Is this finally an app I can use as a Wiki platform? I am still confused. In Teams, you stop supporting the Wiki pages and replace it with OneNote. OneNote is terrible for Wiki. No structure. Ugly. The Wiki pages in SharePoint look antiquated. So the closest thing to a proper (Confluence-like) Wiki would be SharePoint pages, but it is hard to organize/link the content. Or Loop? What are your takes?
I absolutely LOVE IT! I’ve been waiting for this for ages and it payed off. My team and I are already working on loop and it’s really nice! The thing is, if I can suggest something. I love having the ability of sharing and working with other in such a seamlessly way, but I do miss a “notion like” personal workspace so I can use only Loop! Cause now I have to go back and forth on notion and loop and ultimately it’s easier to stay on a platform that have everything. You guys are doing an amazing job. I’ve been using Microsoft apps for a while now - and converting people to it to - and what you’ve been offering these past few months is wild! Congrats!
Man, thank you, Microsoft! Thank you for changing the game, for pushing the other companies to adapt and to reinvent themselves like you guys did! You guys started an AI war and is just amazing to see all these companies pushing harder and harder haha I feel like in the 2010’s with the smartphone war hah that’s awesome !
Components work great. The workspaces are similar to Teams Channels in some respects, which creates some ambiguity as to which one to use for collaboration......
Hi Microsoft, great that we are making progress on this, but just one comment about Loop so far, if we have invested in a Wide screen, we would like to see the content fill that screen width, what is the idea behind this 480p centered with a scroll bar thing? I very much appreciate we could be co-authoring on a mobile (rare, but not impossible) but the vast majority will be on laptop / desktop with an attached screen - can we use the screen real estate we have available, please?
You can try the preview now with availability in the coming months. Loop components can also be used now more broadly in Teams, Word, Outlook, and Whiteboard. Check out enableloop to get everything up and running in your tenant.
Loop looks awesome, is it also possible to collaborate with multiple people with different language backgroups? So i mean they see the content in the native language and me in my native language?
You can install the Loop mobile app now, and the main difference at the moment is that you'll need to sign in with a work or school account (from Azure Active Directory) instead of a personal account like outlook.com. Personal accounts are supported for the web experience now.
Are we ever going to see loop support in Teams channels? Also am I correct to say that you can paste the loop link in a channel post instead of chat and it will work? Great video by the way and the app looks great. Hopefully it gets included as part of the M365 BP license (can charge extra for co-pilot capabilities)
Thanks Michael! The best place to follow Loop component capabilities in Teams is here: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/loop-components-in-teams
I love it! 🥰 Would this be for free for personal use once it is released? Also, if I commit during the public preview and start using this for my day-to-day, is there any chance you pull the plug and I lose all my information?
We're still working through all of the details. This is still in preview, so as with any software in preview, it's always a good idea to maintain some form of backup for anything important.
Yes, but they can be at different zoom levels, so you can create smaller Loop components with tightly scoped content, and pages now in the Loop app can serve as a broader component or collection of smaller Loop components.
I was pretty lost trying to understand all of this until I remembered trying to understand Adobe Flash MX (long ago), with libraries of objects that could be contained within other objects (like a Russian doll). Changes to the core object would change all the other instances of it.
Is it possible to make pages work with each other? Something like, I have a group of tasks as a project in one page where I can create several projects. Then, on another page have the projects listed as cards in a board (Trello style) and move them according to their progress.
What you're describing sounds like Planner, it has cards and boards that can be moved around to manage projects and corresponding deliverables. support.microsoft.com/en-us/planner
@@MSFTMechanics I think Trello is a whole lot better then Planner. But I like Planner better then Teams. And what the OP is describing can also be created in Notion, and I don't see anything close to the functionality and usefulness that Notion has in Loop.
is this like using Miro in conjuction with a breakout room created within Microsoft teams and/or whatever that other microsoft app is used for organising all your bits and pieces in which I don't really like using eg screenshots, notes, photos in - One note? Some note whatever
Seems to be something very basic missing. I Created a meeting agenda and minutes from the template. Now all I want to do is copy that page to use as a template for this week's meeting. Appears to be no way to copy and paste a loop page? Also, the tables suck. The headers in tables in the pages do not have wrapping so long headers get truncated. And if you try to widen them out the table gets super long if you have more than say 9 columns. These things are very basic in Confluence.
The is huge for document reviews for companies looking to collaborate. I've requested my i.t. department enable the beta since you have to have enterprise but most companies have it disabled by default. Hoping to try it soon. Does anyone know a place to demo it ?
