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Hi Nicole
- I must say that your somewhat negative attitude to studying surprises me. How can we maintain our humanitarian and empathetic society without students studying e.g. philosophy, comparative religion, global inequality, modern art, gender studies, humanitarianism, Global South challenges, sociology and global warming (to name just a few)? As far as I am concerned, enlightenment is the only way forward.
@@peterwulff469 You can study your heart out, learn, explore, expand your mind and enlighten yourself all you want. But don't go into $50k of debt doing it, and don't martyr yourself for a career that will never pay your bills.
@@AccordingtoNicoleNicole, I agree with a lot of your opinions in your past videos. You really motivated me to save money and avoid debt, so I appreciate that. However, I honestly have to disagree with your points that are made in this video. If it wasn't for college, I wouldn't have the job security like I do now. To each their own, but everyone needs to think critically and not accept everything they hear as truth.
@@peterwulff469I think those disciplines and interests are like the oxygen mask in the plane. You have to get your own mask on first (great paying job/career/own business) and then help others with their masks (volunteering/activism/political action). Also you can learn a ton all by yourself at home for free using sources online to study the world. Remember that when a wealthy institution (university) teaches you stuff, they may not always be of pure intention.
This experience scam is just to give people the least salary and most tasks and responsibilities, ending up spending this minumal income on health issues and that's it
Companies want a 20-year-old, with the work ethic of a 30-year-old, the maturity of a 40-year-old, the experience of a 50-year-old, who will work for the salary of a 10-year-old.
Hmm Hmm...
perfectly said 👏
Nailed it
5 years of experience with a tax software program that's only existed for 2. Totally reasonable.
exactly!!!
Exactly!
I hire people onto a team of project and product managers and IT support. The hardest skill for me to find is someone who is good with people. If you can be professional and articulate, and show that you know interpersonal communications, you will be miles ahead of anyone else applying for the same job. I find skills can be taught, but finding someone with a good personality is hard. Just my 2 cents as a hiring manager.
Serious question. How do you determine if someone has a good personality in an interview? Is this multiple interviews? It seems like that would be hard to do with one interview only. Thanks.
Yes tell us! Also, can you hire me?
@@nanshe3x You have a conversation. You dont sit and just ask questions, you talk to them about stuff that makes them excited, then just listen. I hate when I see managers ask a bunch of questions .. instead, have a conversation, get the candidate to talk about things they are excited about. Let them tell you stories... When I get someone sit down for an interview, i ask them to just tell me all about themselves as if I want to get to know them outside of skillsets or experience.. I've had zero turnover on my team in the last 5 years, except for 3 retirements. I just recently hire someone for a technical position. He knows nothing about IT, but he told me about restoring a car. Listening to how excited he was to restore his car and how he worked through problems convinced me, he was the person I was looking for.. I can teach him how to be technical, thats the easy part, being excited about learning and facing challenges in a positive way, you can't teach that.
I know what you mean. Success often comes down to personality and public speaking ability.
@@nanshe3x - *It may SEEM like it would be difficult; but, when you're in the presence of someone who is engaging and/or empathetic and/or fun/funny and/or emotionally intelligent, it's not difficult at all.* 🖖🏽
I have 25 years of auto experience and can make any shop 400k a year, I ask for 100k salary and they laugh, so I work at home and have a shop and make 100$ an hour where people VALUE my experience and time. Time is value Thank you Nicole!
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My hot take on this is that universities in the past (let's say 80s-early 00s) really did cultivate an atmosphere of networking and interaction in the classroom, and coached students toward soft skills and interviewing techniques. Mentors in the entry level workplace and professors were likely to send you leads on jobs and write recommendations. Professional appearances were still a big thing too. I'm not saying it should still be like it was 20-30 yrs ago but I do think this is all part of why now it's so different. I feel like my 90s bachelor's degree was simply worth more. Now it would be 4-5 times the price and primarily online and I don't think I would reap even a fraction of the same benefits I did back then.
I graduated in the early 2000s from an institute in England. The lecturers lied to us, telling us we’d get good jobs after graduation, so on and so forth. We graduated and then we left on our own. When I went job hunting employers were going on about my education
@@seltzermint5 Hi. In my 1984-1987 UK biochemistry degree we had a talk from a careers guy and another about whether to do a PhD. Nothing about career strategy or developing and making use of contacts - just lots and lots of cellular physiology and molecular genetics.
@@notreallydavid probably very different to my experiences late 90s in the US studying communications and humanities.
I recently looked at the 8th grade graduation knowledge requirements for a student in the state of Kansas...... in year 1895. MOST ADULTS TODAY could not answer even half the questions on that exam. The education system has made people stupider and stupider and stupider.
Need a good steady job? Become a mechanic. Any type of mechanic. It is a Employees market, and has been for a very long time. Cars, trucks Buses, locomotives. They are all hiring, and paying a living wage. Don't worry about getting your hands dirty. It all washes off in the shower. WIDE OPEN. Instead of 3K people vying for one opening, it's reverse. Good luck young people.
