I think this is the year of double hero RB. Top-heavy RBs in a relative wasteland with immense WR, QB, and (comparably to recent years) TE depth. I know the Underdog data doesn’t corroborate but I genuinely feel comfortable starting guys around WR40, for example
Bro I’m thinking the same thing It’s been so easy to draft for example Bijan n Taylor Taylor n Gibbs Also I have a underdog team Breece Taylor n Kyren How can you not love that team
@@K0rbendal1as yeah man that roster is nice. I snagged Bijan and Gibbs in my dynasty startup, rest of my team is still pretty solid. Sometimes you gotta zig where they zag Auction draft btw
Tend to go zero rb strategy last couple of seasons and it’s worked out well for me. Main reason is just due to the likelihood that all rbs on average miss more games than WRs due to injury. I made playoffs in 6/8 and finals in 4/8. Having a variety of different players. Most common theme: Drafted WR heavy Took value at rb ( 1 in top 6 rounds) Got an elite top 5 rushing QB Grabbed a top 3 TE everywhere I could. (Granted Laporta blew that up)
I certainly agree with this. Drafting a running QB is paramount in a Zero RB scheme because he can make up for some of the rushing production that you cede by not taking RBs early (if the QB has 800-1,000 yard rushing upside, that will be pure golden). Your strategy is good because you have to find ways to make up for the disadvantage that you'll have at the RB position -- so you have to hit on the other positions and take a rushing QB.
What the video analysis fails to consider and why it’s wrong, is that you can’t look at season long ppg. For example, you go zero RB and get someone like ford or moss or whatever backup. They carried your team when they were starting but they didn’t start all year so their ppg wasn’t that high. When you punt RB in the draft you ideally have strong RBs come season end.
This year, I'm am not going to risk going RB in the first round, outside of CMC and HALL. I'm going to go WR, and then HERO RB in the second round with a work horse. I would be fine if my RB was Saquon, Pacheco or Henry.
It really depends on where you’re drafting in round 1. Early picks are premium WR. Later Round 1 I’ll take Hero RB all day. CMC,Hall,Taylor and Barkley don’t have a 1b hand cuff, Robinson does.
I think nathan is right tho abt the rpund 2 rbs. Looking at the charts rd 1 wr + rd 2 rb = 34.66 pts whereas round 1 rb + rb 2 wr =32.91 pts. I also think the rd 2 rbs might have better name value drafting a saquon in the best situation of his career instead of a guy like olave who has yet to show much imo
Question: the RB points per game that you showed for 2021-23 and for just 2023 are the same numbers (rounded to a different decimal point), so are those numbers actually from 2021-23 or just 2023?
My favorite tool, especially helpful in startups, is the WoRP (Wins over Replacement) tool on Dynasty Daddy. Because I play in many leagues that use different scoring, TEP, PPC, PFFD, etc. I used to have to crunch all the numbers in my head. Now the WoRP tool on Dynasty Daddy does all that work for you, and shows you positional values in that league broken down by that specific league's scoring. Very handy!!
I have the 3rd pick in my big money league coming up. My mindset is Hero RB with Breece or Bijon falling to me. I mocked the hell out of this pick position and it's definitely the proper strategy.
Drafted double hero RB the last two seasons with great success. Last year I drafted CMC then Chubb. When Chubb got injured I was able to pick up Kyren Williams off waivers. This year, I will definitely draft CMC round 1 and Kyren round 2 if the opportunity presents itself.
I mean that's a flawed chart. You're not looking at the players in that draft. If 1 player was drafted in round 10 and he averaged 10 points vs 3 rbs drafted in round 4 with a mixed bag of avg points like 9 points csn you really say round 10 was better than rd 4? You need to look deeper not just face value
I think Derrick Henry in the 2nd round is gonna be a steal! He'll finish this season as a Top 3 RB with that B-More offense if everyone remains healthy.
I’ve been playing for 6 years now. I always go Hero RB. I made playoffs every year other than my first year. Been to 3 championships. Last year I had 2nd pick took CMC and I didn’t take my next RB till Monty which was 6th round. I definitely wouldn’t reach for a RB but I love to anchor my team with RB so I don’t have to worry about my top player. That’s barring any injuries.
Agreed. Hero RB is a strong strat IF you get a hero RB. Last year, IMO there was only 1 Hero RB. So it was either CMC or go a different route. This year, there are at least 2 Hero RB. CMC and Breece Hall. However, I think Bijan and Saquon both have strong chances to qualify as well. All of the other RBs aren't Hero RB material.
Running backs that run and receive are relatively scarce. I grab two great running backs in my first two picks. There are terrific options with the rookie class this year at receiver.
