The Kingkiller Chronicle | Kvothe - A Character Study
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- This video contains spoilers for The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear by Patrick Rothfuss.
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Awesome video, I’m never thought of Kvothe as a Marty Sue, because he has so many flaws. He seldom has his plans go the way he intends, and only comes out victorious when he is purely reacting.
Both Mary Sue and flawed. By the end of book two he'd the best at everything, music, magic, swordsmanship, love making. But he's crap at thinking beyond himself, thinking of other peoples motives, being aware the the consequences of his actions.
Basically he's a stupid genius.
Buzzcook idiot savant
He has a certein sueness, but it gets canceled out by him fucking everything up nevertheless. He is almost perfect but an utter catastrophy magnet at the same time and it is not that those are outside his control, no, his actions directly cause his own downfall, long before he ever spoke to the chathe
navykip I mean he gets his ass handed to him by a little girl numerous times.
Yep. I would have never thought of him as perfect. I mean, he is always trying to get out of some problem he got himself in.
I love how these books focus so much on music
I love kvothe. I can't see him as a mary sue. Someone who becomes a thief. A murderer. A pathological liar and manipulator, not because he wants to most the time. but because he has to. Everytime he opens up even the tiniest bit it blows up in his face. Denna is a perfect example of this. She calls him a child. He wants so badly to tell her. To tell someone but he doesn't cause he's afraid of loosing her. Because she may not believe him. Or worse believe that he believes it an think hes crazy. I love kvothe because he is so deep. His inner struggles are what makes him so loveable an easy to connect with. An utterly broken person who is constantly throwing himself into danger for others even though it gets him into more trouble to do it. Like the little girl's he saves from the fake troopers and end up costing him greatly. A big part of the second book was him trying to get Denna's ring back. He almost gets himself killed at the hands of Ambrose. He even threatens Elodin to protect Auri. This is one of the only times him sticking his neck out for someone doesn't go bad. Elodin could have easily taken care of Kvothe and had him removed. But Elodin is in my opinion similar to Kvothe. That they both want to help people especially those who can't help themselves. And I really think this is why Elodin doesn't turn on Kvothe because they both are trying to help Auri. But we have also seen Elodin completely flip things on there side if he chooses. So it may very well come up again later in the 3rd book
Kvothe is a good character because he is in a lot of ways the child with a sword described in the beginning of the book by abenthy.
exactly. that child with a sword bit pretty much summarizes the whole trilogy, i'd be willing to bet
When he is with the Adem they say it’s like he stepped out of a fairytale. Yes, he did…because his story isn’t real.
Kvothe is his own worst enemy. He is the architect of his own demise over and over again. His character flaws destroy multiple promising futures for himself, and his blind spots leave him isolated.
The very same traits that he uses to survive also destroy his dreams.
It is a kind of inverse portrayal of the famous "with great power comes great responsibility" line.
He refuses, is too afraid, or doesn't know how to, take responsibility for his actions. He blunders forward confident he can bluff his way through life one step at a time. It often works in the short term, at the expense of the long term.
I have never had an issue with rude, arrogant, or maudlin characters, as long as they are well written, with reasons for why they are the way they are, and consequences for their actions.
For that reason, Kvothe never bothered me.
Excellent points. I agree with you well written characters, despite being rude or arrogant are still great characters.
Yes but accepting and building on any of these promising futures would stop him from being well him a hero a protagonist etc.
if at any time he chose to stop and build up his life he wouldnt be a hero or a legend
Yeah, exactly! He is like the most talented dude ever, but somehow he just fucks everything up for himself! Even before his talk with the chathe . . . . He realy does not need enemies, je can ruin his life all on his own ^^
An inversion means the opposite meaning it proves the opposite to be true his story sounds more like he's actually proving that saying right.
@@johnnydollar579 It's an inverse PORTRAYAL of the theme, not an inverse of the theme, itself. It is the same theme, but shown from the negative, from the tragic. It proves the theme correct, by showing what not to do.
After reading the "boy with big heart on quest to save X" fantasy trope so many times, a pompous bastard that is good at everything and whose ambitions are entirely self-centered is a nice change of pace.
