Again for the comments since some pople still aren't understanding. *DISCLAIMER: Not saying that Lightfall will be bad, not even saying the Titan strande subclass will be bad, it could be VERY GOOD. This video is speaking on the CREATIVE aspect and ideas of the strand subclasses so far.*
The new titan super didnt pique my interest either. Like a lot of people are saying its a recolor of existing supers which means the other classes and other titans will be able to use existing knowledge to roll us without having to adapt overly much. same for PvE, these roaming, melee supers force you to be up close and personal with enemies while the abilities put you into vulnerable, easily exploitable animations that limit the functionality of said super. If this subclass is going to be used it needs to be fast and nimble with quick animations so we dont end up with another behemoth. The animation length on that subclass should be a crime if i have a say on it. What would be nice for the super instead is since our fists are coated in strand maybe a D1 version of striker where you slam once and done but its a huge wave effect doing large amounts of damage. would be useful for bosses and large rooms of adds thanks to the wide spread but still large damage.
OK, OK, we've heard you loud and clear. Coming in Final Shape. The brand-new Resonance element will be introduced, 'Ride the waves dangerously with this new darkness class which specializes in dealing damage rhythmically' Hunters surf upon waves of sound, kick-flipping across half-pipes formed from their appreciation of music and sound. Warlocks embrace the beat of the arcane forcing others to dance till they drop. Titans... here's a resonant stick... go hit things.
I think the machine gun strand super would better, the lore could be that you weave a gun and continue to form new bullets as you shoot, when shooting you have 15% speed, you have infinite bullets but when you dont shoot the super drains slower. an exotic could be you regain super energy for kills. if you have any other ideas please share.
I think they will wait until Lightfall comes out to see if people's opinions on the class change before making a proper statement on anything regarding this. But they are 100% aware of how people feel about Strand Titan at this point. The frustrating thing is they are trying to Simplify the Class Fantasy of Titan too just "Just Punch things" which is not what Titan is about. Warlocks are about Magic, minions etc, Hunters are Stealthy Assassins/Ninja, cowboys. For Titan Its about being the front-line guy who gets in enemies faces. That DOES NOT mean everything is punching. Void Titan for example is about getting in the front line and being the Protector, using your Bubbles and Shields, Solar is Throwing Hammers and Creating Fire and Arc is your Go Fast and knock em out class. They all have an Identity that fits the Titan Mould of "Be bold and get in their Face". This is why Strand is so underwhelming. We are not asking for strand to be busted or OP, but asking for Something new for the Titan Mould. Hunters get to be a Rope dart Ninja, Badass. Warlocks Get to Summon Minions, Awesome. This is Why is People arent looking forward to Strand titan, its a fantasy we already have in Arc. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
And Stasis. Once you get past the first “Oh cool Darkness subclass!” factor, then it’s just an icy striker.
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Caryon eaters big mad... 😆 You're absolutely spot on. It seems like Bungie is afraid to try something out of the box with Titans and play it safe as per usual.
When it comes to the 3.0 reworks, Bungie used specific describable words as to the playstyles they wanted the classes to have, except for the Titan. Using Solar as an example, they described the playstyle they wanted Warlocks to have with Archangel and Pyromancer and with that vision gave Warlocks enhanced Solar Grenades and the ability to fly higher and longer than any other class with Heat Rises. For Hunters, they used words like Gunslinger and Trickshot, and then gave Hunters Knock 'Em Down and Gunpowder Gamble to achieve that playstyle. They didn't give Titans any describable words like that. Just 'burn the world' and "big damage'. The Titan identiy of, Melee Enemy, hasn't changed or been developed or enhanced at all throughout the different Titan Subclasses and its annoying. There are only so many different ways to reiterate, Melee Enemy, before it starts feeling insulting and profoundly lazy.
Something I would personally like to see is a powerful ranged one off super hell lets just trade strand supers with the locks and boom both of us are happy
@@PocketTuna If they want to keep our identity punch with a one off ranged super just let us charge a giant flying fist of that element I wouldnt even mind something like that tbh.
It's for this exact reason I'm glad I'm a hunter main. And I'm not talking about the PVP thing I could care less about PVP as a whole I'm talking about the fact that Titans just keep getting screwed over. This hurts me to my core cuz I used to be a Titan mane and destiny 1 and wanted to continue being one in destiny 2 but they seem to be against that.
Strand was supposed to be will and consciousness. I was hoping that that Titan would “force their will” by way of a Vader like force crush single shot Super. It could be bringing together a Tangles then exploding.
The only moment I will use strand on my Titan over void is IF story missions will force me to do it and to test it and that's all. I was barely using stasis, hell I still didn't unlock aspects and fragments for stasis because I found stasis boring on Titan. Like yeah, cool, I can freeze stuff but super is basicly ice flavor of fists of havoc. I would love to get some super that would help me tank more or straight up support/buff myself and allies or weaken enemies or even both. Like using strand to create banner, throw it into ground, wrap enemies in strand and killing them would give overshield or heal or weapon dmg buff. And yes, it would be basicly rip off of Warlock's Well but still would be better than getting fists of havoc 3.0 and Hunter is getting strand version of Titan's meteor strike. Bungie see Titans as just "he he fists go boom" instead of protectors that should be first and last line of defense, soldiers fighting in first line and leaders boosting morale of companions and being glue that stick fireteams together.
Here's the thought process on Titans. They need to be tanks: okay, here's woven mail giving 50% DR They need to be supports: okay, have them give that buff to teammates too They need to be able to melee: okay, give them 3 of them and have it so while woven mail is active they get increased CDR They need add control: okay, have their barricade shoot out a wave of strand to weave enemies in place. There we do, a more aggressive and offensive Void subclass. We'll even reskin the Sentinel Shield super. Shouldn't we do something unique like the other classes? Nah, we just barely figured out how to make a barricade more useful lets not over do it now.
