@@jg2722 No one can "take care of themselves" while bleeding out, barely able to stand and likely on the verge of unconsciousness. Despite the way they're often depicted in superhero films, gunshots aren't just a minor ouchie you can shrug off.
now that's deep considering that both walker and the show get dragged to crap by dumb with wings and dumber metal arm and too left for their own good characters that are supposed to be the good guys
23:44 - real-world correction, that's not a water fountain. That's a pretty standard concrete trash bin from Prague. Explanation: the scene in question was filmed at Jungmann Square, the little monument the terrorist runs towards is in memory of Josef Jungmann, a Czech lingvist, poet, and one of the two people credited with creating the modern Czech language. You can clearly see an escalator behind Walker and the terrorist. That leads to a metro station called Můstek, specifically, it's an entrance for the B metro line. The concrete square on which the terrorist meets his end is not there irl, instead, there's a service elevator of some sort.
i take offense for every mentally capable person because they decided to have john walker "murder" the "innocent" terrorist next to a monument of a lingvist and a poet
Goids, this show really made me hate Sam and feel horrible for both Bucky and John (+Lamar, rip) Man's really defended a terrorist, multi-murderer, hated on John just bc he wasn't Steve (even though he gave up the shield on his own accord), tried to bash Bucky for being privileged (as if the man wasn't literally a soviet slave for 70+ years), and then caRRIED KARLI'S DEAD BODY OUT OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF HELPING THE JUST-SHOT SHARON TO GET MEDICAL ASSISTANCE?? Le What??
Yeah, Sam's terrorist sympathizing ass tainted this whole show for me. When Sam told the senator to stop calling them terrorists. He should've told him to shut the fuck up and give his shield back Walker.
It feels like they wanted Zemo to be an ex-lover or sister of Sam. And that's why he makes so many excuses but they cut that detail so he just shares this bizarre almost highschool crush towards this psycho.
@@loserinasuit7880 I agree completely. It very much felt super out of place for them both to defend his actions as if he wasn't directly the cause of not only Sam getting sent to the raft but the Avengers disbanding, officially, for like a few years? Like zemo, aside from enslaving Bucky that one time, literally caused the Civil War Between The Avengers. And thus cause them all to have to go underground. But no, he's actually pretty chill and we do like him because he's a silly guy...sure Sam. And Bucky, FOR SOME REASON...
@redfyresasoiaf I totally forgot Zemo was a dude. I hate marvel with a passion so I was drunk when I watched it with my buddy who's a culture journalist and reviews that stuff for articles. He thought it was a "painfully average" experience. I thought it was awful except for John and his buddy making it semi interesting. I'll stand by that I think Zemo was meant to be a childhood friend or long time supporter. A figure that "wouldn't do this for no reason" type that Sam would endlessly make caveats and justify. But Disney doesn't really want nuanced villains, they need stormtroopers.
I think he is just a really capable guy, like David Goggins in real life. He is "super" when you compare with regular people from the normal world, even trained "regular" top soldiers like real life navy seals, but when you compare him with non-powererd comic-type humans like Dora Milaje you can see he is a really weak dude in his universe
John Walker and Lamar Hoskins are the heroes of this show. It’s crazy how they wanted us to hate them when ironically they are the most likeable aspect. Lamar got done so dirty by the writers for no reason, he deserved better.
"That shield is part of a bygone era." Thank you for pointing out how the shield obviously came to mean more than just being a symbol of America itself. No one can argue that fighting the Nazis was bad, then Steve literally missed the entire Cold War and Vietnam war where the US went down a much darker path, in many cases very clearly being the aggressor and oppressor, and as soon as he's back, he fights off an alien invasion, then the second he has reason to believe his government is compromised, he fights against his government, TWICE. That shield does not represent America. It represents Steve. And it could not have been more clear that Steve Rogers operated independently from the US government. He wasn't their mascot. He was trying to set an example for what they should be.
18:20 I think Karli and her Flagsmashers are satires of what could be called "woke millennials and Gen Z-ers", but I think that was by accident. Maybe the showrunner, who tried to make her sympathetic, was serious, but fumbled the attempt.
Yeah it really felt like them trying to depict a radicalised left. I'm a left winger and sorry it is VERY clear that Carli is a terrorist more interested in committing violence than forcing political action. The nonsensical way she approaches her objectives shows she's either a moron or just enjoys killing. And she wants to just... revert the world back to what it was after the snap? How many nations collapsed into nothing when their leaders disappeared? How many planes fell out of the sky? How many cities starved after losing their ability to coordinate food imports? Anyone with half a brain would want an entity like the GRC to re-establish some sort of global order when half the population returned from the dead. Expecting anything else is sheer lunacy. When the left gets radicalised it tends to be over something sensible, like police refusing to stop murdering black people for fun. Left wingers became far more violent than usual, because the whole damn point was to demonstrate that the police were the enemy. When the entity charged with law enforcement is controlled by criminals, a display of force becomes necessary, because the left had NO ONE to turn to. The implication even if no one said it is to tell the police "Do your job or we will take it upon ourselves to enforce the laws you repeatedly violate. We will replace your law enforcement with our own, and you don't have the numbers to stop us." You know what the BLM protesters didn't do? They didn't start just killing random people who happened to be near police stations, or organising heists against military convoys. Whether someone agrees or disagrees with the conduct of the BLM protests you can't deny that it was way, WAY clearer in terms of the movement's objectives and expected results from their methods than anything the Flag Smashers do.
