I remember watching Gibbs in the SANFL when all the talk was about him ... and thought, "He's handy ... but I'm not seeing what everyone else is seeing." The only knock on Selwood was that he was - laughably - injury prone. Picking him was seen as a massive risk at the time.
My dad worked as one of the head junior development managers of the U18 National League from 2005-2010, so I remember this vividly when it happened. He was touted as #1 from as early as 15, when he excelled at the 2003 State Championship Athletics Carnival, because he literally dominated on that day. However, Wayne Hughes, Carlton's footy recruitment manager at the time, while never mentioned publicly, always told my dad behind the scenes he had massive concerns about Selwood's durability at AFL level, citing his playstyle "reckless" and saying that he would likely be riddled with injuries. Coupled with a string of small soft-tissue injuries that hampered his underage year and into his draft year, he thought that it would be a wasted pick. From about the start of 2006, Bryce Gibbs was the consensus number 1 pick. He was an ELITE U18 athlete, and had had meetings with Carlton from as early as December 2005 to my memory. For reference, a similarly damaging underage player in South Australia is emerging at the moment in Dyson Sharp, who is my early pick for the #1 in three years time after his accolades at the U15 carnival that just happened last month. That being said, however, it was weird. Due to the rivalry between Scott Gumbleton and Lachlan Hansen at underage level as emerging key bigs, it was predicted that if Selwood didn't go at pick 1, which Carlton toyed with, then he could drop as low as pick 10, and the old man's own mock draft for that year had him going at pick 5, which was eventually used by Travis Boak. All in all, I would blame Carlton's head of recruitment, because Wayne Hughes's own arrogance, and trust me, he had plenty of that, was the sole reason that Carlton didn't select Selwood, as he was touted as a pick 1
Thanks for the insight mate! Gibbs wasn’t a terrible pick I just think he didn’t live up to the potential he could’ve played in. I reckon it had a lot to do with the losing culture at Carlton during that time. But I would’ve loved to see Selwood in the navy blue!
It’s so interesting that the reason Selwood wasn’t chosen higher in the draft became the reason why many of those before him had their careers cut short
Geelong poured a lot of effort into bringing him back to Geelong when Port were down in the dumps, but he stuck it out with Port and now he's one of their greatest ever players
Still baffles be why how Essendon picks Gumbleton over Selwood, Boak and Riewoldt is baffling they didn’t have a plan B and went for the tall because they needed one Jack would’ve been way better!
Gibbs was done dirty in his final years as a AFL player let alone by the club that wanted him. Hardly played him and should have helped Adelaide climb back up the ladder in 2018 and 2019
He played all of 2018 in fact could have won the B&F, by time 2019 came around the club was ready for a rebuild and what an amazing job they have done since than with said rebuild. Gibbs should have been a crow from day one, he would have been lights out based on his potential and unfortunately Carlton’s culture hurt his development
@@officialHbTcs not going to lie. Yes, Adelaide was headed for a rebuild in 2020 and we've (Adelaide is my club) done well since finishing last that year as each year we've won more games. We're headed in the right direction under Matthew Nicks and have a young list thats developed well, a majority of the grand final side were at other clubs by the time 2020 rolled around and were aging and had been in the AFL system for 10+ years by 2020 However, Adelaide still have Rory Sloane and Taylor Walker still playing on average a full season today after being there for nearly 15 years AND being only a year or 2 younger than Gibbs. Gibbs only played 15 games in his last 2 seasons as an AFL player. He was only 33 by the time he retired in 2020 which is the age both Rory Sloane and Taylor Walker are today. The fact I made was, that in 2017 Adelaide re-entered negotiations with Carlton to get Gibbs across to Adelaide as Gibbs wanted to come home to Adelaide and the Crows were keen on landing the trade which they did. They did him dirty by only playing him 12 times in 2019 to only 3 games in 2020. It doesn't make any sense as to why Adelaide even wanted Gibbs in the first place if they only played him a total of 18 times in his final 2 seasons as a Crow.
Unfortunately being at Carlton wouldn’t of helped him. Had he gone to a successful club where they could’ve gotten everything out of him, might’ve been seen in a better light
Miss him already
Yeah bro miss Mitch Thorp
Miss sellwood as well
The level of detail in these videos is insane thank you
I remember watching Gibbs in the SANFL when all the talk was about him ... and thought, "He's handy ... but I'm not seeing what everyone else is seeing."
The only knock on Selwood was that he was - laughably - injury prone. Picking him was seen as a massive risk at the time.
My dad worked as one of the head junior development managers of the U18 National League from 2005-2010, so I remember this vividly when it happened.
He was touted as #1 from as early as 15, when he excelled at the 2003 State Championship Athletics Carnival, because he literally dominated on that day.
