The bears made the Preliminary final in 1996, seriously they didn't need Fitzroy.. Long live the Brisbane Bears, will always be known as the Brisbane bears.. 4 premierships 👌👌👌
Although I am (and always will be) a very proud Member and Supporter of my beloved Kangas, I really enjoyed watching The Brisbane Lions of this era in particular. Daring and Dashing Darryl White was one of my favourite Players, He had a freakish ability to make The (near on) Impossible, actually look quite possible, when He was shooting for Goal especially.
Fascinating to learn about the reasons that led to the Mighty Roys leaving Brunswick St., which was the beginning of the end. As you correctly stated, they actually used to get big crowds there when they had good sides, same with Dogs at Western Oval. I'll always be bitter and disgusted about what they did to both South and Fitzroy...they were Stalinized to make way for tv teams...and our city has been dying ever since. Roys were very close fo winning in 83...would have made it nearly impossible to kill them off if they had have.
0:22 The VFL poster on the screen is from the late 1970s early 1980s, just before South Melbourne relocated to Sydney. One of the few times when Teams had Logos and the VFL was a mostly Victorian based competition before the expansion into NSW and Queensland started as well as arranging Expansion Clubs with the SANFL and WAFL leagues.
The ONLY reason Brisbane did not win the GF in 2004, was because they were forced to play the Prelim against the cats at a wet and cold MCG. Totally robbed..
1:15 The Gorillas logo wasn't really their official club Logo Shield as the Shield Logos would start in the mid 1970s when the VFL became a bigger and marketable competition within Victoria with Color TV being the big push. But if the Logo Shields were around back in the 1940s, this would have been the best interpretation of the Fitzroy Gorillas logo that they used to be known as back in the 1930s and 1940s before becoming the Lions in the 1950s.
In 1996 the Brisbane Bears were not Broke they were a Powerhouse. They played in a Preliminary Final against the Premiers North Melbourne. In their first three seasons, the Bears won 6, 7, and 8 matches which are far better than the GWS and Suns' first three seasons.
The Bears were never a powerhouse club, but towards the end of their existence, they started to come together as a decent team. This was bcos they had a good portion of the 3peat Lions playing for them.
@@seewobble7048 Compare the Bears with the Suns and GWS in the first 3 Seasons. GWS won 3 games in 2 season and were praised by the media. The Bears won 21 in 3 years and were bagged and called the Bad News Bears. The Bears made the finals in their 9th season and won a flag in their 14th. This is the Suns 14th and I don't think they will be winning a GF anyone soon.
This kind of domination will probably never happen again, a LOT of the playing group resisted bigger offers from other teams, and these days the money they throw around is insane, it only leaves room for 1 or 2 stars per team unless the entire group is in it for the success instead of the money
I don't want to nitpick, but you should clarify that Bunton Snr never played a final, let alone a premiership for Fitzroy. His time was between the 1922 and 44 premierships. Also, I don't know if it would've changed the result but Anthony Rocca's suspension I felt cost us being a chance in the 2003 GF. Left a massive hole in the forward line.
Great content you're creating mate. A bit of constructive criticism. Check sources of where you're accessing your information because there is a quite a few little inaccuracies that only die hard fans will pick up on. That being said, those people will probably be the meat and potatoes of your subscribers in the beginning until you start reaching a larger audience. Keep it up though mate I have no doubt if you stay consistent you will get to where you want to be 👍
Kevin murray lives down my road (im not kidding ) but he doesnt like people randomly visiting his hiuse so thats why i cant get a signature (according to my dad)
The only colour the Brisbane Lions inherited from Fitzroy was the blue. Bizarre that you claim that a club that had maroon as one of its colours inherited "maroon & blue from Fitzroy."
They merged with Fitzroy, took their best players, got half of Collingwoods coaching staff and administrators and were given extra room in their salery cap to keep the good players.... that's how they won 3 flags!
If the pies had played the better footy like you suggest, then they should've won. But they didn't win bcos Brisbane played the better footy. Luck had nothing to do with it.
2023 for brisbane is so significant as it will be the first premiership that they win legitimately without major salary cap assistance. In Victoria everyone views the 3 cups with an asterisk beside them
No they don't, just the few who can't add up the cost of traveling interstate every away game as apposed to driving down the road to play another Victorian team
😅😅🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ no silly. What else are you going to offer 18-20 year olds to leave home and family go to a club on the other side of the country in a state where the game isn't well supported and travel that much for a club that was a marriage (experiment/first and only ever merge) of 2 failed clubs..gonna need more than pie and coke. Barely any revenue from membership, hardly had a gate over 20-25k. Plus an entire state (vic) willing your demise. Also how could the salary cap be that big if you had majority of your star players (and there was alot) volunteer for pay cuts to keep the side together. Good chat enjoy the season
And that would be why Victorians are seen as morons. The salary cap was to keep 2nd tier players so that Brisbane could field a team. The fact that you vics don't take Qld's particular circumstances into account but assume that just bcos you love Aussie rules then it will be massively popular everywhere else shows why the interstate clubs & fans keep calling out the vic bias in the league. The only ones putting an asterisk beside the 3peat Lions flags are the jealous flops whose clubs simply weren't good enough.
