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  • @DaveKeller-t5k
    @DaveKeller-t5k ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos have helped me improve my mowing, ground pressure and advancing my cut with my steps only and useing my core thanks. Dave

  • @naturvarden
    @naturvarden ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome Janne, my friend and fellow developing companion - As an scythe instructor myself, and writing about these matters I here will give my thoughts upon this:
    First of: I use a very similar way of teaching this and it is only minor (but important) details I have in mind when seeing this.
    I took notes cronologically:
    1. Best to start by introducing that there be different styles, different snaths, different bodies och different goals... and maybe something more, and this will affect how you want to mow
    Further intro also this is for plain terrain - (mak a seperat "hackslåtter"-movie?) and finally show a nice example of how it should look so the viewer directly will know what the goal is.
    2. lower back in/out...this is something I would secure to talk through with a good chiropractor or likewise - as I learned it from my chiropractor it is actually the opposite: straighten out the lower back to get a good connection (which also is the common way in martial arts) - what is important though is to put the butt out (but with a straight back ( both lower and upper back) ) - in my teachin i use the monkey as a example: bend knees, butt out, straight back that leans slightly forward, arms hanging so hands on front of thighs.
    + here comes a addition: the tilt of the head is important. the back should not be 100% vertical, because then you will not be able to see down without hurting the neck - when the back is sligthly tilted forward you can easily watch down on the blade.
    3. Karate...bam... fun but confusing for beginners where I see a big problem with beginners who want to make impact instead of moving smooth. hard impacts destroy the rythm and you lose energy. best to avoid - because beginners have too much to think of at the same time.
    4. About turning torso...this is also a beginner thing. it is an easy way for the beginner to get the right circle movement on the ground with the blade. Later on you can take away some of the turning torso. You need to be able to control your arms better before thats a good idea. Better to exagerate in the start - then take som off. Janne, you say that you dont turn so much, but I think you actually turn more when you do the real mowing. Watch yourself in the last part of the movie ;)
    + I make som pauses where I make the beginners practice before putting on the next step - getting the groundmovement (motor) in place first, then when thats rolling good its time for fine motorics. which gets individual quite fast.
    5. I really see a very important step in making beginners lock the shoulder joints, so the energy can go from torso to arms ( and then to snath). MANY beginners use their arms too much. I use the idea of playing robot for a time. Stiff arms so they have to turn the upper torso. This is crucial. Afterwards we need to do the same with bended albows and then with loose hand joints - still with stiff joints in the shoulder.
    A lot of these things is good to show from the side btw
    6. Addition - how to get the tip of the blade down to the ground in the end of a swing. In this video you go a little too fast over this moment. It is the last step i put on in my teaching and it is difficult for many - you first need to get everything else going.
    To succed you must twist the snath and also lower the left hand while ending the swing. The left hand should totally stretched out far behind you (austrian snath) and also lowered vertically. The right hands thumb should twist the snatch in a direction that means that the thumb goes forward pointing away from you - or gradually pointing towards the ground. I let beginners exagerate the movement in this way:
    first mark by clearly stamp the base part of the blad (the inner 1/3 part closest to the snath) in the ground at the spot of the beginning of the half circle. In the mowing swing you gradually do the things above. At the way back you hold it that way to keep the tip/front of the blade on the ground - avoiding the blade to grab hold of grass. When commin back to the start you mark by flipping back the thumb and thereby the blade.
    7. Bendinig knee and twisting it - is the most heavy work in mowing - may demand practice. Here is a important chapter about keeping balance. Bend knee improves keeping balance.
    + addition: MANY beginners wont even LISTEN to the command ”set you feet far apart” - this is also a balance improver. Often we have to say ”you can put your feet more apart”.
    Last: It would be nice to see a group of beginners with different problems doing the same exercises - and you go in and pinpoint directions. In that way a good troubleshooting will be present.
    Thanks for all the effort you lay in this - Love it. Yours, Rune
    I also see the need of deeper stuff with breathing, trimming balance/energy and a talk about do you want to deliver a work or do you seek calm - something with mindsets

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Rune! I think I run through this in the coming videos where we split up this long one and do it a little more professionally!

  • @krisdv4077
    @krisdv4077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Janne for another great instruction video. It has helped me find a flaw in my technique. I always had this litlle tuff of grass ( located in direcction of 10 o clock). Pulling back my left arm while keeping it closer to my body seems to fix this. Thank you again for reviving the interest in this great old tool. I have also noted an advantage of the scythe compared to a lawn mower nobody talks about. If you leave the grass clippings of a lawn mower on a heap for even only an hour or 8, they become a hot stinking sticky heap you can no longer start composting. The scythe cuts the grass with only 1 cut (where the machine. Uts the grass leave in many short pieces), resulting in clippings which do not start brooding as quickly. You can take your time in putting them on the compost heap and mixing with woody fraction

  • @kogarten
    @kogarten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you very much for this great video. For the time you invested in summarizing everything again and especially thank you for always including the European snap. That helps us a lot. Wonderful!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad I can help! All for scything!

