The skill-capped videos have been amazing for wrath classic! Looking forward to your shadow priest specific video, I can’t find anyone playing it except maybe Stahp and Anboni but both are pretty hit or miss
Can someone give some tips for pally / war vs double dps caster teams? Setups like boomkin / ele shammy etc. have been extremely difficult to deal with.
3 months later after the season ended and this list was not wrong at all. Feels like everything was scored/ranked perfectly lol. EDIT: Waiting for the S6 tier list now :)
Their sp guides are notoriously lacking. They were practically abandoned after they fell off meta in SL, so I doubt they will get proper treatment in wrath/DF.
Wrong in both accounts. Both are heavily gear dependant specs. ESPECIALLY destro. Against other low res targets, yah an ubdergrared destro can blow someone up. But against targets with resil? Ur chaos bolts tickle, and that’s even if ur innovate doesn’t get dispelled
I thought FERAL/ROGUE was like at least A tier, specially in S5 where resil is Still low… deadly setups, nasty burst… Also, there are some ROGUE/DK comps REALLY high rated in some private servers.
the thing about comps is ... if its good against 50% of comps but rly bad against the other 50% ... the comp is gonna be trash. and on the example of feral+rogue .. its garbage against the #1 toptier hpally+ms the most played comp of em all
Overal retri benefits very little from 2h, since main source of dmg is seals and judgement that scale from AP only. With shield you get 1 more DPS button (shield of righteousness) that actually hits pretty hard. Other obvious benefits are increased survivalibility against physical DPS ofc.
i thuoght sub rogue shadow priest had much more than a 13 sec cc window... What about sap > fear> silence > psychic horror> gouge > blind> full sap again
Wow seriously not a single mention to the comp destro lock - frost mage? This is top tier comp, very few to none can counter that if played properly. Also there are other comps that synergize very well and you didn't even mention them.
Your not going to see that comp whatsoever in season5… the lack of haste gear makes mages awful. Disc priest feral Druid is by far the best comp in 2s for season 5. Enhancement rogue and enhancement preg is broken too.
Did you count Ret/Frostmage not in because it’s for the later seasons, or did you forget about it? You said B Tier is chaotic and not so consistent, but Ret Frostmage is pretty strong and relies on control and lockdown. And it’s insanely strong
I assume FERAL + DISC is in S + tier that's not in the video since its not in S tier right? That comp is bullshit EDIT : nvm I made a comment before i saw A tier...that comp is so dumb
Any half decent team with mortal strike will shut that down with pressure. Mage rogue? Reset on kidney dr, and cross cc on the Druid, and keep doing so until they run out of cd’s. Warrior pally? Constant pressure with mortal strike while pally lines cc. The healers will oom, or a kill opportunity will present itself. Pretty much any good double dps or healer dps comp will absolutely body a double healer comp
Friendly reminder to us SL guys looking for something to do before DF… all the scumbag tactics in trade and auction house are back in effect. Don’t just click and buy. Thank me later.
@@stormskye3578 Not about if you care, they asked us to comment. Even if I don't like the expansion I like how SC breaks the info down for people. It's called an opinion lol.
@@bigbobam8857 "its called an opinion" proceeds to make an objective statement in "wrath sucked". Include "i think" or "in my opinion" if you want to not get called out for dumb comments.
@@raffydoe Ret paladin with casters hitting for 5k ice lance and 12k with lava burst etc. The bgs people get wiped out in seconds. The game is unbalanced af.
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no shadow priest movies yet
Why hunter+rdruid is not a thing? What is nonsynergetic about them?
The skill-capped videos have been amazing for wrath classic! Looking forward to your shadow priest specific video, I can’t find anyone playing it except maybe Stahp and Anboni but both are pretty hit or miss
check out Hozitojones. he is a rank1 player and said he will play a shadow and a healpala in wotlk as mains. he already has shadow footage uploaded
@@johng2794 thank you! Those are my two mains this expac as well, so that’s awesome.
Prove it.
@@PULAG prove it
"Every specc has its own A-Tier spot!" - Cries in Moonkin
Moonkin is core raid member now
Moonkin is good lol. You have to play like aggressive healer
Play double moonkin lol
Wotlk Rogue-mage will always be art
imho absolutely counters warr-hpala
"One handed ret-paladin" Give Preg his credit!! The spec is named after him
Is preg really pve gear reliant ?
@@goldenmemes51 It is you need pve shield spell power weapon and some crazy trinkets to do proper dmg
@@alejandroferrer7128 Its also unplayble vs casters
@@jeremyrowe8224 umm the complete opposite. It crushed casters. Doesn’t take any damage. Hard to cc. Preg is great against melee and casters.
@@hamm8934 absolutely wrong. It struggles against casters. That's why it's good with enhance. Enhance is good into casters.
What about Arms Warrior/Disc Priest? I had best experience in 2s playing that long time ago. I see that nobody is mentioning that combo
I just started playing destro lock pvp and this channel is top tier. Thanks
I made my Hpal Lv70 before Wotlk start. but a friend of mine told me that Warlock was very good and made me play it.