However, Wayne Hughes, Carlton's footy recruitment manager at the time, while never mentioned publicly, always told my dad behind the scenes he had massive concerns about Selwood's durability at AFL level, citing his playstyle "reckless" and saying that he would likely be riddled with injuries.
Coupled with a string of small soft-tissue injuries that hampered his underage year and into his draft year, he thought that it would be a wasted pick.
From about the start of 2006, Bryce Gibbs was the consensus number 1 pick. He was an ELITE U18 athlete, and had had meetings with Carlton from as early as December 2005 to my memory. For reference, a similarly damaging underage player in South Australia is emerging at the moment in Dyson Sharp, who is my early pick for the #1 in three years time after his accolades at the U15 carnival that just happened last month.
That being said, however, it was weird. Due to the rivalry between Scott Gumbleton and Lachlan Hansen at underage level as emerging key bigs, it was predicted that if Selwood didn't go at pick 1, which Carlton toyed with, then he could drop as low as pick 10, and the old man's own mock draft for that year had him going at pick 5, which was eventually used by Travis Boak.
All in all, I would blame Carlton's head of recruitment, because Wayne Hughes's own arrogance, and trust me, he had plenty of that, was the sole reason that Carlton didn't select Selwood, as he was touted as a pick 1
Thanks for the insight mate! Gibbs wasn’t a terrible pick I just think he didn’t live up to the potential he could’ve played in. I reckon it had a lot to do with the losing culture at Carlton during that time. But I would’ve loved to see Selwood in the navy blue!
Idk man, imo his leg speed is underrated. Kid was a champion hurdler(?) as a junior.
More than that, he was an all around elite junior athlete. He made the podium for all sprinting events at 2003 and 2004 State Athletics Championships.
Some promising careers bought up short by injuries in that list.
It’s so interesting that the reason Selwood wasn’t chosen higher in the draft became the reason why many of those before him had their careers cut short
Boak obviously the only one who comes close to Selwood
having shaun grigg in a carlton jumper is criminal 🤣
Travis Boak was born in Geelong and played for Geelong U18. He must have been spewing in 2007. It's too bad he could never get back there
Geelong poured a lot of effort into bringing him back to Geelong when Port were down in the dumps, but he stuck it out with Port and now he's one of their greatest ever players
I remember when I was like 13 thinking we had the better Selwood brothers in Adam and Scott
Still baffles be why how Essendon picks Gumbleton over Selwood, Boak and Riewoldt is baffling they didn’t have a plan B and went for the tall because they needed one Jack would’ve been way better!
Gibbs was done dirty in his final years as a AFL player let alone by the club that wanted him. Hardly played him and should have helped Adelaide climb back up the ladder in 2018 and 2019
He played all of 2018 in fact could have won the B&F, by time 2019 came around the club was ready for a rebuild and what an amazing job they have done since than with said rebuild.
Gibbs should have been a crow from day one, he would have been lights out based on his potential and unfortunately Carlton’s culture hurt his development
@@officialHbTcs not going to lie. Yes, Adelaide was headed for a rebuild in 2020 and we've (Adelaide is my club) done well since finishing last that year as each year we've won more games. We're headed in the right direction under Matthew Nicks and have a young list thats developed well, a majority of the grand final side were at other clubs by the time 2020 rolled around and were aging and had been in the AFL system for 10+ years by 2020
However, Adelaide still have Rory Sloane and Taylor Walker still playing on average a full season today after being there for nearly 15 years AND being only a year or 2 younger than Gibbs. Gibbs only played 15 games in his last 2 seasons as an AFL player. He was only 33 by the time he retired in 2020 which is the age both Rory Sloane and Taylor Walker are today. The fact I made was, that in 2017 Adelaide re-entered negotiations with Carlton to get Gibbs across to Adelaide as Gibbs wanted to come home to Adelaide and the Crows were keen on landing the trade which they did. They did him dirty by only playing him 12 times in 2019 to only 3 games in 2020. It doesn't make any sense as to why Adelaide even wanted Gibbs in the first place if they only played him a total of 18 times in his final 2 seasons as a Crow.
The only awards he needed was a Brownlow and a norm smith😊
OOOF imagine if Hawks picked Selwood they would've got infinity flags
Does Selwood also get the record for most head injuries.
How tf Gibbs get picked at pick 1😂
Cuz he has a good season before getting drafted and he was still pretty good in his csreer
He was clearly the #1 pick in that draft.
Was playing SANFL seniors as a 16/17 yo
@@Spotter_Loader I didn’t know that but I still think that he didn’t grow to the potential he could
@@VCS7083if only you could tell what a players future will be when u draft them
Unfortunately being at Carlton wouldn’t of helped him. Had he gone to a successful club where they could’ve gotten everything out of him, might’ve been seen in a better light
What about luke hodge
pretty sure he was apart of the 2001 draft and was selected at pick 1