RBs are about like TEs now in fantasy football. There's about 4-5 or so at the top of the ranks that are worth going after but the rest aren't much better than playing waiver wire roulette. I applied this logic to my 2-12 dynasty team going into the 2020 season. I traded away my only decent asset, Alvin Kamara for picks. I completely focused on the other positions. If a good RB falls into my lap, then great, but I'm not chasing RBs like before. Now, going into 2024, I can say that strategy worked like a charm! I'm the defending league champ. My team is loaded going into the season at every position, I even two good RBs, Kyren Williams and Kenneth Walker. That would be my advice, treat RBs like they're TEs.
Got B. Robinson, Taylor, Pacheco as first 3 picks… trying heavy Rb in this PPR league. I was pos 12, all the WR and QBs I would have targeted were gone…which forced my hand. Rest of team: Daniels (Qb) Higgins(wr) Kirk (wr) Njoku (te) Singletary Lawrence (QB) Bench all suck apart from Mostert and Hopkins
Already have Johnathan Taylor (3rd round) Devon Achane (11th round) and Anthony Richardson (round 12) in my keeper league, so I will be hitting WR early and often.
Fantastic presentation the most useful information ever!!! Question on a 10-team Superflex I have the 9th pick 6 QBs will go before me plus CM So do I go Hall or grab Lamb or Jefferson and then hope a Hero will be there if 10 does not double up if there are 2 heroes left. Or there will be 2 #1 wrs What is the best approach I will not take a QB till maybe the 6th or 7th my league has a pattern of you 1 QB early. Thank you
if u think ceedee will be available go for something like ceedee and jordan love or wait for dak in the third and take gibbs or jt in the 2nd - but i doubt that ceedee will be there at the 1.9...
I have played FF for over 20 years and won my fair share in a very competitive league playing for big $$. Yes, draft a hero RB round one and then wait and go back to back RB in rounds 6 and 7. Every year there are 4 or 5 new RB's in the Top 10. You MUST be able to get 1 or 2 of those new top 10 RB's. I grabbed R. White and James Cook in mid-round and that help me get deep into the playoffs then I got unlucky. But every year I am in the playoffs, so I do think it works. Good Luck!
In our scoring system, over the past 5 years, there has consistently been 12-14 + 200 pt RBS to 5-6 +200 pt WRs. So, a good argument can be made to grab one of the sure stud WRs first round then grab the RB next round.
I went Tyreke/Saquan/Hall/Fields last year in a PPR. The idea being to get the best pass catching backs I could(who also actually run the ball). Be the first to start a run on a position, if you're the last, you mise as well draft a different position. First two rounds is about floor. Swing for the fences after that. It must work, because I won.
@@Pkilla80 Saquan was pretty most of the season with a good floor. He wasn't elite or anything, but the dude put up points. I started Fields everytime he was healthy, it was a 12 team league. No way I won? Tyreke was the best overall WR to own last year. Hall is a top 5 pick this year, in the back half of the 3rd round. Other guys for rest of draft, trades, etc included Pacheco(pickup), Aaron Jones(trade), Warren(draft), Pittman Jr.(draft), Tee Higgins(trade)
Regardless of whether you draft WR or RB first, my strategy has always been to make sure you have depth at RB (ideally have 4 RBs that are startable). If all 4 RBs turn out to be studs (which is unlikely), you can always trade them.
My typically strategy I consider “balanced”, where I usually take a true RB1 & WR1 with my first two picks… in my league I’ve focused RB heavy for PPR targets in the later rounds, and have picked up 3 chips in the last 5 years (in a pretty competitive league)
I have the 1.01 but i don't like grabbing mcaffery cause by the time I get my next two picks most of the good options are rbs, with the only real safe wr option being mike evans.
I'll go Hero RB but I would include Gibbs, Taylor and Barkley on that category, even Henry or Achane. I rather have one of those than freaking Drake London (WR4 last year), Olave or alike. There are plenty of WRs to fill your roster in 3rd, 4th, 5th round and the RB decline goes really hard after 2nd round.
Format is very important. In half PPR ppg “incredibly disappointing” Josh Jacobs outscored Metcalf, Olave, D Smith, Waddle, Ridley, Kupp, Pittman, Higgins just to name a few round 2-3 WRs. WRs disappoint too and there are so many to choose from.
Depends on the rb you draft. Last year I had two teams with a hero rb build, one team had Breece Hall, another had Jonathan Taylor 😅 the wins accumulated accordingly
I’m waiting again this year I think. I’m in a ppr league and last year my RB 1 was David Montgomery and I won my league with winning wrs. Seemed to work for me.
Anytime you can hit on one or two later picks and avoid major injuries in your early picks you will win. It's impossible to know what will actually happen
Idk how you made the logical jump from take a hero runningback to its not worth taking Saquon, Taylor or Henry in the second if you went WR in the first.
Awesome tips and good strategy ideas dudes 👍🏻. Better than a lot of bigger Channels for sure. Great way to explain why to go with which strategies. Appreciate the insight.
