Ron, love the content. I'm in a 12 team (4 max) keeper league that made an offseason switch to superflex. I have the 1.01, and keepers of kupp (2nd), waller (6th) lawrence (10). Should I take Henry or Cook at 1.01 and hope to get carr/cousins at the 3.01, or take Murray at 1.01 and then someone like a Montgomery, Etienne, dillon or jacobs at 3.01?
This method has won me many leagues for years. There’s nothing better than having anchor RBS on your teams and looking for breakout receivers in the later rounds. Much easier to find an elite receiver than an elite rb in the late game.
I like Hero/Anchor RB the most. You can make the same argument about finding high output RBs late. We had multiple guys last year. Penny, Singletary, C patt, Fournette, Conner, E. Mitchel.. Then the handcuffs who we know will get you 12-20 pts after their startrer went down. Chubba, D'ernest, Booker ect. You put these guys on teams that went WR and TE strong and you have monster. Both ways can work for sure.
To me it's about how much the "talent" falls off in the running back position. It's a much steeper fall off for running back position than it is in wide receiver. So, if you can get two high ranked rbs, it completely makes sense. In my keeper league, the top rb scored 190 more points than the 10th rb. The top wr scored 140 more points than the 10th wr. 50 points which is about 3 points a game. Doesn't sound like a lot, but over 3wrs and 2rbs starting out adds up.
in 2023 RB are going down left n right =/ dobbins and chubb ... this strategy works if ur RB doesnt get hurt because of scarce thin RB position but if ur RB gets hurt u are doomed.
ETN is going to be a Deebo Samuels type player this year and he likely won't last to round 4 in most leagues come September. Robinson had the injury too late last season for him to be effective or efficient for quite a while.
The Wrs are so so so so deep, it only makes sense to get your starting rb's early, which is how ive played for about 20 years now...but makes more and more sense with less RB's that are bellcows, and the depth of the wr's
I've been playing fantasy football since '93, when we had to get an actual newspaper in our league to figure out the scores, and this is always my main strategy year after year. WR's keep getting pushed up in drafts, and I keep taking RB's, and having a lot of success doing it.
@@fredbarriskell6578 I fought against PPR or even half being the standard for years, I just didn't want to change I guess, but now I feel like .5 should be standard, like you said.
Agreed. It is a solid strategy but years ago we saw a lot of committee situations start to change some peoples' drafting strategy. I still draft RB, RB but we don't have as many true workhorses like we had way back when. When you have a WR like Cooper Kupp go crazy, especially in PPR leagues and a first round RB ends up being a bust, it causes more people to go WR in the first and/or second round. I'm glad that those guys take those WR's and sometimes QB's, etc. because it usually leaves decent RB's for my first two RB picks.
Would love to see some stats on how the strategy did by draft spot. My initial hypothesis would be it gets better results from 1.1-1.3 compared to the back of the order.
In the "what is double hero rb" section when the chart is up you can see the success rate at the top of the chart by draft position. It worked best Picks 8-12
Taken 2 RBs in a row every year I drafted (I think, unless I for some strange reason decided to take a WR in round 2). Love the strat. Definitely the play.
Yep, have used this strat forever to great success. I love it when my league mates take WR/TE in R1/2. I typically take 2 RB, then load up with 3-4 WR and maybe TE if it feels like a good value. Take QB late (used to always get Stafford lol) then last rounds just load up on flyer RBs.
I had JT, Ekeler, Herbert, and Jefferson in an 8 team league last year. Everyone in my league kept saying that JT would lose time to Hines and that Ekeler would get hurt so they avoided them. I drafted them 1st and 2nd round and then Jefferson came back to me in the 3rd. Won the league easily.
I find your content to be the most accurate. You don’t beat around the bush and try to inform people of the same thing. I see year after year analyst try to tell you this way is the best and any other way won’t win you your league. A lot is just go off your gut. I personally like the hero RB strategy but there’s sooo much luck involved. Staying up to date on waivers and injuries is huge. Can’t just draft and sit back lol. Thanks again
Quality stuff man. If I may put my 2 cents in, I feel it’s worth noting that over the past several years, 68% of the top 12 RB finishers drafted outside the top 25 overall were drafted in rds 3-8. I’m a double tap RB drafter myself, but I personally can’t ignore those critical rds when looking for potential league winning value at the RB position. Rds 9-12, the goldmine potential drops to around 14%. Keep up the good work!
Hmm, so you're saying 68% outside of round 1 & 2. With 14% of that in 9-12. So 54% of them found in the 60 picks of rounds 3-8 and 46% of them found in the 24 picks of rounds 1 & 2. With a made up estimate of 40% of the picks in those rounds being RB that would give you the same hit rate basically. But I think the key point to his video is also the floor of those picks in round 3-8 vs 1-2. Because your league winner might be a 5th round Jamaar Chase or Brandin Cooks or Mike Williams or Deebo Samuel ect ect next year. So with the same success rate for hits in top 12, but a much safer floor to still support a championship team that is carried by a breakout WR that seems to be where the double hero strat's advantage lays.
Last year I went double wide out and had davante and stefon, and still ended up with mixon and J-Rob. Lucky waiver pickup led to fournette for the second half of the year💰
I went triple wideout with Mike Evans, Deandre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill and Tyler Lockett, and got Mixon and Cordarelle Patterson, I also got Gronk and traded for Kelce, I would have won it all if Kelce and hill didn’t get Covid in the semi finals
this has been my strategy this year.. not really because i prefer it but because that's how i feel about the value in the first 2 rounds. with so many top WRs having sketchier situations this year i feel more comfortable with the top RBs.
