Why & How To Use ND Filters with the DJI Osmo Pocket 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- ND filters are an essential tool for capturing the best-looking, cinematic footage using the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 camera. In this video I explain why and how ND filters should be used with the Pocket 3 and I also outline the key settings that you need to know when using ND filters with this camera.
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Tablet of Contents:
0:00 - Why Use ND filters?
0:50 - The 180 degree shutter angle
2:28 - The ND filters I use
3:45 - Settings to use
5:33 - Attaching an ND filter
5:50 - Fine-tuning the settings
7:38 - How to remove the ND filter
8:06 - PL ND filter difference
8:40 - Stacking filters
9:13 - Long exposure photography
11:25 - Final thoughts
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FINALLY FINALLY!!!….Someone that explains the ND filters and how it works so rookies like me can understand. Wow, you did a great job on this video for the Pocket 3 and ND filters. I actually have the same set of ND filters your showed on order and should be getting it in the next week or two. I have searched over and over for a video like this and you nailed it perfectly. If I can understand it Im sure others will…lol… Thank you so much for this content its exactly what I needed to understand how ND filters and the DJI Pocket 3 works.
That’s great! I love this filter set and especially that these can be stacked too. I’m really happy you found this video helpful. Enjoy this filter set with your Pocket 3. It’s a great combo.
@@GreatDayForAHike Hey, I have a question for you, in this video you show how when you have an ND filter on the Pocket 3 once you turn it off the screen faces forward so you can remove the nd filter while the Pocket 3 is powered off, well mine does not do that, it powers off with the lens still on and powers off like it normally does without a filter. Is there a setting I need to set the change this or is something wrong with mine? I have the latest firmware on it. Also I see when you were showing examples of how you use the ND filters you have your color set to D-Log M, does your examples apply to recording in normal color and D Log M? I figured out recording in D Log M is a better way if you plan to use an editor to edit the colors, I use Wondershare Filmora. I think thats the reason you would record in D-Log M mode. I have to say again, this video helped to make things click for me so thank you again. Now I have to understand how to adjust going higher in filters not only with the lighting but for the blurry affect…I hope you make a video on that because I know you can make me understand…lol…thanks again
This is so well explained. Thank you!
I’m glad you found this helpful and thank you for your feedback!
So glad I came across your channel. Greatly appreciate the very detailed explanation you outlined regarding why & how to use the various filters. THANK YOU! and I just subscribed.
I really appreciate your support. Thanks!
I was taking notes, this was an excellent video and very clearly explained, thank you! Now to put it into practice!!
Thank you so much for this video and for being very detailed about the nd filters!!!
You’re welcome and I really appreciate your feedback!
Excellent. Well thought out. Very helpful.
Thank you and I’m glad you found this helpful.
Great explanations! Thank you very much 👍
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Great video! Thanks for explaining things in an easy to understand way
You’re welcome!
I've been on a Pocket 3 video binge to learn as much about the camera before getting it in, and I gotta say yours was the only one I wrote notes from... so informative and actionable (love the theory explanations and then the exercise of how to find the right ND filter using the EV scale).
A++++ content
I really appreciate your feedback and am glad you found this video helpful! I hope you enjoy owning the Pocket 3. It’s been a great camera to own.
Great video man! I personally liked the photo tip a lot there at the end. Thanks for the information 🤙🏻
Great video explaining how to use the filters. 👍🏾
Thank you, really appreciate it.
Excellent explanations & video! Thank you.
I appreciate your feedback.
Excellent video as always, thanks a lot.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
This was an amazing review thank you
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Awesome tutorial. Thank you. Now a new subscriber.
I appreciate your feedback and support. Thanks!
Great video and probably the most helpful stuff out there for Osmo pocket users
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Excellent video. Just purchased osmo 3 so need all the advice I can get.
Great video, great explanations! Liked and subscribed hoping for more Pocket 3 videos.
Thank you! I appreciate your feedback and support. I’ve got quite a few Pocket 3-related videos out now and more are coming.
Thanks very much for this helpful info!
You bet!
You bet!
Thanks for wonderful video. You explain very well and this is very informative for beginner like me.
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Another amazing video!
Thank you, I appreciate it!
Well explained👍🏻
Thank you
❤ Thank you 🙏🏽 for this video ❤ New to all these video cameras lol Bought the insta 360 1st but was way to confusing to me trying to download & edit. So bought the pocket 3 which I prefer but didn’t know the first thing about filters. This has helped although I will probably have to watch a few times as I’m quite slow at learning 😊 New subscriber 😊🥰💯
Thank you for your feedback and welcome to the channel! I appreciate your support and hope you enjoy your Pocket 3. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Great video. Explaining the exposure values and why you want to keep it within - or + .3 was very useful. I was gonna ask is there value in using iso brackets like 50-400 or are u simply trying to keep the iso as low as possible?
