Imagine trying to make someone feel guilty about body shaming, meanwhile you stole 30,000 from your sister. I'm sorry that's a hard pill to swallow when family steal that amount of money.
Tell me about it. One of my sisters stole that same exact amount of money from me too and when I got upset with her she just acted like I was the one that stole something from her. People don’t like to admit that they are wrong and they always try to blame others for their actions and mistakes but don’t ever admit it or apologize for it. SMDH! 🙄
Tamika you a loyal family member cause soon as I got evidence of her stealing $30,000 from me. Tocha and her husband would be explaining it to Civil and Criminal Court Judge. Family or No Family.💯
@@neshlane1509 right?!?! I 100% asked myself, "Am I watching a Tyler Perry Studios production right now?" Nonetheless, it will live rent free in my head! Call it out Tamika! Call it out!!!
LaTocha has insecurities that she recognizes when it's convenient for her. She deflects and takes things out on the group. From the many interactions I've seen her have with her husband, it seems like she is scared of him. She disguises her fear of him by hiding behind him by letting him take over on her "behalf".
@yesnoormaybe1207 Right. People like her pride themselves on their "partnerships" even if it's at someone else's expense. Then have the audacity to still "require" loyalty. She's unhappy, lonely, and scared in her "partnership", but would rather suffer than to admit it. FOH
AND STILL MAD ABOUT some show in boca raton 20 years ago. She ain fat no moe soooo why she mad, she does have that black girl magic beauty and sexiness now sooooo GIR, WATS YA BEEF AND YA ATTITUDE FOR. ANNND SEE HOW WHEN YOU DO BIZNESS WITH FAMILY, AND THEY CANT TAKE TGE PERSONAL OUT OF BIZNESS. HMPH
I don’t think Tocha is afraid of Rocky…I THINK TOCHA IS AFRAID OF LOSING ROCKY. Something in her doesn’t want to be WITHOUT him so she’s holding onto him by any means necessary. I’m done watching the full episode…I 1000% BELIEVE ROCKY STOLE TAMIKA’S ROYALTY CHECKS! Tocha wants a husband so bad though🤣 she can’t see past his d!kc! Tocha believes everything that comes out of his mouth.
That first episode made me a ride or die for Tamika. I understand her so much better now! She’s always felt alone and like she wasn’t good enough. And that’s because she grew up in a home being alone and treated like she wasn’t as good as her sister. And to the ones that commented, asking why Tamika brought her daughter to the sit down with her mom and sister … Because she wanted support! Her daughters are her support system since she doesn’t get that from her mom and sister. They gang up on her and Mike it 2 against one. So she has support when 1 of her daughters is there.
Not to mention, her daughter is in her late 20’s, so this is completely appropriate. I would be there for my mother the same way. Saddd, from the mama all the way down.
@@Exxtol1 yes ma’am. If you watch the full episode, they record Tamika and her daughter driving to her mothers home for the “intervention” with her sister and they display her daughters name and age, I believe she’s 27.
@@shellyt1453 because, being MORE GROWN, she shouldn’t say things behind one of her children’s back. Especially calling one jealous of the other secretly. If you really feel that way, as a parent, you have a problem. That’s not right.
@@shellyt1453 Can you see how she is totally ignoring Tamika's feelings c'mon the girl is hurt. They stole her money. Her mom even admitted but didn't want it exposed on TV. Tocha is just dismissive and selfish.
Gloria is clearly in the wrong. Bringing division, remaining silent, or being complicit in the fallout between siblings is never okay as the parent. Gloria should be ashamed of herself. She is at fault for allowing this to continue for decades and upholding Tocha while knowing she and her husband, Rocky, stole from her daughter. What message is she sending to Tamika; that her life and feelings didn't matter? Where the hell is Iyanla Vanzant when you need her!?! Dammit!
How she said we family and I can’t do nothing about it and the mama said imma do something about it…sounds like she gone do something about it to the one who said it aka tosha…. The other one trying to clown her sister when kandy and tiny clearly don’t like her …smh …people do anything for a friend
Every time me & my sister have EVER been mad at each other my mother made sure it didn’t last. And it was never over anything to be upset about. But to see the way the mother has behaved is disheartening.
Shutting production then at her car said you don't know what was going on they may have needed money....what more than pregnant single parent Tamika that earned it??? Seems it was split three ways..
Coco's wisdom went right past her head, but truthfully its the only thing that needed to be said. You don't have to "get along" in order to get on stage and make your coins. Learn to separate business and personal. Period.
Although Tamika is the youngest of the two sisters she's the outgoing and likeable one that makes friends easily. Kandi and Tiny are her friends from school, so that says a lot right there.
Y'all know what I extremely love about the last scene and it really shows what great of a PARENT Tamika is. Her GROWN daughter didn't say a word she has mad RESPECT even though grandma n auntie was treating her mother wrong.
Yep… because this grown daughter …grandma and auntie would have got the business!!!! I tolerate zero disrespect to the mother who carried me for 9 months! Anybody can get it!
Yup. Its toxic and childish. I grew up with an older brother l. Just us 2 and he was always favored just cause he was a Black man. Happens too often. Smh
My mom favors her no education jail bird of a son over me the baby and I never got in any trouble with the law in fact I worked with the government and went to school. But that's who she favors because he's always giving her whatever she wants and he doesn't talk back or let her know that she's wrong about certain things. I AM very honest but also very respectful about it and none confrontational unless you come for me then all bets are off.
