Update: Since this video, I've figured that running full Opal instead of Onyx in this expedition makes more sense due to the mages and other magical dmg sources (ice, lightning, fire + void (slicer) and nature from mutation) from regular mobs and bosses having very few physical mechanics. That means if you can afford upgrading 2 sets, having a full ruby set for bosses is actually worth it, too! PATREON: www.patreon.com/DukeSloth Timestamps: 00:00 - What's in this guide? 00:27 - Start of the run 01:26 - Gatherable 1 01:47 - Executioner Freyr (Forge Gate) 02:26 - Puzzle Lock 1 03:44 - Ser Eld (Hidden Chamber) 05:20 - Puzzle Lock 2 05:40 - Gatherable 2 05:50 - Puzzle 06:11 - The Heel Room 1 06:25 - Gatherable 3 07:03 - The Heel Room 2: Foundry 07:32 - Gatherable 4 07:56 - The Heel Final Fight 08:30 - Gatherable 5 08:45 - Gatherable 6 08:56 - Ifrit Boss Fight 12:22 - Reliquary (remember gear swapping) 12:52 - Ser Bishop 13:14 - Gatherable 7 13:46 - Lady Bridget & Ser Newlon 14:10 - Gatherable 8 14:26 - Ser Skarin 15:38 - Ser Ducas 17:23 - Gatherable 9 & 10 17:40 - FINAL BOSS: Commander Marius (Swap gear!) 18:13 - Attack 1: Whirlwind 18:55 - Attack 2: Execute 19:18 - Attack 3: Volcanoes 20:01 - Attack 4: The Floor Is Lava 20:40 - Attack 5: Overhead Swing (Backswing, rare) 21:10 - Attack 6: Stacking Debuff & Explosion 21:53 - 7. Phase 2: Fireballs 24:32 - 8. Phase 3: Double Fireballs! 25:03 - Gearing: Gems & Amulets 26:00 - Gearing: Human Ward & Flame Conditioning 26:46 - Gearing: Human Ward Drops vs Crafting
So a few things regarding Marius: 1- When he summons volcanos he slams his axe on the ground, these slams do damage from his front, they can also bug out and hit people behind but it doesn't seem intended. 2- EVERYTHING gets interrupted once you do 2 bars of damage, he's like f this im summoning lava. 3- As a melee dps I've had very bad experiences holding block that could much more easily be avoided by dodging. For example stuck in a corner as he spins towards me, breaks my block and im stunned, volcanos have spawned but lucky me I'm not stunned in one however a ball lands next to me and staggers me in to a volcano removing my remaining health. Rolling in to his spin if all other options aren't better is 100% better than blocking in light gear at least.
I give this Dungeon a 9.5/10. Very well thought out dungeon. The last boss is a whole new meaning of cracked. Very fun but isnt dragged out so you can run multiple times in an hour which is nice.
One thing you didn't note is that the fireballs both single and double rotate anti clockwise so can be predictable. Also the double balls fall in order making it possible to stand in the path of the last ball to fall while the first comes down.
The Fireballs drop in a clockwise rotation. Then when two drop, they still follow the same pattern. So two platforms will have a boulder, and one platform will be "safe". The whole thing will then rotate clockwise for the next drop. This is good to know so you can keep up with where the boulders will be rolling to.
What has worked great for me is the Platform he is standing on in the beginning its much much wider than the other 2 platforms, I tank him on one extreme corner and the Healer stands on the other extreme corner with this he never rushes the healer only the DPS on the other platforms letting the healer have more control of his surroundings and not getting taken out mid cast. The other nice thing about this is the platform is wide enough to keep the balls dropping from actually hitting you. once again keeping the Healer safe and actively healing all of the incoming damage spread across the players
Thanks for doing a detailed walk-through of this expedition! Don't know if you've got these types of videos for the other expeditions, but that would be incredibly helpful, especially for the mutated versions.
wanted to do some donjons. I told myself , "oh, they are looking for a healer for Forge. Let's try it and help them"^^ hahahahahahaha, I was the one needing help xD It was my first time there 35 minutes ago !!! I'm never going back again without being fireproof !!!
