GREAT NEW FEATURES 2022 Travato 59GL, Lithium🔋 system. Winnebago Class B campervan 🚐 FOR SALE!
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Recorded in June 2021 at Winnebago Motor Homes in Rockford, Illinois. Published on 10-Jul-21
Great new features in the 2022 Travato 59G/GL campervan by Winnebago. More open space, water saver, wider bed, better shower plumbing system, more comfortable bed, and much more. Equipped with Volta Pure3 lithium system for maximum freedom.
FOR SALE on DEALER LOT as of 09-Jul-21 is the tough to find 2022 Travato 59GL camper van. Contact Mick at Winnebago Motor Homes for more info, (866) 964-5591, www.winnebagomotorhomes.com
GSLL/me has no financial interest in this rig, nor was I compensated for making this video. Just exposing this awesome Class B RV for those that want a van right away.
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Next time you get a chance inside a 22GL step inside the bathroom to show us how much room there is-looks narrower & not as tall. This was helpful to hear him explain some of the reasons for the changes. May lose storage in one area, but gain an alternative. Informative interview👍🏼 Thanks for sharing so we can learn.
you correct about the bathroom.. thx for sharing Bev
Thanks for an enjoyable video. One of the absolute best at highlighting the features of the GL.
Glad you think so Ryan… still a great floor plan!
Such a fantastic video Scott! Still a fan of the 2019 59G but there love the induction cook top...residential faucet and the recirculating water feature and the no shower pump and drain issue. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😎😎😎😎😎😎😎💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Thank You Scott for showing this Winnebago Travato. It’s nice to see how they made some changes. I do like how the tv swivels. It’s very nice. I still like your floor plan. Thank you Scott for this video and Mick too! Hope you have a great day!
Our pleasure Sherri !
I really like that they lost that crazy shower drain pump.
Yeah, the filters were more the problem than the pump IMO, but less motors usually better. thx Ed for commenting
Hey Scott, have a 2022 59GL on order arriving soon... love the new layout as a solo traveler... having the open area is far more important than a second be that I won't use. The Volta system (and your videos) is what really sold me on Winnebago, and they did increase the size to 9600 W-hrs from 8700... love your videos and hope to see you on the road 👍
super appreicate your comments Sean. Look forward to our path crossing !
Love the new Travato...wow..thanks for the tour
Thanks for watching Mary !
Great video. I will get mine in early November and can't wait.
super excited for you Gary
Great tour... I don’t expect this van will be sitting on the lot too long after this!!!
I am with your thinking. Having a Travato on a dealer lot is rather rare!
Love the extra power, I feel the more the better. I love that city water is now inside as well as the fresh water fill. I was always worried about someone tampering with the water fill. I love the outdoor shower and privacy sheet, now no more scaring the children. Hahahahaha Great video Scott and Mic. F&T ❤️BT❤️ Cheers!!!
With the city water there you have to leave the door open. What’s worse? Tampering with just the water or getting inside and tampering with everything?
thx F&T !
@@eohcyt2996 you would be there when you are filling your water but if you are out and about with the van left alone at the campsite or even when you are sleeping, you never know what someone can pour into The freshwater fill. Nope I never liked it open to the outside.
I don’t get the having to leave the doors open to use city water. I understand they want to make it a 4 season coach but that is not computing for me they need to figure out a way to get the water supply and be able to close the doors.
It's my favorite floor plan. If I get a Travato....it will be this kind.
I’m with you !
I like the bathroom, looks bigger. For the side door, I would rather have a slide screen, just my preference. Thank you again Scott.
I’m with you on the sliding screen. but haven’t spent time with that version. so tough to say
Scott that is very nice 🧐really done some nice upgrades I like that
Good to know… It is still a 59G !!
Thanks! I am still on the fence between the Travato and the Coachmen Beyond. I would live to have a four seasons van. But I do like the Travato floor plan and garage. That back shower is cool! I don't understand having the city water connection inside, I guess you have to fill it and then disconnect the hose to close the doors.
I think you are right on the water situation. Thx for comment
Thanks for the informative video.
Nice job🚐
you are welcome !
If I had the cash I'd call Mick right away. Good review, very positive.
I appreciate that Rich.
Thanks for your RV dealer interview. When you are own your Route 66 trip, please keep us knowledgeable about how your Mach10 AC keeps you cool. This is one time you are traveling by destination not elevation. Being in humid hot Georgia, staying cool in important! Thanks
Sure thing! going through those states in the middle of an overheated summer will be interesting .. Thx Sunny !
