You owe just a memory. It is honestly surprising to me as polish living in uk for so long that majority of people don’t know anything about Squadron 303 and other important events from ww2 where Poland was involved like cracking enigma code, Warsaw uprising or how much Poland sacrificed and lost in the past for greater good, that our country was „reset” and it took years to recover from both invaders and catch up with others on many grounds. Poland was a battlefield. And if anyone is interested they can look online for numbers showing the difference and also how polish people were treated afterwards ( not saying people in general but there were some important incidents caused by individuals). And i am not saying this to take any credit as i was not there nor other poles living now and also not saying we are the only one who fought, but i am just annoyed sometimes when we polish people not only in UK but in other countries too are pictured as drunk uneducated kurwa swearing people just because they have seen some individuals. Other countries also have people like that and it doesn’t mean everyone is the same.
Sadly, Churchill had little option when the War ended. Whilst we still had an effective Army, Navy and Airforce, the UK was on it's knees in all other respects and at Yalta was outmaneuvered by Roosevelt as well as Stalin. However I do agree that denying the Poles their rightful place in the Victory Parade was a shameful act of appeasement to Stalin.
Lucky you weren't the Prime Minister at the time. How many more millions would you have sent to their death? Britain and France were broken at the end of the war and you would have had us declare war on the Russians. What a joke.
@@CB-fz3li As always, beautiful example of English ignorance. In Poland it's common known fact, that we can't count on u since 2nd World War. Also, pls declassify documments about gen. Sikorski's murder, my english friend.
@@PaddyThePole Please tell me what I said that was wrong? Do you think the western allies should have declared war on Russia? Anyway Churchill was always the most pro Polish of the allies. Roosevelt ignored his efforts at Yalta to support a democratic Poland in favour of siding with Stalin in return for a promise of help against Japan.
God bless the Polish pilots who defended this island. My father was Polish who made his home in England after the war. He was with the Polish free army. He always told me he would cut off his right arm for England who gave him sanctuary after the War. He loved England and it's people.
@@claretormerod8220 "Had it not been for the magnificent material contributed by the Polish squadrons and their unsurpassed gallantry," wrote Air Chief Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding, head of RAF Fighter Command, "I hesitate to say that the outcome of the Battle (of Britain) would have been the same." I think those people knew more about the war than you. Please listen to people that where there. Greatings from Canada.
Witness Bismarck and Polish craft furiously signalling to German craft "I am Polish". Amazed the Polish vessel able to steam past (and survive) with those large b88s in the water..
Bartosz Gurdak Geographically you are right, politically you are wrong .... i czy nam się to podoba czy nie jesteśmy wschodnią częścią Europy dla zachodu ..... kulturowo powinniśmy być zaliczeni do zachodniej Europy, ponieważ mamy alfabet łaciński ... ale polityka jest ważniejsza ..... niestety
Whether you are central or west and not east does not matter. What really matters is that the bravery and sacrificing of their lives by your ancestors was not acknowledged by the Government or by its people of the so called country Great Britain or today’s United Kingdom. It always had an EGO that the sun does not set on its Empire and still love to sing or hear till date. Though they call themselves United Kingdom but it’s an open secret on know how the Scott's got humiliated by the rest of Britain be it their dress or accent of English. That’s the bloody Truth Long live the king Queen Prince Etc. Etc. buts goes from door to door of each and every country that it once ruled with a “BEGGING BOWL". Such is the condition of theirs that their own present PM does not have a comb to comb his hair, always messed up and looks like he has just woken up from his sleep and straight away headed to his office
Have you ever heard of 'POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY ? THE ALLIES WERE STILL TRYING TO GET THE BEST DEAL FOR EASTERN EUROPE, WITH IT'S 3 MILLION SOVIET FULLY ARMED TROOPS OCCUPYING IT. UPSETTING MAD STALIN AT THAT TIME, WOULD HAVE CAUSED EVEN WORSE REACTIONS. HE'D HAVE TAKEN ANY ALLIED PRAISE OF SUCH COUNTRIE'S AS AN INSULT. SHAME, BUT WE HAVE MADE UP FOR IT, IN EVERY FILM AND DOCUMENTARY ON THE SUBJECT, SINCE, SO THERE THERE.
Yes it was a disgrace to ignore their contributions to Great Britain ... The British with Churchill 's approval chose to appease Stalin instead and the back stabbing Communists. Poland got the shaft as usual.
@@MrDaiseymay ''3 MILLION SOVIET FULLY ARMED'' this just shows how uneducated the west is about WW2. Russia was on the verge of bankruptcy. There was around 1 gun for 5 soldiers etc. Do you think they could afford another war with the US-GB-FR?? And Caps of cos you sound like an angry teenager.
If anyone deserves a statue in central London, it is Polish fighter pilots. Shot down 14% of Luftwaffe losses during the Battle of Britain - won by such fine margins.
About 3.1% actually, you shouldn't take anything said in this video seriously, the imperial War museum are renowned for historical inaccuracies. and most kills were slow flying light bombers.
The poles had lost their homes, and families, and as the saying goes, “fear the one who has lost everything, for he will fight to the very end” (or something like that)
Not only the Battle of Britain, The Poles fought gallantly all over Europe. Market Garden and Battle of Monte Cassino to name a couple battles. Polish soldiers who fought at Monte Cassino were no ordinary conscripts, drafted and sent to Italy. Most had been forcibly removed from their homes by the Russians, sent to Siberia to labour camps, endured near starvation and escaped on foot to Iran to join the Free Polish Forces as part of the Allied effort. Italy: On May 18 at noon, a victorious white-and-red flag was hoisted on the Monte Cassino hill. The assault cost the lives of 923 Polish soldiers, 2931 were wounded, and 345 were never found. The Battle of Monte Cassino was a testimony to Polish bravery and sacrifice. The Battle of Monte Cassino was one of the hardest fought battles of the war costing the allies more than twice the casualties of the axis powers. The sad part is that driving the Germans from Italy is hardly mentioned when speaking of the war
@@brinkee7674 gen Sosabowski who led Polish soldiers in the Market Garden, was later on scapegoatet for the failure of the operation as Montgomery's ego could stand the blame. Monty was poor chief cammander, good that Patton took over.
