Beatstars Contracts Exposed: Publishing, Lease vs Exclusive Rights, More!
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- Why do Beatstars contracts give producers a writer's share when producers don't write songs? Why buy unlimited lease vs exclusive rights when you can't profit from non-exclusive leases? These two questions are full of false information. Watch this video to clear up the confusion about beat leasing contracts and arm yourself with knowledge.
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@#REAL A1-EXODUS #BIBLERAPPER I don't know what you're talking about, never heard of copyrighted.com but your best bet is asking them for help since you're using their services
Just subscribed! thanks for sharing the great info and content.
Appreciate the video, my guy! As a producer, what should my next step be to ensure I receive my share of royalties and such once I sell the beat on BeatStars? Is that where ASCAP or BMI comes in?
hello sir, how do you collect your 50% royaties?
What if I want to make an offer for a beat. Will it be tooken down, and will the producer still be granted 50% or will all those licensed rules be at my command as the new exclusive owner of the beat w my choice of the producer %
Essentially just read the contract to see what rights you do or don't have. Regardless of what it's called (unlimited, exclusive, etc.) Just read it.
The problem with Beatstars.com is that it doesn’t allow you to see the full license agreement until after you purchase the beat. The only thing you can see if the usage term which is pretty straightforward. The huge issue is, most of the agreements prevent you from making any money off of the sales of the song you create. The 5 page agreement mainly state that the producer owns 100% of the publishing royalties, 100% of the mechanical royalties, and you don’t own your Masters. You are only entitled to 50% of the performance royalties. I think it’s wrong to not be able to view the contract in full prior to buy the beat. If there is a way to view the contract beforehand I would appreciate some feedback.
@@cuzbensedsopublishingllc9680 you are right. Because of this I'll probably copy and paste the contracts and put it on my website so that customers can scroll down and see the contracts.
AJSMP STUDIOS Thanks. I appreciate your response
CUZ BEN SED SO PUBLISHING, LLC it’s fucked up that the producers own 100% of the publishing
@@Esoeso933 damn good idea. The bad thing is that most producers dont have their own website. They use the stock beatstars website only.
At the end of the day having thee ability to make music is special and powerful. We should stick together like no other group of people. It's sad that we just can't use common decency and work together to do what's right across the board. The rapper or singer is giving exposure by showcasing the beat. Especially if they're good. The rapper should be thankful for the beat. If I blow up off a song why wouldn't I reach out to that beat maker and try to help change their life? It hurts my soul that humans are so savage and need "legal" babysitters.
right half the time it's hard to contact ppl off youtube but u got a banger...what to do smh
perfectly said !!
I agree
That’s why I said with my producer , I’m giving him 60% and me 40 because he mostly do the mix and master and the beats maker . I’m just the vocals lyrics and creative. But with out the best and the master and mix it he creativity means nothing
I can agree as an artist who producing his own music i can understand the hard work producers go thru..as rappers n singers,dancer n producer..I can really honestly say producers deal with more....ive seen producer turn trash ass songs into hits because of a beat...its
rare u see a great artist do great on a trash beat...if the beat is trash its not goin to attract your human frequency which will cause u to say " turn dat shit off or ignore the lyrics even if they are nice...plus producers have to break down mixing n panning...n have to make due with what he or she may have because that art may have recorded in somebody's studio n probably has a terrible recording n can't do it over or doesn't want to because the emphasis he may have put on words may be the best in that song n that artist or his team may feel that they may be the best emphasis on it...
It's not a coincidence you showed up in my feed, literally right before uploading my first beat.
right bruh!!!
Question? I was wondering about the part right below that. About the part where it says producer shall obtain 100% of the publisher share 🤨
Yoooo anyone who can answer this would be awesome 😎
No, it’s the Government spying on you.
Yo pain, I wanna thank you man. A rapper just came to me and asked about the splits. Gotta admit that I didn't (fully) understand the whole concept yet. I learned it in less than 13 min. Perfect video 🙏🏻
Happy to help
Cheers Pain, sold my first exclusive today this was really helpful
How can I buy a beat
And become a songwriter on it
Thank you for your videos. Its good to have the scoop from people who work with the music industry. The fact that your a producer who's experienced the negative and positive sides of the music industry makes you that much more valuable to listen to. Oh and that intro beat is awesome.
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Damn! Made it so clear to understand! I think it's the specific terms is what makes artist/singers nervous or confused of just not understanding. Basically everyone is eating all it means! I like how you spoke to the producers about their own contracts as well. Knowledge is power! Thanks for the upload!