LaTocha has always been a problem and her husband too looks like he's been wearing the same black clothes for yrs he looks like he's stuck in the 90s her solo career is going to be just like the 1st time she tried to go Solo Tamika told her your good to be broke again and I'm thing Layoffs is jealous of Tamika bc her and her husband are wannabees The Group don't need her and the mother should be ashamed too 🤔🤎🖤🗣️ CALIFORNIA ♥️😎
She had no problem telling Tameka to kiss her a** but when Tameka claps back she doesn’t have one, she mad? The group got “internal issues”? Nah. LaTocha is the one with the issues, her ego, big girl mentality, that solo career that will never be and Rocky… pick a struggle ma.
@@BeGood4Eva I’m not trying to be funny or anything. I just think she’s still insecure about being “big” despite being small and hasn’t dealt with the emotional trauma she might have experienced when she was a big girl.
@@MosesJD86 , I agree it’s like she always has a chip on shoulder regarding her looks from the past, I feel like she is trying to overcompensate her insecurities into the way she looks now. For example the blonde hair looks atrocious on her, not everyone looks good as a blonde, it looks tacky on her! She really needs a stylist! But let’s not forget her attitude stinks, and the way she treats her own sister is disgusting 🤢! There is absolutely nothing Like able about her…
@@msandoval8027 now imma disagree with you on the looks thing, she looks amazing with the blonde. i might not like her but i give credit where its due. she been slaying lately. she looks beautiful. her attitude just really blows me. i think she’s still insecure
My parents treated my brother and I equally. For Tamika to feel that way there is absolutely a grain of truth to what she's saying. A lot of parents don't even realize they play favorites.
@@debbiewatson2690 I think with things like that parents are in denial about playing favorites, but yes, you're right. They have to know on some level because my mom was big about us knowing that she loved us both equally.
Right! I have 8 brothers and sisters 8 of them we don’t fight we don’t argue none of that it’s rare we have had some disagreements and there were once my sister was really pisses at me back when I had a lot of anger issues but we all get along that’s crazy o wouldn’t take 30 cent from my sister without asking why?
Tocha is so damn bitter and entitled acting! Ain’t nobody ever been checking for your solo albums boo! Kandi revived your career! You should be thankful!
I remember some years ago Tamika saying her mother was managing their money. The mother took $10,000 of her and her sister money and gave it to the church. The pastor made an announcement during service thanking them. The sisters didn’t have a clue the mother donated their money without their consent. The mother and the sister are a mess. The husband is using her …this is one of R.Kelly guys from his camp. Family can be worse then a stranger.
I think you may be mixing them up, I believe it was Tamika's husband who was in R. Kelly's camp, I believe he worked security for him at one point. He is the big burly guy.
@@arganiaspinosa9122 LaTocha's husband is from R. Kelly's old 90s camp. I remember reading it way back when they got together and she hesitantly confirmed it during this show during a confessional.
Having a narc mom and sibling is the worse. They are co dependent of one another and manipulate the truth to make themselves look like victims. It’s exhausting trying to always defend yourself against their outburst of insecurities that are always directed at the child that isn’t easily manipulated and calls them out on their b.s. It causes trust issues. If you can’t trust your own Mom and sibling, you tend to either search for the connection else where…. your granny, aunt, older female cousin or that “ play or God mother. You love your actual mother, but you never really feel loved. And anytime they’re nice, it’s because they have a motive. Oh, and don’t you dare have a relationship with your father( the man that made your mom bitter) cause you will really be outcasted. The sad part is, that sibling that the narc mom favors will not wanna be bothered with the mom in old age, unless an inheritance is involved. The child that is treated the worse will be the one wiping mama’s behind when she can’t no more.
This is why I love kandi, because she’s always seeing the truth for what it is. Tocha just loves to have drama in her life and that’s why nothing ever works out for her.
The most horrible thing came out the Moms mouth she's jealous. She's being saying that to her daughter all her life Mommy has work to do. It's gonna have to start from the top. This is terrible parenting that CAN be fixed. The Mother is toxic. 🦋🦋💚💚
On the lighter side, O'Shun is all of us staring at our phones and fervently chewing gum all while listening to every single word in the heated exchange when her mom brings up laTocha and Rocky stealing her money! She also understood the assignment. Way to represent for the viewers!!!! Lol 🤣
All I see is ungratefulness. This is an opportunity for the Scott sisters to get ahead financially. Kandi and Tiny already have tons of money. This reality show for Kandi is her making money coins for her retirement. The sisters need to remember where they were before the reunion of xscape and be grateful that this door has open again. Too many times opportunity comes, and we don't appreciate it. The Braxton family could have done what the Kardashians did, (build an empire) but they too missed an opportunity to build their brand. All they did was fight! It shows that some families say they are united and loving but the camera reveals the truth!
@Lee Brown and your point? It doesn't matter. We each are responsible for our own lives. We can't blame or use our parents as a reason for sabotaging or causing an opportunity in our lives. Many people have become successful without the help of their parents.
@Lee Brown my parents are deceased. I decided to go into real estate. I own several properties etc. I wish my parents were alive to see what I have accomplished. Success is up to the individual as well.