@@mikee702I’m in an 8 team and the thing is there isn’t just great value for you everywhere, there’s also value for everyone else too. Everybody’s teams are so good I wish all of mine were 12 team
I'd be interested in knowing Waiver Wire data to show importance of staying active. Showing the median and highs from various positions would be interesting.
@@ryanalex106it’s why I usually risk going WR/WR early because RB’s pop up on the wire all year that can at least be serviceable and some elite producers. Might change that this year since I am intrigued by several for a Hero build.
It’s hard for me not to take 3/4 RBs, WRs run much deeper with probably of score a huge play rather than 4 constant RBs 70/80 points from 3 spots a week, easier to get double digit from a WR; I go great TE mid rounds, and multiple QBs mid late rounds followed by potential like K.rob (why I stoped drafting ETN) and V. Jefferson(praying on Pickens, people might be down in the schedule, but tougher may be meaning, throwing to a #1) , C. Patterson versatile and practically rested a year, add on Willy Wilson highkey lowkey, been switching up in my draft going more WRs i understand the huge play potential but it’s about the unexpected undrafted players being drafted and popping off; 5 more drafts till I max out on dfs favorite time of year: not drafting QBs with bye weeks of 14 because I could draft Cunningham who may be featured as a WR/QB hybrid just drafts I’ve been taking chances on even though I like Richardson with Downs
Let me know you guys' thoughts: In a keeper league, I have Breece and Drake London as my keepers and managed to get another first round pick (1.3 & 1.10) thinking about taking two wrs, and getting a rb in the 5th.
sounds like Hero is only an option if you have a top5 pick, in my $$$-league(10T .5PPR) have the 10th pick, was thinking Hero with Taylor or Henry with the 11pick at the turn. But I may just go WR/WR and wait on my RB1 on someone like Aaron Jones, Zamir White or Mostert. With that being said I am not touching Raschaad White
according to 2023 it seems according to the points the best strat wouldve been, wr,wr,rb,wr,wr,wr,wr,wr,rb,rb,wr,wr,wr,rb obviously with qbs and tes mixed in but tbh i love getting one rb in the top two rounds to me its until the etn range, stack the rest of my team with the best values not at rb then draft a bunch of rbs with my next picks
Sounds to me like you want to take more shots at RB, so you have to lock down two WRs early. But that could be Amari Cooper as your 2. There is no replicating a McCaffery / Bijan/ Hall. Elite RBs are still king
I go with a heavy RB strategy. I draft heavy RB early and get some sleepers towards rhe back end. My roster usually ends up with 5 RBs. Reason being is trade value. There are a lot of good WR's out there but not enough good RB's. Last year I traded Achane for AJ Brown in week 3. Achane was my 8th to 10th round pick, AJ Brown was a 1st rounder. It ended up working out for the both of us, but it's harder to do that with WR's because the trade value just isn't there.
Hero RB strategy got me screwed over 4 years in a row I Drafted Christian Mccafrey 1st overall back to back seasons when he was on the panthers and he got hurt both years Jonathan Taylor fell to me the year he was the consistently being drafted #1 overall Then I drafted Ekeler last year with the 6th pick and he single handedly destroyed my team No more hero RB for me
Brooks is a fantastic talent, but they already said they are going to slow walk him, he is going to start camp with an injury tag, and probably won’t take over till mid season… you want backs who will be good early not late… Next year will be his year for sure
Gonna swerve when everyone is doing the same I think robust rb can win this year Cmc, barkley and henry Bijon , Taylor, achaine Brrece taylor williams Mix and match and end with 3 of top 5 rbs and and great base each week
I go RB early in rounds 1-3… data is misleading… There are 10 maybe 12 RBs you can reliably count on, not sharing touches… your not getting that production with later round picks And there is so much value at WR late, and then on top of that you can come back around and still grab the zero RB guys… Even your stats say 1st and 2nd round are 17 to 15 point guys, compared to 12 in the 4th… that’s a whole 5 points… like a third of the production… So gamble on the hope and pray guys in the 5th and on??? Hero RB has been best for years now… there is not a lot of guys that are studs any more… who are the one true never come off the field guys
I'm 2nd ovr pick 2flex 1qb ppr CMC Olave Hurts (im an eagles fan and my friends always try and snipe him) D Smith Zay Flowers Rome Odunze Pollard Hockenson Shultz Chase brown Jerome ford Jaylen wright Mike williams
Terrible advice for this year. Why would I fade someone like Derrick Henry in round 2 if I’m unable to get Bijan/Breece/CMAC in round 1. If you look at the data, WR’s have a higher bust rate than RB’s. Hero RB is great but it shouldn’t be limited to 3 guys. You can go WR round 1, Derrick Henry round 2, WR Rounds 3-4, or take another RB in between. All about picking the right player.
