Watame And Subaru Getting So Fired Up Talking About How Weak Botan Actually Is【Watame/Subaru】
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2023
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The way Watame got so smug and how Subaru get so jealous of ShishiWata www
One day Shuba, one day. I'm rooting for ShishiShuba too.
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【＃スバルの小屋】スバルの小屋 ゲスト：WATAMEちゃん！/WATAME Suba Free Talk【ホロライブ/大空スバル】
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It never gets old hearing Subaru sound like she's in the next room but still twice as loud as her collab partner
When Aloe graduated it was Botan who managed to stay steadfast on that stream so that the others could focus on venting their emotions a little. Even nowadays I feel like on-stream she very rarely lets her weakness show, so it's nice to know that at least off-stream she leans on her friends for support.
She did break when Coco was about to graduate, though.
@@meinelust me too man.. me too
@@meinelust We all broke down with Coco's graduation one way or another...
I wonder if she ever takes the time to check on Delutaya and Kson.
I know a few other people who are like that as well. They are completely different in private, and during work. A former boss of mine would always have this aura of dignity, and professionalism about himselfe while at work, but was a real goofball in private. And I'm the same, to an extend. I'm way more confident when I'm at work, telling people what to do, and talking to the planning department about problems, or possible improvements to a project. I would never assert myself like that in my private life.
Botan: let's go grab some food
Watame: why do i have a bad feeling about this
Botan early days vs Botan after Coco's graduation totally have different mindsets. I feel like she tries to reach out to everyone more often rather than bottling her feelings like before.
That she does. She's learned to value the time she has. You never know when the hourglass will run out of sand.
The people with the most tears are often some of the strongest people. They've lived through some of life's worst sufferings and have learned to sympathize and carry other's griefs as well. Watame and Subaru seem like those types of people.
Subaru and Watame talking about how cute botan is is certainly a mood www
I like the notes at the end. Shows that you're being thoughtful about how you translate rather than just pumping out as many clips as quickly as possible to farm views.
I am a viewer and a fan first, after all www
So I want to make sure I keep the balance of conveying what our idols are saying while also making sure it's not too literal that it makes it hard to understand(that's where our QC-sama comes into place 🙏).
I'm very glad you enjoyed the TL notes!!
i really really appreciate that when you're in doubt, you directly translate what was said, instead of stupidly putting your own interpretation. Always directly translate, and let people figure out the rest is the best thing a translator can do, in my opinion. And both sentences that you directly translated, I immediately understood what watame was trying to say from context of the situation :) thank you!!
I really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts too!!
Thank you too and glad you enjoyed the clip!! 💪
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 Giving explanations at the end was also good, even if the direct translations are self-evident
There isn't always a direct way to translate everything, which is why it takes a lot of skill and knowledge to be a good translator. So while there are some bad translators out there, try to recognize that it's not so easy and directly translating everything doesn't always make the most sense.
100% agree on this too, translating everything too literally isn't a pretty scene either. Like, Japanese is very short and contextual, so everything will turn into a mess when translated literally.
For example, "後ろ!/Ushiro!", it literally means "Behind!/Back!", but just shouting "Back!/ Behind!" is very weird and doesn't actually accurately convey what the speaker is saying.
That's why, depending on the context, I would add additional word, for example, "Behind you!", "From behind!" or "From the back!", even though it was just a single word.
But yeah, like all things in life, balance is very crucial and should be the goal.
I love thia entire comment thread.
Gen 4 could rely on Coco for most of their concerns, but once she graduated, they had to be strong so that they can support each other.
Gen 4 is the only generation I can't point a finger and tell who's the leader figure.
Botan is a soft kitten, there is no doubt about that, but her recognising and talking about her worries ans weak moments shows true inner strength and courage. You are no less strong for talking about your problems and seeking help when you need it, bottling up your emotions when they are affecting you is harmful in the long run, nor everyone is able to handle their worries with just a good night's sleep and there's nothing wrong with that
Isn't Subaru's mental fortitude pretty strong? I think before joining Hololive she had her former home burned down, but she still applied for Hololive. I remember this because her story is basically the plot of a manga, REC 🤣
It's mixed. Subarus mental fortitude is more like never give up when life gives you crap. But she's mentally weak to other things more trivial and small things
A mentally strong person named Subaru huh..
Subaru was born with a hole in her heart, was in a car accident at some point and then her home burnt down. No wonder she is so genki having gone through all that
And had a bad time dealing with rabbit.....
has black hair, and is extroverted..
BOTAN IS SO CUTE!