Thanks for talking about it like this. It pisses me off when people say hes a Mary sue without ever considering the context of present day Kote and the failure of his life. Another great video dude. Keep it up! 😁
True, I guess some people look at all his natural gifts and immediatley presume Mary Sue, but interestingly he doesn't talk much of other subjects taught at the University outside of Sympathy, Sygaldry and Naming. For all we know he could be a terrble mathematician, but we don't know because he doesn't focus his story towards that stuff.
@@strictlyfantasy Exactly, he's retelling his life, its not like he's going to talk about all the stuff he is bad at.
My biggest problem with the Mary Sue argument is: their use of the definition of success. I actually see this story (so far) as hitting incredibly hard in most societies today; comparing it to your modern day celebrity.
You could easily look at A List celebrities as Mary Sues. But you would ignore their sacrifice...which I think is a critical error. And by sacrifice, I mean sacrificing something that others would use for their definition of success.
How much of a Mary Sue could a character be if they are inevitable to a tragic ending (referencing the Cthae Tree cover, which Fae plays use to signal a tragedy theme ).
I get why though, he is so talented is is annoying . . .but his ability to fuck everything up for himself dispite all of his talents makes him facinating
Thanks dude!!!
I see him as those 1 in 1000 people who are just very gifted. He has plenty of shortcomings that come with having such natural talent.
As for the name change, when battling forces that can overpower you by knowing your true name this may have been the only way to stop them. So he made a great sacrifice and lost everything that allowed him to be so arrogant. Would be a good conclusion to his character for me.
Good points. I recently read a theory that by changing his name, the Cthaeh might not be able to determine Kvothe's future anymore. Interesting to think about.
@@strictlyfantasy yeah. Another thing that I heard about was about the chandrian all talking to the Cthaeh. And them changing there names is what made them into the chandrien with there signs. And this would explain why each book begins and end with Kvothe talking about the silence. The 3rd silence witch is his specifically. It would explain why Bast is so afraid of that Silence. So afraid of it cause if anyone noticed it it would mark his master as a chandrien and make everyone want to kill him even more. My theory is there are the 7. He kills 1. Cinder and becomes the 7th when he changes his name. That skin walker specifically says something along the lines of asking weather he was a chandrien. There's really allot to point that kote may very well be one. His lock box may have taken something more than his name. It may have taken something much more important witch will kill him. effectively killing him and ending whatever influence he may have on the world. And if that's the case. He can't be a Mary sue. A man who literally becomes the monsters he is hunting. And kills himself to make sure he cant hurt those he cares about. But at the same time he's being extremely selfish. Because he can't face what hes done. Opening the door to the Fey. And letting the monsters loose on the world. Instead of facing it and stopping it.
From my understanding this is a prequel of the actual story. My guess is someone fighting the monsters of the fey and closing the door
I've just discovered these videos and have been pleasantly surprised by the quality of the analysis into the characters and story.
So my take on Kvothe
I have read a number of reviews where people comment on Kvothe being a Marty Sue and have wondered if they had read the same books as me, and of course he is now Kote, a man who used to be Kvothe, but is he no longer.
As Kote he constantly brings the readers attention to how he was arrogant and thoughtless as a teenager, but in context you can understand it, he lost his whole world as a young child, reduced to little more than an animal for so long when he rejoins society his moral compass is a bit off.
But still in his own words He "was proud as a kicked cat"
Kvothe was a child prodigy coming from a background of theatre and story telling, he enhanced his reputation, wanting people to pay attention to him, he is a little boy craving love and affection, but does not know what to do with it when it is offered, he truly is a tragic character. Proud, lonely, and scared of the (literal) demons from his past, he craves affection but fears telling the truth in case he is mocked. His relationships are short and shallow, but he agonises over Denna not understanding how much he feels for her, but in truth she is also damaged, their interactions are reminiscent of a courtly dance where neither dares be too informal for fear of offending the other.
You may have heard of me...while he is definitely a powerful character, Kvothe actually has many flaws. Your videos are great thanks for the Kingkiller content.
