Minelab Manticore: Deep & Iffy Coins Signals with the Silver Shooter Program.
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- Back at the old ball field in Alabama. Digging some deeper iffy signals.
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Good to see something positive.
You seem pretty good with her. Thanks for the lesson.
Thank you Cody. I still had a lot to learn, but the Manticore is an outstanding detector in my opinion.
I appreciate you taking time to use this detector and figure out what it’s truly capable of finding. Knowing the machine is critical. Thank you for your expertise. Gary
Thanks Gary! I'm still trying to learn the Manticore but its been pretty impressive so far.
Good hunt!! But if you don't get some oil on that shovel you are going to have to change your name to "Squeaky". LOL
Thanks and LOL! I noticed that when I was editing the video. Damn that thing is noisy!
Super valuable video bud! This video along with the silver program is exactly what a fellow needs to understand how it works. Seeing the iffy signals along with the dig to see results is perfection. I have learned a tremendous amount in a very short time. Thank you very much for sharing this.
Thanks for the feedback! I’m glad you found it useful. Good luck and happy hunting!
Your video is the first one where I have actually learned how the tone with the VDI and target id work together to get an idea what's there. Love it shows the coin or circle in the 2d with both nails showing as present but only a tone in one direction. I currently have the Simplex plus, Legend, and Nox 800. I am trying to decide to buy the Manticore and let a couple of these others go. I been on the fence but this one direction tone and 2d target id I could use. I hunt very trashy sites. I think this could be to my advantage. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for watching and commenting goldendredger! Good luck with the Manticore should you decide to get one! :)
Some impressive digs. Great job Dewayne!
Thanks Matt!
Fantastic Dewayne! Mantacore is looking good!
Thanks man! I like what I see so far! I'm loving the Deus 2 as well. Its a great time to be a detectorist!
Great video! Definitely justifies my purchase of the Manticore in January. Can't wait until it comes :)
Thanks man! Good luck with your Manticore!
Looks like you are doing great with the manticore. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Michael!
Great video bud! I for one can't wait until I can get a Manticore.
Thanks Matt! Its a great machine from what I've seen so far.
Great job and thanks for sharing!
Thanks John!
This video of the Manticore is really a learning tool.
You have mastered the 2d screen. Finding coins that visually start at the center coin line and then gets
DRAGGED by iron into the ferrous regions.
Looks like buying a Manticore will require an optional back hoe too.
Thanks Denny! I was already familiar with Target Trace from my previous detector (CTX 3030). Seems like it has been improved on the Manticore. A lot cleaner and easier to interpret than the older version. Yep, its a deep seeking machine for sure!
Man them targets were deep!
That quarter was surrounded by nails, that's crazy!
My Manticore arrives Wednesday.
Thanks for showing the Target Trace and providing commentary, that helps a lot.
Looking forward to following your journey.
Thanks PBR! I've only been using the Manticore for a little over 3 weeks so I have a lot to learn, but I like what I see! Good luck with yours!
Good learning video from a man very familiar with some of the best modern coin detectors available on the market. Love seeing the TID's and hearing the tones.
Thanks bud! :)
Damn, that's a nice field to dig
I love digging there. That sandy soil makes for some nice easy digging.
Great vid! Thank you
Great video. Present very very well. I don't mind seeing failures also. Thank you for the great video. Bob in Ontario Canada
Thank you Bob! HH!
cool hunt and finds. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
very interesting once more...........i will have to re-check a few of my button signals tomorrow - thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting Gravediggermax!
Very good video. Imagine what CTX or Etrac would give on their targets? Probably why they were still there. I had several ah ah moments testing that rascal. Couldn’t show folks though.
Keep the vids coming.
Thanks TNSS! Yep, that place has been hunted with a lot of different machines, including the CTX. I'm impressed with the Manticore's performance so far!
Really nice video.
Thanks bud! Hope you and Bill have been doing well!
Awesome finds, the manticore looks impressive picking out silver. Kenny
Thanks Kenny!
