorne This Audient Id14 dont have Hi-Z selector switch. Scarlet 2i2 dont have this issue. Bad for Audient!
@@Projamusic The iD14s have a JFET Hi-Z input on the front panel.
Hey! Can the AUDIENT iD14 mkii be sufficient enough to power the NEUMAN 103 at an optimal level?
Absolutely. The 103 is a condenser mic which typically has a high output and the iD14mkii has 58dB of preamp input gain which is loads for a condenser. Plus, there’s an additional 10dB of digital gain available on each channel in the iD Mixer App. That’s a great recording combination 👌🔥
@@EdThorne Ed you're a star. love the quick response also!
Also another question:
Shall I use this combo on FL Studio or Logic? (Soley for Recording rap and singing Vocals, mixing and mastering to an already made beat, and would prefer to stick to the stock plugins on both DAWS).
Which one you reckon?
@@TeionZ I’ve been using Logic for 15 years, and I haven’t used FL Studio so I can’t really comment fairly but Logic is considered up there with ProTools and used in professional studios for many good reasons. See if you can get a demo of both and see which feels best. Logic probably has an instrument sample library larger than all the other DAWs put together too, it’s immense!
@@EdThorne ah okay my friend, thank you very much! Will get that Combo for sure. Then will find some more answers on which DAW - I subbed btw!
I've been trying to decide what interface I want and well, I just can't find any reason not to pull the trigger on the id14. It's perfect for what I need and the price is right. Maybe someday if I win the lottery or something I'll switch to a UA environment. Lol
Hi Kevin, the iD14 is my fave under $300 (alongside the Volt). The iD monitor app, assignable iD button, and ADAT expandability make it a highly functional interface!
Can you do a comparison between SSL 2+ vs Apollo Twin MKii?
Already done.
I would definitely like to go with the Apollo or any UAD interface but they do not play nicely with pcs. If they ever decide to be more compatible with windows pcs I'm in.
The majority of negative comments I hear about ANY audio interface, is usually from PC users having driver issues. Mac users simply never have these problems. Of course as well, the more complicated the device, the more likely driver issues, and the Apollos are COMPLICATED! The simplicity of the Audient in comparison is brilliant but highly effective!
They have an apollo solo usb c 3.0 i own one it pick it over the audient for the fact that it just sounds way better.
Hi there would the audient be great interface for the Genelec 8010 monitors?
Yes. It’s got decent converters.
I have some analog compressors and eqs as well as a few analog synths. I need about than 14 inputs. Can I piggyback more than 1 non-UA adat expanders somehow to the Apollo Twin?
No. The Twin only processes 8 ADAT inputs.
I could perceive the depth of the Apollo on the bass guitar test- more depth than the Audient, maybe not a deal breaker but if you listen close enough, you might hear- or rather, feel it.
Yeah, and the bus processed drums had much much clearer high end with the Apollo. You could really hear the hi hat come alive, as the audient sounded a bit more dead and sterile in the hi Department. Imo.