Thank you. I don't get why some readers dislike his character so much. I find Kvothe's exploits exciting tbh.
His ego can be frustrating sometimes bc it impacts a lot of his decisions, but that’s what makes him him. If you love the story and what Pat the author is creating, then you have to take Kvothes faults as part of it overall. He’s a fantastic character, even if he is not the most likeable guy sometimes. Hes a magician whos freaking eyes change color with his mood, what else do you need lol
One of my all-time favorite characters precisely for these reasons. His 'perfection' is the biggest myth about him - his flaws are the very thing that make him so lovable. Thanks for the great content.
The problem is less him beeing flawless but more him beeing perfect at everything . . . But for me it is canceled out by the fact thatmeven though he is good atmeverything, he still fucks everything he touches up in the end in the most spectacular and desastrous way possible. . . . Even befor his talk with the chathe
@@strictlyfantasy liking or disliking a character is purely subjective, but people calling him Gary Stue/Mary Sue are objectively wrong. Because Kvothe does not meet the criteria for being a Mary Sue. Thank you for taking time in examining his character.
Like my mother used to say... "smart but stupid"
This refers to the fact that a person may have a lot of skill and knowledge but still act foolish.
What about the,theory, that he toke Cinders place as a chandrian and his sign is silence . . . Would also explain the lack of music
I like your analysis a lot and I have no problem with Kvothe being so talented. The most annoying part is practically every female character having the hots for him. Makes me think the author was really unpopular with the girls in his youth.
Great video as always!! Thanks for such amazing content and please keep it up! I love Kvothe because of his smarts and wits but also because of how flawed he is, because it makes him three dimensional and is what in the end makes us connect with him.
I feel like him portrayed as the perfect being makes his eventual fall even greater.
That's what i keep saying!!! The fact that he's "perfect" will make him even more of a tragic figure!
He's not even portrayed as perfect.
His character is deeply flawed. He is arrogant, short-tempered and often woefully misjudges people. Even more, he's not the best in most of his skills. Devi has wiped the floor with him using her Alar and he was beaten up by a little Adem girl time and time again. Despite his time with Feluroan, he is still clueless about women in many aspects of relationships.
Speaking about relationships, do you remember Denna? Heck, she is Kvothe's greatest weakness, if there ever was one.
Kvothe does not meet the criteria for being a Marty Stue. People calling him that are objectively wrong. They may like or dislike him, sure. But calling him Marty Stue is a mistake.
Lol "objectively wrong" sure
I personally feel that Kvothe's love for Denna turns out to be his ultimate downfall.
Would not call it love but obcession . . .
@@SingingSealRiana why obcession?
I want to bring something up. Kote
I don't believe Kote is quite the broken shadow that most people believe him to be.
First off there is a small passage from the perspective of Graham that Kote, who had been there for a year, had been more lively seeming just a month before. His eyes, very important for Kvothe's temperament, were brighter. That as well as his hair.
I would assert that Kvothe is waiting for something as Kote. That Kvothe didn't change his name but rather altered it. Temporarily removed important aspects of it. It seems intentional that his name is the same thing but with letters removed. And as you noted Elodin told him how foolish it would be to CHANGE your name. But Kvothe, ever clever, might find another step in between changing and not changing. Make something that is the same, but different, reduced.
Kote is waiting for something here. In hiding. And in altering his name he limited his access to his music, and other skills, sympathy, swordsmanship, etc.
Kvothe has made a play. And to complete that play he had to become Kote. But those whom he plays against would note be fooled by a simple act or lie. He needed to make himself truly different. The loss of those things, mostly his music, has worn sorrowfully on him. He continuously becomes more drained of his old vigor. Not all at once as though some cataclysm occurred, but slowly as if sand through an hourglass.
For example: it MIGHT not be possible to track down Kote using Kvothe's blood if he truly altered or changed his name.