@muemuemue I mean Ekeler is in a shared role, left LA after he asked for a lesser workload and didnt get it, is getting older and playing with a QB that is going to snake TDs. Same situation with Cook minus asking for less workload. Your rb ceilings are extremely capped if you end up going with then as your 1-2, I dont think 0 rb has ever won bestball mania anyways.
This is not seeing the trees through the forest I bet using these averages is going to result inaverage teams .... If you were to take out the best RB from every round, then. Take the averages of the remaining totals again. You'll see the dramatic difference.... I think this data is because so many 1sr & second round running backs last year , busted & o c some later aroung running back hit. If you wanna be one of the.Regression to the means kind of guys...then you could expect to see regression to the mean at RB in 2024. . Specific winning running back strategy.Just take the entire back field on good teams with good running games, its the safest is bet. A team with a couple of stud wide receivers and alot....! of the cheap running backs ,on good running teams will be hard to bet
You’ll have a handful of people win with this strategy. You’ll have a handful of people win with other strategies. You can win fantasy football a ton of ways
If you can grab Bijan/Breece and snag Gibbs/Taylor in round two, there are so many WR values going in the middle rounds, your team will immediately have a nice leg up.
Draft strategy is overrated. I won two different leagues last year. One with a zero RB stategy (got montgomery & JTaylor in middle rounds) & the other one with heavy RB (had CMC, Kamara, James Cook & scooped Kyren off waivers week1). Drafting a good player matters more than basing a pick on a specific strategy
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I think this is the year of double hero RB. Top-heavy RBs in a relative wasteland with immense WR, QB, and (comparably to recent years) TE depth. I know the Underdog data doesn’t corroborate but I genuinely feel comfortable starting guys around WR40, for example
Bro I’m thinking the same thing
It’s been so easy to draft for example
Bijan n Taylor
Taylor n Gibbs
Also I have a underdog team
Breece Taylor n Kyren
How can you not love that team
@@K0rbendal1as yeah man that roster is nice. I snagged Bijan and Gibbs in my dynasty startup, rest of my team is still pretty solid. Sometimes you gotta zig where they zag
Auction draft btw
In dynasty, have Bijan, Achane to go with AR, Lamb, Aiyuk, DJM, Flowers, Reed, Kincaid, Pitts. Double hero +
i agree brody, great take
@@K0rbendal1asthat’s 3 players who are you starting at wr? lol Sutton?
Tend to go zero rb strategy last couple of seasons and it’s worked out well for me. Main reason is just due to the likelihood that all rbs on average miss more games than WRs due to injury. I made playoffs in 6/8 and finals in 4/8. Having a variety of different players. Most common theme:
Drafted WR heavy
Took value at rb ( 1 in top 6 rounds)
Got an elite top 5 rushing QB
Grabbed a top 3 TE everywhere I could. (Granted Laporta blew that up)
That’s not wr heavy if you’re first 3 picks aren’t wr
I certainly agree with this.
Drafting a running QB is paramount in a Zero RB scheme because he can make up for some of the rushing production that you cede by not taking RBs early (if the QB has 800-1,000 yard rushing upside, that will be pure golden).
Your strategy is good because you have to find ways to make up for the disadvantage that you'll have at the RB position -- so you have to hit on the other positions and take a rushing QB.
Dawg you’re in 8 leagues? Sheeesh kid
Love this strategy. I’ve been following it the last two years mysefl
What the video analysis fails to consider and why it’s wrong, is that you can’t look at season long ppg. For example, you go zero RB and get someone like ford or moss or whatever backup. They carried your team when they were starting but they didn’t start all year so their ppg wasn’t that high. When you punt RB in the draft you ideally have strong RBs come season end.
I was ready for Hero RB today (Breece Hall) in my home league draft but Jahmyr Gibbs fell into my lap at 2.07 😁
This year, I'm am not going to risk going RB in the first round, outside of CMC and HALL. I'm going to go WR, and then HERO RB in the second round with a work horse. I would be fine if my RB was Saquon, Pacheco or Henry.
Bijan is going to be the top player by seasons end.
It really depends on where you’re drafting in round 1. Early picks are premium WR. Later Round 1 I’ll take Hero RB all day. CMC,Hall,Taylor and Barkley don’t have a 1b hand cuff, Robinson does.
The 2021-2023 RB Chart shown @2:32 is the same as the 2023 Chart shown @5:19.
I think nathan is right tho abt the rpund 2 rbs. Looking at the charts rd 1 wr + rd 2 rb = 34.66 pts whereas round 1 rb + rb 2 wr =32.91 pts. I also think the rd 2 rbs might have better name value drafting a saquon in the best situation of his career instead of a guy like olave who has yet to show much imo
Agreed 100
Question: the RB points per game that you showed for 2021-23 and for just 2023 are the same numbers (rounded to a different decimal point), so are those numbers actually from 2021-23 or just 2023?
