Against the New Paganism
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- There’s been much discussion of how “wokeness,” for lack of a better term, operates as a form of civic religion for the political left. Less discussed, according to Jack Butler of National Review, is the emerging form or forms of paganism on the political right.
Most prominent among them is Costin Alamariu, a Romanian political-science Ph.D. from Yale, who goes by the moniker “Bronze Age Pervert.” Alamariu is the author of Bronze Age Mindset, which Butler describes as “an intentionally provocative, discursive, and ungrammatical “exhortation” outlining his thought.” In it, Alamariu laments the diminution of the authentic expression of masculinity and the masculine virtues, and the failures of political conservatism to preserve those virtues and whatever else is good about civil society. In ideas reminiscent of Frederich Nietzsche, Alamariu castigates the “bug men” or “human cockroaches” for their weakening of men and of society, and the need for a league of neo-ubermenches to rise up and reshape the world in their image.
Butler contents that, wild as this all sounds, we should take the Bronze Age phenomenon and the rising new paganism seriously.
Today, Eric Kohn talks with Jack Butler about the rise of this new paganism on the left and on the right, and how he contends that only a reinvigorated Christianity in the public square can adequately contend with these new “pretender faiths of our time.”
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Bug men will never understand the power of sun and steel.
No offense, but almost getting a nervous breakdown when reporting the content of the book, makes BAP's exhortation even more appealing to read
precisely right, playing straight into his hands
Who is this BAP person? His books sounds like it scares people. I'll have to buy a copy and figure out why his ideas are so enticing.
@@Ian-yf7ufHe is a gay, jewish romanian bodybuilder. A subversive whose purpose is to bring the western right and zionism together
Bugmen intelexuals not happy. Many such cases.
Makes autists much happy.
Not really a BAP guy or even a right winger but the deeply pathetic wimpiness of these guys makes me want to defend him. Zero chance that any of these guys lift.
You are a BAP guy. Dont be dishonest.
@@AggroChip nah, I'm fascinated by the neo-nietschean strand of right wing thought but I am not a right winger. I'll admit I do agree with a lot of assertions these types make about masculinity and how liberalism and Christianity are both antithetical to it. In the end BAP's worldview is based on psuedohistory and an idealist understanding of the world. I'd still take it over whatever these limp wristed fancy boys are all about.
@@BlueBeamProjectionist ..your name is referencing blue beam.
@@BlueBeamProjectionistincredibly based way to describe BAP. Half of it is 100% pseudo history but it’s interesting to pay attention to.
@@unitedfederalnations3761 yeah I think it's funny to take theories developed by a Soviet feminist anthropologist (Gimbutas) and build a right wing masculinist philosophy on them. Patriarchy wasn't invented by the Proto-Indo-Europeans and they didn't have to force it onto neolithic Europeans. Patriarchy probably developed as a natural result of agricultural life since farming necessitated land ownership, which in turn required increased violence to maintain and expand land ownership. Men being better at violence, and other qualities amenable to war, like group cohesion and discipline within a rigid hierarchy basically guaranteed that agriculture would lead to patriarchy. Similarly, patriarchy is in decline today because it is mostly unnecessary for the current economic reality, as generating wealth requires less physical strength than ever before and technology has changed warfare drastically. Of course men make better modern soldiers than women but the difference is nothing compared to when wars were fought with spears and slings.
HOW THIS MAEK YOU FEEL
really had to cringe on the idea of Ned-Flanders-conservatives from some institute whining for an hour about a guy called Bronze Age Pervert and his evil pagan book, can‘t figure out how there are right-wingers who think there are more attractive and promising things than that
B-b-but muh based groyper crusades 🥺🥺🥺
>наткнулся на упоминание некоего извращенца бронзового века на околоязыческом ресурсе
>забил в ютюб посмотреть кто это, нашёл это видео, открыл с плохими предчувствиями
>мотаю на рандомный момент
>получаю дневную дозу скуки за две секунды, съёживаюсь, закрываю видео
>предчувствия полностью оправданы
мне как-то без разницы чё они там говорят, как кто-то ваще озабочивается прислушиванием когда всё что ты слышишь это "ээ консерватизм пук пук маскулинность ыы правые ээ левые" и прочий набор всего самого шаблонного и типичного порожняка, выданный на сложную и даже интимную тему. и всё это приторным "дебатным" голоском. самое плохое что таково 90% так называемой гуманитарной сферы, особенно на западе.
ну рад хоть в каментах нашлись адекватычи, не ожидал
Neither of these two has done a single lift in the past year.
you must submit.
@@AggroChip To the gay romanian jew Costin Alamariu of course!
National review has always crushed dissenters on behalf of the establishment. This guy thinks the left is going to allow the revival of Christianity if we are polite enough.
Even then, most politicians on the right engage in Christianity as a form of Pharisees-ism and never engage 3rd world population boom and migration. The dishonesty on the right and left on issues that will actually effect Americans is staggering and real Christianity makes no case for forever migration
Christianity isn't going to revive any time soon. It was a very useful social tool during the middle ages, and was only really kept around through the rise of early industrial capitalism due to the reformation which transposed bourgeois values onto it. Now that capitalism has morphed into a post-industrial financialized economic system it is kind of obsolete. The logic of christianity is useless to the tech and finance elite, whereas it was extremely useful to the feudal aristocracy and industrial bourgeoisie.
BAP is anti christian though. yes, we do need a tougher right wing. but anti human paganism isnt the answer..