  • @timothyhume3741
    @timothyhume3741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just wanted to say that you have done well and you analyzed how the motion works. I am 77 and have been mowing in Canada for pretty much my whole life. I certainly would love to try your Nordic snath. Cheers and blessings

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot! Please have a look on www.slattergubben.se

  • @mitopy
    @mitopy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic job you have done with your videos. I am happy that I found your courses here and I believe to improve my techniques of mowing. Many many thanks and greetings from Slovakia 👍

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Wish you many nice hours of mowing!

  • @johnnybhoy4278
    @johnnybhoy4278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another excellent video. Very informative. I've been scything for 3 yrs or more and I'm still learning.

  • @thedeergarden3964
    @thedeergarden3964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Janne, I’ve been inspired by your videos to pull out the scythe I’ve had for about 10 years but quit using because my shoulders we’re getting torn up as I didn’t have the proper technique. Also I wish my snath was more like yours because mine has the right angle handles and honestly I think the ergonomics are more challenging than the curvy one. I may try to carve my own but I’m going to try the movements you suggested before I give up. I’ve been practicing on a small hay field and its a difficult one with tall grass, downhill and lots of laid down grass, trees, fences, and plenty of mole hills. I think if I can cut this field I might be able too cut any field. But I’ll keep practicing until I get the hang of this. Thanks so much for these videos. I’m really so happy to know so many people are rediscovering this amazing tool and that there are experts like you who can guide us.

  • @kogarten
    @kogarten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    highly love the art of mowing with the scythe❤

  • @jonthomas5859
    @jonthomas5859 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are a fantastic teacher! Thank you for all of your videos. I ordered your Nordic Snath a couple days ago and can’t wait until it comes in. I’ve been using an Austrian style snath for the past year but ready to upgrade.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great to hear! Remember just to grind down the knob on your blade so it fits the smaller holes in our Nordic snath! Please tell me how it feels after a while!

  • @KevinJorgensen
    @KevinJorgensen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your videos have been insightful and have helped me find a love for the art of scything. I have started recording myself scything to review my form and used your teachings as a guide.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear! Please give advice if there is something else you want to learn. I also search for videos that I can make comments on the technique! For publishing on TH-cam, so if you want...... Info@slattergubben.se

  • @JonasJonas-j3v
    @JonasJonas-j3v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello ! Infinite thanks ! I am a professional gardener in Rome and nobody trust me that it's possibile to mown with scythe. I follow your teaching and I did it! Of couse I didn't reach your level but I already proof them the power of the scythe! Thanks to you!
    Question: would you like to share how you build your incredible snatch or is it a secret?
    Anyway I wish you a lot of happy scyting!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JonasJonas-j3v great to hear! The world needs a huge amount of professional gardeners who has the scythe as one of their tools. Keep watching more of my videos and practice. Hone and peen too often and learn when you have peened too thin.

  • @beni445
    @beni445 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your effort to create more scythe conent, there is definitely a void to be filled! I like your tutorial and the way you explain the different aspects of a good technique.
    For me personally, I think the most important thing to improve ones technique is to keep the basics like the mowing circle and ground pressure in the back of your head and just go ahead and try to find your rythm. The goal is to get a good cut with little effort, and for me it worked quite well to just trial and error my way to a technique that works for me. I arrived at mostly the same details and movements you display here. :)
    I would also love to see more contet documenting the scythe work you do, like the one about scythe mowing at the swedish airport!
    Love what you do, you are really inspiring, keep it up! Looking forward to seeing more from you!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! Yes, sure that should also be addressed in one or another tutorial. The importance of just playing around! Especially when mowing in technical areas , uneven with a lot of stones, bushes and trees. There are so many solutions there! It's really fun and you need to think and plan in many more layers. Playing around is how how I achieved most of my skills as well. But the confidence of people's trial and error way of learning differ a lot, also the dedication. And I can really see now that many employees that is new for the year soon mowes with the same skill I reached in maybe 6 or 7 years. And that's only due to my own higher skills and built up tips and tricks for teaching.

    • @KevinLambeets
      @KevinLambeets ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slattergubben6702 couldn't agree more on that one. After eleven years now of mowing and five years of teaching scythe courses and mowing professionally myself, novices joining courses, foten without any knowledge about hand tools in general or mowing experience at all, are mowing (basic technique) even before noon. It mostly takes me two consecutive personal coaching moments after a short demo before they start out themselve and having them evaluatue MY movements.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KevinLambeets Thanks, ok, interesting. You let them set words in your style!

