I think this lens really excels at shooting bnw film. The lower contrast really lets each individual bnw film stock stand out on it's own merits, rather than question how much contrast our expensive super asph perfect lens added. Otherwise if I shoot color, especially digital, I definitely prefer my ultrons. Great run down Benj!
I have the silver version and use it on my M10-R black chrome, it looks great with or without the hood, pics are nice and sharp, however I think I would go for the VM f2 Ultron II because of closer focus for one and better optics as well. I have the VM 35mm Ultron II and that is my “go to” lens for daily walks. Great job on this review, as usual.
Interesting overview. 100 cm close-focusing is common for old Leica lenses, including the modern Summaron-M. Perhaps you should try some vintage glass.
For use on film I went with the Voigtlander 25mm F4 VM as an alternative. With a hood it’s just a little smaller, wider, less-slow and I preferred the ergonomics. It focusses close (closer than the rangefinder actually).
I’ve been using the silver version on my Fuji X-Pro1 with a 7artisans close focus M mount adapter. The lens looks great on that body, and the adapter helps with the “1 meter minimum focus” issue by basically adding a second focus ring to use when wanting to focus closer.
I have the silver version. Very small, no issues as yet with images from a M10. Plus it looks & works very well on a Fuji X-T20. For the money, I think you are spot on, it looks and feels right for a vintage looking lens. Great video's, thanks....
Nice video! Even with an understanding that your silver might not even be available in production, do you have a clear preference between that and the black in terms of flare performance?
Is there a way to Mount a Fuji lens to a Leica M camera? I know it can be done the other way around where a Leica lens can be mounted to a fuji X camera. Thanks in advance.
Sorry about my ignorance, but Is there a risk of getting paint chipped off onto the camera sensor if you use a black version, considering the lens has paint from the inside where it sits close to the sensor?
People with leica's aren't going to be worried about price of the ultron and to get handicapped as a result. To me the main reason for this lens is how it looks and for the people who don't care about faster aperture and don't mind everything in focus all the times.
Hey Benj, how are you going?? Unfortunately I don’t own a Leica, but I do own a xpro3, and I’d love to see more lens reviews on that amazing body! No idea if you’re interested of doing that, but if so, I’d be really happy! Haha
Please review also the 7Artisans 28/5.6 - common Review knowledge is, it's sharper, better IQ than the TTArtisan 28/5.6, but a bit bigger, and less cute. Same goes for the 7Artisans 35/1.4 Wen vs TTArtisan 35/1.4 ASPH, TTA is the better lens from it's looks, but from picture quality, 7Artisans wins.
@@benjhaisch Sorry Benji, i've missed that somehow. Its only, that i am disappointed from TTArtisan another time, their shiny-new TTA 35 F2 ASPH is not, what i've expected. It's too huge, too big, does have onion rings bokeh, and overall not what i wanted to see into a new 35mm F2 500 bucks lens. Sad, but true. For the record, i had serveral times contact with TTA Asia by mail , and also Cloe from TTA via whatsapp, asking for an all black design of their new 28/5.6 M Lens, back into the day, they responded to consider this, but had not given any release date.
Yeah, I emailed about getting a black version as well. Glad they did it. Where are you seeing the Onion ring bokeh? I haven’t seen any in the 35APO samples. It does look enormous though
Well you are comparing a 1950s vs 70s style lens. People do want different things. In the UK the Ultron is £700 whilst this lens is £230. As a snapshot/street lens it is quite nice I think.
@@mynewcolour if I wanted an old vintage lens I would just buy a real one and for less than this one. 🤷🏻♂️ and it would be of much higher quality. From what we see here and what I’ve already heard, TTartisan can’t even keep lens variation anywhere close to one another. Getting one of these is a crap-shoot. 😅
I think this lens really excels at shooting bnw film. The lower contrast really lets each individual bnw film stock stand out on it's own merits, rather than question how much contrast our expensive super asph perfect lens added. Otherwise if I shoot color, especially digital, I definitely prefer my ultrons. Great run down Benj!
LOVED it on film. Will probably start using it at weddings more and more on the M6
Really liked the lofi landscapes in the previous video with this lens. Painterly 🎨
Thank u Alex
I have the silver version and use it on my M10-R black chrome, it looks great with or without the hood, pics are nice and sharp, however I think I would go for the VM f2 Ultron II because of closer focus for one and better optics as well. I have the VM 35mm Ultron II and that is my “go to” lens for daily walks. Great job on this review, as usual.
Which handgrip do you have for your black Leica? I'm lookin for a nice one for my M10 Monochrom!
Interesting overview. 100 cm close-focusing is common for old Leica lenses, including the modern Summaron-M. Perhaps you should try some vintage glass.
I have! As a new lens though, I would have wished they could have engineered it to be able to focus a bit closer as well
For use on film I went with the Voigtlander 25mm F4 VM as an alternative. With a hood it’s just a little smaller, wider, less-slow and I preferred the ergonomics. It focusses close (closer than the rangefinder actually).