Whew, lordy, Toscha and her mother are gaslighting the hell of of Tamika! Tag-teaming her left & right as they reject valid concerns, her explanations of misconduct against her, and the relentless browbeating to discredit her & make her think she's imagining wrongdoings. AWFUL. This is why her mother tried to stop the filming in this scene: the jig is up and people outside of their family circle can see clear as day that there is dysfunction and favoritism, with Tamika getting the short end of the stick (not to mention the short end of royalties she worked for and deserves). It's terrible to see someone have to endure this kind of treatment from the very people you would think are looking out for them and protecting them..
Anybody that doesn't believe SWV has had their share of issues with each other needs to watch their WE tv reality show. They know what they are talking about.
She's also capable of taking LaTocha place singing. Keep that adittude and watch your little sister soar. Good luck with resurrection of another solo attempt. Tamika keep financial information private.. DONT TRUST MOM EITHER.
I also dont understand why her mother would think Tamika would be jealous of Tocha. Tamika is a good singer, looks great, has a great family..i mean what does Tocha have that Tamika dont?
Is reverse psychology to mess with Tamika’s mind since she actually looks better in reality. My mom was also my first bully and promoted all my insecurities.
LaTocha have a main character complex, she always felt like she should have been the “lead” of Xscape and now we get to see how that plays out in her family dynamics. Their mother is the problem!
She technically was and is the lead of Xscape, if we talking about vocals. But is she the one who makes things happen for Xscape and the one with the connects? No that’s Kandi
@@tonnymitch4016 there was never really a lead, atleast not after being discovered by JD. Although, a lot of the songs written were tailored to Kandi’s voice, everyone played their individual roles. She just wanted recognition as lead so bad!
@yes no or maybe ? I agree, but childhood upbringing plays a major role in the behavior of adults today. Bad habits are hard to break regardless of age!
@@lovey_charm no I agree, there wasn’t an initial lead in the beginning. Kandi was on most of the leads on their first album, with Tocha assisting her with the leads here and there. But as time went on Tocha became the frontman and led on most of the songs, that’s where some of their problems began. By the 3rd album Tocha had officially became lead of the group, hence her diva attitude.
Yea, I'm late to the party. I literally watched the entire season, yesterday. It was a good show, I hope it is back for a second season. But after the dragging Latocha has endured on social media, I question if she may want to come back. THOUGH, since her gospel career seem like it may be DOA, she may not have much choice.
I dont even understand why big sis so big mad but did the most dirt but steady complaining, but Tamika ain't even holding no grudges not bringing past shyt up, just trying to move on and get her bag. Wtf!
I can certainly relate to Tamika. I understand her 100% . To experience this as a Child makes you make it a point to never do this to your own Children!! Trust me, being a Tamika has made me such a more mindful and better Mom to My own Children🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
Tamika is NEW FAN FAVORITE 🙌🏽.. She's TV GOLD 🤩.. She's SO cool, funny and most importantly LIKEABLE/LOVEABLE🥰.. She's a girls girl.. tha bestie everybody would want.. RHOA, ANDY AND EM'😄... GIVE MY GURL A PEACH 🍑
The momma is completely out of line ! I have a mom like that too! My brother can go to jail a million times and she got the house waiting for him when he gets out but let me need a place to stay … I better have my money up! And he and I don’t see eye to eye 🤦🏾♂️
I think Tocha always felt deep down that she was the moment, but her outward appearance in their prime didn't align with that notion and couldn't back that up according to industry standards. To be fair, she should have received her flowers because mama sang us down for decades. But, now that she has lost weight and thrown on a blonde wig and some eyelashes, she really thinks she's a whole beyonce out here. Then her mom has the nerve to mouth "she's jealous " while Tamika is talking. Jealous of what? Please run down all of the accomplishments that Beyonce (Tocha) has outside of her success in Xscape that would make Tamika jealous. I'll wait.
Exactly, she really comes off like she is aiming to be the Beyonce of the group, the one who breaks out and has a successful solo career. She WANTS to project confidence but I can tell that she is still insecure with herself though, she was such a negative presence in almost every single scene, someone that is happy within themselves would not act the way she does.
Who’s ever call it was to only give us an 6 episode limited series should be FIRED!!! LOVE THIS SHOW AND I THANK GOD FOR KANDI!!! One of the best shows in bravo HERstory!!! 🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾
I was hurt😥 watching Tameka breakdown because she crying out to her mother because she's hurt and feels unheard and instead the mother keeps grilling her watching that was giving me PTSD, people are so evil in how they treat each other..its sickening.
This was the beginning of the end for Latocha. I don't think those two will ever be completely right again. I think they may play nice, pray together, but it will never be the same
Is it really okay for a family to shame each other publicly? Especially on a subject such as this. Mama and two sisters should have resolved privately when it occurred. The money should have been returned to whomever it was owed.
There has been so much fuss on social media about this subject. Where is Rocky, the culprit ? Everyone is right and wrong on the subject. Here is why. Do unto others.... Let the culprit(s) know it was not okay and what do they plan to do to right their wrong and then maybe there can be some real forgiveness. Until then... Everyone has their responsibility to follow the golden rule, period and then this would not have happened in the first place! Tamika no one can ride your back unless it is bent.