@@williambell4591 I just tried again from a personal account and get "We couldn't find a work or school account with that email address." I'm interested in how you got a personal account to work since they stayed there only taking corporate 365 customers. Were you able to find a beta somewhere that allowed you to sign up with a personal email?
@@BryanEnsign Hey Bryan - I might be because I also use my Yahoo email for my company's Visual Studio subscription? It would be a shame if MS is only allowing subscribers to their wares a chance to play w/the preview?? I also have my XBox using my email account as well. The FIRST disappointment for me is there isn't ANY database / table functionality similar to Coda and Notion. Just simple table cells functionality. While okay for simple collaboration, you won't be creating nicely powerful web applications with the current state Loop is in. However, I still applaud MS for entering the arena of these "Productivity" apps - their main advantage so far, is their Component functionality, and embedding Loop into Emails and Teams!
The Work or School account limitation should only be on mobile currently. The web experience works with personal Microsoft accounts as well as Work and School accounts.
@@MSFTMechanics looks like my company has it blocked or not enabled. When attempting to log in via the web SSO or entering my credentials it says that I don't have an account. Co workers can not either. I have made a help ticket with our i.t. department to clarify.
Once again, I need to set up another testing tenant to try it out as it's disabled by our IT :( Maybe I missed it, but does creating the loop elements work in Word, Teams or Outlook as well? Or is the Loop application always required to create the loop elements?
You can create the Loop components from within those apps, Word, Outlook, Teams and Whiteboard without using the Loop app. The Loop app does make it easier to find your existing Loop components though, as we demonstrated in the video.
While we are waiting for the android app to allow personal accounts can we not use the web version. In the browser it keeps trying to take me to the app. :(
@@MSFTMechanics I would like to but there is no such Loop app for Android (I understood there is one). I guess it's only for Windows. Will try it later as you said it also works for private persons. Doesn't it?
I am so stunningly disappointed that while I can use loop with a personal msa account, everything goes missing. no way to add a loop component from word, outlook, whiteboard, etc. and the only way to invite someone is to create a link to paste into an email. there is no invite member.
Copilot is how we refer to generative AI experiences across Microsoft 365, Power Platform, and more. Many of the experiences are leveraging the newest OpenAI GPT models, and some, like Azure Open AI Service use GPT 3.5 Turbo currently.
Love this. The coauthoring experience is crazy fast. Can't wait to try Copilot.
Is this finally an app I can use as a Wiki platform? I am still confused. In Teams, you stop supporting the Wiki pages and replace it with OneNote. OneNote is terrible for Wiki. No structure. Ugly. The Wiki pages in SharePoint look antiquated. So the closest thing to a proper (Confluence-like) Wiki would be SharePoint pages, but it is hard to organize/link the content. Or Loop? What are your takes?
I absolutely LOVE IT! I’ve been waiting for this for ages and it payed off. My team and I are already working on loop and it’s really nice!
The thing is, if I can suggest something. I love having the ability of sharing and working with other in such a seamlessly way, but I do miss a “notion like” personal workspace so I can use only Loop! Cause now I have to go back and forth on notion and loop and ultimately it’s easier to stay on a platform that have everything.
You guys are doing an amazing job. I’ve been using Microsoft apps for a while now - and converting people to it to - and what you’ve been offering these past few months is wild! Congrats!
You can use ideas like that
@@MSFTMechanics yup, the ending of this presentation is the answer is his question!
How exciting, I've been waiting for this for ages! 🥳
It's here! Let us know what you think, there's even more to come.
Man, thank you, Microsoft! Thank you for changing the game, for pushing the other companies to adapt and to reinvent themselves like you guys did! You guys started an AI war and is just amazing to see all these companies pushing harder and harder haha I feel like in the 2010’s with the smartphone war hah that’s awesome !
Glad you like the direction.
This is very handy for students. Great software Microsoft
Thanks for taking the time to comment and glad you like it!
Components work great. The workspaces are similar to Teams Channels in some respects, which creates some ambiguity as to which one to use for collaboration......
Hi Microsoft, great that we are making progress on this, but just one comment about Loop so far, if we have invested in a Wide screen, we would like to see the content fill that screen width, what is the idea behind this 480p centered with a scroll bar thing? I very much appreciate we could be co-authoring on a mobile (rare, but not impossible) but the vast majority will be on laptop / desktop with an attached screen - can we use the screen real estate we have available, please?
