Sorry this is so late! Let me know your thoughts on the season finale & what I had to say! *Leave a like on the video if you enjoyed it, thank you so much! :)*
Sir, as an author you piqued my interest. What version of Green Arrow would you want to see? Who would you choose to be the Director? And lastly who would be your Oliver/Green Arrow? You could mine this concept when the news is slow, Boba'sFlicks? Anyway, great review as always.
@@randall-thehorrorwriter Intersting that you specified author when this video could pique your interest in general. Not like its a screenwriting video lol
I loved this finale (and the series as a whole) and didn’t find it “rushed” at all. After all, in James Gunn’s DCU the events of each project can carry over to the others - meaning that any questions we have now can be answered in the next movie/TV show. I don’t care if Flagg’s recovery isn’t seen until Superman or Peacemaker 2. 🤷🏾♂
Wow, Just wow. That ending was really crazy. Nina was so innocent and for it to end like that for her is very sad. Can’t wait to see what they do in season 2 tho.
Dr Frankenstein was not a good dude, the Bride was mentally a child. True she had adult hormones, but it was still at the time predatory. Even if she doesn’t view it that way.
The moment Weasel bites Phosphorus's arm reveals a deeper connection to his humanity, as his eyes briefly shift back to their original weasel form. This change hints at something inherently human within him, especially as he recalls a little girl in the princess and instinctively tries to warn her. However, the pain from the bite pulls him back into his primal state, dimming his eyes. This duality in Weasel's behavior intrigues me, making me eager to learn more about his backstory.
@@kevz2474 Glad to know mate!! Just know that you're not alone. I know it sounds stupid but if you want an email address of someone to talk to, just let me know. It sounds crazy, but having gone through a rough patch before myself, I oddly found it easier talking to and opening up to a complete stranger than having to show those closest to me my true feelings. I know that sounds bad but I needed to appear strong for my sisters because they were falling apart. And it helps when it doesn't have to be someone face to face. You can maybe talk about stuff that's hard to with someone staring right back at you. Anyway, keep your chin up and rememer how much your Mum loved you. She might not have been well, but I bet she really appreciated you looking after her in her final days. Sorry if I rambled, but your story got me. You have a good soul my friend!!🙏
I swear, dr mizursky is a great dad honestly, i just wish each episode was 30 minutes at least, i dont get much time to be with the characters which is unfortunate. I need season 2 now
He’s a good dad with good intentions but dude it is so irresponsible to just throw her into school like that. I get you want her to socialize but there HAS to be some way to dip her toes in before chucking her in the deep end (yes pun intended). Let her tutor a blind kid. Set up a play date with a neighbor where the parents supervise, these are teenagers. Best case she’s relentlessly bullied, worst case the kids form an angry mob
@pianist150 truly that's why it was so emotional and heartbreaking, it felt to me that it was the mom's place to set those boundaries but she left and who knows how painful it was for him, like I could see this as a short movie it was gut wrenching watching their backstories really and I just loved Nina, but yeah honestly it would've been so much better if it was longer or even let go some of the present time plot for the flashbacks.
@ Nina’s death hit the hardest for me because she never got anything. No badass moments, no vengeance for her father, no reciprocated connection from The Bride until it was too late, she just got bossed around and mistreated and then she died
It sucks it is common good people get screwed by bad people, and morons like the fkn cop. In that sense, I can understand that happening to them, but still sad for these type of characters could never have a break.
I personally enjoyed the vagueness of the “reasoning behind the Princess being a villain”. I think the only way to really explain why and how she would eventually start WWIII could only being explained through more future visions, since it most likely takes multiple years for the events to transpire leading to her fall into villainy, her collaboration with Grodd, and so forth. Leaving it unexplained kinda has an “I guess we’ll never know” vibe to it, which I think is fitting for the show since it’s a smaller project than something like Superman, which will definitely hold more canonical consequence.
But surely she had to be evil and definitely up to something in present day?? Or why would she have been going for her gun at the end. Or even trying to cover up everything with Clayface. She was currently up to something or had to have at least known what she was gonna do in the future.
@SchecterIsKING I assume she already had the goal of world domination, and was waiting til she was in power to attack other countries. It is vague but we can tell she was pretty psychotic.
We really don't need to know that much tbf. She had always been evil and was conspiring a WW3 and she doesn't need a reason for it aside from her being power hungry.
I don’t think the episode was rushed but I think there were missing elements but with it being renewed for season 2 I wonder if they deal with the ramifications of the bride killing illana next season or something trickles down into Superman since we know there’s conflict going on elsewhere. As for Rick Flagg maybe when we meet up with him in Superman he’s waking up or getting back into work after the coma
Man shocked at what happened to Nina. Also I wasn’t expecting new characters this quick I thought the season one cast was gonna be series regulars but cool the team just like all others are being expanded. Do you think it’s gonna be a new team lineup every season?
Did anyone notice that Ilana was signing off on some documents right before the Bride shot her? Is there any significance to showing us the signature? Maybe she was authorizing some conflict that we'll see in Superman this summer?
I tried my darnest but it is pure gibberish, a mixture between German, Russian and Serbian cyrillic. Which gives more indication that Pokolistan has its own unique language derived from surrounding nations.
@@SilhouettedAnimator thank you for the effort, kind stranger! It's pretty cool to have this level of detail in the show, down to text on a computer screen, either way. Gives the episode lots of re-watch potential!
Great thought. Maybe it could be some kind of succession ruling since she is (presumably) the last of the royal bloodline. Not sure if that’s it, but it regardless seems significant.
Also, they showed a Mummy looking guy at the end when ye new team was assembled. If it is Khalis, he's ressurected Nina in the comics before. It might have been during Flashpoint: Frankenstein and the Creatures of the Unknown #1 but I'm not sure on that.
@@Coconut_PrrsonI hope that in the DCU it is like the comics whereas it has a ton of fakeout deaths and resurrections to the point it gets a bit old after awhile
I enjoyed this episode but wish we had another one. It did feel kinda abrupt. Nina’s and her dad’s story was heartbreaking to say the least. I thought it was strange no one heard the Bride’s gun tbh. Interested to see what season 2 will bring
I love marvel and DC But I can’t lie.. marvel could never go this far with their characters 😭 James Gunn is on a whole another level with not giving a damn about what he does Which made the show entertaining
I just finished the series and yeah I totally agree with you😂. Not only does the show hit you in the feels really good, but that ending could have given us a little bit more to feel more closure! It definitely was rushed and I guess they're just hoping for you to anticipate a refresher on season 2 but they could have at least given us one more episode of flush this out. Even Harley Quinn/ Suicide Squad isekai felt more fleshed out than this!
