ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2024
- A man shot dead in Spain is believed to be a Russian military helicopter pilot who defected to Ukraine in 2023.
Maxim Kuzminov flew a Russian helicopter into Ukrainian territory, where he handed himself in.
Spanish police have not publicly confirmed the identity of the man, who was shot multiple times near Alicante last week. However Ukrainian intelligence confirmed Mr Kuzminov's death. A burnt-out car apparently used by the attackers was found near the scene.
Mr Kuzminov reportedly contacted the Ukrainian secret service to inform them of his decision to defect in 2023. He then flew his Mi-8 helicopter over the border and landed in eastern Ukraine in August.
At a news conference in Ukraine, Mr Kuzminov said he switched sides because he opposed Russia's war in Ukraine. He also said that Ukraine had promised him $500,000 in payment, along with new identity documents and protection for his family.
Sophie Raworth presents BBC News at Ten reporting by Nick Eardley.
Subscribe here: bit.ly/1rbfUog
For more news, analysis and features visit: www.bbc.com/news
#BBCNews
As aoon as i saw him doing interviews i knew he was a goner
He's alive. They covered him giving new identity
He killed his two copilots a d was awarded $400,000 by Ukraine for delivering them a Mi-8.
Had it not been for the deaths of his 2 co-pilots I'd say maybe this was unjustified. But....he did kill his comrades. I'm not sure how that can be seen as honorable in any sense.
@@paruhblgen4222 Maybe. It's incredibly important to protect these people in these times.
I'm split on that. One the one side if he's assassinated for the headlines in Russia to help the regime keep soldiers in line there's some mild benefit in that. But realistically for anyone on the ground it doesn't matter. In Russia there should be no change in the ground troops choices. They face a massive mortality risk in the war and the chance you're assassinated as a deflector in that case? Incredibly slim, there's just too many who have surrendered. The biggest risk they face is as POWs being changed back and made examples of. But Russia practically stopped with that because their soldiers are too crappy to trade for Ukrainians.
But for pilots, who have very expensive equipment, there's a different calculation. Their risk in the war is very significant compared to pilots around the world but compared to ground troops it's slim. At the same time they may be handsomely rewarded for "pawning off" Russian aircraft. They're multi-million pieces of equipment. You hand that to a Russian conscript he's running across a minefield hoping he's gonna make it the second he's out of sight.
They also face the negatives of living in a declining society like Russia (only accelerated with the war). They face risks they didn't sign up for, mentally that's a big problem. Modern airforces are very loss intolerant because any effective aircraft is now very expensive.
There's a very skewed reward structure for them. There's a lot of unexpected risk.
With the defection they avoid those downsides and get serious upsides.
Russia has the incentives and ability to change that calculation. The amount of defections/surrenders are very small in numbers compared to ground forces. If you've flown and landed a plane on a Ukranian airbase you're very clearly guilty unlike ground troops who may have done a completely reasonable surrender. The same is obvious to the public.
So killing deflectors in the west sends a signal that helps offset that in a real way.
Russia just have to assassinate enough deflectors that pilots can asses a mortality rate for deflectors that's high. You don't need to reach a large percentage just yet. Imagine your only priority is to live, reasonable. Imagine you estimate a 20% chance you make it through the war in a Russian aircraft. Russia just has to assassinate enough deflectors that the Russian pilots assess the mortality rate over 10 years to be >20%. That's how you live longest rationally. So how many percent do Russia need to assassinate now? This year? Say you think they're going at a constant rate, I think that's an overestimate. For 10 years and 20% that's just 2% of deflectors per year.
Adjust length of time and mortality rates as you like. It's just an example. The point is that Russia doesn't need to assassinate many to _make it seem_ deflecting is risky.
Sorry, long winded explanation. My thinking is just that consider that aspect and consider the loss for the west to stage a fake assassination that gets highly publicised in Russia. It's in Russias interest for there to appear to have been an assassination.
If it is true then I think they're going to fake it and then subvert it by showing him to be alive. Throwing actual assassinations into doubt.
The better choice for the west is to simply make him disappear without anything. Move him, secret identity etc. Then Russia would have to fake the assassination. Again more likely to me than the west faking one.
@@0xCAFEF00D 1) This guy was not in the frontline when he hijacked a helicopter. He was stationed deep in Russia. His mother defected first and arranged this with Ukraine intelligence. 2) They change only those POWs who want it. Some remain in Russia, some in Ukraine. At the end of WW2 though, Britain handed over to USSR those Soviet citizens who fought communists with the Wehrmacht
@@0xCAFEF00D Russian soldiers are too crappy? You must be one of those that believes the counter-offensive is building steam. RUSSIA just took Adviika Wake up!
You didnt need to be a psychic to see this coming.
Example, the arrest of whitey bulger.
It does kinda show what Putin's priorities are vs actually winning the war tho.