I disagree. The showrunner very clearly either disagrees with the Flagsmashers or needs to demonize them because they work for Disney and Disney can’t poke the bear that is the status quo. You don’t “accidentally” have your anarchist group blow up innocent people because “It’S tHe OnLy LaNgUaGe ThEy UnDeRsTaNd”. This is a classic case of having a villain who accidentally makes too much sense, so you have to make them do evil things so the superheroes have “no choice” but to stop them, disregard their ideology, and not fix the problems that caused them to start their villainy in the first place.
Really? What’s so awful about my take? Also, one note thing before you respond: this video claims that the Flagsmashers want to kill half of all people on earth to make things the way they were during the blip. This is wrong. They do want things to be how they were during the blip, but the thing they liked and want to come back is the lack of borders, as first world countries needed more cheap labor to make up for their losses. Then again, this also has its issues as the third world countries faced mass emigration during this time, but it obviously has more merit than “Thanos was right and we want to kill half of everyone just cuz”
@@nerd9777The Showrunners clearly agree and want the audience to empathize with the flag smashers, we see them go to a funeral and comfort orphans, sam says they shouldn't be called terrorist, and John Walker is portrayed as a monster for killing one of them The intention is for the audience to empathize with the flag smashers but we just dont because that's stupid
Yeah. Bucky should have walked through the Flag Smashers. They shouldn't have stood a chance against another super soldier, with much better training, and several decades of experience( plus a vibranium arm) . The only possible excuse they could have given would be an internal conflict from Bucky due to his psychological trauma from being mind controlled for more than half a century. But they didn't actually seem to try that.
Great video. This villain is so cartoonishly evil and cracks me up everytime. As for the rest of the show, 10/10 comedy. #JusticeForLemar #JusticeForFrank
I don't get the whole "Zemo is a hero for wanting to get rid of super soldiers" idea. I mean I get it on some level, they're dangerous- but I mean in terms of his moral reasoning. He was quite prepared to use a Super Solider- Bucky- to achieve his ends when he needed it. Was his long term plan to destroy all super soldiers and if so why didn't he kill Bucky? Carli is just stupid because she's a mouthpiece. "That shield is a relic from a bygone age...." - Cap- used his shield to fight Thanos and save the world multiple times.... - Used it in WW2 Was still prepared to give it up to save his best friend Also Carli *asks WW2 veteran who was tortured in a HYDRA prison camp and also fought against Thanos if he ever fought for anyone other than himself. She is just the epitome of the self-righteous myopic worldview of the show overall. She thinks she alone is good (no matter how many she kills) her goals are good and selfless no matter what and of course the end justifies the means.
Honestly, I forgot this show was only 6 episodes. I think that was part of the problem. If they had just a few more episodes to explain the true motivation and put some depth into these characters the flag smashers could have been much better
I think they need to straight up completely rewrite them and their motivations, like there is no saving it, no matter; how much that you want to flesh out this show.
It feels like this show was written on opposite day. They made John Walker into a likable and troubled character who has the world against him simply for being new Captain America, and made the Flag Smasher lead into a selfish monster, but play her death like she is a noble martyr. I do like her as a villain, but the show is not making me "like" her the way it wants me to. BY THE WAY, I did some quick numbers. The Falcon supposedly travels at Mach 2 speeds, which is around 1,534 miles per hour. The distance between New Orleans and New York is 1,304 miles. So putting these numbers together in a formula results in Falcon (or New pro-terrorist Cap) would have made the trip in just over an hour and 20 minutes without bathroom or snack breaks. Maybe have him already be in a jet on the way as he finally open the suitcase? idk....uuuh....#justice4johnwalker.
The Flagsmashers were handled so poorly that I am convinced they were written to show how warped and self righteous ideologues are, but were then told to set them up as misunderstood heroes
the copycat serum is actually inferior: imagine if Steve Rogers retained his skinny short body frame and just got super strength? He'd be at a massive disadvantage since he'd still be light as a feather and wouldn't be as strong as a jacked super soldier and lower lung capacity, not to mention being short tends to be a disadvantage in hand-to-hand combat. Erskine's serum made him taller and stronger, thus a better, healthier fighter. Did the Disney hack writters consider this? No. Of course not.