Thank you. Yes, there is value in using the ISO brackets if you’ll be in lighting that is changing and not static for the scene(s) you’re capturing. The range of 50-400 that you mention is a great option as this helps ensure the footage still looks good without digital noise. Using the brackets will result in the lighting of footage potentially changing during a scene, but this change due to ISO adjusting I find to be less jarring or drastic than the shutter speed changing in the middle of a scene.
Another great video on the Pocket 3! I went with the Neewer brand of ND filters; I guess because they have a lower profile, the gimbal head tucks all the way in when powering down. I'm wondering if there is a setting to change that would allow me access to the lens face while powered off? As such, I have no choice but to change filters while the gimbal is powered on and I can feel the gimbal resisting me no matter how gentle I am with it.
Very nice video
Thank you.
Thanks for the very clear explanation. I think I got more from this than others I've seen explain it.
I'm thinking of picking up the Pocket 3. I love the flexibility but that comes with lots of fidgeting with things likes these filters and making changes often. I'd rather avoid having to use ND filters.
You’re welcome!
Hello, thanks for your interesting video and thanks to share it. I need to ask a question please. I only make documentaries in 4K 50p on sunny days. Since it doesn't make much sense to use an ND filter with high framerate and Automatic Exposure, I was thinking to buy a CPL filter and always leave it on, without removing it. I like an image that is a little more contrasted, crispier and with more colour. I use D-Log M, do you think I'll get what I want with CPL filter? Thanks
Thank you for awesome explanation on the ND filters. How close is the LCD screen visually to what is actually captured on video?
The LCD screen is a pretty accurate representation as long as you have the screen brightness set to 100% or no lower than about 95%.
Oo u can stack filters.. i didnt know that 👍👏👏
Yes, I love it that Freewell designed their filters to be stackable. I use a stacking combo often.
Mine will not let me stack them, I have the mega limited edition 14 pack.
Very thorough video, thanks! Quick question though, why do you use ISO to adjust EV, and not the EV compensator setting itself?
Thanks. I like to have the exposure triangle (aperture, shutter speed and ISO) set so that the exposure values are as close to 0.0 without going over as possible after setting the EV comp value to -0.3. I find this works best.
Fair enough! Thanks for the reply! 😁@@GreatDayForAHike
Really good review, thank you! One question. If I film everything in auto mode, will these filters help? I’ve tried to do it and have not seen much of a difference.
Thanks. It depends on what you wish to accomplish. If in full auto mode with an ND filter attached, the camera will slow down the shutter speed to let in more light but how much slower it gets will depend on the strength of the filter you use relative to the lighting of the situation. Your ISO will also boost higher if that is not set to a max threshold. If you use the mist filter or PL filter with auto mode these don’t affect the lighting but do change the appearance of the footage in specific ways. The ND filters are best used when one wants a slower shutter speed for time lapses or when one wants to use the 180 degree shutter angle for video footage with a shutter speed twice the frame rate.
Great video, my partner has ordered the mega pack for Christmas.😁🎄👍🤠
Thank you. A mega pack of ND filters from Freewell is always a great Christmas gift.
Great video! Learned a lot, can the mist filter be placed first then the nd filters?
Thank you! Yes, it can be. This is especially useful when wanting to use one of the PL ND filters as those have to go on last when stacking.
@@GreatDayForAHike That's great, thanks for the info!
@darylbanting6312 You’re welcome!
nice video make more tutorials on the ND filters " setting " plsss, especially on morning, day time, night time 🙏
Did you ever make the video settings for the ND filters for morning, day time, and night time? This video will be very helpful
@tyeshiacarroll574 ND filters are not needed at night time due to the lower lighting. Morning will typically be ND8 or ND16 depending on brightness of the sun. Daytime will need to be ND32 or higher depending on use case. The Osmo Pocket 3 has a nice EV view that helps you ensure you have the correct exposure (ideally around -0.3 to 0).
@@GreatDayForAHike Can you list the settings for morning and day time with the ND filters in the comments?
@tyeshiacarroll574 Yes, you’ll want to keep the ISO as low as possible. ISO 50 is best if possible. You could also set an ISO range like ISO 50-ISO 800 to ensure the ISO adjusts automatically to lighting.
Shutter speed should be set to twice the frame rate for the 180 degree shutter angle. This would not change based on lighting if the goal is the 180 degree shutter angle.
White balance should be 6500K if near sunrise or sunset. During the daytime white balance should be 5000K - 5500K range. I typically use 5000K during the day.
