Is this the WORST BF-109 in War Thunder? (S-199 Sakeen)

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  • @WeBeStronk
    @WeBeStronk  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Is the Sakeen really as bad as we all make it out to be? 🤔 Join my Discord community: discord.gg/TqrH5FSK5X

    • @Vincent-mu2rb
      @Vincent-mu2rb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you kinda sound like murray walker in a way

  • @eduardosoares4253
    @eduardosoares4253 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Pretty ironic that a BF-109 ended up in the hands of Israel of all countries lmao. Also you should give the early French planes a try, specially the first one.

    • @WeBeStronk
      @WeBeStronk  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I do need to play some more French aircraft...

    • @RinTeyai67
      @RinTeyai67 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@WeBeStronk Totally, a lot of them are actually pretty fun. Now sure most of them have the low ammo count problem, but it's still manageable. Which has led to some of them being my favorites. Some examples being the M.S.405C1, M.B.157, and the D.501 is one of the silliest "biplanes". The H-75 is also some good fun being a more agile and fun P-36.

    • @ju00v
      @ju00v 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@WeBeStronk you should play the VB 10, especially the one with 10 guns its a literal MONSTER

    • @way2sh0rt07grad
      @way2sh0rt07grad 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They gave it a bad reputation as well.

    • @Idkwhattoput151
      @Idkwhattoput151 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hehe 1.3 br 20MM go brrrrrt

  • @parvizdeamer
    @parvizdeamer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Basically was a G reengined with Hienkel -111 Jumo engines made in the Czechoslovakia after the war from leftover parts from factories in the country. Supposedly was very heavy and underpowered, but was all Israel could get early in the 1948 partition war.

    • @Charon-5582
      @Charon-5582 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They had too much torque for the job, made them dangerous in some scenarios like takeoff, landing and some maneuvers.

  • @spacedoutchimp4454
    @spacedoutchimp4454 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    ah yes the 109 where a czech warehouse containing the DB engines for this aircraft went up in flames

    • @syinari8266
      @syinari8266 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      context and story?? ☠

    • @wahtx7717
      @wahtx7717 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@syinari8266rex's hangar has a good video about the sakeen

    • @spacedoutchimp4454
      @spacedoutchimp4454 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@syinari8266 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avia_S-199

    • @mariozetik
      @mariozetik 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@syinari8266 Without the original engines, which were not produced in the territory of the then Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, unlike the Bf109G (and K) fuselage and wings, a replacement was sought. The Czechoslovakian store of DB605 engines burnt out probably after a deliberately set fire quite soon after the war (a few months, still not known reason...). Technically and dimensionally closest one was the slightly heavier, slightly weaker, but larger and with heavier propeller equipped (although that was being addressed) Jumo 211F designed for bombers. Jumos were there plenty left without usage. But this engine and propeller added to the negative features of the aircraft, such as the difficult take-offs and landings for the pilots. As we heard, you have to be carefully with throttle, when not, stay on the line was almost impossible. The aircraft were built after the war as a first available Czechoslovakia fighter aircraft, but the jet era was already dawning, so they were sold off to the newly emerging state of Israel, which had no way to defend itself against its Arab neighbours and welcomed even these machines.

  • @MJA-0330
    @MJA-0330 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I play this without the 20mm gun pods, the added weight makes the flight performance even worse. Just make sure to unlock the IAI belt for the 13mm machine guns.

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Still seems risky😅

    • @MJA-0330
      @MJA-0330 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@liamboyle9199 It's not the easiest plane to fly, it may look like a BF109 but it isn't.

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@MJA-0330 Done my share in it mate don't you worry😂
      In fairness it is a 109, it's just Jumo v12 rather than a Daimler V12😆

    • @MJA-0330
      @MJA-0330 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@liamboyle9199 Yeah between air rb and ground rb I have over 1200 kills with it. It's a stinker of a plane for sure

    • @jamiedecosta4553
      @jamiedecosta4553 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      are the iai belts any good? I always run air targets.

  • @crazyadam9281
    @crazyadam9281 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The 13mm like the 12.7mm(.50cal) and 14.5mm are considered large caliber MG's rounds.

  • @dakqwasant
    @dakqwasant 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Webe please play the ad-4 as an interceptor i know it sounds dumb but its a great plane for it. It has a good climb rand and very good armament. i love using it as a bomber hunter

    • @WeBeStronk
      @WeBeStronk  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      the AD-4 Skyraider? Huh... I'll add it to the list

    • @KauppaKomissaari
      @KauppaKomissaari 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@WeBeStronk The 5.7 and 6.0 attackers for usa are suprisingly cdpable fighters am1 ad2 ad4

  • @iamd3ad_ang3l10
    @iamd3ad_ang3l10 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Something I’ve learned about the sakeen… play it like a bf, a fw190, and a strike aircraft… evil guns but snaps inconsistently yet has speed on it and energy retention is very odd and takes a hot minute to get used too… Imo in grb it’s better than arb

    • @WeBeStronk
      @WeBeStronk  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah it's a bit of an odd one to play to any strengths...