I have so many changes in mind that should've been made to this show, but if I had to pick only three, it would've been these: 1. Bucky should've gotten the shield. It was teased ever since The First Avenger, and it just made more sense, as well as being more interesting. They could've properly analyzed Steve's legacy, as well as explored Bucky's psyche better. Maybe he starts doubting his friendship with Steve Rogers, wondering why he'd give Bucky such a huge responsibility while Bucky's still trying to figure out how to be something other than a brainwashed murderer, as well as analyzing how society would react to a former brainwashed murderer taking up the shield. Most likely, the government wouldn't want the Winter Soldier taking up the mantle of Captain America, no matter if he was Steve's best friend or not, and that's why they confiscate the shield and give it to Walker. Maybe, after beating John Walker in episode 5, Bucky decides, "Sam didn't want the shield, and Walker desecrated his legacy, so I guess it's up to me", or something. It could've properly explored the theme of military veterans' mental health, which was only brought up by Bucky's therapy and John's rant, but never elaborated on. Plus, I think that in the comics, Bucky's run as Cap was more well-loved than Sam's but that's pretty subjective. 2. The Flag-Smashers should've been scrubbed entirely. They were unlikable villains, their motives made no sense whatsoever, and I've heard of quite a few TH-camrs who say they were the worst villains Marvel has ever done. However, let's say that we HAVE to have them here. Like, it's the rules. We can just have them as starter villains to kick off the plot, similar to the role Crossbones played in Civil War. That way, we can double down on the Super-Soldier commentary that Zemo kept bringing up in the show, rather than forcing half-assed racial politics like they ended up doing. Like, Bucky could be making amends at the beginning of the show, and runs across them, and realizes that they're Super-Soldiers shortly before they die somehow. Rumors could spread that Bucky (as the Winter Soldier) killed them, prompting the government to force Bucky to give up the shield, which he will, as he's uncertain about taking up the mantle. They will then give it to John Walker, who will serve as one of the two antagonists of the show. Somehow, Zemo will learn of the Super-Soldiers, and make it his mission to kill Bucky (and eventually, Walker), citing his philosophy about them. Because of the rumors, the public will be afraid of Bucky becoming the Winter Soldier again, and that would be a good explanation for furthering Bucky's story. 3. Sam and Bucky's animosity to each other should build off of the Captain America movies. One of the biggest expectations I had going into the show was that part of the reason they disliked each other was that Bucky tried to kill Sam three times as the Winter Soldier. First time, Bucky ripped the steering wheel out through the car windshield and lead a team of gun-toting mercenaries on a highway. Second time, he destroyed his wings and drop-kicked him off the side of a Helicarrier. Third time, he grabbed him by the chin and threw him headfirst into the side of a cage. As a result, Sam (justifiably) dislikes Bucky. The problem is, not only was there no resolution in the movies, but the show also never even brought it up once. Instead, the animosity was all about Sam giving up the shield to the government, and consequently, John Walker. And that setup was just used for more jokes at Bucky's expense, just constantly trying to humiliate Bucky and making him look completely incompetent without the all-knowing Messiah, Sam Wilson. By having them actually analyze their relationship and come to some kind of reconciliation, there would be a satisfying payoff that would make sense and pave a future for the two of them being legitimate friends. Let me know what you think about my ideas!
I can tell you put thought into this, which - while not the track I would have gone with - still puts you way ahead of the actual creators of this show.
@@Wolffman109Only point at which I disagree with is the thing about Sam and Bucky's animosity: I don't think the movies really support the idea that they hate one another, especially not by this point. Sam probably understood that what Bucky did as the Winter Soldier was not personal or a result of hatred it was just---- because Sam got in his way, and you didn't want to get in the way of the Winter Soldier. He tried to kill Steve too remember- but Steve never held that against Bucky. In Endgame we see Sam apparently comforting Bucky at Tony's funeral, suggesting there are no hard feelings between them. The series just totally eviscerates Sam's character and his compassionate nature - which was part of the reason why Steve chose him to the next Captain America to begin with. He worked with veterans who had PTSD: there is just no way a person with his training and experiences is going to make jokes and petty snipes about Bucky, or dismiss his trauma. Sam is meant to be kind, friendly and forgiving- that's what made him a good cap: but in this series its purely because he's black. I like the rest of your ideas, and especially the social rejection Bucky might have experienced. Although, he does seem to have been quite good at hiding his metal arm with long sleeves and gloves, plus he wore a mask as the WS so would normal people on the street really have recognized him? The part about the government not fully trusting Bucky would be a useful angle to explore - but I would take it even further. Not just that they don't want him to be Captain America because he was the Winter Soldier, but because of the whole storyline about HYDRA having controlled the government and certain Senators who employed the WS to get rid of political rivals. Its not such a reach to assume some high ups would have been worried about Bucky knowing too much about their dirty and compromising secrets and may have wanted to get rid of him. Maybe a Senator use the flag smashers or a similar group of new super soldiers to try and take out Bucky and he ends up killing one or more of them in self-defense. That's used to "prove" he's still unstable or violent and he has to go into hiding again but first seeks out Sam to get help.
I can see all the work you put into this video dude. The editing, the script, and the audio are all the best you've done so far. And we must never forget the L E N G H T. Good Rat, keep'em coming
I feel like, if they had cut the Flag-Smashers and the Dora Milaje, the show might've stood somewhat of a chance. Obviously, they'd have had to change a lot of other stuff either way, but it's at least a start.
@@IronDeficiencyMan Unfortunately, good writers are few and far between at Marvel Studios these days. All we have left are a bunch of DEI-approved activist hacks who have no respect for the source material or the intelligence of their audience.
What I find funny is that Kali wanted so much to make the government listen to her, but I bet if the government decided to listen to her, she wouldn't know what to say. throughout it would be that she did not present a single minimally viable solution to the problem that she denounced so much. at best she would just transfer the problem to another group of people. Not even Sam, who sympathized with her so much, was able to provide any solution when he was in a position to talk to the government, when they asked what they could do, Sam simply said "I don't know, come on in."