  • @lokemani
    @lokemani ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this! It helped me understand a couple of mistakes I make. Now I know what to look for and practice!

  • @TomChaplin-o9d
    @TomChaplin-o9d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Janne, i am new to scything and have the use of a new Austrian scythe which i'm setting up for a friend. I have decades of experience cutting grass with a brushcutter with a strimmer head holding on a blade to help with the weight forward and reduction of entanglement around the head. Your videos are better than first class and I've struggled to find suggestions to help you. I find your English explanations BETTER than any English as a first language speaker could hope to explain - something to do with your being a linguist! I would find it helpful if the subtitles appear in the sky so that i can see the grass that your cutting - but that may be more to do with Google than your video. The temperature here is beginning to get into double figures at night and so the grass is beginning to grow like crazy so I'm only inside watching TH-cam and writing because I'm weary. But I'm SO excited to have ordered my peening jig today and to think that i might one daybe able to dispense with powertools ALTOGETHER. So much to say but of making many books there is no end! Id better stop here for now. HUGE thankyou for your most inspiring enthusiasm and kindness in sharing your extraordinary skill and experience. Every blessing!

    • @TomChaplin-o9d
      @TomChaplin-o9d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm amused to realise that my suggestion would mean that your subtitles would then be 'super'titles! The sky'scapes' in your videos are wonderful so it's a pity to cover them up with writing - but at the moment I can't see your scythe blade and the grass that you're cutting.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot! Yes scything is the shit! I hope subtitles are not disturbing as much in the more professional videos we did out of this one.

  • @OwtInYorkshire
    @OwtInYorkshire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very clear and informative video I thought. I'm certainly not the best with a scythe, but from my experience I'd say it's all sound advice.
    Something you mentioned around 16:10 about the Nordic style being more relaxing for the wrists: I agree completely. I know lots of people get on fine with the Austrian style but for some reason I always found it agony for my wrists. I've never heard anyone else comment on it before though. I recently switched to something more like a Nordic and I haven't had any pain since. Maybe I just have weak wrists or something, but hopefully this might help if anyone else has the same problem.
    Thanks!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it is tougher for the wrists. But of course there is also a matter of "getting used to" or sometimes even grown up with. The longer you have used a tool the stronger and more used your body is to it.

  • @jma80804
    @jma80804 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent instruction! Thank you from Monterey California.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! You have time to give input as we are filming the coming videos right now!

  • @Andeboy
    @Andeboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Väldigt fin himmel denna soliga och blåsiga dag på schlätta men jag skulle gärna se mer av fötter och liebladet de första 11 minuterna. :D
    I övrigt tycker jag du är supertydlig i dina beskrivningar och upprepar saker under tiden så att man kommer ihåg att tänka på dem och inte glömmer bort dem när något läggs till.
    Stort tack för denna video, en riktig tillgång! :D

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tack! Ja, i de riktiga filmerna som är på gång som ska ersätta denna så filmar vi naturligtvis detaljer! Kul att du gillar den!

  • @barnabyvonrudal1
    @barnabyvonrudal1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your tips are very useful, as a beginner and as a result I feel I'm progressing nicely! Nothing major but a few of the terms you use sound strange to anglosaxons, like "movie" instead of "video" . A few things I'd be interested in seeing in videos - teams of scythers, drone shots, a good scyther scything for a few minutes (like a chill scything video - it's very relaxing to watch 😊)

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! We will for sure produce during the summer! Thanks. I do have some help with the English in the more serious videos, I have easy to use the word film as well !

    • @KevinLambeets
      @KevinLambeets ปีที่แล้ว

      ..even better: th-cam.com/video/AZYu-lY4Sh8/w-d-xo.html

  • @stefanof8831
    @stefanof8831 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great great video Jan thanks. I like your mowing movement. So elegant, natural but at the same time so powerfull. Sometime i'm using a bush blade vhith huge beard and i feel the movemen should be a little more different.

  • @dheerajchidambaranathan
    @dheerajchidambaranathan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Janne,
    I think what would be an added advantage to the already amazing videos you put out is to add details on how the movement may/may not differ for different scythe blades. For example, using a grass blade with only grass v/s a brush or ditch blade for thick weeds and brush - what amount of pressure you should apply and how much swinging force to apply and at what position of the swing, etc... Also what would be good is if you already have piled up cut brush on the left side and you're going to mow the next section, how much space should you leave before starting on the new section. Do you also move the cut grass immediately before moving to the next section or do you continue with the new section and then finally move them all together?
    p.s.: Today was the first time I was able to get clean cuts in a single line with a brush blade (almost a semicircle but lacking momentum on the left side). Thank you once again for all your videos and insight! Lots of support from San Diego, California! :)

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Video about different blades is in the pipeline. But that is separated.
      The row will naturally be on your left. We always cut a whole area , let the grass dry and then rake. If you by some reason want green grass it's better to rake soon of course. To use for coverage in your garden for example!