Happy to help
let's be honest Dj Pain dodged the real issue which is producers owning 100% of the publishing of the new song. That makes no sense.
@@Mo91100 I waited the whole 13:06 for Pain to address that one! That's why I came to this video!
Avoid conflict by rewriting the licences so that its clearer to read and understand.
As the artist trying to purchase rewrite it ?
@@DezzoGoCrazy If you manage yourself, yes. If you are on label, ask your lawyer to get a new template or have it completely rewritten
I just purchased some beats online & just went through the contract ~ had to come find this video 4 years later for a little more insight !
Bro your beats are crazy. You've helped me alot since I started. Bless you man.
Just got introduced to BeatStars a couple weeks back. You really just cleared up a lot of question. Perfect video bro ✊🏽🎯💯
Can anyone explain the part of the publisher share. I think it says producer shall obtain 100% of the publisher share when registering with your PRO.
Good video brother.
Where a lot of producers go wrong, is that they are using contracts that are incredibly biased towards favoring the producer, contracts written by beat stars that were written by lawyers taking the side of beat stars.
Contracts in which the artist is buying the unlimited agreements or licenses, and contracts where the artist is paying say $300 for a beat, but the producer is still retaining the master recording rights to the new song. That is what we call screwing the artist over.
I do agree with you that it’s really about the relationship and making sure that both people get benefits from the working relationship. Also like you said, knowledge is power and understanding contracts is everything.
Keep rocking
Why would a producer sell master rights for a non-exclusive license? That doesn't make any legal sense at all.
DJ Pain 1 Master rights to the new song my friend. Meaning the artist, who will be marketing and investing capital into the production of music videos and promotional assets, should retain the master rights to the new song.
I’m going to seem annoying. I’m going to seem like a nit picker.
In a nonexclusive license, I am not saying that the artist should retain the composition rights, but I am saying that the artist should retain the rights to the new song.
In the way that Jay Z Got back the rights to his master recordings after his deal and time at DEF jam, as the CEO and president of DEF jam.
We, me and team, always negotiate a new contract then those presented and beat stars, as Beats stars often does not state the terms, duration, extent of the covering of the license, meaning a universal basis, and it also does not address The fact that even when artists purchase the exclusive rights, many producers forget to include unlimited music videos that can be used with the underlying composition. And also the template contract that beat stars has, does not address the fact that the artist and client should also have the right to make modifications to the beat. Technicalities that are maybe anal, but which could come up if there were any disagreements.
It seems that you think I am pointing a finger at you. It seems that you think I’m attacking produces.
It’s going to seem that way, but I’m really just writing to share the side of the artist and what we’ve seen with many contracts on beat stars.
I admire your work and keep up the awesome content.
Well put my friend. It is absolute thievery to to ask for so much money and yet retain so much rights. The Artist has to do the most and invest the most. Its unfair and bias and they wish to cover it up.
@@alejandrohpcb that doesn't legally make sense. Thats like saying, "when I lease this car, I want to own it, but only while I drive it."
@@DJPain1 instead of people griping they should reach out to beatmakers and start reaching out before you use their shit! Then you won't be butt 🤕 and they won't feel like you jacked there shit without paying
The explanation I’ve been looking for! Thank you soo much for the insight with this topic!
Good stuff man! Keep hammering this stuff into the community. It is SO needed.
I always use the "leased building or car" for an example. You can lease a building and make all the money you want but for how long.
YOOOOOO THE FACT THAT YOU SHOWED MY COMMENT, IS HELLA DOPE. I never knew you made this video. Especially 3 YEARS AGO. But now I have more questions lol
Because of people like you the producer community can have stability. Thank you for your work. Mad respect ✊🏾
Producer , composer, writer, arranger and proformance .We can all get paid ! Thanks pain major gems !
Nah. Look every time he said that you can make money of it
Like streaming concerts etc
In reality is WE can make money because you have to do everything and the producer still gets 50% and guess what if your project fails tha producer still made his money, best advice do your own beats, hip hop is just 3 loops and that’s it producers make tens of beats a day a good lyrics take weeks.
Moral of the story is make your own beats! Own the beat 💯 % of the profits! I ain’t giving no one 50% of sht!
So I noticed this one "Unlimited" contract I have with a producer said I can stream for money but can't register to a distributor. But in order to get my shit to stream on Spotify, Tidal, etc, I have to register the record to a distributor. Oh and no commercial sync allowed either. Don't tell me I paid an extra 100-150 bucks just so I can profit off of my 200 Subscribers on TH-cam -__- READ yall contracts people. My dumb ass didn't.
