Battle of Britain: Trusting in God & Praying for Radar
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- Two key scenes from Guy Hamilton's film Battle of Britain (1969) that Hugh Dowding reviewed in 1968 before writing to Keith Park to assure him of fair treatment.
Leonard Mosely, author of the 1969 book Battle of Britain: The Making of a Film, documented that Dowding took a while to comment after the lights had come up on the first scene because Laurence Olivier's accurate portrayal actually had him weeping.
Dowding had also approved of the second office scene, of this extract, in which Trevor Howard portrayed Keith Park in his battle with Trafford Leigh-Mallory.
Hugh Dowding is often featured on this channel because of his Radar-God quote and links to his 11 July 1954 op-ed in the London Sunday Dispatch: I Believe in Flying Saucers. In apparent attempt to reduce the outing of this information, propaganda trolls target the video with truths, half-truths and outright falsehoods without answering the questions that would undermine their position.
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00:01 | This delay is an incredible piece of luck.
00:04 | I mean they roll up France, and then stop.
00:08 | They could have come right on.
00:10 | You know our latest intelligence is that Herr Hitler is sightseeing in France.
00:18 | (chuckle) Tis rather pleasant weather.
00:21 | Oh, I mean it! He's on holiday.
00:23 | I'm not complaining, Minister.
00:25 | No no no, seriously Dowding, the morale factor is vital.
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Our young men will have to shoot down their young men at a rate of three to one. Gee. I hope the war lovers and game players note that. What an obscenity.
Consider the following facts to see through the negative portrayal above.
1. Hugh Dowding is leading the UK defense... and not the Nazi offense.
2. Dowding's statement is both accurate and expressed with sadness.
3. An obscenity is an act or utterance that strongly offends the prevalent morality of the time.
4. Dowding is famous for this kindness, ethics, vegetarianism, anti-vivisection efforts and his spiritualism.
5. Kriegspiel strategy and other combat simulation games are a safer and ethical way to maintain defensive readiness on a planet that is still not unified in its knowledge of ancient history.
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@@TomOwensUAP Sad fact: Bomber Command repeatedly bombed the invasion barges and other military targets throughout 1940.
They lost more aircrew in 1940 than did Fighter Command.
Nope, I did not note that.
Four to one, actually. - And if they hadn't ?
Hitler's agenda for Great Britain after a successful invasion included exterminating the intelligentsia - essentially all politicians, academia, and military leaders; deporting men 16 years and older to Eastern Europe for slave labor; and the deportation and murder of all Jews. Please don't be soft and squeamish about the RAF's aggressive confrontation of the Luftwaffe. It may have saved the world. The D-Day invasion of Normandy could never have happened without England as a staging base.
Thank God for Dowding and Park.
I'll second that!
@@TomOwensUAP 3rd
Strictly speaking, Dowding would've referred to "RDF" or "chain home" because the word "radar" wasn't yet in common use. Some compromises are required if you're writing a screenplay for a movie, as opposed to a 500-page book for nerds.
Yes, great comment. I think the dignified radiolocation was also used in Britain until radar won out with the American influence. To your point, I've always appreciated that certain 2 hour + films can spark an interest in a fraction of the audience that will then go on to read the books. Again, great comment and thank you for checking in here.
The irony was that the British overestimated German strength considerably, and the Germans underestimated British strength considerably. Although at the time we thought they were training more pilots than us, in fact the reverse was true.
Also, in September 1940, Britain was producing more tanks, ships and planes than Germany. Not brilliant tanks, but enough to see off an invasion.
At the time it looked desperate, and that indeed is the narrative we have believed ever since, but in fact the Germans were nowhere near able to cross the Channel. If only they had, then they would have lost their invasion force in weeks, and that would have given the Russians more time to prepare - or perhaps the Germans would never have invaded Russia. There might even have been a army coup against Hitler.
0:50 notice the information posed as a gentle question.
Dowding's reply was centred on his Christian spiritualist beliefs.
Hence "Trusting in God, praying for Radar".