    • @iamd3ad_ang3l10
      @iamd3ad_ang3l10 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@WeBeStronk stock is rough but maxed out it’s very odd and I’m yet to find the optimal set up… I will say hull upgrade… done upgrade it… it slows ur plane and energy retention and makes the aircraft really buggy… only time I will say use it is when ur playing grb in arb don’t bother with hill upgrade… all it does add more survivability but in return slows you down horribly and the stat card about it so off its no funny… 1 match it could be spot on next match its awful and annoying to deal with

    • @RadioStationRail
      @RadioStationRail 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WeBeStronk The reason it's so different than other Emils is because it has the Junkers 211F engine and Czek knockoff to boot. They put a freaking Heinkel 111 engine in a fighter lmao

  • @JamesPolymer
    @JamesPolymer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The "worst" Bf-109 is whichever one I happen to be flying when an under-tiered American superprop comes screaming out of the sun at me. >_

  • @athanscreed2545
    @athanscreed2545 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Glad to see that you're....sakeen deez nutz! Hahahahahahahah im so funny- (please put me out of my misery, flying this plane was a pain, engine would blow up despite never taking a hit and teammates being absolute dogwater)

  • @GuteNachts_Dragons
    @GuteNachts_Dragons 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you play the F.58 Hunter in Germany? Its a fantastic Aircraft!!!

  • @georgesgranger6362
    @georgesgranger6362 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Sakeen is simply terrible, its a 109 with the worst engine and flight performance of any plane for its tier. It loses speed stock and refuses to stay in the air

  • @josephportnojgaj7096
    @josephportnojgaj7096 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    it is not Israeli, it was made by Czechoslovakia, after WWII, they took parts of the BF-109 but put the motor of a bomber the Jumo motor which was cumbersome and not balanced and was a death trap, also the machineguns were not synchronized and if you shot them they would destroy de propellor. many Israeli pilots died trying to land it. I used it and got many kills with it, but I got killed as well trying to land it mostly.

  • @Bigbomers1234
    @Bigbomers1234 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WeBe I’m not trying to glizy butt I love your channel soooooo keep doing what your doing

  • @finnleykoons5485
    @finnleykoons5485 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you play the Pz. Bef. Wg. VI
    Which is a German tank at rank IV which is basically a tiger

  • @TheGhostOfAnarchy
    @TheGhostOfAnarchy 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Day 2 of asking WeBe to play the Hs 129 B-3 AKA 'The Duck'

  • @BasicallyBonked
    @BasicallyBonked 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    play the j22a or j22b, they're prop planes around the 3.0 range with 50 cals that have high explosive rounds

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Around? Isn't the B model 3.7 now😂

    • @BasicallyBonked
      @BasicallyBonked 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@liamboyle9199 I didn't remember what BR it was placed at, but I was able to hold my own in uptiers with just the J22a which sits at 3.0. Sorry about that.

  • @chemicalbean
    @chemicalbean 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Day 23 of asking WeBe to play the Yak-9K wth the 45 mm doom cannon

  • @asidewinder5871
    @asidewinder5871 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    people keep shit-talking the Sakeen
    i personally had a better time flying it than the P-51D (and i also have a better KD on it with more kills than on the P-51 with less battles fought)
    also the Sakeen introduced me to Manual Engine Control
    it's impressive how this overheating engine cools down rather fast when the radiators are open and even while WEP'ing the entire match it never turns yellow

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its basically a 109 with a ju88 or he111 engine i think. The normal supply of engines were destroyed but they had engines for bombers still so they used those instead. Made the balance bad among other things.

  • @Pasta_wasser
    @Pasta_wasser 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never played s-199 sakeen bc of the bomber engine (czech) it just some thing that isnt worth it for its price but thats just my thoughts and in sim you get targeted just like rest of bf109s but you dont keep any energy bc you dont have any

  • @Besieiro
    @Besieiro 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i played the sakeen and it became one of my favorite planes actually, the experience i had was to only play AAB and always boom and zoom (don't you dare turn using this thing)

  • @Godspeed_95_51
    @Godspeed_95_51 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sakeen is not really good at all, you will need to use it to grind but it will be painful. The sakeen (not stock) has bad turn time, engine overheats pretty fast. Not so good for a noob like me

  • @KauppaKomissaari
    @KauppaKomissaari 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its a bf109 g with the he111 engines aka kinda shit engine and if you fight even someone with half a brain youll be screwed because you dont have enough energy generation

  • @phantom2hell
    @phantom2hell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    there is a reason that.. it called suck.... iiiinnnn.....ahahahhahahhahah!
    is bad .. so close to very bad..
    over the sakeen.. i prefer a P40..

