China wants “to eat Russia’s lunch” as “limitless” friendship cracks grow deeper | Live from Nato
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- "China wants to eat Russia's lunch in Central Asia."
Live from the Nato Summit, George Barros, the Russia Team & Geospatial Intelligence Team Lead at the Institute for the Study of War shares his thoughts on the recent Russia strikes on Ukraine and the "limitless" relationship between Russia and China.
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Please have George on more often, he has such incredibly detailed analyses and is very good at presenting and describing them clearly and eloquently
This George or That George?
@@pauliewalnuts240Correct, perhaps we could a full break down by George by the OP.
@@pauliewalnuts240 🤦♂️
That’s my friend from college. Let’s go George 💪 #classof2018
Agreed but let him be interviewed by someone with the gravitas that he deserves not these school kids
Made in China friendship doesn't last long 😂😂😂
This was always going to have this outcome, have fun learning Cantonese and Mandarin there Russians 🤭
Russia will have to accept new geopolitical realities 🤡.
Tofu dreg friendship!
Nothing made in China these days lasts for long.
International superpower alliance from Temu.
Children’s Hospital? Maternity clinic? Mmmmm I would say that was no accident
No it’s the russian way.
It's also a clear war crime.
@@KodakcompactdiscIf that's their way; then their way is despicable and disgusting, on a human level.
@@SpartasEdge I 100% agree
Yet the beach incident wasn’t Ukraine’s fault. And the shelling of civilians in Donbas never happened. And they certainly had nothing to do with the terrorist attack on the theatre. Are you starting to see how absurd you all are? Doubtful.
China now knows that with Russia and North Korea on their team in a conflict, they're carrying that team.
China doesn't seem to like or trust North Korea very much.. China has had trouble even in Asia before!.. They are smart to be wary!!-
Kinda, they're all a bunch of bums though
Which is funny because China has never won a war against a foreign power in their very very long history
Agreed, where china should not be underestimated, they may be to an extent paper tiger. My opinion anyway, let's see what happens.
China and Russia do not have a military alliance
The thing about being a tyrant is if you seek help from other tyrants the nature of being a tyrant means only one of you is going to live.
Happens everytime. Never enough room for 2 power hungry creatures
So you means this is why USA killing Europe, because 2 tyrant can't live with each other?
It's not planet America anymore
@@des_smith7658 America saved Russia 3 times from extinction (WW1, WW2, 1990’s) but you keep blaming America for muscovite horrible roads, crumbling infrastructure, poverty, alcoholism, and all your other failures. Keep blaming America, serf.
@@des_smith7658 Is it planet putin? Do you really want that, to live under a dictator and subject to his whims? Did that work well for the followers of Hirohito, or Mussolini, or the insipid Austrian painter? Think carefully...
Given that they hit two other hospitals in the same strike. I'd say it was deliberate.
Remember the Russian missile attack on maternity hospital in Mariupol? Published: 08 December 2023 therefore by the end of 2023 there were 334 documented attacks on 267 Ukrainian healthcare facilities, with 230 facilities being damaged and 37 destroyed. General hospitals, primary care clinics, emergency departments and children’s hospitals were most frequently targeted. The majority of attacks took place during the first three months and in eastern Ukrainian oblasts. Heavy weaponry was employed in almost all attacks.
It was clearly intentional, they clustered 4 or 5 kh- 101 missiles directed at this one bldg..
Of course it was. But according to Russia, everything in Ukraine gets hit by Ukrainian armaments and everything in Russia gets hit by debris from intercepted Ukrainian armaments. All lies of course. Russia is a truly pathetic country. They've lied so much that no one will ever believe anything coming out of that terrorist state.
Like the ones carried out by Israel everyday?
@@zolamadda5980Um...yes?
The day of the strike was also a national Child's Day in Ukraine and Russia.
This attack ordered on such a day is a sign of malicious and deliberate cruelty of Pukin.
They also attacked the in-vitro clinic not far from the hospital.
Pure evil on behalf of Pukin
The pilots have been identified and will be charged with war crimes
And trump and the traitor republicans are backing Putin
@@mirekkudzia7052 do U know the root cause of this war in the first place , who caused n created this war ?
China wants to eat Russia's Siberian lunch. Resources . . . yum.
Both China and Russia has plenty of land . More land would just be pure Greed.☝😳
@@ajledbetter2197 China dont have oil and gas. Siberian is full of it
Who pays for this channel? Its clearly very biased. America is also threatening China, they cannot afford a weak Russia right now. In the very long term sure they'd love a weak Russia, but any Chinese government that is leaving Taiwan mostly independent clearly isn't confident in its powers. People don't realize that even if China threw out the communists and had a democracy they'd still want that island for a ton of reasons.
