Wow, this was really helpful, thank you so much! You really explained all in a very clear way. I was very confused about HLG and D-Log, and also rec. 709, etc. Soooo good. Thanks for this! Cheers from Lisbon
Thank you so much for your tutorial. I accidentally shot in HLG, and I was really discouraged about the colorization. 😟But your lut and explanations saved my life. Many thanks!😊
Hello, I don't know how to thank you for the precious news. No one told me what I learned from watching your video. I did some tests with the Pocket 3 and I must say that HLG really gives better results than D-Log M. Since my English is not good, it is not my native language, I didn't understand something well and I would like to ask you 2 questions please: 1) How much is HLG less flexible in postproduction compared to D-Log M? In other words, if a clip was shot wrong, if it is overexposed or underexposed, can you improve it more with D-Log M because it has a better dynamic range? But how much better? 2) I downloaded your Lut and installed it on Edius, like a miracle that Lut fixes a clip in HLG in a flash, but I noticed that all the clips come out overexposed by 1-2 apertures . But is it normal? Did you make that Lut like that on purpose? Thanks again.
Thank you for your feedback and I’m glad you’ve been able to try out HLG. HLG is really impressive on this camera but I found takes a little bit of testing to get the results you really like. For number 1 I think the HLG is a bit more flexible but you’d want to make sure to not too severely overexpose or underexpose as that can be hard to correct. For number 2 it mainly depends upon the exposure settings you had when filming. Mine was set to -0.5 and this meant I had to bring up my exposure a little bit when editing. Since this is primarily designed to be a conversion LUT you should be able to bump down your exposure levels a bit if needed.
Hi, if I shoot in HLG, so I need to do what you did in this video or use your LUT to convert it to rec709, then I can use other vintage filters like LUT with rec709 etc? I'm an absolute beginner and all those color grading is a bit advanced for me for now. But I want to know how to add those pre-made "filters and grain" to make the result less "action cam and phone" like and a bit more film look...well yes I know it can't compare to proper camera but I just want to do what I can for now. Thanks for the help!
Thank you. Yes, that is correct. Main reasons to use Rec.709 would be if a monitor doesn’t support HDR for the one editing the video files or if one doesn’t want to wait for the upload on TH-cam to take a few days to have the HDR capability available.
This video finally unleashed the full potential of my Pocket 3. Honestly, I was disappointed by the normal color profile - the blacks were too black, some yellows were weird, it just looked unnatural. DLog-M was not much better, especially shooting in low-light conditions, just crushed those blacks. HLG really does the job though, - the dynamic range is great, plenty of space to color grade, no weird artefacts - I love it! Thank you for sharing the lut with us, it makes it so much easier!
Have you made a video on 24fps and 60fps ? Do you always use 60fps? Using the DJI osmo pocket 3 If I'm going to put the op3 in my backpack and make walking videos , is 24fps good enough? I don't intend to do any slo-mo ever
Goddamnit man I love you. Thank you for this and the LUT bro, it's massively helpful! Only issue is that when using your LUT, my footage still looks really blown out and overexposed... any idea why that might be? I'm using a MacBook Pro 2023 M2 model and PP working in 709.
You’re welcome! So there are a few possibilities with this. I would say first of all make sure the footage you are capturing isn’t overexposed to begin with. If it isn’t overexposed then the next thing to check is to make sure everything in Premiere Pro is in the same Rec.709 color space including the footage itself and the project settings. The MacBook Pro 2023 M2 is a great model and will plow through this footage with no problem so I know it’s not a device issue for you.
Thanks a lot, now I know how to deal with hlg files. I purchased pocket3 last month for daily life recording and I clip tons of life footage every week. There is still a problem that bothers me during the actual pocket3 hlg footage shooting process. The hlg has a noticeable grayish cast in low-light environments or small light ratios, should I recognize this and quickly restore the colors? Or should I set it up at the time of shooting so that all footage can be used directly for editing?
This is a very useful video for me. Thank you. I made an hdr (hlg) video as you suggested. However, since it is a 1 hour 20 minute video (588GB), it cannot be uploaded to TH-cam. TH-cam explains that it is limited to 256GB. What should I do in this case?