When you merge 2 clubs and give them an extra million in the salary cap you should get a good side, but it's purely manufactured to the point of sanctioned cheating
@@seewobble7048 Cried many salty tears last year winning our 16th premiership, perfect karma that it was the Lions that propelled us to GOAT status... better percentage over 127 years than Ess/Carl who both cheated the salary cap in their 16th premiership years... I guess only the King wins them without cheating or sad handouts 😎
@@steve8510 perfect Karma is watching the colliwobble 'dynasty' turn to ashes in under a year and the Lions get to the GF and win again. Enjoy glazing the Daicos bros champ :D
The AFL did not spoon feed the Bears. The Bears were left to their own devices with barely any intervention from the AFL at all. As for the Bears taking over Fitzroy, that was on the AFL. It was they who had no desire to save the roys.
The AFL's desire to have interstate teams win premierships had a lot to do with those premierships. Brisbane are the only team ever to have retention money in their salary cap to enable them to keep their best players. Their premierships need to have an asterix next to them to explain that favortism
The salary cap was to pay overs to keep 2nd tier players so that Brisbane could continue to field a team. When u don't play in a "football state" young players don't want to be there so paying them more than they're worth is the only option. A lot of flops on here who don't comprehend Qlds particular circumstances & think the AFL just gave them extra salary cap.....bcos reasons.
How did The Brisbane lions go from broke to 3 premierships, they had a guardian angel on their shoulder and the angel was the AFL gave them every concession under sun, they gave them 500,000 in their Salary cap, more than any other club, that's how much they paid Alistair Lynch ,without that money he would not have played with Brisbane they would have broke their salary cap rules
The AFL decided to seriously develop a presence in SE QLD and that meant they needed a strong Brisbane Lions not a retirement camp Brisbane Bears. Everything was done to make this a success. They ended up with a playing list, especially the midfield, that would have been the envy of any club ever in history. Money and salary cap restrictions simply did not matter because success in SE QLD was all important. They had a ride on the umpires that would embarrass even the west coast eagles. The draw was done to their advantage with Melbourne clubs even having to play home games against Brisbane at the Gabba. Most Victorians copped it sweet when they started winning grand finals because they beat the likes of Collingwood and Essendon so the rest of us loved it and the fact it was a ridiculously lop sided playing field flew under the radar. They were hugely successful but in reality it was one of the most over rated success stories in sporting history. Compared to the achievement of Hawthorn winning three in a row or even the sustained success over 15 years achieved by Geelong Brisbane are over rated?
Over rated?? If the Brisbane Lions players didn't have it in them to be champions they would not have won those flags. PERIODT. When salty non-Brisbane fans sook about how the 'aFl hElPeD bRiSbAnE tO cHeAt' all they do is look like the salty jealous losers they are :)
I miss Fitzroy
I did a documentary about the Fitzroy Lions not knowing there was this banger of a video I guess I’ll credit u in the desc
Where can I watch it?
The bears made the Preliminary final in 1996, seriously they didn't need Fitzroy.. Long live the Brisbane Bears, will always be known as the Brisbane bears.. 4 premierships 👌👌👌
Although I am (and always will be) a very proud Member and Supporter of my beloved Kangas, I really enjoyed watching The Brisbane Lions of this era in particular. Daring and Dashing Darryl White was one of my favourite Players, He had a freakish ability to make The (near on) Impossible, actually look quite possible, when He was shooting for Goal especially.
Fascinating to learn about the reasons that led to the Mighty Roys leaving Brunswick St., which was the beginning of the end. As you correctly stated, they actually used to get big crowds there when they had good sides, same with Dogs at Western Oval. I'll always be bitter and disgusted about what they did to both South and Fitzroy...they were Stalinized to make way for tv teams...and our city has been dying ever since.
Roys were very close fo winning in 83...would have made it nearly impossible to kill them off if they had have.
0:22 The VFL poster on the screen is from the late 1970s early 1980s, just before South Melbourne relocated to Sydney.
One of the few times when Teams had Logos and the VFL was a mostly Victorian based competition before the expansion into NSW and Queensland started as well as arranging Expansion Clubs with the SANFL and WAFL leagues.