It reeaalllly depends on the field. I majored in biology, and it directly led to my current job in research. I absolutely graduated with "marketable skills," and I don't think I was learning outdated material. Things may be completely different in the world of marketing and business. Maybe you don't need a degree for those fields. I DO agree that the cost of college is obscene and it needs to change.
Great video as always Nicole. So many people attend college with no real direction and end up in debt working at a job that has nothing to do with their degree. Your videos express what I think about many different subjects with is so refreshing. Cheers from Texas and have a great day !!
It's not just debt. You lose 4-6 years of your life.
Which could've been used to make money and gain experience.
Those 4-5 years at university are usually the best years for many. Have you been to university or you just talking nonsense because you think you know something?
@@Adelina-293 yeah, let's go to work when we still in primary school. Why to lose so many years for learning when we could just work and pay taxes?
@@coockiekat When you jump out of an airplane, the first minute is great, magnificent view, thrilling sensations. Then, as an absent-minded ADHD type of person you realize you forgot to strap on your parachute...
Financially, following the wrong major in college then graduating into a stagnant overcrowded market is just as bad!
@@coockiekat In the book The Millionaire Next Door they do the math on someone that goes to work right out of high school vs college. The high school grad ends up with more money at the end of their career IF they choose the right job and aggressively save. I'm pretty sure none of Nicole's viewers are advocating for child labor.
Hi Nicole !!! I appreciate all the great advice and knowledge that you have !!! ❤❤❤😊
The debt versus value depends as much on you as to what they teach in school. Too many students are there for the piece of paper versus actually learning something they can apply. I got my degree in Computer Science but did CS because I loved developing. By the time I got to school I had already built a lot of systems for customers. College just sharpened the skills and introduced me to new technologies and techniques. I did not have that many job offers, but the company I went with doubled, and then doubled again my salary in the first 3 years I was there.
Going to college is one of the worst mistakes I've made in my life. I ended up teaching myself most of the time, meaning that I could have just bought the books I used in the classes and avoided the tuition. There were a few great teachers, but most were just ehhh. My college doesn't even exist anymore; they were embroiled in scandals involving accreditation and poor gainful employment numbers. I tried transferring to another college halfway in to my program and none would accept the credits I already had.
It's because you made bad choice going to the college you went to and also probably chose the wrong major. This is how you wasted money and time, and im sorry about your credits not being transferred/ accepted in other colleges when we know that online courses today have more and more accreditation and are accepted in most colleges. If you went through these resources and done this process, you would have finished college faster, and paid way less money with a great bachelors degree that would have opened up doors in so many different sectors.
@@buuzy252 I'm aware of all of this, but no one thinks they've chosen the wrong major or college when they first start out. And my major wasn't wrong per se. It just suffered from being a trendy/popular field at the time, and some colleges took advantage by letting anyone who could write their name with a crayon into the programs. This resulted in a whole lot of graduates looking for work, which enabled employers to be ultra selective when hiring. I would have happily moved to another state for work, but my partner at the time wouldn't, so I felt just a bit stuck.
There were no online class options when I went. I would have taken advantage of that had they been.
@@MultipleOffenses what major you were into if you don’t mind me asking?
@@buuzy252 Started out in computer animation, then transferred to graphic design as, ironically, I thought it would provide more job options.
@@MultipleOffenses animation and graphic design are highly competitive fields - graphic design supplemented that with web design would be more marketable.
My degree from Indiana university means that I completed my Bachelors degree and no one can take it away. Without my degree I would have been in big trouble my salary would have been super low I thank God for my degree I have had several careers and it is because of my degree
I can say the same about me, living in Reykjavik. I have Masters degree in physics.
Try taking a student loan out today in the USA......
It also depends on your personality and values. If financial security is the most important thing to you (I have a sister like that), then ok, follow the advice in this video. Ignore your passion and instead choose a job with a high demand for workers. That will lead to a depressing and unsatisfying life for many people. To those people - FOLLOW YOUR PASSION. DO NOT BE AFRAID. You might have to do side jobs while pursuing your passion. But if you follow your passion, you'll probably work hard at it and you'll probably get really good at it. You'll probably make money eventually - but maybe not at first.
I just discovered your channel, and I love your content! Your thought process is so clear and makes a lot of sense.
Nicole,
I agree with you 100%! Keep up the great work!
Something I read in MAD magazine years ago said it all: To the effect of "Here I am, a senior in High School, Top Dog, about to graduate, only to become a lowly freshman again in the fall."
I started university but quickly realised I had enough and left. My dad offered the money to go somewhere "good", but I refused. Left and did programming. Window of opportunity wide open.
Nearly 50 years later, technically retired but still doing a bit of consulting. Choose something (1) fun and (2) scarce.