I actually didn't mind the lack of explanation of the princesses motivation very much, I think a huge part of world building isn't just things we know, it's also things we don't know if that makes sense. Think of something like Star wars I believe one of the reasons it's so immersive is because some things are just hinted at in the dialogue and now people are still talking about those things 10, 20 years later wondering what it meant or implies.
About Wallers phone call instead of shocking them: In her defense Boba, she has no idea what stage of the mission they are at. They could be about to kill Alana, they could've already done it, they could've been in process of fighting soilders and making there way to kill her but either way...CALLING the general was the best solution so if NOTHING ELSE, he is aware that they were tricked by a witch If the commandos are shocked before they complete there mission or even after it solves nothing and waller has no idea what's going on, but if she calls it at least shows that "hey we were tricked so don't go to war with us over this" Not to mention again, if she shocks the commandos and they are killed in action thanks to her shocking them so they can't move then she loses a good team of monsters
Was planning to argue this exact point, but you said it much better! 👏🏾Shocking the CC’s in the middle of their mission could have led to them all being killed by the soldiers, versus the path Waller ultimately took.
The fact that they were able to give humanity to this crazy crew was amazing. So sad seeing Nina go out the way she did but the show makes me so excited for what’s to come with James Gunn and the DCU.
I wonder if we’ll learn more about the princess’ connection to Grod and Clayface in the next season. Can there still be someone or some organization that the princess was working with who still has plans to rule the world?
2:45 When they said about that they weren't the only monster guest the Princess had lately, I thought they were talking about Eric because he busts through the window right as they said that. But as soon as I saw the Princesses eyes as she murdered Nina, I knew she was truly a "monster" and not as innocent as she let on. Also, the way she insisted on going for her swim even though Sergei warned her it was too dangerous, was a red flag. She was too care free for an innocent Princess that had a threat on her life. Subverted my expectations greatly though as I didn't see Clayface being one on the moniter coming. Hope Clayface isn't really dead though. So man cool stories for him in Batmans world going forward. Great show.
We’re getting a Clayface film with Mike Flanagan directing, so there’s no way he’s dead; not that it couldn’t be a prequel, but to what? The very bare bit of character we got for him? At least if GI Robot hadn’t been rebuilt, there was enough for him to justify appearing in the St. Rock movie…
She didn’t want to destroy the world, she wanted to rule it with an iron fist as her nation has access to some kind of advance technology similar to wakanda
I haven't seen the finale yet, but, this is obviously the better worded explanation. What good would "destroying the world" be to anyone? I guess if you wanted to commit the biggest mass murder-suicide of all time, but...who would even know? I feel like a *lot* of this season was cut for one reason or another. I love all the characters - except for the princess, who's mostly worthless in current day - but, the story is pretty damn weak. I feel like current day (the story of this season) was a very small part of the show and just an excuse to tell the backstories. Also, 7 episodes? 7 is my favorite number and that infuriates me. Not 10 episodes. Not 8 episodes (like HBO does a lot for some ridiculous reason). 7 22-28 minute episodes. Maybe, just maybe, more could have been explained if there was an 8th episode to wrap everything up.
Overall good series. Personally eps 3 and 4 were my favorite I wish there was a little more focus or movement on the main plot through the whole series but I really enjoyed it! Onto Superman!!
We are so used to media where, at the end up the day, all the mysteries are wrapped up with a little bow and set on the table in front of us to coo over. Maybe it's ok for there to be one or two mysteries in our fantasy. Tho I think Gunn will bow to pressure and explain it all
if the kingdom makes a deal with ghoul, she could be put in the lazarus pit and come back, crazier and more dangerous. Maybe even use frankenstein to revive her somehow
The only thing I can guess is that since the Princess was shown to be working with Grodd in the vision we might learn more about this plan down the road. She might be a two dimensional villain, but she might also be a tool for Grodd. Does that make it any more satisfying, I dunno.
I know S2 is quite a while away considering Gunn wrapped Superman and peacemaker S2 but when we do get S2 which it was confirmed a while back it’s getting more seasons what things you want to see in season 2 boba?
I think the point was to leave Ilana's motivation a mystery. At least that is what I felt while watching. My guess is that we may get answers in SUPERMAN or Peacemaker.
CC would have benefitted from an 8th episode. One final flashback montage showing us the Princess' history and why she was plotting to do what she did in Circe's vision. But you can see Gunn is keeping that card very close to his chest for some reason. Likely due to some kind of greater DCU Thanos-level threat type of implications. But yeah, to give us nothing, not even an admission from the princess that she is an evil psychopath before she gets shot is kinda weak.
The only thing I feel is a strench is why is clayface just hanging out in her apartment, like if your plan was to undermine Circe's plan, it's only undermined if they know McPherson is dead and in the meantime you're just hoping Rick or someone can figure it out before you get assassinated.
It kinda felt like one of those “webisodes” they used to do, like behind the scenes filler for the main series. I did enjoy it overall, but the story was lacking and the main point of the show was to introduce the characters, because that was the strongest aspect of the show.
I totally get you on the princess thing. But honestly, that twist was perfect! Showing that seemingly perfect beauty as the real monster? Like when the princess was stabbing, Nina. That part was terrifying! I think the whole show could've used more time, that's my only real complaint. I wanted more, but I loved every episode, especially the flashbacks. They were all brutal or heartbreaking, Nina's hit me the hardest. Is James Gunn calling the whole DCU's first chapter "Gods and Monsters"? It sounds like tragic monster stories and messed-up humans being the real monsters will be a big deal. He's looking at stuff like *Swamp Thing*, and I heard something about Deadman, though I don't know much about him. I'm so hyped to see what happens next!
I’ve watched many reviews and Easter egg breakdowns and no one has mentioned the Creature from the Black Lagoon reference. When Ilana was swimming and Nina was mirroring her just like the creature was mirroring Kay. Also we didn’t find out what was going on with the Queen, was she just that old or was Llana doing something to her which seems probable. I believe we haven’t seen the last of Nina because except for the Waynes, no one stays dead in DC Comics. ( Jason, Superboy Prime, Joker, etc.)
