Steam Bending and Laminating Transom Knees! ***Episode 21***
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2021
- Episode 21
In this episode it's time to make a start on the next stage of the transom build, the Transom Knees.
I've decided to steam bend and laminate the knees using seasoned english oak boards.
So templating, setting up the steamer and selecting the boards is the first priority of this task.
Sometimes things go really well, sometimes they just don't!
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Thank you all for watching!
See you next time!
It’s coming along - keep at it and before you know it she’ll be afloat !!!
Hi Finn, I love your can do, will do attitude, each step bringing you closer to your set goal....
Eamonn
You admit to making a mistake and you're not in the habit of making them so you're allowed one every now and then.. also the work you've done is amazing especially when you're working a job and you're doing most of the work yourself with very little help.. great job
Outstanding sound track!
Enjoying your vids Finn. Keep em coming, I look forward to everyone.
Great video…awesome music……..keep up the good work …looking forward to the next episode
Cheers, Finn! Finally finished binge watching Leo and caught up, good to see ya!
YOUR VIDEOS ARE GETTING BETTER THAN LEO'S!!! He sort of stopped showing the work. Great video!
That steaming process looked great.
Great video Finn. I have steam bent quite a few parts. Some thicker like snow sled runners, and some thinner like guitar and bouzouki sides. I hope these become welcome suggestions.
First, when i make my formers I generate the former with more curve than necessary to allow for spring back. That is certainly more guess than science. Second, I allow the timbers to stay a couple of days in the former if I can to thoroughly cool down and dry. The thicker the wood the longer the stay. And third, I glue the pieces in the very former that they dried in.
On bigger projects that may mean that I need to make two or three formers so that they can really spend some time in them.
With all those provisions I will still get some failures. That is life and that is the nature of working with wood.
That all being said, couldn’t you simply make one more laminate on that particular knee? That seems like it would give you plenty of room for your pattern. For sure there will be some grain run-out but there will still be tremendous strength in that knee - and you will have three other knees within inches of that one. Seems like it should be plenty strong enough.
I really appreciate the videos and all of the effort you have put into this project. And as I said before, it was wonderful watching your skills and interest level devolve on the TH project. IMO you were instrumental in getting the ribs on in time and your leadership skill were apparent.
Best of Christmas wishes to you.
Happy solstice week !!!
Super skilled wood worker!
Unlucky fella. Top work ethic👌🏻. All the best and have a great Christmas 👍🏻
When you have finished steaming your wood you can make some moonshine 🥃
Thank you for this episode ! That's a great steam chamber you created, love it. I wish you perseverance and a healthy and prosperous 2022 ! Greetings,
Frank
Can I offer a bit of advice, I have been a Carpenter and spent many years forming timber starting from the age of 15, I am now 72 and for most of my adult life running my own business, so when consolidating the last form use the same jig / former as you used for the steam bending it will ensure they all end up the same, hope this helps. Great vlog, shall follow with intense interest.
Oh, I just realised I missed this episode. Strong decision to make. Hope you get to what you (k)need and are able to continue in your desired pace.
Thanks Finn. Great video. Learning a lot from you.
Enjoyed the music Finn. Great to watch your work as always.
Leo would be proud!!!
Hello Finn,
As Epictetus puts it, "It is not events that disturb people, it is their judgements concerning them."
You have faced earlier setbacks with fortitude & I could feel your disappointment when the second knee sprang back, however 2022 offers a fresh opportunity to move forward. To Epictetus, all external events are beyond our control; we should accept whatever happens calmly and dispassionately.
Yeah, right! Sometimes, it's better to let it out & have a damn fine rant & then restart the task in front of you. May you have a happier new year & good fortune to you.
I use a old band-saw blade with blocks on the ends putting this on the outside helps applying tension from the ends avoiding breakout in the center, give it a try brother works 100% of the time 4 me, my timbre is usually much thinner maybe 1 cm ish, should still work the same, a old guy taught me this 30 odd years ago, (if it aint bust dont fix it, lol) good look Fin,,xxBob&MrTao,xx
Happy Christmas
Merry Christmas!
What is really obvious is that you are doing quality work and are not prepared to cut corners. Another nice thing to see is that you have a number of people helping and if i am not mistaken your dad is often one of them. Definitely a good thing to see. All the best and have a good 2022.
I was surprised when you didnt laminate them right on the former.. with some plastic over it so they didnt glue together. Hard lessoned learned. One of the reasons I love your channel is that you are not afraid to own your mistakes. Thanks Finn; awesome stuff m8.
My first thought when I saw him laminating the first one.
I thought that too!
Laminating like this makes some really strong & beautiful parts, but I too have learned (the hard way) to expect some springback. The thicker each layer is, the more it springs back. I can see steaming makes a big difference, but doesn't completely eliminate it.
I really like watching you work with the tools & space available to us commoners, and still do high quality woodwork. Thanks Finn, Merry Christmas!