This revelation might be surprising to some at first but I think Botan in general is just really good at keeping it together on stream and prefers to only be vulnerable off stream. It makes sense to think Botan is really strong but after learning more about her, it's not surprising to hear she's different from that initial impression. Side note, I, too, am rooting for ShishiShuba 🙏
Thanks for the subs!
AYE!!!! FELLOW SHISHISHUBA GANG!!! 🤝
Thank you too, Scizor!!
The only time I saw her vulnerabilities on stream is when she totally breakdown in one of the Ark collab stream with Coco,right before Coco Graduation..totally caught off my guard and really made me understand her better aside from her strong fronts/cool persona..also,I found it sweet that Watame is taking care of Botan,just like how Coco took care of Watame back then❤
@@kunam2694 that was a big turning point for our lioness. Before that she didn't really prioritize meeting the others personally given those were covid years but after that you can tell she really branched out and learned her lesson. She's not gonna regret again. She frequently meets with members offline just to hang out or eat. She's in multiple "units" now etc.
@@kunam2694
God do I hope she got to meet with Coco offstream.
Gap Moe Botan
I also think that Subaru is mentally strong. She is a very goal driven person, she sets herself an objective and does not stop struggling to overcome any obstacle that can appear before her to reach said objective. Like, her learning English. She is determined to be able to speak English as a second language, and has practiced so much last year that nowdays she can hold up a simple conversation. If she keeps it up, in one or two more years she would have achieved her goal of being able to speak in English. And you KNOW she's going to do it, Subaru is unstoppable when she sets up a goal for herself.
Within each Gen that debuts, there's always one member who comes off as the "leader" of the group I feel. Not in a way that they're more important than the rest, but instead that they are forerunner of the group, either being the most dependable, professional, or skilled. For Gen 5, it's Botan who comes off as the ace of the group. One of our first impressions of her was keeping a strong front when Aloe graduated.
When you have to be that strong, it's good to find someone you can be vulnerable around.
Indeed. A beam that is too hardened doesn't bend, it outright shatters.
Eh. I never saw Botan as a leader and I doubt she would either. Lamy is the leader in my eyes. She ALWAYS organizes things for the other gen 5. She keeps track of them makes sure they're on time and are responding to messages properly. Botan while responsible and on time is more chill and has never really lead the gen 5. If anything I'd put polka way higher than Botan in terms of leadership skills and dependability. I love gen 5 but polka takes care of the others mentally while Lamy takes care of the physical things. Botan is more a solid foundation. She's grounded and logical (except for her flying fear). When the other 2 need someone to rely on that's when the lazy lioness makes her move. But usually she's just chilling letting the others take the lead. And to finish my metaphor Nene is the fluffy decorator that makes everyone beautiful and stand out
Nepolabo doesn't have a leader figure. I always feel they're 4 soulmate
@MrZaazzzz until polka stays sleeping
@@venkaramon I agree with you! I think Popo and Lamy are the ones that may be called "leaders", Botan is more like a vicepres or something like that lmao, that's for me at least
I love the jpn lessons at the end
Botan considers Watame a true friend if she shows her weakness to her. Botan seems invincible during streams and collabs so this gap moe is cute.
This clip deserves love!!! Thank you for the amazing video and ending! Loved it!!!! Arigato!!!
Thank you very much for giving some context to certain ways of interpretation of the translation!
Wait. Isn't Botan brave for asking friends out or to lend an ear. It's good self-care.
Definitely! Watame did said she's weak, but that didn't meant she was ridiculing Botan or anything. Just that, Botan always looks strong, so having a vulnerable really makes her more human to Subaru and us.
Definitely agree that it's very brave of her to ask for help during times of weakness! 💪
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 this so much. I think Watame meant it more like from the talents to the fans think and see Botan as this cool calm lion which she is but she also has this other more vulnerable side she shows to her friends off stream.
There's a reason the talents who have met her see her more as a little sister and adorable than what fans see as cool onee San type
@@venkaramon
Then again after her Shishimouto bits, she fits the little sister part well even for fans lmao 🤣
On the flip-side I feel like it takes a lot of courage to be vulnerable with others.
@@Silk_WD Yeah, that’s some massive confidence being able to show your vulnerable side with no fear of being ridiculed
I called this at her debut. During a collab with Okayu, she admitted as much.
Now, it's laid bare before us. Thank you, Subaru. Thank you, Watame. I am fully vindicated at last.
Thank you for including vocabulary explanations! That was interesting.
Your explanations say the end are so useful to me, thank you!
I am very happy that you keep the translation more literal, as I'm trying to understand the metaphors. Context is so much more important in Japanese than I first thought
Thank you for translate all this stuff 💕💕💯
Love the notes at the end.