In my 10 man, i got cook and Saquon. 3rd got mark andrews. And then went 5 WR, tee higgins, g. Davis, j. Jeudy, b. Cooks, and Hollywood brown. 1 week in, it's feeling pretty good. Tee higgins injury prevents that wr1 upside, but I feel so deep at wr and really relying on that "if your RB goes down, it's going to suck anyways". The strategy breakdowns for draft season made me feel super prepared. Thanks for the advice over the summer.
I’ll take 3 straight rbs. Good way to have insurance for a rb injury and if no one is injured then you can trade. High round rbs have high trade value. You can easily get a nice wr and one of those later round rbs in a package
What I’m doing this year is grabbing RBs for pick 1 and 2 WR 3 and 4 TE for round 5 and then I’ll grab up my QB at 6. From there it usually depends what the draft flow is, if guys are already picking D/ST or not.
Team 8 has a pretty good draft strategy. Grabbed a stud RB in the 1st but could even be in the 2nd then stack top WR, QB, and TE the next 4 or so rounds. That way you don’t have any weakness except your RB2. Which can easily be replaced off waivers. Penny went off, Pollard can easily go off with a aging slower Zeke, etc…
The RB position has changed. Teams are going by committee for the majority. On top of that you have injuries plague RBs, aging RBs, and seems like you can get a WR that can put up the same points as a RB as their floor.
@@fredtaylor1205 you can easily find wrs #1 in the rounds 4 and beyond. Can't say the same for rbs. I draft 3 rbs every year in the first 4 rounds and always finish at the top of my league full ppr
Feel like my roster always looks something like this in mocks. Two RBs at the top, and then just smash the draft button WRs throughout the draft, although I have been routinely taking one deadzone RB as a backup.
The best strategy is robust RB. 3 RB in first 4 rounds. Kupp and Chase were coming off in the 3/4th last year. If your team starts 3 RB 1 WR Anchor QB with the first 5 rounds, you’re in a great place to win a chip
I bucked the trend...in a 14 team ppr league. I had pick 7... I went wr,wr,wr Adams, Jefferson,kupp because people are hell bent on rbs (take what the draft gives you). Then I took Herbert round 4 and Andrews round 5, hunt round 6, Damien Harris round 7, picked up Patterson off the waivers and elijah mitchell.Again depending on your scoring settings a top tier QB gives you consistently 25 to 30 pts (I need that). You can wait on a QB but I rather not. I don't do QB carousels during the season. I set and forget and free up a roster spot. Why have two qbs when defenses cant touch them? Which means they won't get hurt often. Also good qbs get rid of the ball quick and they don't try to extend plays. Needless to say I had a successful yr. Study for the backend of draft ladies and gents. You will have a hell of roster turnover after your first 6 picks. So hit late
I have been doing this forever.... best by and even regular redraft and it works great. at times if the RB all go in the every pick in first pick then I have split with WR and RB in the 1st and 2nd round. I seldom finish under 4th place in 12 team leagues, I got 4 good ones and 2 back up RBs this is BB... WR guys with 100 targets are pretty easy to find. I like to get a late Draft RB around 2nd to the last round
I’ve always used this strategy to anchor my team, WRs even the best talents have chances to bust on a game to game basis, RBs are just too valuable. Whenever an elite WR talent falls to me, I’m still reluctant to take them in the first two (and often don’t) in favor of an RB
@@influencedmindset I only go RB RB in the first 2 rounds (I've never taken a WR in the first 2 rounds EVER) and I've won about 65% of my leagues. I've been playing fantasy about 5 years, and have been in about 12 leagues (all money leagues so they're competitive.) I've also never come in worse than 4th place (usually injuries if I came in that low) and I've won 7 of them. I also came in first place in 3 best ball leagues last year, and 2nd place in 2 of them out of about 7 of them.
All these advance rates are real and awesome to go through. I think its worth noting it's also very player specific. The double RB smashed last year because JT was going in the 2nd. Plenty of Round1 RBs disappointed. Him and Najee in the 2nd was huge tough. NOT saying this won't work again or people shouldn't try it. Just something to keep in mind.
I agree. Tried to touch on that a little before going into the drafts. I actually think because those first 6 RBs were so bad last year there's maybe even room to grow. This strategy smashed but was only viable at the 1/2 turn, if you can do this with CMC/JT plus a stud RB at the 2/3 turn aswell as having the 1/2 turn being useful there's room to grow. But ofc the same can be said for all strategies, Hero RB gets a boost if those first 6 RBs perform
Love it, this has been my strategy for YEARS, I just always saw more value in Rbs cause for the most part there is only 32 starters , yet there are a decent 62 receivers who can point every week
There actually isn’t nearly 32 “starting RB’s” w how many committees there are And w RB if u guess the wrong starter in unclear backfields u prob have a complete dud.
@@tylerdack1545 I 100% agree. It’s typically my go to strategy. I was giving an example of a weird outlier league I was in that led me to go away from it. Everyone was going RB crazy. I still drafted Michael Carter and Melvin Gordon late so I had an above average team even before those pickups. My WR’s were Adams, Diggs, Evans, and Lamb (can’t remember if I had Waller or Kittle in that one). U can win w mediocre RBs w that. I don’t advocate this strategy, but if everyone in ur league is going crazy at RB u also can’t reach for a RB that shouldn’t be getting drafted in that round. That’s my only point
@@abarkins fair enough ! Too many people get attached to players as well, needs create value , I’ve sold off a RB for way more than he’s worth just cause they were desperate for RB
Yo Ron. Great video bro. What are your thoughts on Dalvin this year? Feel like he had some bad TD luck last year. I feel like he is a good value if he can stay healthy.