This is the dealer closest to my house! Since you bought from them Scott, and had a great experience, I will definitely look into their inventory!
Winnebago Motor Homes in Rockford IL is one of the best !
I am now leaning towards the 22 Travado rather then the Solis. I am not a fan of the generator.We don't need the second bed because it will only be two of us. Thanks for the video I will let you know what we do. Hope to see you when you make your way through Louisiana. Stay Safe.
Fair enough Brad !
I love this one floor plan
So glad you do! thx for watching, commenting, and being a subscriber!
I loved the 2nd bed option. Guess I need to find a used 2021 model :)
yes
2 things, wish they would've kept an option for the second bed and the tv is only viewable from the front seats. I think it would be cool to have the tv hidden in the above side cabinet and then lower down to counter top when viewing. Now that would probably take all the storage space in the above cabinet but what if they designed a clever cabinet cover that would hold a very thin flat screen that could swing down? I think the G model is a great platform to work with.
With you on the G platform !
I’ve watched many of these 2022 59GL videos and they show a high-quality camper van. Sadly, the quality is not across-the-board. On the day of delivery of our 2022 59GL, We walked away from our walk-through and at this point are no longer considering Winnebagos. The van that ended up getting delivered to our dealership had teeny tiny little exposed staples, some in, some out of the cabinetry, exposed foam around the windows and partially exposed around the back molding, the molding at the rear of the coach that holds the screen was unattached to the van itself and was hanging down with a big gap completely separated from the van, and the tow bar had been destroyed either in the shipping to the first dealership, or during the transportation from that dealership to the one we were purchasing the van from 90 miles away. We were disenchanted by both Winnebago and our dealership for not having caught any of the issues prior to our delivery/walk-through. Just a cautionary tale for those out there who are looking to purchase one of these rigs - - look at it very closely prior to signing for it! The van in this video looks amazing and is far and away from the 2022 we almost owned. If this van was the one that showed up at our dealership, it would be ours!
thank you for the heads up
good points.. I plan to look very close before accepted -- hopefully -- I get a decent built one -- the dealer I'm buying is only a mile from the WGO factory... I actually tried to get a qoute for ordering from my local dealer and it was an unpleasant nightmare and I never got a real order quote.. they kept saying put the money down - order and we will give you the price... very poor local WGO dealer experience
the walkthrough is so important. Consider it a “house inspection” when you by a traditional house, except YOU are the inspector . thx for sharing
it would be a massive let down to tank the deal on my van with findings on the walk thru.. that would truly suck.. for my solo needs in part time van traveling -- nothing really fits like the G travato with volta
The final straw and dealbreaker for us was the guy they assigned to do the delivery/walk-through. He had no energy and did not address our concerns as they came up. He was not familiar with the 59GL, did not know how to set up the bike rack, was missing some small pieces and parts (he grabbed the missing pieces off the rig next to ours that was also awaiting delivery), and did not seem to care at all one bit when we pointed out the destroyed tow bar and hanging molding/screen. All of this should’ve been caught way ahead of time, but he was completely unprepared. Thankfully the dealership gave us our entire deposit back without question and right away. They could not deny all the issues! Again, I stress being thorough and not settling when picking up your rig! For the amount of money we were prepared to pay, our expectations were much higher than what was presented to us for delivery. Yes, it is still a sellers market, but buyers do not have to settle for crap when paying so much money. (This all happened two weeks ago… Can you tell I’m still pretty steamed?! LOL)
I love the whole new 2022 GL floor plan. My recommendations would be:
1) I rather see an option for a cassette toilet and eliminate the whole black tank. And give it a larger fresh water tank.
2) Already mentioned it, I would love to see the fresh water tank larger.
3) Would be nice to see an option like Mercedes Benz has, a automatic sliding door. When on a camp ground or anywhere else to eliminate the loud noise from closing the door by a press of the button.
4) Why is there no option like the units have in Europe to have all windows in the dual plexiglass?? The side window in the galley and back windows. I've seen it in European RV's as mentioned. A beautiful thing to have.
Besides those points, a gorgeous unit.
Great points Peter. thx for sharing
Great video, thanks Scott! The water hookup being on the van interior is a deal breaker for me, but otherwise it looks like a really solid set of upgrades to this model.
Fair enough!
yea so you have to keep the back door open for the water hook up? He did not say. If you are at a campsite that would be awkward and a safety issue.