I'm so grateful I can work from home. I do legal transcription for a US company, never deal with a boss, make my own hours, can take a 6 month vacation if I want to. English is my 2nd language and I'm a high school drop out, just a smart and crafty one. I earn about $35 US an hour in my PJs.
if your company needs more help, let a sister know :)
The problem with your anti-college argument is that it relies on an incomplete premise. Although college can be approached as a jobs program, that is not its primaray purpose. Its primary purpose is to manage the frontiers of knowledge. This primary purpose naturally has a great deal of overlap with the quest for employment - but one must understand that employment is incidental, and must be pursued on its own terms, regardless of how one may have developed the requisite knowledge and skills.
Go to college to expand your social, intellectual, and professional horizons - not just as a jobs program.
It's way too too expensive to just go to college for knowledge. There are a lotta rich resources on the internet that can teach you what you want and help to develop the skills you need in a period of few weeks or months
Tell that to those law & medical school students. Guess they are really going to work for philanthropic non-profits!
I feel this is one of those things you have to experience and live through before you really get it. Life is about learning. That's it.
Bull hockey. Most colleges, like most high schools, are a total waste of time. They only exist so teachers can have jobs.
what a stupid comment. You should be banned from commenting. Go to College to expand your horizons 😂 move along cup cake
I'm a truck driver, and I'm averaging 102000 a year in the States, I don't know the pay rates in Canada.
One of my daughters dropped out of college as soon as she realized the mistake she had made by enrolling, and now she owns her own business and is doing great. My youngest daughter went to technical school for radiation therapist technician. It's an associate degree, she has been working on that field for about a year and making 40.00 an hour, I encourage young people not to get in debt for thousands of dollars for a degree that has no future.
You can find your passion outside your job, don't be fooled by banks, and "school ounselors" who don't have your best interest in mind.
How many hours a week do you work to make $102k?
@@Nikolasto77They work a lot
Truthfully, about 48 or 50, and I'm home every other day, plus weekends, I don't think it's that hard, I have no debt, not even a mortgage.
@@j.m.b5441 that is wonderful! I am glad to hear it is working out for you.
Apparently, graduate engineers are also struggling to find jobs. The entry level salaries, considering the amount of hard work we put in, are atrocious!
Yet, just 13 years ago it was very good with BSEs often starting at $70,000 per year. I graduated with a BSCE in 1975. Half of my classmates didn't find a job for two years. I was obligated to the Army but, even then I had to wait 7 months to enter. The economy goes throught cycles. It takes over a decade to make up for when a democrat has been in the oval office. That's when having a trade job as backup helps a lot. Good Luck, Rick
I just graduated with a BS in Mechanical Engineering and I am banging my head at the fact that I didn't do an internship in college because I've applied to over 200 jobs and got rejected or haven't heard back from all of them.
@@joeyGalileoHotto It is a very tough job market right now. Have you looked at government jobs? You will probably have to settle for a lesser job for a while and live at home. Do not give up. Good Luck, Rick
@@richardross7219 Thank you! I have applied as a mechanical engineer for the LA Department of water and power and at San Diego Gas and Electric and I also have an account with USA Jobs and have applied to be a naval architect at NAVSEA from that site; I am working on certifications right now in project management and in solidworks and plan to do a personal project showcasing these skills.
In my opinion, College graduates tend to earn more than people who did not go to college. Yes many people can do very well without a college experience but if you attend college, the odds are in your favor. Also college can broaden your world view.
After high school my son went to work at a truckshop as an apprentice and now 5 years later he has a journeymans as a heavy duty mechanic working at Fort Mcmurry Alberta with full benefits making 100k per yr to start.
Thanks for voicing my opinion & I wasted a lot of time 6+ years to be a nurse only to get my license taken away from the state of CA
my warehouse/transportation job didn't require a degree, but being enrolled played a big part in getting the job. That was late 80's though. Then they had a program that paid for the classes, so finished getting my BS. I realize how lucky I am, been there 36 years...
For context, I went to University, my spouse did not. Both of us landed good jobs.
At first, he made way more than me, but after 5 years in my career, I started making more. His salary floor is higher than mine but his ceiling is also much lower. He has opportunities to get into leadership, but they are more limited than mine, and would require him to stay with the same company. I have more flexibility to move around.
Also - the so-called “extra benefits” of course careers are the same as what you get in colleges lol. We also have professors/instructors who work in our fields, resume and job support, and community lol.
It would be better to have someone who actually experienced college collaborate on this type of video because they could speak to lived experience of college and some of the parts of it that you ignore.
You need to major in something that provides marketable skills. Computer science, nursing, and engineering
Skip the nursing. Recently my husband was in the hospital, and the nurses aids there were starting at $15/hr. Now, they did have a program where they could work, and the hospital would pay for their schooling in nursing, but then you're tied to that employer.
I wish internships were open to recent college grads and even those that graduated several years ago; They are almost always only open to current college students and it sucks becaues they are a great way to get experience without taking on too many projects, because entry-level jobs mean you have to compete with people who do have experience. While I'm not saying that personal responsibility doesn't play a role in this, its often the people who are well networked or have the luxury to do extracurriculars that end up getting those opportunities. It's a catch 22 situation.