Good stuff man… agree with most of what you said. That team you drafted where you got Lamb in the 3rd??? Hopkins and zeke went before em… that must’ve been a home league 😂
basic math from those legendary numbers state you should take a WR in round 1, then follow up with RB RB in 2 and 3. That would give you the most % chance to hit a legendary whilst still only drafting 2 RB's.
Watches video as guy that drafted JT and Ek and lost in round two… ouch haha. Also had diggs, chase and Pittman(keeper league though) team was a monster.
I'm in a league that's format is qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 flex which I feel is the most beneficial set up to have a lot of good rbs, I feel like rounds 1-2 is best to get rbs then at least 1 more through the 3rd and 7th rounds in that format
Rbs in the 5-10 rds can provide great depth and maybe a diamond in the rough. 12 team 1/2 ppr 1 keeper. Keep Connor in the 10th or Jefferson at the 1-8 ?
I took Henry, Jones and Connor(flex) in the first 4 rounds. Still got Evans, marquise brown, Mooney, Moore (all wr1 for their team) waddle and Pickens in the later rounds. The receivers are much deeper later in the draft than the RB.
Best ball data doesn’t account for the fact that rbs are some of the better available options on the waiver wire throughout the season. WR is not great on waivers so stacking elite wr early with 1 elite rb is better imo. More upside due to the way post draft acquisition workout
What league do you play in? RBs are impossible to find in redrafts. Unless you mean if you get lucky and find the 1 or rarely 2 studs that happen every year at random. Which is true, but finding next year's Mitchell and CPat means it doesn't matter what strategy you use because you've got the fantasy luck that year and will win (beyond just horrible management or injury luck)
Crazy thing is I drafted Ekeler at the 1.07 and Taylor at 2.04 in a 10 man last year and lost in the chip cuz I traded Taylor like week 6 😑. I won in 2020 wit kamara tho!
yes the legendary numbers don't shine light on the 90-95% chance of NOT getting a legendary. But you still need to take the chance. There could very well be RB's in rounds 2 and 3 that go nuts.. like dobbins or montgomery... we wont know until the season starts.
Hey. I have 10th overall but because of keepers I get 2nd and 3rd of who wasn’t kept. Jefferson will be taken 1st and I choose from these guys. but then I don’t have another pick for like 20 picks. Lamb, Mixon, Harris, Barkley, AJones, Swift, Fournette, Kelce, Evans, JWilliams
This strategy only works if you don’t have a middle round pick. Even then my strategy for a 10 team PPR this season is Wr Wr Wr/ Te Te/Wr QB/Rb then Rb from there and 1 Wr where I see fit. Can’t pass on cooper or Jefferson. All star 4 receivers essentially and then take handcuff rbs and late round lead backs. WRs less likely to be hurt I prefer this strategy that I crafted while studying for the season. Obviously you aren’t doing this with 1-2 picks MAYBE 3rd overall.
So I used this for my draft had to pivot tho and draft a qb early they were sliding off the board. My team ended up looking pretty crazy outside of my rb depth
This is pretty much what I did at 1.02 so glad I found this vid I took taylor and chubb, but javonte was also there in round 3 so had to take him, and took james robinson in like round 17 QB- stafford mac jones WR- i have 10, but top 5 were diontae johnson, Hunter renefrow, russel gage, tyler lockett, jakobi meyers TE- kittle, Geisicke
I like guys like Travis Etienne and AJ Dillion and they are going in the 4th and 5th rounds most of the time. So it's bad process to go after those guys then?
I’m in my first fantasy with my buddies there’s 8 of us. I got last pick in the draft so I said screw a qb. Drafted JT and jamarr chase first round and 2nd then kelce 3rd pick and picked up Herbert as my qb 4th pick. With saints def. got henery on 5th pick because everyone was scared of injury. It’s been 3 days since we drafted and now I have josh Allen and patty as back up. JT and henery as rb, chase,kupp and adams as wr, kelce at TE and saints def with Tennessee kicker. I’m feeling good dammit. 😂
@@lamThinker yeah everyone picked a qb but me. My plan was if I get 7th or 8th pick which I got 8th and since it’s snake draft ima get a rb and jamarr lol. My team is stacked I feel like but I’ve never done fantasy. Weaseled my way into some amazing trades too.
Keeping Najee in the 2nd round and D Schultz in the last round as my keepers. Figured go rb in the first and then load up on wr in 3, 4, and maybe 5. Qb in 6th or 7th and go from there.
Is this full PPR best ball data though? Just curious because i haven't done RB/RB in a decade and in brutally tough leagues I'm always in playoffs at least and have 3 wins over recent years playing 2 leagues a year. Just curious since these monster WR are having huge 7 catch floors without a yard or TD counted yet. Granted good backs get catches too but the league is specialized more and more every year at RB and throwing more and more each year?
If I’m reading this correctly it sounds like this strategy wasn’t as good for teams drafting at the beginning of round 1 right? But it worked ideally for teams drafting at the end of round 1?
I have pick 12 in a 12 man league It seems like deandre swift and stefon diggs will fall to me for my back to back picks. Should I go Stefon there? Or go the next best RB available? Because Josh jacobs is there in the 3rd and he doesn’t seem that bad.
I've always gone with 0 rb. Top tier wide receivers have a floor that is so clutch especially since rb bust so easily. Adams and Diggs/Dhop has won me 4 championships in the pas 5 years.
@@brucewayne6077 10th pick 10 team. Davante, Lamb, A.J Brown, Chubb, Etienne are my main core. I also have Michael Thomas, Dhop, Arob, and Hunt. One of them is gonna hit and I'll have crazy trade value.