My favorite tool, especially helpful in startups, is the WoRP (Wins over Replacement) tool on Dynasty Daddy.
Because I play in many leagues that use different scoring, TEP, PPC, PFFD, etc. I used to have to crunch all the numbers in my head.
Now the WoRP tool on Dynasty Daddy does all that work for you, and shows you positional values in that league broken down by that specific league's scoring. Very handy!!
I have the 3rd pick in my big money league coming up. My mindset is Hero RB with Breece or Bijon falling to me. I mocked the hell out of this pick position and it's definitely the proper strategy.
Drafted double hero RB the last two seasons with great success. Last year I drafted CMC then Chubb. When Chubb got injured I was able to pick up Kyren Williams off waivers. This year, I will definitely draft CMC round 1 and Kyren round 2 if the opportunity presents itself.
I mean that's a flawed chart. You're not looking at the players in that draft. If 1 player was drafted in round 10 and he averaged 10 points vs 3 rbs drafted in round 4 with a mixed bag of avg points like 9 points csn you really say round 10 was better than rd 4? You need to look deeper not just face value
You are absolutely right
I think Derrick Henry in the 2nd round is gonna be a steal! He'll finish this season as a Top 3 RB with that B-More offense if everyone remains healthy.
I’ve been playing for 6 years now. I always go Hero RB. I made playoffs every year other than my first year. Been to 3 championships. Last year I had 2nd pick took CMC and I didn’t take my next RB till Monty which was 6th round. I definitely wouldn’t reach for a RB but I love to anchor my team with RB so I don’t have to worry about my top player. That’s barring any injuries.
Agreed. Hero RB is a strong strat IF you get a hero RB. Last year, IMO there was only 1 Hero RB. So it was either CMC or go a different route.
This year, there are at least 2 Hero RB. CMC and Breece Hall. However, I think Bijan and Saquon both have strong chances to qualify as well. All of the other RBs aren't Hero RB material.
What if you got the 12th pick in .5ppr? Not getting CMC, Bijan, or Breece. Also not getting a top 6 WR most likely. Gotta go Gibbs/WR?
Running backs that run and receive are relatively scarce. I grab two great running backs in my first two picks. There are terrific options with the rookie class this year at receiver.
sorry - camera slightly out of focus :)
shoutout to Tom from our research team for this great research!
I’ve got CMC and Tyreek. Should I trade Tyreek for Bijan
What platform are you referencing? Taylor, Achane, Barkley do not go in later the later rounds on Sleeper.
Every year I want to do Hero RB. Come draft day I just can’t. And every year I get the same pts off of the waiver wire. Let’s see this year.
RBs are about like TEs now in fantasy football.
There's about 4-5 or so at the top of the ranks that are worth going after but the rest aren't much better than playing waiver wire roulette.
I applied this logic to my 2-12 dynasty team going into the 2020 season. I traded away my only decent asset, Alvin Kamara for picks. I completely focused on the other positions. If a good RB falls into my lap, then great, but I'm not chasing RBs like before.
Now, going into 2024, I can say that strategy worked like a charm! I'm the defending league champ. My team is loaded going into the season at every position, I even two good RBs, Kyren Williams and Kenneth Walker.
That would be my advice, treat RBs like they're TEs.
What about double hero RB? I'm liking the RBs in round 2/3 over the receivers in round 2/3
Got B. Robinson, Taylor, Pacheco as first 3 picks… trying heavy Rb in this PPR league.
I was pos 12, all the WR and QBs I would have targeted were gone…which forced my hand.
Rest of team:
Daniels (Qb)
Higgins(wr)
Kirk (wr)
Njoku (te)
Singletary
Lawrence (QB)
Bench all suck apart from Mostert and Hopkins
Already have Johnathan Taylor (3rd round) Devon Achane (11th round) and Anthony Richardson (round 12) in my keeper league, so I will be hitting WR early and often.
Is this for best ball?? Or is this implemented for espn and yahoo redraft leagues too?
Can you point me to where you got this data from plz? Thank you
I think you can do a modified hero RB - ETN, Pachecho round 3 or 4
ETN shouldn’t be around in round 3 let alone 4
Etienne and Pacheco are top 20 fantasy players. No way they going 3rd/fourth
Neither will be there lol
Drafting at 1.10 should I draft wr first round and hope Gibbs fall or take Gibbs first and grab who whatever wr falls
Fantastic presentation the most useful information ever!!!
Question on a 10-team Superflex I have the 9th pick 6 QBs will go before me plus CM So do I go Hall or grab Lamb or Jefferson and then hope a Hero will be there if 10 does not double up if there are 2 heroes left.
Or there will be 2 #1 wrs What is the best approach I will not take a QB till maybe the 6th or 7th my league has a pattern of you 1 QB early.
Thank you
if u think ceedee will be available go for something like ceedee and jordan love or wait for dak in the third and take gibbs or jt in the 2nd - but i doubt that ceedee will be there at the 1.9...