Really enjoyed seeing real world hunting with it. Looks to be a really good machine. I'm not sure I want to upgrade my 800 yet but it I ever do. Sweet Barber Quarter. Thanks for sharing, good luck, happy hunting and take care. ✌️
Thanks CCHH! I still have a lot to learn about the Manticore but so far its been impressive! GL & HH!
New Manticore user here. This was very helpful
Nice to hear, Scott. Good luck with that new Manticore!
Great examples of coins in iron. Did you also have some digs that day that sounded similar but there was no coin - only iron falsing?
Thank you Reese. I dug one falsing nail that day, but I had a pretty good idea that it was falsing due to the ghosting signal. I dug it anyway just to verify. Looking back, I wish I had recorded it.
Nice Hunt and finds. Shows the Manticore can unmask in iron. Haven't had a chance to try mine on land yet. But beach hunting it's great.
Thanks Relics & Rings! Man, I sure would love to do some beach hunting with either the Manticore or the Deus 2. Looks like a lot of fun!
I have a Manticore on the way, looking forward to trying it out
Good luck with it. Its a great machine!
Great finds I bought the 900 it’s a nice machine already found a bunch of silver this year it’s a deep detector so is the Manticore. I just found a great revolutionary war era scabbard!
Thanks Mark! I've been hearing great things about the Nox 700 and 900! Congrats on the silver & Rev War scabbard!
You are doing well with the Manticore. You are showing how it is meeting its promise and the 2d screen is most useful!
Thank you Susan. I've really enjoying using it and the learning process.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Jimmy!
That was truly impressive, and an extremely helpful video for someone considering an upgrade. I've been swinging the same E-trac since 2013... but I think there's a Manticore with my name on it in the near future. Well, once it's actually available to us riff-raff, that is!
Anyway, THANK YOU for this video. Liked and subbed.
Thank you Dajiban! Hopefully Minelab gets more of these things shipped out soon. In the mean time, I have a pretty lengthy written review posted over on the Friendly and DetectorProspector forums which points out some of the pros and cons, if you care to read.. This is the link:
metaldetectingforum.com/index.php?threads/my-thoughts-on-the-minelab-manticore-after-50-hours-and-beyond.300976/
Good luck with the Manticore if you decide to get one! HH!
Thanks for vid.
Thanks for stopping by Fred! HH!
Everytime i dig the deep and iffy signals, i dig up garbage haha
It happens. Still dig my share of garbage tool. lol
He shoots! He scores! Isn’t that wild when you can tell it has a good chance of being a coin just by hitting it from literally one direction? Like…from the east. That’s it!😂 Takes a LONNNGG time to build that skill, and it comes from hunting RELENTLESSLY! Awesome stuff DeWayne, looks like you have ANOTHER buddy to play with!😃
Thanks Kevin! Man, I have a lot to learn on this Manticore. Still trying to get used to the numbers and memorize where everything reads. Until then, I need to stop calling targets. You saw me call that last silver quarter a dime! lol! Looks like its going to be another good machine though. I like what I see so far.
Nice job 👏 I'm still debating but I like your vid impressive 👍
Thanks Purnell!
It sounded like the EMI coupled with fairly high sensitivity was messing with the signal a bit, making the audio and VDI a bit jumpy, but I run my Nox 800 the same way (and my Explorer before the Nox). Would have been nice to see how low you could have dropped the sensitivity before those deep signals were not discernible. Thanks for the live digs! No matter how long we’ve been detecting, we can all learn from live digs!👍🏼
Hey Dan! Yeah man, you're probably right. I do tend to run my machines right on the edge of stability.. The Manticore seems like it goes plenty deep, even at lower sensitivity levels of around 23-24. Next time I'm out there, I'll try lowering the sensitivity to see how well it does on the deeper ones.
Good stuff! Wish I had more time to hunt! A few more months and I will head back to the gold mine and c what else I can fund but not soon enough! I like that it has a 100 count on the vdi seems like a good machine.
Thanks Nathan! Yeah man, the Manticore seems like its going to be a great detector. BTW, I love your videos of hunting that rocky beach! That place seems like its loaded with oldies!