The decision is not college or no college. Its - does doing what I want to do for a living require a college degree and if it does, does it pay enough to justify the time and expense of acquiring it. For lawyers doctors and dentists its an easier decision. For other paths not so much. Also its not a "meaningless piece of paper" just because it worked for Nicole or unless you have not done the analysis and take liberal arts or some other general degree like history in an unknown school. Also, if you are very bright, get high grades, and get into the Ivey's like Yale, it's almost always worth it if you have any people skills at all. That will pay dividends. As I have said before, Nicole produces great content but usually only tells one side of the story: her side. PS for a video where I think she nails it - her coverage of the American Healthcare system is near perfect.
Saturation or unsaturation, thats the difference and she mentioned that
@@x-latetv-x6816 I'm Not sure what you mean; please be a bit specific. respectfully, Will
College doesn’t necessarily help you early in your career path, but the degree makes a huge difference later in life. Without the degree, you will acquire promotions up to a limited amount, at which point, the degree kicks in.
I think there was a point where that was true but the data suggests otherwise now.
I think this is absolutely true but only in some fields. There are plenty of industries that just don't care even at higher levels.
This is so true!! There are people working at the same company for decades and not even making that much. In any professional, corporate office job, degrees do matter! They are hiring young kids with degrees and paying them more that the middle aged people who’ve been there 15 years but have no degree and stayed in the same position. I’ve seen it.
I don't think it's about degrees, which is the point of the video. It's about real life skillsets. If you have the skills they will pay you and promote you, no matter your degrees. A degree without skills will never help you get anything.
I've always put degrees on my resume that I never had. No one ever checked. If you can do the job, it doesn't matter.
And plus... Even if you graduated, got the job, you still might waste years of your life with a company that holds you back on purpose. I am facing the sad reality that since 2012 when I graduated until now I barely advanced professionally. Not even close to what I should have. If you are a quiet person who is very productive but stays in your corner, is very very likely you will be ignored and won't get any promotions.
Great video Nicole! I didn't go to college. I was a Jewelry model maker apprentice. I did go to Business school at night and it cost me 7g. I'm glad I did but it would not have made a difference in my career if I never went to that school. College isn't always worth it : )
I got a computer science degree from a local not fancy state college and commuted. Very affordable and great jobs and pay with my degree. Don’t regret it one bit. The problem is going to fancy private colleges or out of state schools for “classics”. Ya, that won’t work unless you’re already rich.
I'm glad I went to an accredited college for my diploma. I work in a unionized, protected profession, in which you NEED to be licensed and have education (namely, a diploma) in order to work. It's not like my employer can hire anyone off the streets to do my job. I get lots of overtime at work because there is a huge shortage of workers in my field, plus health and dental benefits. I'm GLAD I went to postsecondary school. Otherwise, I wouldn't have any job security.
Would you mind sharing what your field is, and has it always been one with a huge shortage of workers? Thanks in advance!
This job came to me at the perfect time therefore, I'm a post-grad and then job hunting for months now. I'm reconsidering a lot and more than likely will have to course correct I really liked your video it was truly helpful.👍👍
For myself and my family, as long as we are doing something productive: work, school, travel, sports, arts
Many colleges around here allow you to audit classes (no credit) for free. So if you take your audit seriously, you can learn more than the paying students. Seriously audit enough classes and you can get a significant monetary discount off your degree.
I got 3 forlift licenses only used a forklift maybe 5 times
This is a great video! I think many of us (maybe too late) are starting to realize a lot of things you mentioned but were sold the idea years ago that going to college was the key to success. I also think people should keep in mind before going to college that outside of the student loan forgiveness programs already on the books, massive student loan forgiveness is not happening. I'm not saying it should or shouldn't happen, but the reality is that most likely, massive student loan forgiveness isn't happening anytime soon. Thanks again!
Europe here, my daughter is now in her last year to become a nurse, bachelor degree... they turned that from 3 years to 4 and the 4th year is almost exclusively just work, it comes very close to slave labour, she just does the shift, there's no extra nurse present to teach her anymore.
In a normal economy this would result in people who are in their third year to be handed a job on a platter, I've seen that happen in IT... but in that sector they managed to make a deal between the hospitals and the schools to squeeze a year of free work from the students...
A lot of colleges did that back in the day. I forgot the term used, but it was where you would go to school one week, then the next week work. Supposedly, you were guaranteed permanent employment upon graduation. The parents complained to the schools when this turned out not to be the case. The schools blamed the employers. Oh, it was the CO-OP program.
Don’t tell us Americans, they’ll turn nursing into a 10 year program to get 7 years of slave labor out of students.