I have played FF for over 20 years and won my fair share in a very competitive league playing for big $$. Yes, draft a hero RB round one and then wait and go back to back RB in rounds 6 and 7. Every year there are 4 or 5 new RB's in the Top 10. You MUST be able to get 1 or 2 of those new top 10 RB's. I grabbed R. White and James Cook in mid-round and that help me get deep into the playoffs then I got unlucky. But every year I am in the playoffs, so I do think it works. Good Luck!
In our scoring system, over the past 5 years, there has consistently been 12-14 + 200 pt RBS to 5-6 +200 pt WRs. So, a good argument can be made to grab one of the sure stud WRs first round then grab the RB next round.
I went Tyreke/Saquan/Hall/Fields last year in a PPR. The idea being to get the best pass catching backs I could(who also actually run the ball). Be the first to start a run on a position, if you're the last, you mise as well draft a different position. First two rounds is about floor. Swing for the fences after that. It must work, because I won.
100% no way you won drafting Saquan who did nothing all season and Fields when you prolly benched him the only games he was good then was hurt.
@@Pkilla80 Saquan was pretty most of the season with a good floor. He wasn't elite or anything, but the dude put up points. I started Fields everytime he was healthy, it was a 12 team league. No way I won? Tyreke was the best overall WR to own last year. Hall is a top 5 pick this year, in the back half of the 3rd round. Other guys for rest of draft, trades, etc included Pacheco(pickup), Aaron Jones(trade), Warren(draft), Pittman Jr.(draft), Tee Higgins(trade)
Regardless of whether you draft WR or RB first, my strategy has always been to make sure you have depth at RB (ideally have 4 RBs that are startable).
If all 4 RBs turn out to be studs (which is unlikely), you can always trade them.
My typically strategy I consider “balanced”, where I usually take a true RB1 & WR1 with my first two picks… in my league I’ve focused RB heavy for PPR targets in the later rounds, and have picked up 3 chips in the last 5 years (in a pretty competitive league)
Can this apply to a super flex redraft league as well? Was gonna WR/WR out the gate but you got me thinking bijan at the 1.06?
Super flex you should really go qb. Cmac might be there for u at 6 lol
Do some research on superflex before you draft lol
Prob the best redraft drafting strategy video I’ve seen/heard! Amazing work team!! 🔥
I have the 1.01 but i don't like grabbing mcaffery cause by the time I get my next two picks most of the good options are rbs, with the only real safe wr option being mike evans.
Dude you take McCaffrey. His value is so much higher than any other player relative to position
I’d def go McCaffrey
Take Ceedee Lamb, then go RB at the round 2 and 3 turn
I’d go St Brown number 1 🤷♂️
@@its570Key lol
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I'll go Hero RB but I would include Gibbs, Taylor and Barkley on that category, even Henry or Achane. I rather have one of those than freaking Drake London (WR4 last year), Olave or alike. There are plenty of WRs to fill your roster in 3rd, 4th, 5th round and the RB decline goes really hard after 2nd round.
Format is very important. In half PPR ppg “incredibly disappointing” Josh Jacobs outscored Metcalf, Olave, D Smith, Waddle, Ridley, Kupp, Pittman, Higgins just to name a few round 2-3 WRs. WRs disappoint too and there are so many to choose from.
hahaha my friend was the outlier, hes picks last year were chubb saquon and kupp
Mustve gotten kyren or puka
Depends on the rb you draft. Last year I had two teams with a hero rb build, one team had Breece Hall, another had Jonathan Taylor 😅 the wins accumulated accordingly
I’d be just as ok with taking CD with a top 3 and Henry at the back with my 2nd as my hero
I’m waiting again this year I think. I’m in a ppr league and last year my RB 1 was David Montgomery and I won my league with winning wrs. Seemed to work for me.
Anytime you can hit on one or two later picks and avoid major injuries in your early picks you will win. It's impossible to know what will actually happen
Idk how you made the logical jump from take a hero runningback to its not worth taking Saquon, Taylor or Henry in the second if you went WR in the first.
So you have less than twenty RBs and over 50 WRs that are team worthy? Maybe 12 QBs? 7 TEs maybe? Supply and demand over base analytics.
so 101 is forced into a hero RB?
Awesome tips and good strategy ideas dudes 👍🏻. Better than a lot of bigger Channels for sure. Great way to explain why to go with which strategies. Appreciate the insight.
Im liking hero rb in the 2nd round with saquan and JT but then drafting recievers until the 6th because of the value
Theyve been going late first very early second at latest in the 9nes ive done
@@mikee702 im in an 8 man
@@cheesus6006 8? How is there not great value everywhere? Lol
@@mikee702I’m in an 8 team and the thing is there isn’t just great value for you everywhere, there’s also value for everyone else too. Everybody’s teams are so good I wish all of mine were 12 team
@LukasBiggestHater yeah not a fan.. theres no difference between teams
I'd be interested in knowing Waiver Wire data to show importance of staying active. Showing the median and highs from various positions would be interesting.