I had the top 3 rbs last year and still lost week 1 in the playoffs due to burrow and chase going off and those rbs being on pitch counts due to them going into the playoffs🤦🏻♂️
yeah dude Zero RB never made sense to me. I’m always on this side of the fence if at all possible, but I understand if people are in a handful of leagues and just picking based on true value how Zero RB is necessary in some situations
Yeah I don’t do zero RB but last year in my biggest league I didn’t pick a RB until round 7 in a 3 WR league. Everyone was reaching for RBs so hard and I kept getting sniped a pick early before a massive tier drop off. I’m not picking Gaskin over Ceedee Lamb (my 4th best/Flex WR)…ect. I did pick up Mitchell before week 1 and used my waiver on Patterson and would’ve won if Bears D didn’t put up 30 in the Ship. I prefer to go RB early, but my main strategy is BPA. If my league is gonna overdraft in one direction, I’m getting value in the opposite.
Zero RB isn't something you should go in looking to do, but if the circumstances are right it can be the best strategy to employ. Better to take a higher value WR in my opinion than reach for an RB that shouldn't be taken there.
My two keepers are JT and CMC. Im having a huge problem deciding to dominate flex, grab an elite TE, or snatch the best WR avail. A lot of my league mates prioritize QB so on top of that value, there are still guys like Diggs, Kelce, Ekeler, and Jefferson (me as 4th pick)
I like the idea of this strategy but I would say it is very risky to wait that long to take a 3rd or 4th RB. I say this because RB is usually a highly injury prone position due to the beatings they take every week. In this strategy, if you lose one of your top 2 dawgs its going to hurt your team pretty bad. Id prefer to get at least a 3rd RB with a lot of opportunity in their offense such as a breece hall or montgomery just so I can withstand an injury. I can always take shots on a WR later in a good position such as drake london to make up for it.
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Does your approach change in a double flex .5 per league? Are you prioritizing Rb's vs WR's in those slots?
Ron, love the content. I'm in a 12 team (4 max) keeper league that made an offseason switch to superflex. I have the 1.01, and keepers of kupp (2nd), waller (6th) lawrence (10).
Should I take Henry or Cook at 1.01 and hope to get carr/cousins at the 3.01, or take Murray at 1.01 and then someone like a Montgomery, Etienne, dillon or jacobs at 3.01?
This method has won me many leagues for years. There’s nothing better than having anchor RBS on your teams and looking for breakout receivers in the later rounds. Much easier to find an elite receiver than an elite rb in the late game.
I like Hero/Anchor RB the most.
You can make the same argument about finding high output RBs late. We had multiple guys last year. Penny, Singletary, C patt, Fournette, Conner, E. Mitchel..
Then the handcuffs who we know will get you 12-20 pts after their startrer went down. Chubba, D'ernest, Booker ect. You put these guys on teams that went WR and TE strong and you have monster.
Both ways can work for sure.
@@Kyles_Money Yeah I agree. Id say S Tier is Hero RB. A Tier is Zero RB and Double Hero RB for me
To me it's about how much the "talent" falls off in the running back position. It's a much steeper fall off for running back position than it is in wide receiver. So, if you can get two high ranked rbs, it completely makes sense. In my keeper league, the top rb scored 190 more points than the 10th rb. The top wr scored 140 more points than the 10th wr. 50 points which is about 3 points a game. Doesn't sound like a lot, but over 3wrs and 2rbs starting out adds up.
Where is the fall off?
in 2023 RB are going down left n right =/ dobbins and chubb ...
this strategy works if ur RB doesnt get hurt because of scarce thin RB position
but if ur RB gets hurt u are doomed.
I for sure acknowledge that the RB dead zone is real, but damn its hard to pass on etienne in round 4
ETN is going to be a Deebo Samuels type player this year and he likely won't last to round 4 in most leagues come September. Robinson had the injury too late last season for him to be effective or efficient for quite a while.
@@br3ndan245 James Robinson is not playing this year
@@jrob6226 i agree honestly i changed my mind these last few days i watched one of his college highlights and was blown away lmao
Right!
@@bballerjrod4 hes practicing now. Def is playing at some point jus dk how productive hel be coming off injury
The Wrs are so so so so deep, it only makes sense to get your starting rb's early, which is how ive played for about 20 years now...but makes more and more sense with less RB's that are bellcows, and the depth of the wr's
I've been playing fantasy football since '93, when we had to get an actual newspaper in our league to figure out the scores, and this is always my main strategy year after year. WR's keep getting pushed up in drafts, and I keep taking RB's, and having a lot of success doing it.
It's because PPR became the standard. Now I think it's balanced out to where .5 ppr should be the standard.
@@fredbarriskell6578 I fought against PPR or even half being the standard for years, I just didn't want to change I guess, but now I feel like .5 should be standard, like you said.
I was born in ‘96… will u sir be my fantasy football mentor??
Agreed. It is a solid strategy but years ago we saw a lot of committee situations start to change some peoples' drafting strategy. I still draft RB, RB but we don't have as many true workhorses like we had way back when. When you have a WR like Cooper Kupp go crazy, especially in PPR leagues and a first round RB ends up being a bust, it causes more people to go WR in the first and/or second round. I'm glad that those guys take those WR's and sometimes QB's, etc. because it usually leaves decent RB's for my first two RB picks.
Would love to see some stats on how the strategy did by draft spot. My initial hypothesis would be it gets better results from 1.1-1.3 compared to the back of the order.
Great caveat. Need this. Could just be possible drafting at the turn it’s better
In the "what is double hero rb" section when the chart is up you can see the success rate at the top of the chart by draft position. It worked best Picks 8-12
Taken 2 RBs in a row every year I drafted (I think, unless I for some strange reason decided to take a WR in round 2). Love the strat. Definitely the play.