Nice clip!! Subaru and Watame is the collab I didn't realize I needed! Only recently have I realized that Watame and Fauna have a lot in common: soft-spoken and big-hearted, but clever and funny, and rock-solid temperaments that aren't easily upset. Watame stands out for her drive to sing and perform, and inventive shorts, but recently I kind of feel like Fauna is really trying new things, doing more collabs, and "developing as a performer" if that makes sense.
Others said it too, but translating directly (with or without notes) is definitely the way to handle phrases that could be misinterpreted. MUCH better for some people to say, "eh? I don't understand!" than to have people misunderstanding and posting on Twitter or in a SC. Plus it's interesting to learn Japanese idioms!
Oh, one last note, a translation of "eigyou bougai" that doesn't sound extreme could be, "tarnish her image". A common use of the term "image" is a performer's "public persona".
yo! i never seen translation notes like that before! That's so cool!
You the goat!
THANKS!!!
When I saw comments like yours,
it always gives me motivation to to not cut corners and do my best!
Once again, thank you!! 🙏
Sometimes Watame makes me think she's strong because she has to. Same vibe from Shuba-chan. When life hits you, taking it on the chin is all you can do, and that hardens people. But at the same time, I have two verses from a song about toughness that I always think of:
"O que é o que é,
Clara e salgada,
Cabe em um olho
e pesa uma tonelada."
(Translate as needed, posting it in Portuguese because I wanted to keep the rhyme)
That said, I dunno about Botan's face of this 'cool person' like everyone says. Maybe it's an outsider's perspective since I'm about as removed from a native Japanese's outlook as you can get, but she's always struck me as tender and expressive. Not weak like Watame says, but delicate.
Krai, um brasileiro que curte Hololive ksksks concordo, Botan me passa mais uma vibe de delicada doq fraca propriamente dito
@@Kaemi_G Nós somos a legião kaigai-niki mais ninja do planeta, infestando em silêncio as comunidades japonesas, inglesas e indonésias. Não importa onde você vá, sempre vai ter um brasileiro!
E sim, ela é mesmo delicada. Botan é bem composta e sabe como agir de acordo com a situação, mas nunca deixando de ser fofa e feminina. É a leoa gatinha que, se você chega com o dedo curvado, ela esfrega a bochecha nele. 🥰
@@DinnerForkTongue Siiim! Dá pra se dizer que é o charme dela, por isso e por vários outros motivos eu gosto da Botan.
Very nice translation work! I thought "wet my pillows" was the right move. I always like reading translator's notes
thanks good clip
Sukida's icon won't stop haunting my dreams.
Thank you very much for the WataSuba clip!
Botan just softening her prey.
Whoops. Sheep gave away a little bit much there. Botan's tough girl image... lol
After watching all the episodes of Watame's Have A Nice Day series, I agree that Botan is surprisingly weak/cute in her own ways, even though she seems like she would be a toughie. It's really cool to see the genuine personalities behind their characters sometimes like this
Subaru has been an SSRB from before Botan even debuted
Comment for the algorithm gods.
Nice video also
Lol, who would've thought the Lalioness is so soft when she's off-stream, that's cute. Thanks a lot for the translations, the evident amount of effort you put them and the close attention you put into details is highly appreciated. Also, the vocabulary and translator notes at the end are always such a treat to read!
Regarding to the term which you translated as "obstruction of bussiness", since you state that all the other possible interpretations of "damaging her reputation" might sound too serious, thus inapropriate for the tone, I'm curious about what you think of "Image Defamation" or something like that. Cheers.
Thank you too for your kind words of praise!!! 🙏
Hmmm~ I checked out the word, and seems like all the common points for the words Defamation/Libel/Slander are all related to false.
It's the act of spreading false statement which drop a person's reputation.
That's why I think it's hard to use for this, as what Watame said are all the truth after all.
Cheers my friend!!! 🧃
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 I see. Thanks a lot for the answer! :D
@@cdg670 Thank you too for sharing!! Do please share again!!
Based on your explanation of the line "obstruction of business" you could have potentially gone with "breaking character".
(I actually think "breaking kayfabe" is more accurate but since even plenty of native English speakers don't know what "kayfabe" means, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to use in a translation, lol. It's just the phrase that makes the most sense to me given the context.)
Shuba and Watame: *Say Botan is weak*
Botan: *Loads shotgun* "I'll show my Senpais who's weak."
Also Botan: Owww my shoulder! 😭
@@DinnerForkTongue There's not that much of kick to a shotgun that's fired from the shoulder.