This is so sad and exhausting. To be holding on to multiple things in the past that one cannot change.Therapy is really needed. I don't know how Tiny deal with it as she never carries the drama on tv. To old to be acting like such. Kudos to SWV for their maturity despite their disagreements and disappointments. They have had their fair share of issues but can keep it together.
She needs to go to therapy because obviously she has a bunch of unresolved issues. Pay your sister back her money and get yourself some healing. Tocha has always been the problem.
you cannot tell me you think tacha did NOT do that. kick backs. 30k pocketed and then some. tocha is a terrible sister. im so happy tamika found family in her own husband, daughter and friends❤
Imagine trying to make someone feel guilty about body shaming, meanwhile you stole 30,000 from your sister. I'm sorry that's a hard pill to swallow when family steal that amount of money.
WOW 😱😱😱😱???
Exactly. That was not body shaming. Tocha said that to get off of her husband cashing her sister's checks.
Tell me about it. One of my sisters stole that same exact amount of money from me too and when I got upset with her she just acted like I was the one that stole something from her. People don’t like to admit that they are wrong and they always try to blame others for their actions and mistakes but don’t ever admit it or apologize for it. SMDH! 🙄
Right. Keep in mind, it was over 30k.
Tamika you a loyal family member cause soon as I got evidence of her stealing $30,000 from me. Tocha and her husband would be explaining it to Civil and Criminal Court Judge. Family or No Family.💯
"Mama got quiet! Just like she quiet now!" 😲
That will go down in reality TV history.
That line was straight out of a Tyler Perry production....for sure! Had me clutching my pearls!
Baby it touched my spirit
@@neshlane1509 right?!?! I 100% asked myself, "Am I watching a Tyler Perry Studios production right now?" Nonetheless, it will live rent free in my head! Call it out Tamika! Call it out!!!
Exactly
@@neshlane1509 🤣👍
LaTocha has insecurities that she recognizes when it's convenient for her. She deflects and takes things out on the group. From the many interactions I've seen her have with her husband, it seems like she is scared of him. She disguises her fear of him by hiding behind him by letting him take over on her "behalf".
Well said!
@yesnoormaybe1207 Right. People like her pride themselves on their "partnerships" even if it's at someone else's expense. Then have the audacity to still "require" loyalty. She's unhappy, lonely, and scared in her "partnership", but would rather suffer than to admit it. FOH
Exactly
AND STILL MAD ABOUT some show in boca raton 20 years ago. She ain fat no moe soooo why she mad, she does have that black girl magic beauty and sexiness now sooooo GIR, WATS YA BEEF AND YA ATTITUDE FOR. ANNND SEE HOW WHEN YOU DO BIZNESS WITH FAMILY, AND THEY CANT TAKE TGE PERSONAL OUT OF BIZNESS. HMPH
I don’t think Tocha is afraid of Rocky…I THINK TOCHA IS AFRAID OF LOSING ROCKY.
Something in her doesn’t want to be WITHOUT him so she’s holding onto him by any means necessary.
I’m done watching the full episode…I 1000% BELIEVE ROCKY STOLE TAMIKA’S ROYALTY CHECKS! Tocha wants a husband so bad though🤣 she can’t see past his d!kc! Tocha believes everything that comes out of his mouth.
That first episode made me a ride or die for Tamika. I understand her so much better now! She’s always felt alone and like she wasn’t good enough. And that’s because she grew up in a home being alone and treated like she wasn’t as good as her sister. And to the ones that commented, asking why Tamika brought her daughter to the sit down with her mom and sister … Because she wanted support! Her daughters are her support system since she doesn’t get that from her mom and sister. They gang up on her and Mike it 2 against one. So she has support when 1 of her daughters is there.
Not to mention, her daughter is in her late 20’s, so this is completely appropriate. I would be there for my mother the same way. Saddd, from the mama all the way down.
I thought she daughter as back up in case a fight broke out.
@@loveyloves2 Her daughter is in her late 20's?! They could be sisters!
@@Exxtol1 yes ma’am. If you watch the full episode, they record Tamika and her daughter driving to her mothers home for the “intervention” with her sister and they display her daughters name and age, I believe she’s 27.
@@loveyloves2 her daughter bout to be 29
Coko: “We don’t communicate either, we just get on stage and get them coins!” PERIOD!!!!
welp... lmao
RIGHT!!! Let’s get this money!
Right let's get this money
Hahahaha, they do communicate now, according to Coko. COKO said she is more mindful of her words now, whereas young Coko wasn't mindful.
@@veelynah6306 Coko is bipolar so I imagine she was hell on wheels unmedicated in the 90s.
Their mother should be ashamed of herself...
She better be careful doing that kind of stuff, GOD us watching....Just sayin...🙏🏾
Why Should her Mother be Ashamed 🙄. These Ladies are Grown. I don't see any children in the room💅🏾
@@shellyt1453 because, being MORE GROWN, she shouldn’t say things behind one of her children’s back. Especially calling one jealous of the other secretly.
If you really feel that way, as a parent, you have a problem. That’s not right.
She's not Narcs think their entitled
@@shellyt1453 Can you see how she is totally ignoring Tamika's feelings c'mon the girl is hurt. They stole her money. Her mom even admitted but didn't want it exposed on TV. Tocha is just dismissive and selfish.