About the conditioning. I've done this in muts also, but the conditioning will not go over the 50% cap, it's doesn't help against the first hit, and it doesn't proc on every skill in pvp (don't know about pve). I prefer to just go with the 58% fire res full gems and ammy setup. Not saying the condition is bad, just a PSA. Thanks for the excellent video.
Thanks! I don't like running maxed out res because it requires maxing out way more gear since bosses in particular still tend to do a lot of physical dmg (not having the ele split and all). In the Forge in particular, imo Conditioning only working after the first hit isn't a problem. There aren't many oneshot mechanics, but a lot of ticking damage instances from things on the floor or multiple things hitting you after each other. So unless you're full gemming, you should get reasonable benefit from Conditioning on Ifrit and Marius!
tips: in this video "The Heel Room 2: Foundry"part, acutally you can go right and tank can use leaping strike to a rock and claim up to the elite area, the GS also can do the same thing, healer just stay down and heal , no need to run through the stopper and this dungeon no need to gather all in order to get a gold, just save time
@@Google_Censored_Commenter i get that and i'm sure there are really cool guys out there, but i have 1 maybe 2 hours of game time between family and work so I'm not that keen on socializing in-game.
Nice video. I quit New World this week after logging in to see the price trajectory of the seasons listings. If the game wasn't dead enough, now AGS wants to milk its whales. Good luck.
Yep, GW did pay for convenience properly. AGS, in a very scummy way, knew we have too many wards and bane gear, storage and carrying dungeon gear is painfully annoying, so they go ahead and add in human bane and ward, and then have the audacity to charge us for gear slot storage... Let that sink in. This game needs new Lead Developers, not the current trash running the show, Scot Lane. Scummy behavior, for an amazing game being destroyed by these current devs.
@@_c_e_ 600 gems for a bag slot that isn't account wide, great example buddy. Gw2 is fine but lets not pretend their cash shop isn't filled with all the neat skins and much needed convenience. The amount of useless loot the game throws at you to purposefully inconvenience you in gw2 is mind blogging.
@@harrynazarian3184 So much of the gw2 community would disagree with you but go on. I enjoy gw2 and feel what they do is needed esp with the small team they have but their cash shop is not "properly"...
It seems some of his attacks can be interrupted? So far I think we've interrupted the lava ground and fire volcano pits. It doesnt ever show a stamina bar but I think it is possible
tried it for my first time last night, after putting the game down for 7 months, and wow. What an awesome dungeon. New World really hits dungeons out of the park.
Sword DPS armor issue. Tested Heavy and Medium 300 Str 50 Dex in Medium I am getting more damage when I crit with light attacks, while non-crit light attacks do more damage in heavy. Is this a new change in the patch? Is this something just with swords? I plan to test other weapons tonight, but was just wondering if this is a known interaction and I just am finding out or something new with the patch?
That "back swing" just looks like the wide up of the hvy attack on the axe, look out for it, lol. Benedict G. and his speed running group have got the run down to 16 mins all ready. The dungeon can't be that tough as he doesn't even have any lego gear. Just ward and bane with appropriate gems. No trophies either. That last boss though is just scary for me and I'm not even into mutations yet.
It's a particular execute-ish heavy attack he does. "Back swing" refers to any attack that can hit you while standing behind him. But you can somewhat stand to the left of him and it won't hit you. Lego gear rarely makes a significant difference btw, since the 3rd perk is usually just refreshing anyways. I don't find the dungeon particularly difficult now, but that's after learning all of the mechanics. The first fight on the last boss was super chaotic, which made it feel a lot harder.
The lack of world drops for a completely new ward/bane is a bit rough. Perfect time for any new/lowbies to come get free carries thru Amrine ;) Fun dungeon though. I am looking forward to it being a little easier as I am able to craft some pieces here and there. Thanks for the awesome guide as always!
@@yipp_yippee yes but the drop rate can get sketchy when there is a massive group going, so while that's my preferrred spot I like to have an alternative like the 2 elites Vangs. in Ebon and the ez speed runs of Amrine. Good luck with your farms all!
