Everybody. THIS IS HOW YOU DO A REVIEW! Most reviews on TH-cam are from completely clueless people who haven’t even tried the bag out in anything more than their back garden or a kiddy trail. Appreciate this video a lot man. Bag is right up my street. Thanks for making it known to me. All best from Scotland
I love mine, not sure why more people don't use it. I have taken it down to the 20s with either an xtherm max or a neoair xlite. I would definitely say the comfort rating is correct, below 23 is pushing it for this bag. Hood sinching isn't perfect but I agree, if you had the proper clothing, you won't be cold. Weight isn't the worst. I still use it for all my cold treks out here in CA.
I think it comes down to the weight, fixed sleeping position and fiddle factor. The Cloud's design is overall quite simple and has no zipper, yet still manages to weigh about the same as a normal sleeping bag. You still have to battle drafts similar with a quilt, so you don't get any of the actual pros when decding between a quilt (weight) and a sleeping bag (no drafts). The foot draft makes no sense to me, because that's the last place I want to vent in these temperatures and toes are usually pretty hard to keep warm. All that overlapping fabric adds weight.
Thanks for this review. I’m in the market for a quilt and this brought something different to my attention. Excellent review btw. Great detail. Thanks!
It’s actually quite nice. It’s not for me as I love my Bandit, the draft collar and having my head fully outside. With regard to the sleeping orientation, they’ve done their research, I’m impressed. I read an medical article a few years ago and apparently when you sleep on your right side your blocking something important. My memory betrays me as to exactly what but it was enough for me to have very rare done it since. If you move around a lot in your sleep it’s not a problem.
lying on your left side lets gravity push waste through the colon system apparently this is better for us as the body is not symetrical internally! I am just an ordinary bloke, and no legal representation will be entered into, the same goes for my dog!! You are responsible for what you believe, and if you wish accuracy, Donald trump on wickipediatatrics is the place to go! 🙃🙃
I have this bag and I just "rotate" from the left facing to my stomach and then to the right facing which keeps the "quilt" tucked in. Love this bag, was just in it this weekend in Grayson Highlands VA.
Excellent review! So helpful that you went over all the pros/cons in tremendous DETAIL. Bonus points for testing it out in extreme cold conditions. Thanks for all the great info! Happy Trails! 🏕🤠👍
This is just a hybrid of their backcountry bed and a mummy. I much prefer the former, but they only make it in 700fill and a little heavier materials. If they could put in better down and these lighter fabrics, I would buy one in a heartbeat, in fact prob two or three. I have the original b-bed and the revised one. As well as the duo version for when im with the gf. They are hands down my favorite way to sleep while backpacking, a quilt comes close but its night and day compared to horrible mummies which i refuse to ever use again unless its just bonkers cold which I rarely ever experience. But when on more weight conscious hikes, I sadly have to swap to one of my quilts, which are great for warmer weather, but as it gets cooler are more draft prone obviously.
Great review, thanks! I already own the women's Cloud 800 20-degree, but I have been using it with a rectangular 72x20 pad. I'm looking to upgrade to a mummy-shaped Thermarest instead, and the customer service folks at Sierra Designs recommended against using a curved pad since the bag was designed for rectangular. But I notice that you're using a curved pad! Have you had any issues with things moving around? Is your Thermarest the 20-inch version? Thanks. :)
I don't think it would, the sleeve seems designed for a 20-inch pad. There is a little wiggle room depending on how thick the pad is of course, but I doubt there's that much wiggle room.
Awesome review! Does the regular version definitely not fit a 25 inch pad? I’ve seen reviews that say it does? I’m 5’10 so would rather get the regular
First version of the Sierra Designs High Route 1FL. The newer 2020 iteration has a smaller inner tent. You can’t get this one anymore except if you can find old stock.
Everybody. THIS IS HOW YOU DO A REVIEW! Most reviews on TH-cam are from completely clueless people who haven’t even tried the bag out in anything more than their back garden or a kiddy trail. Appreciate this video a lot man. Bag is right up my street. Thanks for making it known to me. All best from Scotland
Pay attention guys n gals, THIS guy know how to test gear, because he actually USES it a LOT. Great video man, highly appreciate it. :)
Thank you for the kind words!
@@HikingNerd WELL deserved! :)
Thanks for including the °C temps! Really helpful review 👌
Great video. You actually talk about the things people want to know with this quilt, like side sleeping on the opposite side etc.
Great content. First time viewer, SUBSCRIBED.
I love mine, not sure why more people don't use it. I have taken it down to the 20s with either an xtherm max or a neoair xlite. I would definitely say the comfort rating is correct, below 23 is pushing it for this bag. Hood sinching isn't perfect but I agree, if you had the proper clothing, you won't be cold. Weight isn't the worst. I still use it for all my cold treks out here in CA.