I was confused by a similar clause in a contract I just read. However it was defined further by stating that you can UPLOAD to distribution platforms, but you cannot REGISTER it with them. registering claiming that the work is entirely yours, and the system can then scan other works for people using your work. this cannot be done because the producer has already REGISTERED his beat, so if you attempt to register yours, it will be flagged as a copyright. Maybe you can double check the contract, cause I was incredibly confused and mad when I first read that same thing!
Help me I’m so confused 🙁
@@pndgetsmewetter This is a simple misunderstanding. The phrase of which you speak is not referring to the use of the distribution service, but rather the use of the distribution services "content id".
You can use the distributor, but you are not allowed to register the new song (beat and lyrics) with that distributors content id system. You have to manually register your song with the distributors content id system. In case you are still wondering, your song is not automatically registered when you use the distributor. HAPPY DISTRIBUTING!!
Thank you for all this man, really! You do us a great service, even when you do not owe us.
Thank you for the positivs energy
Another great video discussion. Thank you for much for the clarification! I will probably watch this video couples times cause you unpack a lot.
Damn this had a lot of gems, I need to get my store setup, thank you DJ Pain! 💯
Respect Pain. Dropping jewels on the regular. Still learning the system before I enter this matrix. 🙏🏽
Brilliant content DJ Pain. Appreciate the effort you went into to explain this, thank you.
Contracts can be renegotiated if the song takes off too. The Lil Nas / "Old Town Road" story of buying that beat for $30 on BS, they went back to YoungKio and renegotiated a because the song was going to take off. Doesn't say if that meant larger advance/lesser percentage because he was going to make more on backend, but probably the case. The key is communication. The weird thing to me with the BS producers is that if you were there in the room creating that beat in real time with a major artist, would you be getting 50%? Typically no, but the reason for that is the metrics are totally different when dealing with a major artist vs/ an indie. Upfront vs backend. I get it, you guys need to make a living
That's because he leased it. The song blew up so if he didn't buy the exclusive he would've went against his contract.
Renegotiation is NOT always possible.
Let me put it this way; if Jay-Z was in the room when I produced a beat you'd know I am there, because I belonged there. So, yes. But will it be a high or split percentage? I could NOT say, because at that stage of the game. I would imagine that the number of hands in that jar would be exponential. One thing is for sure: I am getting paid.
Finally someone with direct info 🔋
As a writer I agree with the 50/50. People are just selfish and greedy. Making beats is hard work!
Yeah I don’t mind either. When I make good money from it or start too I’ll purchase beats out right
ok but make a good song with a beat, ruin yourself with studio, videoclips and promotion is tuffer than produce beats and lease it on the web... Producers don't even help when we ask a little help to repost the song on their media or somewhere, to help to push it. 50/50 not fair
@@chokedboy agree once again everybody gets paid before the artist and they still get fleeced on the back end
I’m happy to have found your channel. Thanks for the great content... I guess the part I’m not understanding is if someone licenses the track and uses it, but if a few months later, another artist wants to buy exclusive rights. Would the person who licensed the track initially then lose all their licensing rights, as it would now be exclusive for the person who paid more?... Does my question make sense?
i was asking the same thing, i have not got an answer yet. i want to sell exculsives for rappers because what if i lease a beat, nd then 2 rappers like the same beat, how would that work ? and if someone else decides to get an exclusive, what happens to the rappers that bought the non exclusive beat that is now exclusive ?
You should lay out that other people have previous license and they are still valid, and they only own rights to work they create and not your or other clients rights. You would stop leasing it from that point. If your leases have an expiration once they expire the exclusive holder would be the only one remaining with license, or if your contract offer only a limited amount of streams, downloads, etc then once the person hit that limit they are out of contract and exclusive right holder may be the only one with beat or they may not if leases has no expiration and or limit,.
I have a question, why do some producers want 100 percent publishing and 50 percent of the writers as well. Legion beats give you 50/50 of both writers and publishing, which is how it should be. These producers are just getting greedy asf. And I don’t mean to sound mad or bitter but its just annoying. Rappers need a dope ass beat but ain’t nobody really trying to hear a beat without lyrics or a hook and rappers can do battle rap with no beat and still make money so producers need us too. It’s just make me sick to see how many producers are taking advantage of people that don’t read or understand the fine print.