I was really hoping the titan would’ve gotten a ranged super. After seeing the initial release, they reminded me of the blades of chaos that combat design would’ve worked well with this but it would class with the hunter’s super. Not sure how the hunter could be redesigned to give the titan some range.
you forget that big hammer solar titan is basically the same as striker and lil hammer bro is striker with a bit of range, but still ineffective unless your close range due to the amount of movement in the game titan have two " unique " supers in ThunderCrash and Bubble but both have significant drawbacks thundercrash puts you in line of fire and is worthless without falling star and bubble is outclassed by Warlock Well in terms of can't shoot through it and it drops if said Titan dies, hell Citan's allowed us to actually act as a tank (like we are supposed to be) but yet those got overly nerfed. Now yet again we Titan mains get jackshit, worthless class in most aspects of the game....
My brother in light I addressed that several times 🙂 If there's some new crazy stuff yet to be shown, why would they start with showing the same stuff we already have lol
I'm a hunter main, but I feel for those titans. The exotic is literally if kephris and dead messenger fused. Bungie has said there's at least one other exotic for each class, but we'll see when it drops
@@PocketTuna yeah, I think the trend is that for each darkness subclass one class gets the one and done super, hunter stasis, warlock strand. So titans probably will next time. However, come on, is it that hard to think of something cool for titans? Even just give them a super where they have a huge club that they charge at people with, just obliterating anything with a single swing. Not that hard to think of.
All I play is Titan and I am with you. It's just becoming so lazy on Bungies part. The sheer lack of creativity is astounding for a new expansion when it comes to Titan. I have zero hype for strand.
Ok ima be honest here. We all got a reskinned super. Also when u said hunters get the most op exotics, id say against that. Ive played as all classes this season and tbh, the only thing going for hunters rn is their dodge and the fact they can jump. All their exotics are pretty pointless tbh. Titans on the other hand, theyre so op that this season is mostly a titan meta. Everything they have is op
I actually have a video coming out about that also. How Hunters tend to have the “weaker” exotics because their class is inherently stronger and why Titans seem to have the most busted exotics at random times because our abilities are generally “weaker.” The scaling is off.
Titans always seem to get the short end of the stick. Really the only "new" thing given was Thruster and even then. No New subclass (Bubble is very old Sentinel Shield can get dull) unlike how Hunters got a new Arc one with 3.0. Warlocks have Well so not touching that. What did Titans get with Forsaken? Bigger shield. Nothing special about it and no one even blocks with it. Strand better be fucking good to justify being ANOTHER melee focused super but it's really becoming irritating having the punch be our defining trait. Has no meaning thanks to Arc Hunters existing with their Aspects being melee focused. Sorry for the rant. Since that first trailer, just grown more annoyed with Bungies choices for the single class. We get something great and powerful and it gets nerfed. Hunters have something powerful and it 9/10 doesn't get nerfed anywhere near as heavily most of the time. Can't remember a heavy nerf to the class in general.
Dont apologize for ranting I 100% agree shit sucks. I haven't spoken about it directly but the existence of arc strider was like a real WTF moment for me when I first played it. Why in the hell is disorienting blow a Hunter ability???? lmao actually insane. Titan Strand better be stupidly good.
This is just a bad take. Yes, Hunters got a new super. Why? Because Arc Hunter only had 1 super! Titans not only have the ability to dodge now, but a new one punch man style punch. What did Hunters get? We got one of our melees changed into an aspect, just like what happened with void. It gets even worse with void though, because hunters went from 3 melees to 1, and every single aspect is just a way to go invisible. There's no ability regen, no situational stat bonuses, no other subclass verbs other than weaken and invisibility. Titans got a whole new shield to throw, which feels great, as well as kept most of their abilities. And I'm not saying this to be like "oh you're so dumb, bla bla bla." No, I'm saying this as a Hunter main since the Alpha who has been considering switching fully to the Titan class because Hunters keep getting kicked. But because the kicks aren't huge people complain about Hunters when they complain. A thousand subtle nerfs is far worse than one huge one because it is slow enough that people don't think about it. I agree with the video that the Hunter exotic will get nerfed because of PvP, so when I saw the reveal trailer all I could think is "oh cool, so we don't get an exotic" because it will become useless really quickly. I would take a bombardier clone any day over an exotic that will soon be as useless as oathkeepers.
@@corymccarty3921 The melee changes for Hunter were honestly bad I agree with you there. The one punch man melee for Titan is situational and only used for fun and the throwable shield is awful lol shurikens and throwing knives have way more tracking.
@@PocketTuna ha, the shield pretty much has the same tracking now. I wish both were better tbh. In PvP the thinder smash is not amazing, but it is great in PvE
Listen i dont wanna sound like the people who go on twitter saying bungie hates their class only because lets be honest bungie probably hates us all hut they really havent been trying at all with titan with recent subclasses
Is it just me, or does the new hunter exotic seem more like something a Titan should have? I’ve been noticing that Bungie has slowly been taking away the tank identity from Titans and giving it to Hunters…
I thought so at first too but then I thought about its use. It’s pretty much going to make sniping hunters Godly in the crucible. That’s my prediction atleast, will circle back to this later lol
As a multiclasser, I hate that Titans have been getting shafted in the creativity department. “Oh but Titans are gonna be a menace in the Crucible again 🤡“ I’d rather the subclasses seem unique than be OP or anything.