I'm 40lv Warlock now.
The best class is the one you feel most comfortable with.
bro rogue is good.. go play it
go back to holy pala, or u will get smashed by overpopular melee classes... warlocks lacks a lot actually in dk/warr meta
Warlock is good, but this expasion is full of dks, and they crush you easliy
Ret+MM and Feral+Disc should be on S
Warlocks were one of the most powerful PvP classes in vanilla and TBC. I feel that in Wotlk they are significantly weaker but that's life.
Can someone give some tips for pally / war vs double dps caster teams? Setups like boomkin / ele shammy etc. have been extremely difficult to deal with.
pray you're not at blade's edge.
Does the feral druids in this video have twitch ? Can u link ?
what happened to ret mage ? :D
3 months later after the season ended and this list was not wrong at all. Feels like everything was scored/ranked perfectly lol.
EDIT: Waiting for the S6 tier list now :)
Are there SPriest arena guides on Skilled-Capped ? If yes I will for sure sub
Id like to know that too
Their sp guides are notoriously lacking. They were practically abandoned after they fell off meta in SL, so I doubt they will get proper treatment in wrath/DF.
@@rationalcoder Really sad to hear that. They should do guides for all specs no matter how viable they are.
SP are faking broken.
Isn’t Resto Druid/ Destro really strong early on? Like S tier or close? Both specs do well without insane gear.
Wrong in both accounts. Both are heavily gear dependant specs. ESPECIALLY destro.
Against other low res targets, yah an ubdergrared destro can blow someone up.
But against targets with resil? Ur chaos bolts tickle, and that’s even if ur innovate doesn’t get dispelled
Why hunter+rdruid is not a thing? What is nonsynergetic about them?
Going to run Hpriest/BloodDK
I thought FERAL/ROGUE was like at least A tier, specially in S5 where resil is Still low… deadly setups, nasty burst…
Also, there are some ROGUE/DK comps REALLY high rated in some private servers.
Yeah double rogue is also very very good in s5
the thing about comps is ... if its good against 50% of comps but rly bad against the other 50% ... the comp is gonna be trash.
and on the example of feral+rogue .. its garbage against the #1 toptier hpally+ms the most played comp of em all
No ret hunter in S tier?
I was looking for this comp aswell.
What about ele + sub. Is that anywhere viable?
wasnt rogue priest in s tier? then talking bout them in a tier? i didnt understand that
Said two feral druid comps and then only said feral/disc priest... whats the other one??
Feral/sub maybe - stealth cleave
When I was young when lk came out i solo dk and druid as ret pala xD remember kids wanted to teak photo with me ^^ good old days hehe
Hey, what about unholy dk + resto druid? Thanks! 😊
resto druid will just get trained and dk can't help much re cc
What is the benefit going 1h ret? I can't find any videos or guides about it
Overal retri benefits very little from 2h, since main source of dmg is seals and judgement that scale from AP only. With shield you get 1 more DPS button (shield of righteousness) that actually hits pretty hard. Other obvious benefits are increased survivalibility against physical DPS ofc.
i play enha+disc and it pretty good
Is it possible to do well as feral and elemental shaman?
i thuoght sub rogue shadow priest had much more than a 13 sec cc window... What about sap > fear> silence > psychic horror> gouge > blind> full sap again
13 sec on kill target
no ret hunter? no lock/sham? we missed a couple here
They did mention ret and hunter. 5:40
Both of these comps appear in the A tier at 10:25.
Whats ur thoughts on Enhance + Rogue in 2s ?? I thought it is a tier atleast xD
So ret feral is good aye?
What tier is scooby doo (ret-rogue)
We're playing Ret Pally and Shadow Priest in 2vs2 :)
Could have swore you originally mention destro ele as a 2s comp but didn’t mention it here at all. 😢
10:25, bottom right corner. Elemental Shaman + Destro Warlock in the A tier.
@@skillcappedwowpvp that’s what I get for trying to listen while working. Thanks for your time I really appreciate it!
Why spriest/rogue won’t Stier
Best comp is the one where both you and your friends play the specs you enjoy and you try to push as far as possible.. stop min-maxing for a second
I mean sure but losing isn’t fun lol
That's just not true. Best =/ most fun
it is also a number game. need to have good gear
“Losing aint fun” you will quickly climb to your skill level mmr and lose half your games regardless of the comp you play.
@@znj1963 for the most part in wrath, if you’re losing, there are bigger problems than your comp
0:55 we work together with the bestest of the best but wont name a single one :DD
Where is spriest/rogue?
Why no guides for all specs?
Wow seriously not a single mention to the comp destro lock - frost mage? This is top tier comp, very few to none can counter that if played properly. Also there are other comps that synergize very well and you didn't even mention them.
