Thankyou very much clive what a cracking film and the painstaking research you have done i used to always walk round clowbridge and just might have bumped into paddy once in the past a good few year's ago though . I'll never look at clowbridge quite the same again after seeing the plans just so much work went on there and now peace and quiet
I got a copy of the mine about 35 years ago from NCB at Lowton. It was a drift mine under Hambleton Hill it went as far as Mitchell house Reservoir.It is not shown on any OS maps only after it was closed. I tried to trace the tramroad to the top of Hodder street where there was a stathe . I think at the mine entrance the tramroad was double track and had a gravity incline? The tunnels were also double with intersecting passages at intervals. .At mitchell house end there was a fire ventilation shaft.
send me an email please John. rossendalecollieries@gmail.com. Moleside opened according to Dickenson 1875 and closed 1889. It didn't work under Mitchel house, it was the other older res belonging to Broadoak printworks, next to Hambleden Hall. At least 3 drifts, poss 4 as looks like 2 on main pithead then going towards Moleside end were two water levels that also acted as traveling roads ; Rundle drift and Dunston drift. There are a myriad of old shafts up there and many 'old workings' predating the Hargreaves Moleside colliery. It boarders with Brooks and Pickups, Cupola and Hambleden Hill colliery, I am very familiar with them and very interested in them. If you can get a look at Yates map of 1786 he also marks on a colliery up there, you may be more familiar with the location. We used to walk over from Goodshaw on a sunday afternoon as kids but spent more time obviously on our side of the hill. Yates also shows a pit on Goodshaw lane top...so a lot of early mining up there not properly recorded...Dickenson dosn't mark a tramway, but he dosn't always, wish he did as we don't know exact termination of Cupola tramway sstaith. please drop an email and we an get into it more Clive
Hey up Clive, you forgot to mention the name of James Joblings budgie😂........Brilliant stuff as always, always amazed how you manage to remember it all.
Well researched and well presented well done .Nice to see somebody interested in documenting Lancashires largely lost heritage. I hope that you may research the pits around Accrington one day if you ever get the time. I was interested in Moleside Colliery and the tramroad into Accrington.
I do't know an awful lot about Moleside. It worked the Arley and owned by George Hargreaves, didn't know much about the tramroad though, but it makes sense there being one
Another great video! Its so good that someone locally has made videos on the history of the mines in this area, so thanks for that, keep at it👍. Also, i`ve seen those big cast iron `torpedo` shaped things that i think you referred to as a gas retort, and ive always wondered what they were. There used to be one alongside the river at barley being used as a gatepost but has recently been broken and removed. Do you know what they were actually used for? or what their original purpose was?
Really interesting my great great grandfather came from near Liskeard Cornwall he was a tin miner on the promise of work in Burnley in 1872 I think. I read a book called the History of Burnley by Bennett. The Cornish and Devon men never knew they were brought in to break a strike but having burnt their bridges could not easily go home. Have you any more information outside of what is contained in this book to assist me tracing my family history. It looks like Burnley in 1872-73 was close to shut 31:04 down by industrial action. The Cotton Mills were running out of coal and some had to go on short time working. I believe my family would have lived somewhere near where Burnley cemetery is now on Rossendale Road. Was it haptin colliery that these outsiders came to work. My great great grandfather left mining after a few years and worked in a cotton mill marrying a Burnley girl. Any snippets of info would be of great interest to me.
As yet I'm not up on the strike of 1873...Think I have followed a few things in the newspaper but need to do more on it. There is an area on Rossendale rd that used to be called 'Little Cornwall' because of those that moved up. It's an old trick, encourage those from far away to move up without telling them there is a strike on. A miner by the name of George Heys, now deceaced, wrote a history of the Burnley Coalfield and he goes into some of the strikes. His book was never published and you have to sit in Burnley Library to read it. Hapton Valley is the closest but certainly not the only one. Im not sure if Barclay Hills had closed by that date but there was also, Burnt Hills, Smallshaw and Gannow all within walking distance. hapton Valley struggled to keep men at one time due to some of the working conditions.