So sad that Nina is gone. She was one of, if not the most likeable character in the entire show and she had such a tragic backstory (her, Phosphorous, and Weasel were the most heartbreaking). On the flip side, I'm happy they brought back my boy G.I. Robot! Him and Dr. Phosphorous are my overall favorites. Looking forward to seeing King Shark with the team in season 2 whenever that comes.
It’s crazy how portrayed humans as bigger monsters than other different characters in other media like X-Men, Attack on Titan and other things like that. Good written story.
I hope that in S2 they explore some of the parts not explained in this episode. I wonder if the princess was mind control by Grod? I guess will find out, I hope.
It seems like everyone is in the wrong for Nina's death. The government for capturing her and sending her to Belle Reeve which leads her into getting on The Suicide Squad, The Bride, and Phosphorous for peer pressuring into killing the Princess, Weasel for blowing their cover, and the princess. The Bride could've definitely just waited for the princess to get out of the water or just waited for to sit still in the water and sniped her. Also in The Suicide Squad they had comms in their ears. I don't know why she called the palace instead of talking directly in her ear.
i think they probably lost the comms at some point during their chase around pokolistan, or maybe they got damaged in the skirmish? i get what u mean though
Just some thoughts. One, I had no issue with the Princess going on a swim, because I felt that was a reflection of her arrogance in the knowledge that she was playing puppet master and had become overly confident. Two, I wonder if the backstory of why the Princess was trying to do what she was is something they plan to reveal in season two. Three, I know many might find it lame, but I would love it if Nina actually lives somehow. It seems such a shame not to see her true power. I might be misremembering, but I could have swore there was some hint somewhere about how powerful she actually is or could be.
The thing about the princess' motives being underdeveloped is this whole show is about supposed villains who to varying degrees arent that bad or at least have a reason for being the way they are. The princess just being evil was a balance to that. Sometimes bad guys are just bad.
I get some people need to have the villain motivation, but this show was more structured toward the character-driven storytelling. But Gunn also said it's just an aperitif, so the world-building was the most important part of the series, imo. and they part was done quite well and never felt forced.
Good series. Definitely felt rushed as far as the main Plot in the Finale. Gunn definitely should added more episodes or increased the length. I mean 23-25 Mins per episode. Look at Caped Crusader or Invincible. 8 Episodes each at about an Hr in length. No drop off in Pace or Storytelling or Arrow style “Flashbacks” for the Character origins
I think Waller didn't shock the commandoes because their screams would give away their position. And it wasn't posible for Waller to know where the creatures were at the time, or how their mission was going. Waller didn't want to start a war, but she also wants to keep her assets (Taskforce M) alive for future missions.
I don’t think that Ilana will stay dead. Does anyone else remember that ointment goo that the old lady rubbed on Frankenstein in his flashbacks? To me it seemed very similar to the stuff that turns Clayface into Clayface, and we’ve already seen him working with Ilana. I think she may have some clay powers too from that stuff, and that she’ll be the villain in Season 2, where they’ll go more into her motivations and schemes.
One theory for how they could do the Eric story line is time travel. Now obviously that can be annoying and overused and continuity ruining, but if done right, make a scene very cool and interesting that could lead to many other stories. What if in the first episode of season 2, Eric finds the bride. After a jump cut of sorts, he has finally found her. They do their thing and duke it out. But depending on their surroundings, meaning the context of the episode, what if they somehow get themselves to travel back in time a certain amount of time. The bride and Eric still fighting as that happens. During them traveling back we could see cool scenes through the history of DC lore. And eventually the bride gets the upper hand (both of them are, at this point, very far back in time) and somehow gets eric in a solitary state (headless, frozen etc). The bride gets back to present time while leaving Eric in the distant past, only for him to eventually come back later on and try to get his revenge and unleash all his pent up hatred he would have after being left behind by the bride all those years in a state where he could do nothing but watch the world go by. One error I can see in that theory would be Eric trying to source out help to get back to the present day, or getting help from his creator and potentially making it so that the bride never existed. They could use some device that Waller had locked away or while on some mission/trip they inadvertently run into someone with that power/ability to help them get to the past. Both for how they got there in the first place and how the bride leaves and eventually Eric leaves.
I'm pretty sure the lack of closure in each characters will be answered in the next season or in the upcoming series that they lead to. Like PM s2, or GL series, or CC s2. They prolly dont wanna answer everything in s1. They wanna leave a story for the new team
@@JacianGonzalez quote from Google so take it with a grain of salt "Clayface is a legacy name used by several Batman Villains, like Basil Karlo, Matt Hagen, Preston Payne, Sondra Fuller, Cassius Payne, and Peter Malley. Each of them has powers that involve a malleable clay-like body structure and were patients at Arkham Asylum at some point."
yeah i agree with you here 27:48, i have been enjoying this show, been feeling like it's a good-might even say great-show, but with this last episode my feelings have changed, it was just an okay show 🤷🏾♂️
i think we were left with questions on purpose. i think the princess being a one dimensional villain was on purpose to leave us wondering why and how, i think season 2 will give more answers on how she got to know clayface and how grodd would have been involved
I agree with all your points. I wish we got more backstory on why the princess wanted to take over to begin with, although I understand this will (hopefully) be explored in season 2. The show needed longer episodes, at least 30 mins. I did love the show but it felt a bit sloppy unfortunately
Clay face was only down for like a day or two. Its not been that long since he fought Rick. Its also why Rick is still down as well, this was all over the span of a week or less. No one has had time to really heal
They must have seen numbers early and green lit season 2 so I'm assuming it'll be part of that or flashbacks that were actually part of S1..... hopefully
They couldn't delve into alot of Ilana Rostovic plans as the events hadn't taken place yet as it was a glimpse into the future. Think it was more a case of taking over the world rather than setting out to destroy it. The bride laid out her true character before killing her I found that explanation enough.
If Waller used the remote, she would have no idea on what situation they would be in. If they were mid fight or something, she could've gotten them all killed, or discovered (which also might have gotten them killed) if Nina was in the water already, and they use the shock, that could've shocked the princess as well. What is dumb imo, is why she doesn't have direct comms to everyone on the team. That would've made more sense, and you can play up the sequence the same way, just have Waller started to speak as soon the Princess takes the knife, but it was too late.