He likely just compromised covert operatives in Spain for a grudge killing
I was just wondering why he's in Spain. The current Spanish government is extremely incompetent in geopolitical matters, they will just ignore the situation.
A few months after the start of the war one of the big fishes of Gazprom and its family were brutally unalived in Lloret de Mar in strange circumstances. The government reacted by having the equality minister post a tweet denouncing the "misogynist assassination nº12 of the year" and talk about how we shouldn't allow violence against women.
She said this without knowing what happened and while everything was indicating an assassination carried out by Russian agents.
BBC Classic. In report was not mention that his two copilots were murdered by Ukraine secret service SBU as they give up.
Considering the FSB monitors the russian army closely
No matter what side you are on Don’t trust a guy who’s betray his brothers.
"When Kuzminov flew into Ukraine, the two other Russian service members on board the Mi-8 helicopter with him did not know what was happening. The pair were killed while trying to escape after they realized they had landed in Ukraine"
So he put service members in harms way?? I can see how ANY military command would be totally choked and take it personally. I was wondering if anyone could even fly that thing alone! Obviously not.
So that guy delivered death sentence to two of his fellow airmen and brother in arms for short fame, and in my opinion some russian agent in spain angry hearing that story and decided the kill the man due to patriotism.
That part BBC won't say. Thanks for clearing up the picture.
Are you KGB?
@@freedomlife3623 Are you brain dead?
"What is it impossible to forgive?"
Putin: "Betrayal"
He actually said it once
@@15284750Он, это доказал не единожды.
Putin is a terrorist and hypocrite himself.
Все правильно! Но посмотрите интервью ,где он только угнал вертолет,убив двух товарищей ,с которыми перед вылетом пил чай ,разговаривал о доме……на этой пресс конференции летчики Украины (!) смотрят на него брезгливо,предатель он и для них .хочешь сбежать-беги,но убить товарища?!
@@qwertq8991 одно говно убило другое говно, параллельно угробив десятки тысяч нормальных людей. Можно конечно отпраздновать, но как-то не вижу повода
BBC missed the part that he also murdered his two comrades who were with him in the helicopter.
could you fill me in with the other two co pilots? he said in a interview about blah blah we went our own seperate ways because he wanted to cross the border but ii feel like he probably shot them and took a run for it, can anybody confirm?
Даже тут боты. Англоязычным больше платят?
@t5me3nf6b
He obviously shot them at the start of the dezertation as otherwise the two other military men could have stopped him during fight when they first realize dezertation (which is instantly since one of them was the navigator). A helicopter needs the pilots constant attention. There is no way he could have arrived in Ukraine if the others are not willing to desert.
So he shot them and when arrevide un Ukraine, they came up with a story, that the two other crew members were shot when trying to escape.
@@somechanel нет, меньше
He probabely didn't want to share the reward money????@@Fullduplex-hp1uj
Traded two lives for money, money did not buy his way out of that one.
Why do you think that he did this only for money, its just lying
@@Китоблатовhe did it for money, This scumbag is worse than anything to betray your comrades in arms is not acceptable.. his faith was sealed when he choosed for himself that costed other lives!
@@Китоблатов This is not a lie, he answered this to the Ukrainian "Journalists" to a direct question Why?" I did it to get the money...." I was even surprised by his answer, and even the Ukrainians... It would be advantageous to answer, "I wanted to fight against the Putin regime." But he just replied "Money"
@@Китоблатов А почему же он не остался в Украине и не вступил в зсу? Получил деньги и уехал в Испанию. Грохнули тварь и слава богу
didn't he try to resign and they threatened to send him to the front lines? At least he died with money in his pocket and by his own choices. Can't say the same for most young russian men these days.
"was called traitor on Russian TV". How else do you call a soldier who deflects a military helicopter to the enemy in the middle of the war, and gets his ceew killed for money?
>posted 10 minutes ago
>over 50 likes
@@bidenator9760 HIs crew was Killed by Ukrainian forces because they refused to surrender when he landed, so he in fact did get his crew killed. Only he survived, for a while, because he surrendered.
@@bidenator9760still accurate though even if it is a bot. He was a traitor.
Bot
@@MrTredBear Have you given up?He made an agreement with the enemy and took the helicopter to the enemy's side.No one except himself from the crew knew about his plan.People were killed as unnecessary persons in this operation.Only he's so stupid that he thought they wouldn't find him.
So let me get this straight...
- Guy defects to Ukraine with a Russian helicopter.
- Instead of waiting for an opportunity when he can defect alone, he essentially kidnaps 2 crew members to go with him. The two are subsequently killed by Ukrainian forces when they refused to surrender.
- Guy goes on TV to bad mouth Putin, making sure the incident can't be kept under wraps, while also showing the entire world what he looks likes.
- He finally runs off to hide in a part of Spain where a lot of Russian, many with former ties to the military, works as bouncers.