Imagine the drive, the courage of these people. “Oh our country has fallen, no matter. Let’s risk life and limb to avenge our mother land in Britain”. Men and women of steel in their veins! In Irish they were Na Fianna!
Most of them fought in the Battel of France too. They escaped TWO occupied countries, made it across the English Channel to have another chance while leaving their homeland and families behind to fight against the Luftwaffe. Absolute legends.
Haha you are just as touchy about that as most of the Czechs are. We were on the eastern side of the iron curtain, so - politically - Poland and Czechoslovakia were in the Eastern Europe while Finland and Austria were in the Western Europe.
Yes They did very well Nothing much saying about what happened after 1945 They get sold out by big drunk Churchill and F.D.R to BOLSHEVIKS Nice way to rewarded this brave pilots Half of the Europe was occupied by Soviets until 1989 Thanks for posting this video God bless You all
Another one bashing the brits, The Polish pilots have a place in our hearts and we are all proud that they flew with the RAF. Ask any brit who knows the story and they will tell you that. Also they didnt all get treated badly at all. As the video even said, a lot of them choose to stay in britain and become flight instructors and stay with the RAF. They were honered by the Brits. When the soviets took control of Poland after the war, what did you expect Britain to do, Invade Russia. There was nothing we could do. We were a country that had lost its empire and were broke. So not being able to do anything is not the same choosing not to do anything. Britain went to war in the first place because Germany invaded Poland. Also the brits was the ones that gave the poles the oppertunity to fight in the war. Yes Britain got great warriors out of it but they also gave the polish the chance to fight as well, it was win, win all round in that respect. Brits love the poles and we have memorials in our country that we pay tribute to for their bravery and sacrifice. Also a lot of forces personel who left the service after the war from all over the world including Brits started working in civilian jobs which were working class and had working clas roles including my grandfather. Their is nothing wrong with being working class and earning a living. We have a lot of polish working class people today in the uk who are builders and tradesman, its a good decent and honest living. So stop bashing us Brits like we are prejudice or something and shut your face.
Lets reverse the situation. Do you think that Poles would go and fight for liberation of some country on the other side of the world? Why they should do that? In the same sense, why do you think Americans or Brits should fight for liberation of Poland from the Soviets after the war? How would general command rationalize this to the people of USA, or British command rationalize this suicidal role? Going after Russia was impossible in that time. You need to have the laverage to force someone to do something, and the Russian army was massive. The war was over. There was no more killing. There was occupation, thats right. And that was a shame. But I dont think you can expect some other people on the other side of the world to fight for your freedom, as you would not expect Poles to go and fight for Indians in the USA, or for some African or South American country. Talking as a Pole.
@@michasosnowski5918 Do you think that Poles would go and fight for liberation of some country on the other side of the world? - Polish soldiers after being sent to haitit with the french by napoleon helped haitians to fight the french off so yea they would
@@brutusz6708 Yes, but as you said "they were send". Its not like they organized themselves. And they fought for Haitans despite orders to fight for Napoleon, which is great. I am not saying you said differently, just commenting.
Another one bashing the brits, The Polish pilots have a place in our hearts and we are all proud that they flew with the RAF. Ask any brit who knows the story and they will tell you that. Also they didnt all get treated badly at all. As the video even said, a lot of them choose to stay in britain and become flight instructors and stay with the RAF. They were honered by the Brits. When the soviets took control of Poland after the war, what did you expect Britain to do, Invade Russia. There was nothing we could do. We were a country that had lost its empire and were broke. So not being able to do anything is not the same choosing not to do anything. Britain went to war in the first place because Germany invaded Poland. Also the brits was the ones that gave the poles the oppertunity to fight in the war. Yes Britain got great warriors out of it but they also gave the polish the chance to fight as well, it was win, win all round in that respect. Brits love the poles and we have memorials in our country that we pay tribute to for their bravery and sacrifice. Also a lot of forces personel who left the service after the war from all over the world including Brits started working in civilian jobs which were working class and had working clas roles including my grandfather. Their is nothing wrong with being working class and earning a living. We have a lot of polish working class people today in the uk who are builders and tradesman, its a good decent and honest living. So stop bashing us Brits like we are prejudice or something and shut your face.
@@johnmcsmith541 I think you are also missing a point about the 'working class'. The problem is not that your average Joe from a Polish village was working class in the UK after the war but what happened to many of the higher officers, cryptologists, engineers. Sosabowski who was one of the pioneers of paratroop forces in Europe and a lot of his experience was used to train your paratroopers ended up as warehouse worker moving boxes from one place to another. Maczek had to become a barman. Cryptologists, intelligence officers who worked for the British throughout the war (and were responsible for supplying British with intelligence on the Germans, btw 3/4 of all intelligence reports from the continent came from Polish source) were given training for equally crappy jobs in the Polish resettlement corps. You get it? People who could be mathematics professors instead got to move boxes or pour drinks at your local pub. Good that you reasured me there is nothing wrong with that....
look -South African Sanctuary For Polish Refugees Aka South Africa Provides Sanctuary (1939) -Artwork by a Polish Survivor of Soviet Deportations to Siberia
The Poles were not reckless but ruthless. They were well trained in Poland, battle experienced from two air campaigns which was a Darwinian process and psychologically determined to fight the enemy: Revenge or rather retribution? The Poles fought in hunting pairs instead of trios which was the RAF practice. That meant that a RAF squadron of 12 pilots would have 4 attackers with 8 wingman whereas the Poles would have 6 attackers and 6 wingman. A more efficient use of resources.