This final episode is heartbreaking and yet a neat ending to the first season of creature commandos. I would agree to see why the princess wants to take over the world. As for my thoughts on the next season of creature commandos, will the bride be thinking about Nina? Would Dr. Phosphorus will ever touch a woman again? Will the Weasel be proven innocent from the murder charges on the children or will Nina be brought back to life?
I think the show takes place after Superman. It explains Flag's mostly white hair, and James Gunn has already explicitly stated that the timeline would not be linear (comparing it to Star Wars). It also would allow Clayface to actually be dead without causing any issues with the upcoming film. I don't think there are any discrepancies in the theory (assuming Economos is permanently crippled from that gnarly injury).
Princess Alana’s villain story feels like the main villain from the film called neighbour it’s a prime and Lionsgate film and the main villain has no backstory but she goes around killing people because she finds it fun and entertaining and the main villain has no backstory why she kills people and who trained her up for it
Just realised something here.Bride wasn't sure, if theory about Rostovik hiring Clayface was correct, so she decided to provoke her and observe the reaction.
Wild guess here, but I feel like at sime point will see Gorilla Grodd in something & he'll explain how the princess was a pawn for her resources, or mind controlled? Or it couldve been a way for them to get across the Bride's point of I dont care about anything except Nina.
The fact that The Princess hired a shapeshifter, but let him walk into her castle in his monster form is ridiculous to me. He should've been disguised as a human, maybe one of the Amethyst Knights or something like that. I'm also not a fan of how both Rupert Thorne and Clayface died by the end of the series, they had so much potential to be featured in the Batman movies of the DCU.
I think the villains r together I think the light is in the mix and they outed circe for something she did and she went after the princes cuz of whatever oil they had the light might have sum use for it. The light is from young justice fir those who dont know
The ending was extremely rushed and left a lot to be desired. Why was Nina admitted to Belle Reve, a maximum security prison, when she was never accused of doing anything of the others? Why was The Bride so eager, and even happy, to work with Waller after her botched mission caused the death of her only friend? One of the major reasons she despises Eric is the fact he killed Frankenstein, so Gunn didn't even keep his own parallelism The Princess' death is glossed over as if her security detail wouldn't have noticed the Princess dead minutes after the commandos left and blamed Waller as they made their way back to home base What the hell was Grodd doing in the vision? That was never expanded upon, and it's a shame that we have to wait at least 6 months for ANY kind of conclusion to the cameo fest that was in the show It was such a ball drop of quality from the previous 6 episodes
I thought it was great to depict a mother who is like that. People only want positive representation but the world is filled with such mothers and everyone pretends they don't exist. and btw such a heartwarming performance by the father.
I loved Nina's backstory and her death really got me but as a finale it felt like it was lacking, as soon as the episode ended I went straight to Google to see if it really was the finale it felt like it needed at least one more episode, like I don't get what Ilana wanted to end the world for or how she met Clayface, it just felt like another episode and not like a finale that wraps everything up neatly
James Gunn's Marvel & DC Big Bads Ranked 1. High Evolutionary 2. Ego the Living Planet 3. Starro _Auggie Smith/White Dragon (HONORABLE MENTION)_ 4. Ronan the Accuser 5. Gaius Grieves/Thinker 6. Eek Stack Ik Ik 7. Ilana Rostovic
I think clayface just left his outer layer/shell. He's done it before to fake his death, pretty positive at least once or twice in the 90s batman the animated series
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Sir, as an author you piqued my interest. What version of Green Arrow would you want to see?
Who would you choose to be the Director?
And lastly who would be your Oliver/Green Arrow?
You could mine this concept when the news is slow, Boba'sFlicks? Anyway, great review as always.
Are you a secret green arrow producer?@@randall-thehorrorwriter
@@randall-thehorrorwriter Intersting that you specified author when this video could pique your interest in general. Not like its a screenwriting video lol
I don't think Illana is not coming back at some point. There are so many unanswered questions, who gave her the scar marks? Why was circe crying?
I loved this finale (and the series as a whole) and didn’t find it “rushed” at all. After all, in James Gunn’s DCU the events of each project can carry over to the others - meaning that any questions we have now can be answered in the next movie/TV show. I don’t care if Flagg’s recovery isn’t seen until Superman or Peacemaker 2. 🤷🏾♂
😔Rest in Peace, Nina. You were too good for this sinful earth.😔
Wow, Just wow. That ending was really crazy. Nina was so innocent and for it to end like that for her is very sad. Can’t wait to see what they do in season 2 tho.
Crazy how in each of their back stories the humans are portrayed as the bigger monsters than the actual monsters
I know right?? The writing in this show has been amazing!!!
Not in The Bride's story. Dr. Frankenstein wasn't a bad dude.
@@s-wo8781 bro he basically created an undead daughter and then made love to it thats kinda predatory and fucked, bro has a wife and kids.
@@s-wo8781 yeah he just fucked his creation that was only like a year old, and he calls his first creation his “son” so he’s definitely a weirdo
Dr Frankenstein was not a good dude, the Bride was mentally a child. True she had adult hormones, but it was still at the time predatory. Even if she doesn’t view it that way.
Justice for Nina
Agreed.
The bride already did it for us
Literally already happened
The moment I saw Ilana stab Nina multiple times and showing absolutely no remorse for it, that's when I realized that Circe was right about her
Most surprising and unpredictable animated show I've ever seen. 9/10. Amazing show, Want More of It.
The moment Weasel bites Phosphorus's arm reveals a deeper connection to his humanity, as his eyes briefly shift back to their original weasel form. This change hints at something inherently human within him, especially as he recalls a little girl in the princess and instinctively tries to warn her. However, the pain from the bite pulls him back into his primal state, dimming his eyes. This duality in Weasel's behavior intrigues me, making me eager to learn more about his backstory.
I hate weasel. Thats asshole is the reason why nina is dead
Weren’t you on Charlie’s channel as well?😂
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baby nina walking with the 30lbs of metal reminded me of me walking my mom in her last days...i'm 6'2 and she was 4'll...man it broke my heart
I cried a little when I read this. My heart goes out to you man
Damn, sorry. Hope you're doing okay mate.