You sound crazy nobody wants to hear an acapella project but people listen to instrumentals ALL DAY
the default beatstars contract comes like that for some reason with 100% publishing going to the producer, i just found out and changed it. idk why they have it like that😐
@@prodbyachira how did you change it tho ? Because it only lets you
Change is if you want to put in an offer for buying it exclusively ??? You can’t change it if you want to buy it unlimited
then learn to make beats and you won't have to worry
@@ProducedByMERC people listen to instrumentals to WRITE TO THEM. 100 percent of y’all purchases are coming from rappers like me. I offer to pay up to 1,000 for exclusives. You know why I get turned down or no response? because they know they gone get more money buy selling the same beat to multiple people. Y’all need to be ashamed of yourselves. Then want 150 share in a song and then y’all be having crazy fine print like can’t nobody monetize it on TH-cam. Wtf would I want to make a bad investment like that. They thirsty and it shows!
Im entitled to my royalties for everything. An artist exclusively buying my beat means no other artist can get that same beat. Nard and B explained it.
Can anyone explain the part of the publisher share. I think it says producer shall obtain 100% of the publisher share when registering with your PRO.
I appreciate this i just leased my first beats on beatstars and i had the same reaction at first but i started doing some research this actually really helped clear that up for me im gonna keep u in mind for any questions.
I appreciate this gem, thanks for sharing that knowledge. As you said, Knowledge Is Power. Peace.
All your videos are GEMS bro thanks!
To be fair the way we do it is its either all writers royalties to the artist/writer and all production pub to the producer OR A 25X4 split which is the artist and producer split the writers share 50/50 and also the beat publishing 50/50.
Agreed. Publishing is split between the producer/artist/label at an agreed amount. Writers is split between whoever WROTE on the song. Thats it.
Thanks for the break down and congratulations to your success. Keep doing your thing P1!
You bring Value Pain. 👍🏾Thanks.
Its so funny because the contract features are pretty self explanitory, but even i had to come find this video to get a little more understand of what exactly these contracts mean.
Good video man! I had to explain this exact topic to a couple of rappers a month ago. Instead of going back and forth like I've done in the past, I took the route you explained in this video. Did I make a sell?...HELL NAW 🤣, but I need them to understand where we come from as producers! Thank you for always keeping it 💯
Are you a beatstars producer
@@thanoswwhfoe951 I'm not active on there anymore, but I still have beats on that site. Hbu?
Positivity is never 🌽
Thank you for clearing up "writers share."
However what does "Publishers share" entail?
I found a beat I would love to buy and use, the writers share is split 50/50, but the PUBLISHERS share is owned 100 percent by the producer. So what does this mean? I owe 25% of the royalties?
That’s what I understood and the artist is responsible for clearing the samples.
It means the producer gets 75% of the profit that the song makes and you only get 25%.
publishers share should be 50/50 between the writer's unless there's a publishing company involved, then it's a different case
Always clearing stuff up bro 💯
Can anyone explain the part of the publisher share. I think it says producer shall obtain 100% of the publisher share when registering with your PRO.
the deal that producers are giving to the artists is straight up thievery. It makes no sense for a producer to control 100% of the publisher's and only allow the artist to have 25% of the writer's share. Some producers are just as greedy as record labels. Artists please keep this in mind.
It doesn’t work like that. The Writers Share is split between the artist/songwriters and producers, That means if it’s one producer and one artist, both suppose to get 50
straight up and considering 95% of these so called producers these days are just flippin sample packs with a midi keyboard and shit, PLUS the clause that states the licensee is responsible for clearing samples.. as a rapper that has been reading through contracts trynna find out wtf is goin on, seems like a total scam and producers cant even explain their own contracts if you email them about it.
Glad i stay in my bags...
Facts
Thank you for explaining this for the lost ppl 🙏🔥🎧🎶🎹💜
NP
Can anyone explain the part of the publisher share. I think it says producer shall obtain 100% of the publisher share when registering with your PRO.
Thanks, I thought I was buggin when I read that 50% of the writers share. Wtf. 🤔 😬
The thing about the 50/50 split im not down with it, it is the fact that when a project is layed down, its not just make a beat, write the lyrics and its done,
From the song writer side "myself" i have to keep investing in order for the actual project to start making money.
We invest more with time into the project "A lot More" for it to actually make something for itself ..... Videos and Promoting it dont come cheap, producers don't invest money into that... and how can they still want to receive 50%.....
That's just insane to me
Because you don't understand intellectual property. Id challenge you to name just 2 royalty streams that the underlying composition copyright generates and then just two that thr master recording copyright creates, without googling it.
If you cannot do this, it's simply a sign that you don't understand the conversation enough to spend energy fighting an underlying composition split. It sounds like you believe this means a producer is getting 50% of all profits from your song, which couldn't be more false. Choose to either learn or react. You have the power to do either.