I completely respect your opinion, and for many, this is good advice. However, I did go to a good 4 year university. And that got me into medical school. And now I have been a medical doctor for almost 20 years, making multiple 6 figure salary yearly. Yes, I had massive student loans (especially from medical school. That’s one of the reasons doctors have to make a high salary), but with my student loans now long paid off, I enjoy a very high salary, doing something super interesting, that has a lot of meaning, very challenging, and very rewarding. No college degree….and I wouldn’t have this career. It was a very good investment.
Loved the infomer…uh, I mean the video! 👍
The reason college degrees are useless is because the faculty consists of ancient professional academics, who never had any experience in the work place. I had to go back to school after my employer made my promotion conditional on finishing my bachelors degree (they paid for it, by the way). Oh boy. The professor teaching systems analysis class was at least 70 and the drivel coming out of his mouth was ridiculous. When I pointed out that we use agile development now and not the cascade methodology he was going on about, he just got mad and started calling me names.
I think the issue is more complex than the arguments in the video suggest. Is college overall very expensive? Yes. Are there degrees that don’t advance one’s life financially? Yes. That doesn’t mean the whole thing is a waste.
Without a degree most of my poor friends would have stayed poor. They broke generational poverty by going to college.
My main advice is: take a break from high school to college. Explore possibilities. Maybe you realize you want to be a pilot, or work in the trades. In the meantime, get some job, Save up, travel a little. Go to a community college for credits. Go to college for something that is in high demand and pays decently (you can make money in education, just choose the degree wisely. Anything with tech will do good ). Do a minor in a subject of your interest (languages, art, whatever).
Calculate how much you can earn and how much it will take you to pay off your student loans if you have to take them.
Remember, no professor or degree will guarantee your life. You do that for you.
I think a middle ground is not going to college until you know exactly what for/a degree is required or would greatly help your career. Companies like to say that degrees aren’t required and that equivalent experience is considered but when the market tightens, the degree is the first check mark they add. Even in fields where you factually don’t need one because there’s no governing body, lack of a degree (or relevant degree) can make it nigh on impossible to get in in tougher market conditions (ex computer science right now). That being said, going forward, going to college without gaining experience through internships/jobs is likely a terrible idea.
Go get a trade --- plumbers, electricians, etc. Make $$$$$. I live a few hours north of Toronto, it is so hard to get a trades person out here -- let alone qualified with journey papers.
Several "trades people" up here are self-taught cowboys who make a mess.
Yes, in southeastern BC trades are in demand and they charge what they like, work when they like and take time off when they like.
@@mardy_s if they show up at all.
Those self-taught, learned in their family growing up, can be very good but some... eh, not so. I've seen supposedly good carpenters try to lift pre-built wall sections with obviously horrible rigging and sure enough, ruined two or three of them trying to hoist them from the truck to by the foundation. I guess I learned plenty from watching "rigging fail" and "crane fail" YT videos!
Everyone can't be trades people. Not every is inclined for that sort of work. Just like every shouldn't go to college. Many ppl don't have the brain power to get high paying jobs. Facts of life
so who will work at restaurant, hotels, bars ect. if we all become plumbers, the issue is the cost of living is too high not our jobs, government printing paper and taxing us up the wazzu
Hi Nicole. I'm probably one of last people in the US to have a degree that eventually helped me into a strong, good-paying career... and I needed a Ph.D. to kick-start it. Going to grad school and getting into major debt was a huge gamble, but since I did it in the late 1990's, it was a reasonably sensible gamble. In 2024, I'm 100% on your side. Have you investigated the Open Skills Network? They're trying to solve the same problem as your sponsor for this video, but from a much broader angle, helping companies figure out how to do skills-based hiring right as opposed to helping people get skills-based jobs.
Thanks according to Nicole is an awesome show 😊
Back in 2001 I graduated and said it was a piece of paper but my mom was so proud of me after being pushed to do it my whole life. I had a scholarship and college fund so didnt take out debt but that degree was pretty much worthless in getting a job. I really feel I would have done better had I not went to college as I didnt learn anything of substance. I retired at 38 but attribute less than 1% was because I went to college.
Absolutely yes you would open a Starbucks next to three other coffee shops, its called the Nash Equilibrium.
Good video. I am an old geezer and have three siblings. My sister and I went to college and got advanced degrees in our fields. We went at a time when we were able to work our ways through school. My debt after college was 8 years with the Army Reserves. I retired comfortably because I am frugal. My two brothers went into trades and retired as multimillionaires. My sister married a doctor and retired very comfortably. The point is that working trades is physically hard but can be a very profitable. For young men these days, the construction trades are a smart choice. I was a Civil Engineer with a professional license. On my last big job, I was talking to the Operating Engineer Union Representative. He made the same hourly wage as I did but, he had much better benefits. Keep teaching people Nicole. Good Luck, Rick
So how can I, a nerdy arts and science oriented intellectual past 60 yr old, land a job in the trades? I still have a healthy body with plenty of room for ruin!