There were colliery workers living in Cotton row, quite a few. There was a fatal accident at the pit so names are mentioned and some involved lived on cotton row
There's every possibility that these houses where for the manager etc now at tyldesley there's the colliers on sale lane it's now a pub but that was the lamp room with the manager's house called great boys colliery which is under the car park round the back so every chance you might be right
Thankyou very much clive what a cracking film and the painstaking research you have done i used to always walk round clowbridge and just might have bumped into paddy once in the past a good few year's ago though . I'll never look at clowbridge quite the same again after seeing the plans just so much work went on there and now peace and quiet
I got a copy of the mine about 35 years ago from NCB at Lowton. It was a drift mine under Hambleton Hill it went as far as Mitchell house Reservoir.It is not shown on any OS maps only after it was closed. I tried to trace the tramroad
to the top of Hodder street where there was a stathe
. I think at the mine entrance the tramroad was double track and had a gravity incline? The tunnels were also double with intersecting passages at intervals. .At mitchell house end there was a fire ventilation shaft.
send me an email please John. rossendalecollieries@gmail.com. Moleside opened according to Dickenson 1875 and closed 1889. It didn't work under Mitchel house, it was the other older res belonging to Broadoak printworks, next to Hambleden Hall.
At least 3 drifts, poss 4 as looks like 2 on main pithead then going towards Moleside end were two water levels that also acted as traveling roads ; Rundle drift and Dunston drift.
There are a myriad of old shafts up there and many 'old workings' predating the Hargreaves Moleside colliery. It boarders with Brooks and Pickups, Cupola and Hambleden Hill colliery, I am very familiar with them and very interested in them.
If you can get a look at Yates map of 1786 he also marks on a colliery up there, you may be more familiar with the location. We used to walk over from Goodshaw on a sunday afternoon as kids but spent more time obviously on our side of the hill. Yates also shows a pit on Goodshaw lane top...so a lot of early mining up there not properly recorded...Dickenson dosn't mark a tramway, but he dosn't always, wish he did as we don't know exact termination of Cupola tramway sstaith. please drop an email and we an get into it more
Clive
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top notch clive waiting for part 2.
Hey up Clive, you forgot to mention the name of James Joblings budgie😂........Brilliant stuff as always, always amazed how you manage to remember it all.
No Mick...his brother had a budgie... James would have kept a dog only his wife was allergic to cats so they couldn't have a budgie.
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Well researched and well presented well done .Nice to see somebody interested in documenting Lancashires largely lost heritage. I hope that you may research the pits around Accrington one day if you ever get the time. I was interested in Moleside Colliery and the tramroad into Accrington.
I do't know an awful lot about Moleside. It worked the Arley and owned by George Hargreaves, didn't know much about the tramroad though, but it makes sense there being one
Another great video! Its so good that someone locally has made videos on the history of the mines in this area, so thanks for that, keep at it👍. Also, i`ve seen those big cast iron `torpedo` shaped things that i think you referred to as a gas retort, and ive always wondered what they were. There used to be one alongside the river at barley being used as a gatepost but has recently been broken and removed. Do you know what they were actually used for? or what their original purpose was?
apparently that one came from the old Clowbridge mill, They were gas retorts , many mills made their own gas for lighting from the coal
Really interesting my great great grandfather came from near Liskeard Cornwall he was a tin miner on the promise of work in Burnley in 1872 I think. I read a book called the History of Burnley by Bennett. The Cornish and Devon men never knew they were brought in to break a strike but having burnt their bridges could not easily go home. Have you any more information outside of what is contained in this book to assist me tracing my family history. It looks like Burnley in 1872-73 was close to shut 31:04 down by industrial action. The Cotton Mills were running out of coal and some had to go on short time working. I believe my family would have lived somewhere near where Burnley cemetery is now on Rossendale Road. Was it haptin colliery that these outsiders came to work. My great great grandfather left mining after a few years and worked in a cotton mill marrying a Burnley girl. Any snippets of info would be of great interest to me.
As yet I'm not up on the strike of 1873...Think I have followed a few things in the newspaper but need to do more on it. There is an area on Rossendale rd that used to be called 'Little Cornwall' because of those that moved up. It's an old trick, encourage those from far away to move up without telling them there is a strike on.
A miner by the name of George Heys, now deceaced, wrote a history of the Burnley Coalfield and he goes into some of the strikes. His book was never published and you have to sit in Burnley Library to read it.
Hapton Valley is the closest but certainly not the only one. Im not sure if Barclay Hills had closed by that date but there was also, Burnt Hills, Smallshaw and Gannow all within walking distance. hapton Valley struggled to keep men at one time due to some of the working conditions.
Love to move up there if there was work for me and the mrs
Was Cotton Row built for the colliery manager and other colliery workers?
There were colliery workers living in Cotton row, quite a few. There was a fatal accident at the pit so names are mentioned and some involved lived on cotton row
There's every possibility that these houses where for the manager etc
now at tyldesley there's the colliers on sale lane it's now a pub but that was the lamp room with the manager's house called great boys colliery which is under the car park round the back so every chance you might be right