China wants outer Manchuria back from the Russians.....right after they take Taiwan back.
All that undeveloped agriculture and mineral resources that haven't been stripmined to death. China went full consumerism. xD
George Barros is a very knowledgeable interviewee! Very much worth listening!
Was about to make the same comment. Nice to see interviews with subject matter experts.
The only thing that gets him in trouble is when he talks military strategy when his team doesn't have anyone with military experience.
Otherwise, very informed and data driven
Exactly the comment I was afraid of, he’s dangerous but definitely a good weapon to have in a democracy, it’s half truths that create another reality it’s impressive to watch nonetheless the consistencies and the reaction it gives is very clever indeed
You mean a well paid western troll? LOL
@@espen2729
Manchuria is rightfully Chinese territory. China hasn't forgot this Mr. Putin.
Ya history
And then there's the rest of Siberia
The Irish feel the same way
Same as ireland hasn't forget what Britain invaded etc?
@@kevinrobb86 And there is a legal way of pursuing Irish reunification. All Russia and China can do is resort to threats and accusations of "foreign interference" in order to maintain control.
The world will look back on this war and say how senseless and wasteful it was for what will likely be no real change in the borders.
The only positive thing is russia has shown us what they really are and we’re going to have nothing to do with them for decades.
It was a senseless attempt by the US to damage Russia. Completely predictable and completely avoidable. Russia raised its security concerns about US military expansion for 30 years (NATO) prior to this event. Russia was completely ignored.. the US engineered coup in 2014 was the straw..
Russia's history of attacking civilian targets doesn't leave much room for mystery. There's no question in my mind that the children's hospital was the intended target of the attack.
its alr proven it was defense systems that deflected the rocket which was aimed at a manifacturing facility.
So, Michael, please explain why do you think Russia would attack the hospital internationally?
@@cwpv2477
Video evidence shows the missile was undamaged before hitting the target.
What air defense systems can deflect a missile in high-speed flight without damaging it ? 😂
@@romanz9342 For the same reason Russia's political elites call for the elimination of Ukraine and its culture
@@solconcordia4315 fair I havent looked that far into it will do
... have a talk with the "reasonable russians". They were all imprisoned, mate
LIMITLESS FRIENDSHIP strikes again!!
Russia is not able to outcompete China - and at some point, China wants to grow westwards.
China’s relationship with Russia is sound and China intends to expand its sphere of influence.
They appear to be expanding in every direction right now. Russia is the biggest opportunity and it won't even garner Western interference.
China want to get influance in arctics
@@mickg7299 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheMarlinspike China will always be closer to Russia than the United States, fact!
🇨🇳 knows 🇷🇺 still holding their stolen land, wouldn’t be surprised if the opportunity comes and they take it 😂😂😂 no limit friendship is only a political show
Every countries boundary will decrease or increase
It will not stay the same all the time
...... China is holding military drills on Poland's border with Belarus and Russia. Wake up.
It clearly does have its limits. China has never recognized any of Russia's annexations in Ukraine
Wasn't the the land north of the Amur lost around 1858 - 1860 and a treaty later signed? PR China retakes that land, maybe stretches a bit to include Sakhalin, Putin says "we have a treaty", and Xi responds, "and Ukraine had the Budapest Memorandum of 1994".
Yes, I remember they had a border war sometime in 1969 or the very late 60s but I was only two years old so I don’t remember it but I read about it.
George Barros, what a great dude 💯
This interview with George Barros is definitely one of the best I have seen on Times Radio, and hope to see more with this eloquent, knowledgeable and impressive gentleman.
You need to stop watching this propaganda channel for the CIA/MI6/NATO military industrial complex and start listening to prof Jeffery Sachs, John Mearsheimer and realise that we’re in a Third World War and most likely heading for nuclear annihilation.
As usual with times. Excellent video and informative and reporting. What Russia did to this children Hospital is quite disturbing and Disgusting. What goes around comes around. Keep up the great videos and reporting
George Barros is a brilliant analyst and commentator. Fantastic interview. 🇺🇦
Well worth listening to. This guy seems to know what he is talking about.
he ought to know, that would be his job
My thoughts exactly
This is the same guy that just said “Putin can’t do much”. Its these underestimations that will start world war 3. TH-cam “Scott Ritter” and watch someone that knows the reality of the situation not the propoganda the mainstream media wants you to believe.