I respect the Polish pilots(both fighter or bomber pilots) very much! They risked their lives fought fiercely for the British empire in the skies of Britain/Germany while their homeland was under German occupation! And they got nothing at the end of WW2 because their home country Poland was still under occupation and it was a done deal ! This time was the USSR!
lol umm the poles lasted 34 days and then formed the partisans, the french with a massive wall and modern equipment and a greater number of tanks, air force and men then the Germans, fell in 23 days and did not form a rebellion. Poland was also hit from 2 sides with a bigger force. One hit by a small force and jut broke. The weaker one hit by 2 larger forces and fought on well... Stick to cooking France, sometimes its ok...
They been dumpt by Churhill and end up training Pakistani air force. Britain didnt want them after war. They could not even to go on victory parage. Now Pakistan Airforce is one of Best on the World!
Did you know this??? Total maintenance costs of the Polish Air Force in 1939-1945. Funds allocated by His Majesty's Government to the Polish Government as a loan of £ 9,606,000 Funds intended for: airplanes, engines, equipment, materials for operational flights and training, food, uniforms, accommodation, fuel, light, transport, medical assistance, materials for maintenance and maintenance aircraft, including fuel, bombs, ammunition, explosives. Use of airport installations such as hangars, workshops, offices etc. until December 31, 1945 £ 90,044,000 Total £ 107,650,000. Everything was covered from the reserves of Polish gold deposited in Canada. We we had to pay for defending UK not only with our lives but also with hard currency.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Without Poles and Americans England would be speaking German. And that's only fitting because the House of Windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha until the Germans started bombing London in WWI with Gotha bombers.
The sergeant in the clip at 6:47 was the father of my classmate at school. He showed me his medals from 5 different countries, including the USA. He was completely humble and was later an airfield inspector. He had a logbook with a huge number of flying hours.
The Poles were outstanding and many other airman from defeated European countries also fought but where were the French? Why did they not fly their aircraft to Britain to assist in liberating their homeland?
A lot of the French air force sacrificed themselves trying to stop the Germans in May 1940, & in protecting the BEF as best they could in a dire situation. They deserve respect, and NOT scant regard.
@@bluerock4456 Some displayed outstanding bravery and patriotism but it is more than disappointing that their numbers were so scant. The French had plenty of good fighter aircraft that were not deployed and eventually fell into German hands because they allowed them to be captured. Disgraceful.
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH Poland and Ireland. We are brothers both 🥰 even in Poland we have very famous song ,,I love you like Ireland”. Ireland is favourite country for us. Polish people loves Ireland and I hope that Irish people like polish people as well🥰
A Polish Officer bailed out over England somewhere and came down in a tennis court where they needed another to make up ‘doubles’ - they made him a member instantly, made him sign the book, and lent him some tennis whites, and he played the game with them! True - according to indy Nidal of y/t ‘the war against humanity’.
The French not only didn't want the Poles to fly in May/June 1940. They didn't let their own countrymen fly too! France had twice as much planes as Germany and after the capitulation, Wehrmacht found around 2000 French planes still intact in their bases, never even taken out to the airfield. Same with tanks, Navy and artillery. They simply gave up in the very begginign in their majority (with glorious exceptions) with the government refusing to continue the fight from the Colonies and signing a separatist peace act. How come they were regarded as a "power" in 1945. Pathetic.
+ When they (the French) had the chance to push into German territory, they got in a few kilometres then retreated to nothing because most German troops were in the East attacking the smaller countries. They could have won the war before America even joined.
@@goofygelad True! The French were just too careful when invading Germany. If i remember correctly there was a battle between a group of French tanks and wehrmacht soldiers with anti tank guns (wich weren't that effective against the french tanks that were deployed during that battle). The French tanks were afraid to push forward because of fear for german Panzers, despite none actually being present. They essentially were like: "we have to attack them!" "But what if they fight back?" (As said by, if i remember correctly, Oversimplified)
Franch even have fatory of Cyklone B... movie on planette tv was showing this when and where it was ...alliants work for...gernans Like Hugo Boss make uniforms for waffen ss...wery popula exclusive perfume in ..uk now.. so sad!
Any Polish person would have my respect and my best wishers because of what these blokes did during the war and back in their own country during that time the Polish people copped too much. Yes any polish person would be welcomed into my home.
It actually could have been worse knowing your sense of humor, you could simply have sent Poles to Murmansk to teach Soviet pilots to how to use Hurricane. Now just one request probably, declassify documents and release the news reels showing Polish pilots. Let us pay respect to our heroes. Much love
Such a terrible, cowardly and shameful blot on our own history and national pride when we completely betrayed Poland affer the war handing it on a plate to Russia.
This video made me upset beyond belief. Why no word about how badly Britain treated the Polish pilots at war's end? These brave men were literally kicked out of Britain to face the stifling and sometimes brutal treatment by Stalin in their native homeland. That glossing over of this despicable chapter in British war history by the Imperial War Museum has forced me to rescind my subscription to this channel. Bad form, Imperial War Museum, bad form indeed.
I had the pleasure to sit with one of these brave men he fought in this conflict and flew as a polish pilot he had a book he guarded with his life that probably had some crazy stuff in it.... He then fought in the us genorational later in our conflict as a us pilot
I don't want to comment on how Poland was treated politically after the war and since but I just want to say I'm proud of the Poles who fought alongside us in our hour of need and helped defeat the Luftwaffe when it seemed improbable. Just imagine.
Everything the English is writing and saing about Poles and Polish pilots is beautiful and expresses their gratitude for their help. ... it is a pity that then after the war in 1946, Poles were excluded from participating in the London parade of winners.
I can't remember ever seeing East Europeans involved in Remembrance Sunday. Though representatives of India, Canada, Nigeria etc should have been there too. I can't remember seeing them there either.