@@DJPain1 hey man i cant feel no way because im still not clear on something, that in my mind shold be asimple but i cant get a definitive answer.
A) The underlying compostion mention in the licenses is the beat(instrumental) right? because i keep reading online google where they include lyrics in that definition.
B) If so then i can understand the producer having 100% of the " underlying composition" But the new song one the beat ,the split should be 50/50 right?
@@Lawless187indika 1. The underlying composition is the music in unrecorded form, i.e. lyrics and/or notation on paper.
2. Should be split among writers/publishers.
Thank you for sharing yout knowledge with us. Greatly appreciated. I plan to open a beatstars soon
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only part that kinda sucks is if you do all the work to get it commercialized the beat gets 50% for no work after just making the beat.
9:22 can you explain the bit about getting $15 as opposed to $30 due to the beat having a hook? That was the only thing that went over my head. Very helpful video regardless. Thanks for making this dope and useful content my g. Your work is greatly appreciated 🥂
Spitting 30 with the hook singer
Thanks for the vid. This info is needed! 💯
NP
Advice Please? As a songwriter, I wanted to know if these are good terms for purchasing exclusive rights to a beat.
- The licensee owns 50% of publishing rights.
- Producer Name owns 35% of publishing rights
- Collaborator owns 15% of publishing rights.
These terms just seemed a little off to me. I didn't see anything about writers share as a songwriter.
You are the licensee...
@@DJPain1 Thanks! I am still learning here. I wanted to ACTUALLY read my terms and conditions before purchasing a beat.
3 years ago you made this.... AND STILLLLLLLLLLLLLL every "rapper" who pop's up nowadays wants to argue on some "you want credit for my work" BS. When really, if they weren't so ego driven, they'd learn about performance rights. I even had a non rapper go through this aggrivation with me, Being his song isn't making any money, I left it go. But still... It sucks to do your business right and get told off by someone who is TRYING TO GET INTO THE INDUSTRY.
Hey Eric! I think you do an amazing job explaining all these complex issues but also think it's time that Beatstars gets up to date with its documentation about this. A good example to follow on this would be Tunecore, who has a very comprehensive and well organized set of articles and guides whereas Beatstars resources are rather scattered all around TH-cam and Instagram on several channels. The data is there but it's all over the place, and therefore difficult to find.
Hey Marvin! This video isn't an official beatstars resource, so it's living on my channel. I can't comment on their website, but you could contact them via social media with the suggestion of creating a knowledge base
@@DJPain1 I was confused for a short moment. I don't know why I thought your name was Eric but the Marvin answer gave me a clue... I will most definitely follow your advice on that resources issue. Sometimes when i see your face on a video, I don't check whether it's a Beatstars video or not. I just know the information will be good. But you got my point, right? Anyway, thanks for the time and effort you put in all that, it's always very useful.
@@SamSilk Eric's not a bad name 🤷🏽♂️
Uploaded my first song a few days ago. I was wanting to upload a mixtape by the end of the year, but the beats I’ve purchased vary in number of copies to be sold under the agreement.
Bro wtf beatstars be randomly spacing and entering sentences in my license agreements.
Really?? That's fucked up
Have you tried the full customization feature?
Have you tried the full customization feature?
Main reason I have a personal producer. We can talk about this stuff 1 on 1 without no shenanigans
Thanks for the knowledge! Well appreciated 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Honestly, as a producer, sound engineer, and musician, rappers are more annoying clients to me. If it's not the guy with a solid experience in the industry, it's usually some amateur or even worse the school guy who wants to be a star, of course. No knowledge about laws, how the industry works (even on a high level), the work itself. Don't get me wrong, when it comes to the recording sessions, most musicians know nothing about sound itself. But with beatstars the process of buying tracks is so easy for artists (99% of them would be never able to pay for a producer without beatstars) they could just open the fckn law and read everything about the industry where they want to "make a career": because "career" is something more than liking posts on Instagram.
I really wanted this question to be answered...
If I cop an unlimited everything license and someone else cops the exclusive- what now?
Nice question! I guess its depends on the contract
Great question but i dont think a beat is eligible for exclusive once its leased in any form before. But thats just me thinking, its not verified.
Im in a desperate search for information here, and no producers that I email can explain it clear to me, hopefully you can help. I just need to know how many royalties do I owe to a producer, if the contract states that the writers share is split 50/50 between me and the produer. but the producer owns and controls 100% of the publishers share. What does this mean for me? what percentage of royalites accumulated on distrokid for example, would I owe to the producer? any information would be a great help, thanks!