Why are you defending your enemy?
@@luciferjohnson8495 wow, how programmed you are to be told who your enemy is! Wow!
@@geoffbirchall7552 wow you people are so blind wow
You would be okay if samething happens to Snowden correct? Wow wow wow
@@luciferjohnson8495 no idea what you are saying there? Keep listening to your government…..whichever that is?
@@geoffbirchall7552 I'm making fun of u. And I'm Russian
He killed 2 of his comrades while going for Ukraine. These two he killed trained with him, served with him and they died by his plans. Its one thing to oppose your country and flee with equipment, its something else to betray his comrades who had no idea about his plan.
Do you have evidence that this happened or is this the product of the Russian voices in your head?
Why? They were fighting for Putin. He was trying to escape that situation and fight against Putin. You might as well accuse an SS officer of being immoral for turning on the Nazis.
@@patricknorton5788West good, Russia bad
Nah, Russians have no loyalty or honor anyway.
@patricknorton5788 15k civilian deaths in Ukraine in 2 years bleak before millions killed by the West in its illegitimate invasions just in recent couple of decades.
It's the West who established that might makes right, Russia, Iran, China just follow the rule.
So don't be hypocrite and enjoy the whole World ensuring Western decline
Did he expect to live happily ever after?
Gorbachev lol
dudes already on diabeetus speedrun 😂
as they say in Russia: “a dog’s death is a dog’s death”
It says like this - Собаке - собачья смерть.
@@sargatanas91 давайте переводите друг другу, знатоки мля
@@veaccara Могу тебе перевести на пешее эротическое путешествие, там тебя заждались.
@@veaccara Я тебе могу перевести на интересное эротическое путешествие. Тебя там уже заждались и прогулы выпивывают.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way) don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
First of all, if you have any questions regarding Islam and yourself, just open the Quran randomly, and you will find the answer in front of you, like a miracle and a sign from God.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
God said : Say, “We believe in Allah, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and in what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We do not differentiate between any of them. And to Him, we surrender.”
(2:136 / Translated by Community)
Salam (Peace) ------
Putin: Once KGB, always KGB.
Ukrainian propaganda: Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine faked Kuzminov's death to hide him from Putin.
True, and once CIA always CIA etc..etc…
Smert shpionam
@@TheHk1966 😃👍👍👍
That case got all the reason for it, though. That guy not only deserted, but sold a Russian helicopter to the enemy for 500k - and the worst part, he killed two of his comrades.
Absolutely no surprise that this guy got killed.
Guy defects with a couple million dollar military helicopter, makes his face known to the world and speaks out against Putin on TV. Then he hopes to live anonymously in Spain?
Who's kidding whom? 😂
The previous such traitor was kidnaped by ukrainians and sold.
What a laughing matter. Death is entertainment for you? Especially when it happens to people who got more balls than you.
They are the ones that plastered his face all over the news just 5 months ago. He seemed so non-chalant about it..the little speech they prepared for him to try and entice others also doomed him.
Didn't this vid also say that he got half a million from the Ukrainians as a bonus?
Oh, the vanity of youth that does not conceive of consequences for ones actions. It's hard to become totally anonymous in this world.
Those two pilots killed because of him - were his friends, he didn't tell them what's waiting for them. That says everything about what kind of person he was.
He only cared about money
@@ogcards2898 *clout
Yeah war is tough. They could just give up and live and but they choose to act this way
@@sweetnerevar7030 How could you just stop and leave as a soldier?
@@DanTheTan live not leave. They could just be POWs
"A traitor is worse than an enemy"
In Russia having morals makes you a traitor
@@tacituskilgore80 So does leading your team to their death, stealing their war machines and selling it to the enemy.
Don't think having morals had much to do with any of that buddy.
@@stevensanto5934so what about Edward Snowden?
@@stevensanto5934 pretty sure Putin had lead thousands of Russians to their death
@@luciferjohnson8495 At least he didn't kill his colleagues.
He let his crew in the helicopter die, or he killed them himself. Either way that's even worse than defecting.
HE didn't kill them my ill-informed tardlet. The Ukrainian soldiers killed them after landing and further what may anyone of us ask is that "pivotal and life-threatening situation" you have been in to weigh in his judge? Right. a couch and lack of cheetos and a life borne to ...well you said it, mediocrity.
Cannot trust a man who does that to his comrades, differing views or not.
No sympathy. I can kinda understand defecting on principle if you disagree with your countries military operations but to lead 2 of your brothers in arms into a slaughter is just evil. He absolutely had this coming but I'm not at all surprised that every media source I've seen on this tries to brush over the 2 crewmen he betrayed. The media will NEVER give you the full story. One of the most important lessons I've learned in life.
Didn't the pilots betray the nation by attacking another country? They could have surrendered.
@@meateaterscringe9863 What? That doesn't even make sense.