Cool - but when is Loop available in Ms Teams CHANNELS?
CoPilot is not available yet in loop :( how many months?
Not yet, it will be rolling out in the coming months.
so when will loop be available for everyone?
cant wait to try and work with my teams on this
You can try the preview now with availability in the coming months. Loop components can also be used now more broadly in Teams, Word, Outlook, and Whiteboard. Check out enableloop to get everything up and running in your tenant.
Loop looks awesome, is it also possible to collaborate with multiple people with different language backgroups? So i mean they see the content in the native language and me in my native language?
Excellent video, could you please make a quick video on how to enable it on our personal devices pls?
You can install the Loop mobile app now, and the main difference at the moment is that you'll need to sign in with a work or school account (from Azure Active Directory) instead of a personal account like outlook.com. Personal accounts are supported for the web experience now.
sounds great (: now i just need to get access to "full loop" with documents and the copilot, but seems very promising
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Copilot is going to be a game changer.
Are we ever going to see loop support in Teams channels? Also am I correct to say that you can paste the loop link in a channel post instead of chat and it will work? Great video by the way and the app looks great. Hopefully it gets included as part of the M365 BP license (can charge extra for co-pilot capabilities)
Thanks Michael! The best place to follow Loop component capabilities in Teams is here: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/loop-components-in-teams
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Wow this is an amazing application! I am so excited to use it :)
Hope you enjoy it!
Great. Let’s try it
Thanks for stopping by and let us know what you think with the preview.
I love it! 🥰 Would this be for free for personal use once it is released? Also, if I commit during the public preview and start using this for my day-to-day, is there any chance you pull the plug and I lose all my information?
We're still working through all of the details. This is still in preview, so as with any software in preview, it's always a good idea to maintain some form of backup for anything important.
Ok this is a GAME CHANGER
Looks really great.
Loop appears to be a virtual container encapsulating logical components of typical work. Am I correct in my assumption?
Yes, but they can be at different zoom levels, so you can create smaller Loop components with tightly scoped content, and pages now in the Loop app can serve as a broader component or collection of smaller Loop components.
I was pretty lost trying to understand all of this until I remembered trying to understand Adobe Flash MX (long ago), with libraries of objects that could be contained within other objects (like a Russian doll). Changes to the core object would change all the other instances of it.
That is so great. But its license is including in M365 license ?
Is it possible to make pages work with each other? Something like, I have a group of tasks as a project in one page where I can create several projects. Then, on another page have the projects listed as cards in a board (Trello style) and move them according to their progress.
What you're describing sounds like Planner, it has cards and boards that can be moved around to manage projects and corresponding deliverables. support.microsoft.com/en-us/planner
@@MSFTMechanics I think Trello is a whole lot better then Planner. But I like Planner better then Teams. And what the OP is describing can also be created in Notion, and I don't see anything close to the functionality and usefulness that Notion has in Loop.
copilot will be available this year?
Oh this is notion for windows?
Do you know much about Teams Notes using Loop when Copilot is enabled? Will it be a similar function as Intelligent Meeting Recap in Teams Premium?
so a Microsoft version of Notion
is this like using Miro in conjuction with a breakout room created within Microsoft teams and/or whatever that other microsoft app is used for organising all your bits and pieces in which I don't really like using eg screenshots, notes, photos in - One note? Some note whatever
You really should say something about pricing/licensing - in what subscription is it included or how long will it be free and what aspect is metered?
Hey, is it true that loop items are not possible in channels? Why not? Would be so helpful for project and team-meeting channel...
Seems to be something very basic missing. I Created a meeting agenda and minutes from the template. Now all I want to do is copy that page to use as a template for this week's meeting. Appears to be no way to copy and paste a loop page? Also, the tables suck. The headers in tables in the pages do not have wrapping so long headers get truncated. And if you try to widen them out the table gets super long if you have more than say 9 columns. These things are very basic in Confluence.
For me, it's missing the Copilot features
Those will be there in the coming months.
Loop changes the game..I have a question, will databases be possible in Loop? thanks you
Can't find - what about creating database tables + views ?
Are there any plans to include microsoft project as a component?
Looks great.
Glad you like it. Try it out and let us know what you think.
This is amazing! :)
Thank you! It's a great tool for real-time collaboration. Try out the preview and let us know what you think. More to come.
Does Project Management related apps (Planner, Project & Project Operations) included in LOOP?
Amazing, keep it going!
Thank you. Glad you like it!