at the very least if not a different kind of super, we at least need a third super for one of our subclasses. Both hunter and warlock have 3 super on at least one of theirs (solar & void hunter, void warlock) but titans only have 2 all around
Titans seriously need a fucking buff, like a second Stasis super so where it's actually viable and not just a "fuck every red bar in this direction", because you got me fucking twisted if you think I'm gonna use Behemoth SPECIFICALLY for add clear over something like the Solar Titan's Throwinf Hammer super +the fragments that makes shit go fucking kaboom on kills. You can clear the goddamn PLANET of adds with that super, no matter how deep in endgame you are. So, Stasis Titan is basically useless, outside of very mid Stasis grenade builds, and of course everything else have hardly any chance in pace aside a few minor things. Jesus, it feels like we've been forgotten. Stasis for Warlock and Hunter is S tier in pretty much everything, Warlock has hands down the best super in the game- and Hunter can have S tier builds with literally any and all of his Subclasses. Behemoth sucks major ass in all cases, except for fighting enemy supers which is actually super fun ironically enough. I feel like Bungie treats Titans and nothing but dumb monkeys, I mean sure yea the meme exist and they ARE funny- but come on man, give us Titans a fuckin Starfire Protocol like build with our Grenades. Let us have a viable build that doesn't revolve around spamming infinite melees with buffs that let uncharged melees act as false charged melees. Like for example: Get a kill with throwing hammer, get a single stack of roaring flames. Use a default melee attack on a Dreg and BOOM- you got another sunspot and some solar wells because now your default melee can procs things that usually only your charged melee could. Don't get me wrong, throwing hammer Titan with stacking buffs N' heals is fucking overpowered and brainless and shit and will always be Titan's most reliable source of survivability and even Damage in pretty much every case except for some shit like raid bosses. 3x roaring flames and Synthos- I don't even need to explain, just with all that with spamming mini hammer and whatever means to stun a champion... thats it, it's literally over. You won't even need to out in Synthos, use mini hammer spam with HOIL with a melee wellmaker and several well of ordinance mods and boom- practically infinite healing nades ontop of being nearly immortal from basically everything else Solar Titan has I'm rambling on to much- my whole point is that Bungie does give us Titans REALLY strong builds, but never is anything actually truly viable come out the spectrum of your melee being utterly and completely Vital to it
Please actually tell me a single interesting stasis build on hunter that is viable on endgame PvE. I've been trying to make one for so long that I've reached a point were running in a wall with frostees for my grenade to reload is the most enjoyable thing out of everything cause almost everything else is way way worse. Renewals got butchered, a cwl shards build with triple firepower quite literally brings that nade back in almost half a min, that's on a build specifically and fully dedicated on that grenade uptime. Include a demo weapon and that can drop down max ~10 seconds. At the same time I have my best friend as a warlock literally yeet a stasis turret after another. Please for the love of God I'm begging you to tell me a single actually interesting stasis endgame PvE build for hunters.
@@blieublieu Honestly can't think of a Stasis hunter build for PvE. Revenant is obviously really damn good in PvP- but it's undeniable that their short changed in PvE I shoulda thought of that when when writing my OG comment
I really like the idea of the darkness powers basically preventing enemies from moving . Strand looks so amazing and can’t wait to experiment with exotics with my titan . If it’s heavily melee focused then I’ll definitely continue using my wormgods and synthoceps but we will see !
Truth to the video man gj.. I’m a titan main and after seeing what they did to titan I’m debating playing lightfall looks lame,boring and uncreative it sucks because I’m not mad I’m just disappointed and there’s so much potential with titan and it’s just same, same every time, credit where it’s do tho warlock and hunter look fire just wish titan would get the smallest love/ passion where’s the riot shields, portable or moveable barricades, covering yourself in defence spikes, auras or battlecries, c4 and rail guns these are the. tools and kits the titan needs to feel fresh not like another reskin!
@@PocketTuna i dont think they did, but my boyfriend says that it might have been because of legal trouble because resident evil has an enemy type called the tyrant which seems to be similar to the titan strand super.
honestly i like your video and agree with alot of what you said, but it makes no sense to make a title like this, but it makes it sounds like there is something really wrong with titans going into lightfall other than strand itself
I respect that opinion I really do. If it were up to me this wouldn’t be the title, however the only reason you are here is because of the title. Look at how many subs I have. Not even 500 but my videos get quadruple the amount of views. The TH-cam algorithm forces creators to click bait. Especially smaller creators. It’s insanely oppressive and difficult. Once I get a solid amount of subs I will never have to make a title like this again. I’m sorry, I just cross my fingers and hope the content of the video is enough to make people forget about it
Personally Im so fuckin confused why they havent had the idea of giving titans the equivalent of Dead Hard from Dbd. Literally pop the ability, gives you massive damage resist, enough to make you take two shotty shots till you die, for however many seconds. And just give it a bit of a longer cool down. Shit at least there would be better gameplay interactions rather than just, pop shield, take cover and heal, and repeat.
Edit: Super should have been something out of Green Lantern for titan. Warlock shouldve been given an EMP blast that globally shuts down light class supers and abilities for a couple seconds, or cuts all light class damage in half, except darkness classes. Hunters, even though its not their niche, shouldve gotten a support super. Buffs the teams health and damage resistence globally, while also leaving them off the radar for crucible.
@@PocketTuna I always thought Titan shoulve been more than what they are right now. Its just surprising to me that theres so many games that Bungie can take inspiration from but I havent seen a lot of uniqueness for a bit.
@@PocketTuna I never mained Titan also. Warlock in D1 and Hunter now in D2. Only touched Titan in D1 when we needed one for a raid, now I rarely touch Titan because I only ever play by myself and main hunter, so no need for me to switch.
Maybe titan will have something cool with later natures for syrand subclasses, like beyond light titans got an ice spear... hope to see something like that with future natures and aspects.