I think it comes down to the weight, fixed sleeping position and fiddle factor. The Cloud's design is overall quite simple and has no zipper, yet still manages to weigh about the same as a normal sleeping bag. You still have to battle drafts similar with a quilt, so you don't get any of the actual pros when decding between a quilt (weight) and a sleeping bag (no drafts). The foot draft makes no sense to me, because that's the last place I want to vent in these temperatures and toes are usually pretty hard to keep warm. All that overlapping fabric adds weight.
Thanks for this review. I’m in the market for a quilt and this brought something different to my attention. Excellent review btw. Great detail. Thanks!
Very interesting design . . . I love the Pad Sleeve. Thanks for your review!
really in depth clear review! loved it, keep up the good work!
Looks super comfy. Great detailed review.
Thank you! I might get this for my mom.
Love your honesty, I've been following you for a few years
I appreciate the kind words, John.
Thanks for being so detailed and thorough. :-)
It’s actually quite nice. It’s not for me as I love my Bandit, the draft collar and having my head fully outside.
With regard to the sleeping orientation, they’ve done their research, I’m impressed. I read an medical article a few years ago and apparently when you sleep on your right side your blocking something important. My memory betrays me as to exactly what but it was enough for me to have very rare done it since. If you move around a lot in your sleep it’s not a problem.
lying on your left side lets gravity push waste through the colon system apparently this is better for us as the body is not symetrical internally!
I am just an ordinary bloke, and no legal representation will be entered into, the same goes for my dog!! You are responsible for what you believe, and if you wish accuracy, Donald trump on wickipediatatrics is the place to go! 🙃🙃
Looks super cozy. Although not being able to switch sides and keep it tucked in would be a bummer
I have this bag and I just "rotate" from the left facing to my stomach and then to the right facing which keeps the "quilt" tucked in. Love this bag, was just in it this weekend in Grayson Highlands VA.
EXCELLENT REVIEW THANK YOU, NEW SUB!
Great video, good detail with pros and cons. Thanks
Great review, thank you😊
Best bag review I ever heard, tks
Awesome review..!! Loaded with information
I just used the Nitro Quilt for 5 months. I just wished it was a bit larger as to wrap around my body more. I want to try this one now.
Really nice review. Thanks!
Excellent review! So helpful that you went over all the pros/cons in tremendous DETAIL. Bonus points for testing it out in extreme cold conditions.
Thanks for all the great info!
Happy Trails! 🏕🤠👍
Excellent video and information.
I had the Cloud (large) but had to send it back. I’m 6’2” and 285 and it was just too small. Just FYI if you’re a larger guy.
Thanks for the intel!
I’m 6’2 and 200 and fits me perfectly
This is just a hybrid of their backcountry bed and a mummy. I much prefer the former, but they only make it in 700fill and a little heavier materials. If they could put in better down and these lighter fabrics, I would buy one in a heartbeat, in fact prob two or three. I have the original b-bed and the revised one. As well as the duo version for when im with the gf. They are hands down my favorite way to sleep while backpacking, a quilt comes close but its night and day compared to horrible mummies which i refuse to ever use again unless its just bonkers cold which I rarely ever experience. But when on more weight conscious hikes, I sadly have to swap to one of my quilts, which are great for warmer weather, but as it gets cooler are more draft prone obviously.
Bought it--love it.
Very thorough 👍🏽
Great review!
Nice video - I like your attention to details 😊🇩🇰
Sold! 😁
Great review, thanks! I already own the women's Cloud 800 20-degree, but I have been using it with a rectangular 72x20 pad. I'm looking to upgrade to a mummy-shaped Thermarest instead, and the customer service folks at Sierra Designs recommended against using a curved pad since the bag was designed for rectangular. But I notice that you're using a curved pad! Have you had any issues with things moving around? Is your Thermarest the 20-inch version? Thanks. :)
No issues for me!
@@HikingNerd Sweet, thank you!
I wonder if this would fit over a Nemor Tensor wide? 🤔
I don't think it would, the sleeve seems designed for a 20-inch pad. There is a little wiggle room depending on how thick the pad is of course, but I doubt there's that much wiggle room.
The Large size bag accommodates a 25” wide 2.5” thick pad
I own the quilt version of this thing.
Good job
Awesome review! Does the regular version definitely not fit a 25 inch pad? I’ve seen reviews that say it does? I’m 5’10 so would rather get the regular
I was wondering the same. Did you find out..?
@@ukpipeline The regular does not fit my wide 25 inch pad, the long does, now im torn on whether or not to keep the long as im only 5 ft10
Subscribed . Awesome review. I am looking to order this bag. I’m slightly under 6’ and around 225lbs should the regular size be suitable for me?
Thanks. I would consider sizing up for sure
Nice review. New subscriber here. Have your views on this quilt changed since giving this review? Do you still use this? Thanks again.
Still the same!
Great review 👍 What's the "inner-tent" shown at 5:40?
First version of the Sierra Designs High Route 1FL. The newer 2020 iteration has a smaller inner tent. You can’t get this one anymore except if you can find old stock.
damn, i'm a right side sleeper...
excuse me my good man, what tent is in the shot at 1:00 ?
NEMO Dragonfly 2p
I have the nemo disco 30°f bag, perfect for my sleeping style