CPU Revealed! AtGames Legends Ultimate Arcade Mainboard Teardown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2019
- So ever since I got my hands on the new AtGames Legends Ultimate Arcade I have been wondering what CPU is powering this arcade cab but the Heatsink is soldered onto the mainboard so in order to remove it we have to drill or desolder it! and in this video, I finally get the heatsink off the board and find out what Cpu and how much ram this cabinet is rocking! Is it RockChip, Allwinner Amlogic? Let's find out.
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Very cool, I had just reached out to atgames to see if I could get that info. Thanks for making this video, it will greatly help with development on this machine.
asking is free and not burdensome, but maybe ETa just try to mod this CPU in the next video
They wouldn't of told you anything but, it's a custom pcb...many had tried already..What prime did was the only way we were getting that info anytime soon.
Ive been wanting for your next legends ultimate vid. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing, always fun to see the inside !
>Doesn't want to damage the board desoldering
>PROCEEDS TO DRILL THE BOARD
Generally, if you have the ability to cleanly drill out the studs, it is safer than desoldering (both can be done safely, yes - one is just lower risk to the board)
@@Alzorath yeah true if he doesn't have the tools, if he had solder wick, flux and a iron he'd have it off in no time.
@@hx8457 yeah i was wondering the same thing. I'm quite new with soldering but if you're careful which most people are it should be simple enough.
desoldering is piss easy, you would have to be real newbe to stuff it up oO
Yeah I don't feel like I am good at soldering but I would have soldered over drill, no question
Yessir! I love the in depth teardowns.
Very interesting that it's somewhat comparable to the Android TV. Yes, it has a custom PCB and you also have the license rights to play arcade games. The one thing I do like with this cabinet vs the Arcade1up that you mentioned before is the height of the cabinet.
Not a bad price however I'm looking forward to seeing you change parts out (if you plan on it). Thanks for the video!
You never fail to impress!!! Awesome video dude!!!
I remember being six years old and standing on a wooden box to reach controls on arcade cabinets for Millipede, Crystal Castles and Elevator Action. I imagined machines to be completely filled with wires and circuits, I was shocked to see they were mostly empty inside xĐ
This is not an old school Arcade Machine , the Real Arcade Machines did have lots of wires and big boards , so it was not Empty like the one you saw on this video.
I wasn't expecting anything great. I mean, it's AtGames we're talking about here. Cool video, man!
It's interesting to see that my system with a pentium from 2010 is still more capable than most of these single board systems, and it was way cheaper too
Great video! Thanks for the information!
I cant wait for you to put one of your budget used PC builds in this thing.... to see how it really works...
Awesome breakdown
Thanks for the informative video!
The used Rockchip. Great. Well, that explains the audio lagging behind video, by half a second. AtGames denies it, though, even though I sent in a video, to prove the defect. Thanks for sharing this.
Very brave! Thanks for sharing
I want to add an AtGames spinner to my Legends Gamer Pro
so I was glad that I came across this video of what the Arcade
looks like when opened up. Hopefully I won't have too much
trouble locating a 4 pin cable that will work.
You are the only legend in this video 👍
Thanks for sharing. My guess was pretty close. It’s a shame it won’t be able to handle better emulators
Thank you so much. This video saved me $500+ dollars. I really expected more power.
ETA Prime rules
Will be interesting to what people will be able to do with this now.
The other features way makeup for the cpu power (that will play all the ARCADE games I want anyway). Hdmi inputs, bluetooth, arcadenet, byog cloud server, Im also local streaming bigbox from my pc.
Love you vids man - really amazing stuff. I have a 1up cab and I was going to use your video on how to mod / upgrade it however looking at this AtGames cab, is there a vid for mod / upgrade for this one? I would rather buy this one and give it the once over. Thank you as always!
My guess was pretty close. I was in the same market segment. I guessed it was one of the Amlogic S905 variants. The A53-based chips at about 1.5ghz are pretty capable for this sort of emulation and I don't recall seeing anything that would make me guess that it was something higher. I think there's still a good bit of time before we see a jump in power in the lower market segment.
Two videos back to back? I’ll take it.
Noah S haha ya
What has me amazed is how well their software runs on this chip. AtGames has some skilled people working on software.
Great video, I am waiting for AtGAMES to send me a parts to repair my LUA that freezes after 10 minutes. in the mean time I will play on my Arcade1ups.
Rk3328 is an old chip but it is extremely well optimized and not a bad decision cost wise.
Also you could probably leave the heatsink off, it's most likely only using 5 watts.
I want to install Ultimarc mag stick plus joysticks on this because you can change to 4way and to 8way from the top with out opening the back up and moving the gates. I also was thinking of changing to Servostick that Ultimarc makes that changes the state 4way to 8 way of a press of a button but gets a little more complicating and have to use outside pc to program them. I don't know if you can do this to wiring one up. What are your thoughts?