Great video mate. Summarize everything I hate about the Flag Smashers. My Run Hide Fight reviews are done. But I would love to work on Hawkeye first. Then to smash around The Falcon and the Winter Soldier for WTF it has done. I'm going to be interested of your Sam and others video coming later. Keep up the good work
For some idiotic reason I read the title as “The Flag Smashers Are CABBAGE” wth Anyway. Great video dude. I really enjoy watching your editing skills and analysis of a show many people are either to scared to bash on or they think it’s perfect.
I agree with everything except the idea of a criminal , a criminal is someone who commits a crime , a crime is someone who breaks a law. This is the definition but when karli says this she is implying the law she is breaking is unjustified. I’m not saying saying she is right in the laws being unjustified but from her view it is. For instance Harriet Tubman broke many laws made by the us government at the time. Many ideals that the majority of the us agreed with at the time. But her acts are seen as heroic now because slavery now is seen a inhumane and unjustified now. In the 1800s it was standard of living but now it’s seen as bad. It took multiple generations to see the Tubman was a hero. Maybe karli feels like she will be looked on simmarly by history. I’m not saying the grc is doing equivalent stuff to slavery but her feeling like they are doing this type of evil shit is up to her opinion
Really appreciate the support. Still have other works in development. As for this series, I believe I will talk about Sharon first, then John, and finally Sam (which I believe will be the longest one) I'm aiming for the Sharon one to arrive in February hopefully.
@@reddevilosareviews I thought you weren't gonna talk about Sharon, because she doesn't have that much of a role. Are you thinking about talking about Zemo as well?
@@Wolffman109 Upon a rewatch, I found that Sharon does have quite a bit when considering her back to Civil War to now. As for Zemo, I will not do one as I plan to talk about him more in the Sam one.
THANK YOU. As soon as Bucky made a display of being controlled by Zemo, literally everyone should have been trying to execute Bucky. It would have been the final proof in the eyes of many that the Winter Soldier could not be redeemed. If anyone can control a man as dangerous if not more so than Captain America with nothing more than a few code words, he needs to be put down. But everyone just... lets it go? Not to mention there's no way Sam wasn't also filmed standing next to Zemo, implicating him in cooperating in the effort to force the best friend of Steve Rogers back under mind control. At the VERY least, it's clear Falcon needs to be dragged before the UN in handcuffs to explain the situation. And Falcon does not have the benefit of being a super soldier, a billionaire or having an Iron Man suit to deter anyone from taking action that drastic. The average spec ops team could apprehend Falcon.
Four quick things: 1. The Flag-Smasher that John Walker kills is actually called Nico, by the way. Just in case you didn't know. 2. I honestly thought Ultron was a nice villain, but you do you. 3. You misspelled "Soldier" when titling this video. 4. Are you gonna release any videos talking about ways the show could "do better"? Maybe even a couple of complete rewrites?
I found some links that might help in your John Walker video. th-cam.com/video/J0cOGp633g4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/xRB2HR6Rva0/w-d-xo.html Use them, don't use them, it's your choice. Just wanted to help.
A world without borders is simply a time bomb, and it would destroy almosy every culture actually that's currently happening with many people having the same tastes/fashion/culture and more due to the internet And when that happens it would be because of one leader, thus being like the way of the book of revelations from the bible
John had the patience of a saint. From scene one Bucky and Sam were children angry papa USA dared to give away the shield, they gave up. John was thrust into that roll, and tried his best while being sabotaged by two people who wanted him to fail.
@@breyor1 I meant "impatient" after Lamar's death Honestly, I'm too tired to argue. I don't really know what I'm saying. Still have a lot to learn. Going to bed. Goodnight.
The fact that Sam just left a bleeding Sharon in the building and carried Karli unalive body out of the building like what.
@@jg2722 How are the governments supposed to be informed, when even the flagsmashers don't seem to know what their motivations are?
@@jg2722 No one can "take care of themselves" while bleeding out, barely able to stand and likely on the verge of unconsciousness. Despite the way they're often depicted in superhero films, gunshots aren't just a minor ouchie you can shrug off.
@@jg2722 "ignorance" XDDDDDD
Same reaction dude
yea gunshot in the abdomen is THE worst possible wound for a human or animal, as its AGONIZING.
That armored truck was actually representative of the show itself with walker single handedly trying to pull it off a cliff.
now that's deep
considering that both walker and the show get dragged to crap by dumb with wings and dumber metal arm and too left for their own good characters that are supposed to be the good guys
Damn that’s actually a good one!☝️
From what I got is that Captain Falcon was in love with a terrorist and hence is a danger to society... he needs to do better.
Sam and Bucky's characters deserved Better. (And so does John Walker and Lamar)
23:44 - real-world correction, that's not a water fountain. That's a pretty standard concrete trash bin from Prague. Explanation: the scene in question was filmed at Jungmann Square, the little monument the terrorist runs towards is in memory of Josef Jungmann, a Czech lingvist, poet, and one of the two people credited with creating the modern Czech language. You can clearly see an escalator behind Walker and the terrorist. That leads to a metro station called Můstek, specifically, it's an entrance for the B metro line. The concrete square on which the terrorist meets his end is not there irl, instead, there's a service elevator of some sort.
i take offense for every mentally capable person because they decided to have john walker "murder" the "innocent" terrorist next to a monument of a lingvist and a poet
Goids, this show really made me hate Sam and feel horrible for both Bucky and John (+Lamar, rip)
Man's really defended a terrorist, multi-murderer, hated on John just bc he wasn't Steve (even though he gave up the shield on his own accord), tried to bash Bucky for being privileged (as if the man wasn't literally a soviet slave for 70+ years), and then caRRIED KARLI'S DEAD BODY OUT OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF HELPING THE JUST-SHOT SHARON TO GET MEDICAL ASSISTANCE?? Le What??