I am really sorry, Sir.
thanks guys, it's a day at a time for me
@@kevz2474 Glad to know mate!! Just know that you're not alone. I know it sounds stupid but if you want an email address of someone to talk to, just let me know. It sounds crazy, but having gone through a rough patch before myself, I oddly found it easier talking to and opening up to a complete stranger than having to show those closest to me my true feelings. I know that sounds bad but I needed to appear strong for my sisters because they were falling apart. And it helps when it doesn't have to be someone face to face. You can maybe talk about stuff that's hard to with someone staring right back at you. Anyway, keep your chin up and rememer how much your Mum loved you. She might not have been well, but I bet she really appreciated you looking after her in her final days. Sorry if I rambled, but your story got me. You have a good soul my friend!!🙏
I swear, dr mizursky is a great dad honestly, i just wish each episode was 30 minutes at least, i dont get much time to be with the characters which is unfortunate. I need season 2 now
Cheer up mate, we are going to see more of them in the dcu, for example Rick flags appears both in the superman new movie and peacemaker season 2
He’s a good dad with good intentions but dude it is so irresponsible to just throw her into school like that. I get you want her to socialize but there HAS to be some way to dip her toes in before chucking her in the deep end (yes pun intended). Let her tutor a blind kid. Set up a play date with a neighbor where the parents supervise, these are teenagers. Best case she’s relentlessly bullied, worst case the kids form an angry mob
@pianist150 truly that's why it was so emotional and heartbreaking, it felt to me that it was the mom's place to set those boundaries but she left and who knows how painful it was for him, like I could see this as a short movie it was gut wrenching watching their backstories really and I just loved Nina, but yeah honestly it would've been so much better if it was longer or even let go some of the present time plot for the flashbacks.
@ Nina’s death hit the hardest for me because she never got anything. No badass moments, no vengeance for her father, no reciprocated connection from The Bride until it was too late, she just got bossed around and mistreated and then she died
It sucks it is common good people get screwed by bad people, and morons like the fkn cop. In that sense, I can understand that happening to them, but still sad for these type of characters could never have a break.
Nina suffered way too much. I legit hope they give her a memorial and proper funeral in season 2. 😭😭
This show proves that the new DCU is gonna be a "anyone can die* superhero universe. Intense.
No it's just for the Suicide Squad which they basically are.
@@s-wo8781not necessarily
@@s-wo8781nope
@@s-wo8781all major comic book characters have died before, so they could always die again.
The Bride has been my favorite all season.
I personally enjoyed the vagueness of the “reasoning behind the Princess being a villain”. I think the only way to really explain why and how she would eventually start WWIII could only being explained through more future visions, since it most likely takes multiple years for the events to transpire leading to her fall into villainy, her collaboration with Grodd, and so forth. Leaving it unexplained kinda has an “I guess we’ll never know” vibe to it, which I think is fitting for the show since it’s a smaller project than something like Superman, which will definitely hold more canonical consequence.
But surely she had to be evil and definitely up to something in present day?? Or why would she have been going for her gun at the end. Or even trying to cover up everything with Clayface. She was currently up to something or had to have at least known what she was gonna do in the future.
@SchecterIsKING I assume she already had the goal of world domination, and was waiting til she was in power to attack other countries. It is vague but we can tell she was pretty psychotic.
We really don't need to know that much tbf.
She had always been evil and was conspiring a WW3 and she doesn't need a reason for it aside from her being power hungry.
I don’t think the episode was rushed but I think there were missing elements but with it being renewed for season 2 I wonder if they deal with the ramifications of the bride killing illana next season or something trickles down into Superman since we know there’s conflict going on elsewhere. As for Rick Flagg maybe when we meet up with him in Superman he’s waking up or getting back into work after the coma
Man shocked at what happened to Nina. Also I wasn’t expecting new characters this quick I thought the season one cast was gonna be series regulars but cool the team just like all others are being expanded. Do you think it’s gonna be a new team lineup every season?
It potentially could be
I believe that weasel die the next season
Gunn likely wants to play with plot armor. This way we can never be sure who will be there by the end of an episode.
@@disguisedcentennial835 bruh every team has new members 🤣🤣🤣
I thought this was a great start for the DCU well done and nicely paced
Did anyone notice that Ilana was signing off on some documents right before the Bride shot her? Is there any significance to showing us the signature? Maybe she was authorizing some conflict that we'll see in Superman this summer?
Yeah maybe something that can be translated from Russian to English?
I tried my darnest but it is pure gibberish, a mixture between German, Russian and Serbian cyrillic. Which gives more indication that Pokolistan has its own unique language derived from surrounding nations.
@@SilhouettedAnimator thank you for the effort, kind stranger! It's pretty cool to have this level of detail in the show, down to text on a computer screen, either way. Gives the episode lots of re-watch potential!
Great thought.
Maybe it could be some kind of succession ruling since she is (presumably) the last of the royal bloodline.
Not sure if that’s it, but it regardless seems significant.
Also, they showed a Mummy looking guy at the end when ye new team was assembled. If it is Khalis, he's ressurected Nina in the comics before. It might have been during Flashpoint: Frankenstein and the Creatures of the Unknown #1 but I'm not sure on that.
Ok I usually hate resurections and fake-out deaths but I'll make an exception for Nina cause she's too precious to remain dead
@@Coconut_PrrsonI agree, bring back Nina! Who’s with me ✊🏻?
I believe Gunn confirmed it as Khalis in his breakdown of the episode
@@Coconut_PrrsonI hope that in the DCU it is like the comics whereas it has a ton of fakeout deaths and resurrections to the point it gets a bit old after awhile
Me! She literally did nothing in the season. Her full potential.
I enjoyed this episode but wish we had another one. It did feel kinda abrupt. Nina’s and her dad’s story was heartbreaking to say the least. I thought it was strange no one heard the Bride’s gun tbh. Interested to see what season 2 will bring
Nina really had such a sad run and died an innocent person in the end. A true tragic life and honestly at least she had a loving father
this show just confirms the real monsters are people
Every episode was better than the entire Snyderverse. Great job, James Gunn. Can't wait for Superman!!!! ❤
I love marvel and DC
But I can’t lie.. marvel could never go this far with their characters 😭
James Gunn is on a whole another level with not giving a damn about what he does
Which made the show entertaining
I just finished the series and yeah I totally agree with you😂. Not only does the show hit you in the feels really good, but that ending could have given us a little bit more to feel more closure! It definitely was rushed and I guess they're just hoping for you to anticipate a refresher on season 2 but they could have at least given us one more episode of flush this out. Even Harley Quinn/ Suicide Squad isekai felt more fleshed out than this!