Really? So why they Never send any letter on WW2 celebrations to Polosh weterans or familys of Divisions 303 306 309..we fight for them save them few times.. Just small history reminder of Battle of Wienna Battle of Wizna 40-1
The Poles defended Great Britain, sacrificed their own lives and, in return, were handed over to Stalin, and the Polish government received a bill for fuel, ammunition and the lease of airplanes ... that is forgotten today ... damn you
My friends grandad was a British Air Force pilot during the Battle of Britain. My mate told me once that his grandfather mentioned that after a German pilot the polish pilots if they didn’t have any bullets left in their fighter they would fly their planes right into enemy and bail out lol. He told us because the Germans were back home killing their families and all.
Polish tankers also help in liberating Nederland with gen. Maczek and his soldiers freed Axel and Terneuzen. Polish soldiers fought on any front and had the biggest underground state during WW2.
Polish pilots refused to take part in VE celebrations as their army and navy personnel had NOT been invited because of Stalin's hatred of the Poles and complicity of some in the "British establshment".
i'm polish and I'm very proud what Poland did to help Britain in world war 2, when i joined high school in Britain i was a year 7 and i was shocked about what the kids said in my school, they where racist to me and saying things that Poland did nothing to help Britain and so on, i was very angry because i asked them where they got that from and they told me there history teacher told them everything about world war 2 witch they where so wrong because the history teacher was only teaching us how Britain was so powerful and that they saved London from Nazi Germany and that they got little help, i seen that he was a very proud British citizen, i asked him if he can teach the class about how Poland helped Britain and all he said sure thing witch the only thing he teach the class is how polish people where taking to camps and getting killed sooo yeahhhh my history teacher is a bit dumb
It was downright racist, only Anglo Saxons know how to for God's sake when fighter command is, training it's Jockeys to let them have it at some dumb range, the Poles hold their fire till. We betrayed them come the end of it. Atlee doesn't have the morals to invite them to the Parade God forgive us
Well, if you read history you'll get the idea why Poland was so quickly overrun in Blitzkrieg. It's because until 1918 there was no Poland and this year marked it's return to the map, so all in all the interim period of 20 years before the two wars was a relatively short one. Poland was just starting to develop when it got hit again and Hitler needed a quick victory which is always attainable when you attack the weaker opponent first. However, there were certain opportunities for the Polish army to take an advantage of and take the fight to Germans but due to a series of really bad decisions made by the government and military figure heads it was what it was...
Well there wosn't polish gov in Poland If you want truth even nov there is not Polish gov but it is a bit differend story but werry similar situation.. words traitors is the key. Like Enigma decode was the key on WAR time ..i can't even emagine if there wasn't Polish and others pilots or Enigma decoders.. germany wilk take over europe or more Just a remind another facts... Battle of Wienna Battle of Wizna 40-1
That is an insult to the hundreds of NON Polish pilots who fought and died in the Battle of Britian. It is also an insult to the fantastic Polish pilots who also fought!
. 303 Squadron RAF, also known as the 303rd "Tadeusz Kościuszko Warsaw" Fighter Squadron,[a] was one of two Polish squadrons to fight during the Battle of Britain along with No. 302 Squadron, of 16 total Polish squadronsin the Royal Air Force (RAF) during the Second World War. Flying Hawker Hurricanes, the squadron claimed the largest number of aircraft shot down of the 66 Allied fighter squadrons engaged in the Battle of Britain, even though it joined the fray two months after the battle had begun
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Thank you for setting the record straight. I was born in 49 when the second WW was over, but for years I heard stories from my father about Polish airmen and aircrew, as my father used to repair, maintain and test fly aircraft. He had the utmost respect for the brave Poles and maintained lifelong friendships with two of them. There is some bitter 'Brit bashing' going on with some of the comments, which seems to be 'par for the course' - where is the bond of loyalty between old comrades? Have the Woke W⚓s infiltrated even the bands of brothers who should have each others' backs after fighting side by side in the same battles? We civilians can never fully thank the brave soldiers, sailors and airmen who fought for us, these men and women gave everything, their future, their lives. We had a bond of deep respect and friendship - ignorance of true facts should not be allowed to spoil that.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 "One of the main factors ensuring their success was aggressive and flexible tactics, better adjusted to fight with the Luftwaffe than the tactics of British pilots. The official tactics of the RAF assumed using standard, disciplined formations. It did not correspond to the specifics of modern fighter combat." T. JUSTIN BRONDER "Development of Tactics of the Royal Air Force Fighter Aircraft in the Years 1914-1940"
They were the highest 'claimers', but claims do not equal 'actuals'. Modern research shows that 603 Squadron was the top scoring squadron during the Battle of Britain. Forget the myths, and look into the reality...
I heard somewhere that there were a few Brits who flew in the Battle of Britain too, is that correct I wonder? Yes, when claims were compared to documented luftwaffe losses then 603 squadron seemed likely to have the most kills. Spitfires from Hornchurch?
@@Pokafalva Are you seriously calling war heroes petty liars? Lovely... For what purpuse would they exaggarate, I'm curious? To impres you? Or friends and families back in Poland (considering they were even alive)? The nerve of some people...
@@creepPOL I'm not calling them 'petty liars', so don't put words into my mouth. That is disingenuous of you. If you know about the Battle of Britain, then you would know that overclaiming occurred on both sides. From the ridiculous claims for Stukas on 16th and 18th August 1940 by Fighter Command squadrons, to the claims of having shot down 51 RAF aircraft in a single day by the Luftwaffe unit Zerstörergeschwader 26. All units overclaimed - that's fact of life in aerial combats such as took place in the summer of 1940 when large formations of defending fighters took on large formations of attacking Luftwaffe bombers and fighters. With over 40 years of research and writing about that period, I would suggest I know more about the Battle of Britain than you will ever know, so I suggest you get hold of modern works on the subject and improve your knowledge considerably. Try 'The Battle of Britain Combat Archive' by Simon Parry, published by Red Kite Publications, for starters, a series that I am a main contributor to. Get Stephen Bungay's 'The most dangerous enemy' also, which is an excellent work on the Battle. Then come back when you know what you are talking about, OK? The nerve of some people...