Agreed, seems there's a league winner (usually rb) on waivers after week 1 or 2 every year
@@ryanalex106it’s why I usually risk going WR/WR early because RB’s pop up on the wire all year that can at least be serviceable and some elite producers. Might change that this year since I am intrigued by several for a Hero build.
It’s hard for me not to take 3/4 RBs, WRs run much deeper with probably of score a huge play rather than 4 constant RBs 70/80 points from 3 spots a week, easier to get double digit from a WR; I go great TE mid rounds, and multiple QBs mid late rounds followed by potential like K.rob (why I stoped drafting ETN) and V. Jefferson(praying on Pickens, people might be down in the schedule, but tougher may be meaning, throwing to a #1) , C. Patterson versatile and practically rested a year, add on Willy Wilson highkey lowkey, been switching up in my draft going more WRs i understand the huge play potential but it’s about the unexpected undrafted players being drafted and popping off; 5 more drafts till I max out on dfs favorite time of year: not drafting QBs with bye weeks of 14 because I could draft Cunningham who may be featured as a WR/QB hybrid just drafts I’ve been taking chances on even though I like Richardson with Downs
Let me know you guys' thoughts:
In a keeper league, I have Breece and Drake London as my keepers and managed to get another first round pick (1.3 & 1.10) thinking about taking two wrs, and getting a rb in the 5th.
sounds like Hero is only an option if you have a top5 pick, in my $$$-league(10T .5PPR) have the 10th pick, was thinking Hero with Taylor or Henry with the 11pick at the turn. But I may just go WR/WR and wait on my RB1 on someone like Aaron Jones, Zamir White or Mostert. With that being said I am not touching Raschaad White
Curious why Gibbs isn't in your A tier with cmc Breece and Bijan
All three of those other RB’s are the defacto 1A options on offenses.
So I shouldn’t take cmc at 1
So if you go Hero RB at 1, what round do you target your next RB?
Typically 7 or 8
Guys like zach moss that i really like at adp and jaylen warren can hold down the fort around round 7 like the guy above me said
according to 2023 it seems according to the points the best strat wouldve been, wr,wr,rb,wr,wr,wr,wr,wr,rb,rb,wr,wr,wr,rb obviously with qbs and tes mixed in but tbh i love getting one rb in the top two rounds to me its until the etn range, stack the rest of my team with the best values not at rb then draft a bunch of rbs with my next picks
Sounds to me like you want to take more shots at RB, so you have to lock down two WRs early. But that could be Amari Cooper as your 2. There is no replicating a McCaffery / Bijan/ Hall. Elite RBs are still king
Looking at Breece and Kyren as my starters at RB.
I go with a heavy RB strategy.
I draft heavy RB early and get some sleepers towards rhe back end. My roster usually ends up with 5 RBs. Reason being is trade value. There are a lot of good WR's out there but not enough good RB's. Last year I traded Achane for AJ Brown in week 3. Achane was my 8th to 10th round pick, AJ Brown was a 1st rounder. It ended up working out for the both of us, but it's harder to do that with WR's because the trade value just isn't there.
You never mention the effect your draft will be if you want an Elite QB or TE with this strategy
Always take RB early. Went 11-3 and got the ship. This year I will start 3 RBs then go WR and TE through the first 5 rounds.
lol gonna take that L hard
Forcing yourself to take positions is very bad in practice.
@@TylerLeBlanc7yep. Why limit yourself
On every channel guys say they won a ship this and that strategy that's not a flex just means your league sucks
@philipbryan2685 most of it is random injury luck, not any particular strategy 😂
Hero RB strategy got me screwed over 4 years in a row
I Drafted Christian Mccafrey 1st overall back to back seasons when he was on the panthers and he got hurt both years
Jonathan Taylor fell to me the year he was the consistently being drafted #1 overall
Then I drafted Ekeler last year with the 6th pick and he single handedly destroyed my team
No more hero RB for me
Foing Wr and then RB then next three picks outside of RB and then return to Rn round 6
Brooks is a fantastic talent, but they already said they are going to slow walk him, he is going to start camp with an injury tag, and probably won’t take over till mid season… you want backs who will be good early not late…
Next year will be his year for sure
Gonna swerve when everyone is doing the same
I think robust rb can win this year
Cmc, barkley and henry
Bijon , Taylor, achaine
Brrece taylor williams
Mix and match and end with 3 of top 5 rbs and and great base each week
No love for Gibbs
Gibbs still has a split backfield. The guys here are all the workhorses
i think the RB wasteland isn’t going to be as dramatic this year since a lot of RBs going there aren’t old guys on a new team like they usually are
Am I different I try to score 5 rb’s 5 wr’s 2 tight ends 2 qb’s and 1 kicker and 1 defense
Same here! Injuries can wreck your season without capable backups! 👍
The only first round RB I’m taking is CMC.