Can't enable it for my tenant
There is an article for enabling Loop at aka.ms/enableloop
The is huge for document reviews for companies looking to collaborate. I've requested my i.t. department enable the beta since you have to have enterprise but most companies have it disabled by default. Hoping to try it soon. Does anyone know a place to demo it ?
I signed in with my personal Microsoft email account - got right in.
@@williambell4591 I just tried again from a personal account and get "We couldn't find a work or school account with that email address." I'm interested in how you got a personal account to work since they stayed there only taking corporate 365 customers. Were you able to find a beta somewhere that allowed you to sign up with a personal email?
@@BryanEnsign Hey Bryan - I might be because I also use my Yahoo email for my company's Visual Studio subscription?
It would be a shame if MS is only allowing subscribers to their wares a chance to play w/the preview??
I also have my XBox using my email account as well.
The FIRST disappointment for me is there isn't ANY database / table functionality similar to Coda and Notion.
Just simple table cells functionality.
While okay for simple collaboration, you won't be creating nicely powerful web applications with the current state Loop is in.
However, I still applaud MS for entering the arena of these "Productivity" apps - their main advantage so far, is their Component functionality, and embedding Loop into Emails and Teams!
The Work or School account limitation should only be on mobile currently. The web experience works with personal Microsoft accounts as well as Work and School accounts.
@@MSFTMechanics looks like my company has it blocked or not enabled. When attempting to log in via the web SSO or entering my credentials it says that I don't have an account. Co workers can not either. I have made a help ticket with our i.t. department to clarify.
Once again, I need to set up another testing tenant to try it out as it's disabled by our IT :(
Maybe I missed it, but does creating the loop elements work in Word, Teams or Outlook as well? Or is the Loop application always required to create the loop elements?
You can create the Loop components from within those apps, Word, Outlook, Teams and Whiteboard without using the Loop app. The Loop app does make it easier to find your existing Loop components though, as we demonstrated in the video.
Nice
Glad you like it! Let us know what you think with the preview. loop.microsoft.com
While we are waiting for the android app to allow personal accounts can we not use the web version. In the browser it keeps trying to take me to the app. :(
i can't find copilot
yap, I can't see it, either.
is it something already available to use or just a concept for now? how about the copilot?
This is available in preview now. Copilot features will be available in the coming months.
Thank you!
Isn’t it same as confluence?
Looks like a great app but too complicated to turn on in Teams.
So this must be replacing Sharepoint.
QRCode brings you to a page with ads and no link: filled up…
like it but very lack of comfort still. I want functio to scrap web pages easily to loop
What about the licensing.
We're working through those details now prior to general availability and encourage you to try out the preview.
@@MSFTMechanics I would like to but there is no such Loop app for Android (I understood there is one). I guess it's only for Windows. Will try it later as you said it also works for private persons. Doesn't it?
There is an app for Android here, aka.ms/GetLoopAndroid. The web experience works currently with personal accounts like outlook.com.
I am so stunningly disappointed that while I can use loop with a personal msa account, everything goes missing. no way to add a loop component from word, outlook, whiteboard, etc. and the only way to invite someone is to create a link to paste into an email. there is no invite member.
It’s look and feel same as notion but with some new features
I have a paid Microsoft account, however, I cannot sign in to the application. I hope one day I can use it. Until then, I stick with Notion
where DATABASE KANBAN VIEW ,NOT WORK FLOW
there no copilot !!! icon when i test loop with /
The Copilot capabilities will be rolling out in the coming months.
This kinda feels like Notion
I get an error message on the android app loging in with my personal ms account. It says no business or school or univeristy accout found.
I got the same message trying to access with my personal account
The Loop mobile app currently works with a work or school account, until then you can use Loop in the browser at loop.microsoft.com
@@MSFTMechanics thanks!
Will it works with personal account in the future?
Now, put that in VR and AR please.
Keep me in the “loop” 😉
Will do
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Glad you like it - thanks for watching and commenting!
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Looks like notion
Is Copilot an other name for gpt-4?
Copilot is how we refer to generative AI experiences across Microsoft 365, Power Platform, and more. Many of the experiences are leveraging the newest OpenAI GPT models, and some, like Azure Open AI Service use GPT 3.5 Turbo currently.
Copilot is a custom version of GPT-x for a MS application.
Microsoft have some Notions
Notion lite 😅
This looks like notion...
haha
Just because you can, does it mean you should? Too much sharing is not good. JustSaying.
A "Note" clone?
Notion was a Google Pages clone, Loop is a Notion clone, where is the creativity?