As a Warlock main, all of the classes have bad exotics and abilities. Warlock supers and abilities just suck as a whole. Hunters are the only ones having fun rn.
hate to say this to ya cheif but shotguns are king tho sniping is indeed something that's a pain to get hit with its better then being shotgun aped by a rushing titan shotgun then one punch o-0 where sniping requires you to hit the head also the body is covered in woven mail however that is not the case for heads so you should just aim at the head cheif and you will be ok as for flitch don't even get me started how bad flinch is on sniper redical says good bye to screen and u are screwed sometimes u can get lucky on a good day but from what i see all is nothing but shotgun apes running around slide shotgun or grenade launcher that and sniping in 6v6 is like trying to get your hands unfrozen on a cold ass day. now as for your statement about supers i mean your a titan your all about being in there you got a shield a hammer and yes a fist there is a thunder crash this is another roaming super but with blades duel blades i can see why it would annoy you however isn't the titans class all about close range ? hell your even going to have way more faster mobility AND three melees as a base so how on earth are u not happy about it ? this has been something titans have been wanting something similar to the Twilight Garrison your getting that hell u even taken dodge ability that normally hunters have cause it is part of there identity witch is agility i don't know what you guys want at this point you want a well as well ? now about the ability thing yes i agree somewhat about the khepherys horn well lets see if we left them to where they where last time then they would be extremally broken then if the exotics makes it to where it has a bigger and wider range i think that is something that needs to be taken into account but that probably is not in your book because again no one has played strand yet but from what the verbs of the new class it seems this exotic is going to be really nice and really good but its also built into a ability's or the class its self witch is a W like you said however in all honesty it probably dose not change your mind witch is fine. p.s if your wondering why im writing a full on paragraph its cause i just felt like it
Little bit late to the vid but fuck yea im a titan of nearly 10 years and even after seeing more trailers.. im some what disapointed with another mele super.. iv honestly for the first time started to question bungies "creativness" with titans .. shit or not ill still use it maybe thats a bad thing but i will not go and switch characters especially those fucking hunters.. anyone else see that throwing knife the hunters have that has fucking tracking.. rip titans and warlocks in pvp, glad i quit that shit years ago
I find it funny that the Titan's canonical lack of creativity is specifically the reason why they resort to punching things with new and unknown powers. Zavala gets mad, he punches a table. Titan guardians pick up stasis, 'punch!' Titans discover strand, "Ha, ha knife hands!"
I don't bother myself with such difficulties...I can create a destructive build with anything and make it very fun. So I don't think that titan will be boring. He has 3 melees that reduce enemies' damage and grow in strength with using them. Super can buff itself either so it will be good at least for cleaning and maybe for boss damage if bungie overbuff it's damage. With new "khepri's" barricade he theoretically will be able to stun an entire room of mobs with a single button and slice throught them after. And he'll get a lot of resists and enemy's damage reduction to survive no problem. By the way striker titan is a piece of shit now. He has nothing except his three times nerfed grenades with heart of inmost light. Both of his supers are demon crap. It's the most boring and non-different subclass ever created. What about other 2 classes...there is no much difference either: hunter being all-mobility-and-control-focused with another bullshitdive ability (and I think the most useless super amongst all 3...maybe it will have some play in pvp), warlock has a bastard child of blade barrage and cataclysm nova. The only creative thing that bungie added is grapple hook and even this is one of the most popular things in the game industry.
Again for the comments since some pople still aren't understanding. *DISCLAIMER: Not saying that Lightfall will be bad, not even saying the Titan strande subclass will be bad, it could be VERY GOOD. This video is speaking on the CREATIVE aspect and ideas of the strand subclasses so far.*
Why can't we just get a a sword blasting slash or slashes for a Titan Super?
@@willpackson5 that's what I'm saying!!
@@willpackson5 A spear would be dope. Cuz its tip is sharp and can sever enemies. The verb associated with Titans.
So... Lightfall came on really bad. Like Mercury.
as a titan main, I’m really excited for the warlock strand subclass
LOL sounds about right
The new titan super didnt pique my interest either. Like a lot of people are saying its a recolor of existing supers which means the other classes and other titans will be able to use existing knowledge to roll us without having to adapt overly much. same for PvE, these roaming, melee supers force you to be up close and personal with enemies while the abilities put you into vulnerable, easily exploitable animations that limit the functionality of said super. If this subclass is going to be used it needs to be fast and nimble with quick animations so we dont end up with another behemoth. The animation length on that subclass should be a crime if i have a say on it. What would be nice for the super instead is since our fists are coated in strand maybe a D1 version of striker where you slam once and done but its a huge wave effect doing large amounts of damage. would be useful for bosses and large rooms of adds thanks to the wide spread but still large damage.
A one and done strand fist of havoc actually does sound really dope lol
OK, OK, we've heard you loud and clear. Coming in Final Shape. The brand-new Resonance element will be introduced, 'Ride the waves dangerously with this new darkness class which specializes in dealing damage rhythmically' Hunters surf upon waves of sound, kick-flipping across half-pipes formed from their appreciation of music and sound. Warlocks embrace the beat of the arcane forcing others to dance till they drop. Titans... here's a resonant stick... go hit things.
lmaooooo PERFECT.
oh like drum
This aged like milk :P
@@YourAverageLucario XD Yeah, but it was creative.
I think the machine gun strand super would better, the lore could be that you weave a gun and continue to form new bullets as you shoot, when shooting you have 15% speed, you have infinite bullets but when you dont shoot the super drains slower. an exotic could be you regain super energy for kills. if you have any other ideas please share.
ooooOOOOOOO That's fucking amazing! lol
I think they will wait until Lightfall comes out to see if people's opinions on the class change before making a proper statement on anything regarding this. But they are 100% aware of how people feel about Strand Titan at this point. The frustrating thing is they are trying to Simplify the Class Fantasy of Titan too just "Just Punch things" which is not what Titan is about. Warlocks are about Magic, minions etc, Hunters are Stealthy Assassins/Ninja, cowboys. For Titan Its about being the front-line guy who gets in enemies faces. That DOES NOT mean everything is punching. Void Titan for example is about getting in the front line and being the Protector, using your Bubbles and Shields, Solar is Throwing Hammers and Creating Fire and Arc is your Go Fast and knock em out class. They all have an Identity that fits the Titan Mould of "Be bold and get in their Face". This is why Strand is so underwhelming. We are not asking for strand to be busted or OP, but asking for Something new for the Titan Mould. Hunters get to be a Rope dart Ninja, Badass. Warlocks Get to Summon Minions, Awesome. This is Why is People arent looking forward to Strand titan, its a fantasy we already have in Arc.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Brilliamt TED talk, I would attend a second time :-)
And Stasis. Once you get past the first “Oh cool Darkness subclass!” factor, then it’s just an icy striker.