50% of what you receive ... because like you said, producer owns 100% of publishing meaning you wont see a penny from that, meaning only money you receive (unless you upgrade to exclusive license) will be from the writers share, which you have a 50/50 agreement
@@naweedproductions5729 thanks for the reply! So distrokid royalties contribute to writere shares, and anything else is publishing shares?
The fact that the producer is keeping 100% of the publishing is not sitting right with me. That’s bullshit
Publishing is 200% bro... "PRO" (ASCAP, BMI) and Distrokid, CDBaby, TuneCore is 100%
Learn more about that on internet.
@@naweedproductions5729 False
Very helpful, thank you
Good breakdown. This shyt is so confusing.
Thanks so much for making this, there's one thing I saw on the contract that worried me and that's section 6c (2) - the last part reads "Producer wrote and owns 50% of the composition in the New Song and as the owner of 100% of the Publisher’s share of the New Song."
I'm not sure why it says the producer owns 100% publishing of the new song, it's set that way by default, I'm sorry if you've already covered this 🙏
I changed mine to 50% across the board.
@@DJPain1 same here, thanks for clearing that up.
I'd like to ask something real quick, I thought publisher shares are like copyright share and you can't share em everytime when an artist lease a beat that's why beatstars contract say 100% publisher share of a new song or what's up 🙆♂️ I thought you share publisher share on exclusive only!! Please Clarify that sir @djpain1
@@MillzMcjordan every new song is a new copyright. If what you thought was true, sampling and song covers wouldnt exist.
@@DJPain1 Thanks alot will that 😭🔥💯I really needed this information
I thought 100% publishing already meant you own 50% of the song ?? So why do you need 50% of the writers so we only get essentially 25% of total profit of the song. When WE took the beat and made it into a SONG. That’s trash
I'm going to keep practicing my beatmaking, because I just want to RECORD SOME SONGS AND PUT EM OUT AND I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING BEATMAKING FOR ALMOST A YEAR JUST BECAUSE OF HOW RIDICULOUSLY COMPLICATED BEAT LEASING AND CONTRACTS ARE.... IT TAKES AWAY FROM TIME I COULD BE WRITING SONGS.
ALWAYS GOOD INFO
DJ Pain 1
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Great work
Thank you for explaining brother
The main issue that I have with this is when you are a new artist who is just starting you are automatically taking 50% royalty cut off each song which lasts for 5 years Which is considered a terrible deal if you are trying to make a decent side hustle. Buying exclusively is expensive but worth it knowing that if the song does well you can 2x,5x or 10x in amount when it comes to profit, in the end I believe it comes down to production, quality marketing and talent.
None of this is true. A lot of people believe this and just waste their energy being mad about it though.
@@DJPain1 How can you deny this obvious fact, This knowledge has been confirmed by BeatStars terms and conditions on the lease of unlimited it states for 5 years.
Exclusivity even claims that the ownership would be transferred to the new licensee and own 100% percent of the musical composition thereafter.
I have no money for a lawyer and want to make sure that I am legalizing my music appropriately that it won’t cause any issues moving forward.
@@MindfulComms dude I’m not here to teach you the music business. If you want to book a consultation, I’ll gladly send you a link. But again, you are not splitting 50% of your profits with the producer when you lease and beat and you don’t automatically own all equity in a work when you buy an exclusive beat. I’m trying to help but you’re just being difficult, so I guess read harder. Best of luck.
This is what i dont understand: How can a beat owner sell Unlimited Non-Exclusive to a buyer, and also sell the same beat as Exclusive? The moment a buyer purchases that beat as "Exclusive" and registers it with a content ID system, all of the people who bought the rights for "non-exclusive" are then going to get copyright struck. The definition of Exclusive should be that this beat is not also sold to other people, no? Please help me understand this one man. Also, great video!
Not struck; claimed. And for good reason. Leases expressly prohibit contentid registration. Why? Because when you claim contentid, you claim copyright ownership to the song including the beat. And if you don’t own the beat because you’re leasing it, you’re violating federal copyright law.
@@DJPain1Thank you for responding!
RIght, I definitely understand that. What i'm saying here is- Lets say I want to buy an exclusive beat. I purchase it and everything. Then I go to Register it with the ID system, because I have bought it. Now everyone who leased it will get claimed by me. That's not very fair to people who leased it with the understanding that they would be able to monetize the music they're leasing.