@@pamelakilponen3682 he actually did say but didn't really focus on it.
He said at 19:45 if you want to close the doors you need to disconnect and use internal water. Which I guess if it's just for the night is only a minor inconvenience. Not a deal breaker for me but I don't like it.
I like the layout. It looks a lot like my Hymer. 👍
Hymer !!
Great tour! Do you know who makes the window screen unit on the windows? what size is the window on the drivers side near the front?
Hey Scott, could you give us an update on all of the camera equipment including phone and Gimbal stuff for your recordings? thanks, maybe make a video on all of the camera equipment?
Great question that I will answer on this week’s What’s Up Wednesday?! #vanlife RV show. Hope you can catch that live or watch the replay.
Current gear
- iPhone 12 Pro Max for camera
- Rode mics: lightening into iPhone, wireless go
- dual wireless mic system plugs into iPhone (new, need to use 1st time0
- couple of tripods
- Macintosh + iMovie for editing
- moving to iPad Pro + LumaFusion for editing
Those are the basics. More detail on the WuW show.
Thanks for asking about it
Nice tour guys! I’m in my 2022 GL for a month now and love it. They took a little width from the bathroom and made the bed a little wider. And since I travel solo and work full time on my laptop I don’t need the second bed up front, I enjoy the extra room up there. The toilet is working well, but the shower is tight, I try to shower at the gym or campground when I can. The bed is VERY comfortable for me, very nice mattress so far. I’m looking forward to the caravan when you get to the West coast Scott!
Thx DavePNW for your comments on your ‘Travato experience.
The majority of the changes in the 2022 Travato 59GL are big steps backwards. They destroyed the lounge and 2nd bed option, raised the bathroom floor making the ceiling to low, made the water fill impossible without the van open, took away some of the under bed wall storage, and put an awkward step in the lounge. I actually like the inverter bench in my 2021 with the magnetized opening on the kitchen side of the screen. One positive is the ability to expand the Pure3 capacity. If I couldn’t have purchased my 2021 Travato 59GL with a 2021 chassis I would have been pushed to another manufacturer such as the Coachman Nova. Please note that we love our 2021 with all available upgrades.
great comments Jim. appreicate you sharing your comparison thoughts. I too love my ‘19 59GL..
Scott the next time you r In a 2022 GL Travato can you tell me what would you buy to make a bed somewhere in that area where your 2019 van has the dinette bed.
I’m thinking maybe you can measure the floor space under the Frig area to the back of the front seat. The only thing I don’t like is the step it will make a difficult way to place a foldable mattress
Winnebago makes available an air mattress for use in the cab using the front cab seats as support.
Hello my friend, I’m not sure how the City water hook up works. So you have to leave your door open when you’re hooked up to city water is that what I saw? Is there a hole somewhere for the hose to go through the wall to hook up to the van? Thanks for the review, as always stay Thirsty.
Hello TBB… yes, from what we saw doors have to be open. A hole in floor would allow a hose to pass through, but may let in bugs and vermin.
The Polish built Globe traveller's Voyager and Explorer models have a somewhat similar layout but include some more features and is priced much lower.
good to know. Subscribe if not done already so you don’t miss a single video!
The water hookup is a little strange you would think you'd want to stay hooked up to the water and have the door shut. Have fun on your route 66
Water thing is a head scratcher ! Thx for Route 66… hope you can follow along
Thanks Scott, can you please point out a a video the location of all the parts and pieces of the VOLTA system.
I would like to see if a plug somewhere is not plugged in since the my brothers system will not charge by means of Gen on board nor the sun.
Thanks
John H
John please see my response to your many emails.
@@gosmall.livelarge thanks Scott I did see your email
Will respond shortly
Thank you.
I like the second bed more, wish they kept that
Agree with you !
Its insane some of the problems they didn't address and some of the new ones they created. Some really good changes, a lot of bad.
Where did they put the inverter that used to live in the jump seat? I assume it is now eating up garage storage space.
Looked like they got rid of the Remis shade in the windshield, yes? I decided after the first time I had mine replaced that if it broke again I'd just get a VanMade shade.
Did they do anything about the $10,000 worth of lithium batteries hanging off the back axle and really limiting ground clearance?
I never use city water but I do like to hook up and leave my hose connected. All they had to do was put a hole in the floor so I'm guessing that will be a mod circulating on the FB group very soon. Unfortunately the "G" floorplan isn't available from other manufacturers. Shame because someone could certainly be lured away from Winnebago if they would build with a little more thought and quality.