I can’t people believe this? The media believes if they repeat a lie enough times it will become true. Xi and Putin despise the west so the enemy of my enemy is my friend. CCP was patient for 40 years and now sees the US as weak so they are emerging. We may not like it but the world order is in the process of changing.
@@jasperchance3382 "Ought to" isn't a guarantee, and some people with this job do a lot of spinning and lying. We shouldn't take it for granted when they're both knowledgeable and accurate. It's the ideal; not the norm.
This man knows and can deliver so that even less informed people should get it. First time hearing him, but hope to hear again. I wish he gets to talk more often.
less informed ppl believe him, he is not telling truth tho, he is selling his world view to you
You are so right, these are American trained and fed warpigs that deliver propaganda precisely targeting the dumbest of people. Even I am impressed like many others 😊
Better for China to invade Siberia than Taiwan. Maybe we could work out a deal there.
So true...
It is tempting to give approval to that scenario, but it reinforces what we are working against.
whether it is Russia invading Ukraine, China invading Taiwan or Russia to take Siberia.
Might can never make right if we want a civil world.
The UN, for all of its dysfunction, was founded to try and avoid countries invading each other for gains or resolution.
The world needs to act more like a dog or wolf pack. They will all turn on the disruptor to modify behavior and bring compliance and order.
@@IMGreg..While, in your "civil world", you allow Isreal to invade Palestine. So hypocritical
This isn't the 18 century. Siberia belongs to Siberians, not to the next overlord, with our blessings.
Good luck with that. Either you can have a single world government, which will only be able to enforce it's rule until it collapses under its own complexity, or you have multiple sovereign governments which can argue for the interests of different peoples. Multiple governments is a much more stable system over the long-term, but comes at the cost of occasional warfare.
George Barrios is a rare expert who is able to present his arguments clearly, succinctly and logically, being an extremely well informed and erudite interviewee. He presents facts clearly and in logical sequence - a pleasure to listen to someone who can structure a conversation and present an argument based on fact.
Great to hear his point of view - with which I thoroughly agree.
The time of choosing... This fella was extremely good. Thank you very much
They hit it multiple times. That's not a mistake.
Targetting childrens hospitals and civilian residences doesnt demoralise anyone, it just makes them angry
If North Korea sends military of any kind, then the door is opened for any other country to do the same, stop the hand wringing and help Ukraine with the defensive manpower it needs!!!
The EU gloves should be off now 😂
George Barros wasted a perfectly good opportunity to declare that China wants to drink Russia's milkshake. How disappointing!
The devil preaches to a preacher before caving his skull in with a bowling ball. Reminds me of a certain movie hmm 🤔
Great interview! Thank you both!
George Barros is an excellent spokes person for The Institute for the study of war so it’s great that the Times sent one of their heavyweight reporters to ask him questions.
Yeah, she looks as if she were 14 and didn´t find the time to remove her apron, BUt I think her questions were very much to the point
One of the most articulated and comprehensive interview that I have ever watched since the beginning of this absurd war.
One of the interviews
@@jackiemack8653 Sure it's not an university lesson. But compared to the average....
Tune-in to Silicon Curtain or Jake Broe for excellent interviews... w/o the annoying replay intro at the beginning.
@@georgek1234 I follow both since 2022. Jake has a great heart and covers up a lot of topics... S. Curtain interviews sometimes are too long, but sure he goes deep. TX 👍
my condolences then
Respect for the clearheadedness of this interviewee
Great intellect and academic depth. Enjoyable to listen to 3 times.
Ukraine in NATO 😊😊😊😊
It will never happen
@@user-oz7jn2kg5pWhatever helps you sleep at night.
@@user-oz7jn2kg5p said who? You? A rushist bot? 😂 get lost
I'm fairly certain that Ukraine do not qualify for entry into NATO until their current war is resolved. I daresay this rule was so states that find themselves under attack cannot just decide then that they want to join, and this may play out in non-NATO countries like Moldova and Georgia in the future. Unfortunately so much of the western aid to Ukraine has been delayed by political self-interest and disagreement within the supporting nations, and many Ukrainians have perished as a result, and so much of their ability to fight Russia has already been lost. The west may be losing the opportunity to 'turn this around' if there are any further delays...
it probably a 10 year journey
God save Ukraine.
F-16's that are updated and in solid bunkers.
I wish that the interview would have addressed the big issue in Russian - Chinese relations: the fact that China still has territorial claims on Russia.
One of the best interviews yet, and that says a lot because all the interviews have been excellent.
Interesting overview, with many tech details. Hopefully, the Senior policymakers will follow up with adequate moves to strengthen NATO and Ukraine (that accomplishes NATO’s main goal - protect from Russia)
Excellent interview. George Barros is well informed and he is frank with his remarks. This is my second time hearing him and he is one of the best on U Tube.