@@DrunkenUFOPilot Sorry, but I don't know. I was forced to retire at 59 which turned out to be great. You might find work because many places are short of workers. The trades are tough for us older guys. Good Luck, Rick
I went to Penn State University in the early to mid-seventies. I was able to get a loan (around $1,500) and my parents footed the rest of the bill. Though the cost of my stay would sound like snowflakes falling compared to today, I remember attending a protest in front of the president's house because tuition was to be increased around fifty or so bucks a term. I admit that the education I got there didn't prepare to make any kind of killing afterwards; my minor was in Photography but with that I was able to get a position in a photography lab (remember those?) after I graduated. No big money, of course, but it helped pay for all my expenses way, way, way, way back then.
The best thing that P.S.U. gave me was a chance to get away from my parent's house. I was, for the first time, relatively, on my own; an experience that I most definitely needed.
I also think it shows a certain level of maturity and dedication for anyone (particularly young people fresh from high school) to follow through and complete a degree, then or now. I knew a lot of smart kids in high school who went to college for 1-2 yrs and quit, not because they found a more lucrative career path or some other legitimate reason...just because they were tired of going to class and decided to give up. I am proud to have completed what I started, even though I'm not sure I would take that path if I were a young person NOW because it was actually pretty affordable to attend a state university in the 90s (graduated 2000). It's definitely changed.
Thanks Jay - I so agree!
University was intended to be for the small fraction of the population who wanted to explore the bleeding edge of current knowledge in whatever field. you were passionate about. First you had to learn how to study, and then get up to speed on the subject material and then follow the professor who was the leading edge in the field. Getting a corporate job was a secondary result of what you spent the time studying. Trying to do post secondary for everyone has never made sense.
If you think the job market is bad for college graduates it’s way worse for people that didn’t go to college.
as i am watching this video i get a call from a company i applied to.. fingers crossed i get the position!
You are 100% on point
Totally agree, and most people should follow this advice in todays world, the college education system is dying, and will collapse under it's own weight at some point (no doubt a bailout of some kind will be proposed). The quality and abundance of information online now means that college is pointless except for a few careers where it makes more sense, doctors etc. I never went to college, and instead started at the bottom and worked my way up, I'm now a senior developer for a financial firm earning a good wage. I have no debt, and lots of cash/investments. I would not be where I am now if I had gone to college. If I was young right now I would go into construction / building work. Very hard to replace with AI and in high demand right now, pay is also pretty good with the option to start your own business and flip houses later on etc.
Depends on what you want to do. If you need a license for your profession, you need the degree first. Get a degree in something you want to do and are jobs there for it (or start your own business). Education is a tool-if you know how to use it correctly, it can help you a lot.
I totally agree with this video content.
SOLD! Thats a hella bargain right there. Thank you so much
I'm rooting for you.
Dropped out of community college. Started working as a civil service EMT at 19. Firefighter now for the same city making $165,000 a year with pension, fully funded 401 and 457 along with lifelong health benefits for my entire family. Oh and i can retire in 7 years if i choose to at 42 years old.
I’m doing an online bachelors degree now that gets 75% funded by my employer as well. Only cost me around $800 semester.
Thanks Nicole.
I got a 2 year trade degree over 20 years ago. Worked a pile of jobs, many professional.
No, not really making all that much money all these years later. In fact, been unemployed for over a year and depressed. In all that time and all those jobs, fired 8 times, laid of 5 times and quit a few. Finding out I was the lowest paid person in the departments at most of the places I worked, is not a motivator. Certainly I put in effort and tried hard, and did my best, and served them well. Every time. Life sucks, is unfair, doesn't make sense, and doesn't care about you. And yes, when you've worked that many places, you have to MOVE MOVE MOVE MOVE MOVE MOVE. That gets super old too. How many friends to I have? One. And not even in the same state. They talk about networking with people? Yeah that's a load of poo. People don't give a flying rip about you.
I've taught mainly in the college prep private sector ("high school" here in the States) from San Diego to Seattle to Philly since 2000 and at three universities. I have seen so many kids focus on the "big names" of the schools rather than what they want to learn when they go to college. I have also seen parents push these kids into aiming for colleges that are bad fits for them. My College counselor colleagues at the schools I have taught at have shared with me horrible, nightmarish stories about the parents driving the decisions. Then, we find out they drop out before their first year away from home. Not all, of course, but it happens a lot. And when I hear kids convincing their parents that they want a gap year to learn more about the "why" (regarding spending four years in college), they achieve so much more success. Not everyone needs a degree! I want my doctors, bridge builders, educators, and city planners (and others) to have their degrees. I don't need my local waiter to have his or her history or English degrees. Of course, not all my colleagues agree with me. But I won't stay silent!
While I do agree with some of your points, it’s also very company dependent. I have had multiple friends who worked from a young age, never went to college, and whose opportunities for promotion have been stifled by not having a degree. There are definitely companies that require it that are well outside the usual medical/legal/scientific circles. Is the juice worth the squeeze? It can be, but that’s a personal choice.
