Hi, Ali! Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you have a great TMB -- and if you have any other questions about planning for your trip before you go, let me know and I'd be happy to try to answer them!
Excellent video. Probably the best one I’ve watched about preparing for the TMB. And the guy with the comment about the tennis shoes should lighten up.
Hi Hank, Loved your video! It was super helpful. Does your base weight of 10lbs include the weight of water? How much water would you suggest carrying at a time in between refill stations? I have a 2L bladder and not sure how much water to carry and how often there will be an opportunity to refill. Thanks!
Great video Hank, super informative! Planning to do the hike next summer, do the owners of the Refuges speak english? Any areas where it would be good to know a few phrases of french or italian? Thank you!
Hi! Yes, for the most part they speak English well enough to conduct basic business with them. If you want to learn a few things, it can help to know things like "Do you have any beds free?" "How much does a bed and dinner cost?" "How much does a packed lunch cost?" "Where's the bathroom?" "Where is and what time will dinner be served?" How many hours is the walk to the next refugio/town?" Etc.
what time of the year did u go here? i hate humans (nothing personal) so i liked how remote and calm it seemed, compared to the hiking season of the year (around august) thnks. great video! great vibe, cool people! keep goin, never give up < 3 EDIT: the cactus thing killed me
Hank, how well marked is the Mont Blanc? Do you need a map or GPS? And also, how did you plan your route and what site did you use to book your accommodation ahead? Thanks
The hike is very well marked -- you can definitely do it without a GPS device, but you should always carry a map in case something goes wrong. We used the Kev Reynolds Tour of Mont Blanc guide to help use plan our trip, and the www.autourdumontblanc.com/en/ site to book accommodations.
hi there! will be hiking the TMB for the first time this June. i’m wondering how many layers i should pack since it’s a summer month, but i know you mentioned it got colder up in the mountains. i also don’t want to overpack extra warm layers if it’s not needed? what time of year were you there for this trip?
hi karina :) we did this trip at the beginning of september. in june, i'd expect to see temps 48F - 68F (9C - 20C) in Les Houches (where most people start), as shown here: www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/climatemodelled/les-houches_france_3000622. but Les Houches is at 3,300 feet, and there's a rule that temperature goes up 3.5F (2C) with each 1000 feet of elevation gain. since the highest point on the TMB is 8,300 feet, you might see temperatures 30F - 50F (-1C - 10C) when high up in the mountains. so, last piece of advice, most people rarely get cold WHILE hiking (unless the weather is very bad), but you should layer-up the moment you stop, because that's when your body cools down. so i'd bring a very warm jacket to throw on if you stop at high elevation and it's like 30F outside!
Hey Hank, Thanks for the vids - excellent, excellent work! Not including flights and equipment, what was the cost per person for the 11 days on mont blanc? Regards
Hi, Kyle! So glad you liked the video! I'd estimate about €60 per day (€50 for lodging with dinner and breakfast, plus €10 for lunch), which is about €720 total. You'll spend more money if you stay in any hotels instead of staying in refugios. You can save money by bringing/making your own food and buying groceries so you're not buying meals at refugios (especially your own lunch food). You can save even more money by camping instead of staying in refugios. Also don't forget to include the cost for transportation (we took a shared shuttle) to and from the airport. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, let me know!
Hi guys, very informative, did you find it ok to just arrive at refuges or need to book in advance..(not a fan of highly organised trips, like flexibility), generally not fylly booked? Cheers andy
Unfortunately, for the TMB trip, we booked nearly everything in advance because it's a very popular trip and a lot of the refugios get filled. It is likely possible to try to do this trip without bookings on the fly, but you may find yourself heading to alternate stop points/towns and possibly needing to camp if you can't find a place to stay. -Hank
Hi, Steve! Yes, in all of the towns you go through along the way (Les Contamines, Courmayeur, etc.) you can buy groceries, food, and batteries. There's also more than a few outdoors gear/clothing stores (we bought hiking boots and an Arcteryx rain jacket for Parker along the way). I didn't look for canister gas myself, but I assume that it's sold in all the towns too because the whole area is a camping/outdoors destination. But you might want to call a store ahead to make sure they carry the kind of gas you want.
Crampons were unnecessary for the conditions we had (we hiked in September). However, I know that the end of June is only just the beginning of the season and there has been a lot of snow this year, so it's very conditions-dependent. You may want to call a refugio at one of the higher elevations to see if they think they're necessary. Hope that helps.