Yep--springback is real. I've been making bent shaft laminated canoe paddles for 2 years and that happened to my first shaft. I learned to apply the glue, re-clamp the shaft to the bending form and and let it cure for several days befroe removing. Love your work!
My thought also. It would leave a little internal tension in the glue up but should result in zero spring back. Springback is so unpredictable and hard to design for.
Congratulations. Great work and very entertaining
Great video! I admit I held my breath when you stood in front of the second knee when it was under tension from the comealong. If it had given way you'd have got a nasty blow in the breadbasket. Love the way you improvise and make do when you don't have all the resources available to some of the other more affluent TH-cam boatbuilders
Best wishes to you over Christmas & New Year.
Good luck finn on your wonderful journey
Great job ❤😆👍‼️
Maybe put them back in the bending jig when glued...IF you can get them to squeeze together tightly on it...It may keep the proper bend that way..
Bummer about the knee. Lesson learned. You'll get it next time. And maybe that knee can be used elsewhere in the future? Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and to all.
Great video. I respect you a lot for sharing your lesson learnt
You can rely on a Yert builder to have a great steaming set up.
Merry Chrimbo Finn
Your steamer setup is top notch for jobs that big! The fact it used to be a keg, is the icing on the cake. heh
Hi Finn. Just in case you are unaware, the epoxy can be heated to a point where it can be taken apart. If you put the knee back in the steam box it shouldn't take as long as all that to heat it with the steam to that point. Also, the oak can then be steamed again to be able to re bend it on the former. I hope you read this before you start making a new knee, you can sand the faces back a bit before re applying thickened epoxy.
I think there may be too much bend in the knee to fit back in the steam box😞
@@lemmy9996 but Finn could use a plastic bag for that which would be an interesting experiment. But perhaps that knee could be used in a different spot?
@@lemmy9996 Not an issue: bag it.
Very GOOD work Finn! Especially in the cold and damp of Winter. Your wood working skills are a treat to watch. You use the right tools and make useful forms etc. Happy Holidays. Rich
Very enjoyable episode Finn
Great music..😎
I love your vids. Am totally not into boats, but your work is fun to watch and you come across as very sympathetic 👍😎
Thanks, Finn. A really nice episode, very peaceful with the music. It nicely covered the screams and cursing when the second knee wouldn't fit...
I learned a lot. Have a wonderful Christmas!
Veeeeeeeeeeeeeery clever Finn. Good video. Lots of variety and progress.
Great video as usual.
Cheers and Merry Christmas,, 🍻🎅👍
Great work Finn!
Cheers Finn, for another great episode! Your camera angles and field of view give the feeling of actually being there. Fantastic music and the clear and honest narrative make your channel a joy to watch and one hell of an education. Thanks and Happy Christmas.
Nice work. Your steamer ROCKS! and I have to say: The music in this video was great: not quite the usual stuff on youtube - and still nice and generic enough to make a light layer in the video and be no distraction.
Merry Christmas!
I liked the sound track. It sounded like Zubot and Dawson with a slice of spain thrown in.
Lovely to see your work again.
Have a great new year.
Hi Finn - bummer with the second knee being out of spec! Take a deep breath and move on. Great to see you're still banging away at getting afloat. Happy Crimbo and stay safe. See you in 2022.
Spring back can be a real bummer. We generally place steam bent material in "resting" from to let it fully dry and set. This has helped keep spring back to a minimum. But it is not 100%, when steam bending you just never know. I've had some pieces that actually got tighter after steaming. I wish you better luck on your next attempt.
So many less than obvious issues to overcome and all on a damp earth floor ! As an electrician I have to hope you are using RCD's for your safety, it's wise to have that situation checked by someone who knows what they are doing ! Take care Finn !
Excellent choice of music in this one, one of the things that can really put me off watching a video is low quality rock or dance music played really loud so I'm constantly reaching for the volume control, nicely done !
Wow.. you glue it in the press.. you can see with your own eyes when timber widens up when you did release it after steaming it.
Great music to work in
Merry Christmas Finn. Have a good weekend and push on.
You do very fine videos
Merry Christmas Finn🎄⛄🎄 God Bless🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
Merry Christmas and Cheers from Sequim
Great work Finn if you lamoated on your form the spring back is not so bad just plaster the form with packing tape and it will not stick i think you have a great steam box there i hope to see it used more in future eposodes MV Joy-C
Thanks Finn! Have a gentle Christmas and a fantastic 2022.
And thanks for the music treat! Los Twangueros, huh? Definitely looking them up.
Onwards and upwards.
So many useful techniques and tricks in this video, especially liked the use of the come-along and the router sled. Further reinforcement of the old adage that you can never have too many clamps 🙂 Merry Christmas mate!
Dear Finn
👍👌👏 Very well done again and as always. I'm always impressed (and a little bit shocked) how much effort has to be put in restoring a boat. This time for instance making the template for the steam bended knees.
As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas time and a happy new year.
Best regards, luck and health to all of you.
Can you not just add an extra layer to fit the pattern? Great work, would love to visit the boatshed one day, looked you up, just darn rivva from my manor ;-) happy christmas, love the work, the thames will die without more like yerself.