But that's just my thoughts on it.
kote is siaru for destruction? correct me if im wrong but is that not perhaps foretelling that the name in and of itself is that of a crucible? something that is meant to be destroyed? specifically in the act of creating something new? i really like your thoughts here, as an alteration of a name is very different than purely changing it. reminds me of the quote "there is nothing more difficult, than to lie about your own name, its not possible" forgive me if thats a mis quote but i feel it represents what was said. i almost feel as if him waiting to die is kote, and he is merely waiting to become kvothe again. might be what bast meant by remind him of who he was. might actually be hard to take on a new name, or return to an old one. this is something of a mystery that has yet to be explained. not to mention he is adema rue, an actor to the core. the inn is the current stage we are viewing, and the man we knew as kvothe has set it before us. i wouldnt be too surprised if we see a flourish when the action is brought to the waystone!!!! after all he is a thief and a liar. thanks for your comment as it excites me.
Bast also reflects that Kote's depression has gotten much worse recently.
Your videos are so amazing man! Love them and allways looking forward for next one!
Wouldn’t call Kvothe a “Mary sue”. He’s very gifted at music, but he was raised around it and taught from an early age by great musicians. He learns to fight with the Ademere but say his abilities aren’t much better than a young child by the time he leaves, according to them. His Alar is strong for his age but Devi’s is much stronger. I think Patrick does a great job of making him seem like a gifted young man but also showing many faults and mistakes he’s made along the way. ....Rey from Star Wars, that’s a classic Mary Sue. Lol.
Rey is just a female copy of luke, no more, no less . . .
Kvothe is a typical Jack of All Trades, master of... well, master of only music. Basically, he's a D&D bard. And there's nothing wrong with that.
@@FelineElaj he is like increadably talented in almost everything, just because a few still are better dies not mean his talent is not unusual . . . Remember how he decifered the extreamly hard to get writeing of the chronicler . . . That is more than a Jack of all trades which would mean he was medicore . . . Kvothe never did medicore . . .
@@SingingSealRiana being talented does not mean being Marty Stue, though. Many people in real life are very talented. We all know someone like this.
Additionally, high level of competence in a character is a well-established writing technique. Take James Bond, Conan or Roland Deschain. All of them are highly competent in almost everything they do. Reading about them is interesting not because we follow their growth, but because we follow how they overcome great odds.
Kvothe, in a sense, is an inversion of that "competent hero" archetype, because he fails repeatedly, his story culminating in an ultimate fall from grace, leading him to a humble life of a broken innkeeper waiting to die.
@@FelineElaj did not say heiß, just that I get why people come up with the comparisson, findhim boring or overpowered. A characterflaw also does not negate talent in my books, for the outcome yes but not in how I perceive the character and his overpowerdness...
Very well written man. I've loved the character from the very first read, and first now trough your work I understand that I identify with him so much not for his strengths but his flaws. I've been working on these flaws as of late and this told me more about myself than I've would have accepted not long ago in my life. I am self-sentered and already made this all about me so point in case but the argument I wanted to make was that this was very well deconstructed and executed from your side. That this resonated so much with me simply goes to show how well made it was. I wish you much success as a content-creator and thank you deeply for this!
Your videos are just so amazing . You absolutlly need more subs
Brilliant content 😃 😀 just subscribed. You made me want to read the two first books again before the stone doors comes out at long last...!😜
I think, Kvothe is a very well-thought-out Character. I appreciate the fact he is smart and for the most part, shows he is smart. Things may come easy to him but he has a lot of personality flaws. Anger, single-mindedness, rashness, His overall stubbornness. He can over thinks things at times and miss the obvious. And then there is his obsession with Denna to the point he can't see her flaws.
when it comes to Denna. Kvothe, swear her an oath on his power and his right hand to not look into her Patron, Yet a guessing that going to get thrown out the window at some point. ( I am only part way through the wise man's fear.) Which I am guessing could be why. in the present time at the Waystone Inn he seems to have lost his sympathy.
Anyways loved the video.
Man, your making me want to go back and read both books again...... there is so much I didn’t understand! Love these videos!