I totally agree with you but in the uk it’s still the case that many companies still won’t look at you unless you have a degree. One of the problems is a lot of these jobs don’t actually need a degree, it’s just the company make it so. Mine is one of those.
If you are currently in university in an over saturated area get a student job that is adjacent to your field or, if possible, in your field. Look at your university job ads. Your future life may depend on it. If you can be a nepo baby, cousin, sibling (rich or not), do it. Otherwise you better be a savant.
I am a semi retired aerospace sales engineer. After 4 year in Air Force, graduated with a reliability engineering degree with A+P license, worked for the airlines, and got into technical sales in 99, Air Force paid for most of my college. You have to choose a degree that's relevant
What they don't tell you about college is actually that when you try to go to college you are actually taking a risk you are not legally obligated to a job when you complete your classes. I took a welding class cause at least welding was in high demand but the issue was even when i was the best in class with the best grades etc i wasn't actually taught how to do anything besides how to pass a test and most of the jobs around this area are manufacturing jobs that only wanted experienced people. So i went to a temp agency to get a job and that made getting experience way easier and if i had known that all i had to do is go to a temp agency and just get a job vs doing over a years worth of work and payments for classes and that not helping my situation at all i likely wouldn't have gone to college.
I agree with your thesis that college is oversold and often unnecessary. In my opinion, the only reason to attend college is to get an education. Also, it should be mentioned that some of the debt reflected in student borrowing comes from borrowing for lifestyle expenses. That being things like luxury accommodations and summer travel and not having to work a part time job. In other words, they borrow rather than sacrifice.
It depends on what school you go to. I have a business degree and it did not cost a lot to get. I was able to get a good job from it and the employer paid for my CPA designation. Also, I had the small debt paid off in a short time and now make way more money in the accounting field than if I didn’t have a degree.
I sent the link to my daughter. Thank you!
Hopefully, she won't listen to you both.
@coockiekat don't worry, she has a degree already. Continuing to learn in additional areas makes her chances at a higher salary possible.
This young lady is absolutely remarkable. She was able to obtain a home in one of the most HCOL cities in the world, on a single income, at a young age. Fantastic achievement. Congratulations.
Has anyone else had this problem? First, you hear you’re too young … you have no experience. But you’re enthusiastic and want to find a job that will give you money so you can find your independents, especially from your parents. Then, you go through all the hassles of finding your independents and yourself. Learn as much as you can. During that time you go to schools that will help you achieve what you’re looking for. You struggle for years to pay off your debt. Later on, you find a job that matches your wants and needs. Just to hear…”you’re too experienced, we can’t pay you for what you are worth” JUST SHOOT ME!
As a college dropout myself, my advice is go to college or university if you want to go into a profession that requires you to go into higher education to gain the qualifications, but don't go if you don't know what you want to do with your life or don't go just for the sake of it
I still value my degree but I respect your opinion.
Every case is different, we still need college degrees, but in general, it's not a good path. Nowadays,
@@j.m.b5441 Totally respect anyone who doesn’t wish to attend college.
I want my doctors, bridge builders, educators, and city planners (and others) to have their degrees. I don't need my local waiter to have his or her history or English degrees.
@@j.m.b5441 it depends on the degree - most are getting degrees in some useless major ( ie anything ending in xxx studies)
In her partial defense, her target audience are people who have or will have useless degrees like Medieval French Lesbian Literature degrees. Those people need alot of help to make it through life.
We are homeschooling our 6 year old...I am planning to have her watch your videos in the future when she's a bit older! I have a Bachelor's in Marketing and for me perrsonally...I haven't used anything from what I learned in University in my actual career.
You speak amazingly well I might add.
it all matters what you go to collage for
I would be the first to say that my college degree did nothing to help me get a job. However, it has added a lot to my quality of life. Going to college is worth it if your family can afford it, and you can graduate without student loans. Alternatively, you can join the military and the government will pay for your education, but do not drown in student loans for a nonsense degree in basket weaving. College is not worth it if you have to get student loans: you will probably never catch up.
Mike Rowe has been harping on this subject for years already. When I was learning my trade I was paid full wages for going to school. I’m still working in the same trade 50 years later even though I don’t have to.
I think the reason why you believe college isn’t necessary is because a lot of people get these useless degrees. I know someone who has a degree in marine biology and she’s a barista. But it will make a difference if you get a degree in something that’s needed: eg: engineering, law, computer science.
You also made no mention of trades. In some trades you actually get paid while you learn. I have an electronics ticket and it has served me well. After all, this wonderful technology that many of us take for granted needs people who can fix these things when they go on the blink.
I was not mature enough at 18 to start a real career. I’m glad I was able to go to college to have a few more years to mature. Yes, my bank account would be higher if I had skipped college, but I took some very interesting classes that really molded me and sparked passions that I have to this day that I wouldn’t have if I was grinding away at some job instead. University should be free so everyone can have that opportunity.