Caryon eaters big mad... 😆
You're absolutely spot on. It seems like Bungie is afraid to try something out of the box with Titans and play it safe as per usual.
WAAYYYYYYYYY too safe it's weird lol
When it comes to the 3.0 reworks, Bungie used specific describable words as to the playstyles they wanted the classes to have, except for the Titan. Using Solar as an example, they described the playstyle they wanted Warlocks to have with Archangel and Pyromancer and with that vision gave Warlocks enhanced Solar Grenades and the ability to fly higher and longer than any other class with Heat Rises. For Hunters, they used words like Gunslinger and Trickshot, and then gave Hunters Knock 'Em Down and Gunpowder Gamble to achieve that playstyle. They didn't give Titans any describable words like that. Just 'burn the world' and "big damage'. The Titan identiy of, Melee Enemy, hasn't changed or been developed or enhanced at all throughout the different Titan Subclasses and its annoying. There are only so many different ways to reiterate, Melee Enemy, before it starts feeling insulting and profoundly lazy.
@@CephalonAxii I made a whole video about that. SPOT ON
Titans in lore: honorable soldiers who go on the front lines to protect allies
Titans in gameplay: punchy punch
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Something I would personally like to see is a powerful ranged one off super hell lets just trade strand supers with the locks and boom both of us are happy
Duuuuude imagine throwing a giant javelin across the map!! One and done omg so bad ass!!! Never even thought about that
@@PocketTuna Arc hunters laughing rn
@@PocketTuna If they want to keep our identity punch with a one off ranged super just let us charge a giant flying fist of that element I wouldnt even mind something like that tbh.
It's for this exact reason I'm glad I'm a hunter main. And I'm not talking about the PVP thing I could care less about PVP as a whole I'm talking about the fact that Titans just keep getting screwed over. This hurts me to my core cuz I used to be a Titan mane and destiny 1 and wanted to continue being one in destiny 2 but they seem to be against that.
It always hurts to lose a fellow titan but I understand
Strand was supposed to be will and consciousness. I was hoping that that Titan would “force their will” by way of a Vader like force crush single shot Super. It could be bringing together a Tangles then exploding.
Duuuuuuuuuude, that sounds amazing lol
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I'm so fucking upset beyond belief.
tell me about it lol
The only moment I will use strand on my Titan over void is IF story missions will force me to do it and to test it and that's all. I was barely using stasis, hell I still didn't unlock aspects and fragments for stasis because I found stasis boring on Titan. Like yeah, cool, I can freeze stuff but super is basicly ice flavor of fists of havoc.
I would love to get some super that would help me tank more or straight up support/buff myself and allies or weaken enemies or even both. Like using strand to create banner, throw it into ground, wrap enemies in strand and killing them would give overshield or heal or weapon dmg buff. And yes, it would be basicly rip off of Warlock's Well but still would be better than getting fists of havoc 3.0 and Hunter is getting strand version of Titan's meteor strike.
Bungie see Titans as just "he he fists go boom" instead of protectors that should be first and last line of defense, soldiers fighting in first line and leaders boosting morale of companions and being glue that stick fireteams together.
Played stasis maybe 4 times since beyond light lol
Here's the thought process on Titans.
They need to be tanks: okay, here's woven mail giving 50% DR
They need to be supports: okay, have them give that buff to teammates too
They need to be able to melee: okay, give them 3 of them and have it so while woven mail is active they get increased CDR
They need add control: okay, have their barricade shoot out a wave of strand to weave enemies in place.
There we do, a more aggressive and offensive Void subclass. We'll even reskin the Sentinel Shield super.
Shouldn't we do something unique like the other classes?
Nah, we just barely figured out how to make a barricade more useful lets not over do it now.
lololol PERFECT
I was really hoping the titan would’ve gotten a ranged super. After seeing the initial release, they reminded me of the blades of chaos that combat design would’ve worked well with this but it would class with the hunter’s super. Not sure how the hunter could be redesigned to give the titan some range.
A throwable javelin sounds amazing to me that's the first thing that comes to mind but BEHOLD they gave that to hunters too lmao
@@PocketTuna hunters are the Munk class so... Give the sword to warlocks
Titan mains malding about everything rn
*Cries in Crayola*
@@PocketTuna says they're the crayon eating punchy boys, become the crayon eating punch boys, cries.
@@masonwillms2542never really said we were, its literally the stereotype because of the shit were given.
you forget that big hammer solar titan is basically the same as striker and lil hammer bro is striker with a bit of range, but still ineffective unless your close range due to the amount of movement in the game titan have two " unique " supers in ThunderCrash and Bubble but both have significant drawbacks thundercrash puts you in line of fire and is worthless without falling star and bubble is outclassed by Warlock Well in terms of can't shoot through it and it drops if said Titan dies, hell Citan's allowed us to actually act as a tank (like we are supposed to be) but yet those got overly nerfed. Now yet again we Titan mains get jackshit, worthless class in most aspects of the game....
It hurts to see it treated like this man :-(
My brother in light, the Strand subclass trailer hasn’t even come out yet. Chill.
My brother in light I addressed that several times 🙂 If there's some new crazy stuff yet to be shown, why would they start with showing the same stuff we already have lol
@@PocketTuna my brother in light is is our third nova with a different colour, we have 2 novas
What’s the third one? Oh chaos reach?