I go RB early in rounds 1-3… data is misleading…
There are 10 maybe 12 RBs you can reliably count on, not sharing touches… your not getting that production with later round picks
And there is so much value at WR late, and then on top of that you can come back around and still grab the zero RB guys…
Even your stats say 1st and 2nd round are 17 to 15 point guys, compared to 12 in the 4th… that’s a whole 5 points… like a third of the production…
So gamble on the hope and pray guys in the 5th and on???
Hero RB has been best for years now… there is not a lot of guys that are studs any more… who are the one true never come off the field guys
This data only goes out to 8 decimal places - not sure if it is valid 😊
I jave the 14th pick. Not getting an elite wr or rb.
I'm 2nd ovr pick 2flex 1qb ppr
CMC
Olave
Hurts (im an eagles fan and my friends always try and snipe him)
D Smith
Zay Flowers
Rome Odunze
Pollard
Hockenson
Shultz
Chase brown
Jerome ford
Jaylen wright
Mike williams
Whenever everyone zigs, you zag. That’s the only proven method that has worked year after year
But why not compare with the exact same tables for the WR position??? This could have been useful
True - more to come!
I had an average of 170 FP scored against me over the total season in PPR. The worst opponents hit massively against me.
Terrible advice for this year. Why would I fade someone like Derrick Henry in round 2 if I’m unable to get Bijan/Breece/CMAC in round 1. If you look at the data, WR’s have a higher bust rate than RB’s. Hero RB is great but it shouldn’t be limited to 3 guys. You can go WR round 1, Derrick Henry round 2, WR Rounds 3-4, or take another RB in between. All about picking the right player.
There’s better options than Derrick Henry in round 2 with a higher ceiling and a higher floor
@@mrjadter at the running back position? There is not. Henry is going to feast in this offense.
Opinions are rampant. They came at you with data and you still said, “but…”
@@Ryan_Orion and I responded with data 😂
@@DaChamps15your Henry comment isn’t data. Throwing darts that WR’s have a higher bust rate. They should as there’s 3x of them to RB’s.
Why draft hero rb when u can get ekeler in tje 9th and cook goes undrafted! Both were first round picks just 6 or 7 years ago!
@muemuemue I mean Ekeler is in a shared role, left LA after he asked for a lesser workload and didnt get it, is getting older and playing with a QB that is going to snake TDs. Same situation with Cook minus asking for less workload. Your rb ceilings are extremely capped if you end up going with then as your 1-2, I dont think 0 rb has ever won bestball mania anyways.
Got 12th pick and I will be taking Gibbs or JT. I don't care what data shows.
This where im at. Pray someone falls and take a RB and WR
Triple Hero!!!!! Find the Sleeper!!!!!!!
Glad I found this channel
Great content!
Jonathon Taylor being slept on this year.
You could format the numbers, I see no point in showing x.xxxxxxxx :D
I only take those 3 in round 1!
I think the best approach is best player available.
I did last year and won
Receivers are a safer pick than running backs in the first
Except only 3/10 people can be hero RB in round one so you won’t always have a choice as all three of those RBs are top 5 currently
Do the same stats with WR I bet its even easier to find good wr than good rb
we did, its in this video!
WR/WR start has been meta the last several seasons
In the history of BestBall Mania hero rb and zero rb haven’t won that much though. Zero RB has won I think Zero times.
This is not seeing the trees through the forest I bet using these averages is going to result inaverage teams .... If you were to take out the best RB from every round, then.
Take the averages of the remaining totals again. You'll see the dramatic difference.... I think this data is because so many 1sr & second round running backs last year , busted & o c some later aroung running back hit. If you wanna be one of the.Regression to the means kind of guys...then you could expect to see regression to the mean at RB in 2024.
. Specific winning running back strategy.Just take the entire back field on good teams with good running games, its the safest is bet.
A team with a couple of stud wide receivers and alot....! of the cheap running backs ,on good running teams will be hard to bet
How is this video out of focus ?!
I wonder how this take will age
You’ll have a handful of people win with this strategy. You’ll have a handful of people win with other strategies. You can win fantasy football a ton of ways
saquan is going in the first round, Derek henry will be going in 2nd
in some formats yes
If you can grab Bijan/Breece and snag Gibbs/Taylor in round two, there are so many WR values going in the middle rounds, your team will immediately have a nice leg up.
I like wr rb rb wr
Draft strategy is overrated. I won two different leagues last year. One with a zero RB stategy (got montgomery & JTaylor in middle rounds) & the other one with heavy RB (had CMC, Kamara, James Cook & scooped Kyren off waivers week1). Drafting a good player matters more than basing a pick on a specific strategy