Awesome comments from The Ginger Walkabout… she knows a thing or three about the Travato 59GL floor plan!
I'm not so sure about the water management control center. I do not like the idea of having to open the door to fill the tank. Do you have to leave the door open if you are hooked up to city water? I didn't follow what he said about having a short hose attached. My 2019 59KL has quite a bit of storage where the water management center is. We put our leveling ramps, water hose, and electric cable there. Winnebago has added a couple of new storage areas. Are these adequate replacements for the storage area lost?
Yes, cargo doors open to add water. the water control system looks like one needs to got college to figure it out. thanks for commenting Doug!
So you can't have City Water hooked up what's the doors closed? Who would want that? Also is there another way to gravity field the freshwater tank from jugs of water that you bring?
Yes, need cargo door open to fill tank, run off city pressurized water, and use San-t-flush for black tank. Not sure on gravity fill.
“A movie screen “ 😂😂,
L O L
Great walk through Scott. Like some things about the new floor plan but still prefer the old layout. Highly recommend Winnebago Motorhomes of Rockford, IL. Family owned. Great people and customer service. Like that you can see Discovery (our white 2021 Travato GL) in the background 😀
Discovery photo bomb!
Hi Scott, great video again!! Would a Travato from that dealer and state, or any state, pass a California smog check? Do they have different exhaust set ups depending on state of purchase?
Yes I checked with Winnebago before purchasing my 2021 Travato. I live in CA and purchased from a wonderful dealership in SC.
@@jimeverett1800 Thank you Jim!!
Not that I know of on state tests. Looks like Jim below helped out
The only thing I don’t like is the 2 seats behind the driver, wish it was a bench and didn’t stick out past the closet. I would like a smaller bench seat and those few inches as more floor space top make it look bigger.
Intersting points Linda. Thx for sharing
I have a question about the reliability of the ram promaster. What mechanical issues have you had with yours if any?
Replace cylinder head at 49,000 miles. Nothing super serious since. Promaster has done well for me. Would buy again
Can you have the air on and use the induction cooktop also?
Dave, yes… the Volta Pure3 system has the 3600 watt inverter to run most everything in the van at once off your Volta system. pretty amazing stuff
Does the 2022GL have the two alternators under the hood, one to start the engine when needed to charge the Lithium battery? Does it come with the collision assist and wind sensors? How about the Apple Car play radio system? 9 Speed transmission and larger screen? I'm getting mixed messages on the 22 and 23 chassis .....very confused! I want to buy the 22GL, with these features and don't want to wait for the 23 chasis. Thanks for any help!!
Hi Pamela. I have no experience on the 2023 Promaster chassis. Sorry about that. Yes, Volta equipped coaches have a second Volta alternator that charges the Volta energy pack
@@gosmall.livelarge Thank you!
Still with the ladder hanging off the back and nothing attached to it. A lot of RVs don’t even have a ladder. But a class B RV that has to engineer every square foot seems to ignore several square feet of capacity going down the road. I know that products are available to bolt to the ladders for additional water, fuel or just an extra box. It just seems they could choose to use that space.
thansk for your thoughts !
I like this one much better. I would want the back seats removed so I could put in some plastic cabinets with drawers for more storage.
good to know
I agree. Being by myself, I don't need those jump seats. Would rather have more storage there.
Some of the upgrades are nice and appear to be well thought out. The water connection on the inside of the van doesn't work for me. It would mean if I were in a campground I would have to leave the door open or connect/disconnect the water way too frequently. I suppose I could just run off of the tank and refill as necessary but again IMHO not the best set up for the water connection.
I was just wondering that myself. Seems an obvious miss
Great points.
I see that the 59GL isn't listed on Winnebagos site anymore. Did they discontinue it?
Still available 59G is the floor plan. The L designation indicates Volta Pure3 lithium system included. The floor plan has changed for 2022. Excited for your journey
my single biggest issue with the 2022 Travato is where WGO has the engine exhaust pipe - under the front lounge windows.. I may need to get someone to fix that...
not a great placement if running a Volta Charge-on-Demand session and want that dinette window open
I really do not like the new front living room. I would rather have the extra bed option in front, softer seats, and seating for five. Oh and the new tv placement does not work for me. However, I do like that the controls have been moved over the door instead.