Your not going to see that comp whatsoever in season5… the lack of haste gear makes mages awful. Disc priest feral Druid is by far the best comp in 2s for season 5. Enhancement rogue and enhancement preg is broken too.
Dont know how frost mage - disc priest aint S tier.
Let's get that preg spec goingggggg
Arms+Disc?
Did you count Ret/Frostmage not in because it’s for the later seasons, or did you forget about it? You said B Tier is chaotic and not so consistent, but Ret Frostmage is pretty strong and relies on control and lockdown. And it’s insanely strong
ret mage is mediocre at best. Every other traditional comp outclasses it.
Ui addons interface dk link ?
Warlock DEMO + shaman? Didnt see any demo warlock higher than 1900mmr
Shadow priest/frost mage should be S tier instead of DK/H. pala :x
Yes it should be but that duo needs to be expetional good and DK/pala is a brain dead duo
frost mage marksman ?
no jungle?
If you see ciqo and pshero combo play? You really won’t care which is the best, because they are
damn i dont see my ret/mage comp xD
He talks about season 5 but shows items that fall in Icecriwn Citadel and RS
HOW DO U PUT WARRIOR S5 IN S TIER FOR 2V2 WTF
Well I am looking to play with a partner! Lost mine... Hpally LFG
Destro / Rogue inc
I think the top 2s comp back then was mage/priest
Thought it was HPal/War?
@@iblisellis7114 nah mage/priest countered us pretty hard in wotlk
@@romascopa8461 one of the only counters and it was closer to 60/40. It felt bad in S8 with shadowmourne though lol
@@romascopa8461 how exactly? paladin has blessing of freedom. what stops the paladin war from running the priest down?
@@Xxhermitxxrs sheep, mind control, fear, mana burns, frost spell galore. I can't remember if it was arcane or frost, so long ago.
preg ench not s tiers ? lol
Ele sham disc is better than ele Holy paladin. It's also a tier.
Not me thinking Lock => warrior was a good setup to =|
I assume FERAL + DISC is in S + tier that's not in the video since its not in S tier right? That comp is bullshit
EDIT : nvm I made a comment before i saw A tier...that comp is so dumb
This video is basically: physical damage rules, spell power meh
how is warr / hpala top tier in season 5?? yall been playing too much season 8.. and you dont even mention rsham / feral or feral / rogue
do you have wotlk pvp teaching going on, i dont care about cataclism, ust wotlk on Warmane.
Non double rogue noob ?
A war and h Pala, say no more!
Im gonna play feral+sub whith my friend.
Definately bringing back the disc priest/resto druid combo. Heal for days then stun fear burst. Rinse and repeat until they die or they quit 😁
Any half decent team with mortal strike will shut that down with pressure.
Mage rogue? Reset on kidney dr, and cross cc on the Druid, and keep doing so until they run out of cd’s.
Warrior pally? Constant pressure with mortal strike while pally lines cc.
The healers will oom, or a kill opportunity will present itself.
Pretty much any good double dps or healer dps comp will absolutely body a double healer comp
Lol you dont even mention frost and destro team
Friendly reminder to us SL guys looking for something to do before DF… all the scumbag tactics in trade and auction house are back in effect. Don’t just click and buy. Thank me later.
... i had to pick druid
Hm this isn’t looking good. Plus, I’m gay.
Shadow/Unholy who easy top
I went 2.4k+ on 2s and 2.1k on 3s multiple times as frost dk with hpal on final phase wrath lol
This video is so bad it's hilarious
Fucking give us season 4 retail rankings.
brain dead classes make s tier comps. well i never
pretty inaccurate video
first!@
Don't bother PVPing in classic WOTLK if you don't have time to raid.
Raids are puggable. That helps people who can’t commit to a schedule.
None, because Wrath sucked. Won't be dipping into Classic till Cata comes out.
we care because?
Why did he even bother to write a comment when he does not care for wrath lol
@@stormskye3578 Not about if you care, they asked us to comment. Even if I don't like the expansion I like how SC breaks the info down for people. It's called an opinion lol.
@@Starplaya Because they asked us too. I'm a fan of SC even if they are covering something I'm not a fan of.
@@bigbobam8857 "its called an opinion" proceeds to make an objective statement in "wrath sucked". Include "i think" or "in my opinion" if you want to not get called out for dumb comments.
I was excited for pvp but I just get 1-shot in bgs. It's so unbalanced it's a joke.
Cuz ur not geared, there is no boosting ilvl system in wotlk like in modern expansions, if ur not geared u can be one shotted
definitely 0 resilience as a cloth caster
@@gladcomming Bro warlocks hit for 12k let's say we half the damage with full pvp gear. That's still 6k and you're dead in 3 hits LOL
@@raffydoe Ret paladin with casters hitting for 5k ice lance and 12k with lava burst etc. The bgs people get wiped out in seconds. The game is unbalanced af.
Dude what are you talking about? It's balanced until Shadowmourne and ICC trinkets. Learn to play and stop whining.