Great video mate, came up in my suggestions as a Lions supporter. Subscribed.
Great video mate. Keep it up
Thanks 👍
I thought I was the only one that called them the Carrara Koalas. 😀
The ONLY reason Brisbane did not win the GF in 2004, was because they were forced to play the Prelim against the cats at a wet and cold MCG. Totally robbed..
This 💯
🙌🙌🙌
1:15 The Gorillas logo wasn't really their official club Logo Shield as the Shield Logos would start in the mid 1970s when the VFL became a bigger and marketable competition within Victoria with Color TV being the big push.
But if the Logo Shields were around back in the 1940s, this would have been the best interpretation of the Fitzroy Gorillas logo that they used to be known as back in the 1930s and 1940s before becoming the Lions in the 1950s.
In 1996 the Brisbane Bears were not Broke they were a Powerhouse. They played in a Preliminary Final against the Premiers North Melbourne. In their first three seasons, the Bears won 6, 7, and 8 matches which are far better than the GWS and Suns' first three seasons.
Powerhouse? 😂
The Bears were never a powerhouse club, but towards the end of their existence, they started to come together as a decent team. This was bcos they had a good portion of the 3peat Lions playing for them.
@@seewobble7048 Compare the Bears with the Suns and GWS in the first 3 Seasons. GWS won 3 games in 2 season and were praised by the media. The Bears won 21 in 3 years and were bagged and called the Bad News Bears. The Bears made the finals in their 9th season and won a flag in their 14th. This is the Suns 14th and I don't think they will be winning a GF anyone soon.
@@FeminismDebunked - I don't think you understand what the term "powerhouse team" means.
@@FeminismDebunked - and the only flag the Bears won was the 1991 reserves.
and we back boys
This kind of domination will probably never happen again, a LOT of the playing group resisted bigger offers from other teams, and these days the money they throw around is insane, it only leaves room for 1 or 2 stars per team unless the entire group is in it for the success instead of the money
I don't want to nitpick, but you should clarify that Bunton Snr never played a final, let alone a premiership for Fitzroy. His time was between the 1922 and 44 premierships.
Also, I don't know if it would've changed the result but Anthony Rocca's suspension I felt cost us being a chance in the 2003 GF. Left a massive hole in the forward line.
Still to this day, The best team i've ever seen.
Teams (Fitzroy/Bears) with an extra million in the salary cap is more accurate
Alistair Lynch has to be one of the most underated key forwards of all time, had signifigant health struggles but stood up when it counted most.
Alastair Lynch was also the best
full back full forward to play the game
The scumbag who should have been suspended for 13 weeks.
@@kye6971I don't remember him much playing in the FB
@@planetX15 Took on some of the best full forwards to play the game Lockett Dunstall Ablett Longmire Sumich Modra
@@kye6971 I'll take your word for it (I'm not saying that he never played in the FB) that's just news to me
Looking good for a 4th premiership this year.
Great content you're creating mate. A bit of constructive criticism. Check sources of where you're accessing your information because there is a quite a few little inaccuracies that only die hard fans will pick up on. That being said, those people will probably be the meat and potatoes of your subscribers in the beginning until you start reaching a larger audience. Keep it up though mate I have no doubt if you stay consistent you will get to where you want to be 👍
Thanks Craig, will do so! Appreciate your feedback and support mate
Wilfred “Chicken” Smallhorn
2001-2003 Lions are the GOAT team. Next is 2000 Bombers then 2007 Cats
Gold Coast and GWS will be here in 10 years and rightfully so
I didn't know about the "Gorillas" thing and now I wish it had happened. I'd have supported them.
Who’s watching after the lions just won the granny?
imagine if buckley stayed there
He would've won a flag lol
Kevin murray lives down my road (im not kidding ) but he doesnt like people randomly visiting his hiuse so thats why i cant get a signature (according to my dad)
The only colour the Brisbane Lions inherited from Fitzroy was the blue. Bizarre that you claim that a club that had maroon as one of its colours inherited "maroon & blue from Fitzroy."
And Buckley went to Collingwood from Brisbane because he wanted to win premierships 😂🖕
They merged with Fitzroy, took their best players, got half of Collingwoods coaching staff and administrators and were given extra room in their salery cap to keep the good players.... that's how they won 3 flags!
The team won bcos they were great.
Stay mad bro.
Got lucky in 2002. Collingwood played the better football that day.
If the pies had played the better footy like you suggest, then they should've won.
But they didn't win bcos Brisbane played the better footy. Luck had nothing to do with it.