These videos are incredible. Author never forgets to mention ill treatment of Poles, Czech and Slovaks once they cam back home but always there is no mentioning that British "gentleman" asked those two governments to pay ALL expenses including uniforms, planes, all bullets fired etc. of the pilots and staff "allowed to fight" for Britain.
Not all Polish airplanes were obsolete - P 37 Łoś (Moose) bombers were modern and exported to Romania which used them against USSR later in war. However fighters designed in early 1930s were indeed outclassed already when war started few short years later.
Poles paid the the price of victory not only by their lives...After the war, a bill for over 68 million pounds sterling, covering the equipment and operating costs of the Polish Air Force in Great Britain, was paid from the Polish gold reserves deposited in Canada...
"Because we do not beg for Freedom. We fight for it!" - Witold Urbanowicz of 303 Kosciuszko Squadron. Then, again, we were betreyed by the "allies". Sold in yalta by churchil and roosvelt to the soviets. in 1944 churchil in a meeting with polish PM said in anger: we dont need you! We can win this war on our own! Go figure... The betreyal of the most loyal ally...
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 You have no idea what you are talking about. Zip. None. Then again, it seems as though you have been brainwashed by leftist propaganda. Also, you know as much about history as adolf about democracy. Or stalin about human rights. I could go on...
I don't wanna comments this but I wanna said in memory and big bow towards to squadron 303 and for all other fighters who lost their life fighting in WW2 for better lives our life
@@darknight9302after war he return to Poland and communists bring him to jail. Only reason was the fact, that he was't communist. Many od Polish soldier who return to Poland were on prison or killed. Fuck communism
The Polish ground crews re-aligned the wing-mounted guns so their fire converged at much closer range than with the standard British setup. The small .30 cal ball rounds were much more effective at the close range used by the Poles compared to the longer range initially used by the Brits.
Let us not forget the sacrifice these men (and their womenfolk) made to liberate Europe. And let us not forget how shabbily they were treated afterwards!!!
The battle at the river of Wizna we lost but had a kill to death ratio of 40:1, the air battle of Poland we lost but using obsolete fighters we had a kill to death ratio of 2:1. In conclusion we are very good at loosing but giving the enemy quite the beating when fighting on our home turf. I love my country 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
All that work for nothing. Poland still wasn't free after 1945. It's disappointing and heart breaking. These people put so much effort to win the war and got nothing back in return. We shall never forget the beave Polish piolets and also all the others piolets coming from all over Europe to save Britain, changing the course of history forever. ❤️🇵🇱
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 people in occupied territoires went from country to country because they wanted to fight the Nazis. I am correct, go and read about it. About the Polish piolets, about the soilders who went to Britain to defend the last pieces of land against the Nazis.
'We shall never forget the beave Polish piolets and also all the others piolets coming from all over Europe to save Britain, changing the course of history forever.' Getr real. Overseas pilots made up one in five of Fighter Command pilots in the Battle of Britain. Britain won the Battle of Britain by a country mile. That 20% did not make the didfference between victory and defeat.
How could Poland fight at the same time against two of the biggest military powers of the time, Germany and Soviet Union. Even if they had the best airplanes there were no chances to beat both of them. France and Great Britain were supposed to enter the war when Poland was attacked, but they didn't.
After September 17, the ratio of forces in soldiers was 1: 6, in Armas, tanks, airplanes from 1: 7 to 1:20. Despite everything, they fought up to 6 October 1939, but not everyone made a weapon. The Capital Act did not sign any of any of - the fight lasted until 1989
I live now in free Poland so I can answer your question on an example of my grandfathers: one was a military men (artillery) and was fighting Germans, the other, on the other part of Poland was a guerilla fighter and was fighting Soviets.
NOT true, CDA. Great Britain honoured the treaty & declared war on Nazi Germany on Sept. 3. Other allies soon followed. e.g. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
@@stevenandrewedwardsedwards3080 Britain declared war on Germany, true, but one cannot throw words at the enemy. Poland needed actual physical support, such as weapons & ammunition. Had Germany and France provided actual physical support, this might have dissuaded the Soviets from attacking in mid-September. the war might have ended much sooner, and with far less death and destruction, even for Britain and France.
It was just and just due to these POLISH Fighter Pilots British or the so called RAF won the War. It’s my firm believe that had Adolf Hitler taken you Polish Fighter Pilots in his stride and formed the Luftwaffe am very confident RAF would not have stood a chance of Victory and would have fallen to its knee's within three to four day's or maximum in a week's time. Very sad indeed but just as expected Britain showed its true colours for not acknowledging the role that you or the soldiers belonging from other parts of this world particularly from India, Africa, and Middle East played in all the three wings of its armed forces during World War 2.
