I dont condone suicide, but i do understand it. When i was 13 yrs old i rode horses at a close by stable. One night it was tipping down rain and the owner of the stable said he would drive me home. He wanted to check on his son who was at his pig battery on the way. We got there and i followed him in as i wanted to see the new piglets. I heard a loud moan and looked up. There was Derek, hanging over one of the pig stalls. His family knew he was very depressed and had concerns. They had removed all guns, knives and medications that could harm. They hadnt been able to remove all the ropes. It was a farm, ropes evertwhere. His dad and i tried lifting him up but couldnt. He was a big lad over 6 ft. We had to get a couple of pigs out of the pen first. He had fallen into it and the pigs were sniffing and snorting. Everything seemed to be in slowmotion. He had to go back home to call 999 and dropped me off home. After the funeral the mom and dad said how sorry they were that i had seen that and had helped trying to get him down. They felt really terrible. They lost their only son, it was them i felt terrible for. I held together till after the service, the whole thing was so surreal, but then it caught up with me. I started shaking, having nightmas and crying. The family put on a good show but they of course were never the same. I am 74 yrs old now but still get that shocky, shaky feeling, and have never forgotten it. Suicide is a terrible thing for the people left behind. Sometimes though things, for one reason or another are just too much. I am very glad that it is talked about much more now, openly. It was considered very shameful and hidden. It shouldnt be, only harm can come from not talking. R I P to all who left too soon.
Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. Like you've written, that stays with you forever. I was in my own dark place 6 years ago, but I was lucky to get help and find my way out and have lived my best life ever since. Best wishes to you
@matparks08 thank you for reply. I am sorry that you went through such a dark period 6 yrs ago It is very hard to cope and come through it unharmed. I have clinical depression, so I can understand.. I am glad I found this site, and I subbed. You are very good. Thank you. Happy New Year.
The numbers worldwide are very high for depression and suicide in farming and very rural communities. When things go wrong, the people involved are often very isolated and don't know where to turn for help and support. It must be horrible. People imagine the rural lifestyle is wonderful, with nature all around, but that is very frequently not the case. Bless the poor souls. I hope they are happy now.
Good point. I didn't think of the fact they are already quite isolated. Certainly, back then, they would never have discussed being 'depressed' for example. Thank goodness we're a bit more "open" today.... Thanks for watching
Such hard life's for little reward for the small farmers. People would have been expected to be tough and would have found it hard to talk about their troubles. Very sad 🙏
I lived in Rossendale for the first period of my life before migrating south. I worked at the post office during my time in Rossendale and often visited rural farms such as this one. There were a couple of very rural farms which also had sad stories to tell. I think it may have been the isolation which can distort reality and can lead to tragic consequences.
Yes, that's true ... We had such an odd barn here in my village Haimhausen, close to Munich, Germany ... But the people committing suicide in this barn were sometimes male and sometimes female. I believe stoutly that some places are "more inviting" to commit suicide ... I am sure there are for humans unfavorable energies & entities there.
This farm holds tragic stories. Well presented in a respectful manner. From my point of view, the only thing lacking was the dates of the deaths to put things into perspective. Thank you
Thank you. Yeah, unfortunately the dates were not attached to the newspaper articles I was forwarded by Tom. I'll try and find those for a separate update post at some point. Cheers 🙂
First time watching your video and enjoyed it very much! You have a wonderful way of presenting your topic! Clear, precise and with respect! Thank you!
I think it illustrates just how brutally hard times were and how people lived in poverty, debt and despair. That said, I hope somebody restores the property, including the barn and breathes new life into the place.
Back in those days, mental illness was considered an embarrassment and shame to the family. So no one would seek help for it. Mental illness was kept hidden from the public, neighbors, relatives, etc. The Roman Catholic Church was no help either, just more guilt for the family to bear, and a SIN for that person who committed suicide was going to HELL because they killed themselves. Even today people still don't understand mental illness, depression, and anxiety. It's still a stigma today. I have had depression and severe anxiety, luckily I got help because I knew I needed it. It was the best thing I ever did!!! I will not be ashamed of getting help. May God bless these poor individuals who took their lives. May they rest in peace. God understands more than we will ever know how that person was suffering.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. 6 years ago I was in a pit of despair, but was keeping the 'Stiff upper lip' I'd always been told to keep. I ended up trying to jump in the canal to end it all. I survived it and started talking and I've never looked back. I got through the stigma and try and help other on their journeys. I'm very lucky, and, importantly, I'm very happy with life now. That's my wish for everyone....I. glad I live in a different tine.
@@matparks08 Men especially have no support system when they need it. We women usually have female friends and relatives to talk to, lean on, and get help from. Men are raised to be ashamed of needing help, it being labeled a weakness. However, when women snap, we can be as violent as any man, either in harming ourselves or our families. Mental illness is very real, very devastating, and often both preventable and treatable.
Don't badmouth the Catholic Church please. We absolutely do not say that sui cide guarantees someone will go to hell. There are even stories of the Blessed Mother saving a soul from sui cide and someone having a perfect contrition upon realising what they were doing. If the mind is completely incapable of rationalising what we are doing then it can't possibly be a sin. So while in some cases it might be, only God knows our hearts, it's also not a guarantee of hell. If you were taught that you were taught it by someone that doesn't know the faith very well.
I work in Hebden and sometimes drive via Todmorden. It is a pretty damp, grey and depressing place, especially the road down from Burnley. But also a beacon of creativity and industry it has to be said.
I've just subscribed. My mother's family come from Littleborough. Your narrative is so unimaginably sad and tragic but sensitively told. It would be interesting to find out the history of this farm from the 1600s and its ownership, though that would be a difficult task. As other commenters have said, the hard life and isolation it brings are a background to this tragedy. If only they had had some help from outside. I used to live in an old cottage by a canal ( Stratford on Avon) and very sadly a similar thing happened to a young girl in the woods behind the cottage. A year or so later a friend was walking his dog in these same woods and happened to see a young girl. He then lost sight of her and wondered where she had gone to. May all these souls be at peace.