Yeah, Sam's terrorist sympathizing ass tainted this whole show for me. When Sam told the senator to stop calling them terrorists. He should've told him to shut the fuck up and give his shield back Walker.
It feels like they wanted Zemo to be an ex-lover or sister of Sam. And that's why he makes so many excuses but they cut that detail so he just shares this bizarre almost highschool crush towards this psycho.
@@loserinasuit7880 I agree completely. It very much felt super out of place for them both to defend his actions as if he wasn't directly the cause of not only Sam getting sent to the raft but the Avengers disbanding, officially, for like a few years? Like zemo, aside from enslaving Bucky that one time, literally caused the Civil War Between The Avengers. And thus cause them all to have to go underground. But no, he's actually pretty chill and we do like him because he's a silly guy...sure Sam. And Bucky, FOR SOME REASON...
@redfyresasoiaf I totally forgot Zemo was a dude. I hate marvel with a passion so I was drunk when I watched it with my buddy who's a culture journalist and reviews that stuff for articles. He thought it was a "painfully average" experience. I thought it was awful except for John and his buddy making it semi interesting. I'll stand by that I think Zemo was meant to be a childhood friend or long time supporter. A figure that "wouldn't do this for no reason" type that Sam would endlessly make caveats and justify. But Disney doesn't really want nuanced villains, they need stormtroopers.
I feel like John walker is a mutant before the serum. His reflexes and strength is off the charts compared to other non powered heroes.
I think he is just a really capable guy, like David Goggins in real life.
He is "super" when you compare with regular people from the normal world, even trained "regular" top soldiers like real life navy seals, but when you compare him with non-powererd comic-type humans like Dora Milaje you can see he is a really weak dude in his universe
To be fair this kind of thing is pretty inconsistent
that's like saying Bat family must be mutants rather than just seeing peak human condition
@@animelvr99 Bayman uses peds
John Walker and Lamar Hoskins are the heroes of this show. It’s crazy how they wanted us to hate them when ironically they are the most likeable aspect. Lamar got done so dirty by the writers for no reason, he deserved better.
"That shield is part of a bygone era."
Thank you for pointing out how the shield obviously came to mean more than just being a symbol of America itself. No one can argue that fighting the Nazis was bad, then Steve literally missed the entire Cold War and Vietnam war where the US went down a much darker path, in many cases very clearly being the aggressor and oppressor, and as soon as he's back, he fights off an alien invasion, then the second he has reason to believe his government is compromised, he fights against his government, TWICE. That shield does not represent America. It represents Steve. And it could not have been more clear that Steve Rogers operated independently from the US government. He wasn't their mascot. He was trying to set an example for what they should be.
i like that story where captain america goes to vietnam as support but turns on america
@@ryszakowythough I doubt he would turn to the communists, I feel like he’d go rogue similar to civil war, he’d be trapped in a war between two evils
Flag Smashers sounds like a garage band in Florida.
i wonder which part of their name and MO made falcon claim that "you need to stop calling them terrorists"
18:20 I think Karli and her Flagsmashers are satires of what could be called "woke millennials and Gen Z-ers", but I think that was by accident. Maybe the showrunner, who tried to make her sympathetic, was serious, but fumbled the attempt.
Yeah it really felt like them trying to depict a radicalised left. I'm a left winger and sorry it is VERY clear that Carli is a terrorist more interested in committing violence than forcing political action. The nonsensical way she approaches her objectives shows she's either a moron or just enjoys killing. And she wants to just... revert the world back to what it was after the snap? How many nations collapsed into nothing when their leaders disappeared? How many planes fell out of the sky? How many cities starved after losing their ability to coordinate food imports? Anyone with half a brain would want an entity like the GRC to re-establish some sort of global order when half the population returned from the dead. Expecting anything else is sheer lunacy.
When the left gets radicalised it tends to be over something sensible, like police refusing to stop murdering black people for fun. Left wingers became far more violent than usual, because the whole damn point was to demonstrate that the police were the enemy. When the entity charged with law enforcement is controlled by criminals, a display of force becomes necessary, because the left had NO ONE to turn to. The implication even if no one said it is to tell the police "Do your job or we will take it upon ourselves to enforce the laws you repeatedly violate. We will replace your law enforcement with our own, and you don't have the numbers to stop us." You know what the BLM protesters didn't do? They didn't start just killing random people who happened to be near police stations, or organising heists against military convoys.
Whether someone agrees or disagrees with the conduct of the BLM protests you can't deny that it was way, WAY clearer in terms of the movement's objectives and expected results from their methods than anything the Flag Smashers do.