Even if he describes everything exactly as they went, Kvothe is a faaaaaaaaaar cry from being a Gary Stu. Being good at multiple stuff, doesn't make you flawless. We know from the moment we read the back of the book that he was gonna be a living legend. And he is. He is a prodigy, a Man born once in a billion. But he is a fucking moron too. He fails repeatedly, he is arrogant, overconfident,he is oblivious about the opposite sex and he ends up fucking up his whole life. Being a prodigy might get boring if you have an enemy or two, but when your enemy is the whole fucking world, it get's pretty damn engaging. He has to fight his low status, his poverty, and literal deities that --spoiler alert-- he doesn't win against. He is still low class, and his enemies are alive even after the end of the story. He is not a Gary Stu, he is just overpowered. He is a living legend, that's a prerequisite. A Gary Stu doesn't only refer to the talents of a character, and even if it did, Kvothe is outclassed repeatedly in tons of subjects.
The genious thing about Kvothe beeing way to good at everything is, that he totaly fucks up everything nevertheless. He has the talent to creat thevmost desasterous outcome even before he spoke with the chathe
Anyone hear on how Doors of Stone is coming along? I'm 85, I'll probably die before this comes out.
There's a rumor going around saying that it might come out this summer. Amazon leaked it kinda but again it's just a rumor.
Deafturtle thanks for the update!
Last I heard was potential in August this year
Someone asked 1 or 2 weeks ago if it will come out in 2020. Patrick replied "use your ****ing head". Dont think it's coming anytime soon unfortunately!
Amazon have a 2020 release date listed, but since there is no other source for this release date this is probably just a placeholder and will be updated when the release date is announced.
Kvothe is a SEVERELY flawed character. I don't understand the people who think he's a Gary Stu. They seem to be missing the forest for the trees, as it were. Great character study!
Thank you so much for sharing such an in-deprh analysis of Kvothe’s character. I can’t wait for the third book 📕
I loved this video so much! Thank you for all your hard work! I pray that Kvothe has a happy ending but doubt he will in book 3 😞
I don't mind Kvothe, but I really dislike Denna and his infatuation with her. I'm much more interested in someone like Devi.
Same, I'm really not a fan of Denna at all. She wasn't so bad while they were on the trip and killed the Draccus. I started to feel for her character when she's high on resin and actually starts to open up to him a bit but then as soon as he leaves her alone she vanishes and is hanging all over some other man. I'm really hoping she gets better in Wise Man's Fear, which I just started, but I feel like she will only get worse. The saddest part is he's still pining for her years later as Kote the innkeeper.
@@KHH595 I feel like WMF does her more justice as a character. For one, she obviously has a role to play besides simply being a love interest. But the book also both parallels and contrasts her with Kvothe. They both have deep, heavy secrets and they are both searching for answers to those secrets.
The difference is that Denna doesn't have access to the same kinds of ressources as Kvothe, which I think is what stumps most people since Kvothe virtually has nothing. You say she is 'hanging on some other man' but she is just trying to get by. Denna obviously doesn't have family and she doesn't seem to have friends. She wasn't blessed with a mind of ramstone steel and tutored by an arcanist. She could get a job or marry someone but then she wouldn't be able to travel and find her answers. She could be with Kvothe and they could help each other, but Kvothe is a bit if an emotionally stunted idiot who can barely manage to clothe himself. He can't even begin to explain to her why the hell he might be able to help and she doesn't know she can ask.
So yeah. Denna is complicated and Kvothe's obsession with her is very melodramatic and angsty. But I think it is to Rothfuss' credit that he has written a complicated female character who doesn't sacrifice her own agency, secrets or ambition simply because she also falls in love.
/end rant
That's the point, she feels she has to work for some patron to have the life-style she deserves without feeling she totally belongs to a man, and Kvothe knows it and he pretends not to own her, but to slowly approach her, but their relationship will be even more complicated due to Denna's song. I'm still more a Devi's fan, but Denna's got more mystery and the kind of things Kvothe is more likely to be attracted to.
I belive it's as intended. Denna is not supposed to be a character we love. She is a broken person with her own issues, just like Kvothe, in a sense. Their relationship is supposed to be dysfunctional and tragic. In some ways, Denna is Kvothe's greatest character flaw. I suspect his obsession with her will finally lead to his greatest failure.
