tilting the tool will give you an inaccurate impression of the pin depths. You put it into the lock straight and vertical, then you turn it right and left (no tilting) while applying pressure, until it opens.
You are tightening the tool way too much. Slacken the nut off so the feelers are free to move. Then tighten the nut slightly, you should still be able to move the feelers by hand.. Insert into the lock keeping it straight. Do not rock, tilt or jiggle.... Simply press the pick into the lock, hold it in while twisting left n right gently. Once picked, you tighten the feelers a bit tighter.
***** Thanks. The first time (and only time until I got these tools yesterday) I had gotten to use one before was when I had to do sales demos at a conference a few months ago. Once you get the basic techniques down they are pretty forgiving tools.
You might get lucky, but most of the time they will not. The ACE II uses various techniques including tapered driver pins and varying spring strengths to prevent self impressioning tools like these from working most of the time.
im not sure what or how the key is called i have a slot machine that the keyway is vertical (ive lost the key to it ) the key is impressioned on both sides of the key like a router style cut what is that type of key called and what type of pick would you use to open it
With a tubular lock you can see all of the pin stacks (the keyway is the open circle and the tips of the pins all protrude into the keyway) so you can simply look and count. The 4 standard arrangements are 7-pin centered (7 pins with the index notch taking an 8th position), 7 pin offset (the 7 pins are in a different configuration relative to the index notch but the spacing remains the same), 8 pin (8 pins spaced similarly to the 7 pin but fills the empty space, the index notch is between two pins), and finally 10 pins (10 pin locks are usually a larger diameter than 7 and 8 pin locks). Some manufacturers make 'convertable' pick tools which can be configured to fit the 3 common configurations of 7 and 8 pin tubular locks, 10 pin tubular picks are somewhat rarer and are not compatible with 7 or 8 pin tubular locks.
+Charles Nunnally It sounds like you need to increase the tension on your pick. If you have a tool similar to the Southern Specialties tool I demonstrated, tighten the retaining nut as much as possible then loosen it no more than a quarter turn, try it and then adjust looser or tighter in very small increments. If you have a tool similar to the Chinese picks I showed, they usually come with a small allen wrench to adjust the tension ring, and a set of small rubber bands, to increase tension, add a rubber band and use the allen wrench to tighten the retaining ring. Lick the Southern Specialties tool, tighten it as much as you can then loosen it very slightly and test it, then make very small adjustments until it works. Some tubular locks are simply very badly made and may present an extra challenge. I would suggest practicing with one that functions smoothly (FJM Security Products has some good ones for sale on Amazon that make good training locks) before attempting one that offers the extra challenge.
Locked myself out of my safe and I've watched so many videos. Finally got it open after watching yours. Thanks a bunch! Great video!
Thank you for showing things not working perfectly. This shows that my experience of these Chinese tools is not just me!
tilting the tool will give you an inaccurate impression of the pin depths. You put it into the lock straight and vertical, then you turn it right and left (no tilting) while applying pressure, until it opens.
Yes, that's also what worked for me.
Check the bottom of the Huck box under the foam. Sometimes the indexing pins can be found there
The rubber bands supply the tension.. not the locking stop ring..if there's to much tension roll a rubber band off.
You are tightening the tool way too much. Slacken the nut off so the feelers are free to move. Then tighten the nut slightly, you should still be able to move the feelers by hand.. Insert into the lock keeping it straight. Do not rock, tilt or jiggle....
Simply press the pick into the lock, hold it in while twisting left n right gently. Once picked, you tighten the feelers a bit tighter.
Great video. I've only had the chance to use a tubular pick a couple of times.
***** Thanks. The first time (and only time until I got these tools yesterday) I had gotten to use one before was when I had to do sales demos at a conference a few months ago. Once you get the basic techniques down they are pretty forgiving tools.
Can u mold the inside of tubular lock and make a key
Nice picking !
Will the southern specialties open an Ace II?
You might get lucky, but most of the time they will not. The ACE II uses various techniques including tapered driver pins and varying spring strengths to prevent self impressioning tools like these from working most of the time.
im not sure what or how the key is called i have a slot machine that the keyway is vertical (ive lost the key to it ) the key is impressioned on both sides of the key like a router style cut what is that type of key called and what type of pick would you use to open it
How do you tell if it is a 8-10pin?
With a tubular lock you can see all of the pin stacks (the keyway is the open circle and the tips of the pins all protrude into the keyway) so you can simply look and count. The 4 standard arrangements are 7-pin centered (7 pins with the index notch taking an 8th position), 7 pin offset (the 7 pins are in a different configuration relative to the index notch but the spacing remains the same), 8 pin (8 pins spaced similarly to the 7 pin but fills the empty space, the index notch is between two pins), and finally 10 pins (10 pin locks are usually a larger diameter than 7 and 8 pin locks). Some manufacturers make 'convertable' pick tools which can be configured to fit the 3 common configurations of 7 and 8 pin tubular locks, 10 pin tubular picks are somewhat rarer and are not compatible with 7 or 8 pin tubular locks.
every time i try to use it put in the lock the pin slide back in the holder it act like it is to tight do you have any answer
+Charles Nunnally It sounds like you need to increase the tension on your pick. If you have a tool similar to the Southern Specialties tool I demonstrated, tighten the retaining nut as much as possible then loosen it no more than a quarter turn, try it and then adjust looser or tighter in very small increments.
If you have a tool similar to the Chinese picks I showed, they usually come with a small allen wrench to adjust the tension ring, and a set of small rubber bands, to increase tension, add a rubber band and use the allen wrench to tighten the retaining ring. Lick the Southern Specialties tool, tighten it as much as you can then loosen it very slightly and test it, then make very small adjustments until it works.
Some tubular locks are simply very badly made and may present an extra challenge. I would suggest practicing with one that functions smoothly (FJM Security Products has some good ones for sale on Amazon that make good training locks) before attempting one that offers the extra challenge.
Too tight !!!!!!
11min.
..... you're welcome.
The chinese ones DO have pins. You just didn't install them.