ISW is always worth a careful listen. Great interview.
Nuland family think tank? 🤣🤣🤣
@@TenylegMinekez-uc7coYou obviously prefer the detailed analysis of Solovyov.
2 years ago, NOBODY was saying that we need to blow past these red lines and give Ukraine everything it needs. Now they want to act like since day one, they were for giving everything we could
@@noahway13 WELCOME AMERICA , AT LEAST YOUR TRUE TO FORM
Mission creep
@@GrizzlyGamerUSA HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE ON THE RECEIVING END , AND I SUGGEST ITS ONLY THE THIN END OF THE STICK CHINA ,RUSSIA. INDIA ARE THE DOMINANT POWER IN THE WORLD ECONOMICALLY , MILITARILY MORALLY, POLITICALLY ,YOU HAVE BEEN MOVED FROM THE HEAD OF THE TABLE TO. THE BACK OF THE BUS AND CHINA AND INDIA RUSSIA BOUGHT YOUR TICKET 🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🍁
I mean, I recall several people, myself inc., who said we should do a no fly zone from day 1, give Ukraine planes, tanks, everything, as soon as. 'Red lines' mean next to nothing. Tyrants lie. They manipulate. Putin is just playing from the book of the tyrannical dictator: oppress your people, frighten your neighbours - lest they get wise to your weakness and overthrow you. Unfortunately (esp. for conflicts where it's good v evil), the US has always been isolationist (I'm Australian fyi). Just think WWII, took 'em literally being bombed themselves to get their own troops involved, the people there are quite individualistic and thus can be self-interested, so it's America First once again for a good number of people. This is why I sometimes wish Britain still ruled the world, whilst imperialist defo has its downsides, it also means the populace cares more about international affairs.
Still waiting for nato
Barros speaks so clearly. Very articulate.
A friendship between pootin and Xi is like two snakes trying to shake hands. Neither one can be trusted, and one might try and eat the other one.
Very informative... more from George please
Finally a good interview with someone from the Institute. PLEASE have him back! Good job!👍
There were no military targets nearby.There was a Georgian restaurant,a Chinese one, and the Finnish and South Korean embassys..Maybe they were the target?
Well, the jury is still out on whether any of those restaurants were valid military targets
Targets of the message for sure!
Russia has struck over 1600 medical facilities so far. The children's hospital was the target.
A message to South Korea perhaps. Putin just visited North Korea.
@@foilhat1138Exactly! Tell me they were all accidents
I'm not sure how much time Xi spends thinking about Russia
Xi only thinks of himself
It's the time to sweep putin for world peace we need Franklin D Roosevelt in the office
Great interview! Very concise, clear detailed analysis.
Masterful presentation.
Russia is targeting Ukrainian hospitals. This was no accident.
The only deliberate targeting of civilians has been that carried out by Ukraine - since 2014 to the present.
You haven’t been following the news about the children’s hospital bombing……..
THATS BEEN PROVED WRONG AND IT WAS A PATRIOT MISSILE...idiots
Good
It was a Norwegian Nasam missile. Pay attention there'll be a quiz afterwards.
George is good. We like George.
This is one of the most eloquent and succinct analysis I have seen. The insight and breakdown of each scenario is clear, unbiased and insightful. 😊
Barros delivers great analysis again. Thank you TR
Excellent guest and discussion. Thank you.
Never seen this man but I want to hear from him more often. Clearly, he knows his stuff!
Have you seen those TH-cam vids of Chinese tourists at a buffet? LOL
????? Where do you find these people??
Thank you very much dear gentleman George!
It's amazing, the blogger is really creative and worth watching
Amazing analysis!! Great to know there are some fantastic minds out there🙏🙏🙏
Social unrest in Chechnya, Georgia and Russia itself.
Is it true Muslims have taken Chechnya and adjoining territory creating a Muslim state in Russia?
@jackiemack8653 yeah. It's been like that since 2008 or so. Chechnya gets most funding out of all Russian provinces and that buys loyalty. Once money stop coming they will separate.
Xi should be awfully worried.
Lol, this is delusional. Wishful thinking seems always to be in demand.
exactly what is delusional? please explain.
Слава Україні! 💙💛
Героям слава! 💙💛
Хероям ФАБов
@@fireplusbirdfilms6517Glory to God. Slava Ukraine
Ukraine should aspire to not only join NATO but to lead NATO because Ukraine knows what it is like to: be helpless, to be betrayed, to have its hands tied in a brutal battle. Long live Ukraine.