@@PocketTuna lol might wanna get informed before making these vids
@@heartywhiteowl4938 Where was I misinformed in this video? or are you being an ass for no reason?
I'm a hunter main, but I feel for those titans. The exotic is literally if kephris and dead messenger fused. Bungie has said there's at least one other exotic for each class, but we'll see when it drops
Hopefully it’s much MUCH cooler than what we’ve seen so far lol
@@PocketTuna yeah, I think the trend is that for each darkness subclass one class gets the one and done super, hunter stasis, warlock strand. So titans probably will next time. However, come on, is it that hard to think of something cool for titans? Even just give them a super where they have a huge club that they charge at people with, just obliterating anything with a single swing. Not that hard to think of.
I think it might actually be good because the three strand waves seek aggressively, which could prove to be pretty good, or not but who knows 💀😂
@@machiyukirei2812 Agreed lol
@@rwboilol5696 Hope so
All I play is Titan and I am with you. It's just becoming so lazy on Bungies part. The sheer lack of creativity is astounding for a new expansion when it comes to Titan. I have zero hype for strand.
Yep! It’s very unfortunate
Ok ima be honest here. We all got a reskinned super. Also when u said hunters get the most op exotics, id say against that. Ive played as all classes this season and tbh, the only thing going for hunters rn is their dodge and the fact they can jump. All their exotics are pretty pointless tbh. Titans on the other hand, theyre so op that this season is mostly a titan meta. Everything they have is op
Not being a dick but did I actually say that? I don’t think I did, if I did I misspoke because I don’t even believe that lol
I actually have a video coming out about that also. How Hunters tend to have the “weaker” exotics because their class is inherently stronger and why Titans seem to have the most busted exotics at random times because our abilities are generally “weaker.” The scaling is off.
gyrfalcons?
@@The_Makr_ There are always outliers
who tf thinks making a defensive ability a part of a beserker subclass is a good idea
Titans always seem to get the short end of the stick. Really the only "new" thing given was Thruster and even then. No New subclass (Bubble is very old Sentinel Shield can get dull) unlike how Hunters got a new Arc one with 3.0. Warlocks have Well so not touching that. What did Titans get with Forsaken? Bigger shield. Nothing special about it and no one even blocks with it. Strand better be fucking good to justify being ANOTHER melee focused super but it's really becoming irritating having the punch be our defining trait. Has no meaning thanks to Arc Hunters existing with their Aspects being melee focused.
Sorry for the rant. Since that first trailer, just grown more annoyed with Bungies choices for the single class. We get something great and powerful and it gets nerfed. Hunters have something powerful and it 9/10 doesn't get nerfed anywhere near as heavily most of the time. Can't remember a heavy nerf to the class in general.
Dont apologize for ranting I 100% agree shit sucks. I haven't spoken about it directly but the existence of arc strider was like a real WTF moment for me when I first played it. Why in the hell is disorienting blow a Hunter ability???? lmao actually insane. Titan Strand better be stupidly good.
This is just a bad take. Yes, Hunters got a new super. Why? Because Arc Hunter only had 1 super! Titans not only have the ability to dodge now, but a new one punch man style punch. What did Hunters get? We got one of our melees changed into an aspect, just like what happened with void. It gets even worse with void though, because hunters went from 3 melees to 1, and every single aspect is just a way to go invisible. There's no ability regen, no situational stat bonuses, no other subclass verbs other than weaken and invisibility. Titans got a whole new shield to throw, which feels great, as well as kept most of their abilities.
And I'm not saying this to be like "oh you're so dumb, bla bla bla." No, I'm saying this as a Hunter main since the Alpha who has been considering switching fully to the Titan class because Hunters keep getting kicked. But because the kicks aren't huge people complain about Hunters when they complain. A thousand subtle nerfs is far worse than one huge one because it is slow enough that people don't think about it.
I agree with the video that the Hunter exotic will get nerfed because of PvP, so when I saw the reveal trailer all I could think is "oh cool, so we don't get an exotic" because it will become useless really quickly. I would take a bombardier clone any day over an exotic that will soon be as useless as oathkeepers.
@@corymccarty3921 The melee changes for Hunter were honestly bad I agree with you there. The one punch man melee for Titan is situational and only used for fun and the throwable shield is awful lol shurikens and throwing knives have way more tracking.
@@PocketTuna ha, the shield pretty much has the same tracking now. I wish both were better tbh. In PvP the thinder smash is not amazing, but it is great in PvE
Titans got Thundercrash during Forsaken which is one of the most effective/creative supers in the game, quit cherry-picking lol.
Listen i dont wanna sound like the people who go on twitter saying bungie hates their class only because lets be honest bungie probably hates us all hut they really havent been trying at all with titan with recent subclasses
Yeahhhhhhhh...Don't want to be known as that guy either but someone has to say it
mans really hates Khepri's lol
Lmao to be fair I really dislike all exotics that are useless
You know even in beyond light remember what titans get with stasis? Another fucking roaming super smh
I’m getting sick of it lol roaming supers suck in harder content
Seeing as im a hunter main your last bit made me feel devious
I bet it did lol because I’m jealous I hate all of you :-) lmao
Is it just me, or does the new hunter exotic seem more like something a Titan should have? I’ve been noticing that Bungie has slowly been taking away the tank identity from Titans and giving it to Hunters…
I thought so at first too but then I thought about its use. It’s pretty much going to make sniping hunters Godly in the crucible. That’s my prediction atleast, will circle back to this later lol
As a multiclasser, I hate that Titans have been getting shafted in the creativity department. “Oh but Titans are gonna be a menace in the Crucible again 🤡“ I’d rather the subclasses seem unique than be OP or anything.
at the very least if not a different kind of super, we at least need a third super for one of our subclasses. Both hunter and warlock have 3 super on at least one of theirs (solar & void hunter, void warlock) but titans only have 2 all around
Didn't notice this, you're so right!
id probably just use Lorely or Heart of inmost light anyways lmao.