Certainly, RIP to them all and thank you for sharing your story with us and for subscribing. A lot have asked for dates of the happenings, etc...so please watch for an update sometime in the new year. Best wishes
Has anyone tested the area for Radon gas or lead contamination? The barn is simply a convenient location, where no one is going to see or interrupt, in my opinion. I think it is of higher probability that some toxic substance in the air, water, or soil is causing severe melancholia and depression than some supernatural force. It would be interesting to see what air, water, and soil samples turned up.
Probably high lead levels….hatters (hat makers) in the 17,18, century used lead in the manufacturing process, It’s said they used to lose the plot /go mad….hence mad as a hatter. Unreasonable thinking, depression,insanity ….lead poisoning.
What a tragic place, i think id be getting rid of the barn for sure. May the poor souls rest in peace. Respectfully done as always Matt and i wish you good health and happiness for the New Year
Hi there Mat. Oh my word😔. Such a very tragic story for this family. It was all so very traumatic too😥 I don't know anything about Spirits etc but I couldn't help but feel the family Passings was very traumatic. Whilst traumatic, to me it sounds like these poor family members have not moved/ on /settled 'the other side'. Is it not possible to get some sort of Historian / a medium/ Priest / Vicar to Bless the Passed family and hopefully they will be Passed over???. One would then hope the family would then eventually settle & Rest in Peace 🙏🥀✝️🕊💜 Once someone has 'blessed them ALL'?? As for the ground surrounding the farm??? Even more, possibly mysterious????! Would the local Library be able to help??? A very sad story Mat. Sadly it still very much resonates with everyone today, especially the Very hard working farming community. Thankyou for a very well narrated, very respectful video. Mat. I wish both you & your family well and to all your Subscribers.
Thanks for your message. Sometimes when I am in a location i feel the echoes of the past, not literally, but a sense of 'something' ...a vibe. This has happened at the likes of Angel Meadow, or the Ripper murder flat.... in all honesty, I sensed nothing from the barn yesterday, and I thought I would. So, maybe, and hopefully, they have found peace in the decades since. I hope that makes sense?? All the best and thanks again.
Thank you for this sensitive and respectful telling of history. We can never know the mind of another, but I think farming is frequently a demanding and isolating lifestyle. May these poor souls rest in peace.
For me - a German who LOVES England - this place looks so lovely ... no noise, so much peace. I'd love to live there ... (I've been to boarding school in Kent so this is just gorgeous in my eyes 👀 )
That's extremely sad, moorlands are known, since ancient times, for strange "happenings" and darkness.... you handled it with decorum and suitable gravity. My first video of yours and I am impressed.
Excellent and sensitive detailing of obviously very dark stories. Having recently been in some dark places appreciate the respectful way you touched on them. Thank you. Stay well, stay safe....Helen and Katarin Juska-Law with Stella and Terri with Robyn.
Thank you so much. I hope you're completely out of the dark place....I'm lucky, I've been out of mine for 6 years now. All the best, and thanks for watching
Well presented and told with true expression. Suicide is sadly common place in the farming industry and in rural areas generally. I lived in Southern Ireland for twenty years and the most common cause of deaths in males under 40 was suicide. Mostly farmers or living in remote areas and generally put down to loneliness and the relentless hours that were needed to keep the farms running. It's a huge issue in a lot of countries but Britain and Ireland seem to suffer the worst.
Very sad and tragic story, definitely is and was a place that was the dark side of the moor for the people experiencing mental health issues. Matt I wish you and your friends and everyone of your viewers, a happy and fingers crossed stress free 2025.
@catherineloftus1376 Definitely. To reach the point where you can see no future....tragic! We understand things much better today....though a long long way to go. All the best to you too, and thanks for your continued support of the channel. Lots to come in 2025
Instantly subbed! What a sad but very interesting place, the past handled with great respect and those dear souls that were there obviously had lives and worked at the farm but something took them to that barn unfortunately. Would love more information if you come up with it and dates would be great. Keep up the great work. RIP to these dear people.
Terribly sad chain of stories in one building. I once worked in Estate Agency in Birmingham and we took on a terraced home that had seen a man and woman and their three young children in a state of family disagreement. The woman went out shopping and when she came back home all the children and her husband were dead. It would seem the husband did it as far as my understanding goes. I toured the home several times as part of my preparation for selling and expected it may have had an eerie atmosphere but it didn't and had a nice atmosphere. It would make a good welcoming home for a happy family. What happened there wasn't the homes fault. I hope that can make sense. RIP all who passed away in that home. Life can seem precarious and an injury or economic change or relationship break up can have devastating consequences which sadly can have a knock on effect. The loneliest place can be the injured mind and spirit.
Thanks for the message and sharing your story. Yes, it absolutely made sense. Funnily enough, I felt nothing within the barn either. I hope one day it is restored and given a new chance. Thanks for watching
I was born in Littleborough in 1968 and the ‘haunted’ stories there were around Clegg Hall and Stubley Hall. I’d love to know if any of your viewers know or are descendants of people mentioned and how that history is mentioned in their families.
Thanks for commenting 😊. I'd have loved to have explored Clegg Hall when it was abandoned years ago.. the boggart story from there always fascinated me. Will see if you get a response from viewers to your question, but my personal experience with my family was that you didn't talk about it. My grandma passed 20 years ago and we ended up with her family photos from decades back. On one photo was my grandma's 'sister'. She committed suicide in Midgley back in the 40s or 50s. We never knew she existed before that photo as she was never spoken of again after that time....crazy 😔
You don’t get much for the £695,000 asking price. Whoever buys the 10 acres is going to be stuck with the barn, as it’s Grade II listed and dates from the mid 1600s! Perhaps Historic England might allow you to renovate the barn and turn it into a home, but it’d cost hundreds of thousands to do that.