  • @gauthierostervall4849
    @gauthierostervall4849 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! Since you're asking for feedback: make sure you always have the interesting bit in the shot. There were spots in the beginning of the video where it would have been nice to see your feet, but they were out of frame. Same when you talk about "slopes", the video is too zoomed out to see what you point at.
    Also easy to miss: where are the close captions going to be? Don't point at an important thing behind that.
    I'm starting to feel more confident mowing, although still a lot of "quarter of a circle" thing, so I'll think about the karate thing. What's helping me is to imagine "shaving" rather than "cutting". The Swedish word "slå" (hit) really is a misnomer, right? "Shaving" feels right, doesn't it?

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! As this is just an intermediate video and not professionally att all shoots of my feet and other details will of course appear in the coming videos! Yes "slå" is not a great word, but it is so established in Swedish so I think it just needs to be so. If any other word used " skära" (cut/slice) is better and used by some people.

  • @vb4567
    @vb4567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a different technique or style for using a bush blade (about 40cm) to reclaim areas with small willows and overgrowth of hard stem plants?

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must use a blade hoe or ax to get that up with the roots! Else scything is impossible. You could might do it one year but then you just enlarge the problems and create more tough job for you following years. Look at the video about where we do this on a local marsh in an airport.

  • @rolandsharp
    @rolandsharp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for sharing. Do you find any physical imbalances built up form years of scything? do you ever mow left handed to create balance in the body? cheers

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! No I do not regularly mow with lefthanded. But it's fun and a good experience to test once in a while. At the end of the season I can clearly see my right lats and breast muscle grown larger. But my physiotherapist does not find any general imbalances nor anything that could be a possible source to any problems.

  • @AlexPlanetEarth
    @AlexPlanetEarth 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you, is it a your cat that was behind you at 20:00 ?

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AlexPlanetEarth must have been my neighbours

  • @chrisking6543
    @chrisking6543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wondering if you can ship to the US interested in one of you snathes.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed we can! Freightcost is though pretty hard in those long boxes. Please contact us on www.slattergubben.se , tell your length and we give you a price offer. Freight cost is the same even if you want to add honingstones, blade, our special sharpened peeningjigg and so.

  • @goatfarmmb
    @goatfarmmb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we Swiss have 25 different styles of Snaths ;) cool video by the way

  • @CarolineVigneron71
    @CarolineVigneron71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, someday I'd like to see someone cut some "really" tall grass! Some of the grass I have around my house is almost up my chin (I'm 1,67m), so that would be up your chest I guess? And some of it is hogweed and dock, which stems grow real hard as they ripe (especially dock).
    Would a woman much less fit than you still say that she barely applies any force to cut such tall hard grass? I sometimes feel like hitting such grass is a bit like hitting a wall, so I have to apply some serious force in the arms and core, just so that the scythe won't fall of my hands!
    And now, put this kind of grass on a very bumpy ground... In your reply to my question about bumpy grounds, you write that to you find such grounds are much fun to scythe, so I figure, since your chanel is much about showing how much fun scything can be, you shall have plenty of videos about scything such "fun" grounds! ;-)
    Take care!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok, that does not sound too fun! The toughest I mow is reeds and that can be really hard. Narrow strokes, keep sharpness and as you say - use the body. There is no shortcut here, it's heavy. But reeds is always on pretty even ground.

  • @alliboogaloo
    @alliboogaloo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there such a thing as a left hand scythe? As with a baseball/cricket bat, the right hand being ahead of the left feels very unnatural and awkward.

  • @mapostman
    @mapostman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to have your own designed snatch but I’ve tried to contact you three times and get no response back!

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm.. i know there is some unread mails but three times ? I would love to sell one to you! Info@slattergubben.se

  • @barbaracarlson254
    @barbaracarlson254 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The camera is not showing your feet and it needs to be lowered just a bit to include your feet -- and instructions about the feet.

    • @slattergubben6702
      @slattergubben6702  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know, this video should might be deleted. Please se my other institution videos on my channel that are much better

    • @АлексейБашкирцев
      @АлексейБашкирцев 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slattergubben6702 не надо удалять это видео. Мелкие недочеты есть всегда в любом деле, но из-за них нельзя отвлекаться от главной цели. Этот ролик - прекрасное учебное пособие. Оставь его