@Metal Detecting NWGA ya me two but it is 500 miles away from the frozen waistland of Montana!
Nice hunt
Thank you sir.
Can you tell me if at the making of this video had you done the update on the manticore. There has beensome rumors of losing depth after the update. You were getting plenty depth in the video. Thanks
Hi Dean. This was well before the update was released. Yes, that machine is very deep. I ended up selling my Manticore before this latest update was released, so I have no experience with it.
Nice!! Care to share the silver shooter program? I would love to try it over a few old spots. I dug a barber dime at 12” with mine at an old spot we beat up with 3 equinoxes. I had my buddy swing over the dime, his nox only got a little blip one way signal with no ID on the screen, that’s when I knew the manticore was a deep hitter.
Thanks man! Yep, the Manticore is a deep machine for sure. Here is the Silver Shooter program: th-cam.com/video/zVfGCECkk28/w-d-xo.html
@@MetalDetectingNWGA awesome! Thanks, Happy Hunting 🍀
I remember with the ctx putting the digger threw a Vicky florin when I pinpointed on a nail about 3 inches from the florin.i emailed minelab to see if it was possible to pinpoint in disc so as to ignore the iron.they assured me it was not possible,such a shame
I like to use the wiggle-back method for pinpointing with discrimination at sites that are loaded with iron. It works pretty well.
Very nice finds Dewayne. Have you hunted that area before with the Deuss II? If so, I am very impressed with the Manticore
Thanks John! Yes, I've hunted there with the CTX and Deus 2. You know how it goes though. No place is ever truly hunted out.
Dewayne you did a great job of teaching on this video. Digging those iffy signals paid dividends for sure, nice job
@@jbolf6 Thanks John!
Great video. I have a question I've been using the manticore for several weeks. Maybe I have 60 to 75 hours on it. The question is how many coins and or buttons/keepers have you dug up that did not read on the center line? I've been digging a lot of targets and 95% or more of the good targets at least have something touching the center line. But if I have good numbers and a soso tone and there's nothing really showing on the center line it seems to always be junk. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this
Hey thanks basstrackerman! I replied over on the forum, but yeah seems like most if not all have been on the centerline or at least touching it. Having said that, I haven't really paid much attention. I will make a note of it on the next few hunts and see where they're plotting.
After watching your video again I think I know what I was doing wrong. I noticed when there was silver in with the iron you was still getting a reading in the 70’s and 80’s and 2 targets on the screen. All my targets came in in the upper 90’s like 98. You had a spot where the target ID would jump around where silver should come in. Is that what was telling you there was a possible coin in with the iron?
Yes, I’ll generally see either two distinct dots building, or a smear running from the iron area into the coin range. A lot of it is just the audio nuance and feel. A coin mixed with iron is gonna hit more solid, and be more repeatable. Falsing is a more ghosty signal that just doesn’t act the same. The more you use the Manticore the easier it is to tell falsing from a good target. You’ll likely still get fooled occasionally, but not so much that it’s a problem. I’d say just put more time on the unit and I bet you get more and more comfortable with what’s a coin and what’s falsing.
Maybe there is a crack in your shovel blade near the handle as I can't make my phoenix squeak no matter how much I use it?,great defecting with you.
Hmm.. Possibly. I'll check it out. I have a Phoenix as well. It would probably do better at this site anyway. Thanks Russ T!
Do you have a video not using this audio setting like in AT general? Hard to tell in this mode. I’m struggling with the deep stuff in AT and normal sounding beeps not the squeekyness like this.
Hi Kathy. I do not , but you can use whichever audio settings you prefer with this disc pattern. Just give some of the others a try and see which one works best for you.
How does one get a hold of this Silver Shooter Program? I seen your did a video thanks for that video as well. Thanks and Great Video. Getting My Manticore Today will be getting out this weekend with it. Pretty Impressive!!!! Thanks for showing the nails as well just for confirmation lol....
Thanks bud! Good luck with your new Manticore!