I was a paramedic for 24 years and attended a number of suicides. Sometimes you just have to respect someone’s decision. One man ran a hose from his truck’s exhaust pipe to a little trailer. There was a sign saying “Do Not Enter - Carbon Monoxide.” He had his ID taped to the paper, and gave a list of people to contact. He also gave his reasons for his actions ( he had a painful illness). He endangered no one. Another man did something similar. His wife of many years had died and he didn’t want to do Christmas without her. Again, he endangered no one. A different situation existed when one man drove under a bus, killing himself and endangering the lives of the 8 people on the bus. Others leave hate filled messages before they killed themselves in the messiest way possible. I guess what I am saying is that suicide has many reasons. We are better at talking about it than we used to be. If someone reaches out to you, listen and get them the help they need. Sorry for the giant rant. This post obviously triggered something in me. I will go and be with friends.
Thanks for your message, and, yes, I totally understand what you're saying. Usually that person fully believes the world will be better off without them in it...I've been there, but thankfully still here and got my life back. I'm very lucky.
What about the year of each death ? You mention one just after WW2 , could that be possibly PDSD ?, very interesting as always, what sort of vibes did you feel in the barn ?
I can remember my father and mother going to see a farm in the north Yorkshire moors ... Father met one of the near neighbours.. Last two occupants had taken their own lives .. although he was offered the tenancy. He turned it down.. mother was a little bit out out.. until he explained the reason.. He didn't want to become a victim of the barn.. Their was then a pause and sigh. Gee's that's fair enough well keep looking"" It ticked all the boxes an was a nice place. Fantastic area the scenery stunning. What will be wil be.
I used to do a bit of househunting in Hebden Bridge, followed by a walk along the canal to Todmorden (translated into German as death by murder). The name of this town and the town itself freaked me out and I stopped going there. I know properties have become expensive, but no pricetag in the world would make me move there. I believe UFOs are common too? May all the souls rest in peace. God Bless you and yours.
I live in Todmorden. As a kid I never liked it, but now I love it. It's people, it's history, it's landscapes...it's my home 🙂. However...I certainly respect your opinion too 🙂. It is indeed 🛸 hotspot 🙂. Happy new year, and thanks for watching
I remember my Grandad taking me, my sister and two cousins for a walk up to Rodwell End must have been the late seventies/early eighties and it was derelict then. Like a ghost town.
I have a question. Im from usa. Is it always rainy or dreary weather there? Or does the sunshine? Im wondering if it stays the way it looks at the time of your filming for a majority of the time. The reason i ask this is because where i live has occassional rainy days and alot of sunshine on others. The rainy days make me depressed and not want to do anything but sleep or cry. If i had no sunshine, i know it would effect my mental health. Could this be the situation there?
Thanks for watching and for the comment. We don't get 'seasons' anymore here. A lot of the time its grey and rainy but each year it's different. For example, 2020 when lockdown happened, from March to May we had sunshine every single day. The following year, over summer, we had 2 warm sunny weeks in August and wind and rain fir the rest of Summer. A lot of people also get Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) as they go to work in the dark and come home in the dark over the winter months. Weather must certainly affect farming....so you may have a point.
Well done a sensitive subject but you did it well. My own opinion of this barn is that sometime in the past, perhaps when it was first constructed or even before it was built something dreadful happened and a dark spirit or presence remains there.
That's so sad. A lot of the farming community committed suicide Many Years ago, my friends great granddad did He had a dairy farm that was failing. Sadly, he shot his dog and then shot himself in the barn😢
Wow! Great video and congratulations on the views 🎉. This was an interesting watch/location. Hope you had a great Christmas and all the best for 2025 ❤🎉
Why suicide is stigmatized is a real shame. THose who could not recover from the war are to be mourned. To quote Arthur Miller, "Attention must be paid." Sad adventures here.
Nothing mysterious....purely because I'd filmed it a couple of times as a 'ruin' and didn't think there was anything else to cover with it....but we then uncovered the stories presented here.
miles Weatherill was born in tod modern on being forbidden to see his girlfriend he murdered a vicar's maid and the vicar himself and was hanged in Manchester in 1846.
There was animosity and combativeness running all through the valley, think it must have been simmering since the war of the roses, so that’s Littleborough Todmorden and Hebden Bridge I don’t think it’s ongoing now..but I could be wrong..Happy New Year
These thngs do not happen just in England. I visited my relaives in North Dakota one year. My Great Aunt lived on a farm that has been in the family . They ha come from Norway and homesteaded in the late 1800;s. While was tere visiting the Sheriff’s Deputy stopped by to visitand enjoy my Aunt’s home made pie and coffee. he told a few tales about suicides on farms in the area. it seems there was a pattern, someone would “go crazy” and kill everyone on the farm then kill themselves.. the eputy said it was probably due to the isolation and the weather The winds across the plains seem to blow almost conastantly and it drives poeple insane. it used to be a very hard life before tractors and modern harvesting equipment and government price supports for crops. For example farmers would agree not to grow a certain crop so as not to flood the market and bring down the price of corn or wheat or pork etc They were paid not to grow certain crops. . There was a joke that went around about a cousin who got rich not farming. Even though times were good, and farming was profitable, murder/suicides kept happening. As recently as the 1980’s there was a stigma about mental illness and depression. i recall my father and his brother discussing the presidental election and one candidate who had admitted that he had sought treatment for depression They said they could never vote for him because he was a “ crazy and a nut case” people just didn’t talk about being depressed in those days. Thankfully nowdays it is considered a sign of good judgement and healthy to seek treatment if one is feeling depressed . and/or anxious and worried. There are many suicide prevention programs and Crisis lines to call 24/7. There is an ad running on you tube today about an organiztion that provides service dogs to Veterans suffering from PTSD along .with Veterans testimony on how much having an emotional support Dog has changed their lives for the better. from 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🌹
Thanks for sharing your story. Yes. I'm certainly pleased the 'dark da6s' of not talking about mental health are changing....slowly, but it's happening. Thanks for watching
It'll make a stunning house all restored not sure about all the bad energy that's still there? , been near here when I lived in bury, bit bleak up there.