I’m glad you found this helpful. So I would recommend exporting at a lower bitrate if the bitrate you exported at is high. I recommend a bitrate of 56Mbps if the frame rate is 24 or 30 fps.
@user-qm8ge3pw8y When you export in Premiere Pro you can adjust this. In this video I show how to set these settings: th-cam.com/video/SMFlauItit0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8o7TFv1S8IMekBuv
@@GreatDayForAHike The video shot at hlg 4K 60 frames was color graded at 2100hlg, and as you mentioned, the color correction changed when exported at h.264 bitrate at 80. Overexposed. Am I doing something wrong?
@user-qm8ge3pw8y Check out the specific settings I mention starting at 9:55 in this video for export. It will have to be either QuickTime or h.265 for the codec in order to support the HDR. The h.264 will not support the HDR. Using h.265 will result in a smaller file size than QuickTime without a significant reduction in quality.
@@GreatDayForAHike I have a question though. ive tried this and uploaded my video in youtube but it doesnt says HDR after the 2160p, it supposed to say 2160p HDR. where did i go wrong?
@roundaroundplaces How long ago did you upload? I found that depending on length of the video it can take several days sometimes before the HDR feature becomes available.
Hi...I am having Dji Mic connection issue green light blinks but own't turn to blue light for correct proper connection. Tried several times no luck,is there how to reset the dji mic? Thx.
@GreatDayForAHike yes,it came with Dji pocket3 shipment but it will not link keeps blinking w/green light and does not turn to blue to complete setup link for some reason.
@E9ONE1 Okay great, just wanted to confirm which version of the Mic. To pair it you’ll want to power on your Pocket 3 and swipe down to the mic pairing mode. Then power on your Mic 2 and hold down the Bluetooth/link button on the mic until it turns a solid blue. The Mic should then pair.
@GreatDayForAHike I do see only one button on the side one record button what other button is there? This is Dji mic came with my pocket3 order shipment. No matter how long I hold the record button and how many time I tried to pair it No Blue light at all,just green light blinks.
Not a great Colorista here but how well would the "Auto" button under Basic Corrections fair grading these kind of files? I use the Auto quite often to just get a slight boost in my Auto color mode footage from Drone and Pocket.
Great question. Auto does do pretty well these days and can be a great starting point if you want to do that first and then add a few finishing touches.
I have recorded hlg content using pocket 3 I am using davinci bcoz i have everything and its faster But problem is when i added luts dedicated to pocket 3 and then activated hdr my footage became complete pitch black
Can I ask, why ever use D-Log? If HLG is 10bit HDR, can be colour graded, has great range and can also be exported as SDR, what's the purpose of D-Log? I'm definitely I'm confused by this! 😂
D-Log M is easier to work with than HLG footage. HLG’s core benefit is with HDR workflows and most content creators prefer to work with Rec.709 color space simply because HDR is still not that big of a thing. In other words the extra work with HLG to Rec.709 may not be worth it to most when D-Log M can get great results in Rec.709, even if not quite as good as HLG. That is my take on this.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the reply! I guess that's what surprises me, that HDR is still not considered a 'standard' enough that more people are working in it. All my devices have HDR, and I assumed it was as ubiquitous as 4K now, but I guess that will still take some time then. :)
the video tutorial was good, however, you forgot some key points and skipped some tabs that need to be dealt with, like the display format, maybe you're recording in30fps that's why you didn't tackle that one but not all are doing that, some are doing 60fps or 24fps.
Wow, this was really helpful, thank you so much! You really explained all in a very clear way. I was very confused about HLG and D-Log, and also rec. 709, etc. Soooo good. Thanks for this! Cheers from Lisbon
You’re welcome and I’m glad this was helpful.
Thank you so much for your tutorial. I accidentally shot in HLG, and I was really discouraged about the colorization. 😟But your lut and explanations saved my life. Many thanks!😊
You’re welcome! I’m glad this video was able to help you.
This is an incredibly useful tutorial, thanks very much for taking the time to record this.
You’re welcome and I’m glad you found this useful.
Hello, I don't know how to thank you for the precious news. No one told me what I learned from watching your video. I did some tests with the Pocket 3 and I must say that HLG really gives better results than D-Log M.