Gloria is clearly in the wrong. Bringing division, remaining silent, or being complicit in the fallout between siblings is never okay as the parent. Gloria should be ashamed of herself. She is at fault for allowing this to continue for decades and upholding Tocha while knowing she and her husband, Rocky, stole from her daughter. What message is she sending to Tamika; that her life and feelings didn't matter? Where the hell is Iyanla Vanzant when you need her!?! Dammit!
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Divide and conquer
That part I hate when grow folks think they can be a doctor or therapist but in reality they don’t know nothing
How she said we family and I can’t do nothing about it and the mama said imma do something about it…sounds like she gone do something about it to the one who said it aka tosha…. The other one trying to clown her sister when kandy and tiny clearly don’t like her …smh …people do anything for a friend
Every time me & my sister have EVER been mad at each other my mother made sure it didn’t last. And it was never over anything to be upset about. But to see the way the mother has behaved is disheartening.
I believe her when she said they stole her money. She said it with such Conviction from her Soul. The Momma got real quiet■
And her sister got real uncomfortable then tried to lie but we could see the shame on her face
She has proof that she stole her royalties checks and deposit it into Bobby's bank account.
Shutting production then at her car said you don't know what was going on they may have needed money....what more than pregnant single parent Tamika that earned it??? Seems it was split three ways..
Latosha and the mother is the problem
The mom saying “and that offended you?” But is talking about Tamika being wrong for “body shaming” Tocha.. smh
Straight up gaslighting!
That part!
Exactly!!! It’s like her feelings don’t matter.
BOOM!!!
Mann when she said her mama always defended tocha that automatically proved her point to me
Coco's wisdom went right past her head, but truthfully its the only thing that needed to be said. You don't have to "get along" in order to get on stage and make your coins. Learn to separate business and personal. Period.
This is the real that reality TV has been missing.
Yes. I felt that.
Families falling apart?
Yes
@@poplover6672 families not covering up the fact that they are falling apart.
@@thejuiceradioandtalkshow ok
I’m loving Ms. Tamika. She’s TV gold.
She's toxic hunni same as her mother and sister, just toxic people.
Although Tamika is the youngest of the two sisters she's the outgoing and likeable one that makes friends easily. Kandi and Tiny are her friends from school, so that says a lot right there.
Normally I would agree that family business should be private, but in this case the secrecy is toxic. I can tell this is painful for her🥺💔
Y'all know what I extremely love about the last scene and it really shows what great of a PARENT Tamika is. Her GROWN daughter didn't say a word she has mad RESPECT even though grandma n auntie was treating her mother wrong.
Yep… because this grown daughter …grandma and auntie would have got the business!!!! I tolerate zero disrespect to the mother who carried me for 9 months! Anybody can get it!
@@shawnparis3123 Shit grown son would have gotten in some asses that day.
That "You stole my money!" Still hits different 💯💔
I’m tellin you. I was in tears for Tamika because ….that’s just not right.
That hurt tf outta me. I was routing for Tocha this entire time
Tocha has always been a problem. She has not realized that she cannot stand on her OWN. She is who she is because of Xscape.
That husband got her head gone
@@laydenreeves8706 yep
@@laydenreeves8706 Ain't that the truth
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We don't want it especially after seeing how she is trying to get it. Coko gets it and she can blow
I hate when parents add to the conflict of their children by favoring 1 over the others
That part!!!
Yup. Its toxic and childish. I grew up with an older brother l. Just us 2 and he was always favored just cause he was a Black man. Happens too often. Smh
My mom favors her no education jail bird of a son over me the baby and I never got in any trouble with the law in fact I worked with the government and went to school.
But that's who she favors because he's always giving her whatever she wants and he doesn't talk back or let her know that she's wrong about certain things.
I AM very honest but also very respectful about it and none confrontational unless you come for me then all bets are off.
Tocha, are you not tied yet? We tied, sis!
I See Why The Group Treat Latocha the way they do 😏
The group had no reason to mistreat her. Mature female sit down and talk
What am I missing? How is LaTocha being mistreated?
@@gailedwards4197 if that’s the case, why did Latocha do what she did?
@@gailedwards4197 that story line has run dry.
LaTocha has always been a problem and her husband too looks like he's been wearing the same black clothes for yrs he looks like he's stuck in the 90s her solo career is going to be just like the 1st time she tried to go Solo Tamika told her your good to be broke again and I'm thing Layoffs is jealous of Tamika bc her and her husband are wannabees The Group don't need her and the mother should be ashamed too 🤔🤎🖤🗣️ CALIFORNIA ♥️😎
It’s so crazy cause I initially felt bad for Tocha, but this show has opened up my eyes that she was and still is the problem.
I said the same thing!!! Now I see what they mean about tocha
She had no problem telling Tameka to kiss her a** but when Tameka claps back she doesn’t have one, she mad? The group got “internal issues”? Nah. LaTocha is the one with the issues, her ego, big girl mentality, that solo career that will never be and Rocky… pick a struggle ma.
what's a "big girl mentality"? Don't do that
@@BeGood4Eva I’m not trying to be funny or anything. I just think she’s still insecure about being “big” despite being small and hasn’t dealt with the emotional trauma she might have experienced when she was a big girl.