I thinknits been uo for sale most of the year. Normally old properties are snapped up for renovation when they come available round here....but seemingly not with this one. Thanks for watching
Visitors calling by at odd times. Especially some bright and breezy ones. A meet up and chat with locals at the pub. Going to church on Sunday and meeting friends there. And if the guys could open up and talk about some feelings at least? Of ctourse reticence about talking too freely about private business can put dampners on talking.
I guess I'm quite open these days about my own personal experiences, but I always hope it's a door to get others talking and to see there is a light at the end of the storm
My boyfriend who came from Hebden was scared of Tod but maybe that was a bit to do with going to Calder High! He said it was creepy and meant Death and Murder! They were kind on the whole with suicide - otherwise the state could take all their estate=- The Thornber brothers used to reign supreme in Mytholmroyd! Happy New Year x
I grew up in Hebden and went to Calder High too....and as a kid was never a Tod fan. I've lived in Tod for 20 years next year, and I love it here now. It's a different place to back then 😊
I dont condone suicide, but i do understand it. When i was 13 yrs old i rode horses at a close by stable. One night it was tipping down rain and the owner of the stable said he would drive me home. He wanted to check on his son who was at his pig battery on the way. We got there and i followed him in as i wanted to see the new piglets. I heard a loud moan and looked up. There was Derek, hanging over one of the pig stalls. His family knew he was very depressed and had concerns. They had removed all guns, knives and medications that could harm. They hadnt been able to remove all the ropes. It was a farm, ropes evertwhere. His dad and i tried lifting him up but couldnt. He was a big lad over 6 ft. We had to get a couple of pigs out of the pen first. He had fallen into it and the pigs were sniffing and snorting. Everything seemed to be in slowmotion. He had to go back home to call 999 and dropped me off home. After the funeral the mom and dad said how sorry they were that i had seen that and had helped trying to get him down. They felt really terrible. They lost their only son, it was them i felt terrible for. I held together till after the service, the whole thing was so surreal, but then it caught up with me. I started shaking, having nightmas and crying. The family put on a good show but they of course were never the same. I am 74 yrs old now but still get that shocky, shaky feeling, and have never forgotten it. Suicide is a terrible thing for the people left behind. Sometimes though things, for one reason or another are just too much. I am very glad that it is talked about much more now, openly. It was considered very shameful and hidden. It shouldnt be, only harm can come from not talking. R I P to all who left too soon.
Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. Like you've written, that stays with you forever. I was in my own dark place 6 years ago, but I was lucky to get help and find my way out and have lived my best life ever since. Best wishes to you
@matparks08 thank you for reply. I am sorry that you went through such a dark period 6 yrs ago
It is very hard to cope and come through it unharmed. I have clinical depression, so I can understand.. I am glad I found this site, and I subbed. You are very good. Thank you. Happy New Year.
Actually, it did not used to be reported unless it was unavoidable, because there would be a spike.
you spoke of those deaths with a lot of respect. and their stories deserve to be told no matter how they died. thank you
Thanks so much, and thanks for watching
The numbers worldwide are very high for depression and suicide in farming and very rural communities. When things go wrong, the people involved are often very isolated and don't know where to turn for help and support. It must be horrible. People imagine the rural lifestyle is wonderful, with nature all around, but that is very frequently not the case. Bless the poor souls. I hope they are happy now.
Good point. I didn't think of the fact they are already quite isolated. Certainly, back then, they would never have discussed being 'depressed' for example. Thank goodness we're a bit more "open" today....
Thanks for watching
Still better than modern urban britain
Such hard life's for little reward for the small farmers. People would have been expected to be tough and would have found it hard to talk about their troubles.
Very sad 🙏
So true. I live very rurally and we are so isolated. Nobody helps with anything nor seems to care about us. There really isn't anywhere much to turn.
Well done Sir, you have brought to us a honest and empathetic account of the lives of some folk who were pushed beyond the point of what is bearable!
@michaelodonoghue9385 thank you for the comment, that's much appreciated 🙂
I lived in Rossendale for the first period of my life before migrating south. I worked at the post office during my time in Rossendale and often visited rural farms such as this one. There were a couple of very rural farms which also had sad stories to tell. I think it may have been the isolation which can distort reality and can lead to tragic consequences.
Yeah. I agree with you on the isolation part. It must be very tough farming, and especially when your livelihood depends on it. Thanks for watching
Interesting but sad video. You are always very respectful and I think you told the story in the very best way possible. It can't have been easy.
Thanks for that. Yeah, it's always a concern telling such dark stories, especially if anyone finds the topic too sensitive. Much appreciated
And they were all Men.
Thank you for covering this so sensitively.
@garethifan1034 very kind, thanks for watching
Yes, that's true ...
We had such an odd barn here in my village Haimhausen, close to Munich, Germany ...
But the people committing suicide in this barn were sometimes male and sometimes female.
I believe stoutly that some places are "more inviting" to commit suicide ... I am sure there are for humans unfavorable energies & entities there.
That little forest you walk through just before reaching the field, my dogs always go loopy there. They act like they can see something.
It's a fairly 'sleepy hollow' esque kind of woodland, isn't it. All twisted and gnarled trees. It wouldn't surprise me 🤔
Very creepy
What a thoughtful and sensitive presentation of a difficult subject. Thank you for sharing these painful accounts with us.
That's very kind, and thanks for watching
This farm holds tragic stories. Well presented in a respectful manner. From my point of view, the only thing lacking was the dates of the deaths to put things into perspective. Thank you
Thank you. Yeah, unfortunately the dates were not attached to the newspaper articles I was forwarded by Tom. I'll try and find those for a separate update post at some point. Cheers 🙂
First time watching your video and enjoyed it very much! You have a wonderful way of presenting your topic! Clear, precise and with respect! Thank you!
That's very kind. 🙂. Thank you so much
I think it illustrates just how brutally hard times were and how people lived in poverty, debt and despair. That said, I hope somebody restores the property, including the barn and breathes new life into the place.