Hi Shannon
Is the water tank still on the inside or was it moved to the outside
I think it is still on the outside under the chassis
Miss losing the 2nd bed
I’m with you on that .. thx for sharing
@@gosmall.livelarge Will be down St Augustine full time in August. Stop by when you are in town!
Am I the only one that hates the look of the murphy bed in the back when rolled up???
You are not alone there !!
Question...... Can I use my 1700 watt countertop toaster oven with this lithium model?
Definintley in a Volta Pure3 equipped coach you can. Thx for watching, leaving a comment and being a subscriber
So you have to open the back of the van to hook up the water. Not working for me
Yeah, that is the new system. You are not a fan I take it.
I have a lot of family in Rockford and surrounding areas. 6 degrees of separation?
Truth ! Rockford is a cool town
@@gosmall.livelarge Yes! It’s been too many years since I’ve been that way and I have family in Rockford, Lindenwood, and Rochelle. Hopefully when I get my van, I’ll make it back!
I still have some significant issues with my Travato that haven’t been fixed yet because of part availability an I’ve had it for 4 months. With prices SO HIGH and price negotiations squeezed because of current demand you’d think that Winnebago and their dealers would make new vehicle repairs a priority.
always super frustrating to have a new rig that is at the hospital when so new born. worth the pains when it delivers such great memories. hang in there!
details?
@@steventoney4018 Truma is defective, doesn’t work and needs replacing. Issues with 2 windows that need replacing and a third that’s not set into the van wall properly leaving a 1/4 inch gap at the bottom. Also got delivery with some paint issues.
thanks.. I sure hope they deliver me one with a decent build
Don’t get me wrong as we love our Travato and already have 7500 miles on it. It’s just frustrating that more urgency isn’t being put into Winnebago’s service.
I also think the new water panel is a terrible idea. Folks have mentioned not being able to hook up city fill without leaving doors open, but I'm more concerned about black flush. I much prefer having the flush near the drain opening. Imagine the draining process when it's raining. Also with heavy bikes on the rear bike rack you can't even access the panel to flush without removing the bikes first. I like most of the new features, but please drop the water panel and punch a few more holes in the body.
I'm curious.. on current Travato users... how many always sani-flush the black tank at every black tank dump -- or follow the black flus with a grey flush and skip hooking a hose to the sani-flush?????? -- do current user -- always load fresh water at same time a flushing the black / grey tank or separate these tasks??
Yeah, the water service panel is a curiosity to me too
I don't like the city water hook up being inside the van, I don't think that was a good idea. You should be able to use a city water connection with the van door shut.
good point
someone needs to focus a bit more time during a review on the swiveled passenger seat with the lagun table mounted on the pedestal in a setup for working with laptop/ipad and such..
good point
You freaked me out! When I saw the title, I thought you were selling Lilly!
Don't do that to me!
Sorry about that Robert!!! LOL… they are so hard to get with one on the lot ready to roll wanted to give notice. Lily NOT for sale, she is my perfect girl.
You skipped what I feel is the "elephant in the room" and that's the height in the bathroom. I wish WB make something in the 19.5 ft range with volta. Volta is what separates it from all the other vans.
Was doing a positive tour… but I’m with you
Call me a ‘Karen’ but the Lagun table mount is a huge change and it doesn’t mount in the Ram track it has a very specific mount on the interior of that pedestal behind passenger seat
Wish you’d have stepped inside for a head [bathroom boat jargon] head check…..
Can you stand up? Or does showering & ‘then some’ require stooping?
regular ceiling height for the van interior, except for the bathroom. that head cleanse reduced by about 4” from what I can tell. I’m 5’10” and have to tilt my head to stand in bathroom
@@gosmall.livelarge
Edited for clarity and
👍 for answer
👎 for inches lost in the bathroom 🤷🏻♀️ offf your head 🤦♀️ er eh THE Headroom-in the Bathroom
Scott, good video; I like the van but this is for single travelers; there is no way a couple can comfortably sleep in a bed smaller than a double...this is often overlooked in reviews and not mentioned but in real life situations, there's no way 2 adults can sleep in a 48'' bed.
You could be right, but I know of many couples in a 59G that use the back bed for sleeping 2 people. depends on person’s size and sleep patterns I think. Great rig for solo. thx for sharing
To Empty Fresh water tank?
??