@@meateaterscringe9863 They didn't betray, they followed orders. But he betrayed his brothers in arms
@@jackthehat1093 Not looking for the best interest of your country. Putting your country in situation where men die for greed is betrayal of a country, in my opinion.
@@1435-u2o Following orders doesn't exclude people for betraying country. If my boss told me to leave my country and give away my land to foreigners I would still consider that a betrayal, even though it was an order.
the other soldiers he took with him were killed
And?
They died@@luciferjohnson8495
@@luciferjohnson8495You are nothing but a despicable, heartless creature who derives pleasure from inflicting pain and suffering on innocent human beings. Your lack of regard for human life is a testament to your inherently evil nature. You are a blight on society and a stain on humanity. When I was a kid I thought my duty was to protect this world from the monster. I was wrong. I have to protect it from you.
@@luciferjohnson8495It's betrayal in the highest form. I'm not going to be surprised if it was ukrainians that dealt with him. Anyway, wicked men don't live for long, God will call them up to answer for their actions.
@@one_step_sideways I understand but this is war what can we do now?
If a British or US pilot did the same would the US and Brits let that traitor live in Spain?
Unironically yes. Desertion is not punishable by death.
@@mysteriousstranger6857 not officially. Unofficially though is another story.
Yes, we have no concept of honor or justice.
@@mysteriousstranger6857а убийство двух своих сослуживцев?
He shot two of his fellow airmen. US would make Spain give him up, he'd go on trial, and get life in Leavenworth.
Him defecting wasn't that big of a problem but killing his battle brothers to do so was unforgivable no matter which side of the conflict he was from.
If you would read the comment section and see how people are spreading lies. Like you are. Some say he killed them others say it was the ukranian
Either way this is war. What did you expect?
Why are you taking sides of the enemy?
@@luciferjohnson8495 the one's saying Ukrainians killed them are following a nonsensical version of events where his fellow professional airmen acted like clueless helpless damsels in distress as he took them to enemy territory.
There's a lot of Russian bots in this comment section spreading this exact fake news.
They are your enemies, so joe you gotta follow the narratives now matter how nonsensical it is 🤫
His 'battle brothers' were Russian soldiers...
Very misleading story. Shame on you BBC.
one normal comment, the story is weird, a lot is missing, not logical,...
But 🤡🤡🤡 still comments and discuss about, like they will invent water🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vlagonda, La VOLGA, order 227 whatever. Shame be the excuse maker
BBC are one of the most corrupt things in Britain 💯 .
What is misleading about the story?
misleading like most of the news they serving
So, if you're going to defect, you might want to go a little further than Europe...
Leon Trotsky thought so
Ahahaha
I hear Mars is nice at this time of year...
Not really! If you want to defect, go quietly and do not make a stin king mess out of it or make moronic blunders like this dude. Go on your way in peace and do not stop at a media house to leave your photos and video footage there.
To where now???
BBC, какие же вы жалкие лицемеры... рассказать, что он сбежал на Украину и ни словом не обмолвиться, что при этом он убил двоих своих сослуживцев...
Так им и надо
Regardless of sides and ideology, that is a scummy move. He got his fellow servicemen killed to save himself. @@MP-tz2yn
@@MP-tz2yn только у вас будут восхвалять предателей, что с Бандерой, что с Власовцами) всех ждет конец схожий с господином из видео от BBC
Он их не убивал. Они свой выбор сделали сами
@@VIKTOR-us7wrхм, также как и он.... НИЧЕГО не получил от своей подлости
Вру... Он получил то что будет в земле чужой, а его мамаша хрен получит, а не деньги
You didn't mention the two servicemen with him who were unarmed and murdered by the ukrainians
And you didn't mention the fact that they were offered surrender and chose not to. Pillock....
So you're defending the Ukrainian army killing two POWs? That's a war crime. 🤨 @TrevorSachko
@@AceChinaThey are only POW if they surrender.
@@TrevorSachko
So killing POW is justified if the one who did it is Ukrainan?? What a stupid hypcricy
@@TrevorSachkoWhy should they surrender? All they know was that there in deep enemy land and they have a DUTY TO UPHOLD to make sure that helicopter returns home to Russia.
They died a better person than there Captain who led them to their deaths you nimwit. YOU ARE A PILOT. YOU TOOK AN OATH TO RETURN THEM HOME SAFE.
“Betrayal is fertile ground for revenge.”
Why dont you metion that he killed two of his onboard crewmembers before defecting.?
how do you know he killed them and not the ukrainians?
They were killed by Ukraine forces
Because that isnt what happened goofy
typical bbc bullshit..
Sorry, have you a reference for that?
Traitor is always a traitor anywhere and in any country!
So is Edward Snowden correct?
@@luciferjohnson8495Snowden never killed his crewmembers in direct or indirect way. Snowden just want more freedom and Democracy for the west and for this we should thank him. Snowden want make your life better aswell.