I hope it does too, it deserves a fresh start. Thanks for watching
Back in those days, mental illness was considered an embarrassment and shame to the family. So no one would seek help for it. Mental illness was kept hidden from the public, neighbors, relatives, etc. The Roman Catholic Church was no help either, just more guilt for the family to bear, and a SIN for that person who committed suicide was going to HELL because they killed themselves.
Even today people still don't understand mental illness, depression, and anxiety. It's still a stigma today. I have had depression and severe anxiety, luckily I got help because I knew I needed it. It was the best thing I ever did!!! I will not be ashamed of getting help.
May God bless these poor individuals who took their lives. May they rest in peace.
God understands more than we will ever know how that person was suffering.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. 6 years ago I was in a pit of despair, but was keeping the 'Stiff upper lip' I'd always been told to keep. I ended up trying to jump in the canal to end it all. I survived it and started talking and I've never looked back. I got through the stigma and try and help other on their journeys. I'm very lucky, and, importantly, I'm very happy with life now. That's my wish for everyone....I. glad I live in a different tine.
@@matparks08 Men especially have no support system when they need it. We women usually have female friends and relatives to talk to, lean on, and get help from. Men are raised to be ashamed of needing help, it being labeled a weakness.
However, when women snap, we can be as violent as any man, either in harming ourselves or our families. Mental illness is very real, very devastating, and often both preventable and treatable.
Don't badmouth the Catholic Church please. We absolutely do not say that sui cide guarantees someone will go to hell. There are even stories of the Blessed Mother saving a soul from sui cide and someone having a perfect contrition upon realising what they were doing. If the mind is completely incapable of rationalising what we are doing then it can't possibly be a sin. So while in some cases it might be, only God knows our hearts, it's also not a guarantee of hell. If you were taught that you were taught it by someone that doesn't know the faith very well.
I work in Hebden and sometimes drive via Todmorden. It is a pretty damp, grey and depressing place, especially the road down from Burnley. But also a beacon of creativity and industry it has to be said.
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I've just subscribed. My mother's family come from Littleborough.
Your narrative is so unimaginably sad and tragic but sensitively told.
It would be interesting to find out the history of this farm from the 1600s and its ownership, though that would be a difficult task.
As other commenters have said, the hard life and isolation it brings are a background to this tragedy. If only they had had some help from outside.
I used to live in an old cottage by a canal ( Stratford on Avon) and very sadly a similar thing happened to a young girl in the woods behind the cottage. A year or so later a friend was walking his dog in these same woods and happened to see a young girl. He then lost sight of her and wondered where she had gone to.
May all these souls be at peace.
Certainly, RIP to them all and thank you for sharing your story with us and for subscribing. A lot have asked for dates of the happenings, etc...so please watch for an update sometime in the new year. Best wishes
Has anyone tested the area for Radon gas or lead contamination? The barn is simply a convenient location, where no one is going to see or interrupt, in my opinion. I think it is of higher probability that some toxic substance in the air, water, or soil is causing severe melancholia and depression than some supernatural force. It would be interesting to see what air, water, and soil samples turned up.
Two Wells on site, wonder what the water is like
Probably high lead levels….hatters (hat makers) in the 17,18, century used lead in the manufacturing process,
It’s said they used to lose the plot /go mad….hence mad as a hatter.
Unreasonable thinking, depression,insanity ….lead poisoning.
I never knew where that term came from, thanks for that.
Good point because of the wells
I think both is possible - but I definitely would first like to see science given a shot ...
What a tragic place, i think id be getting rid of the barn for sure. May the poor souls rest in peace.
Respectfully done as always Matt and i wish you good health and happiness for the New Year
Thank you. Happy new year to you too and all the best for 2025. 😊
There are people who can clear a space of bad energy, ghosts etc
Your disclaimers and explanations are beautiful. 😊
@kskssxoxskskss2189 that's very kind, thank you
Hi there Mat.
Oh my word😔. Such a very tragic story for this family. It was all so very traumatic too😥
I don't know anything about Spirits etc but I couldn't help but feel the family Passings was very traumatic. Whilst traumatic, to me it sounds like these poor family members have not moved/ on /settled 'the other side'.
Is it not possible to get some sort of Historian / a medium/ Priest / Vicar to Bless the Passed family and hopefully they will be Passed over???. One would then hope the family would then eventually settle & Rest in Peace 🙏🥀✝️🕊💜
Once someone has 'blessed them ALL'??
As for the ground surrounding the farm???
Even more, possibly mysterious????!
Would the local Library be able to help???
A very sad story Mat. Sadly it still very much resonates with everyone today, especially the Very hard working farming community.
Thankyou for a very well narrated, very respectful video. Mat.
I wish both you & your family well and to all your Subscribers.
Thanks for your message. Sometimes when I am in a location i feel the echoes of the past, not literally, but a sense of 'something' ...a vibe. This has happened at the likes of Angel Meadow, or the Ripper murder flat.... in all honesty, I sensed nothing from the barn yesterday, and I thought I would. So, maybe, and hopefully, they have found peace in the decades since. I hope that makes sense?? All the best and thanks again.
Thank you for this sensitive and respectful telling of history.
We can never know the mind of another, but I think farming is frequently a demanding and isolating lifestyle.
May these poor souls rest in peace.
Thank you for watching and your comment. Best wishes
Great to meet you today at Tod station. Keep up the good work and happy new year to you and your mates. Regards. Dave and Sandra.
Good to meet you too. 🙂 Happy New Year, and thanks for your support.
Shared and spoken with respect and compassion. Sad place I hope it becomes a family home once again . Interesting video
For me - a German who LOVES England - this place looks so lovely ... no noise, so much peace. I'd love to live there ...
(I've been to boarding school in Kent so this is just gorgeous in my eyes 👀 )
Yes, it'd be good to see it get a fresh start for this century. Thanks for watching
That's extremely sad, moorlands are known, since ancient times, for strange "happenings" and darkness.... you handled it with decorum and suitable gravity.
My first video of yours and I am impressed.