Like many veterans of the great war, he suffered immense grief over the loss of so many of his friends.
Hence his spiritualist beliefs.
As you will see if you look around the channel, I am respectful of both believers and skeptics... so long they are not violent extremists and can peacefully dialogue with truthful answers to questions they are asked. Dowding is featured on this channel because of the Radiolocation-God quote which links to his 11 July 1954 op-ed in the London Sunday Dispatch: I Believe in Flying Saucers. In the past, that idea has been summarily disrespected and dismissed by some as pure wishful thinking rooted in human emotion over the brutal losses you mention. However, UAP evidence that was deliberately hidden from public view in the past is now coming to the light of day. Summary level statements laced with loaded-language and logical fallacies have been used to sow disinformation and doubt... with many humans just starting to learn that only a Q&A exchange on the details will out the premises supporting the advanced conclusion.
@@bobsakamanos4469 > "Most people among the Allies were Christians then."
Among the Western allies, yes. Different kinds of Christians though... some fundamentalist/literalist... and some who studied the texts in detail identifying as Christians but fully understanding the allegorical and astronomical references in the NT that some have, apparently, still missed to this day.
@@bobsakamanos4469 I've noticed a growing trend among those humans either unable or simply unwilling to learn the details required for UAP advancement to bandy pejorative words like pedantic, semantics or to use other thought terminating clichés in attempt to block the free exchange of clues, symbols and information. I'm hopeful that one day those who might begin a thread by offering information will also be able to receive summary level hints to new information with the same grace.
@@bobsakamanos4469> "Sorry, I lost track of who I was responding to."
I understand your frustration with that, so no worries. On your new topic... as a pilot myself, I've read Brown's book Wings on My Sleeve (2007) and in fact I have it here on my shelf. The flying saucer event was in February of 1956 and he actually chased it in a de Havilland Vampire from Royal Air Station Brawdy. He gave a description similar to that given by US fighter pilot and astronaut Gordon Cooper as not being able to climb high enough to reach it. As you hinted... his quote is: "Where I once scoffed - I now have an open mind."
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@@bobsakamanos4469 The Soviet Union was anti-Christian.
I saw Leigh Mallory in "Where Eagles Dare". He's a wrong 'un, mark my words.
Yes, yes... good comment and a great classic film from 1968 based on the 1967 novel by Alistair MacLean. That's Patrick Wymark who has a few contributions in my field of interest.... and who also, very sadly, exited our world stage at far too young and age. Stay tuned for a video post on this subject.
2:20 HE BLEW UP!!! HE JUST BLEW UP!!!
"They just fell on us, they got my number two and the CO, you saw Canfield go down, it blew up, just blew up"
An excellent film with wonderful aerial footage...
I thought so too... thank you for checking in.
Trevor Howerd played Park.
Hugh Dowding, respectfully, is often featured on this channel because of his Radar-God quote and links to his 11 July 1954 op-ed in the London Sunday Dispatch: I Believe in Flying Saucers. In apparent attempt to reduce the outing of this information, propaganda trolls target the video with truths, half-truths and outright falsehoods without answering the questions that would undermine their position.
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They should have let the women fly combat missions, pilot problem solved.
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Big Wing Spits and Hurricanes differ in flat out pace Dowding, knew it Park for God's sake Bader how in the name of
Correct 😊
Correct is positive word, but I'd still be interested to know what specifically you are suggesting is correct. Over to you, when able.
Get your bloody ass into gear.
They can teach "Monkeys" to fly better than that dakdakadakdak. 1960s mae west.
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If you mean that British actor Trevor Howard who appeared in 1969's Battle of Britain as Air Vice Marshal Keith Park also portrayed Royal Navy officer William Bligh in 1962's Mutiny on the Bounty... then YES! Nice catch.
@@TomOwensUAP yes I do ! Luv that movie, Mr, CHRISTIAAAAAAN !!!!
@@robertparisi8016 Charles Laughton delivers an iconic "Mr Christian!" line in the 1935 version of the film with Clark Gable as Fletcher Christian.