I disagree. The showrunner very clearly either disagrees with the Flagsmashers or needs to demonize them because they work for Disney and Disney can’t poke the bear that is the status quo. You don’t “accidentally” have your anarchist group blow up innocent people because “It’S tHe OnLy LaNgUaGe ThEy UnDeRsTaNd”. This is a classic case of having a villain who accidentally makes too much sense, so you have to make them do evil things so the superheroes have “no choice” but to stop them, disregard their ideology, and not fix the problems that caused them to start their villainy in the first place.
@@nerd9777Awful take.
Really? What’s so awful about my take? Also, one note thing before you respond: this video claims that the Flagsmashers want to kill half of all people on earth to make things the way they were during the blip. This is wrong. They do want things to be how they were during the blip, but the thing they liked and want to come back is the lack of borders, as first world countries needed more cheap labor to make up for their losses. Then again, this also has its issues as the third world countries faced mass emigration during this time, but it obviously has more merit than “Thanos was right and we want to kill half of everyone just cuz”
@@nerd9777The Showrunners clearly agree and want the audience to empathize with the flag smashers, we see them go to a funeral and comfort orphans, sam says they shouldn't be called terrorist, and John Walker is portrayed as a monster for killing one of them
The intention is for the audience to empathize with the flag smashers but we just dont because that's stupid
Yeah.
Bucky should have walked through the Flag Smashers.
They shouldn't have stood a chance against another super soldier, with much better training, and several decades of experience( plus a vibranium arm) .
The only possible excuse they could have given would be an internal conflict from Bucky due to his psychological trauma from being mind controlled for more than half a century. But they didn't actually seem to try that.
I definitely agree with you on this.the flagsmashers were not good villains
Great video. This villain is so cartoonishly evil and cracks me up everytime. As for the rest of the show, 10/10 comedy.
#JusticeForLemar
#JusticeForFrank
I don't get the whole "Zemo is a hero for wanting to get rid of super soldiers" idea. I mean I get it on some level, they're dangerous- but I mean in terms of his moral reasoning. He was quite prepared to use a Super Solider- Bucky- to achieve his ends when he needed it. Was his long term plan to destroy all super soldiers and if so why didn't he kill Bucky?
Carli is just stupid because she's a mouthpiece.
"That shield is a relic from a bygone age...."
- Cap- used his shield to fight Thanos and save the world multiple times....
- Used it in WW2
Was still prepared to give it up to save his best friend
Also Carli *asks WW2 veteran who was tortured in a HYDRA prison camp and also fought against Thanos if he ever fought for anyone other than himself.
She is just the epitome of the self-righteous myopic worldview of the show overall. She thinks she alone is good (no matter how many she kills) her goals are good and selfless no matter what and of course the end justifies the means.
Sums up Marvel nicely at this point- shitty incoherent plotlines... 😂
John Walker is a di*k, but given almost everyone is an idiot or nuts... 🤷
and villains are somehow the good guys
Honestly, I forgot this show was only 6 episodes. I think that was part of the problem. If they had just a few more episodes to explain the true motivation and put some depth into these characters the flag smashers could have been much better
I think they need to straight up completely rewrite them and their motivations, like there is no saving it, no matter; how much that you want to flesh out this show.
It feels like this show was written on opposite day. They made John Walker into a likable and troubled character who has the world against him simply for being new Captain America, and made the Flag Smasher lead into a selfish monster, but play her death like she is a noble martyr. I do like her as a villain, but the show is not making me "like" her the way it wants me to.
BY THE WAY, I did some quick numbers. The Falcon supposedly travels at Mach 2 speeds, which is around 1,534 miles per hour. The distance between New Orleans and New York is 1,304 miles.
So putting these numbers together in a formula results in Falcon (or New pro-terrorist Cap) would have made the trip in just over an hour and 20 minutes without bathroom or snack breaks.
Maybe have him already be in a jet on the way as he finally open the suitcase?
idk....uuuh....#justice4johnwalker.
The Flagsmashers were handled so poorly that I am convinced they were written to show how warped and self righteous ideologues are, but were then told to set them up as misunderstood heroes
the copycat serum is actually inferior: imagine if Steve Rogers retained his skinny short body frame and just got super strength? He'd be at a massive disadvantage since he'd still be light as a feather and wouldn't be as strong as a jacked super soldier and lower lung capacity, not to mention being short tends to be a disadvantage in hand-to-hand combat. Erskine's serum made him taller and stronger, thus a better, healthier fighter. Did the Disney hack writters consider this? No. Of course not.
I have so many changes in mind that should've been made to this show, but if I had to pick only three, it would've been these:
1. Bucky should've gotten the shield. It was teased ever since The First Avenger, and it just made more sense, as well as being more interesting. They could've properly analyzed Steve's legacy, as well as explored Bucky's psyche better. Maybe he starts doubting his friendship with Steve Rogers, wondering why he'd give Bucky such a huge responsibility while Bucky's still trying to figure out how to be something other than a brainwashed murderer, as well as analyzing how society would react to a former brainwashed murderer taking up the shield. Most likely, the government wouldn't want the Winter Soldier taking up the mantle of Captain America, no matter if he was Steve's best friend or not, and that's why they confiscate the shield and give it to Walker. Maybe, after beating John Walker in episode 5, Bucky decides, "Sam didn't want the shield, and Walker desecrated his legacy, so I guess it's up to me", or something. It could've properly explored the theme of military veterans' mental health, which was only brought up by Bucky's therapy and John's rant, but never elaborated on. Plus, I think that in the comics, Bucky's run as Cap was more well-loved than Sam's but that's pretty subjective.