This is what I thought of as well. Bend another layer onto the knee and cut off to get back to the pattern.
Another comment suggested you can get the epoxy to separate with more heat, so perhaps that will save all the wood.
Love your channel and your excellent craftsmanship. I'm wondering why you couldn't clamp it back onto the former after gluing and let it set up there.
Merry Christmas and a Happy new year Finn :)
👍!!!
Merry Christmas, Finn!
Merry Christmas Finn.
Skill, enthusiasm and determination - a winning combination. Well done.
Felt terrible watching you try to find a way to make the second form adhere to the jig; my stomach was in knots. Happy holidays, rest and enjoy yourself and let her go till next yearr(would be my advice.) You've done some amazing things Finn...cheers...rr Normandy, France
Thank you Richard, that’s a really warming comment. Don’t worry my stomach was in knots when I realised myself. But all good the process is all about learning and trialing! Well get there!
I wondered what the holes in the former were (before I knew it was a former!). Great stuff Finn. Happy Christmas.
Thanks for the video Finn. & a Merry Christmas to you!
oh and good music
Enjoyed the video BUT, there’s always a but. Lol. I’m curious as to why (I’m sure there was a good reason) you didn’t glue and clamp-up using the jig as well to help minimize the spring back? I thought maybe to avoid squeeze out binding the cured knee to the jig…but couldn’t you have solved that with a layer of wax paper or plastic film??? Merry Christmas to you as well, see you in the New Year.
You got a receipt for that keg😉
Well done. Sorry about the smell error, but you’d be a better man than most if you never made a n occasional mistake. Merry, merry. 🇨🇦🎄
Well done.. great use of B roll
B roll?
@@knotfinnishedyet9170 Footage shot that is going to be used for fill behind voice over, or general footage of an activity or subject that is more general in nature and does not have Face-To-Cam intent... so all the footage of you working a piece could be called B Roll... but you used interesting music and fast -fwd to not allow the video to drag... ;)
If it was easy, than it wouldn't be a challenge to overcome. Everybody would be doing it.
Great episode Finn well done. Happy Christmas and New year.
Great video Finn. We all goof sometimes but you'll get it right next time. Merry Christmas Finn and Family.
My brother-in-law is your doppelganger.
Happy christmas and a new year to you too, nice video.
Great content Finn!
Amazed at how good the episodes are getting.
Best wishes the holidays and 2022.
All the best, Finn, merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Good work and sorry the second knee didn't work out.
Hey Finn, why don't you just add one more plank to your knee? It surely wouldn't hurt the strength of the knee to be unsprung a bit.
Hi Finn, and hope you have a great Christmas. I admire the way you utilise the ratchet pulley and strap and other single handed aids. I also struggle with some tasks when working alone. Found car jacks and wedges a great help. Keep up the great work and looking forward to your progress. One day sailing to Australia?
Happy Christmas mate
Nicely done. Might it be advisable to wipe the white oak surfaces with acetone before applying epoxy to remove oils . etc, for better adhesion?
What a great Christmas present, cheers Finn, wishing you and your family the best.
Or you could just add another lamination to the outside of the curve and cut it out of that extra thickness.
thinner pieces( 1/2" ) would bend easier also,of course....Maybe stronger in the end also.
Great episode Finn! Can you salvage the piece by adding a lamination and cutting back through it or would that weaken it too much? Lots of undisturbed grain still.
Excellent work as usual, well done. Just a thought; would laminating an extra board on to the notrightyet one give you enough meat for the knee or would it look weird?
Problem is you will only be needing small slivers of the 4th board and those slivers could or can split from the other three later on quite easy.
Could the problem of small slivers not mitigated by adding a one inch board and have the template placed so that on both sides you have half inch at the end ?
Great job Finn, at the end you will have a beautiful boat!
I reckon so too
If done properly, he should be able to treat that as if it had always been a single piece of wood. No matter how small the single pieces of board are left.
good work mate from nz
Great process, well filmed, thank You for sharing! Those little hiccups while "changing procedures" are what we call "R&D" in our workshop. No advance in technology without a risk of unexpected outcomes. It's a pity You can not repair/reuse it now, but who knows when You will need a part in exactly that shape? (Usually right a week after You decided to finally not keeping that bloody space eater around any longer ... but that's a different story entirely)
Happy New Year Finn!!!
Excellent work sir! Keep it up. Why are you using conventional glue and not traditional joint compound?
These 21 episodes have flown by, already looking forward to the next instalment. Thanks for sharing the journey and especially for sharing when things don't go to plan. Marry Christmas Finn, and a Happy New Year
You need to allow for spring back, plus it help tremendously to glue up over your bending form.
Well its unfortunate the problem you had, keep the faith, if it was easy everone would be doing it! I have no doubt you will prevail! Looking forward to more videos. Thanks for sharing! Merry Christmas !!!
a very merry Xmas to you Finn, continue living my deam