  • @iwishiwashappy17
    @iwishiwashappy17 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey WeBe maybe you will play fw 190 C, its basically 190 D but its built diffrent. ily man

  • @charliehartridge
    @charliehartridge 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi webe
    Could you consider flying the firefly at 3.3
    It is a lot of fun and I managed to kill a couple of ki 61s in it

  • @thisisrika
    @thisisrika 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please play the Mörkö Morane a france Aircraft upgrade by the Finnish arms

  • @Saiyanblueeditz
    @Saiyanblueeditz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As painful as it is, this plane is in my top 5 planes. Ppl dont understand that its the guns that carry the plane (because the turning js shit)

  • @ccramit
    @ccramit 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kind of filter are you using? There's like this glow everywhere in your video.

  • @kennethworkman4740
    @kennethworkman4740 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not if you know about flying planes and engines you will do great no plane is bad in warthunder its the piolet

  • @Austenthor
    @Austenthor 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Day 3 of recommending V-156-BI rank 1 in the British tree

  • @tuskplayz2819
    @tuskplayz2819 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No its my favourite one you have to play it right i have a total of 500 kills with it

  • @haydenagnew
    @haydenagnew 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only problem with this that i have is the stock guns i just get hits or sparks

  • @KA-jm2cz
    @KA-jm2cz 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel that thug gang so disgusting that I am unable to play them.
    Yak

  • @nivocz769
    @nivocz769 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    oh boi that sure was... a plane... with guns... and an engine

  • @barlosxantana
    @barlosxantana 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Contender for worst plane in the game for its BR rating

  • @hernes0071
    @hernes0071 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    and For some odd reasons i do really well in that aircraft.

  • @gillesmaesii7752
    @gillesmaesii7752 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Day 2 of asking WeBe to fly the B-29A-BN

  • @historyrevisited1803
    @historyrevisited1803 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It literally has an HE-111 engine

    • @WeBeStronk
      @WeBeStronk  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That explains why it's so underpowered!

    • @KauppaKomissaari
      @KauppaKomissaari 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@WeBeStronk also its heavier it literally climbs worse than a 109e4

  • @maxpopkov1432
    @maxpopkov1432 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Day 11 of asking WeBe to play the La-5

  • @patriklenck1735
    @patriklenck1735 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried this a few days back, it really underperforms, even the turntime is significantly worse then for Example the F4 or G6 at around 24sec spaded. No real Gunpower, no real Climbrate, no good turnrate, its just really underwhelming. And the worst Thing is you have to play this forever to Progress in the techtree, normally you would fly a 3.3 plane for Like 15-20k.exp Max but in the Israel techtree the next Thing is the P51 wich is Like 54k exp wich Sets you Up to play this flying cripple seemingly forever.😢

  • @squad-wh4ig
    @squad-wh4ig 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The engine is from a he111 bomber

  • @Valraun7836
    @Valraun7836 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate to do this but “early” sorry.

  • @piratekingcypto6506
    @piratekingcypto6506 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Day 2 of asking for a kikka video

  • @shadowgames140
    @shadowgames140 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also within the first hour woo

  • @tomaskoupil5994
    @tomaskoupil5994 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MAC, no 20mm and IAI belts for 13mm are necessary to make it somehow perform as a fighter. And never go vertical

  • @xXRwWebb
    @xXRwWebb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always go through stages of playing war thunder. I play it for like 3-4 days straight, then stop, then I see you upload a video and end up back on it 😂

  • @janwitkowsky8787
    @janwitkowsky8787 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actually one of my preferred 109 variants.
    It fits my random playstyle more than the "pure" 109s.

  • @That_british_crumpet
    @That_british_crumpet 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @WeBeStronk what is your favourite British aircraft? I quite like the swift

  • @clipswitha
    @clipswitha 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    first

  • @cabelas777
    @cabelas777 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you see the x-ray view while flying?

    • @liamboyle9199
      @liamboyle9199 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Default is 'o'

  • @shadowgames140
    @shadowgames140 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You need to make a video on the first spitfire

  • @Valraun7836
    @Valraun7836 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And to you Webe. You are my comfort creator

    • @WeBeStronk
      @WeBeStronk  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad to be of service!

  • @TinyBearTim
    @TinyBearTim 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s worse than the 162