Really the settings aren’t much different based on time of day. The main variance is which ND filter needs to be used. Sunrise or sunset is less bright and requires not as strong of an ND filter. During the day is bright and requires a stronger ND filter to properly expose the image.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you for this breakdown. I am trying to get a better understanding of how to get the best quality video and when to use the nd filters. I vlog in the house all the time also and with your explanation it really helped. I sure didn't know anything about the range setting for the iso 😀.
Nice video missing night shot.
Thank you. If you’d like to see low light/night samples I filmed with the Osmo Pocket 3, check those out here: th-cam.com/video/BNl45z0vjKI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=md_wL1MAXEjhgJfS
Would you go with an ND32 or ND64 for outside in the sun (mixed, not necessarily full on sun).
I would start with ND32 and see if that provides the right exposure balance.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks!
I didn’t find an optimal protection for thé lens that not créâte color artefacts on thé vidéo with nd filter on it. Do you know if one of this protection is compatible with ? Thank’s.
We need to start out with asking how the heck you got that audio so good. Can you give me a quick breakdown of what you did? I've been using the mic 2 and editing on final cut pro.
Absolutely. So I had the Sony a7S III setup recording the video and I had the Mic 2 recording audio to the internal storage on the Mic 2. The Mic 2 has 32-bit float which helps with audio quality.
When editing I synced the video audio from my Sony camera with the Mic 2 audio file and then kept the audio from the Mic 2 and removed the Sony audio.
Finally, I used the sound tool in Adobe Premiere Pro to help balance the audio levels and ensure no audio was clipping.
A bit of a process but I want to deliver the best audio I can when possible.
@@GreatDayForAHike ahh okay got ya! I think I just need to work on fine-tuning the audio in Final Cut Pro then. All I have been doing is adding a little voice enhancement, and then adding a limiter to adjust the levels.
@Matt.Bogosian Yes I think you’re on the right track. I haven’t used Final Cut Pro audio tools much but I know there are some great features in those tools too.
@@GreatDayForAHike yeah I’m gonna do some digging and see what I can find. Great job on the video by the way. I just finished watching it and definitely picked up a couple things I did not know.
@Matt.Bogosian Thank you. I appreciate it.
May I ask if you can only choose one, should you choose the ND filter or ND/PL filter?
When possible I like to use the ND/PL combo unless I have a scene where I do not want the PL effect such as when using the mist filter with ND.
Is it ok to leave the nd filter while traveling and storing it back in the carrier shell?
Technically you can do so, but I don’t recommend it. The lens will face outward instead of tucking inward. This could make it more prone to damage if impacted.
May I ask what lens you are using for the camera in this video?
Yes, the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN Art lens.
Thank you for sharing. I don't have any cameras but I'm looking for one.
Question: One cannot get an image that is not "overexposed" unless one uses those "ND filters"?
That's the impression that I got.
Also, if I buy the DJi Osmo Pocket 3 to use it for indoor talking head videos for TH-cam, do I also need to put an ND filter? Which one?
Excuse the ignorance in these topics. Thank you.
Great questions. ND filters are not needed to get a properly exposed image from this camera. Using auto settings or very carefully selected manual settings will accomplish this too. If one wants to film with the 180 shutter angle for a shutter speed twice the frame rate during the day time outside then an ND filter will almost always be needed. For most indoor shooting the shutter speed can be twice the frame rate without needing an ND filter due to much lower lighting even with studio lighting.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you for your answer. I never understood the explanation of the "180 degree shutter....." I guess I don't know the basics of what is ISO, aperture, and shutter speed....
@MrGheller If you’d like a quick crash course in those basics, this video will help explain them: th-cam.com/video/p-fAt_-vvuM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_f4DKiRerq49Ib0k
The title relates these concepts to photography but these concepts apply to videography as well in similar ways.
@@GreatDayForAHike Thank you for your help and guidance!
Can you take star trails with the pocket 3? My filters have arrived 😁👍
Unfortunately the shutter speed only goes as slow as 1 second on the Pocket 3. Hoping DJI will modify this via firmware to at least 15s or 30s. If they do, this camera could then be used for night lapses. Enjoy the filters! I’ve been loving using mine with the Pocket 3.
@@GreatDayForAHike thanks 👍
The next DJI Pocket will have variable aperture built in.
That would be pretty neat. Let’s see if that actually happens.
Does the filter kit come with a carrying case?
Other than the magnetic case the filters are organized in, this set does not come with a carrying case. I personally like the case they come in as it’s easy to pop into a camera bag and the magnetic lid stays closed.
Thank you. I think thats what I meant. As long as I have something to keep the filters protected.
@christalthegr8 Absolutely. The case the filters come in is great and it’s what I keep them in.
Why can't i add this video to a playlist?
Not sure why. It’s public so it should allow you to.