2. The Flag-Smashers should've been scrubbed entirely. They were unlikable villains, their motives made no sense whatsoever, and I've heard of quite a few TH-camrs who say they were the worst villains Marvel has ever done. However, let's say that we HAVE to have them here. Like, it's the rules. We can just have them as starter villains to kick off the plot, similar to the role Crossbones played in Civil War. That way, we can double down on the Super-Soldier commentary that Zemo kept bringing up in the show, rather than forcing half-assed racial politics like they ended up doing. Like, Bucky could be making amends at the beginning of the show, and runs across them, and realizes that they're Super-Soldiers shortly before they die somehow. Rumors could spread that Bucky (as the Winter Soldier) killed them, prompting the government to force Bucky to give up the shield, which he will, as he's uncertain about taking up the mantle. They will then give it to John Walker, who will serve as one of the two antagonists of the show. Somehow, Zemo will learn of the Super-Soldiers, and make it his mission to kill Bucky (and eventually, Walker), citing his philosophy about them. Because of the rumors, the public will be afraid of Bucky becoming the Winter Soldier again, and that would be a good explanation for furthering Bucky's story.
3. Sam and Bucky's animosity to each other should build off of the Captain America movies. One of the biggest expectations I had going into the show was that part of the reason they disliked each other was that Bucky tried to kill Sam three times as the Winter Soldier. First time, Bucky ripped the steering wheel out through the car windshield and lead a team of gun-toting mercenaries on a highway. Second time, he destroyed his wings and drop-kicked him off the side of a Helicarrier. Third time, he grabbed him by the chin and threw him headfirst into the side of a cage. As a result, Sam (justifiably) dislikes Bucky. The problem is, not only was there no resolution in the movies, but the show also never even brought it up once. Instead, the animosity was all about Sam giving up the shield to the government, and consequently, John Walker. And that setup was just used for more jokes at Bucky's expense, just constantly trying to humiliate Bucky and making him look completely incompetent without the all-knowing Messiah, Sam Wilson. By having them actually analyze their relationship and come to some kind of reconciliation, there would be a satisfying payoff that would make sense and pave a future for the two of them being legitimate friends.
Let me know what you think about my ideas!
What are your guys' thoughts?
@Bright Cloud Thank you, friend. I really appreciate that.
I can tell you put thought into this, which - while not the track I would have gone with - still puts you way ahead of the actual creators of this show.
@@sebastianrubin7476Thank you!
@@Wolffman109Only point at which I disagree with is the thing about Sam and Bucky's animosity: I don't think the movies really support the idea that they hate one another, especially not by this point. Sam probably understood that what Bucky did as the Winter Soldier was not personal or a result of hatred it was just---- because Sam got in his way, and you didn't want to get in the way of the Winter Soldier. He tried to kill Steve too remember- but Steve never held that against Bucky.
In Endgame we see Sam apparently comforting Bucky at Tony's funeral, suggesting there are no hard feelings between them. The series just totally eviscerates Sam's character and his compassionate nature - which was part of the reason why Steve chose him to the next Captain America to begin with.
He worked with veterans who had PTSD: there is just no way a person with his training and experiences is going to make jokes and petty snipes about Bucky, or dismiss his trauma. Sam is meant to be kind, friendly and forgiving- that's what made him a good cap: but in this series its purely because he's black.
I like the rest of your ideas, and especially the social rejection Bucky might have experienced. Although, he does seem to have been quite good at hiding his metal arm with long sleeves and gloves, plus he wore a mask as the WS so would normal people on the street really have recognized him?
The part about the government not fully trusting Bucky would be a useful angle to explore - but I would take it even further. Not just that they don't want him to be Captain America because he was the Winter Soldier, but because of the whole storyline about HYDRA having controlled the government and certain Senators who employed the WS to get rid of political rivals. Its not such a reach to assume some high ups would have been worried about Bucky knowing too much about their dirty and compromising secrets and may have wanted to get rid of him.
Maybe a Senator use the flag smashers or a similar group of new super soldiers to try and take out Bucky and he ends up killing one or more of them in self-defense. That's used to "prove" he's still unstable or violent and he has to go into hiding again but first seeks out Sam to get help.
I can see all the work you put into this video dude. The editing, the script, and the audio are all the best you've done so far. And we must never forget the L E N G H T.
Good Rat, keep'em coming
I feel like, if they had cut the Flag-Smashers and the Dora Milaje, the show might've stood somewhat of a chance. Obviously, they'd have had to change a lot of other stuff either way, but it's at least a start.
Or we could write them better. We don't have to cut the characters and make a new start
@@IronDeficiencyMan Unfortunately, good writers are few and far between at Marvel Studios these days. All we have left are a bunch of DEI-approved activist hacks who have no respect for the source material or the intelligence of their audience.
And maybe stop painting John Walker as a villain and instead as an anti-hero
@@harbour2118 That, too.
Every time I saw Karli I audibly groaned. She ruined any joy experienced watching the show. Batroc should have been the main villain.