@@MetalDetectingNWGA I have a question I was watching your video again what did you mean you can tell by looking at the target trace when its elongated? On another dig you were saying something with this elongated line coming up from the bottom and said its trying to build something on the non ferrous line? It looks like allot of the coins you dug had elongated lines. And your last coin you thought it was a massive dime but ended up being a barber quarter. So the numbers that was masking it was dragging the numbers down as a quarter should have read higher right? Just trying to learn from your video.
@@Photostrated On the elongated comment, I was referring to the elongated trace coming down from the upper ferrous limits and connecting to another dot or trace on the non-ferrous line. To me, that seemed to indicate their was nails or some other iron in the hole, and the long line extending down and building a distinct dot on the non-ferrous line tells me theirs a good chance that a coin or some other good target is mixed in with the iron. A lot of times when its just falsing iron, you may get a streak running toward the non-ferrous line, but no dark traces or dots building on the line. More of a random smear. When there's a good target mixed in with iron, sometimes you can see a darker trace trying to build on the non-ferrous line, rather than just a random smear. Make sense? This isn't always the case, but just a little thing that I've picked up on. Yes, a lot of signals, especially deeper ones will show an elongated trace, even on a clean signal. I'm not sure the reason behind this, but I'm referring to the ones that trail down from the ferrous limits. As for the Barber quarter, yes I was expecting a dime based off of the numbers being mostly in the lower 80s. A quarter should read a little higher, but I suspect that one got drug down due to having the iron around it, as you said.
@@Photostrated We have a discussion going over on the Friendly Forum in my review thread. On one of my replies, I posted some screenshots of the traces from a couple of different videos. You might find them interesting. This is the link: metaldetectingforum.com/index.php?threads/my-thoughts-on-the-minelab-manticore-after-50-hours-and-beyond.300976/post-3445757
@@MetalDetectingNWGA Gonna have to see if I can remember my password there lol so I could reply. But loved the screen shots with what you found. Not to mention the user right below your post his comment. I wonder how often that is true?
Can I get the settings for your silver program . Thank you
Hi Aaron. You can find the program here: th-cam.com/video/zVfGCECkk28/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MetalDetectingNWGA
The thing I'm not liking is the unstable VDI numbers, they are way too jumpy compared to a Nox 800. I seen a few people suggest using the Beach mode on land and it gives more stable IDs. Is this something you can try? Still waiting on my Manticore so I don't have a way to test. Great video and some nice old Silver!
Thanks Scorpio! The ID on the Manticore is very spread out. Having a spread ID has some benefits, but it also has some negatives. Being so spread out, you’ll notice more ID variation due to mineralization, and you’ll notice it’s a little less stable when compared to machines like the Deus 2, CTX or Etrac. So, it’s a tradeoff. On the Manticore, you’ll get a better spread to help separate detected targets, but you’ll need to do more mental averaging of the ID #’s to get a good idea of what’s under the coil. I will try beach mode next time I'm there. :)
@@MetalDetectingNWGA Thanks for explaining it better. The spread out IDs I believe should help to ID pull tabs vs gold rings but even so both PT and Gold rings ring up all over the board. Wish I could try out the beach settings, as even the Manual said it gives better IDs.
Lowering sensitivity also helps stable target ID's some more. It still find targets plenty deep with lower sensitivity
@@phrunt yep, I’ve found that to be true. Got a deep target the other day and was able to lower the sensitivity all the way down to 19 and it still hit it just fine.
@@phrunt Also helps a little with the falsing iron. Minelab said they know about the target IDs being jumpy, will have a update soon they claim.
I volunteer to be your cameraman just to learn. Great video.
You're more than welcome to come along anytime Mike. Thanks buddy!
Great video..... I need your coin program of what you have discriminated out and your settings.... help a South GA brother out. 😢
Hey thanks Richard. Look at my other videos for the one titled Silver Shooter program. Good luck!
I really want to find out if the CTX gets put on the shelf. Part of me wants CTX to stay top dog
CTX still fills a void. It would be awesome if they put a faster computer in it.
The CTX and Etrac will always be on my list of top favorite detectors. Just something special about that flutey sound and rock solid ID from FBS! Having said that, the speed, depth and weight offered by these newer detectors is definitely nice.