Thanks for very, that's much appreciated.
My daughter bought a house in Todmorden last year .She loves living there . The hills . Woods. Flood scares!!!. Very friendly people .
The people are great in Todmorden, and the hills and landscapes are stunning. Admittedly, the rain is a problem ...often! All the best 🙂
glad she is bringing some sunshine to the area
tod cricket ground is one of the most scenic grounds in the lancs league
What sort of dark energy lures people to the barn to end their lives? Tragic.
Yeah, it's a strange one. 🤔
i remember ghost town many years ago, people were actualy afraid of going up there lol... what an eerie story and a sad one . good video
Thanks Elaine. I feel there's more to unravel in Ghost Town ....we shall see. Happy New Year.
Excellent and sensitive detailing of obviously very dark stories. Having recently been in some dark places appreciate the respectful way you touched on them. Thank you. Stay well, stay safe....Helen and Katarin Juska-Law with Stella and Terri with Robyn.
Thank you so much. I hope you're completely out of the dark place....I'm lucky, I've been out of mine for 6 years now. All the best, and thanks for watching
Great at presenting and a nice warm “goodbye” at the end
Thanks so much 🙂
Well presented and told with true expression.
Suicide is sadly common place in the farming industry and in rural areas generally. I lived in Southern Ireland for twenty years and the most common cause of deaths in males under 40 was suicide. Mostly farmers or living in remote areas and generally put down to loneliness and the relentless hours that were needed to keep the farms running.
It's a huge issue in a lot of countries but Britain and Ireland seem to suffer the worst.
Thanks so much. Yeah, suicide in men is a huge issue, but slowly, with groups like Andysmanclub, the stigma is being broken down. All the best.
Very sad and tragic story, definitely is and was a place that was the dark side of the moor for the people experiencing mental health issues. Matt I wish you and your friends and everyone of your viewers, a happy and fingers crossed stress free 2025.
@catherineloftus1376 Definitely. To reach the point where you can see no future....tragic! We understand things much better today....though a long long way to go.
All the best to you too, and thanks for your continued support of the channel. Lots to come in 2025
Instantly subbed!
What a sad but very interesting place, the past handled with great respect and those dear souls that were there obviously had lives and worked at the farm but something took them to that barn unfortunately. Would love more information if you come up with it and dates would be great. Keep up the great work. RIP to these dear people.
Thanks for the sub and the comment. Much appreciated. I shall certainly follow up with the dates in the new year. Best wishes
Interesting story matt ..visited this farm a few times ..always wanted some history about it ..nice onev!
Cheers Dave. Best wishes for 2025
Terribly sad chain of stories in one building. I once worked in Estate Agency in Birmingham and we took on a terraced home that had seen a man and woman and their three young children in a state of family disagreement. The woman went out shopping and when she came back home all the children and her husband were dead. It would seem the husband did it as far as my understanding goes. I toured the home several times as part of my preparation for selling and expected it may have had an eerie atmosphere but it didn't and had a nice atmosphere. It would make a good welcoming home for a happy family. What happened there wasn't the homes fault. I hope that can make sense. RIP all who passed away in that home. Life can seem precarious and an injury or economic change or relationship break up can have devastating consequences which sadly can have a knock on effect. The loneliest place can be the injured mind and spirit.
Thanks for the message and sharing your story. Yes, it absolutely made sense. Funnily enough, I felt nothing within the barn either. I hope one day it is restored and given a new chance. Thanks for watching
I was born in Littleborough in 1968 and the ‘haunted’ stories there were around Clegg Hall and Stubley Hall. I’d love to know if any of your viewers know or are descendants of people mentioned and how that history is mentioned in their families.
Thanks for commenting 😊. I'd have loved to have explored Clegg Hall when it was abandoned years ago.. the boggart story from there always fascinated me.
Will see if you get a response from viewers to your question, but my personal experience with my family was that you didn't talk about it. My grandma passed 20 years ago and we ended up with her family photos from decades back. On one photo was my grandma's 'sister'. She committed suicide in Midgley back in the 40s or 50s. We never knew she existed before that photo as she was never spoken of again after that time....crazy 😔
Was supposed to be a tunnel linking them together
@@dazbrowne4984 yes I’d heard that - as children that was a BIG deal!
@TenaciousP we looked a few times whilst creeping about clegg hall never found the secret passage, always reminded me of dark towers
Interesting 🤔
You don’t get much for the £695,000 asking price. Whoever buys the 10 acres is going to be stuck with the barn, as it’s Grade II listed and dates from the mid 1600s! Perhaps Historic England might allow you to renovate the barn and turn it into a home, but it’d cost hundreds of thousands to do that.
That's quite a cost for what's there.😬
I was a paramedic for 24 years and attended a number of suicides. Sometimes you just have to respect someone’s decision.
One man ran a hose from his truck’s exhaust pipe to a little trailer. There was a sign saying “Do Not Enter - Carbon Monoxide.” He had his ID taped to the paper, and gave a list of people to contact. He also gave his reasons for his actions ( he had a painful illness). He endangered no one.
Another man did something similar. His wife of many years had died and he didn’t want to do Christmas without her. Again, he endangered no one.
A different situation existed when one man drove under a bus, killing himself and endangering the lives of the 8 people on the bus.
Others leave hate filled messages before they killed themselves in the messiest way possible.
I guess what I am saying is that suicide has many reasons. We are better at talking about it than we used to be. If someone reaches out to you, listen and get them the help they need.
Sorry for the giant rant. This post obviously triggered something in me. I will go and be with friends.
Thanks for your message, and, yes, I totally understand what you're saying. Usually that person fully believes the world will be better off without them in it...I've been there, but thankfully still here and got my life back. I'm very lucky.
@@matparks08 I'm glad you got your life back. It takes courage and love. Best wishes to you.
What about the year of each death ? You mention one just after WW2 , could that be possibly PDSD ?, very interesting as always, what sort of vibes did you feel in the barn ?