FRIEND NINA!🥺
I actually didn't mind the lack of explanation of the princesses motivation very much, I think a huge part of world building isn't just things we know, it's also things we don't know if that makes sense.
Think of something like Star wars I believe one of the reasons it's so immersive is because some things are just hinted at in the dialogue and now people are still talking about those things 10, 20 years later wondering what it meant or implies.
About Wallers phone call instead of shocking them:
In her defense Boba, she has no idea what stage of the mission they are at. They could be about to kill Alana, they could've already done it, they could've been in process of fighting soilders and making there way to kill her but either way...CALLING the general was the best solution so if NOTHING ELSE, he is aware that they were tricked by a witch
If the commandos are shocked before they complete there mission or even after it solves nothing and waller has no idea what's going on, but if she calls it at least shows that "hey we were tricked so don't go to war with us over this"
Not to mention again, if she shocks the commandos and they are killed in action thanks to her shocking them so they can't move then she loses a good team of monsters
Was planning to argue this exact point, but you said it much better! 👏🏾Shocking the CC’s in the middle of their mission could have led to them all being killed by the soldiers, versus the path Waller ultimately took.
The fact that they were able to give humanity to this crazy crew was amazing. So sad seeing Nina go out the way she did but the show makes me so excited for what’s to come with James Gunn and the DCU.
I wonder if we’ll learn more about the princess’ connection to Grod and Clayface in the next season. Can there still be someone or some organization that the princess was working with who still has plans to rule the world?
Legion of doom, that’s probably how she knew clayface
@ That’s what I was thinking. I’d love it to be the Legion of Doom.
2:45 When they said about that they weren't the only monster guest the Princess had lately, I thought they were talking about Eric because he busts through the window right as they said that. But as soon as I saw the Princesses eyes as she murdered Nina, I knew she was truly a "monster" and not as innocent as she let on. Also, the way she insisted on going for her swim even though Sergei warned her it was too dangerous, was a red flag. She was too care free for an innocent Princess that had a threat on her life. Subverted my expectations greatly though as I didn't see Clayface being one on the moniter coming. Hope Clayface isn't really dead though. So man cool stories for him in Batmans world going forward. Great show.
We’re getting a Clayface film with Mike Flanagan directing, so there’s no way he’s dead; not that it couldn’t be a prequel, but to what? The very bare bit of character we got for him?
At least if GI Robot hadn’t been rebuilt, there was enough for him to justify appearing in the St. Rock movie…
@borjankosarac3645 Oh cool!! I've always loved Clayface stories. CAN'T WAIT for Brave and the Bold too!! Also, St. Rock movie??
After that Finale I am very excited for Season 2 with the new Members and everything
She didn’t want to destroy the world, she wanted to rule it with an iron fist as her nation has access to some kind of advance technology similar to wakanda
I haven't seen the finale yet, but, this is obviously the better worded explanation.
What good would "destroying the world" be to anyone?
I guess if you wanted to commit the biggest mass murder-suicide of all time, but...who would even know?
I feel like a *lot* of this season was cut for one reason or another.
I love all the characters - except for the princess, who's mostly worthless in current day - but, the story is pretty damn weak.
I feel like current day (the story of this season) was a very small part of the show and just an excuse to tell the backstories.
Also, 7 episodes?
7 is my favorite number and that infuriates me.
Not 10 episodes.
Not 8 episodes (like HBO does a lot for some ridiculous reason).
7 22-28 minute episodes.
Maybe, just maybe, more could have been explained if there was an 8th episode to wrap everything up.
I still have a feeling Clayface will be alive/ resurrected. I’m sure waller will find a way to use him
Overall good series. Personally eps 3 and 4 were my favorite I wish there was a little more focus or movement on the main plot through the whole series but I really enjoyed it! Onto Superman!!
We are so used to media where, at the end up the day, all the mysteries are wrapped up with a little bow and set on the table in front of us to coo over.
Maybe it's ok for there to be one or two mysteries in our fantasy. Tho I think Gunn will bow to pressure and explain it all
if the kingdom makes a deal with ghoul, she could be put in the lazarus pit and come back, crazier and more dangerous. Maybe even use frankenstein to revive her somehow
Why did Nina have to die like that? She was so innocent, and deserved so much better after knowing her tragic backstory. 😢
The only thing I can guess is that since the Princess was shown to be working with Grodd in the vision we might learn more about this plan down the road. She might be a two dimensional villain, but she might also be a tool for Grodd.
Does that make it any more satisfying, I dunno.
I just love how it keeps showing how robert isnt the dcu batman
I know S2 is quite a while away considering Gunn wrapped Superman and peacemaker S2 but when we do get S2 which it was confirmed a while back it’s getting more seasons what things you want to see in season 2 boba?
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I think the point was to leave Ilana's motivation a mystery. At least that is what I felt while watching. My guess is that we may get answers in SUPERMAN or Peacemaker.
2:39 I thought that there would be some meta-human villain or wizard-witch character related to Kirke, but I have not expected that :O
CC would have benefitted from an 8th episode. One final flashback montage showing us the Princess' history and why she was plotting to do what she did in Circe's vision. But you can see Gunn is keeping that card very close to his chest for some reason. Likely due to some kind of greater DCU Thanos-level threat type of implications. But yeah, to give us nothing, not even an admission from the princess that she is an evil psychopath before she gets shot is kinda weak.
The only thing I feel is a strench is why is clayface just hanging out in her apartment, like if your plan was to undermine Circe's plan, it's only undermined if they know McPherson is dead and in the meantime you're just hoping Rick or someone can figure it out before you get assassinated.
It kinda felt like one of those “webisodes” they used to do, like behind the scenes filler for the main series. I did enjoy it overall, but the story was lacking and the main point of the show was to introduce the characters, because that was the strongest aspect of the show.