Since my English is not good, it is not my native language, I didn't understand something well and I would like to ask you 2 questions please:
1) How much is HLG less flexible in postproduction compared to D-Log M? In other words, if a clip was shot wrong, if it is overexposed or underexposed, can you improve it more with D-Log M because it has a better dynamic range? But how much better?
2) I downloaded your Lut and installed it on Edius, like a miracle that Lut fixes a clip in HLG in a flash, but I noticed that all the clips come out overexposed by 1-2 apertures . But is it normal? Did you make that Lut like that on purpose?
Thanks again.
Thank you for your feedback and I’m glad you’ve been able to try out HLG. HLG is really impressive on this camera but I found takes a little bit of testing to get the results you really like.
For number 1 I think the HLG is a bit more flexible but you’d want to make sure to not too severely overexpose or underexpose as that can be hard to correct.
For number 2 it mainly depends upon the exposure settings you had when filming. Mine was set to -0.5 and this meant I had to bring up my exposure a little bit when editing. Since this is primarily designed to be a conversion LUT you should be able to bump down your exposure levels a bit if needed.
Hi, if I shoot in HLG, so I need to do what you did in this video or use your LUT to convert it to rec709, then I can use other vintage filters like LUT with rec709 etc? I'm an absolute beginner and all those color grading is a bit advanced for me for now. But I want to know how to add those pre-made "filters and grain" to make the result less "action cam and phone" like and a bit more film look...well yes I know it can't compare to proper camera but I just want to do what I can for now. Thanks for the help!
Nice work! I like the way you explain it in an easy to learn way. Had no clue how to do HLG but now I do! Thank you!
You’re welcome and thank you for your feedback!
Thank you for the video!
I've read that HDR is backward compatible with SDR, so why use REC709? Any thoughts on that?
Thank you. Yes, that is correct. Main reasons to use Rec.709 would be if a monitor doesn’t support HDR for the one editing the video files or if one doesn’t want to wait for the upload on TH-cam to take a few days to have the HDR capability available.
the LUT looks amazing!
Thank you!
This video finally unleashed the full potential of my Pocket 3. Honestly, I was disappointed by the normal color profile - the blacks were too black, some yellows were weird, it just looked unnatural. DLog-M was not much better, especially shooting in low-light conditions, just crushed those blacks. HLG really does the job though, - the dynamic range is great, plenty of space to color grade, no weird artefacts - I love it! Thank you for sharing the lut with us, it makes it so much easier!
I appreciate the feedback. HLG is definitely my favorite mode on the Pocket 3 and really produces great results, even in the Rec.709 color space.
So if i got it right, dlog-m is not usable for HDR? I need to use HLG to create hdr footage?
@@yannickputtemans yeah, dlog-m sucks. It has worse dynamic range than normal color profile.
@yannickputtemans9896 You got it. Exactly. HLG is the HDR option.
Have you made a video on 24fps and 60fps ? Do you always use 60fps? Using the DJI osmo pocket 3
If I'm going to put the op3 in my backpack and make walking videos , is 24fps good enough? I don't intend to do any slo-mo ever
Goddamnit man I love you. Thank you for this and the LUT bro, it's massively helpful! Only issue is that when using your LUT, my footage still looks really blown out and overexposed... any idea why that might be? I'm using a MacBook Pro 2023 M2 model and PP working in 709.
You’re welcome! So there are a few possibilities with this. I would say first of all make sure the footage you are capturing isn’t overexposed to begin with. If it isn’t overexposed then the next thing to check is to make sure everything in Premiere Pro is in the same Rec.709 color space including the footage itself and the project settings. The MacBook Pro 2023 M2 is a great model and will plow through this footage with no problem so I know it’s not a device issue for you.
Thanks a lot, now I know how to deal with hlg files.
I purchased pocket3 last month for daily life recording and I clip tons of life footage every week. There is still a problem that bothers me during the actual pocket3 hlg footage shooting process.
The hlg has a noticeable grayish cast in low-light environments or small light ratios, should I recognize this and quickly restore the colors? Or should I set it up at the time of shooting so that all footage can be used directly for editing?