Have you seen the full sized TheC64 has launched? Might be an ideal device for putting a more powerful SBC into.
I’m receiving a message on my screen “no signal press the button to switch between display channels.” Upon turning the arcade on after assembly. Any suggestions?
Just a fun fact, I contacted Atgames directly, curious about the specs a few months back when I was looking into buying one of these. They sent me directly to this video.
hahahaha
I have watched your tutorial videos on hooking up a Raspberry PI to my Ultimate Arcade but since the videos were approx. 1 year old and I have a newer unit (bought a month ago with all the updated firmware) i cannot get my PI to Bluetooth with the system. Could you do an updated video (with the updated firmware) on this? Thank You!!
I would love to see hyperspin big Box or retroarch hyperpie on it
You can do that through the hdmi and bluetooth or stream from your pc
Hi, how can you add custom scanline shaders to legends ultimate?
If you dont know how to, I highly recommend looking into accessing the command line debugger through the exposed debug port.
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I want to see a raspberry pi install for this cabinet. Or it would be cool to see an old laptops guts repurposed to run it.
Just put an raspi in an old arcade cabinet.
@Deon Denis Nothing, as this thing runs about as well as a pi.
Hello, love your videos! Have you heard, or had any experience with, the freezing issues many seem to have on these? I just bought a generation 1.0 machine last weekend and it freezes constantly. Says "security chip: NG" on the health page. Most say that it's a board issue. Sounds like a memory bleed or bad RAM to me. Can't believe there's not a fix for this.
ETA PRIME When are you going to do a video on how you install a raspberry pie to the AtGames Legends arcade using a hdmi splitter.
Thanks for showing this. I was really wanting one but was balking at the $500-600 dollar price tag. I dont really think the CPU used justifies the price tag to buy one honestly. I think I'm going with my original plan to buy a gutted arcade machine for $100 and use my own computer to build a mame machine for emulation. It's much cheaper that way and I will be able to run more games on it.
I'll say I love my machine but when your right, your right. Not to mention then you wouldn't have to worry about streaming it from a desktop
Any way to get a different marquee for this? I’m turning mine into a Polybius cabinet.
Oh man crazy
i vove the spinners ... which they they are and reposition where exactly ? thanks to let me kmow
These guys are sold out pretty much Nation wide now! Tried to get one this last weekend!
Yep. There were quite a few of us who missed out on their one day sale. I vented by email to managers of several stores in our area. One manager of the store nearest to me reached out and offered to honor the sale price on the next batch that comes in. So, might be worth a few phones calls if you're still trying to nab one of these.
@@roythomasbaker thanks for the heads up.
What would you say is the limit to the boards emulation? Where should people stop when trying to create core for it? N46? PS1?
Is it possible to add a USB switch (under the console) to add a external hard drive under the cabinet?
Plays SNES, Sega Genesis, Sega CD no problem so far but Can it handle N64 or PS1?
There are some people that have gotten SOME N64 games working on it at playable levels, but not optimal. Assume it won't work until you do a Google search and find someone who got it working. Mario Kart 64 is one that comes to mind, I saw someone working on that a few months ago.
Looking at the SoC inside I think I would have been happier if they did just stick a mid-end Android Box with a custom OS inside than the low end Rockchip they did go for. Well shouldn't be too surprised, it is AtGames afterall.
Time to put that Atomic Pi in there!
I updated my cab yesterday and I see an icon for “raspberry pi”. Can you get a video ready on how to connect to a pi?
can we replace the main board and hookup a sff pc or a raspberry pie to screen and controls?
I really want nfl blitz on mine. The CPU and GPU specs should handle it. Ever get it to run on yours?
Just seen the video of it do you know if you can upgrade it to the rock chip latest version or would you have to get it from the company?
Is there room to change out the screen for a larger screen ?
I wonder how hard it would be to replace the mainboard with a Pi 3b or even 4 and just run emulations that way? Would it be worth it?
How to disable Bluetooth it’s now allowing my control panel not to work
I would be way more worried about breaking something with a drill than desoldering the mounting points lol scary
Could they not have used an UDOO RYZEN BOLT V1000 Maker Board SBC with some form of emulator that runs on on an 80586 processor or something.
What’s the best way two get donkey Kong or pack man on without spending a fortune
I could have sworn someone posted how to get a shell on the unit? If so you wouldn't need to pop the heatsink off, you could just pull the specs from Linux directly.
Any news on the release of Android for RPi4?
Where are you finding the H96 max with rk3328 fo $25?! I can't find it under $50
Alibaba and AliExpress is your best bet
If you haven't, hop on by the LegendsUltimate sub-reddit - www.reddit.com/r/LegendsUltimate/comments/e1b8wj/we_have_root/ The hardware specs were posted about 3 weeks ago (and didn't require any drilling or desoldering).
imagine having an entire arcade machine with barely a lb of junk 20 dollar china silicon running it
Did you get to cover CPS-3 and NeoGeo on your other video? That's all I really care for every time I set up an emulation system.