Another thing, this happened to me and was quite frustrating: I leased a beat. The agreement clearly said I had up to 10 million monetizable playbacks. I made an entire music video and published it. Only to get copyright claimed by someone who had registered it with the content ID system! It's against the contract to do such a thing! So I contact the beat maker and he says he cant do anything about it. This system is flawed in my opinion. Exclusive beats should only be sold as exclusive beats.
@@DarkSpaceStudios they can always dispute it by submitting their paperwork or you could whitelist them. That money is so minimal to 99% of all artists that it’s not worth the energy of preemptively getting upset about. Your scenario of 10 million playbacks is far fetched and in that case, the dispute should work. I file about 20 disputes a week because rappers claim they own my beats. It really isn’t a big deal.
@@DJPain1 Interesting, I disputed the problem through youtube and included contracts and paperwork to prove I had the right to monetize the beat. Nothing came of it. Disputing anything through the TH-cam Content ID flags is useless. What a dispute on TH-cam will do is it will go to the person who claims to "own" the song, and they can simply choose to ignore it. I think we're talking about different situations here.
The seller of this beat had not registered it with the Content ID system. Is that the problem? He basically sold these beats and someone registered them and he continued to sell them. So for me to dispute it, I'm probably disputing it against either A. Someone who leased it and illegally registered it. or B. Someone who bought an exclusive version and registered it.
The problem for me and my channel, is copyright claims are bad for the health of my channel. Certain restrictions will apply to my channel if I have claimed content on my channel.
@@DarkSpaceStudios if it’s useless, I wouldn’t win all of my disputes. Not sure what else to say.
If the beat contains a sample on it that producer did not clear is the artist accountable or producer and who pays who if matters reach legal proportions?
Whoever releases the song usually is responsible but the copyright owner can come after all parties
Pain you are a god send to the community 🙏
Thank you for explaining it well ..
If only you would get to the point faster. All the young kids stopped listening 3 min in. 😂😂😂😭
I'm teaching this stuff in elementary schools 🤷🏽♂️
I believe it should be 50/50 tbh you can't get your song out without a beat y'all job is just as important as ours
The fact as a recording artist I have to split 50 percent with the producer when I am the one investing money in marketing for the song to generate revenue, Paying for the song or album to be distributed on all platforms annually, on top of the money I spent for studio time and mastering... It sounds like the recording artist is doing a lot more footwork and investing for the producer to just be collecting a 50 percent To me it sounds more like a 70/30 or a 20/80 split should be more accurate for profit sharings.
You're only splitting the underlying composition 50/50 because the underlying composition is jointly composed and these royalties are paid by third parties. Honest question: How much do you make in performance royalties per quarter average?
@@DJPain1 Yes, the underlying composition is split 50/50 because it is jointly created by the composer and lyricist... But what is it the producer is doing to generate revenue to get their 50 percent? Cause you know as well as I know the lyricist is always pushing that song like their life depends on it...
And what I’m making now is nothing compared to what I’m going to be making... Cause I’m not about to be stupid enough to break off 50 percent of royalties from any third parties to any producer if I’m the one investing and putting in the work for this album or song to make money back...
Especially as a independent artist.
We are interested in 100% profits based off the time, money and work put into everything...
Yet the producers are making 50% profit splits off multiple artists on the same beat! So, my question to you should be how much money are you making off profits quarterly from artists like myself who are putting in all the work?
@@steezyfresh2903 we're just different. I value relationships with collaborators and have never felt the need to cut them out based on a reality I haven't ever experienced. Best of luck to you.
@@DJPain1 these people need to make there own beats! Don't want to pay the beat maker but willing to share 50 percent with producer lol. Producer dont even get song writing credit if they didn't input shit! Providing you money or investing in your music don't give them the rights entitled by composer! Do rap Acapella and then you don't have to share and you and your producer can keep all the money
We lose at both ends as artists unless we also learn to produce our own music. Everyone gets paid upfront except for us and that's why it's difficult to see how we really benefit especially since we have to work constantly to make the song popular. I'm learning how to produce now as it's not working out financially buying beats or working with producers as an independent.
Hey Pain, thanks for all the knowledge you keep feeding us! Is it correct that you are not entitled to master royalties in the standard BeatStars license contract? Do you request a small percentage of the master royalties in your license contract? And is it problematic, in terms of tracking, for publishers and professionals if an artist fills in your artist name instead of your real name in the splits?
Who gets the ad revenue if someone makes a TH-cam video with an exclusive versus an unlimited license from Beatstars?