@@KingOfYamimakai
For the average man, yes, a 00 Buck 12ga shell ain't a lot of recoil. But Botan is not a guy, she's a relatively small Asian girl.
Also you missed that I'm playing into the "she's weak" bit.
goated translation, minimum localisation/ interpretation, always good to learn new japanese, instant sub
A duck and a sheep trash talking a lion being weak.
Looks like Botan’s gonna have feast.
It’s nice to see a glimpse of them off-cam and knowing Botan has older siblings and other holomems noted how she has little sister vibes, It’s cute.
It’s also great to give info on some words and phrases 👍👍👍
that cotton candy sheep is the most battle hardened off all holomem IRL
After Botan's crying fit in the SF6 tournament, this hits different.
kinda true, we rarely see Botan streaming at night/midnight
She is just luring her prey
Ts note tskr!
Is that some delicious monster hunter music I hear at the end?
Ay!!~ A fellow hunter!!! 🏹
凹むしない - you've translated that as "bullheaded" which I find to be an interesting choice of word. Does it have a negative connotation? Or could you use something more neutral/positive like unyielding or tenacious and have the same vibe?
......because Watame is a sheep with horns. So I used bull-headed, because bull have horns too wwww
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 Alright touché, your terrible puns are on a level too.... different.... for me to perceive
wwww Well, to answer some of your questions in more details, one of the factor that made me used "bull-headed" is because Korone, Lui, and Botan discussed how Watame is unexpectedly quite stubborn before, so that talk affected my decision this time, as bull-headed can also be a negatively connoted word, just like stubborn.
Understandable. It is hard for Botan, when you can't solve a problem with headshot. People start screaming.. lots of stress.
Watamental is too strong
for the 営業妨害 - would something along the lines that translates from "defamation" work? Because, while not actually meeting the definition (it doesn't count as defamation if it's actually true), it legally counts as slander under Japanese law, IIRC
Oh!!! Like you said, it doesn't fit the definition because it's true, but I feel like you are onto something there!
I will take my time contemplating the word "Defamation", whether there is a way to utilize it or be used as a reference. Thanks!! 💪
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 imo defaming/defamation immediately paints a pretty negative picture, while "obstruction of business" is a bit tongue-in-cheek, coldly calling their streaming and their character as "business". but maybe thats just me, as i heard that joke a bunch of times before.
i imagine for someone not familiar with it it'd be confusing either way.
I think "slander" could fit, considering people are making memes about "(something) slander". Would still need context tho, maybe.
Botan not strong... she just have strength enough to pull trigger
sheep stronk lion weak
The vocab a the end is a real nice touch haha. For whatever reason I just drummed up a conveluted way to memorize them that somehow works in my brain. Typing it out here to help me ingrain the vocab.
OchiKonda - Picture in your mind Ochi= Orochimaru (naruto) + Konda=Kanata (hololive), Orchimaru is 'evil' getting kanata to feel down so shes flying/falling down. Thus Ochikonada = feeling down.
Hekomushinai - Heko = Pekora running 'H'ead on into a Mushi - a mushroom, and nai already means 'no'. So i imagine Pekroa running full bull headed on into a mushroom and bonces off with the nai, but keeps on trying. Thus shes being bullheaded raming the mushroom and not backing down from taking no as a answer.
UchiTokete - Uchi = sea urchin. Tokete - sounds like a otomotapea for a 3 stage sound effect of cracking open the sea urchin. To is the inital crack, ke is the ripping middle, and te is the final busting open of the urchin and inside is a heart. Thus opening up the heart in a literal kind a way.
Ue - I just tried remembering this by plain memory haha. But can also think of a monkey "uuuuu'ing like fauna but with a 'e' at the end. And like the way most classic gorillas uuu and bang their chests they are almost looking up, so in my head ue is like the monkey trying to look higher as they bang their chest uuuuing.
Daijoubu - already known vocab by many I'm sure so no need to do any convoluted thinking here ahah.
All the best my guy, I'm rooting for ya!!📣
@@SSRB_Botandyn_446 Means alot thank you :) ill be watching!
might've still been better to go with "cried in my pillow" because "wet my pillow" feels very similar to "wet my bed".
granted, her "leaking" a lot is a bit of a joke in her stream, but still.
thanks for the translation! my imagine of botan really changed over the last couple months, after so many members saying shes like a little girl/sister, lol.
Nah dude, "wet my pillow" is a legitimate separate saying and does not have the same connotation as wetting the bed.
@@kabob21 didnt say its the same, just that clarifying it as "crying" is better, especially for people whose first language isnt english.
Botan at the highest of the highest level, watame is there for her 🫡😎