Great respect #PAF 🇵🇱 Geniuses Pilots.Great respect #RAF 🏴 Great for good cooperation 🕊️Respect for history and relationships 🇵🇱🤝🏴 Great respect for good future 🕊️ BOWS ! Thank you for Freedom #International cooperation for education, culture, tradition and history #International cooperation to protect the memory of Air Force Heroes Great respect for honor, dignity and strenght for General Władysław Sikorski 🇵🇱 #Elite ⭐
My maternal grandfather was 11 when the war started, so obviously never served. He had a real kids view of things, he remembers it as excising. He lived near Coventry in the industrial midlands, plane spotting was his hobby. My paternal grandfather was in the Navy and never talked about the war - saw a lot of action against the Japanese in the east😢
God's teeth Poles heroic in the air by land, by Sea we throw Poland to, the dogs. Atlee rubs salt into it. If, ever a nation had earned it's place in, our victory it's Poland. Yet Atlee, refuses, to let them participate in the victory parade, sheer bloody appeasement, Clement Atlee
Typically imperial war museum tosh, the surviving rump of the Polish air force all put into mainly 2 squadrons, with thousands of flying hours experience, Raf pilots at the time were relative new straight from flying school with 150 hours and even less. The raf had lost about 500 fighter pilots in the war up to the b of b, having been in the war far longer and having seen far more combat. In France only 10% of polish pilots saw any action, that's having flown at least one sortie. When your national air force no longer exists you need to be looking for a job, else push a brush. Polish kills claims for 303 squadron were over 200 originally, then reduced to 141, then confirmed by polish historians to be around 58.8 or 55-60, 58.8 is usually taken as the figure. Of these 17 were by the Czech frantisek (17 claimed when the total claims were 200+) and 3 by brit/ethnic brits (can) so giving 38.8 by poles in 303. With 14 kills by poles in 302 and let's gift them 5.2 by poles mixed in with other squadrons to give a tidy 58 kills by poles in the b of b out of 1883 luftwaffe losses and 10 Italian losses. Frantisek was not the top score with 17 kills, mostly slow undefended light bombers, Eric lock was with 20.5, 17 of which were bf109s. Frantisek was aged 26 with 6 years of flying experience (flying hurricanes) and lock was 21 in his first year of flying (flying spitfires).
Most important monents Divisiins 303 309 306 and enigma decode hudge impact to stoo germans! Like Battle of Wienna 1610 and protect europe from... And onky one Army in history who went Moscov another time went berlin... Who else went there with army? Thete is a lot more about ..but who cates???
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Love Poland and the polish people , my town has a lot of poles in now including some fine polish food shops , much respect from a Brit 🇬🇧🇵🇱
Nice one!
Love UK and English people, my town doesn't have a lot of English people in now but I wish it had, much respect from a Pole PL ;*
Poland not yet lost
@@christophermcguire7888 not whole we still live
all Polish Dywizjon in english
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"Never were so many betrayed by so few for so little." Unknown RAF officer after Yalta Conference 1945
This is a lie. Made up story and i don’t even think you understand what you just wrote.
@@Lukas-go2wv "Splain, please.
Yalta: FDR handoff to butcher Stalin Eastern Europe for a generation; show trials, murders, injustice and all.
@@Lukas-go2wv it's true "Never were so many betrayed by so few for so little." Unknown RAF officer after Yalta Conference 1945
You guys really think they came to help ? They came to fight agains nazis so you superior UK Nation coul live...You really dont understand.
@@zbigniewkisielinski9841 cos wiecej,jakis link?nazwisko
Us Brits owe so much to these Polish, Czech lads.
You owe just a memory. It is honestly surprising to me as polish living in uk for so long that majority of people don’t know anything about Squadron 303 and other important events from ww2 where Poland was involved like cracking enigma code, Warsaw uprising or how much Poland sacrificed and lost in the past for greater good, that our country was „reset” and it took years to recover from both invaders and catch up with others on many grounds. Poland was a battlefield. And if anyone is interested they can look online for numbers showing the difference and also how polish people were treated afterwards ( not saying people in general but there were some important incidents caused by individuals). And i am not saying this to take any credit as i was not there nor other poles living now and also not saying we are the only one who fought, but i am just annoyed sometimes when we polish people not only in UK but in other countries too are pictured as drunk uneducated kurwa swearing people just because they have seen some individuals. Other countries also have people like that and it doesn’t mean everyone is the same.
Well said sir respect to you 👍
And the Aussies, Kiwis & Canucks who were a significant part of the RAF in 1940 & beyond.
Vice versa
@@Lukas-go2wv go to BofB and do some refurbishment on it
It's so awful and unforgivable how Poland was abandoned by Britain to appease Starlin. The Polish people did so much for us.
Sadly, Churchill had little option when the War ended. Whilst we still had an effective Army, Navy and Airforce, the UK was on it's knees in all other respects and at Yalta was outmaneuvered by Roosevelt as well as Stalin.
However I do agree that denying the Poles their rightful place in the Victory Parade was a shameful act of appeasement to Stalin.
Lucky you weren't the Prime Minister at the time. How many more millions would you have sent to their death? Britain and France were broken at the end of the war and you would have had us declare war on the Russians. What a joke.
What you talking about, We went to war becuase Germany invaded poland.
@@CB-fz3li As always, beautiful example of English ignorance. In Poland it's common known fact, that we can't count on u since 2nd World War.
Also, pls declassify documments about gen. Sikorski's murder, my english friend.
@@PaddyThePole Please tell me what I said that was wrong? Do you think the western allies should have declared war on Russia? Anyway Churchill was always the most pro Polish of the allies. Roosevelt ignored his efforts at Yalta to support a democratic Poland in favour of siding with Stalin in return for a promise of help against Japan.
MY POLISH BROTHERS .
I LOVE YOU .FROM A HUMBLE ENGLISHMAN XX
303 SQ.❤
Love you too, mate/
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Thank you !
God bless the Polish pilots who defended this island. My father was Polish who made his home in England after the war. He was with the Polish free army. He always told me he would cut off his right arm for England who gave him sanctuary after the War. He loved England and it's people.
Polish squadrons had the highest kill ratio in the whole RAF during the whole war... with the Lowest losses ratio. Just sayin.🤷♂️🤦♂️
Yeah and that’s a good thing
Polish air squadrons had the best k/d ratio of the whole raf
There are some in England tryingb to change history and say that's not true. We have to stand up and fight against these new fabrications.
Not the whole raf, no😂 we ain’t trying to change anything. Why do you all hate us but you all live here?