@@MosesJD86 , I agree it’s like she always has a chip on shoulder regarding her looks from the past, I feel like she is trying to overcompensate her insecurities into the way she looks now. For example the blonde hair looks atrocious on her, not everyone looks good as a blonde, it looks tacky on her! She really needs a stylist! But let’s not forget her attitude stinks, and the way she treats her own sister is disgusting 🤢! There is absolutely nothing Like able about her…
Yes John...on everything🙋🏽♀️🙌🏽👏🏽
@@msandoval8027 now imma disagree with you on the looks thing, she looks amazing with the blonde. i might not like her but i give credit where its due. she been slaying lately. she looks beautiful. her attitude just really blows me. i think she’s still insecure
My parents treated my brother and I equally. For Tamika to feel that way there is absolutely a grain of truth to what she's saying. A lot of parents don't even realize they play favorites.
They do
She knows
@@debbiewatson2690 I think with things like that parents are in denial about playing favorites, but yes, you're right. They have to know on some level because my mom was big about us knowing that she loved us both equally.
Right! I have 8 brothers and sisters 8 of them we don’t fight we don’t argue none of that it’s rare we have had some disagreements and there were once my sister was really pisses at me back when I had a lot of anger issues but we all get along that’s crazy o wouldn’t take 30 cent from my sister without asking why?
Love this show! The Tamika's are so down to earth, fun, and the realest. Love all the ladies of Xscape and SWV!
This show puts the reality in reality tv. Taj was spot on and spoke a word. I will definitely be reviewing this show
The mother is the root of the problem between the sisters. She loves to see her daughter Tamika hurt and the other one happy and she favors.
You got that out of this tiny scene??
@@QueensFirst Yes, it’s obvious you numb skull.
@@QueensFirstI mean there probably more to it since no one corrected the favored one attitude even in adult hood while the others are suffering
I can’t stand Tocha and her stank attitude
She was a dark cloud in almost every scene, cold, distant and face screwed up.
I like seeing Kandi and Tiny in their element. This is what I know them for.
Right
Latocha doesn’t realize that SHE is the internal issue lmaoo
Tocha is so damn bitter and entitled acting! Ain’t nobody ever been checking for your solo albums boo! Kandi revived your career! You should be thankful!
Kandi is the most successful prominent member although Tocha has always tried to make her feel inferior
Exactly!
Tocha has bad energy and I suspect was the problem back in the day
Tocha seems jealous that other people are getting the spotlight. If you can sustain a solo career, do it and live in peace.
I don't know who she is jealous of because and Kandi and Tiny has always been the spot light.
That hit hard when she said…”like she’s quiet now…” smh..
I remember some years ago Tamika saying her mother was managing their money. The mother took $10,000 of her and her sister money and gave it to the church. The pastor made an announcement during service thanking them. The sisters didn’t have a clue the mother donated their money without their consent. The mother and the sister are a mess. The husband is using her …this is one of R.Kelly guys from his camp. Family can be worse then a stranger.
Wow! I did not know that Lowtocha husband was part of R. Kelly's group.
I think you may be mixing them up, I believe it was Tamika's husband who was in R. Kelly's camp, I believe he worked security for him at one point. He is the big burly guy.
@@arganiaspinosa9122 LaTocha's husband is from R. Kelly's old 90s camp. I remember reading it way back when they got together and she hesitantly confirmed it during this show during a confessional.
Me and her said “oh mana quite now?” At the same time, I howled 🤣
Having a narc mom and sibling is the worse. They are co dependent of one another and manipulate the truth to make themselves look like victims. It’s exhausting trying to always defend yourself against their outburst of insecurities that are always directed at the child that isn’t easily manipulated and calls them out on their b.s. It causes trust issues. If you can’t trust your own Mom and sibling, you tend to either search for the connection else where…. your granny, aunt, older female cousin or that “ play or God mother. You love your actual mother, but you never really feel loved. And anytime they’re nice, it’s because they have a motive. Oh, and don’t you dare have a relationship with your father( the man that made your mom bitter) cause you will really be outcasted. The sad part is, that sibling that the narc mom favors will not wanna be bothered with the mom in old age, unless an inheritance is involved. The child that is treated the worse will be the one wiping mama’s behind when she can’t no more.
This is why I love kandi, because she’s always seeing the truth for what it is. Tocha just loves to have drama in her life and that’s why nothing ever works out for her.
i don't think latocha realized how bad she was gonna look on this show........ yikes
Girl latocha is always mad about something
That man 😂
She nerve wrecking!
Herself
Just an unhappy person
Except her unnecessary runs and swollen face 😩🙄
The most horrible thing came out the Moms mouth she's jealous. She's being saying that to her daughter all her life Mommy has work to do. It's gonna have to start from the top. This is terrible parenting that CAN be fixed. The Mother is toxic. 🦋🦋💚💚
Sis was always my mom gold child
Remember scene where later Tamika placed boundaries?? Mommy dearest eyes looking like a shark and pain evident in Tamika during hug...
On the lighter side, O'Shun is all of us staring at our phones and fervently chewing gum all while listening to every single word in the heated exchange when her mom brings up laTocha and Rocky stealing her money! She also understood the assignment. Way to represent for the viewers!!!! Lol 🤣
LaTocha and Coko have let their inflated egos get them nowhere. All that vocal talent they possess and cant sell a an album solo to save their lives!
When Tamika brought up the MONEY they stole her $30,000.00. They are still quite.
That's the issue. They did take the money and all the bs they thrown at Mika is out of guilt.