I don't have the dates on the articles Tom sent me unfortunately. I certainly think one of them is down to the war. 🫤
I can remember my father and mother going to see a farm in the north Yorkshire moors ...
Father met one of the near neighbours..
Last two occupants had taken their own lives .. although he was offered the tenancy. He turned it down.. mother was a little bit out out.. until he explained the reason.. He didn't want to become a victim of the barn..
Their was then a pause and sigh.
Gee's that's fair enough well keep looking""
It ticked all the boxes an was a nice place. Fantastic area the scenery stunning.
What will be wil be.
Like I mention in the video, a lot of places have seen tragedy. Thanks for watching.
I used to do a bit of househunting in Hebden Bridge, followed by a walk along the canal to Todmorden (translated into German as death by murder). The name of this town and the town itself freaked me out and I stopped going there. I know properties have become expensive, but no pricetag in the world would make me move there. I believe UFOs are common too? May all the souls rest in peace. God Bless you and yours.
I live in Todmorden. As a kid I never liked it, but now I love it. It's people, it's history, it's landscapes...it's my home 🙂. However...I certainly respect your opinion too 🙂. It is indeed 🛸 hotspot 🙂. Happy new year, and thanks for watching
Such a true opening statement...that strange period between Xmas and New Year when we don't know what day it is ! So true...
The confusion will hopefully end soon 😅
Done with so much respect x
Thank you so much 🙂
I remember my Grandad taking me, my sister and two cousins for a walk up to Rodwell End must have been the late seventies/early eighties and it was derelict then. Like a ghost town.
Would have loved to have seen it back then..... 😊
I think you’ve made it Matt, 16,000 views in the first 24 hours. Happy new year 🎉🎉🎉
I know ..doubled since you wrote this, and nearly 800 more subscribers. A crazy and amazing end to 2024 😅. Happy new year
Such a heart breaking place RIP all.
Thanks for watching
Thank you so much for sharing very sad. Just subscribed have you done Dobroyed castle?
Thanks for subscribing. Yes, I did Dobroyd a couple of years ago. Hopefully you'll find it if you search through the channel. All the best
in the late 70's we used to freak each other out playing in those haunted ruins.
thank you for putting the memories of these poor people to rest.
Sounds like great fun 😁
I'd never seen their story told before. I do wonder if any of them are buried in the nearby Cross Stone cemetery? Thanks for watching
Well presented on a sad case. Six suicides. That is a high number.
Thanks for watching.
I have a question. Im from usa. Is it always rainy or dreary weather there? Or does the sunshine? Im wondering if it stays the way it looks at the time of your filming for a majority of the time. The reason i ask this is because where i live has occassional rainy days and alot of sunshine on others. The rainy days make me depressed and not want to do anything but sleep or cry. If i had no sunshine, i know it would effect my mental health. Could this be the situation there?
It always rains here...we do get a short summer...but it always rains...the UK is classified as rainforest area so it's to be expected 😊
Yes it's all ways raining and damp that's why the cotton Mills were built in Lancashire. Just had a week of foggy weather very depressing
Thanks for watching and for the comment. We don't get 'seasons' anymore here. A lot of the time its grey and rainy but each year it's different. For example, 2020 when lockdown happened, from March to May we had sunshine every single day. The following year, over summer, we had 2 warm sunny weeks in August and wind and rain fir the rest of Summer. A lot of people also get Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) as they go to work in the dark and come home in the dark over the winter months.
Weather must certainly affect farming....so you may have a point.
Rainforest?? Be nice if we did have the forest....but we certainly get the rain.
I visited this area for about 4 days last year, it rained every day. Although you do get sunny periods, maybe last a afternoon or a morning.
Well done a sensitive subject but you did it well. My own opinion of this barn is that sometime in the past, perhaps when it was first constructed or even before it was built something dreadful happened and a dark spirit or presence remains there.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, you could be right 🤔
In Scotland if you can see the mountains, it’s going to rain, if you can’t see them, it’s already raining, 10 months of rain each year😊
Pretty much the same as Yorkshire then 😉
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That's so sad. A lot of the farming community committed suicide Many
Years ago, my friends great granddad did He had a dairy farm that was failing. Sadly, he shot his dog and then shot himself in the barn😢
It's incredibly sad, to reach the point of no hope and nowhere to turn. Sorry to read your personal story. Best wishes
@matparks08 😥🖤
That home and farm are hauntingly beautiful. This is a great video I thoroughly enjoyed it #Aztec73
Thank you so much for watching. All the best 🙂.
@matparks08 You're welcome, Have a happy new year 🙂
My friend lives at Tod and I have never heard of here .Interesting but sad story .
No, it's not a well known one, and we only found the stories due to searching for something else. Thanks for watching
Thank you for telling it so well and respectfully 😊.
Thats one awful place Matt, I wonder what it is that makes it such a lure for folk?
I don't have the answer unfortunately, but such tragedy and sadness within 4 walls. 😔 Thanks for watching
Wow! Great video and congratulations on the views 🎉. This was an interesting watch/location. Hope you had a great Christmas and all the best for 2025 ❤🎉
Yeah....I don't know what's going on 😅 800 new subscribers in 48 hours...what an amazing way to end the year. Thanks and all the best
That's a very stout, respectable set of buildings for a hill farm. Someone had high hopes a couple of hundred years ago.
Indeed 🙂. Thanks for watching
Watching on new years eve,the weather is horrible,i know part of the area,i always find it a bit bleak.
Enjoy, and happy new year
Hope you had a lovely Christmas my friend
Thank you, yes, it's been a good one 😊. Hope you have too
All those stories are tragic but as an ignorant American, you couldn't give me that farm.
I'm not sure this video will help the sale really, unless the buyer is quite macabre 🤔
@@matparks08 So true, but there's always that one that loves this kind of stuff.
you must be a Democrat ...
Its so true Matty. The time between Christmas and New years nobidy knows what day is! I for one certainly have been at a loss for a week now. Lol 😅
Indeed.....what day is it today??? 🤨
Why suicide is stigmatized is a real shame. THose who could not recover from the war are to be mourned.