There is much safer way to do the boss where you actually play by his mechanics. The balls are not random. They have a set rotation and the map always has a safe spot on two sides of the arena. The balls rotate in a counter clockwise direction but because of the shape of the arena and geometry, the safe zones rotate in a clockwise direction. When two balls appear, it's easy to start rotating from between the two balls. You then move to the next "step" in a clockwise direction after every ball spawn. Step here is going from platform to inbetween platforms or vice versa. So moving from platform to platform is a single step. The tank can move the boss in the safe area and the ranged can safely DPS from the opposite side of the arena and match the rotations the tank does.
And to add to this. If you pug the run as a tank and your ranged dps/healer will not rotate according to you, you can also do a half circle pattern. Which would be the following: balls drop -> step clockwise -> balls drop -> step clockwise -> balls drop -> two steps backwards -> repeat
The clockwise rotation is a good point, but as a melee DPS I would hate it if the tank was constantly dragging the boss to the next safe spot. It's easy enough to avoid the balls while staying in one area. If you're running a full ranged team, your strategy would be great though!
@@DukeSloth the boss already constantly spins away with whirlwind attack. You can reposition very easily between the balls. You don’t need to constantly drag the boss and make your DPS chase the boss.
Update: Since this video, I've figured that running full Opal instead of Onyx in this expedition makes more sense due to the mages and other magical dmg sources (ice, lightning, fire + void (slicer) and nature from mutation) from regular mobs and bosses having very few physical mechanics. That means if you can afford upgrading 2 sets, having a full ruby set for bosses is actually worth it, too!
PATREON: www.patreon.com/DukeSloth
Timestamps:
00:00 - What's in this guide?
00:27 - Start of the run
01:26 - Gatherable 1
01:47 - Executioner Freyr (Forge Gate)
02:26 - Puzzle Lock 1
03:44 - Ser Eld (Hidden Chamber)
05:20 - Puzzle Lock 2
05:40 - Gatherable 2
05:50 - Puzzle
06:11 - The Heel Room 1
06:25 - Gatherable 3
07:03 - The Heel Room 2: Foundry
07:32 - Gatherable 4
07:56 - The Heel Final Fight
08:30 - Gatherable 5
08:45 - Gatherable 6
08:56 - Ifrit Boss Fight
12:22 - Reliquary (remember gear swapping)
12:52 - Ser Bishop
13:14 - Gatherable 7
13:46 - Lady Bridget & Ser Newlon
14:10 - Gatherable 8
14:26 - Ser Skarin
15:38 - Ser Ducas
17:23 - Gatherable 9 & 10
17:40 - FINAL BOSS: Commander Marius (Swap gear!)
18:13 - Attack 1: Whirlwind
18:55 - Attack 2: Execute
19:18 - Attack 3: Volcanoes
20:01 - Attack 4: The Floor Is Lava
20:40 - Attack 5: Overhead Swing (Backswing, rare)
21:10 - Attack 6: Stacking Debuff & Explosion
21:53 - 7. Phase 2: Fireballs
24:32 - 8. Phase 3: Double Fireballs!
25:03 - Gearing: Gems & Amulets
26:00 - Gearing: Human Ward & Flame Conditioning
26:46 - Gearing: Human Ward Drops vs Crafting
Thanks for this ... just got back after a few months off, nice to be able to see whats going on
Welcome back! :)
So a few things regarding Marius:
1- When he summons volcanos he slams his axe on the ground, these slams do damage from his front, they can also bug out and hit people behind but it doesn't seem intended.
2- EVERYTHING gets interrupted once you do 2 bars of damage, he's like f this im summoning lava.
3- As a melee dps I've had very bad experiences holding block that could much more easily be avoided by dodging. For example stuck in a corner as he spins towards me, breaks my block and im stunned, volcanos have spawned but lucky me I'm not stunned in one however a ball lands next to me and staggers me in to a volcano removing my remaining health. Rolling in to his spin if all other options aren't better is 100% better than blocking in light gear at least.
I give this Dungeon a 9.5/10. Very well thought out dungeon. The last boss is a whole new meaning of cracked. Very fun but isnt dragged out so you can run multiple times in an hour which is nice.
He will be interrupted at 80%hp to start doing the lava floor. He does same thing at 50%hp for ball phase too, I think.
One thing you didn't note is that the fireballs both single and double rotate anti clockwise so can be predictable. Also the double balls fall in order making it possible to stand in the path of the last ball to fall while the first comes down.
Do you have suggestion for a healer in this dungeon ?
