Here’s Pat Martino’s “Symmetrical Parental Forms”: Both the Augmented triad (1-3-#5) and the Diminished 7th chord are symmetrical in nature (equally-spaced intervals) and very easy to form on the guitar. So they can both be used as starting points to form other chords. - If you play 554 on the GBE strings, that’s a C augmented triad. Lower any one of those 3 notes, and you’ll form an E, Ab, or C triad. If instead you raise any one of those notes, you’ll form a C#min, Fmin, or Am triad (the relative minors of the major triads). Now if you play 4545 on the DGBE strings, that’s a Diminished 7th chord (1-b3-b5-bb7) named for any one of those notes (F#, C, D#, A). If you lower any one of those notes, you will form a F7, B7, D7 or G#7 chord. If you raise any one of the original notes, you will form an Amin7b5, D#min7b5, F#min7b5, or Cmin7b5 chord. So Pat Martino explained how the symmetrical nature of those 2 chords (all major 3rds, and all minor 3rds) made them useful for forming other chords on the guitar.
Man! You saved my life! I had an audition soon and I am desperately trying to sound more fluent with outside sound and this is So helpful🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤one of the best jazz guitar teachers here on TH-cam
This is Martino's Parental Forms concept. Key centers are "related" by equal interval chords, such as dim7 and augmented. Makes playing "out" a lot more understandable.
Hey Nathan, remember me from the live stream? I really enjoyed it, you should do more of those if you can,it was fun to be able to ask questions and get them answered in real time.
@Nathan also a nice technique over a one chord vamp, Moving a riff up by major thirds. (In Bb M : ) 1) A G F Eb F 2) Db B A G A 3) F Eb Db B Db 4) A G F Eb F The nice thing about it is it brings you back to the original after only two out movements and the out movements still have common tones
I really like your content. You explain and demonstrate things really well. Thank you! I find that there is something extremely weird about your voice sound … too much compression? No idea. It doesn’t sound natural. But that’s my only nitpick, your stuff is great. Cheers and best wishes!
Hi jz, thank so much for your kind words. Yes, i actually know what your talking about. It's a problem with syncing the audio to the video. If you have any solutions I would love to hear it! The problem lies in the the sample rates for some reason dont match even though everything is recorded at 48. I use the retime to make things line up and it slightly distorts the audio, but saves alot of time. Trying to find solution now for awhile :(
@@NathanBortonMusic Such a drag when tech doesn't quite work, must be frustrating. Searching "audio video sample rates don't match" gives some reddit threads, maybe something in there will be of service. Hopefully I'm not restating the obvious. Cheers and good luck!
Noob question : What do yo mean by a minor sound / a dominant sound at 1:25? are thes elines using notes from a minor chord and a dominant chord exclusively?
Great question! Yes, there are specific lines that outline various sounds in jazz music. Learn these types of sounds and how to play them is essential for playing jazz. Here is a great lesson that shows a variety of common sounds and some language to play them: th-cam.com/video/Lb2FMVWjuBs/w-d-xo.html
I'm not sure I understand your question Mickeo? Are you asking why don't you start on the root of the dominant chord? If so that's because the reason all the dominant chords are connected in minor 3rds are because of the parental diminished form. Here's the video that talk more about the theory behind it: th-cam.com/video/O_bpp41biPg/w-d-xo.html
Here’s Pat Martino’s “Symmetrical Parental Forms”:
Both the Augmented triad (1-3-#5) and the Diminished 7th chord are symmetrical in nature (equally-spaced intervals) and very easy to form on the guitar.
So they can both be used as starting points to form other chords. - If you play 554 on the GBE strings, that’s a C augmented triad. Lower any one of those 3 notes, and you’ll form an E, Ab, or C triad. If instead you raise any one of those notes, you’ll form a C#min, Fmin, or Am triad (the relative minors of the major triads).
Now if you play 4545 on the DGBE strings, that’s a Diminished 7th chord (1-b3-b5-bb7) named for any one of those notes (F#, C, D#, A). If you lower any one of those notes, you will form a F7, B7, D7 or G#7 chord. If you raise any one of the original notes, you will form an Amin7b5, D#min7b5, F#min7b5, or Cmin7b5 chord. So Pat Martino explained how the symmetrical nature of those 2 chords (all major 3rds, and all minor 3rds) made them useful for forming other chords on the guitar.