@@claretormerod8220 "Had it not been for the magnificent material contributed by the Polish squadrons and their unsurpassed gallantry," wrote Air Chief Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding, head of RAF Fighter Command, "I hesitate to say that the outcome of the Battle (of Britain) would have been the same." I think those people knew more about the war than you. Please listen to people that where there. Greatings from Canada.
Facing odds of 6, 8, 10:1
Polish Pilots: "well, then it's a fair fight"
Witness Bismarck and Polish craft furiously signalling to German craft "I am Polish". Amazed the Polish vessel able to steam past (and survive) with those large b88s in the water..
@@robertbruce7686 It was Polish destroyer ORP Piorun charging the battleship Bismarck during tha battle when the mighty Bismarck was sunk.
@@jasse803 thank you for useful information. Truly.
@@robertbruce7686 No worries mate, happy to be able to "provide" some interesting (hopefully) details.
Poland and Czech Republic we are central europe not east!!
Bartosz Gurdak Geographically you are right, politically you are wrong .... i czy nam się to podoba czy nie jesteśmy wschodnią częścią Europy dla zachodu ..... kulturowo powinniśmy być zaliczeni do zachodniej Europy, ponieważ mamy alfabet łaciński ... ale polityka jest ważniejsza ..... niestety
Yes
Whether you are central or west and not east does not matter. What really matters is that the bravery and sacrificing of their lives by your ancestors was not acknowledged by the Government or by its people of the so called country Great Britain or today’s United Kingdom.
It always had an EGO that the sun does not set on its Empire and still love to sing or hear till date.
Though they call themselves United Kingdom but it’s an open secret on know how the Scott's got humiliated by the rest of Britain be it their dress or accent of English. That’s the bloody Truth
Long live the king Queen Prince Etc. Etc. buts goes from door to door of each and every country that it once ruled with a “BEGGING BOWL". Such is the condition of theirs that their own present PM does not have a comb to comb his hair, always messed up and looks like he has just woken up from his sleep and straight away headed to his office
@@slawomirw4701 politically you are wrong??? buhahahaha mayby for last 200 years and only for russian part of partition
@@konradadamczyk5755 mu chyba chodziło o Słowian ^^
Że Słowianie politycznie są wschodem europy ;P
No words about "allies" totally ignoring Polish army forces in a victory parade at the end of the war? For 60 YEARS. I see.
The excuse was that they did not want to upset Stalin. No excuse was acceptable and I am embarrassed that my countrymen attended that ceremony
Have you ever heard of 'POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY ? THE ALLIES WERE STILL TRYING TO GET THE BEST DEAL FOR EASTERN EUROPE, WITH IT'S 3 MILLION SOVIET FULLY ARMED TROOPS OCCUPYING IT. UPSETTING MAD STALIN AT THAT TIME, WOULD HAVE CAUSED EVEN WORSE REACTIONS. HE'D HAVE TAKEN ANY ALLIED PRAISE OF SUCH COUNTRIE'S AS AN INSULT. SHAME, BUT WE HAVE MADE UP FOR IT, IN EVERY FILM AND DOCUMENTARY ON THE SUBJECT, SINCE, SO THERE THERE.
Yes it was a disgrace to ignore their contributions to Great Britain ... The British with Churchill 's approval chose to appease Stalin instead and the back stabbing Communists. Poland got the shaft as usual.
@@MrDaiseymay that's a complete lie. Check Gomberg's map. Created before battle of Stallingrad began
@@MrDaiseymay ''3 MILLION SOVIET FULLY ARMED'' this just shows how uneducated the west is about WW2. Russia was on the verge of bankruptcy. There was around 1 gun for 5 soldiers etc. Do you think they could afford another war with the US-GB-FR?? And Caps of cos you sound like an angry teenager.
If anyone deserves a statue in central London, it is Polish fighter pilots. Shot down 14% of Luftwaffe losses during the Battle of Britain - won by such fine margins.
That's right when I was in London 40 years ago - I thought so - th-cam.com/video/ivgCD31iKyg/w-d-xo.html
About 3.1% actually, you shouldn't take anything said in this video seriously, the imperial War museum are renowned for historical inaccuracies. and most kills were slow flying light bombers.
Correction. . . actually its less than that, if my memory serves me right, 3 of 302 squadrons kills were by brits, so 14 kills by poles in 302 not 17.
The poles had lost their homes, and families, and as the saying goes, “fear the one who has lost everything, for he will fight to the very end” (or something like that)
I think I heard the version, "Beware the one with nothing to lose", but the meaning is the same.
Not only the Battle of Britain, The Poles fought gallantly all over Europe. Market Garden and Battle of Monte Cassino to name a couple battles. Polish soldiers who fought at Monte Cassino were no ordinary conscripts, drafted and sent to Italy. Most had been forcibly removed from their homes by the Russians, sent to Siberia to labour camps, endured near starvation and escaped on foot to Iran to join the Free Polish Forces as part of the Allied effort.
Italy: On May 18 at noon, a victorious white-and-red flag was hoisted on the Monte Cassino hill. The assault cost the lives of 923 Polish soldiers, 2931 were wounded, and 345 were never found. The Battle of Monte Cassino was a testimony to Polish bravery and sacrifice. The Battle of Monte Cassino was one of the hardest fought battles of the war costing the allies more than twice the casualties of the axis powers. The sad part is that driving the Germans from Italy is hardly mentioned when speaking of the war
@@brinkee7674 gen Sosabowski who led Polish soldiers in the Market Garden, was later on scapegoatet for the failure of the operation as Montgomery's ego could stand the blame.
Monty was poor chief cammander, good that Patton took over.
Jeszcze Polska nie zgiela/ Poland is not yet lost!