Got a BFA -- took a long time to get it- but paid out of pocket working full time though. Only owe about 2k now.
Unless you or your family have connections college is just hammering out a slave collar of debt that will weigh you down for life.
My degree didn’t do me any good through most of my career because it wasn’t required for the job I ended up in. However, later in my career they started getting a little more picky and requiring people to have a degree to even get in the field and those of us with a degree ended up with a 10% bump in pay over those that didn’t have degrees so that’s the only way that it paid off, 10%. I guess it was worth it because I didn’t take out student loans. I worked full-time and went to school at night which I don’t know if that’s possible anymore for people?
lmao, the ad in the middle of this video starts up going "Everyone wonders if a degree is really worth it," then goes on to advertise for a university.
Slays me when SU sends me mail begging for money so they can pay their football coach $4,000,000 annually.
Good morning. I'm glad l went to university because l made contacts I still use to this day. A former classmate was my reference for my new job. Another was my guarantor for my Canadian passport application. Connections matter. It's not just about the classes and the degree.
I agree with this. I also think there are a lot of social situations where various "general knowledge" topics are referenced, and in many cases having a solid post-secondary education will have exposed you to these which just creates a well-rounded person. Yes, there are absolutely people with no schooling beyond high school who can still hold their own in such conversations. Nicole comes to mind as such a person who would... but I think it's advantageous for many. Silly example but when watching Jeopardy my husband and I always realize we know so much of the "useless" trivia due to college. My mom's super smart and always had good jobs but she's never heard of a lot of the stuff they reference.
@@seltzermint5 Nicole's view here is very limited and every time she speaks on this topic I somehow think she would have benefitted from a degree with a strong critical thinking component at a good university.
I have two tech diplomas (all paid for) and I take supplemental training (certificates, etc.) Everything you say is true.
Education is a tool, you shouldn’t buy an expensive, precision milling machine if all you need is a hammer!
100% agree. I got a Masters degree (and double Bachelors), studying in 3 countries mind you (France, UK, US) so I was perfectly bilingual, only to not be able to find a single f***** job in my field in the US (adding to it the difficulty of getting a work visa). I moved to Canada and had to work almost 3 years at minimum wages as a marketing assistant to finally have relevant experience on my resume, while taking online classes nonstop to learn actual technical skills my degree didn't teach me. After that it was another 2 years at a slightly better job (but still massively underpaid) at a start-up, to finally get off the tranches. Now after 10 years I earn a good salary in marketing, but starting my career took so much effort it's insane.
Besides nursing, dental hygienist is another lucrative, worthwhile college degree worth pursuing.
You get a lot of “bang for the buck” there. Loans aren’t a big factor when you’re making a pant load of cash and you have options/flexibilty.
It's because we were told education was the most important asset. There's a whole trope around saving up for the kids' college education.
People who weren't cut out for college and actually kinda jealous back then feel superior now, congrats. But what if all that self employment spiel that's been going on on social media just ends in a bubble, too, say 20 years down the line? We already have a gig economy. The academic's gender studies are the entrepreneur's uber drivers or craigslist flippers. If a company can't compete in the market it vanishes. Good luck Harry, you're a company now.
It isn't universities' primary, or even secondary role to help you to get a job - some courses might enable you to _do_ a job, but that's a different thing. Universities are places that exist to find stuff out and teach people about it - they aren't trade schools, and shouldn't be made to be.
_If_ you think the inherent interest of studying ancient Middle Eastern languages for three or four years is worth the cost and you're willing to take your chances financially when you've finished - I'd say do that course, on the understanding that it might not help you in the job market afterwards. Your pick.
@@notreallydavid I actually agree with you but the problem is, this dogma that getting a good job is dependent on a 4 year Bachelors degree has reduced colleges to job mills. I disagree that no one should go to college but I also disagree with pushing everyone into college. That doesn’t mean a high school diploma is enough on its own but there are alternatives for people who only care about getting a job and don’t really like academics
I watched this video like 5 times now cuz it’s such a truthnuke
Great video! Just be careful as so many are so cynical,these days that the tie in at the end may read as though the whole video was just a giant infomercial, even if it wasn’t meant to be. This is often hard to avoid when creators are generally so excited by a sponsored partner because so, so many other creators care only about the $. Just be careful.
College should not be thought of as a place to further your career goals.
Rather college is a place to learn how to think.
The ability to think on your own will take you way places than anything you will learn towards a specific career.
Perhaps if there were more open minded, deep thinkers out there, we wouldn’t be in the situation we find ourselves in right now.
I have two MPhils - UK mini-PhDs - and I'm scratching around for low paid fixed-term research admin / health admin jobs, and I'm perpetually too broke to move, so I can't chase the university research jobs I want to do.
If I hadn't fulfilled my research compulsion by doing the postgrad degrees I'd've gated myself and been really pissed off - but being stuck is unenjoyable. Am bekatedly looking at other sources of income.