What I find funny is that Kali wanted so much to make the government listen to her, but I bet if the government decided to listen to her, she wouldn't know what to say.
throughout it would be that she did not present a single minimally viable solution to the problem that she denounced so much.
at best she would just transfer the problem to another group of people.
Not even Sam, who sympathized with her so much, was able to provide any solution when he was in a position to talk to the government, when they asked what they could do, Sam simply said "I don't know, come on in."
4:10 “Plague doctor”? No, he’s a bird.
Great video mate. Summarize everything I hate about the Flag Smashers. My Run Hide Fight reviews are done. But I would love to work on Hawkeye first. Then to smash around The Falcon and the Winter Soldier for WTF it has done.
I'm going to be interested of your Sam and others video coming later. Keep up the good work
The idea is that, because she was never exposed to the vita-rays, the super-soldier serum is driving Karli mad.
For some idiotic reason I read the title as “The Flag Smashers Are CABBAGE”
wth
Anyway. Great video dude. I really enjoy watching your editing skills and analysis of a show many people are either to scared to bash on or they think it’s perfect.
I agree with everything except the idea of a criminal , a criminal is someone who commits a crime , a crime is someone who breaks a law. This is the definition but when karli says this she is implying the law she is breaking is unjustified. I’m not saying saying she is right in the laws being unjustified but from her view it is. For instance Harriet Tubman broke many laws made by the us government at the time. Many ideals that the majority of the us agreed with at the time. But her acts are seen as heroic now because slavery now is seen a inhumane and unjustified now. In the 1800s it was standard of living but now it’s seen as bad. It took multiple generations to see the Tubman was a hero. Maybe karli feels like she will be looked on simmarly by history. I’m not saying the grc is doing equivalent stuff to slavery but her feeling like they are doing this type of evil shit is up to her opinion
This was fantastic! Can't wait for your John Walker and Sam videos! How soon you thinking?
Really appreciate the support. Still have other works in development. As for this series, I believe I will talk about Sharon first, then John, and finally Sam (which I believe will be the longest one) I'm aiming for the Sharon one to arrive in February hopefully.
@@reddevilosareviews I thought you weren't gonna talk about Sharon, because she doesn't have that much of a role. Are you thinking about talking about Zemo as well?
@@Wolffman109 Upon a rewatch, I found that Sharon does have quite a bit when considering her back to Civil War to now. As for Zemo, I will not do one as I plan to talk about him more in the Sam one.
@@reddevilosareviews Oh, okay. Makes sense, I guess. I look forward to your next video with great anticipation! 🙂
I don't wanna add pressure, but how soon are you thinking of the Sharon, John and Sam videos? I'm sorry if I'm being pushy.
Appreciate the iron fist shoutout. Seems it's no longer the worst marvel show.
THANK YOU. As soon as Bucky made a display of being controlled by Zemo, literally everyone should have been trying to execute Bucky. It would have been the final proof in the eyes of many that the Winter Soldier could not be redeemed. If anyone can control a man as dangerous if not more so than Captain America with nothing more than a few code words, he needs to be put down. But everyone just... lets it go? Not to mention there's no way Sam wasn't also filmed standing next to Zemo, implicating him in cooperating in the effort to force the best friend of Steve Rogers back under mind control. At the VERY least, it's clear Falcon needs to be dragged before the UN in handcuffs to explain the situation. And Falcon does not have the benefit of being a super soldier, a billionaire or having an Iron Man suit to deter anyone from taking action that drastic. The average spec ops team could apprehend Falcon.
14:08 Anybody whenever I open my mouth.
I can understand preferring life during the blip but I can’t under anything else about these people.
35:26 México cameo hahaha.
Btw great video
Four quick things:
1. The Flag-Smasher that John Walker kills is actually called Nico, by the way. Just in case you didn't know.
2. I honestly thought Ultron was a nice villain, but you do you.
3. You misspelled "Soldier" when titling this video.
4. Are you gonna release any videos talking about ways the show could "do better"? Maybe even a couple of complete rewrites?
Excellent Video. Keep up the good work.
They also gender changed the character of flag smasher.
This makes good rat.
Stay up Soham
Then again this is a superhero movie and physics are mostly thrown out the window
I found some links that might help in your John Walker video.
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Use them, don't use them, it's your choice. Just wanted to help.
great video! couldn't have said it better!
Why did u feel the need to call out Joaquin Torres's race?
Who?
@@geeebuttersnap2433 he called it out in the video. It just rubbed ne the wrong way
@@geeebuttersnap2433 Mexican Falcon
awesome
What do I think of this show? I’ve seen shit, literal diarrhea that looks better than Falcon and the winter soldier.
A world without borders is simply a time bomb, and it would destroy almosy every culture
actually that's currently happening with many people having the same tastes/fashion/culture and more due to the internet
And when that happens it would be because of one leader, thus being like the way of the book of revelations from the bible
I didn't mind the show honestly, except for John Walker and The Flag Smashers
To me, John was an incompetent, unhinged, impatient a**hole
John had the patience of a saint. From scene one Bucky and Sam were children angry papa USA dared to give away the shield, they gave up.
John was thrust into that roll, and tried his best while being sabotaged by two people who wanted him to fail.
@@breyor1 I meant "impatient" after Lamar's death
Honestly, I'm too tired to argue. I don't really know what I'm saying. Still have a lot to learn. Going to bed. Goodnight.