@@bastikolaski8111 first of all it shows you inconsistent you people in comment section are. Some say he killed his crew mates some say it was the ukranians. You guys don't even do proper research and comment for just the sake of commenting.
On the other hand everyone in comment section is saying never trust a traitor it's good what happened to him. But when it comes to Snowden oh he is not a traitor.
Hypocrite much?
@@luciferjohnson8495 as I said he killed his crewmeber directly(he shoot them) or indirectly(they got killed by ukrainians, because of him). He does this for Money(he say that in an interview). Snowden does it for democracy and freedom. What you don't understand?
@@bastikolaski8111 this si the funny part. Doesn't change the fact Snowden is a traitor. You want democracy and freedom? Why don't you move to north Korea or Iran and see what freedom is like. The fact you are commenting freely against your own country proves the fact that you are a free person.
What you people don't understand is. You change your narrative according to your own desires and views.
You could say the same thing about Snowden. He is living peacefully in a house getting monylthy payment from the government. Everyone needs money kid. Stop defending a traitor. If this dude is one so is Snowden. Wake up. You know the repercussions of this action?
In the British Army his death would be known as a "self inflicted injury".😂
i see , army is corrupted everyhere just like police, once i had a dream to go into special forces till i was able to get there and had the chance to see the shit it is and had the moral to back off even if i put every bet on it... i really have a problem with autorithies especially when the system work like fascism and doesnt go in the 'right' path
In Britain, he would have been poisoned by MI6 with polonium or Novichok, after which Putin would have been blamed for it
🤔
Traitors are not needed by anyone and nowhere
You may be on the Ukrainian side on this issue. But a traitor is a traitor.
He stole a helicopter, betrayed his comrades, took half a million dollars and went on to live a comfortable life in Spain.
Putin got him in the end.
So you think every german soldier who didn't defect in WW2 was a hero and every other was despicable?
Story was worse. In that helicopter were 2 Russian soldiers and they got shot when helicopter landed in Ukr.
Guess chasing him was quet a personal thing
@@Rom2Serge I am pro-Ukraine but if he got his own comrades killed what he did is unethical
@@santaclaus0815 Oh wow. I am reading the comments and I can see that Putin has a lot of hidden supporters on the Western side.
@@federicogiorgetti5503 in winter 2013 i also was "pro Ukraine" and "pro EU integration of Ukraine". Im from Lugansk (eastern Ukraine - Donbas ). Than came spring 2014 , all over eastern Ukraine were protesters , because new government made Ukrainian language as one and only government language , so schools all paperwork , at work people have to speak Ukrainian. Ukraine was a diverse country , main language was Russian and Surjik. Surjik is mix of Russian, Ukrainian and different dialects. People stared protesting , they thought new government was democratic and government will listen for them. Government used force , people became more aggressive. So came summer 2th of may 2014 my city was bombed by Ukrainian jet. Firs time i heard echo of explosions. I was 24 in 2014 i didn't understand what is happening. In august city was shelled in everyday basis, me my parents and half of our apartment building were living in basement.
I don't mean to play on pity or emotions.
So there i understood that in not pro Ukraine , or pro Russian. I just was scared and hell as confused.
Government in Ukraine were saying on one day that they are fighting with Russian soldiers , on another they wre saying it countr terrorist operation. People understood it was bs. Russia took Crimea and didn't care about Donbas os eastern Ukraine.
Even though all whet i don't hate Ukrainian soldiers . every family knows someone who got injured or worse .
On internet people are talking about war like its football.
Idk man , don't know why i wrote all this lol
Traitor. Always.. So it's defector if it's Russian but a traitor if it's western.. 😂..
He did not simply handed himself in. He brought other Russian soldiers to captivity (and death). And laughed on Ukr TV about it, like "I told them not to worry, they seemed anxious.." He was a traitor.
@ryanrothschild9090 He was the only one who could land the helicopter. Two other guys had hoped they could escape once they landed. But were killed.
@ryanrothschild9090 My source is the interview with the guy himself! He gave plenty. Gosh, people accuse me if lying but didn't even bother to study the subject...
Accompanying Kuzminov were an onboard technician and a navigator, who were not aware of his plan to defect.[1][9] Kuzminov later explained that although the crew began to get nervous and behave aggressively, they could not stop him, since Kuzminov was the only one who knew how to fly and land the helicopter. Kuzminov tried unsuccessfully to convince them to surrender.[10]
After landing in Ukrainian-held territory, both of the other crew members tried to escape, but were spotted and killed by Ukrainian soldiers.[1]
Or the dude just killed them both before stealing the chopper, he was the only armed one on the plane.
those 2 people can't testify, so he can create any story.
@@bullshitdepartment From the photos of the helo, the data reset circuit breaker(one that erases all onboard data) was tripped and bulletholes are seen. So the rest of the crew did put up a fight at least.