I’ve been using the silver version on my Fuji X-Pro1 with a 7artisans close focus M mount adapter. The lens looks great on that body, and the adapter helps with the “1 meter minimum focus” issue by basically adding a second focus ring to use when wanting to focus closer.
I have the silver version. Very small, no issues as yet with images from a M10. Plus it looks & works very well on a Fuji X-T20. For the money, I think you are spot on, it looks and feels right for a vintage looking lens. Great video's, thanks....
If you’re shooting say F8/F11? Even though you’re pushing the minimum distance aren’t you still going to have sharpness? To an extent.
Nice video! Even with an understanding that your silver might not even be available in production, do you have a clear preference between that and the black in terms of flare performance?
Where is that wooden handgrip from?
Did you try it on gfx ? :)
If so, did u see a huge vignette or not that much ?
Thx
Have you seen the new 35mm f2 APO from TTArtisans?
Yeah! I’ll have a review on it probably later this month!
@@benjhaisch Can’t wait! I’ve been waiting for reviews of that lens. I want to see if it fits well on Fuji bodies.
@@TheMayzin Whilst waiting for a review from Benj, check out the site 35mmc who have a written review of the 35mm APO.
@@joetrent4753 will do. Thank you so much, Joe.
Any issues with the black paint on the lens mount coming off inside your camera?
Had been waiting for this!
7 artisans close focus adapter?
Is there a way to Mount a Fuji lens to a Leica M camera? I know it can be done the other way around where a Leica lens can be mounted to a fuji X camera. Thanks in advance.
I have the black paint. It feels like a Leica lens. Love it! I am hoping they would make the collapsible 50 and 35 Summaron or Elmar equivalent.
The real thing are not all that expensive.
Great review, as always! Thanks!
Hi... I'm not sure the benefit against the tiny elmarit.. other than the cost
Sorry about my ignorance, but Is there a risk of getting paint chipped off onto the camera sensor if you use a black version, considering the lens has paint from the inside where it sits close to the sensor?
I guess? It’s not something I’d ever worry about any more than dust though
I have one and I love it !
I can't help feeling that the 5.6 is such an unnecessary handicap, especially when the Voightlander 28 f2 exists around the same price
It's not the 'same price' - the Voigtlander is about twice as long, twice as heavy and, when I bought my TTArtisan, about three times as expensive.
I think the Voigtlander is about double the price
@@benjhaisch they have put the price up a bit $326 USD/£272 GBP - I paid £219 last year for mine.
The Voigtlander is currently around £700 here.
This is an f8 and be there lens .
People with leica's aren't going to be worried about price of the ultron and to get handicapped as a result. To me the main reason for this lens is how it looks and for the people who don't care about faster aperture and don't mind everything in focus all the times.
Shame they don't make this grip for M9s.
Hey Benj, how are you going??
Unfortunately I don’t own a Leica, but I do own a xpro3, and I’d love to see more lens reviews on that amazing body!
No idea if you’re interested of doing that, but if so, I’d be really happy! Haha
At 1meter you still have like 60cm DOF at f5.6. So it isn't all that bad
Please review also the 7Artisans 28/5.6 - common Review knowledge is, it's sharper, better IQ than the TTArtisan 28/5.6, but a bit bigger, and less cute. Same goes for the 7Artisans 35/1.4 Wen vs TTArtisan 35/1.4 ASPH, TTA is the better lens from it's looks, but from picture quality, 7Artisans wins.
I did a direct comparison a couple of videos ago 🙌🏼
@@benjhaisch Sorry Benji, i've missed that somehow. Its only, that i am disappointed from TTArtisan another time, their shiny-new TTA 35 F2 ASPH is not, what i've expected. It's too huge, too big, does have onion rings bokeh, and overall not what i wanted to see into a new 35mm F2 500 bucks lens. Sad, but true.
For the record, i had serveral times contact with TTA Asia by mail , and also Cloe from TTA via whatsapp, asking for an all black design of their new 28/5.6 M Lens, back into the day, they responded to consider this, but had not given any release date.
Yeah, I emailed about getting a black version as well. Glad they did it. Where are you seeing the Onion ring bokeh? I haven’t seen any in the 35APO samples. It does look enormous though
@@benjhaisch I've posted the links twice, but my messages _magically_ disappeared under the comment section hereby....
@@marcp.1752 ah bummer, yeah YT probably thinks they’re spam :/
The 28Ultron II isn’t that much bigger and so much more useful. Has none of the limitations. King of 28s. This is probably more for the looks.
True, but it is about twice the price.
@@mynewcolour and 100x better. For everything. People are just buying this for the looks. And that’s okay I guess.
Well you are comparing a 1950s vs 70s style lens. People do want different things. In the UK the Ultron is £700 whilst this lens is £230. As a snapshot/street lens it is quite nice I think.
@@mynewcolour if I wanted an old vintage lens I would just buy a real one and for less than this one. 🤷🏻♂️ and it would be of much higher quality. From what we see here and what I’ve already heard, TTartisan can’t even keep lens variation anywhere close to one another. Getting one of these is a crap-shoot. 😅
Really? Show me a good vintage 28mm for less $400. I’ll wait.
Great review. I would rather pay more and get a non-Chinese product.