Great work! Thank you so much for taking us your journey! We have similar incidents. I fracture femur in Jan. 2018. I hiked northerneast over 4000 footer which is 115 mountains. Now i am planning to hike TMB in September 7th till 21st. I watched your report three times...i am aware it gets cold so i will being my puffy jacket. Hope i could make reservations now for the refugios. Can you give me advise? Anything. I will be hiking solo. I am thinking opposite what you did, hiking leg gets stronger toward to end and to do harder ones at the end. What do you think?
Sorry to hear about your leg! You can try using the website www.montourdumontblanc.com/uk/ to help you plan your route and book accommodations online. It's super helpful. As for which direction to watch, I think both ways are probably about the same level of difficulty. You may find that your route plan is more likely to be dictated by refugio availability.
whoops. the other video where we actually do this hike correctly says "highest mountain in Western Europe" but I definitely forgot to say "Western" when I made this packing list video. glad you liked it though!
@@HankLeukart going June 15 for 2 weeks. I'm nervous that's too early. Do you know of any good trail reports. Any suggestions i.e booking accommodations.
@Steve Novack Hi, Steve. Usually, the end of June is considered the earliest time to start that will give you snow-free trails, but it depends on the snowpack that year. I know that there's still plenty of snow right now (end of May) but you should check in on the TMB Facebook group or call a refugio to inquire about conditions when it's closer to your departure date. This website www.montourdumontblanc.com/uk/ helps you plan your route and book accommodations online. It's super helpful.
Yeah, our video has a lot of extra useful information beyond just the packing list. But, you can fast forward to any of the items in the video easily just by looking at the topic list on the right side of the video. Also, the full list of items is listed in text in the description box below the video. Hope that helps!
Good question! Two things: 1) Doing the TMB in lightweight trail-runners is not necessarily a bad idea: it's easier on your feet, and having the lightest shoes possible always makes a big difference for stamina. Most long-distance thru-hikers these days (on the PCT, AT, etc.) wear super light trail-runners for those reasons. Parker mostly only ran into trouble with her shoes because we did the _side trip_ to Refugio Robert Blanc, which has some extremely steep and slippery mountain passes to go over (it's significantly more challenging than the primary TMB trail). That said, shoes with more traction CAN make a difference on the TMB -- if you expect to encounter snow (which we did). 2) Anyway, taking advice from her makes sense, because she's a person who made a mistake (none of us really knew how intense the Robert Blanc route would be), but she learned from it, and is now passing on that valuable info to others.
Tennis shoes and trail runners are completely different. Trail runners have similar sole tread patterns as hiking boots. Tennis shoes should not be worn on any hiking trip.
Haha, Parker suggests bringing some of your own food and making sure you do some of your own shopping at grocery stores along the way when available. She says most of the vegetarian food she was served at the refugios was egg- and cheese-centric. The progressive US West Coast is, even in 2019, much more accommodating to vegans than even Western Europe -- though it's true that this TMB is somewhat rural. I imagine vegans can do just fine in Paris.
Thanks Hank for this great video and sharing your experience. We will start our TMB beginning of August. Your insights helped a lot.
Hi, Ali! Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you have a great TMB -- and if you have any other questions about planning for your trip before you go, let me know and I'd be happy to try to answer them!
Thanks so much for the video. Planning to do TMB next year and had no idea about what to pack. Now I get some ideas. The video is of great help.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! If you have any other questions, please let me know. I hope your TMB is great!
Excellent video. Probably the best one I’ve watched about preparing for the TMB. And the guy with the comment about the tennis shoes should lighten up.
Thanks hank for that video and gear advice. Excited to start my TMB next week!
Glad you liked it, Pierre! I hope your TMB goes well. If you have any questions about the trip, let me know!
Hi Hank,
Loved your video! It was super helpful. Does your base weight of 10lbs include the weight of water? How much water would you suggest carrying at a time in between refill stations? I have a 2L bladder and not sure how much water to carry and how often there will be an opportunity to refill. Thanks!
Very detailed advice thank you🥾🥾
thanks for the visit
Thank you i will follow yours.