This is a very useful video for me. Thank you. I made an hdr (hlg) video as you suggested. However, since it is a 1 hour 20 minute video (588GB), it cannot be uploaded to TH-cam. TH-cam explains that it is limited to 256GB. What should I do in this case?
I’m glad you found this helpful. So I would recommend exporting at a lower bitrate if the bitrate you exported at is high. I recommend a bitrate of 56Mbps if the frame rate is 24 or 30 fps.
@@GreatDayForAHike It's 24 frames. Where should I set it in Premiere Pro?
@user-qm8ge3pw8y When you export in Premiere Pro you can adjust this. In this video I show how to set these settings: th-cam.com/video/SMFlauItit0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8o7TFv1S8IMekBuv
@@GreatDayForAHike
The video shot at hlg 4K 60 frames was color graded at 2100hlg, and as you mentioned, the color correction changed when exported at h.264 bitrate at 80. Overexposed. Am I doing something wrong?
@user-qm8ge3pw8y Check out the specific settings I mention starting at 9:55 in this video for export. It will have to be either QuickTime or h.265 for the codec in order to support the HDR. The h.264 will not support the HDR. Using h.265 will result in a smaller file size than QuickTime without a significant reduction in quality.
i like it. thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome.
@@GreatDayForAHike I have a question though. ive tried this and uploaded my video in youtube but it doesnt says HDR after the 2160p, it supposed to say 2160p HDR. where did i go wrong?
@roundaroundplaces How long ago did you upload? I found that depending on length of the video it can take several days sometimes before the HDR feature becomes available.
Hello, so keeping the 8 bpc if fine for 10 bit color video ?
Hi...I am having Dji Mic connection issue green light blinks but own't turn to blue light for correct proper connection. Tried several times no luck,is there how to reset the dji mic? Thx.
Are you using the DJI Mic 2?
@GreatDayForAHike yes,it came with Dji pocket3 shipment but it will not link keeps blinking w/green light and does not turn to blue to complete setup link for some reason.
@E9ONE1 Okay great, just wanted to confirm which version of the Mic. To pair it you’ll want to power on your Pocket 3 and swipe down to the mic pairing mode. Then power on your Mic 2 and hold down the Bluetooth/link button on the mic until it turns a solid blue. The Mic should then pair.
@GreatDayForAHike I do see only one button on the side one record button what other button is there? This is Dji mic came with my pocket3 order shipment. No matter how long I hold the record button and how many time I tried to pair it No Blue light at all,just green light blinks.
@E9ONE1 Look on the other side. You’ll see a Bluetooth symbol by the button. That is the button you’ll need to hold to get it to pair.
Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Not a great Colorista here but how well would the "Auto" button under Basic Corrections fair grading these kind of files? I use the Auto quite often to just get a slight boost in my Auto color mode footage from Drone and Pocket.
Great question. Auto does do pretty well these days and can be a great starting point if you want to do that first and then add a few finishing touches.
I have recorded hlg content using pocket 3 I am using davinci bcoz i have everything and its faster
But problem is when i added luts dedicated to pocket 3 and then activated hdr my footage became complete pitch black
Can I ask, why ever use D-Log? If HLG is 10bit HDR, can be colour graded, has great range and can also be exported as SDR, what's the purpose of D-Log? I'm definitely I'm confused by this! 😂
I’ve always thought this! It’s really annoying how there’s no answer on the internet haha
D-Log M is easier to work with than HLG footage. HLG’s core benefit is with HDR workflows and most content creators prefer to work with Rec.709 color space simply because HDR is still not that big of a thing. In other words the extra work with HLG to Rec.709 may not be worth it to most when D-Log M can get great results in Rec.709, even if not quite as good as HLG. That is my take on this.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks for the reply! I guess that's what surprises me, that HDR is still not considered a 'standard' enough that more people are working in it. All my devices have HDR, and I assumed it was as ubiquitous as 4K now, but I guess that will still take some time then. :)
@@AminVlogs1 Which profile do you work in more often?
the video tutorial was good, however, you forgot some key points and skipped some tabs that need to be dealt with, like the display format, maybe you're recording in30fps that's why you didn't tackle that one but not all are doing that, some are doing 60fps or 24fps.
I film in 24/30/60/120 on this camera. HLG can be used as a color mode with any of these.