Yep, have used this strat forever to great success. I love it when my league mates take WR/TE in R1/2. I typically take 2 RB, then load up with 3-4 WR and maybe TE if it feels like a good value. Take QB late (used to always get Stafford lol) then last rounds just load up on flyer RBs.
I had JT, Ekeler, Herbert, and Jefferson in an 8 team league last year. Everyone in my league kept saying that JT would lose time to Hines and that Ekeler would get hurt so they avoided them. I drafted them 1st and 2nd round and then Jefferson came back to me in the 3rd. Won the league easily.
Whose your favorite rbs this year 😂
i got jt and ekeler first two rounds in a 12 man ppr last year and ended up trading Jt for deebo before week 1 even started😂
I had JT, ekeler, davante adams, kupp, jefferson in an 8 man money league 😂😂
went 12-1-1 and won the chip
@@monkeyman7347 sheeeeesh. That's a nasty draft 😂
I find your content to be the most accurate. You don’t beat around the bush and try to inform people of the same thing. I see year after year analyst try to tell you this way is the best and any other way won’t win you your league. A lot is just go off your gut. I personally like the hero RB strategy but there’s sooo much luck involved. Staying up to date on waivers and injuries is huge. Can’t just draft and sit back lol. Thanks again
Quality stuff man. If I may put my 2 cents in, I feel it’s worth noting that over the past several years, 68% of the top 12 RB finishers drafted outside the top 25 overall were drafted in rds 3-8. I’m a double tap RB drafter myself, but I personally can’t ignore those critical rds when looking for potential league winning value at the RB position. Rds 9-12, the goldmine potential drops to around 14%.
Keep up the good work!
Hmm, so you're saying 68% outside of round 1 & 2. With 14% of that in 9-12. So 54% of them found in the 60 picks of rounds 3-8 and 46% of them found in the 24 picks of rounds 1 & 2. With a made up estimate of 40% of the picks in those rounds being RB that would give you the same hit rate basically.
But I think the key point to his video is also the floor of those picks in round 3-8 vs 1-2. Because your league winner might be a 5th round Jamaar Chase or Brandin Cooks or Mike Williams or Deebo Samuel ect ect next year.
So with the same success rate for hits in top 12, but a much safer floor to still support a championship team that is carried by a breakout WR that seems to be where the double hero strat's advantage lays.
This is my draft strategy every year unless an elite receiver falls to me where the value is too good to pass on.
If Kelce falls to the end of the 2nd that value is too good to pass on as well.
I like the way you think
This ☝️
@@BaylonTV no chance that happens
diggs?
Last year I went double wide out and had davante and stefon, and still ended up with mixon and J-Rob. Lucky waiver pickup led to fournette for the second half of the year💰
I went triple wideout with Mike Evans, Deandre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill and Tyler Lockett, and got Mixon and Cordarelle Patterson, I also got Gronk and traded for Kelce, I would have won it all if Kelce and hill didn’t get Covid in the semi finals
this has been my strategy this year.. not really because i prefer it but because that's how i feel about the value in the first 2 rounds. with so many top WRs having sketchier situations this year i feel more comfortable with the top RBs.
I agree unless I can snag Kupp/J Jeff/Chase
@@RonStewart_ agreed
In my 10 man, i got cook and Saquon. 3rd got mark andrews. And then went 5 WR, tee higgins, g. Davis, j. Jeudy, b. Cooks, and Hollywood brown. 1 week in, it's feeling pretty good. Tee higgins injury prevents that wr1 upside, but I feel so deep at wr and really relying on that "if your RB goes down, it's going to suck anyways". The strategy breakdowns for draft season made me feel super prepared. Thanks for the advice over the summer.
Rd 1-2 rbs.
Rd 3-4-5-6 wr
Rd 7-8-9 qb, te, rb, wr
Rd 10-11-12 wr, rb, wr/rb
Rd 13-14 qb, wr/te/rb
Rest is up to you
I'd say leave a space in t Round 3-6 for a QB or TE, depending on your league mates you can get a real value on them
I agree try an grab a top TE Rnd 3 or even 2 and swap for Rb Rnd 3 and grab a dual threat QB in my eyes is a league winner
@@sttoney07 that's too rich for my blood. Unless I'm on autopick
I’ll take 3 straight rbs. Good way to have insurance for a rb injury and if no one is injured then you can trade. High round rbs have high trade value. You can easily get a nice wr and one of those later round rbs in a package
What I’m doing this year is grabbing RBs for pick 1 and 2 WR 3 and 4 TE for round 5 and then I’ll grab up my QB at 6. From there it usually depends what the draft flow is, if guys are already picking D/ST or not.
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Well laid out bro, good vid. This has been my strategy since I got into redraft in 2012
Amazing analysis and reasoning. Top 5 fantasy videos ive seen
10 year fantasy vet. And I learned a lot from this vid. Thanks
Excellent video, Ron. Very informative and very well explained.
Appreciate it Joe. I know you're a harsh critic so means a lot
@@RonStewart_ Not too harsh, I hope. 😃
Team 8 has a pretty good draft strategy. Grabbed a stud RB in the 1st but could even be in the 2nd then stack top WR, QB, and TE the next 4 or so rounds. That way you don’t have any weakness except your RB2. Which can easily be replaced off waivers. Penny went off, Pollard can easily go off with a aging slower Zeke, etc…
False rbs get hurt more than any other position and there’s only a few workhorse rbs. Having a weak rb2 is not good
That’s my strategy going into this years draft. Been able to snag Elijah Mitchell, miles sanders or Kareem hunt in rounds 6-7
The RB position has changed. Teams are going by committee for the majority. On top of that you have injuries plague RBs, aging RBs, and seems like you can get a WR that can put up the same points as a RB as their floor.