I don't know about CPS3, but chips of this sort should have no problem with Neo Geo.
Been playing several NEO Geo games on it
Can you get Capcom vs snk 2 to run
Put the Udoo Bolt V8 in there
If you just run a raspberry pi to the HDMI from inside the cabinet and use the controls via Bluetooth, is the input latency bad at all?
Well Bluetooth always means significantly higher latency.
You can plug into hdmi right on the control panel
p.s. This may void your warranty! :)
I'm sure he knows that already
@@MrBoop4345 Sarcasm undetected I guess.
@@conman2k1 I thought it was rather amusing. Well done!
Specs of this custom SBC should be comparable to a Raspberry Pi 3. Pretty weak for 2019, considering this isn't even a portable device.
@4:14: H5TQ4G63EFR is a 4 gibabit chip. That translates to 1GB for two chips. Are there more RAM chips on the other side of the board ?
I have seen a pic of the bottom, no RAM chips underneath. So only 1GB of ram
Hey do you think the MISTer nano-10 could be played here ?
Yes. It connects bluetooth to pis pcs and other devices without modding
When will you be doing the video on hiding the HDMI splitter and the Raspberry pie. Thanks love you vids
Question: how easy would it be if its even possible to change out the buttons for something like sanwa?
It's very easy, almost like changing a light bulb. Screw it out, place in news buttons. Reattach the wires.
I would make sure all the plugs are the right ones before buying, screwed up myself due to inexperience.
"This is a custom board and not just some android TV box"
Proceeds to discover it's a android TV box cpu inside....
Cpu is same as some android boxes. But Mr Prime is correct its a custom pcb that houses all the controller inputs etc.
@@matvex829 I know...😉👍
@@lepterfirefall doesn't sound like you do
@@geovani60624 it's called irony.
@@lepterfirefall and junk
Did ETA just threw some shade towards Atari? Lol
Has anyone been able to get doom, quake, or mario 64 on it?
Now way quality like that can be AtGames
Wonder if you can Dump the OS and throw it on a Pi4
AtGames or no it BETTER be quality at that price.
Mine done light up or talk got on a skid
זה עדין יותר חזק מps3 ?
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ETA PRIME I cant seems to get an answer whos spinners there using (or what type) .... can you tell?? also whos trackball as well???
They are their own spinners similar to Glenn's retro
@@flpennstater305 ooohhh.... potentiometer type.... EEEKKKK .......is it at least weighted?
They are nice metal ones with good weight. Can't tell the difference personally between Glen's and these besides color. They are high quality. Not like the 1 up crap
Secrets!!!
ETA PRIME be like
- I just bought my wife an At Games Legends Ultimate Arcade Console...
😁😁😁👍👍👍
The WiFi would probably work better if they would have attached a antenna to it. WTF?! Why is there no antenna on the board nor on the coaxial antenna connector.
Put a Mister in there
Is that more or less powerful?
Now get the o.s off this thing tell us how to connect the parts to a motherboard and let's have a beast arcade 😂
rockchip, no thanks
Why can’t we get a console or product that can play Dreamcast and above.
I think part of that is due to DC emulation still needing some work. With products like this, manufacturers don't have much incentive to go with higher-end CPUs when their cost is a big concern. TV box chips like the 3328 are very inexpensive and can emulate a lot of things so it's a good trade off. But there are ways to do Dreamcast with some products or boards.
A 20 dollar chip for a - i estimate - 400 dollar device? Okay, it is a customized motherboard, but still....
Jan Jacobs iPhone anyone? $200 in components, $1000+ price tag.
Well you can buy a $400 1up that has a pcb that plays a total of 4 games if that floats your boat with controls that only fit those games and that you have to mod to do anything with
I 100% agree.... I scratch build one of my Bartops for less than $100... if this was sold for $300ish it might be worth not sourcing all the parts.... but noway at $499 .... well unless someone wants to gift it to me.... ;)
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wtf. desoldering is the easiest thing to do yet you go all caveman on it with a drill?
Pretty sure AtGames doesn't want anyone to develop for their arcade systems....
but whatever. Thanks for potentially destroying your stuff so we could see whats inside!. It is very interesting see how hardware is used in these devices.
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How is this the same company that made such crappy Genesis consoles?
Just as a unit it has nothing but trash game's, with the title Legends Ultimate you would think it would have a better tear of game's
Wow that's some serious weak ass cpu.
So at Games build it with cheap trash chip and ram thats why they made it none removable then charger Canadians 899.00 plus taxes over a thousand for 4years extended warenty and with pin ball buttons for the 1.1. The price i paid for this is embarrassing to find this out have you seen how cheap these parts are at games has along way to go extremely disappointed is a understatement. I just hope it lasts and well aware moving parts fail but these cheap chip and ram is so lame
Crap company and machine
Metal shavings could be picked up by your pet dude. Just saying.
Only if the pet has posable thumb's....🤔