"The greatest tragedy is that you British and we Germans are not fighting side by side against the real enemy, Russia." - Rommel
James, are you able to provide a source citation for the quote in the comment above that you are attributing to Erwin Rommel? If not, I will have to remove the quote as spurious propaganda.
@@TomOwensUAP "How an elite group of Jewish refugees helped to defeat the Third Reich" by "The Forward" magazine.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw which in turn cites the book "X Troop: The Secret Jewish Commandos of World War II." by Leah Garrett as published by Mariner books in May of 2021.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw your quote stands as truthful with support from the credible source "X Troop". The exchange continued:
“Sir, how can the British and Germans fight side by side considering what we know about what the Nazis are doing to the Jews? No Englishman could ever tolerate such a thing.”
“Well, that’s a political argument, and as a soldier you shouldn’t be interested in politics at all,” Rommel answers curtly.
“I’m sorry, sir, but it’s very important to us English,” replies the Jewish refugee from Budapest.
@@TomOwensUAP so James omitted the response from Lane and is peppering the post with pro-N props?
After the end of the war in Europe Patton wrote, "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy all along."
He later wrote, "I think we've been fighting the wrong people all this time."
For which it is a fact that Eisenhower rightly removed him from command. It is pretty clear that Nazi atrocities prior to US entry into World War II made that totalitarian government an enemy of the free world. Stalin was no better... and it is a fact that Nikita Khrushchev openly condemned Stalin for his crimes.
In reply to this comment, I received a statement held for review by TH-cam that the Allies had also committed mass murder atrocities and that this was why Patton opposed the Nuremberg Trial. When I asked for specifics, the response was the common Nazi apologist reference to the Soviet NKVD's Katyn Massacre of captured Polish officers and intelligentsia in the spring of 1940 following the 1 September 1939 Nazi invasion of Poland from the West and the resultant Soviet invasion of Poland from the East on 17 September 1939. Lumping Stalin's draconian government in with the Western Allies of the United States, Britain, France, and Canada is risible propaganda... especially given the Cold War which followed soon after in March 1947. It is perfectly reasonable to oppose both totalitarian governments, fascist and communist, and you don't have to make the mistake of rooting for one over the other. The whole nature of this channel is to assist humans in rising above an Us vs Them mentality... and you will often find some using higher view count videos to spread their slanted half-truth hate rhetoric. Don't let them do it. Here's an article just out documenting the evidence of how Putin's propaganda is being laundered by unwitting westerners.
Newly declassified US intel claims Russia is laundering propaganda through unwitting Westerners
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The current Russian propaganda services are very good at destabilization.
Germany also had radar.
Radar was a German invention.
No. The FIRST patent was indeed a German patent, but it couldn't work because there was no means of displaying the resultant image. Radar (or in the more accurate phrasing of the time, "radio direction finding) was exclusively British. The Germans were aware the British were developing radar, and a visit by the airship (Hindenburg?) was used as a means of detecting British experimental transmissions. After that the Germans played "catch up". The German systems always lagged behind the British radar. The earliest experiments were based upon the idea that sending an electronic pulse towards an aircraft might make the engine fail.
@@JamesRichards-mj9kw Your hatred is irrational.
@@raypurchase801 I'm very appreciative that you have weighed in on this. I normally block this kind of hate propaganda right off... but it may be beneficial if we simply work to expose it with source citations to the detailed facts instead of ignoring it. I will provide a few comments in response to James... but if at any time his behavior makes operations here unpleasant for you, I will remove him. Your contributions are respected here.
@@TomOwensUAP I agree with you and Ray. RADAR is a SYSTEM for Radio Detection and Ranging, and that requires the Plan Position Indicator or PPI. James is apparently disgusted with the Nazis and AH for abandoning research into radar around 1940 because they thought they had already won the war?
@@TomOwensUAP Thanks, Tom! But no need to delete him.
Also, I want to say how much I appreciate your video showing the letter. Many of us who visit clips from this movie are nerds who've been reading dozens of books about this subject since the movie first came out. This letter is new to me, and it provided a "Wow!" moment.