Also, kicked out the tv crew🤣🤣🤣
quiet…
All I see is ungratefulness. This is an opportunity for the Scott sisters to get ahead financially. Kandi and Tiny already have tons of money. This reality show for Kandi is her making money coins for her retirement. The sisters need to remember where they were before the reunion of xscape and be grateful that this door has open again. Too many times opportunity comes, and we don't appreciate it. The Braxton family could have done what the Kardashians did, (build an empire) but they too missed an opportunity to build their brand. All they did was fight! It shows that some families say they are united and loving but the camera reveals the truth!
@Lee Brown and your point? It doesn't matter. We each are responsible for our own lives. We can't blame or use our parents as a reason for sabotaging or causing an opportunity in our lives. Many people have become successful without the help of their parents.
@Lee Brown my parents are deceased. I decided to go into real estate. I own several properties etc. I wish my parents were alive to see what I have accomplished. Success is up to the individual as well.
2:57 Every mom when siblings fight 😂
Tamika’s daughter in the background looking so unbothered as her mama shakes the table is too cute!
It's wonderful she has her mom's back. With her as witness and video proof they won't be able to make her second guess. Nope proof is in the cameras.
i missed seeing SWV and Xscape on my tv screens I loved their reality shows Great first episode im rooting for them all ❤️❤️❤️
I am so disappointed in LaTocha, how could you steal from your own sister! 😳
We don't know what happen. How come this didn't come up on the reality show in 2017.
@@brendaspringfield care to update us now😅
I'm glad Tamika finally found the strength in that split second to get the truth out...I'm proud of her and I BELIEVE her
Tameeka is reality TV gold 😊
Whew, lordy, Toscha and her mother are gaslighting the hell of of Tamika! Tag-teaming her left & right as they reject valid concerns, her explanations of misconduct against her, and the relentless browbeating to discredit her & make her think she's imagining wrongdoings. AWFUL. This is why her mother tried to stop the filming in this scene: the jig is up and people outside of their family circle can see clear as day that there is dysfunction and favoritism, with Tamika getting the short end of the stick (not to mention the short end of royalties she worked for and deserves). It's terrible to see someone have to endure this kind of treatment from the very people you would think are looking out for them and protecting them..
I think Latocha is looking for a way out so she’s using body shaming as an excuse or narrative to do so instead of just saying I WANT OUT!
Whew this is real tv! 🔥🔥🔥
Anybody that doesn't believe SWV has had their share of issues with each other needs to watch their WE tv reality show. They know what they are talking about.
Tamika is a wonderful vocalist and it's a shame shes been made to feel less than her sister. Tocha is shady! And their mom is complicit
She's also capable of taking LaTocha place singing. Keep that adittude and watch your little sister soar. Good luck with resurrection of another solo attempt. Tamika keep financial information private.. DONT TRUST MOM EITHER.
@@debbyvibbert3177 FACTS! 💯
Rewatching this after I just saw the XSCAPE (3) / SWV concert on Saturday! So glad they worked out the issues 🥰
Tamika is a whole vibe❤I have so much respect for her! God got you
I also dont understand why her mother would think Tamika would be jealous of Tocha. Tamika is a good singer, looks great, has a great family..i mean what does Tocha have that Tamika dont?
Nuthin 🤷🏽♀️
I was scratching my head wondering the same thing 🤔
😂😂😂 Just talking out her butt!!
Is reverse psychology to mess with Tamika’s mind since she actually looks better in reality. My mom was also my first bully and promoted all my insecurities.
You right amen!
LaTocha have a main character complex, she always felt like she should have been the “lead” of Xscape and now we get to see how that plays out in her family dynamics. Their mother is the problem!
She technically was and is the lead of Xscape, if we talking about vocals. But is she the one who makes things happen for Xscape and the one with the connects? No that’s Kandi
She was the lead!
@@tonnymitch4016 there was never really a lead, atleast not after being discovered by JD. Although, a lot of the songs written were tailored to Kandi’s voice, everyone played their individual roles. She just wanted recognition as lead so bad!
@yes no or maybe ? I agree, but childhood upbringing plays a major role in the behavior of adults today. Bad habits are hard to break regardless of age!
@@lovey_charm no I agree, there wasn’t an initial lead in the beginning. Kandi was on most of the leads on their first album, with Tocha assisting her with the leads here and there. But as time went on Tocha became the frontman and led on most of the songs, that’s where some of their problems began. By the 3rd album Tocha had officially became lead of the group, hence her diva attitude.
Im obsessed with this show , it’s eating Real Housewives of Atlanta & Potomac up 🗣🗣
Yea, I'm late to the party. I literally watched the entire season, yesterday. It was a good show, I hope it is back for a second season. But after the dragging Latocha has endured on social media, I question if she may want to come back. THOUGH, since her gospel career seem like it may be DOA, she may not have much choice.
I dont even understand why big sis so big mad but did the most dirt but steady complaining, but Tamika ain't even holding no grudges not bringing past shyt up, just trying to move on and get her bag. Wtf!
Facts
I hope we get a season 2.. this is the direction Bravo needs to be going in!
Don Juan said it's only a 6 episode show, like Porsha's show.
@@AAA-0079 Too bad. I love this show. I wish it was 8 episodes at least.
SWV looking at them like wtf 🤣
"You know what? i'm gonna do something about it in a few minutes." 😆😆
i know that tone!