Perfect.
Man! You saved my life! I had an audition soon and I am desperately trying to sound more fluent with outside sound and this is So helpful🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤one of the best jazz guitar teachers here on TH-cam
Glad to help! and good luck!
This is Martino's Parental Forms concept. Key centers are "related" by equal interval chords, such as dim7 and augmented. Makes playing "out" a lot more understandable.
Yes! Such a powerful tool
Hey Nathan, remember me from the live stream? I really enjoyed it, you should do more of those if you can,it was fun to be able to ask questions and get them answered in real time.
Another stellar video Nathan! I always learn from your lessons and appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us all. God bless!
Thank you so much for the kind words! So glad your finding the lessons helpful :)
@Nathan also a nice technique over a one chord vamp,
Moving a riff up by major thirds. (In Bb M : )
1) A G F Eb F
2) Db B A G A
3) F Eb Db B Db
4) A G F Eb F
The nice thing about it is it brings you back
to the original after only two out movements
and the out movements still have common tones
Yes! The augmented family, such a powerful tool. Thanks for pointing that out!
Will have to watch this a few times to understand it !
No worries! Let me know if you have any questions!
wow what a powerful concept, Pat is such a legend! Such an awesome video that really breaks it down in a easy to understand way, as always!
Thanks Joshua! Yes, it's amazing what just two lines can do when you understand Pat's amazing method!
Fantastic lesson Nathan 🎸👍 you're doing an awesome job with your videos, best to you!
Thanks so much! Always appreciate your support :)
Great! I been working on his Linear Expressions book for several years now. It's fantastic.
Great lesson as always 👍🏆
Thank you! Always appreciate your support :)
Amazing Nathan, amazing!
Hey thanks so much :)
I'm diggin this, but maybe use a guitar with position markers. Thanks for the lesson.
Really awesome!!!!
It’s such a cool concept!
very interesting, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Amazing video
Thanks so much! :)
Thanks for teaching me how to fish!!
Salmon is my favorite!
Good stuff
Appreciate it!
I really like your content. You explain and demonstrate things really well. Thank you! I find that there is something extremely weird about your voice sound … too much compression? No idea. It doesn’t sound natural. But that’s my only nitpick, your stuff is great. Cheers and best wishes!
Hi jz, thank so much for your kind words. Yes, i actually know what your talking about. It's a problem with syncing the audio to the video. If you have any solutions I would love to hear it! The problem lies in the the sample rates for some reason dont match even though everything is recorded at 48. I use the retime to make things line up and it slightly distorts the audio, but saves alot of time. Trying to find solution now for awhile :(
@@NathanBortonMusic Such a drag when tech doesn't quite work, must be frustrating. Searching "audio video sample rates don't match" gives some reddit threads, maybe something in there will be of service. Hopefully I'm not restating the obvious. Cheers and good luck!
Rad. Thanks
You bet!
Yeah I’m pretty good at guitar with 30 yrs experience but I don’t understand a word you just said:). Pretty awesome though
I figured this out on my own years ago. Does that mean I’m a genius or something?
At least more of a genius than me!
Noob question : What do yo mean by a minor sound / a dominant sound at 1:25? are thes elines using notes from a minor chord and a dominant chord exclusively?
Great question! Yes, there are specific lines that outline various sounds in jazz music. Learn these types of sounds and how to play them is essential for playing jazz. Here is a great lesson that shows a variety of common sounds and some language to play them: th-cam.com/video/Lb2FMVWjuBs/w-d-xo.html
How about the kick start from 1 or b7 in dominant?
Then the first up of 1 would be in minor 3 and not in the chord tone of dominant?
I'm not sure I understand your question Mickeo? Are you asking why don't you start on the root of the dominant chord? If so that's because the reason all the dominant chords are connected in minor 3rds are because of the parental diminished form. Here's the video that talk more about the theory behind it: th-cam.com/video/O_bpp41biPg/w-d-xo.html
Very helpful , thank you. What kind of guitar is that.
No problem! I'm using a benedetto bravo deluxe!
Thanks.
Fantastico. Great Nathan.
Hey appreciate you watching!
This is teaching a advanced player it's not teaching a beginner how to play it
This video was not advertised as a beginner video, just a cool concept I wanted to share :)
I think most people would say this is intermediate at most. And yes, there was no mention of it being for beginners