Is the silver shooter program a standard program on the Manticores or is that your setup?
Hey Edward. It’s my setup. I have a video showing how to set it up if you’d like to try it. Just browse my other vids and you’ll see it.
Not trying to butter your toast but, you are a pro. Take care, be safe n keep on digg'n.
Thanks for the kind words Curtis. I'm still learning the Manticore like everyone else, but I like what I see so far!
Which detector would u recommend deus 2 or manticore. I got 800 , teknic.
I had the 800 for 4 years great detector I just sold it bought a 900 wanted the manticore but not available so until they are I’m using the 900 it’s a better detector than the 800 but I will upgrade to the manticore
Depends on the type of hunting you do. I have a full written review on both of those, if you feel like reading it. Here's the links:
Deus 2: metaldetectingforum.com/index.php?threads/my-thoughts-on-the-xp-deus-2-after-50-hours.295150/
Manticore: metaldetectingforum.com/index.php?threads/my-thoughts-on-the-minelab-manticore-after-50-hours-and-beyond.300976/
When you used this machine, did this machine ever go bonkers when you turned your pin pointer on? I have a Nokta Simplex and my machine goes absolutely haywire when I turn on my Garrett Carrot.
Hi Dave. No, I didn't have any real issues with my Garrett Pinpointer, but I guess it would depend on which search mode is being used. I mostly used AT HC or ATG on my Manticore. What mode are you using when you have the EMI? Have you tried a manual noise cancel with the pinpointer on and nearby?
@@MetalDetectingNWGA it gives me crazy inference on any mode. It’s just a Nokta thing. They have mute button I always hit before I turn my pin pointer on.
If you don’t mind me asking, why did you sell your manticore? I’m looking to upgrade and I’m leaning toward a Equinox900. I know I’m missing deeper targets with my simplex.
@@dave3897 I really liked the Manticore, but for my style of hunting, I prefer the XP Deus 2. I hunt in the woods a lot, so the lighter weight and maneuverability of the D2 is a big plus. I also find the audio more descriptive on the D2. Both great machines though.
@@MetalDetectingNWGA that makes sense. I hunt more open spaces like fields and such. I was going to get the manticore but a lot of guys said the box 700 or 800 are almost as good. I’m more or less looking for better depth and ID accuracy.
Pretty impressive!
I wouldn't recommend a larger coil for you though.....unless you already own a backhoe🤪
Thanks AK2ndA! I’m waiting for Minelab to release the 17”x13” coil for this one. 😂
Impressive performance. Just goes to show that no site is ever hunted out.
Thanks for watching SF! Yep, never hunted out! I think there's still several more good targets hiding in the iron there. I may go back next weekend.
2D map + iD 🎯
I’m curious, do you think a blind person could use the manticore? Thanks for sharing, take care and keep happy
Hey TBTH, that’s a tough question to answer without having experienced all of the challenges myself, but I’d say if a blind person has had success with other detectors, I think the Manticore could be just as good or maybe even better. It has lots of audio options which can be set up to give you a very good idea of depth and target conductivity. Pinpoint mode is easy to use and very accurate. If possible, I’d try to find someone locally who has one and maybe try one out before buying.
@@MetalDetectingNWGA thank you so much for the input, it is much appreciated.
I just watched one of your videos. Very impressive! With how successful you are with the Garrett, I’d say you’d do just fine with the Manticore.
@@MetalDetectingNWGA thank you
I don’t think my Nox 600 would find any of them deep coins 🪙 with no iron around. 🤦🏻♂️
Great video but why is that machine so chatty?
Thanks! I tend to run my sensitivity right on the edge of stability. Dropping it down a couple of notches would definitely quieten it down, and its still capable of good depth at lower levels.
those are some massive plugs. Do them smaller in a horseshoe. Not a good look for the grass
The plugs are big because the soil there is very sandy, and larger plugs tend to go back in and hold together better. If you look at my other vids at different locations, you’ll see that the plug size is smaller/normal. Different conditions require different methods.
Cherry picking lol *
Yep. :)