I can certainly relate to Tamika. I understand her 100% . To experience this as a Child makes you make it a point to never do this to your own Children!! Trust me, being a Tamika has made me such a more mindful and better Mom to My own Children🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
Tamika is NEW FAN FAVORITE 🙌🏽.. She's TV GOLD 🤩.. She's SO cool, funny and most importantly LIKEABLE/LOVEABLE🥰.. She's a girls girl.. tha bestie everybody would want.. RHOA, ANDY AND EM'😄... GIVE MY GURL A PEACH 🍑
Really remove that toxic trollop using her nephews for storyline. Replace with Tamika.
Tamika is trying but her Tasha refuses to meet her half way and mom continues to Side-Jeff.
Team Tamika All The Way Baby!
Perhaps Kandi Burress and Tiny can prove it for Xscape and SWV moment! ❤️💕
Proved what ??
1:08 TY COCO YESS have your issues but don't let it interfere with work ...the show must go on
Love it cause they understand the assignment. It's reality TV. Reality TV gives exactly what they are given. Scripted drama and arguing. Love it.
Tamika should have her whole own show! Love her! ❤️
I can appreciate the maturity of SWV and mama and Tocha or gaslighting the hell out of Tamika 😢
LaTochas mannerisms remind me of Phaedra, sitting and acting like she didn't do anything 🙄.
Haha ur so on point! True that
Mama got quiet just like she's quiet right now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The momma is completely out of line ! I have a mom like that too! My brother can go to jail a million times and she got the house waiting for him when he gets out but let me need a place to stay … I better have my money up! And he and I don’t see eye to eye 🤦🏾♂️
I’m over Tocha! Just go on with out her y’all been doing it when she was not showing up for the shows. She need therapy
I love SWVs energy !!!
I think Tocha always felt deep down that she was the moment, but her outward appearance in their prime didn't align with that notion and couldn't back that up according to industry standards. To be fair, she should have received her flowers because mama sang us down for decades. But, now that she has lost weight and thrown on a blonde wig and some eyelashes, she really thinks she's a whole beyonce out here. Then her mom has the nerve to mouth "she's jealous " while Tamika is talking. Jealous of what? Please run down all of the accomplishments that Beyonce (Tocha) has outside of her success in Xscape that would make Tamika jealous. I'll wait.
Her mom is toxic af. I'd cut her off completely.
Exactly, she really comes off like she is aiming to be the Beyonce of the group, the one who breaks out and has a successful solo career. She WANTS to project confidence but I can tell that she is still insecure with herself though, she was such a negative presence in almost every single scene, someone that is happy within themselves would not act the way she does.
Koko basically said we don’t communicate either this just a job 😂
Who’s ever call it was to only give us an 6 episode limited series should be FIRED!!! LOVE THIS SHOW AND I THANK GOD FOR KANDI!!! One of the best shows in bravo HERstory!!! 🙌🏾✨🙌🏾✨🙌🏾
You wanna go to jail ? cause you still can 😂
I was hurt😥 watching Tameka breakdown because she crying out to her mother because she's hurt and feels unheard and instead the mother keeps grilling her watching that was giving me PTSD, people are so evil in how they treat each other..its sickening.
Tamika said Momma got quiet, just like she quiet now!!!
REALITY TV GOLD!!!!!!!!
This was the beginning of the end for Latocha. I don't think those two will ever be completely right again. I think they may play nice, pray together, but it will never be the same
"The big girl sounded really good"
I'm sorry, but I busted out laughing when she said that! 😂
Can’t wait to see new episode tonight 💜💜
Chil'...when Tamika stood up...! 😮
Tocha is a perpetual victim even when she is the perpetrator and her mother is her enabler.
"The big girl sung good" hilarious
The mother also whispers "she's jealous of you". The mommy is the problem
Some ppl don't understand that there are times you just have no choice but to cut off communication with family....period!!!!
The first episode made me love Tamika more. And totally disgusted with Tocha and Mama Gloria. I also fell more in love with Tahj
Kandi is my spirit animal 😂🥰
Is it really okay for a family to shame each other publicly? Especially on a subject such as this. Mama and two sisters should have resolved privately when it occurred. The money should have been returned to whomever it was owed.
Obviously mom is not going to...No doubt she also profited.
There has been so much fuss on social media about this subject. Where is Rocky, the culprit ? Everyone is right and wrong on the subject.
Here is why. Do unto others....
Let the culprit(s) know it was not okay and what do they plan to do to right their wrong and then maybe there can be some real forgiveness. Until then...
Everyone has their responsibility to follow the golden rule, period
and then this would not have happened in the first place! Tamika no one can ride your back unless it is bent.
This is so sad and exhausting. To be holding on to multiple things in the past that one cannot change.Therapy is really needed. I don't know how Tiny deal with it as she never carries the drama on tv. To old to be acting like such. Kudos to SWV for their maturity despite their disagreements and disappointments. They have had their fair share of issues but can keep it together.
She needs to go to therapy because obviously she has a bunch of unresolved issues. Pay your sister back her money and get yourself some healing. Tocha has always been the problem.
you cannot tell me you think tacha did NOT do that. kick backs. 30k pocketed and then some. tocha is a terrible sister. im so happy tamika found family in her own husband, daughter and friends❤
LeLee! You said that!
Great first episode- all the ladies look great. Lessgooooo!