Yo what about the Bride calling Dr Phosphorus, Ghost Rider. Cuz I was cracking up
I totally get you on the princess thing. But honestly, that twist was perfect! Showing that seemingly perfect beauty as the real monster? Like when the princess was stabbing, Nina. That part was terrifying! I think the whole show could've used more time, that's my only real complaint. I wanted more, but I loved every episode, especially the flashbacks. They were all brutal or heartbreaking, Nina's hit me the hardest. Is James Gunn calling the whole DCU's first chapter "Gods and Monsters"? It sounds like tragic monster stories and messed-up humans being the real monsters will be a big deal. He's looking at stuff like *Swamp Thing*, and I heard something about Deadman, though I don't know much about him. I'm so hyped to see what happens next!
I’ve watched many reviews and Easter egg breakdowns and no one has mentioned the Creature from the Black Lagoon reference. When Ilana was swimming and Nina was mirroring her just like the creature was mirroring Kay. Also we didn’t find out what was going on with the Queen, was she just that old or was Llana doing something to her which seems probable. I believe we haven’t seen the last of Nina because except for the Waynes, no one stays dead in DC Comics. ( Jason, Superboy Prime, Joker, etc.)
So sad that Nina is gone. She was one of, if not the most likeable character in the entire show and she had such a tragic backstory (her, Phosphorous, and Weasel were the most heartbreaking). On the flip side, I'm happy they brought back my boy G.I. Robot! Him and Dr. Phosphorous are my overall favorites. Looking forward to seeing King Shark with the team in season 2 whenever that comes.
It’s crazy how portrayed humans as bigger monsters than other different characters in other media like X-Men, Attack on Titan and other things like that. Good written story.
Weasel sees Alana swimming in the water and can't help but dive into the water with her. I know the feeling.
I think an episode 8 exploring Alana’s backstory would’ve been great and made the finals feel more satisfying
I hope that in S2 they explore some of the parts not explained in this episode. I wonder if the princess was mind control by Grod? I guess will find out, I hope.
Nina dying was a tear jerker😢
It seems like everyone is in the wrong for Nina's death. The government for capturing her and sending her to Belle Reeve which leads her into getting on The Suicide Squad, The Bride, and Phosphorous for peer pressuring into killing the Princess, Weasel for blowing their cover, and the princess. The Bride could've definitely just waited for the princess to get out of the water or just waited for to sit still in the water and sniped her. Also in The Suicide Squad they had comms in their ears. I don't know why she called the palace instead of talking directly in her ear.
i think they probably lost the comms at some point during their chase around pokolistan, or maybe they got damaged in the skirmish? i get what u mean though
Just some thoughts. One, I had no issue with the Princess going on a swim, because I felt that was a reflection of her arrogance in the knowledge that she was playing puppet master and had become overly confident. Two, I wonder if the backstory of why the Princess was trying to do what she was is something they plan to reveal in season two. Three, I know many might find it lame, but I would love it if Nina actually lives somehow. It seems such a shame not to see her true power. I might be misremembering, but I could have swore there was some hint somewhere about how powerful she actually is or could be.
13:13 can’t be dead we’re getting a clayface project plus I don’t think you can well kill clay he can probably regenerate 🤔🤔🤔🤔
The movie about Clayface is supposed to be an origin story for him, so for this project we don't need him to live after Creature Commandos.
@@mafioo_also it could be a different Clayface
@@jacobcrist7982yeah I researched there is more than one which I didn’t know
The thing about the princess' motives being underdeveloped is this whole show is about supposed villains who to varying degrees arent that bad or at least have a reason for being the way they are. The princess just being evil was a balance to that. Sometimes bad guys are just bad.
I get some people need to have the villain motivation, but this show was more structured toward the character-driven storytelling. But Gunn also said it's just an aperitif, so the world-building was the most important part of the series, imo. and they part was done quite well and never felt forced.
Good series. Definitely felt rushed as far as the main Plot in the Finale. Gunn definitely should added more episodes or increased the length. I mean 23-25 Mins per episode. Look at Caped Crusader or Invincible. 8 Episodes each at about an Hr in length. No drop off in Pace or Storytelling or Arrow style “Flashbacks” for the Character origins
I have been wondering this but can you do another adapting the rouge’s gallery this time focusing on mad hatter .
I put it together pretty much as soon as they showed clayface with the princess.
Now that i think about it didn't Clayface as the Dr, validate Circe's vision? Wouldn't that be counter productive for the Princess' plan?
I think Waller didn't shock the commandoes because their screams would give away their position. And it wasn't posible for Waller to know where the creatures were at the time, or how their mission was going.
Waller didn't want to start a war, but she also wants to keep her assets (Taskforce M) alive for future missions.
I don’t think that Ilana will stay dead. Does anyone else remember that ointment goo that the old lady rubbed on Frankenstein in his flashbacks? To me it seemed very similar to the stuff that turns Clayface into Clayface, and we’ve already seen him working with Ilana. I think she may have some clay powers too from that stuff, and that she’ll be the villain in Season 2, where they’ll go more into her motivations and schemes.
One theory for how they could do the Eric story line is time travel. Now obviously that can be annoying and overused and continuity ruining, but if done right, make a scene very cool and interesting that could lead to many other stories.
What if in the first episode of season 2, Eric finds the bride. After a jump cut of sorts, he has finally found her. They do their thing and duke it out. But depending on their surroundings, meaning the context of the episode, what if they somehow get themselves to travel back in time a certain amount of time. The bride and Eric still fighting as that happens. During them traveling back we could see cool scenes through the history of DC lore. And eventually the bride gets the upper hand (both of them are, at this point, very far back in time) and somehow gets eric in a solitary state (headless, frozen etc). The bride gets back to present time while leaving Eric in the distant past, only for him to eventually come back later on and try to get his revenge and unleash all his pent up hatred he would have after being left behind by the bride all those years in a state where he could do nothing but watch the world go by.
One error I can see in that theory would be Eric trying to source out help to get back to the present day, or getting help from his creator and potentially making it so that the bride never existed.
They could use some device that Waller had locked away or while on some mission/trip they inadvertently run into someone with that power/ability to help them get to the past. Both for how they got there in the first place and how the bride leaves and eventually Eric leaves.