@@YSKWatch He was thinking he is brave hero. Going on internet and tv talking how he bravely defected. Clearly he had no idea he should not talk about these things.
But he was just a stupid traitor.
@@bullshitdepartment no they would all be armed...but given that he was the pilot and captain they couldn't take him out and tried to escape instead.
“ To forgive him is up to God , But to send him to God is up to me ”-
~ Putin
DAMN 😯! Is this made up!
Yes it's made up@@sophiawilson8696
!!!
@@sophiawilson8696 I think it was a quote from a game
And you best believe Putin did it
I feel so bad for the two brothers that were killer because of him 😢😢
Main reason of his death 2 guys that were onboard with him , they didn't know about his plans and wasnt going to surrender and were killed ( they were not pilots)
He underestimated the Russisan govt and intel service who have extensive assets.
They didn't say the most important thing. Kuzminov, after landing the helicopter, shot his comrades in the back. He talked about it himself in an interview. He also said that the special services of Ukraine promised him $ 500,000 for this crime. This interview in Russian can be found on TH-cam.
Oh shit! Is this true?
You heard it on the kremlebot-infested comments section. Must be true!
@@bramblebop1904important information from the Ukrainian bot
Britsh propaganda media full at work here 😂😂😂😂
Won't the UK do same if their soldier defected with their hardware?
No they don't do such things
and that's the reason for their fall
hovever I don't support such extra judicial moves either
Betrayal is impossible to forgive.
Which side are you rooting for?
@@patricknorton5788on the side of righteous justice, obviously)
Eh the Russian regime is a corrupt mess at this point. Can't really fault anyone for betraying it.
@@dimbasz based on his comment, questionable. Perhaps not this time.
You can be whatever . But no one cries for a TRAITOR
I've read about his entire story.
No matter how you whitewash him, you can't deny that he's just a hateful betrayer who betrayed his closed brothers in arms. No vet likes this kind of guy. He has many other paths, you know, he had many other paths if he wanted to defect.
он не только перегнал вертолет на украину но и убил 2 летчика которые были с ним в вертолете
Modern russians are descendants of the Bolshevik Red army.
Traitors to the Russian Empire, the Tsar and God.
hey, what do you mean " no vet likes this kind of guy". Is it an idiom? I'm learning English
In Spain? Only because he didn't want to fight for the Russian Reich? Spain seems kind of neutral in such conflicts. He needed special protection from the government of Spain or Ukraine.
F FSB!
Hello how are you doing today?
What they fail to tell you is there was two other crew members on the helicopter that he got killed to leave. The wimp is a traitor and he got his buddies killed who had no idea what was going on.
@ryanrothschild9090 maybe by not getting them killed?
It's not his fault that he's a defector. During the war, many soldiers surrender. It is his fault that when he defected, two members of his crew were killed. That's Unforgivable.
Defecting v Surrender v Deserting are 3 different things. Defecting is basicallytreason universally.
Proof? Link? Or you are just spreading hearsay news?
@@luciferjohnson8495or don’t be lazy and just look it up yourself?
@@luciferjohnson8495it was all over the news on literally every news outlet, you either didn't follow up or the news media you follow don't tell the whole truth, just like this video left that part out
It was his choice, you should watch his review, he admitted! That no one tortured him to do that! And that that was his choice, he LIED to his crew members, which shortly after they were killed!
I can promise both his crew members were having feeling like ghost and roach from cod game, when they were killed by thier own commander.
bruh.
I think his mother is the only one who cried over his death
Если бы он угнал вертолет один __ это его выбор, но он подставил боевых сослуживцев и они погибли , а он сдал свою жизнь и сохранил его .И это не по человечески , не по геройски , и нехорошо.
какой такой "выбор"?
Не желаешь воевать - отказывайся, уволят, может накажут, это был бы выбор.
Угон вертолёта даже никого не убивая - это нарушение присяги и предательство, нигде никем не уважаемое.
@@choro3d191 From what I've seen you dont have a choice to not do the job in Russia. Also if he had stolen the helicopter and tried to fly away he would be shot down because they would know what he was doing. But what he did was wrong, he got 2 of his soliders killed in his hands and at his fault.
@@redux467 what do you mean "from what I have sean"?
Have seen where, on main stream media or living in Russia?
Many Russian soldiers refused to participate in this war. Do you think they all shot by KGB or in prison?
@@choro3d191 Yeah there are multiple videos of Russian surrendering and being shot in the back by their own people. And you gave harsh penalties for refusing to go if you were drafted
@@redux467all the way we deal with such stories on media. I've spoken to many soldiers. None of them confirmed something like this.
One of our family member serving in the army refused to go to the war. He is fired, but not shot, and not even in prison.
We must be careful with info from media.