Very strange, my mist filter will not stack with ND filters and I have the same kit
Try changing the order of how they are stacked. It should work.
I did that, no luck
@@GreatDayForAHike
Makes me wonder if maybe one of the filters didn’t get magnetized or something like that? Not sure what it could be otherwise.
I contacted the company and they were not surprised at all, they sent me another snow mist filter and it works great. It was magnetized but the only way it would stick was vertical, not horizontal.
@@GreatDayForAHike
@visionsbydean I’m glad they were able to send you a replacement filter.
Was this a sponsored video? How do these filters compare with others in regard to price, quality, and value?
I am a long-time user of Freewell filters. I have used Freewell filters for several years now and love them.
I have also bought Polar Pro filters and some other brands over the years but I find the Freewell filters to be the sweet spot for the cost to performance ratio.
I have found the Freewell filters generally cost a bit less than the Polar Pro filters but I do not notice any performance or functionality decrease. Some of the brands that cost less than Freewell I have personally not liked their performance or found them to hold up as well.
Great video
Thank you.
Well done! Although "sunglasses for ypur camera" is a terrible analogy. Sunglasses - cause your pupil to widen, thats the eye's aperture. ND filters simulate an aperture CLOSING to offset shutter speeds. In other words precisely the opposite of what sunglasses do. The eye has an aperture, not a shutter. V
A better explanation would be "ND filters simulate aperture adjustment for cameras with fixed aperture, ability to control light. ND's are technically different in that they reduce light across the entire sensor vs. the pinhole effect of aperture. Probably more deep dive vs. an ND Filter Primer.
These filters aren't available until January 12th 2024. I'll be ordering them.
Oh wow, I see that for the Amazon availability date. This must mean there have been a lot of these filter packs purchased in the past week or so. I recommend checking my link for Freewell’s website as well. Last I checked the price was the same direct from Freewell and included free shipping.
filter out the background music/noise please in your videos. otherwise great.
Thank you for your feedback.
that pack here its 230 bucks plus Tax
Yes, I am referring to USD. I know the price will vary relative to currency.
Please please stop telling people as this is a pro camera and you need nd filters for that. This is a pocket vlog camera. That's it. No zebras.. not even a histogram.. You can't judge the exposure on manual mode with an nd filter on this tiny lcd screen. Freewell is clever enough to send these to almost all youtubers free.. But this is a point and shoot camera.. Nobody really needs motion blur for YT content. And for pro work you should buy a proper camera and then you can think about adding nd filters.. Thıse filters are just an annoying addon to a very good camera.. now you need to carry them.. clean them from your fingerprints.. no.. really nobody needs them for YT work. DOn't do it please..
The Pocket 3 shows the EV level which is really useful for getting the exposure of the frame well balanced. I use these ND filters all the time. I love how they enable me to get the 180 degree shutter angle I want and I also use these with time lapses to get a precise shutter speed to minimize flicker and have smoother frames.
I own nicer cameras likes the Sony a7S III but combine those cameras with a gimbal and it’s a heavy, bulky setup. When I want to bring along a small vlogging camera the Pocket 3 is perfect but I don’t want to have to be stuck with fast shutter speed frames in the daylight, so I appreciate having these ND filters and these come with me everywhere I bring the Pocket 3.
You’re not just seeing me say one time in a video that I use ND filters. I live it with ND filters. I even use ND filters on all of my action cameras, though unfortunately with EIS that isn’t so easy and does require a separate gimbal😂 Love the mechanical stabilization of the Pocket 3.
@@GreatDayForAHike So you say the ev meter is working fine? Sİnce you know the prosumer cameras...how can you be sure that the highlights are not clipping? And as far as i see.. The auto mode.. the computing inside the pocket3 is gaining the dynamic range very well like ipjhone do.. You are actually losing dynamic range when you go after that 180 degree rule which is not really important IMO for vlog purposes
@erkkocak I believe I mention in this video that I usually aim for about -0.3 for the EV value. Right, one may possibly lose some dynamic range with the 180 degree shutter angle but one gains footage with the preferred level of motion blur. So at the end of the day it is all about what primary feature one values in the footage.
@@GreatDayForAHike So here is my conclusion : For vlog purposes, no need for an ND filter since there really won't be any significant motion thus most will not see any difference in motion blur. But if you are using it for b-roll you maybe needing a nd filter for smooth motion blur.. deal now :)
$149 though? lol
Well, the 3-pack from DJI is $59. store.dji.com/product/osmo-pocket-3-magnetic-nd-filters-set?vid=153441
So I’d say the Freewell one is a great price.
Rather, lets start out with the proper name of the brand. It's clearly DJI not DGI. So sick of people that can't say the name of this brand correctly.
We all have our accents. It happens.