2023 for brisbane is so significant as it will be the first premiership that they win legitimately without major salary cap assistance. In Victoria everyone views the 3 cups with an asterisk beside them
No they don't, just the few who can't add up the cost of traveling interstate every away game as apposed to driving down the road to play another Victorian team
@@butcherboy9749 do U think players pay for their own flights and accommodation for each game...? 😂
😅😅🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ no silly. What else are you going to offer 18-20 year olds to leave home and family go to a club on the other side of the country in a state where the game isn't well supported and travel that much for a club that was a marriage (experiment/first and only ever merge) of 2 failed clubs..gonna need more than pie and coke. Barely any revenue from membership, hardly had a gate over 20-25k. Plus an entire state (vic) willing your demise. Also how could the salary cap be that big if you had majority of your star players (and there was alot) volunteer for pay cuts to keep the side together. Good chat enjoy the season
And that would be why Victorians are seen as morons. The salary cap was to keep 2nd tier players so that Brisbane could field a team.
The fact that you vics don't take Qld's particular circumstances into account but assume that just bcos you love Aussie rules then it will be massively popular everywhere else shows why the interstate clubs & fans keep calling out the vic bias in the league.
The only ones putting an asterisk beside the 3peat Lions flags are the jealous flops whose clubs simply weren't good enough.
When you merge 2 clubs and give them an extra million in the salary cap you should get a good side, but it's purely manufactured to the point of sanctioned cheating
The salary cap was to keep 2nd tier players so that Brisbane could field a team.
But stay salty 😅
@@seewobble7048 Cried many salty tears last year winning our 16th premiership, perfect karma that it was the Lions that propelled us to GOAT status... better percentage over 127 years than Ess/Carl who both cheated the salary cap in their 16th premiership years... I guess only the King wins them without cheating or sad handouts 😎
@@steve8510 perfect Karma is watching the colliwobble 'dynasty' turn to ashes in under a year and the Lions get to the GF and win again.
Enjoy glazing the Daicos bros champ :D
@@Gehan01 BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA BRISLAME ARE OUR BIATCHES... PS 16 FLAGS AND THE GREATEST PERCENTAGE OVER 128 YEARS MAKES US THE GOAT... SORRY MINNOW
The AFL spoon fed the Bears while letting Fitzroy die only for the Bears taking over Fitzroy
The AFL did not spoon feed the Bears. The Bears were left to their own devices with barely any intervention from the AFL at all.
As for the Bears taking over Fitzroy, that was on the AFL. It was they who had no desire to save the roys.
@seewobble7048 in 1990 the Bears were bailed out by the AFL
The AFL's desire to have interstate teams win premierships had a lot to do with those premierships. Brisbane are the only team ever to have retention money in their salary cap to enable them to keep their best players. Their premierships need to have an asterix next to them to explain that favortism
The salary cap was to pay overs to keep 2nd tier players so that Brisbane could continue to field a team. When u don't play in a "football state" young players don't want to be there so paying them more than they're worth is the only option.
A lot of flops on here who don't comprehend Qlds particular circumstances & think the AFL just gave them extra salary cap.....bcos reasons.
How did The Brisbane lions go from broke to 3 premierships, they had a guardian angel on their shoulder and the angel was the AFL gave them every concession under sun, they gave them 500,000 in their Salary cap, more than any other club, that's how much they paid Alistair Lynch ,without that money he would not have played with Brisbane they would have broke their salary cap rules
He moved to Brisbane a couple of years BEFORE Fitzroy were merged. Get your facts right b4 coming on here looking like a plonker.
The AFL decided to seriously develop a presence in SE QLD and that meant they needed a strong Brisbane Lions not a retirement camp Brisbane Bears. Everything was done to make this a success. They ended up with a playing list, especially the midfield, that would have been the envy of any club ever in history. Money and salary cap restrictions simply did not matter because success in SE QLD was all important. They had a ride on the umpires that would embarrass even the west coast eagles. The draw was done to their advantage with Melbourne clubs even having to play home games against Brisbane at the Gabba. Most Victorians copped it sweet when they started winning grand finals because they beat the likes of Collingwood and Essendon so the rest of us loved it and the fact it was a ridiculously lop sided playing field flew under the radar. They were hugely successful but in reality it was one of the most over rated success stories in sporting history. Compared to the achievement of Hawthorn winning three in a row or even the sustained success over 15 years achieved by Geelong Brisbane are over rated?
Over rated??
If the Brisbane Lions players didn't have it in them to be champions they would not have won those flags. PERIODT.
When salty non-Brisbane fans sook about how the 'aFl hElPeD bRiSbAnE tO cHeAt' all they do is look like the salty jealous losers they are :)
The AFL cheated for them. End of video.
Lol! The AFL did no such thing 🤡
just subbed mate popped up in my recommended and looks real good keep it up
Thanks for the sub!