За несколько дней он что-то праздновал со своим экипажем из двух человек, возможно они просто были в отпуске, на записи видно как они хорошо проводят время вместе, смеются и тд.
А потом он пересек границы, он выжил один. Я не знаю кто убил их, но знаю точно что его действия убили его "друзей". Этого конечно в BBC не показали
он их убил,сдавался он один,экипаж был уже мертв,иначе они бы помешали ему
I'm not on Russia side here (nor Ukraine to be honest), he was looking for a better life, fair enough... But getting two other guys killed on the process, guys who had no idea of what was happening and served alongside him... He's no longer a defector, he's a traitor...
Live by the sword, die by the sword...
No one is safe anywhere.
I don’t think many people are planning on becoming traitors to their country, perhaps you are?
Yeah, right. Another US False Flag attempt to discredit Putin after the Tucker Carlson interview showed him in good light. Wake up sheeple. Russia didn't blow up their own oil pipeline either.
No one forgive trators
It is a pity the BBC does not know the full story!
BBC=CNN= fake news
They surely know.
they know everything, they are paid journalist
If something i read is true, then he shouldn´t have called his ex-girlfriend in Russia, and should had known FSB would be listening.
Он убил второго пилота и бортового техника. Запад не должен был давать убежище убийце. Убийца опасен!
Ты придумываешь. Тебя сука слушать - себя не уважать.
@@ronythan3974 он не убивал. Они отказались сдаваться. Война, знаете ли.
Украинцам верите? Превичные
обманчики.
@@good-russian он завёл их на расстрел.
Traitor is traitor no matter what..you can't sell you own people and your country.
Ruzzia is not a country. It's a gangster's hideout.
@@JohnJones-ct9pr Ukraine is not a country. It is a shithole run by corrupt politicians
@@JohnJones-ct9prCry more about it
Россия это империя,я голосую за Путина что бы мы были ещё сильнее,мы не боимся никого,весь мир против нас а мы захватываем его )
@@eckuruf147 ты пишешь с поля боя?
You forgot to mention that apart from handing himself and the aircraft in, he also betrayed and handed to enemy his two crewmembers who were killed by Ukrainians.
we don't know for sure what happened in detail. Ukrainians are not known for killing prisoners.
@@santaclaus0815 I have seen the official interview (briefing) he gave to Ukrainian media after the incident. He stated that none of them was armed, and he said that his colleagues tried to escape towards Russian border and he didn't know what happened to them next, but then he learnt from the local media, they were "probably" eliminated.
The video is on TH-cam, search for title: МЕЖДУНАРОДНАЯ пресс-конференция ПРИГНАВШЕГО МИ-8 ПИЛОТА для ГУР МО Украины
You can turn automated translation of subtitles into English on, the part I mentioned starts at 17:50
There is not any evidence it happened the way he describes it, it would be in his interest to make it look like he has nothing to do with their deaths. But both sides agree on the fact that they are dead.
@@santaclaus0815 new nazis are very well known for torturing and killing prisoners..stop lying
@@santaclaus0815Ukrainians were the ones to say it I'm pretty sure
@@AmbeanWambulance Who cares what you are sure about?
Treason is the worst punishment
Измена кому? Злу служить нельзя
go away @@ПолинаСидор-ц1ш
@@ПолинаСидор-ц1шскажи это украинцам которые поддерживают нациста зеленского
@@sergiovictor7581 ну нацист ли он не думаю, но то что пользуются руками нациков - так это база, чего одна эмблема азова стоит...
@@MnD23212zelensky literally praised a nazi collaborator Stephen bandera
KGB be like that was a normal mission
Vrlo dobra vijest🇷🇺✅
What would you expect for committing the crime of betrayal? What do you think the US would do to a soldier that would do something like that?
@@kiberwolf9403 every soldier has a duty to defend interests of their nation. This ex soldier betrayed his duty and committed an act of treason.
@@kiberwolf9403 why are uneducated fools like you even commenting ? did you see what wikileaks did ?your american soldiers are american killers. we all saw what happened in irak. nice hypocrisy, you are brainwashed as hell.
@@kiberwolf9403 ah yes the pissfull us soldiers
@@kiberwolf9403 they are all killers!
so Americans are Soldiers and Russians are killers ?? lmao, did you hear yourself @@kiberwolf9403
In the process of surrendering he endanger the life of 2 other crew who were oblivious to his intention
You forgot to mention his copilot he killed?
There was two copilots
They are not worth mentioning. They are nazi thugs and nobody is interested in nazi ruzzian thugs.
The BBC doesn't even know that he is responsible for the deaths of two of his colleagues.
they know everything, they are afraid to get their ass kicked by the democratic owner
They had the opportunity to surrender 🤷♂️but they knew the Russians would kill their family if they found out.
After WW2 the British hung the Irish radio announcer " Lord Haw haw" just for talking!
How did they find him so quickly and in Spain?