@@fredtaylor1205 you can easily find wrs #1 in the rounds 4 and beyond. Can't say the same for rbs. I draft 3 rbs every year in the first 4 rounds and always finish at the top of my league full ppr
So you’re saying the WRs in rounds 1-4 are the same as rounds 5 and beyond?! Agree to disagree cuz there’s no way that’s the case.
Feel like my roster always looks something like this in mocks. Two RBs at the top, and then just smash the draft button WRs throughout the draft, although I have been routinely taking one deadzone RB as a backup.
The best strategy is robust RB. 3 RB in first 4 rounds. Kupp and Chase were coming off in the 3/4th last year. If your team starts 3 RB 1 WR Anchor QB with the first 5 rounds, you’re in a great place to win a chip
Qb round 5 is bad
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I like the d'ernest johnson pick last with the pick up of hunt incase there's a trade that goes down
Most of my best seasons ever had back to back RBs like Jamal Charles and CJ2K
I bucked the trend...in a 14 team ppr league. I had pick 7... I went wr,wr,wr Adams, Jefferson,kupp because people are hell bent on rbs (take what the draft gives you). Then I took Herbert round 4 and Andrews round 5, hunt round 6, Damien Harris round 7, picked up Patterson off the waivers and elijah mitchell.Again depending on your scoring settings a top tier QB gives you consistently 25 to 30 pts (I need that). You can wait on a QB but I rather not. I don't do QB carousels during the season. I set and forget and free up a roster spot. Why have two qbs when defenses cant touch them? Which means they won't get hurt often. Also good qbs get rid of the ball quick and they don't try to extend plays. Needless to say I had a successful yr. Study for the backend of draft ladies and gents. You will have a hell of roster turnover after your first 6 picks. So hit late
Shoutout for the Chance intro song
Ppl love to hate on it but shits a classic lmao
Instead of Saqoun I would have much rather had Kamara, Fournette, Javonte, or even Chubb. But I love the strat
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@@IlluminAlec hindsight is always 20 20
@@97.0TheDon just yankin ur chain bro
Love how in the first FantasyPros mock the 1.05 spot had a similar strategy and got the way better team
Cant wait to get into fantasy this year
Good stuff Ron, this content is 🔥
Thanks king
Good video Ronald
I have been doing this forever.... best by and even regular redraft and it works great. at times if the RB all go in the every pick in first pick then I have split with WR and RB in the 1st and 2nd round. I seldom finish under 4th place in 12 team leagues, I got 4 good ones and 2 back up RBs this is BB... WR guys with 100 targets are pretty easy to find. I like to get a late Draft RB around 2nd to the last round
I’ve always used this strategy to anchor my team, WRs even the best talents have chances to bust on a game to game basis, RBs are just too valuable. Whenever an elite WR talent falls to me, I’m still reluctant to take them in the first two (and often don’t) in favor of an RB
@@influencedmindset I only go RB RB in the first 2 rounds (I've never taken a WR in the first 2 rounds EVER) and I've won about 65% of my leagues. I've been playing fantasy about 5 years, and have been in about 12 leagues (all money leagues so they're competitive.) I've also never come in worse than 4th place (usually injuries if I came in that low) and I've won 7 of them. I also came in first place in 3 best ball leagues last year, and 2nd place in 2 of them out of about 7 of them.
All these advance rates are real and awesome to go through.
I think its worth noting it's also very player specific. The double RB smashed last year because JT was going in the 2nd. Plenty of Round1 RBs disappointed. Him and Najee in the 2nd was huge tough.
NOT saying this won't work again or people shouldn't try it. Just something to keep in mind.
I agree. Tried to touch on that a little before going into the drafts. I actually think because those first 6 RBs were so bad last year there's maybe even room to grow. This strategy smashed but was only viable at the 1/2 turn, if you can do this with CMC/JT plus a stud RB at the 2/3 turn aswell as having the 1/2 turn being useful there's room to grow. But ofc the same can be said for all strategies, Hero RB gets a boost if those first 6 RBs perform
Also got Harris in the 8th who pointed over 200, and penny was the RB1 the last 5 weeks of the season
Love it, this has been my strategy for YEARS, I just always saw more value in Rbs cause for the most part there is only 32 starters , yet there are a decent 62 receivers who can point every week
There actually isn’t nearly 32 “starting RB’s” w how many committees there are
And w RB if u guess the wrong starter in unclear backfields u prob have a complete dud.
@@abarkins which is exactly why RBs hold more value ….
@@tylerdack1545 I 100% agree. It’s typically my go to strategy. I was giving an example of a weird outlier league I was in that led me to go away from it. Everyone was going RB crazy. I still drafted Michael Carter and Melvin Gordon late so I had an above average team even before those pickups. My WR’s were Adams, Diggs, Evans, and Lamb (can’t remember if I had Waller or Kittle in that one). U can win w mediocre RBs w that.
I don’t advocate this strategy, but if everyone in ur league is going crazy at RB u also can’t reach for a RB that shouldn’t be getting drafted in that round. That’s my only point
@@abarkins fair enough ! Too many people get attached to players as well, needs create value , I’ve sold off a RB for way more than he’s worth just cause they were desperate for RB
@@tylerdack1545 exactly. The 1/2 RB strategy only works if the RBs u get have a 1st and 2nd round value
Ended up going 3 RB to start seemed like best value available got tee higgins and Michael Pittman as my WR1-2 with dionte johnson and some flyers
Went Ekeler Swift then Aaron jones and got Dillon late too
Love that you have a past example of success. Don't see that often
Yo Ron. Great video bro. What are your thoughts on Dalvin this year? Feel like he had some bad TD luck last year. I feel like he is a good value if he can stay healthy.