Edit: spelling.
@@FelineElaj Actually, that is very accurate. Such a sad thing we are already expecting tragedy upon our hard loved characters
Thank you! We need more KKC videos like that
K I got some of my own Kvothe thoughts. Obviously Meluan Lackless is Kvothes aunt. Somehow in the ruins of Belen Kvothe finds evidence of the Lackless line being older than the line of Modeg. I’ve heard there is gonna be more Modeg in the third book. Somehow Kvothe is gonna end up king sacrifice himself to save his people I think his struggles with poverty his strong attachment to the common folk and his run ins with royalty spiking his wheel repeatedly sets up a perfect character to suddenly discover he is the king PERFECT. Don’t know the details obviously but possibly his mother had this in mind if she knew there is a door of stone on the Lackless estates she mentioned bedding down with a god the father could have been released from behind the doors of stone by Kvothes mom. Could be a melding of Fae royalty with Lackless blood?.. I cannot wait for Rothfuss to not do a George R R Martin on us.
I am as divided on Covth as I am the chronicles themselves, the narrative itself is compelling and ambitious, the protagonist complex, but maybe a tad too competent, though certainly not a Mary Sue.
I tend to conclude that the series itself is as spectacularly flawed as Covth himself. Bloated with Ego, yet still somehow enjoyable and relatable.
I think Covth speaks to our own self-image. We all want to appear competent, and intelligent. We all have our reasonings for why our performance and opinions are superior to all contemporaries.
I think history will show that book 2 should have spent more time setting up a conclusion and less time being softcore porn, but I hope the author surprises me and somehow tightly and satisfactorily wraps up the story in his third novel.
This is a beatifully made video. You're very eloquent and the concept for the video was well made. Good job :)
Kvothe is the man. I love his character and the way his world is built is amazing to me,
Excellent video, you need way more subs
The life story of Gary Stu
Nope. Just re-read.
Most amazing channel about The KingKiller Chronicle in youtube !
Keep the good work!
I always found Kvothe to be a deep and interesting characters, I also am one of those who believes 100% most if not all he is telling them in the books is true. However even prodigy's can burn..."icarus flying to close to the sun" he believes he can get him self out of anything and burns him self for it.
I deeply hope the series finally gets the ending it deserves though at this point as much as i love the series i am beginning to lose my faith and beginning to create my own theory on how it should end.
I love him and hate him all the same! Sometime you really feel for him and then other times you think he deserves what he gets. Mostly I am a fan.... moreso of present day Kote though :)
Same
I understand What you want to say but I feel like Kvothe is completly honest, even in his weaknesses and strengers, he admits hé is foolish etc but I guess it’s just a perspective
I love him and I don't really care what he is. Kovthe forever!
Love the video and your perspective on him. To me he is a mesmerizing, interesting, nuanced, empowering, inspiring and tragical… yes, at times he is wildly annoying and often seems to good to be true. But in my mind, it’s not impossible for such a character to exist - sure, it’s very rare, but I totally buy into the fact that he’s just that damn good at most anything he dedicates himself to. Rare yes, impossible no - interesting? To me, very much so!
One of my favorite characters ever. I think if you grew up really poor he's much more likable. I've noticed upper income people didn't like him as much and I think it's because the hardships don't translate.
I could not agree more, I started the series in my first year as a broke college student. Before I even graduated high school I had a full time job, and had to take a year off to get funds for schooling. Thus a story of a young man too clever for his own good trying to scrape by in a largely uncaring world was deeply relatable.
Excellent exegesis. Deep and rich. Very meaningful to me. Thank you 🙏🏽, -j
It is very intriging to read how he becomes the legend he will bee and wich part are true and wich parts are myth altough his real story might be more impressive becouse it shows all the pain and struggle he went through to gain knowledge skill and power
Kvothe grows up to become Kuwabara from YuYu Hakusho at 11:26
Good video tho.