The Fireballs drop in a clockwise rotation. Then when two drop, they still follow the same pattern. So two platforms will have a boulder, and one platform will be "safe". The whole thing will then rotate clockwise for the next drop. This is good to know so you can keep up with where the boulders will be rolling to.
What has worked great for me is the Platform he is standing on in the beginning its much much wider than the other 2 platforms, I tank him on one extreme corner and the Healer stands on the other extreme corner with this he never rushes the healer only the DPS on the other platforms letting the healer have more control of his surroundings and not getting taken out mid cast. The other nice thing about this is the platform is wide enough to keep the balls dropping from actually hitting you. once again keeping the Healer safe and actively healing all of the incoming damage spread across the players
Ser Eld we brought them all back to previous large room. in the open space made it way easier and ofc nuke adds asap
Oh sheee I am in an duke video, I’ll show you the blunderbuss boss skip next time we run together.
Yooo Robbo, you're celebrity now :))
@@shredbreaker.gaming Yessir
Thanks for doing a detailed walk-through of this expedition! Don't know if you've got these types of videos for the other expeditions, but that would be incredibly helpful, especially for the mutated versions.
I've done one for Starstone as well and will continue to make them for new mutations. We'll see about older mutations later.
wanted to do some donjons. I told myself , "oh, they are looking for a healer for Forge. Let's try it and help them"^^ hahahahahahaha, I was the one needing help xD It was my first time there 35 minutes ago !!! I'm never going back again without being fireproof !!!
nwdb says ifrit is human but then says blighter dryad? which is it? is this boss human or AE?
The group before the boss was weak because the boss never thought anyone would get that far
Onyxes on mutation????????? when more DR u get with elemental gem
About the conditioning. I've done this in muts also, but the conditioning will not go over the 50% cap, it's doesn't help against the first hit, and it doesn't proc on every skill in pvp (don't know about pve). I prefer to just go with the 58% fire res full gems and ammy setup. Not saying the condition is bad, just a PSA. Thanks for the excellent video.
Thanks! I don't like running maxed out res because it requires maxing out way more gear since bosses in particular still tend to do a lot of physical dmg (not having the ele split and all). In the Forge in particular, imo Conditioning only working after the first hit isn't a problem. There aren't many oneshot mechanics, but a lot of ticking damage instances from things on the floor or multiple things hitting you after each other. So unless you're full gemming, you should get reasonable benefit from Conditioning on Ifrit and Marius!
Cheers but this expedition too stressful on first boss, several groups already rage quit, and I can't be £ked with it.
tips: in this video "The Heel Room 2: Foundry"part, acutally you can go right and tank can use leaping strike to a rock and claim up to the elite area, the GS also can do the same thing, healer just stay down and heal , no need to run through the stopper and this dungeon no need to gather all in order to get a gold, just save time
Yeah I mentioned that one, but I wouldn't recommend it for a group that hasn't practiced the skip.
do expeditions scale with group size yet? if not, F that!!!!! I don't have 5 friends to play and i really don't like playing with randoms.
join a company, make friends. It's doable.
Then don't play mmos...
@@Google_Censored_Commenter i get that and i'm sure there are really cool guys out there, but i have 1 maybe 2 hours of game time between family and work so I'm not that keen on socializing in-game.
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 L take bro. there is solo content for a reason. so why would scaling be such a bad thing?!
@@gr00bar76 I have a company with a lot of older people with jobs and lives. We schedule expeditions for them when they're on.
Nice video. I quit New World this week after logging in to see the price trajectory of the seasons listings. If the game wasn't dead enough, now AGS wants to milk its whales. Good luck.
I don't like it either but how do you expect them to make money to fund more of the game when they don't even have a monthly sub?
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 I'm all for paying for new content. They set the model from the start, then changed the terms later. Guild Wars did it right.
Yep, GW did pay for convenience properly. AGS, in a very scummy way, knew we have too many wards and bane gear, storage and carrying dungeon gear is painfully annoying, so they go ahead and add in human bane and ward, and then have the audacity to charge us for gear slot storage... Let that sink in. This game needs new Lead Developers, not the current trash running the show, Scot Lane. Scummy behavior, for an amazing game being destroyed by these current devs.