Well it is quite far from Ukraine to NATO in the way we can do combined warfare and air superiority. But NATO should learn every bit they can from the Ukrainian experiences.
And long term Ukraine will be an excellent ally aligned with the democratic countries of Europe and North America.
Protecting freedom and democracy will never be free, and the despots needs to be controlled and kept from agressive expansions and hybrid wars.
Poland has had that same experience, although admittedly it was less recent.
😂
PUTIN HAS NO RIGHT TO PUT ANY DEMANDS ON UKRAINE OR ANYONE ELSE.PUTIN STARTED THIS WAR.UKRAINE SHOULD NOT GIVE ANY LAND TO TO RUSSIA
The west is now Ukraine's backyard
Ukraine will never bow to Putin how can you blame them after everything Putin done to them …SLAVA Ukraine stay strong 💪 💪💪💪🇺🇦🇺🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️
Today's friend, tomorrows enemy
Smart dude. Excellent analysis.
NATO and Ukraine will provide the fork.
I hope George brings back the "Salvador Dali" stach - he's the only person to pull that off since Salvador himself!
2:54 Russia can continue their missile offensive, but their munitions reserves are insufficient to sustain large-scale attacking capabilities.
The best interviewer! Just intelligent questions and listening to answers. So unlike many other interviews.
Both of them can't be trusted !
It reminds me of the non-aggression pact between Germany and the Soviet Union in 1939. How did that turn out?
28:36 why doesn’t every Putin analysis start with Bill Browder’s supposition that Putin is first and foremost a criminal trying to run out the clock?
Because, if the lede wasn't buried, people would assume the analysts were talking about Trump.
I love how he uses the phrase "rules based international order" with a straight face.
Excellence in answering and questions
this guy brings clarity.
He could have had a European Taiwan but made the emotional decision to invade.
Emotional or egotistical?
Always a treat to hear from ISW!😊
He seems pretty spot on.
Good interview!
Thank you Times radio
George is Very Intelligent!!
Excellent analysis and points made - thank you
Maybe NATO should negotiate with xi to see what territory from Moscow's empire would he require in order to sell allowing Taiwan UN recognition to the Chinese
Not sure if serious but Taiwan is a part of the first island chain and as such is strategically very important since all the other islands in the chain are allied with the US
China will never allow Taiwanese de jure independence.
George Barros is such an amazing guest and a wealth of knowledge about every aspect of this conflict. I hope he returns, though there were some moments he fell in using "um" waaaay too much when he was thinking on the fly, but it just seemed to come and go. That was the only minor critique of an otherwise brilliant interview.
Such petty critique.
@@DistractedDaisy It's not, many speakers struggle with that and it's something most of us do without even knowing about it and someone needs to tell you about it so you can improve your public speaking abilities. You should have seen the comments on one female speaker last week (maybe on DW) who got torn apart in the comments because her "Um" probably was so distracting that many people could't focus on her message, which was good, but overpowered by poor public speaking skills. If no one gives you constructive criticism, how can you improve?
Great interview from both the young lady and well articulated by George.
Wow, never seen such on off-base analysis of what's actually happening and how this situation will ultimately be resolved.
is the ukrainian counter offensive still gaining momentum 🤔
Dont think they have an counter offensive. They are holding ground tho
Russia's latest offensive has come to nothing
er okay
China wants Siberia, wouldn't you!😂😂
"Manchuria" was coined in the 19th century to refer to the northeastern part of the Qing Empire, the traditional homeland of the Manchu people. After the Amur Annexation by the Russian Empire, the ceded areas were known as "Outer Manchuria" or "Russian Manchuria".
same think tank as ben hodges? iq of 8?
This is the most serious episode of chicken shop date I've ever seen. Well done on stepping it up pretty incredibly Amelia!
China does not need Siberia, Russia will give away all resources anyway. China may take over the Russian far east lands, there is no need for Russia being able to have a Pacific fleet potentially bothering China.
They will probably get huge chunks of Siberia on 99 year leases, just like they do in Cambodia.
The Western media are usually pretty bad at analysing anything about Russian army forces and Russian-China relationships, but this man is clearly have a deep understanding of the current situation, he nailed it.
😂
I must say that I do appreciate your low-key but (I think) influential reporting. Thank you.
If Biden won't step down and leave the campaign to a more capable candidate I think Trump is destined to win the election in November. All signs point to Trump being sympathetic to the Russians in general but I fail to see how targeting a children's hospital is persuasive to the leadership of other countries.
It’s a Pitty the USA only have two idiots that can be the president of what was a brilliant country.