He is exactly what a 5e Bard is in D&D
"upcoming" doors of stone novel I appreciate your optimism lol
I'm a fan, great insights!
Master Loren knows about Kvothes dad cannot wait for Loren to sit Kvothe down and give him the low down
amazing analysis
Great content. Really enjoyed it. Book 3 is coming this year. Can't wait anymore
Oh shit is that confirmed?
@@cloudbloom yeah
No, it's not. Check Rothfuss's channel.
He said if he knew of a release date, he would shout it over the roofs.
He was quite clear it wouldn't be in 2o2o.
I think the Inn Keeper betrays who he really was all along, and that the fanciful stories he told about himself are what drew the young fairy to him.
would you train under someone, and leave your whole world to follow a rumor? what is there to gain for a faen prince at the tutelage of a nobody. i think bast knows very well who kvothe is, just doesnt like the kote he has become. yet he is still learning from him. i think its all an act.
You mixed two seans. He takes a med that makes him not bleed for the whipping and earns him the name bloodless. He is just foolish in the library.
I don't see him as a Mary Sue. He might be exceptionally talented in many things but he still does have flaws and weaknesses, esp character wise. Most of all he is arrogant which in itself results in more flaws, he's overambitious, hotheaded, quick to overestimate himself, egoistic, can't often interpret a situation right etc. There are ppl in this world who are talented in many things and as long as a character is well written and not boring, why would it be a problem to have such a very talented person as your character? I find Kvothe to be very interesting and one of the reasons is because he is so talented and despite being so talented and intelligent he makes a lot of mistakes and fails.
I'm glad you included that pronouncation bit at the end lmao
Does this story every show him use swords or hand to hand combat and is it prominent or just like a one or few time thing?
Great video! Who thinks that he is a Mary Sue... Didn't understand Kvothe :)
9 years later still no Doors of Stone
A soulmate for grrm is found
I never saw Kvothe as a Mary Sue because he earns everything. He is good at Sympathy? Yeah because he started learning when he was young same with the music. He was trained b the best fighters. Rand Al Thor trained with Lan for a month, maybe two tops, between the end of the first book and the beginning of the second and at the end of book two he defeats a blademaster in single combat without using the power. Nobody ever calls hima Mary Sue... Also Kvothe is deeply flawed being good at a lot of thin s doesn't mean you have no flaws. He is highly skilled but his temper gets him into way too much trouble and excepting maybe living on the streets in Tarbean and his parents dying just about everything bad that happens to him is his fault lol. If he kept his mouth shut at the end of book two instead of mouthing of to The Maer's wife he would have had everything he wanted but no.
Finally! Someone have my theory, Kvothe change is true name. That explain not only the lack of skills, but WHY the chess not open to him. Even with the keys. Cuz the Third key is him, but he is no longer him.
PS: But what is inside? Maybe his name, like the moon? His "powers" like Taborlin the Great in the tale vs the Chandrian. Or something else?
Such a sad sad story
An alternate title could be Kvothe- the reason king killer is unreadable
great videos mate. are you planning on doing a full book summary anytime soon? :-) appreciate the work.. eagerly waiting for book three to be released.
The whole of his young life they were moving around the father would suddenly leave even when the troop was doing well. Kinda like he was on the run. Why do you think throughout the centuries the Ruh were hunted it sounds like someone knows in the Ruh there is a royal line to blot out cancelling a threat to their plan.
Question for the creator: are you from New Zealand? I'm not great at accents, (I'm from Texas and have only rarely traveled), so I'm only guessing based on my experience, but I have rarely heard your accent before so am very curious.
This is a great video, but I have a feeling we will never get the third book :(
Dont give up hope. One day we will get it. And it will be amazing
The 3rd book us scheduled to be released in August. You can preorder it on Book Depository ;)
Love him 😊
hope Kvoth goes on a rampage on a few ppl in the 3rd book
Kvothe is definitely not perfect. He's not very good with women, he's crappy with finances. He makes a lot of mistakes. And these mistakes are relatable and thats why he is such a great character.
Kvothe is a Mary Sue in his own story.