@@_c_e_ 600 gems for a bag slot that isn't account wide, great example buddy. Gw2 is fine but lets not pretend their cash shop isn't filled with all the neat skins and much needed convenience. The amount of useless loot the game throws at you to purposefully inconvenience you in gw2 is mind blogging.
@@harrynazarian3184 So much of the gw2 community would disagree with you but go on. I enjoy gw2 and feel what they do is needed esp with the small team they have but their cash shop is not "properly"...
do you need to have gear changes for the regular expedition? im a noob lol
Not necessarily, but it can make things easier if you're struggling!
It seems some of his attacks can be interrupted? So far I think we've interrupted the lava ground and fire volcano pits. It doesnt ever show a stamina bar but I think it is possible
tried it for my first time last night, after putting the game down for 7 months, and wow. What an awesome dungeon. New World really hits dungeons out of the park.
I believe the interruption on Marius is health based, aroun 80% 60% 40 etc.
we need like 20 gear set slots, 9 is not enough
Sword DPS armor issue. Tested Heavy and Medium 300 Str 50 Dex in Medium I am getting more damage when I crit with light attacks, while non-crit light attacks do more damage in heavy. Is this a new change in the patch? Is this something just with swords? I plan to test other weapons tonight, but was just wondering if this is a known interaction and I just am finding out or something new with the patch?
Not a known interaction, definitely sounds like a bug
That "back swing" just looks like the wide up of the hvy attack on the axe, look out for it, lol. Benedict G. and his speed running group have got the run down to 16 mins all ready. The dungeon can't be that tough as he doesn't even have any lego gear. Just ward and bane with appropriate gems. No trophies either. That last boss though is just scary for me and I'm not even into mutations yet.
It's a particular execute-ish heavy attack he does. "Back swing" refers to any attack that can hit you while standing behind him. But you can somewhat stand to the left of him and it won't hit you. Lego gear rarely makes a significant difference btw, since the 3rd perk is usually just refreshing anyways. I don't find the dungeon particularly difficult now, but that's after learning all of the mechanics. The first fight on the last boss was super chaotic, which made it feel a lot harder.
The lack of world drops for a completely new ward/bane is a bit rough. Perfect time for any new/lowbies to come get free carries thru Amrine ;) Fun dungeon though. I am looking forward to it being a little easier as I am able to craft some pieces here and there. Thanks for the awesome guide as always!
Church mobs in EB drop Human Bane/Ward Craft Mods... fyi
@@yipp_yippee yes but the drop rate can get sketchy when there is a massive group going, so while that's my preferrred spot I like to have an alternative like the 2 elites Vangs. in Ebon and the ez speed runs of Amrine. Good luck with your farms all!
There is much safer way to do the boss where you actually play by his mechanics. The balls are not random. They have a set rotation and the map always has a safe spot on two sides of the arena. The balls rotate in a counter clockwise direction but because of the shape of the arena and geometry, the safe zones rotate in a clockwise direction.
When two balls appear, it's easy to start rotating from between the two balls. You then move to the next "step" in a clockwise direction after every ball spawn. Step here is going from platform to inbetween platforms or vice versa. So moving from platform to platform is a single step.
The tank can move the boss in the safe area and the ranged can safely DPS from the opposite side of the arena and match the rotations the tank does.
And to add to this. If you pug the run as a tank and your ranged dps/healer will not rotate according to you, you can also do a half circle pattern. Which would be the following:
balls drop -> step clockwise -> balls drop -> step clockwise -> balls drop -> two steps backwards -> repeat
The clockwise rotation is a good point, but as a melee DPS I would hate it if the tank was constantly dragging the boss to the next safe spot. It's easy enough to avoid the balls while staying in one area. If you're running a full ranged team, your strategy would be great though!
@@DukeSloth the boss already constantly spins away with whirlwind attack. You can reposition very easily between the balls. You don’t need to constantly drag the boss and make your DPS chase the boss.
I got the heavy boots and I only reached M2... just FYI
Hard pass on gearing for this 🤣
Yip tired of the power creep gear grind.
Too much $hit going on in this expedition, too stressful.
Just looks like a mess.
@@Nzchimeran The expedition ain't terrible. Just not trying to get anymore wards sets. It's enough.
whats ur gs and spear build?