Dalvin stumps me man. I dont love him, would prefer swift/najee. Think hes fine if you can get him in the late 1st
Good stuff man… agree with most of what you said. That team you drafted where you got Lamb in the 3rd??? Hopkins and zeke went before em… that must’ve been a home league 😂
I agree with this but this year I actually was able to grab Kupp, Fournette, and then Aaron Jones. Couldn’t believe it
basic math from those legendary numbers state you should take a WR in round 1, then follow up with RB RB in 2 and 3. That would give you the most % chance to hit a legendary whilst still only drafting 2 RB's.
Watches video as guy that drafted JT and Ek and lost in round two… ouch haha. Also had diggs, chase and Pittman(keeper league though) team was a monster.
man playoffs can be brutal
I'm in a league that's format is qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 flex which I feel is the most beneficial set up to have a lot of good rbs, I feel like rounds 1-2 is best to get rbs then at least 1 more through the 3rd and 7th rounds in that format
Rbs in the 5-10 rds can provide great depth and maybe a diamond in the rough. 12 team 1/2 ppr 1 keeper. Keep Connor in the 10th or Jefferson at the 1-8 ?
So can those WRs though. Deebo, Chase, Brandin Cooks ect from last year.
I took Henry, Jones and Connor(flex) in the first 4 rounds. Still got Evans, marquise brown, Mooney, Moore (all wr1 for their team) waddle and Pickens in the later rounds. The receivers are much deeper later in the draft than the RB.
Best ball data doesn’t account for the fact that rbs are some of the better available options on the waiver wire throughout the season. WR is not great on waivers so stacking elite wr early with 1 elite rb is better imo. More upside due to the way post draft acquisition workout
What league do you play in? RBs are impossible to find in redrafts.
Unless you mean if you get lucky and find the 1 or rarely 2 studs that happen every year at random. Which is true, but finding next year's Mitchell and CPat means it doesn't matter what strategy you use because you've got the fantasy luck that year and will win (beyond just horrible management or injury luck)
I would love to see a superflex redraft using this strategy.
Might branch out, we'll see
@@RonStewart_ SF is the future im hoping you do!
I'm thinking QB RB RB QB might yield similar results in SF.
@@randypage26 the only way i can see it working out for you really
I Believe I'm going the route
1.01--J.T. (R B)
2.10-B.Hall. ( RB)
3.01-J.Alenn. (QB). 5 pts throwing TD
Crazy thing is I drafted Ekeler at the 1.07 and Taylor at 2.04 in a 10 man last year and lost in the chip cuz I traded Taylor like week 6 😑. I won in 2020 wit kamara tho!
I had 4th pick and took Eckler, then Barley, then late took hunt and carter
This season is different way more question marks on rbs than ever before, also not much separation after top 2,3 rbs.
That and the fact that the top WRs all stand to have even better seasons than last year
yes the legendary numbers don't shine light on the 90-95% chance of NOT getting a legendary. But you still need to take the chance. There could very well be RB's in rounds 2 and 3 that go nuts.. like dobbins or montgomery... we wont know until the season starts.
@@33awesomeman33 neither of those guys going in 2nd or 3rd lol
@@xonakillstrk2442 You're right. they're going even later. Thanks for making my point even better.
I had Henry and Taylor on a team together last year. I was undefeated until Henry got injured lol
i got taylor jones and barkley for a flex idk if drafting 3 right away will pay off ik you say never to draft rbs in the third but the value was there
Love the Chance intro.. got my sub. 👍🏻
Hey. I have 10th overall but because of keepers I get 2nd and 3rd of who wasn’t kept. Jefferson will be taken 1st and I choose from these guys. but then I don’t have another pick for like 20 picks.
Lamb,
Mixon,
Harris,
Barkley,
AJones,
Swift,
Fournette,
Kelce,
Evans,
JWilliams
Just subbed 👍🏽🔥
love to see it
This strategy only works if you don’t have a middle round pick. Even then my strategy for a 10 team PPR this season is Wr Wr Wr/ Te Te/Wr QB/Rb then Rb from there and 1 Wr where I see fit. Can’t pass on cooper or Jefferson. All star 4 receivers essentially and then take handcuff rbs and late round lead backs. WRs less likely to be hurt I prefer this strategy that I crafted while studying for the season. Obviously you aren’t doing this with 1-2 picks MAYBE 3rd overall.
So I used this for my draft had to pivot tho and draft a qb early they were sliding off the board. My team ended up looking pretty crazy outside of my rb depth
I won last year with JT Najee Mitchell Jacobs and pollard so yeah this works
This is pretty much what I did at 1.02 so glad I found this vid
I took taylor and chubb, but javonte was also there in round 3 so had to take him, and took james robinson in like round 17
QB- stafford mac jones
WR- i have 10, but top 5 were diontae johnson, Hunter renefrow, russel gage, tyler lockett, jakobi meyers
TE- kittle, Geisicke
I like guys like Travis Etienne and AJ Dillion and they are going in the 4th and 5th rounds most of the time. So it's bad process to go after those guys then?
Just have to do it strategically, think they make sense if you have enough WRs and want to take a detour
I’m in my first fantasy with my buddies there’s 8 of us. I got last pick in the draft so I said screw a qb. Drafted JT and jamarr chase first round and 2nd then kelce 3rd pick and picked up Herbert as my qb 4th pick. With saints def. got henery on 5th pick because everyone was scared of injury. It’s been 3 days since we drafted and now I have josh Allen and patty as back up. JT and henery as rb, chase,kupp and adams as wr, kelce at TE and saints def with Tennessee kicker. I’m feeling good dammit. 😂
You got JT with the last pick of the 1st round? Tf
@@lamThinker yeah everyone picked a qb but me. My plan was if I get 7th or 8th pick which I got 8th and since it’s snake draft ima get a rb and jamarr lol. My team is stacked I feel like but I’ve never done fantasy. Weaseled my way into some amazing trades too.