And we are still waiting for Doors of Stone in June 2020....
I might be remembering this wrong but doesn’t Kate mean failure ? Maybe it’s not his own failure but the failure of the ctheah which he has thwarted by changing his name.
Kvothe has lost his name, the real one, so he has no access to his own abilities. That's my theory, he did something he swore by the name he wasn't going to do and so let the powerful being he was
He wants to be forgotten
Kvothe will be healed from a flower from the Cthaeh tree.
3:03 He´s like us? REALLY? the guy who awoke musical talents since being a baby. The guy who accomplishes everything on his first attempt. The guy that wins some super important musical contest with an already difficult performance to pull off in the first place on his first try. That guy? He´s basically everything donald trump claims to be
Did we read the same book? Lmao
Before watching the rest of the video I am going to go ahead and say Kvothe is a good character because he *THINKS* he is perfect when he isnt. Yes he is good at everything he tries but he is stubborn as hell, arrogant, has the people skills of a toaster, is AWFUL with money and his prized possession (at one point I told myself if he lost his lute one more damn time I was going to quit), and most importantly he is a great story teller and liar. We all want to find out how much of his story is skill vs luck which at the end of the second book seems to me to be about 60/40.
Someone knows the art of the minute 9:40 and 9:53?
I love Kvothe.
When can we expect a stormlight video from you?
Awesom! realy good.Way give it that Not in german
A male Mary Sur is called a Gary Stu 😁
But he's not one. If you think so, just re-read.
Seriously, who's the first king he might kill?
Himself.
I think it might be Ambrose.
Ambrose or Ambrose’s father
Kinda wish Kvothe had a soul. Pretty cruel of Rothfuss to make him half ginger. At least he had the fae thing going for him..
Ps. I really dislike the red hair. It looks incredible on women. Not so much on men, esp.not.when man.in question is somewhat slender..in most art Kvothe is portrayed way too effeminate. Even in the anniversary edition. BTW the drawing of Denna in the anniversary edition is absolutely fantastic. And 1:1 with how I imagined her
I like kingkiller chronicles but in summary the plot does sound like the justification for a d&d character with all class features.
I did a character build for kvothe and it includes rogue, bard, and artificer levels. A very MAD build.
Doors of Stone Release date???
Adam last I heard was in august this year! Fingers crossed that’s true
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He's the idealized avatar of a highly narcissistic author
If his depressed in present day why is he telling the story as tho he is the most awesome thing ever, wouldn't he be more self deprecating?
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He’s a lot like Conan the Barbarian
it wasnt a group of seven demons that murdered his family and friends, but actually just one of them as leader to a few bandits, kvothe actually meets that same guy in 2nd book when he goes to the forest, right before he goes to that elf town thing
edit: not demons but very powerful and not for sure immortal creatures
Book 3 is here ??
I don't deny that Kvothe is a very deep character, but "Gary Stu" is a very broad description of a character and can describe a villain as well as a hero. In my opinion, a person's opinion of Kvothe and "The King Killer Chronicle" mostly depends on how invested they are while reading. Is the "depth" to the story there to help hide the flaws of a fairly superficial story, written by an inexperience author, or was everything skillfully crafted by a masterful yet inexperienced author? Or is it a mix of both? To me, people see what they want to see and headcanon what they want to headcanon, and they have every right to do so. Stories are personal and depend a lot on personal interpretation, and I think "The Kingkiller Chronicle" relies on this more than most stories.
kvothe isnt a mary sue.. he is highly skilled but THAT is his fault..
I love these videos, but is there a reason you're pronouncing the V in Kvothe as a W?
The pronunciation of his name is like quote
@@davemorgan5309 Patrick Rothfuss pronounces it Kv-oath.
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@@kevinbean7014 , seriously, who still cares about Rothfuss at this point?
I don't. The readers are as free as the writer. The story once expelled belongs to them.
Well, because while we can all interpret something like the pronunciation of a name the way that we would like, ultimately there is only one actual way of pronouncing it, and I would imagine the person from who's brain it sprung would be an authority on that pronunciation.