This is just missing the mark so much. A revival of Christianity *must* incorporate, and in fact rely on, vitalism and Greco principles.
oh no BAP bros we’ve been noticed by the national review
BAP bros = jews
@@yourguyin2554 Cause they are. Have you seen the threads outing his circle? Ben braddock outed himself a day or two ago
These guys are lightweights
It's very telling how little they've engaged with the source material, especially since BAP tells fellow frogs to have as many kids as possible and they claim he's telling them not to have kids.
Just FYI, he talks about famous Normans and how having large families was a will to power and responsible for them becoming nation founders.
@@Ian-yf7uf FYI, he's a subversive zionist. If you are an israeli jew you would probably like him. If you are a westerner though, he is your enemy. He's been outed, it's no secret
BAP just says that it's not an aim in itself or a true political act, without vitalism & real power it's just raising cattle for the enemy.
We de not own any institutions and land, being obsessed with just having kids is this feminine urge that we see in men nowadays. Communal living in harmony and avoiding conflict is not going to solve the true crisis, also whites will never make 6-7 kids in a prosperous society, we don't want to compete with nonwhites and their unnatural urges.
eMbRaCe tHe CoNstItuTioN... this was very gay
Interesting conversation, hail the gods, hail our folk.
Ave!
your "gods" are nothing but deified human superstitions which have been conquered by Christ, larper.
@@crasnicul3371deified White superstitions conquered by a Jew? Fuuuuucccckkkkk based.
If you liked the Bronze Age Mindset try Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy
pointing and sputtering, right on que
Measure a man’s worth by his enemies… Remember that when “Christians” had to fight they did so without fear. These cux are anything but and will cower at the first sign of trouble.
As a bad Catholic familiar with vitalism, Nietzsche, solar and Hyperborean spirituality, MGTOW, red-pill content, Jung, feminism in action, and (in ages past) weight training and bodybuilding, I will venture an opinion. Yes, this discussion is missing the mark. Men are turning to vitalism to affirm their masculinity, which has been domesticated by materialism, dismissed by feminism, and rendered obsolete through technology. They turn to the iconography of barbarians, Hyperborea, the Bronze Age, &c for the archetypes that speak to what has been suppressed by a feminine, atheistic modern West, where the woman alone must be provided for and safe, a goddess in her shrine surrounded by treasure and eunuchs. But just as a "strong and independent boss babe" eventually hears the siren song of her womb, so a young man knows that he must use his bodily strength in a fruitful way. But the future inhabitants of Valhalla are not thinking about bringing Heathenry to the Rotary Club. They want to know deeply and experientially that, as men, their lives matter. In the past, the Church offered what paganism did not: a moral purpose, value, and goal to every life. (See the story of Coife the pagan priest in the Venerable Bede.) If Christianity is to play a part now, she must provide a vision of the mature, fulfilled, realistic masculine, since we now live in a world that because of modern medicine does not need healing miracles, because of an industrial economy does not need prayers for bounty, and has no need of a moral code because everyone is "nice".
Any proof that Costin Alamariu is the author of Bronze age mindset? Very interested in knowing
He got doxxed a while back
It's him. As @sully9937 says he was doxxed. As was his father. Another zionist degenerate jew
Lmao that’s not actually him, you little fool 🤣
The "evidence" I have seen is conjecture and speculation that gets repeated from article to article and is now reported as fact. Maybe it's him, but who cares. It's gossip journalism at this point
Bronze Age Pervert is a moderate liberal centrist who does a historical podcast. He says very often, "for historical interest only"
Two bugmen coming to terms with the social necessity of their destruction.
Keep up the pressure of true samizdat.
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Poast phizeek
This is hardy an engagement with the book, and I write this as someone who hasn't even read it. You barely discussed it and instead chose to ramble on about your own interests. What a waste of time.
Wtf is "post with an A"?
You clearly haven't read Bronze Age Mindset
Poast
I think the silliest part of this ENTIRE discussion is how there is no serious talk of what 'woke' even means for you people. You're all fighting against something no one is advocating for other than a Childish Gambino song title.
If there is anything to show you how clueless tradcaths and tradcons are it's this podcast. I used to be like you so i dont blame you.
There was literally nothing offered of value to showcase your argument It's essentially cherry picking some of Bap's questionable or arguable statements, which even some of his viewers would disagree with, while offering nothing in return or any attempt to grasp the situation, which essentially is what conservatives and tradcaths don't get. Conservatives and tradcaths are the same as the left, ni different, its about whose chains are going to be over you.
Go read Camille paglia or moldbug for example on paganism for analysis. I will say Bap is well read and studied man, which is not something i got from this.
Imo the only christian answer is to be found in Kierkegaard and that would exclude, alongside nietzsche, any regard for the masses, for the herd, gor the bugman
And to add to that conservatived and tradcaths offer nothing for masculine men because their structures are essentially cucked and lack any true fire to move them. Herd animalism and would even destroy the true concept, the Heideggerian and Kierkegaardian concept of the individual, to ensure it's goals
What is it about gay Romanian Jewish bodybuilders you find so appealing?
@@24tommy109 maybe the fact that they're not cucked like you or anyone on this podcast. Probably don't even lift.
It's me. I'm Gor The Bugman
Kinda false dichotomy and straw man a bit here, aren’t you? Catholic is an answer to both Kierkegaard and pagan Costin. To be Catholic is to have been baptized in the trinitarian formula, and Kierkegaard’s leap of faith presumes a consciousness and will. Whereas, the sacrement of baptism counts if you are conscious or not.
i never liked Nietzsche mianly because of guys like this, same with Werner Herzog