Hi! Did you book accomodation in advance, or can you book it while you are on the trail?
we booked in advance because of the refugios get sold out
Thanks for the great vid! Could you tell me if you packed a towel of some sort for showering in the huts at night? thanks!
Yes, I had a small microfiber towel (maybe a half-sized towel) with me just to dry off.
Great video Hank, super informative! Planning to do the hike next summer, do the owners of the Refuges speak english? Any areas where it would be good to know a few phrases of french or italian? Thank you!
Hi! Yes, for the most part they speak English well enough to conduct basic business with them. If you want to learn a few things, it can help to know things like "Do you have any beds free?" "How much does a bed and dinner cost?" "How much does a packed lunch cost?" "Where's the bathroom?" "Where is and what time will dinner be served?" How many hours is the walk to the next refugio/town?" Etc.
what time of the year did u go here? i hate humans (nothing personal) so i liked how remote and calm it seemed, compared to the hiking season of the year (around august) thnks. great video! great vibe, cool people! keep goin, never give up < 3 EDIT: the cactus thing killed me
this was at the end of august -- there were plenty of people i assure you
Hank, how well marked is the Mont Blanc? Do you need a map or GPS? And also, how did you plan your route and what site did you use to book your accommodation ahead? Thanks
The hike is very well marked -- you can definitely do it without a GPS device, but you should always carry a map in case something goes wrong. We used the Kev Reynolds Tour of Mont Blanc guide to help use plan our trip, and the www.autourdumontblanc.com/en/ site to book accommodations.
What time of year did you go? Thanks
beginning of september
hi there! will be hiking the TMB for the first time this June. i’m wondering how many layers i should pack since it’s a summer month, but i know you mentioned it got colder up in the mountains. i also don’t want to overpack extra warm layers if it’s not needed? what time of year were you there for this trip?
hi karina :) we did this trip at the beginning of september. in june, i'd expect to see temps 48F - 68F (9C - 20C) in Les Houches (where most people start), as shown here: www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/historyclimate/climatemodelled/les-houches_france_3000622. but Les Houches is at 3,300 feet, and there's a rule that temperature goes up 3.5F (2C) with each 1000 feet of elevation gain. since the highest point on the TMB is 8,300 feet, you might see temperatures 30F - 50F (-1C - 10C) when high up in the mountains. so, last piece of advice, most people rarely get cold WHILE hiking (unless the weather is very bad), but you should layer-up the moment you stop, because that's when your body cools down. so i'd bring a very warm jacket to throw on if you stop at high elevation and it's like 30F outside!
Hey Hank,
Thanks for the vids - excellent, excellent work!
Not including flights and equipment, what was the cost per person for the 11 days on mont blanc?
Regards
Hi, Kyle! So glad you liked the video! I'd estimate about €60 per day (€50 for lodging with dinner and breakfast, plus €10 for lunch), which is about €720 total. You'll spend more money if you stay in any hotels instead of staying in refugios. You can save money by bringing/making your own food and buying groceries so you're not buying meals at refugios (especially your own lunch food). You can save even more money by camping instead of staying in refugios. Also don't forget to include the cost for transportation (we took a shared shuttle) to and from the airport. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, let me know!
Hi guys, very informative, did you find it ok to just arrive at refuges or need to book in advance..(not a fan of highly organised trips, like flexibility), generally not fylly booked?
Cheers andy
Unfortunately, for the TMB trip, we booked nearly everything in advance because it's a very popular trip and a lot of the refugios get filled. It is likely possible to try to do this trip without bookings on the fly, but you may find yourself heading to alternate stop points/towns and possibly needing to camp if you can't find a place to stay. -Hank
Thank you for making this video! What refuge were you staying in at 4:10?
That's Refugio Robert Blanc. You can see our entire hike to that Refugio in our TMB trip video: th-cam.com/video/LpDIdJEAouk/w-d-xo.html
Are there places to get backpacking supplies. I.e canister gas, batteries trail food and etc.
Hi, Steve! Yes, in all of the towns you go through along the way (Les Contamines, Courmayeur, etc.) you can buy groceries, food, and batteries. There's also more than a few outdoors gear/clothing stores (we bought hiking boots and an Arcteryx rain jacket for Parker along the way). I didn't look for canister gas myself, but I assume that it's sold in all the towns too because the whole area is a camping/outdoors destination. But you might want to call a store ahead to make sure they carry the kind of gas you want.