I'm pretty sure the lack of closure in each characters will be answered in the next season or in the upcoming series that they lead to. Like PM s2, or GL series, or CC s2. They prolly dont wanna answer everything in s1. They wanna leave a story for the new team
13:48 wait there more than one clay face who are they I thought it was one person the whole time
It's just one clayface
@ yeah but I mean there’s been different people in the comics who have been clayface
@@JacianGonzalez quote from Google so take it with a grain of salt "Clayface is a legacy name used by several Batman Villains, like Basil Karlo, Matt Hagen, Preston Payne, Sondra Fuller, Cassius Payne, and Peter Malley. Each of them has powers that involve a malleable clay-like body structure and were patients at Arkham Asylum at some point."
yeah i agree with you here 27:48, i have been enjoying this show, been feeling like it's a good-might even say great-show, but with this last episode my feelings have changed, it was just an okay show 🤷🏾♂️
i think we were left with questions on purpose. i think the princess being a one dimensional villain was on purpose to leave us wondering why and how, i think season 2 will give more answers on how she got to know clayface and how grodd would have been involved
I agree with all your points. I wish we got more backstory on why the princess wanted to take over to begin with, although I understand this will (hopefully) be explored in season 2. The show needed longer episodes, at least 30 mins. I did love the show but it felt a bit sloppy unfortunately
Clay face was only down for like a day or two. Its not been that long since he fought Rick. Its also why Rick is still down as well, this was all over the span of a week or less. No one has had time to really heal
Lowkey the ending reminded me kinda of super where ninas death didnt feel really necessary and it felt rushed
They must have seen numbers early and green lit season 2 so I'm assuming it'll be part of that or flashbacks that were actually part of S1..... hopefully
Best DCU series so far 🔥
They couldn't delve into alot of
Ilana Rostovic plans as the events hadn't taken place yet as it was a glimpse into the future. Think it was more a case of taking over the world rather than setting out to destroy it. The bride laid out her true character before killing her I found that explanation enough.
If Waller used the remote, she would have no idea on what situation they would be in. If they were mid fight or something, she could've gotten them all killed, or discovered (which also might have gotten them killed) if Nina was in the water already, and they use the shock, that could've shocked the princess as well. What is dumb imo, is why she doesn't have direct comms to everyone on the team. That would've made more sense, and you can play up the sequence the same way, just have Waller started to speak as soon the Princess takes the knife, but it was too late.
This final episode is heartbreaking and yet a neat ending to the first season of creature commandos. I would agree to see why the princess wants to take over the world. As for my thoughts on the next season of creature commandos, will the bride be thinking about Nina? Would Dr. Phosphorus will ever touch a woman again? Will the Weasel be proven innocent from the murder charges on the children or will Nina be brought back to life?
I think the show takes place after Superman. It explains Flag's mostly white hair, and James Gunn has already explicitly stated that the timeline would not be linear (comparing it to Star Wars). It also would allow Clayface to actually be dead without causing any issues with the upcoming film. I don't think there are any discrepancies in the theory (assuming Economos is permanently crippled from that gnarly injury).
Ten on Ten show man quick fast and accurate perfect
Princess Alana’s villain story feels like the main villain from the film called neighbour it’s a prime and Lionsgate film and the main villain has no backstory but she goes around killing people because she finds it fun and entertaining and the main villain has no backstory why she kills people and who trained her up for it
Just realised something here.Bride wasn't sure, if theory about Rostovik hiring Clayface was correct, so she decided to provoke her and observe the reaction.
Wild guess here, but I feel like at sime point will see Gorilla Grodd in something & he'll explain how the princess was a pawn for her resources, or mind controlled? Or it couldve been a way for them to get across the Bride's point of I dont care about anything except Nina.
And with that… we have something else to look forward to…
DCU SUPERMAN BABY!!!! LET’S GOOOOO!!!!!!
The fact that The Princess hired a shapeshifter, but let him walk into her castle in his monster form is ridiculous to me. He should've been disguised as a human, maybe one of the Amethyst Knights or something like that. I'm also not a fan of how both Rupert Thorne and Clayface died by the end of the series, they had so much potential to be featured in the Batman movies of the DCU.
Perhaps we will get all those questions answered in the Waller show? That’s just a guess.
I think the villains r together I think the light is in the mix and they outed circe for something she did and she went after the princes cuz of whatever oil they had the light might have sum use for it. The light is from young justice fir those who dont know
The ending was extremely rushed and left a lot to be desired.
Why was Nina admitted to Belle Reve, a maximum security prison, when she was never accused of doing anything of the others?
Why was The Bride so eager, and even happy, to work with Waller after her botched mission caused the death of her only friend? One of the major reasons she despises Eric is the fact he killed Frankenstein, so Gunn didn't even keep his own parallelism
The Princess' death is glossed over as if her security detail wouldn't have noticed the Princess dead minutes after the commandos left and blamed Waller as they made their way back to home base
What the hell was Grodd doing in the vision? That was never expanded upon, and it's a shame that we have to wait at least 6 months for ANY kind of conclusion to the cameo fest that was in the show
It was such a ball drop of quality from the previous 6 episodes
You just don't pay attention to the show.Rewatch it and all the questions are answered in the show.
@criticwhosalwaysright1404 None of the questions I asked were lmao
I thought it was great to depict a mother who is like that. People only want positive representation but the world is filled with such mothers and everyone pretends they don't exist.
and btw such a heartwarming performance by the father.
I loved Nina's backstory and her death really got me but as a finale it felt like it was lacking, as soon as the episode ended I went straight to Google to see if it really was the finale it felt like it needed at least one more episode, like I don't get what Ilana wanted to end the world for or how she met Clayface, it just felt like another episode and not like a finale that wraps everything up neatly
Agreed
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2. Ego the Living Planet
3. Starro
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4. Ronan the Accuser
5. Gaius Grieves/Thinker
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7. Ilana Rostovic
I think clayface just left his outer layer/shell. He's done it before to fake his death, pretty positive at least once or twice in the 90s batman the animated series
Literally just tjis second finished watching it, 21 seconds to getvhere is crazyyyyy
I always thought it would be cool to have gills. If I didn’t get ear infections so easily I would chose to have gills and live under water.
I took king shark cameo leading into Harley dropping in a week as Harley Quinn show is ALSO apart of the dcu. My theory
How was the wedding bro? Mine was total madness... I got my dream girl
I honestly forgot about their remotes
Just cause he said he know what its like to not be touched 15 years doesnt mean phosphorus was changed extactly 15 years