Facts lmao a true man of culture here
@@PocketTuna Our lack of viable exotics is whole nother video my guy.
Titans seriously need a fucking buff, like a second Stasis super so where it's actually viable and not just a "fuck every red bar in this direction", because you got me fucking twisted if you think I'm gonna use Behemoth SPECIFICALLY for add clear over something like the Solar Titan's Throwinf Hammer super +the fragments that makes shit go fucking kaboom on kills. You can clear the goddamn PLANET of adds with that super, no matter how deep in endgame you are. So, Stasis Titan is basically useless, outside of very mid Stasis grenade builds, and of course everything else have hardly any chance in pace aside a few minor things.
Jesus, it feels like we've been forgotten. Stasis for Warlock and Hunter is S tier in pretty much everything, Warlock has hands down the best super in the game- and Hunter can have S tier builds with literally any and all of his Subclasses. Behemoth sucks major ass in all cases, except for fighting enemy supers which is actually super fun ironically enough. I feel like Bungie treats Titans and nothing but dumb monkeys, I mean sure yea the meme exist and they ARE funny- but come on man, give us Titans a fuckin Starfire Protocol like build with our Grenades. Let us have a viable build that doesn't revolve around spamming infinite melees with buffs that let uncharged melees act as false charged melees.
Like for example: Get a kill with throwing hammer, get a single stack of roaring flames. Use a default melee attack on a Dreg and BOOM- you got another sunspot and some solar wells because now your default melee can procs things that usually only your charged melee could.
Don't get me wrong, throwing hammer Titan with stacking buffs N' heals is fucking overpowered and brainless and shit and will always be Titan's most reliable source of survivability and even Damage in pretty much every case except for some shit like raid bosses. 3x roaring flames and Synthos- I don't even need to explain, just with all that with spamming mini hammer and whatever means to stun a champion... thats it, it's literally over. You won't even need to out in Synthos, use mini hammer spam with HOIL with a melee wellmaker and several well of ordinance mods and boom-
practically infinite healing nades ontop of being nearly immortal from basically everything else Solar Titan has
I'm rambling on to much- my whole point is that Bungie does give us Titans REALLY strong builds, but never is anything actually truly viable come out the spectrum of your melee being utterly and completely Vital to it
Agreed if they’re gonna lean into titans can only melee they need to atleast make the melees interesting and super viable, Currently they’re not.
Please actually tell me a single interesting stasis build on hunter that is viable on endgame PvE.
I've been trying to make one for so long that I've reached a point were running in a wall with frostees for my grenade to reload is the most enjoyable thing out of everything cause almost everything else is way way worse.
Renewals got butchered, a cwl shards build with triple firepower quite literally brings that nade back in almost half a min, that's on a build specifically and fully dedicated on that grenade uptime. Include a demo weapon and that can drop down max ~10 seconds.
At the same time I have my best friend as a warlock literally yeet a stasis turret after another.
Please for the love of God I'm begging you to tell me a single actually interesting stasis endgame PvE build for hunters.
@@blieublieu Honestly can't think of a Stasis hunter build for PvE. Revenant is obviously really damn good in PvP- but it's undeniable that their short changed in PvE
I shoulda thought of that when when writing my OG comment
Wish Strand was more like Diamond lance but constant throwing javelins instead melee based abilities
Yessss something to spice it up
@@PocketTuna Wish that Titans were more like Heavy from TF2 instead of Winston from OW
Can we finally have a titan super for damaging bosses?
Cuz, you know, Superman is good, but it,s 4 years old.
Need something newwwwww
Average titan main complaining about hunters and bungie
Hunters hurt my feelings
I really like the idea of the darkness powers basically preventing enemies from moving . Strand looks so amazing and can’t wait to experiment with exotics with my titan . If it’s heavily melee focused then I’ll definitely continue using my wormgods and synthoceps but we will see !
Same, very unique
YOU CAN DO A SPIN WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?!
My favorite form of attack. Ballerina moves!!!!
@@PocketTuna BladeDancer is back baby
what i would like to see for titan is a throable AOE super warlock have nova huter have a gathering Storm but we dont have shit
Yeahhhh
arc souls are great but sometimes i feel they take up half the damn screen
Yeah that’s true sometimes
Truth to the video man gj.. I’m a titan main and after seeing what they did to titan I’m debating playing lightfall looks lame,boring and uncreative it sucks because I’m not mad I’m just disappointed and there’s so much potential with titan and it’s just same, same every time, credit where it’s do tho warlock and hunter look fire just wish titan would get the smallest love/ passion where’s the riot shields, portable or moveable barricades, covering yourself in defence spikes, auras or battlecries, c4 and rail guns these are the. tools and kits the titan needs to feel fresh not like another reskin!
Agreed, they could do everything but instead they choose to do nothing.
My only gripe is that they changed the name of it from tyrant to berserker.
Did they ever explain why?
@@PocketTuna i dont think they did, but my boyfriend says that it might have been because of legal trouble because resident evil has an enemy type called the tyrant which seems to be similar to the titan strand super.
honestly i like your video and agree with alot of what you said, but it makes no sense to make a title like this, but it makes it sounds like there is something really wrong with titans going into lightfall other than strand itself
I respect that opinion I really do. If it were up to me this wouldn’t be the title, however the only reason you are here is because of the title. Look at how many subs I have. Not even 500 but my videos get quadruple the amount of views. The TH-cam algorithm forces creators to click bait. Especially smaller creators. It’s insanely oppressive and difficult. Once I get a solid amount of subs I will never have to make a title like this again. I’m sorry, I just cross my fingers and hope the content of the video is enough to make people forget about it
Personally Im so fuckin confused why they havent had the idea of giving titans the equivalent of Dead Hard from Dbd. Literally pop the ability, gives you massive damage resist, enough to make you take two shotty shots till you die, for however many seconds. And just give it a bit of a longer cool down.