There are systems you can never escape 😢😢😢
Fue un traidor y asesino a sus compañeros
Not wanting to fight an unjust war wouldn't be counted as treason in my dictionary
It's impossible to betray a dictator because the dictator has already betrayed their country by becoming a dictator.
are u idiot?
Actually crazy how people try to justify an assassination in a different country
Lived longer than if he'd stayed in the Russian army
This is definitely a Russian hit and they should be held accountable
Мы тебя самого скоро к ответственности приставам. К стенке
Remember the primary role of media is not to inform but to shape the public's opinion, impartiality here is like winter in Africa.
lol russian drones all over the comments.
'flew a Russian helicopter into Ukrainian territory, where he handed himself in' killing his 2 crewmen on top
Это было слишком ожидаемо, меня больше удивляет то что он смог так долго оставаться живым
Ha ha ha 😂
FSB is very active in Spain. I wonder why the authorities don’t find the suspects 🤔
authorities must be afraid of FSB ☝️👊💪
It can be ukrainian SBU
The only Russian word l know is предательство or "predatel'stvo" meaning betrayal. Putin hates it 😢
Everyone hates it.
He wasn’t exactly hiding, he was living in Alicante in an area that has Russian expats and criminals. His figure too is quite noticeable.
Guy looks like cookie dough...
Also the $500K wouldn't be enough for witness protection...especially in Europe...if he had gone to a village in South America, Asia or Africa...and stayed off the grid for his whole life. Maybe...you need like $10 mil a year to get proper witness protection from a powerful state really hunting you.
He doesn't look that he's the brightest crayon in the box with all that high profile interviews instead of laying low
Why not go to Africa in a remote place & enjoy his $500K... Perhaps he would have lived without raising an eyebrow...but in Europe? Least of all in Spain?He was a dead man walking.He never enjoyed the defection.
These actions done to Navalny and this defector seem like the tantrum of a man who knows his war is failing.
A traitor is worse than your worst enemy!
Interesting logic, so betraying a terrorist and a murderer is bad?🤔
The Russians are descendants of the Bolshevik Red army.
They were traitors to the Russian Empire, the Tsar and God.
@@Realist-Now, почему ты перестал пить таблетки???
Nazis has zero tolerance for traitors!
@@бравлик-в6ш I think you need meds!
Pilot; "Half a million, I'm off to Benidorm, all sun sea and sangria, it's the easy life for me"
FSB: "Two return tickets to Benidorm please"
Few days before his death he contacted his ex girlfriend in Russia inviting her to come to spain. That's how they got his location which is his fatal mistake.
Traitor of a country and betraying his two crew members is very sad bro
Просчитался, но где? 😂😂😂
ор)
When Kuzminov flew into Ukraine, two other Russian service members on board the Mi-8, who were unaware of his plans, lost their lives on account of his defection.
That is fratricide by Kuzminov, which BBC conveniently forgot to mention in their report.
**Putin does Not forgive BETRAYL**
He killed his crew for money then goes on to do interviews and expect to live a wonderful life.
Traitors usually don't live long.
I like how the comments are completely ignoring the fact that the Kremlin has people operating in western countries. I think you should be more concerned with that.
Was gonna say this comment section is filled with Kremlin bots and trump patsy’s
Let me guess your both trans
@@toads5200let me guess your another 15 year old chud or more than likely some Russian bot. The west is coming for you Ivan, better get ready!
@@jcd_2380west entertaining us.
The permanent crew of his helicopter consists of three people. He landed his helicopter on enemy territory and his two comrades were immediately killed by Ukrainian soldiers.
That guy shot them and not the Ukies. That was the conclusion of the coroner becase both guys had been shot in the left side and at the same height.
They are been torched
@@НиколайКазанский-м7яhello Mr bot would you kindly stop spreading lies? Thank you
So what
BBC aren't you ashamed? You're deliberately not talking about the two other pilots who were with him. Whom he killed
how do you know that he killed them. and why do you give a sh*t about them?
You can defect run but you can't hide.
They probably traced the IP address he used to communicate with family. No matter how safe you think you are, it's a very small world now.
rather, the Ukrainians killed him themselves or gave him all his data
Ukraine killed him to get the 500k back
😁
😅😅 I lived in Russia and I knew everything that happened because my wife is Russian and she lived in Russia and I heard the news in Russia. This pilot was contacted by the Ukrainian secret services to take a helicopter that cost about 15 million euros to Ukraine and he was going to be paid 1 million euros and he was going to be given a Ukrainian document. When he took the helicopter with two colleagues. Without the companions knowing about the taicion. When they landed there. The Ukrainians murdered the comrades. The two citizens on Russian TV called for the head of the traitor.
BBC forgot to mention that he traded two lives just for money
Русские могут быть милосердны к побежденному врагу,но никогда не прощают предателей!
Even i, will be furious and don't know what can i do if someone betray my country.