The highest mountain in Europe is Elbrus, Caucasus
yup, I misspoke and should have said "western europe"
did you feel that you needed crampons for snow/ice? i am planning to start hike on 28 june
Crampons were unnecessary for the conditions we had (we hiked in September). However, I know that the end of June is only just the beginning of the season and there has been a lot of snow this year, so it's very conditions-dependent. You may want to call a refugio at one of the higher elevations to see if they think they're necessary. Hope that helps.
The c in blanc is silent. So you pronounce it as mont blan. It means white mountain.
Great work! Thank you so much for taking us your journey! We have similar incidents. I fracture femur in Jan. 2018. I hiked northerneast over 4000 footer which is 115 mountains. Now i am planning to hike TMB in September 7th till 21st.
I watched your report three times...i am aware it gets cold so i will being my puffy jacket. Hope i could make reservations now for the refugios. Can you give me advise? Anything. I will be hiking solo. I am thinking opposite what you did, hiking leg gets stronger toward to end and to do harder ones at the end. What do you think?
Sorry to hear about your leg! You can try using the website www.montourdumontblanc.com/uk/ to help you plan your route and book accommodations online. It's super helpful. As for which direction to watch, I think both ways are probably about the same level of difficulty. You may find that your route plan is more likely to be dictated by refugio availability.
Did you stumble upon Amelia on this trip?? 😉
The viewers will never forget!
Haha, no, but it's still a fun story worth watching: th-cam.com/video/LpDIdJEAouk/w-d-xo.html
Hank Leukart I’ve been watching your Mont Blanc video to prepare for my own trip
Hope you have a great trip! If you have any planning questions, let me know
Fun video. Mt. Blanc isn't the highest mountain in Europe.
whoops. the other video where we actually do this hike correctly says "highest mountain in Western Europe" but I definitely forgot to say "Western" when I made this packing list video. glad you liked it though!
What dates did you hike
September 2 - 16
@@HankLeukart going June 15 for 2 weeks. I'm nervous that's too early. Do you know of any good trail reports. Any suggestions i.e booking accommodations.
@Steve Novack Hi, Steve. Usually, the end of June is considered the earliest time to start that will give you snow-free trails, but it depends on the snowpack that year. I know that there's still plenty of snow right now (end of May) but you should check in on the TMB Facebook group or call a refugio to inquire about conditions when it's closer to your departure date. This website www.montourdumontblanc.com/uk/ helps you plan your route and book accommodations online. It's super helpful.
I patiently watched the 1st five minutes, still didn’t see a single item. Give up.
Yeah, our video has a lot of extra useful information beyond just the packing list. But, you can fast forward to any of the items in the video easily just by looking at the topic list on the right side of the video. Also, the full list of items is listed in text in the description box below the video. Hope that helps!
No lube ? Come on now
how can someone who took 'tennis shoes' on the tour du mont blanc be advising people on equipment?
Good question! Two things: 1) Doing the TMB in lightweight trail-runners is not necessarily a bad idea: it's easier on your feet, and having the lightest shoes possible always makes a big difference for stamina. Most long-distance thru-hikers these days (on the PCT, AT, etc.) wear super light trail-runners for those reasons. Parker mostly only ran into trouble with her shoes because we did the _side trip_ to Refugio Robert Blanc, which has some extremely steep and slippery mountain passes to go over (it's significantly more challenging than the primary TMB trail). That said, shoes with more traction CAN make a difference on the TMB -- if you expect to encounter snow (which we did). 2) Anyway, taking advice from her makes sense, because she's a person who made a mistake (none of us really knew how intense the Robert Blanc route would be), but she learned from it, and is now passing on that valuable info to others.
Stfu Amy
Tennis shoes and trail runners are completely different. Trail runners have similar sole tread patterns as hiking boots. Tennis shoes should not be worn on any hiking trip.
Yikes. As a vegan, I’m shook. Not sure if I’m gonna do this.
Haha, Parker suggests bringing some of your own food and making sure you do some of your own shopping at grocery stores along the way when available. She says most of the vegetarian food she was served at the refugios was egg- and cheese-centric. The progressive US West Coast is, even in 2019, much more accommodating to vegans than even Western Europe -- though it's true that this TMB is somewhat rural. I imagine vegans can do just fine in Paris.
Plenty of tuna sandwiches apparently!