Shit at least there would be better gameplay interactions rather than just, pop shield, take cover and heal, and repeat.
Edit: Super should have been something out of Green Lantern for titan.
Warlock shouldve been given an EMP blast that globally shuts down light class supers and abilities for a couple seconds, or cuts all light class damage in half, except darkness classes.
Hunters, even though its not their niche, shouldve gotten a support super. Buffs the teams health and damage resistence globally, while also leaving them off the radar for crucible.
@@SirSkorch Rader manipulation is void hunters thing
Don’t know if you played D1 but I’ve always been hoping for a Radiance counterpart for the Titan class
@@PocketTuna I always thought Titan shoulve been more than what they are right now. Its just surprising to me that theres so many games that Bungie can take inspiration from but I havent seen a lot of uniqueness for a bit.
@@PocketTuna I never mained Titan also. Warlock in D1 and Hunter now in D2. Only touched Titan in D1 when we needed one for a raid, now I rarely touch Titan because I only ever play by myself and main hunter, so no need for me to switch.
Video aged like milk
How so? Titan is the least used class in the final shape currently lol
nah bro this aged like wine right out of calus pools
Maybe titan will have something cool with later natures for syrand subclasses, like beyond light titans got an ice spear... hope to see something like that with future natures and aspects.
Same
As a Warlock main, all of the classes have bad exotics and abilities. Warlock supers and abilities just suck as a whole. Hunters are the only ones having fun rn.
I agree
Looks like I am sticking with hammers lol
new trailer just dropped and oh boy lol sad times here
Bro. My Titan classes suck this season.
Aged like milk
What is the background music name
Could have gave us a ranged super with giant fists
or giant crayons lol
@@PocketTuna Either or
hate to say this to ya cheif but shotguns are king tho sniping is indeed something that's a pain to get hit with its better then being shotgun aped by a rushing titan shotgun then one punch o-0 where sniping requires you to hit the head also the body is covered in woven mail however that is not the case for heads so you should just aim at the head cheif and you will be ok as for flitch don't even get me started how bad flinch is on sniper redical says good bye to screen and u are screwed sometimes u can get lucky on a good day but from what i see all is nothing but shotgun apes running around slide shotgun or grenade launcher that and sniping in 6v6 is like trying to get your hands unfrozen on a cold ass day. now as for your statement about supers i mean your a titan your all about being in there you got a shield a hammer and yes a fist there is a thunder crash this is another roaming super but with blades duel blades i can see why it would annoy you however isn't the titans class all about close range ? hell your even going to have way more faster mobility AND three melees as a base so how on earth are u not happy about it ? this has been something titans have been wanting something similar to the Twilight Garrison your getting that hell u even taken dodge ability that normally hunters have cause it is part of there identity witch is agility i don't know what you guys want at this point you want a well as well ? now about the ability thing yes i agree somewhat about the khepherys horn well lets see if we left them to where they where last time then they would be extremally broken then if the exotics makes it to where it has a bigger and wider range i think that is something that needs to be taken into account but that probably is not in your book because again no one has played strand yet but from what the verbs of the new class it seems this exotic is going to be really nice and really good but its also built into a ability's or the class its self witch is a W like you said however in all honesty it probably dose not change your mind witch is fine. p.s if your wondering why im writing a full on paragraph its cause i just felt like it
I like punches what can I say I won’t be disappointed
But I do see your point with the super
It's okay to like punches lol I do too honestly
Little bit late to the vid but fuck yea im a titan of nearly 10 years and even after seeing more trailers.. im some what disapointed with another mele super.. iv honestly for the first time started to question bungies "creativness" with titans .. shit or not ill still use it maybe thats a bad thing but i will not go and switch characters especially those fucking hunters.. anyone else see that throwing knife the hunters have that has fucking tracking.. rip titans and warlocks in pvp, glad i quit that shit years ago
I find it funny that the Titan's canonical lack of creativity is specifically the reason why they resort to punching things with new and unknown powers. Zavala gets mad, he punches a table. Titan guardians pick up stasis, 'punch!' Titans discover strand, "Ha, ha knife hands!"
lol I need to change the canon
That's not true though. They are leaders, tacticians, and soldiers. They are the walls that defend the city, not dumb brutes that punch stuff.
@Alex Mercer Their interpretation of their powers begs to differ. Titans punch first and ask questions later.
You should learn what objective means. Also, saying random blueberries is redundant.
lolololololol
#bungiehatestitans
I don't bother myself with such difficulties...I can create a destructive build with anything and make it very fun. So I don't think that titan will be boring. He has 3 melees that reduce enemies' damage and grow in strength with using them. Super can buff itself either so it will be good at least for cleaning and maybe for boss damage if bungie overbuff it's damage. With new "khepri's" barricade he theoretically will be able to stun an entire room of mobs with a single button and slice throught them after. And he'll get a lot of resists and enemy's damage reduction to survive no problem.
By the way striker titan is a piece of shit now. He has nothing except his three times nerfed grenades with heart of inmost light. Both of his supers are demon crap. It's the most boring and non-different subclass ever created.
What about other 2 classes...there is no much difference either: hunter being all-mobility-and-control-focused with another bullshitdive ability (and I think the most useless super amongst all 3...maybe it will have some play in pvp), warlock has a bastard child of blade barrage and cataclysm nova. The only creative thing that bungie added is grapple hook and even this is one of the most popular things in the game industry.
Bro go outside
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@@PocketTuna 🤣 fair point. Bro idk why I even commented this. I apologize. Good luck with the chanel dude. I can admit when I'm being an ass.
All good brother lol we all have our days