What if a rb in the deadzone falls way below his expdcted draft position... is it reasonable to be flexible and snag him?
yes unless he'd be on your bench
My god I haven’t heard that song in so long
What do you think about using this strategy in Superflex?
What type of strategy would you use in a 2 QB 10 team (non SF) league?
I went Jefferson at 1.03.. ended up with D. Swift and Zeke so I'm ok with it. 10 team
Pat Kerrane's Legendary RB article: www.nbcsportsedge.com/article/numbers/early-round-rbs-need-legendary-upside
my league recently switched to a super flex. sucks everyone taking all the good qb early makes it hard to draft
Keeping Najee in the 2nd round and D Schultz in the last round as my keepers. Figured go rb in the first and then load up on wr in 3, 4, and maybe 5. Qb in 6th or 7th and go from there.
Should you try and force it ven if you have a really good valued pick for a wr, or should you more go with the flow of the draft
Go with the flow, RBS are valued more
If going 2 rbs with first 2 picks, who’s 2 guys we should be using there???
So are you taking Mixon and Swift over two out of Davanta Deebo or Diggs
Also found it funny I was drafting a team watching this video and also grabbed mixon and swift haha. Pick 12 in a bestball draft
Would you also recommend this strat for Superflex leagues?
Underdog doesn’t have any mock draft options? Besides sleeper where do you recommend for mocks
Best available won me both my leagues last year
I won my league with this same strategy with Taylor and Harris on the 1-12/2-1
Is this full PPR best ball data though? Just curious because i haven't done RB/RB in a decade and in brutally tough leagues I'm always in playoffs at least and have 3 wins over recent years playing 2 leagues a year. Just curious since these monster WR are having huge 7 catch floors without a yard or TD counted yet. Granted good backs get catches too but the league is specialized more and more every year at RB and throwing more and more each year?
What do you think of going RB RB QB to get Allen
What if you start with like Ekeler and Swift and 3rd round A Jones is still available do you go 3 RBs or just pick best WR available?
If I’m reading this correctly it sounds like this strategy wasn’t as good for teams drafting at the beginning of round 1 right? But it worked ideally for teams drafting at the end of round 1?
I took Cook and Mixon this year, then didn't touch another RB till round 7 in AJ Dillon. Would that count?
Triple hero wr won me the championship last year, plus kyler and burrow at the eoy
I have pick 12 in a 12 man league
It seems like deandre swift and stefon diggs will fall to me for my back to back picks.
Should I go Stefon there? Or go the next best RB available? Because Josh jacobs is there in the 3rd and he doesn’t seem that bad.
I've always gone with 0 rb. Top tier wide receivers have a floor that is so clutch especially since rb bust so easily. Adams and Diggs/Dhop has won me 4 championships in the pas 5 years.
Have you drafted yet? If so what’s your team lookin like? I wanted to run 0 rn strategy aswell
@@brucewayne6077 10th pick 10 team. Davante, Lamb, A.J Brown, Chubb, Etienne are my main core. I also have Michael Thomas, Dhop, Arob, and Hunt. One of them is gonna hit and I'll have crazy trade value.
I pull a 3rd RB if I’m early in the third and to tear wr’s are gone. So much value in round 4-8 at wr.
I had the top 3 rbs last year and still lost week 1 in the playoffs due to burrow and chase going off and those rbs being on pitch counts due to them going into the playoffs🤦🏻♂️
I have a keeper league that i am going to use this strategy in, going to keep a rb and then draft 2 hero rbs in the top 2 picks
We are doing a 8 team, 2 QB, REST is normal, PPR LEAGUE 😁
yeah dude Zero RB never made sense to me. I’m always on this side of the fence if at all possible, but I understand if people are in a handful of leagues and just picking based on true value how Zero RB is necessary in some situations
Yeah I don’t do zero RB but last year in my biggest league I didn’t pick a RB until round 7 in a 3 WR league. Everyone was reaching for RBs so hard and I kept getting sniped a pick early before a massive tier drop off. I’m not picking Gaskin over Ceedee Lamb (my 4th best/Flex WR)…ect.
I did pick up Mitchell before week 1 and used my waiver on Patterson and would’ve won if Bears D didn’t put up 30 in the Ship.
I prefer to go RB early, but my main strategy is BPA. If my league is gonna overdraft in one direction, I’m getting value in the opposite.
Zero RB isn't something you should go in looking to do, but if the circumstances are right it can be the best strategy to employ. Better to take a higher value WR in my opinion than reach for an RB that shouldn't be taken there.
Ok let’s hear full PPR
Yo bro Im in a keeper league that does auction draft. I kept jonathan taylor at $36. Should I spend big on mcaffrey or ekler?
My two keepers are JT and CMC. Im having a huge problem deciding to dominate flex, grab an elite TE, or snatch the best WR avail. A lot of my league mates prioritize QB so on top of that value, there are still guys like Diggs, Kelce, Ekeler, and Jefferson (me as 4th pick)
Jefferson
I like the idea of this strategy but I would say it is very risky to wait that long to take a 3rd or 4th RB. I say this because RB is usually a highly injury prone position due to the beatings they take every week. In this strategy, if you lose one of your top 2 dawgs its going to hurt your team pretty bad. Id prefer to get at least a 3rd RB with a lot of opportunity in their offense such as a breece hall or montgomery just so I can withstand an injury. I can always take shots on a WR later in a good position such as drake london to make up for it.
I love trading for some of the dead zone RBs early to mid season. Usually it's slow starters or rookies