Bro please. The new beatstars contract says teh same 2 lines (50% writers share to producer + 50% writers share to the artist) and the next line ONLY mention the producer --(( Producer shall own, control, and administer Fifty Percent (50%) of the so-called “Publisher’s Share of the underlying composition) . WHY they don't say 50% of publishing to the artist too. Does it mean that this 50% is the total publishing same as 100%??
great video mate tanks heaps for all the information
Thank you. Greetings from Poland
I dont understand why beatstars says that when an artist buys exclusive rights, i still hold 50% of the rights like tf? Whats the meaning of exclusive rights then
and I cant even change it
the 50% you own, as the producer, is not 50% of all earnings that are generated by the song. Its 50% of the writer's share in publishing royalties. Exclusive just means the rapper is the only one who can use the beat at the time of the agreement onwards. And yes, you can edit your BeatStars contract if you want to.
@@5hiftrae I actually needed to hear this, thank you bro
Keep droppin knowledge bro! 💪🏻💪🏻
understand your contracts
Does the artist who lease a beat can still monetize on like TH-cam and other platform? I'm curious
Depends on the producer and whats in the lease. But in most cases you should be fine if you bought a lease and didnt just rip it off whatever site.
Lease usually let you monetize but also let other artist monetize their song too and exclusive license is kinda like you know only for you and only you no other artist can have them
Quick things “lease can have limits like only 10000 views or play after that you gotto lease it again”
Check the split sheet
Sorry for my ignorance, i want to ask about beatstars: does the "lease" means only buying a basic license (mp3)?
@@IgneusBeats There are leases where you only get the mp3 and there are leases where you get the mp3 PLUS wav, etc. Like I said it all depends on the producer. Buying a lease from 1 producer doesn't mean you will get the same lease from another.
Can the Producer change their publisher's share from 100% to 50% on a non-exclusive license??
Yes.
Thank you. I needed this
My question is why no one ever speaks on the TIME period of the license. You own it for how long?
It says right in the agreements clearly as day. Just read the agreements and negotiate if you need to.
Keep schooling us to the game G 🙏🙏🙏
50/50 between beat maker and lyric writer is TOTALLY FAIR PER SONG... IS IT AS SIMPLE AS THAT???? Or does this shit get more SHADE BALL than that??? WHY CAN'T THIS BE EXPLAINED ??? SIMPLIFIED PLEASE....
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Thanks for explaining this!
I’ve come across a lot producers leasing and scamming artist taking 100% of publishing. And not allowing them to own their master
Misunderstanding on your part. Good question though, but don't assume.
1. Its not a scam if the contracts are visible before you buy. While I dont agree with the 100% publishing ownership, that can always be negotiated. Producers are just leaving their defaults in the contracts.
2. You don't own a master recording that embodies beat you leased. You would own your portion of the master, i.e. the recorded vocals. The producer owns their portion, i.e. the beat. That's fair. The rapper still gets the majority if not all of the master royalties.
@@DJPain1 so wait thank you for clearing that up.
But can you explain to me how royalties are broken down because I wanted to lease some beats and was like nvm when I saw that 100% publishing. I thought the publishing was the royalties how does the artist get the royalties if it says otherwise I’m so confused on that tbh
I mean the master recording royalties
I’m lost between publishing royalties and master recording royalties
Also thank you for a quick reply, for that I’m subbing, will watch more content and share your good videos
@@stayswervin554 there are many types of royalties. Each song has two copyrights: the master and the composition. Both copyrights generate different royalties. Its too complicated to explain, id encourage you to read and research otherwise you won't understand the music business well. With my beats, its a 50/50 publishing and writers split. The master royalties, you get 80% of. That's me though. Just reach out to producers and talk to them about the terms if you need to.
Needed that, appreciate it!
Peace brother. Thank you for the video and info. if I upload to Beat Stars, will I still need to copyright my music?
Does anybody on here know of any other videos that explain the Costomize Contract on Beatstars? Because I have no idea how this works? Thanks for your info Pain.
Is Beatstars protecting only a producer but no more for a artist who buy a beat or least?
Beatstars is on the producers side, not the artist hence the name BEAT STARS
I’m not a beat maker or artist but I don’t think it’s fair to the artist, who prolly put in way more time, and money to get the song made and promoted for a 50/50 split. Let’s say they do get that 30k commercial. But it costed them 10k to get it through videos and such. They would only make 5k from the commercial while the producer is leasing the beat to 100 other people and then get 15k from the artist hard work. What am I missing?
Publishing percentage goes to the producer of the track correct? Id like to know what the parentage means when i make an offer for an exclusive on beatstar.