Is this only sleep for one person?
maybe 2, but not up to 4 like before
This high water faucet splashes water everywhere. I would prefer lower
Hmmm
Anyone going to mention that they are simply making it cheaper for them to produce? Outdoor speakers gone, there's a crappy soundbar now vs an actual audio system module, less labor for them in reference to the cutouts etc... The controls having been moved over vs where they were previously (below the tv) is a deal breaker for me. Winnebago doesn't take the time to space or align these as is, so I wouldn't enjoy seeing them all the time. 2021 is defitinely the one to have.
J V, many, including me, have point out some of those items. Hopefully Winnebago is listening
Some good improvements but the elimination of the front puzzle bed as an option is a mistake.
sorta with your thinking on that Joanne
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thx !!
So you have a two passenger van, and a bed that is only big enough for one? No one wants to travel alone all the time. Just not a good idea to remove the second bed option.
With you on removing 2nd bed… travel 4 but sleep 1 or 2 ? thanks for sharing
I don't care about the G, do the K.
LOL.. ok!
Wonder what could possibly go wrong sleeping with your head next to the toilet?
and separated by a “wall”… thx Charlee for commenting
Dislike the internal water fill, especially for city water. imaging it's raining or windy, who would want to leave their back doors open? Winnebago is cheapening it out so they don't have to cut holes and cut the cost of the 2nd bedroom setup. Dislike the new setup, cost more and you get less. Best to keep the old one Scott. also, if the city fill bust inside the van... good luck with cleaning it.
great points ! thx for commenting
how B vanners -- leave an active "city water" hooked up?? the grey tank is not very large and neither is the black tank.. are there many b can users doing a continuous water hook up -- for this it seems you basics need to have a fulltime sewer hookup as well.. I busting out water leak inside on continuous water hook up on city pressure would be a disaster whether the connection is in or outside - as many of those leaks are internal plumbing. nearly all seem to fill the tank and then use the water pumps from the fresh water tanks -- not continuous city pressure - I personally would never do this on my van
@@steventoney4018 We have the 2022G. Yes your points are good. This is really a Boondocking type vehicle. Even if you were able to hook up to city water you have to manually pump out the gray water using the pump switch (I did not know about until after I purchased the unit) which is outside. So you really couldn’t run water continuously if you want to take a super long shower otherwise your gray tank would overfill.
no gravity fill?
you can fill the fresh water tank using the pump siphon in "winterize" mode on these nautilas centers.. not quite just a pour in gravity fill, but a way to fill from a bucket of filter clean water -- there are so youtube vids showing this...
As stated below. thx Sue!
Thx for that Steve !
The new seats look as comfortable as an electric chair, very stiff
LOL
You're right about that. I would take them out and build in more storage in that space. So many things wrong on this new design. I think the coachman nova is a better build.
Having the rear door open in 40 degree weather to run your city water in is kinda bad design imho.
Tend to agree with you !
I bin looking to get one someday if they ever to get made, they seem to be in Florida or in the Midwest, they not sending any to the southeast, I think they should stop advertising them if they can't deliver them for 6 to 9 months .you know what's going to happen .when you get yours they will announce 2023 they're going to announce that the hybrid coming out and then you feel stupid that you spent $150,000for an outdated vehicle
not sure how that is handled if you have a rig on order and there is a new model announced or shipping. thx for watching and commenting !
I hate the water set up inside. Bugs fly in and if you are filling or flushing at a dump station, your whole van is open to bugs, smells and weather. Don't like that at all.
with you on that… thx for sharing
New outdoor shower as useless as old one
Outdoor shower good for cleaning feet and gear may be a patch. Not sure I’d use it as an outdoor shower. Thank you, for commenting
Bad idea for the city water, no way to close the door and be hooked up👎👎👎
it is strange “improvement”
Doesn’t make sense. Seats four but sleeps two. 🤦♂️
scratching my head too
The jump seats are pointless!! Terrible waste of space. Tv position is worst I've ever seen. Maybe Winnebago should try out their ideas before selling them. The bathroom is now also quite short so anyone near 6' tall will have problems.
Thanks Faith
i don't like it... sorry
i have always favored the Travato 59GL but not anymore..... i like coachmen so so much better.. travato screwed up
who wants o sit in a dam car seat and how the hell do you watch tv in your passenger seat.well that should be comfortable..lmao
they need a volta power system...........................
Coachmen makes a beautiful van. thx for sharing
Coachman has the Li3 system. My give Volta some competition.
the critical test .. for me.. off the battery and inverter -- how long can you run the A/C and can you cook (induction / microwave) as needed while the A/C is running
Yes as the inverter is 3600 watts. You can run everything at the same time with the Volta system.