To quote Arthur Miller, "Attention must be paid." Sad adventures here.
It's slowly getting better and the stigma being broken down....but a long long way to go.
Why had you decided not to go back before you did the video?
Nothing mysterious....purely because I'd filmed it a couple of times as a 'ruin' and didn't think there was anything else to cover with it....but we then uncovered the stories presented here.
@@matparks08 awe thank you
Thank you……
Thanks for watching
Really interesting. I’ve subscribed 😀
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 😊
It’s interesting to find out social history.
Thanks 😊
When nobody knows what day it is. How true.
😅
what a restoration project this would be
An expensive one...but definitely 🙂
miles Weatherill was born in tod modern on being forbidden to see his girlfriend he murdered a vicar's maid and the vicar himself and was hanged in Manchester in 1846.
He was indeed. I covered the story a long time back....I think I need to revisit it. Cheers
Well done video!
Thanks
So sad very strange all in the barn
It certainly is 🤔
£695,000 but only 10 Acres of Land. It does have two wells though
The land itself is pretty much running water. The fields are a quagmire. It's a big project for someone.
The kids in Mytholmroyd used to hang around the bus stop waiting for the Tod kids caus there was a word that they were coming over - Good old days
I think some kids did the same for the kids coming from Halifax.... what kids got up to before mobile phones 😉
There was animosity and combativeness running all through the valley, think it must have been simmering since the war of the roses, so that’s Littleborough Todmorden and Hebden Bridge I don’t think it’s ongoing now..but I could be wrong..Happy New Year
@@W.J.Blythe no, I think it's different these days. Thank you. All the best
We at peace now!
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These thngs do not happen just in England. I visited my relaives in North Dakota one year. My Great Aunt lived on a farm that has been in the family . They ha come from Norway and homesteaded in the late 1800;s. While was tere visiting the Sheriff’s Deputy stopped by to visitand enjoy my Aunt’s home made pie and coffee. he told a few tales about suicides on farms in the area. it seems there was a pattern, someone would “go crazy” and kill everyone on the farm then kill themselves.. the eputy said it was probably due to the isolation and the weather The winds across the plains seem to blow almost conastantly and it drives poeple insane. it used to be a very hard life before tractors and modern harvesting equipment and government price supports for crops. For example farmers would agree not to grow a certain crop so as not to flood the market and bring down the price of corn or wheat or pork etc They were paid not to grow certain crops. . There was a joke that went around about a cousin who got rich not farming. Even though times were good, and farming was profitable, murder/suicides kept happening. As recently as the 1980’s there was a stigma about mental illness and depression. i recall my father and his brother discussing the presidental election and one candidate who had admitted that he had sought treatment for depression They said they could never vote for him because he was a “ crazy and a nut case” people just didn’t talk about being depressed in those days. Thankfully nowdays it is considered a sign of good judgement and healthy to seek treatment if one is feeling depressed . and/or anxious and worried. There are many suicide prevention programs and Crisis lines to call 24/7. There is an ad running on you tube today about an organiztion that provides service dogs to Veterans suffering from PTSD along .with Veterans testimony on how much having an emotional support Dog has changed their lives for the better. from 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🌹
Thanks for sharing your story. Yes. I'm certainly pleased the 'dark da6s' of not talking about mental health are changing....slowly, but it's happening. Thanks for watching
Done very well
Thank you 😊
we tried to buy that 15 years ago but they wouldnt sell . moved away from Tod/hebden now thank god
It'll make a stunning house all restored not sure about all the bad energy that's still there? , been near here when I lived in bury, bit bleak up there.
It will indeed....it deserves to be restored and re-loved 😊
Harrowing stories sensitively told.
Thank you
It’s up for £695,000 wonder how long it will take to sell. It must have an ora about it that affects the men of the family
I thinknits been uo for sale most of the year. Normally old properties are snapped up for renovation when they come available round here....but seemingly not with this one. Thanks for watching
Very sad events . I personally wouldn't buy this land .
Thanks for watching
Visitors calling by at odd times. Especially some bright and breezy ones. A meet up and chat with locals at the pub. Going to church on Sunday and meeting friends there. And if the guys could open up and talk about some feelings at least? Of ctourse reticence about talking too freely about private business can put dampners on talking.
I guess I'm quite open these days about my own personal experiences, but I always hope it's a door to get others talking and to see there is a light at the end of the storm
My boyfriend who came from Hebden was scared of Tod but maybe that was a bit to do with going to Calder High! He said it was creepy and meant Death and Murder! They were kind on the whole with suicide - otherwise the state could take all their estate=- The Thornber brothers used to reign supreme in Mytholmroyd! Happy New Year x
I grew up in Hebden and went to Calder High too....and as a kid was never a Tod fan. I've lived in Tod for 20 years next year, and I love it here now. It's a different place to back then 😊
@@matparks08 I used to run the offie in Mytholmroyd
When was that. I was calder 87.94.
Wow nearly £700,000 it's up for sale for.
It's a lot of money! Not sure how much more on top of that it'll be to make it habitable....but good luck to anyone who gets it
Wow what history
Definitely 👍
Rodwell End Farm, Todmorden, as pictured on Google Earth is NOT the property you visit in your video!?
Rodwell end farm isn't listed on Google earth...Rodwell HEAD farm is....
Very sad a cold damp farm life it must of been in there dna to take there lifes and a hard life
Hard times back then, that's for sure
lol, I had forgotten which day it is1 Happy New year x
Happy new year. Have a cracking 2025 when it arrives 😊
Shouldn’t it be temporary insanity not temporal.
Most likely, though I've used the descriptions from the newspaper articles themselves
There maybe something malevolent in the Barn ?
🤔
I doubt, no such thing as the supernatural.
brave heart who ever buys that place now
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I wonder what it is about the barn. All those men unlived themselves the same way and always in the barn. Don't you find that stranger?
It's very strange. 🫤
I think I will with draw my offer omg
Oh dear 😳