When we Poles live
*zginęła
ostał sie tylko kaczka i jego paczka:(
And they got betrayed ace of exile
Imagine the drive, the courage of these people. “Oh our country has fallen, no matter. Let’s risk life and limb to avenge our mother land in Britain”. Men and women of steel in their veins! In Irish they were Na Fianna!
Let me put this that way. We are fighting for freedom. Ours and yours. Same in Ukraine, they used to be in the same country. Same spirit.
Most of them fought in the Battel of France too. They escaped TWO occupied countries, made it across the English Channel to have another chance while leaving their homeland and families behind to fight against the Luftwaffe. Absolute legends.
Never ever say to Poles that they are from eastern Europe. We are in CENTRAL Europe.
Yep, You can't be more in centre of Europe than We are
@Luva Fyta North Afrika.
no need to get pressed
nah you can still say that
Haha you are just as touchy about that as most of the Czechs are. We were on the eastern side of the iron curtain, so - politically - Poland and Czechoslovakia were in the Eastern Europe while Finland and Austria were in the Western Europe.
Yes They did very well Nothing much saying about what happened after 1945 They get sold out by big drunk Churchill and F.D.R to BOLSHEVIKS Nice way to rewarded this brave pilots Half of the Europe was occupied by Soviets until 1989 Thanks for posting this video God bless You all
Another one bashing the brits, The Polish pilots have a place in our hearts and we are all proud that they flew with the RAF. Ask any brit who knows the story and they will tell you that.
Also they didnt all get treated badly at all. As the video even said, a lot of them choose to stay in britain and become flight instructors and stay with the RAF. They were honered by the Brits. When the soviets took control of Poland after the war, what did you expect Britain to do, Invade Russia. There was nothing we could do. We were a country that had lost its empire and were broke. So not being able to do anything is not the same choosing not to do anything.
Britain went to war in the first place because Germany invaded Poland. Also the brits was the ones that gave the poles the oppertunity to fight in the war. Yes Britain got great warriors out of it but they also gave the polish the chance to fight as well, it was win, win all round in that respect.
Brits love the poles and we have memorials in our country that we pay tribute to for their bravery and sacrifice. Also a lot of forces personel who left the service after the war from all over the world including Brits started working in civilian jobs which were working class and had working clas roles including my grandfather. Their is nothing wrong with being working class and earning a living. We have a lot of polish working class people today in the uk who are builders and tradesman, its a good decent and honest living. So stop bashing us Brits like we are prejudice or something and shut your face.
Lets reverse the situation. Do you think that Poles would go and fight for liberation of some country on the other side of the world? Why they should do that?
In the same sense, why do you think Americans or Brits should fight for liberation of Poland from the Soviets after the war? How would general command rationalize this to the people of USA, or British command rationalize this suicidal role? Going after Russia was impossible in that time. You need to have the laverage to force someone to do something, and the Russian army was massive. The war was over. There was no more killing. There was occupation, thats right. And that was a shame. But I dont think you can expect some other people on the other side of the world to fight for your freedom, as you would not expect Poles to go and fight for Indians in the USA, or for some African or South American country.
Talking as a Pole.
@@michasosnowski5918 Do you think that Poles would go and fight for liberation of some country on the other side of the world? - Polish soldiers after being sent to haitit with the french by napoleon helped haitians to fight the french off so yea they would
@@brutusz6708 Yes, but as you said "they were send". Its not like they organized themselves. And they fought for Haitans despite orders to fight for Napoleon, which is great. I am not saying you said differently, just commenting.
After the war, England treated Polish officers very badly. General Maczek and many others had to work as workers. This is not done.
Another one bashing the brits, The Polish pilots have a place in our hearts and we are all proud that they flew with the RAF. Ask any brit who knows the story and they will tell you that.
Also they didnt all get treated badly at all. As the video even said, a lot of them choose to stay in britain and become flight instructors and stay with the RAF. They were honered by the Brits. When the soviets took control of Poland after the war, what did you expect Britain to do, Invade Russia. There was nothing we could do. We were a country that had lost its empire and were broke. So not being able to do anything is not the same choosing not to do anything.
Britain went to war in the first place because Germany invaded Poland. Also the brits was the ones that gave the poles the oppertunity to fight in the war. Yes Britain got great warriors out of it but they also gave the polish the chance to fight as well, it was win, win all round in that respect.
Brits love the poles and we have memorials in our country that we pay tribute to for their bravery and sacrifice. Also a lot of forces personel who left the service after the war from all over the world including Brits started working in civilian jobs which were working class and had working clas roles including my grandfather. Their is nothing wrong with being working class and earning a living. We have a lot of polish working class people today in the uk who are builders and tradesman, its a good decent and honest living. So stop bashing us Brits like we are prejudice or something and shut your face.
Yes you’re right. If I’m write general maczek was a barman after the war until his death in the 90s
@@johnmcsmith541 I think you are also missing a point about the 'working class'. The problem is not that your average Joe from a Polish village was working class in the UK after the war but what happened to many of the higher officers, cryptologists, engineers. Sosabowski who was one of the pioneers of paratroop forces in Europe and a lot of his experience was used to train your paratroopers ended up as warehouse worker moving boxes from one place to another. Maczek had to become a barman. Cryptologists, intelligence officers who worked for the British throughout the war (and were responsible for supplying British with intelligence on the Germans, btw 3/4 of all intelligence reports from the continent came from Polish source) were given training for equally crappy jobs in the Polish resettlement corps. You get it? People who could be mathematics professors instead got to move boxes or pour drinks at your local pub. Good that you reasured me there is nothing wrong with that....
@@Sinistercabbage Kind of sad.
look
-South African Sanctuary For Polish Refugees Aka South Africa Provides Sanctuary (1939)
-Artwork by a Polish Survivor of Soviet Deportations to Siberia
The Poles were not reckless but ruthless. They were well trained in Poland, battle experienced from two air campaigns which was a Darwinian process and psychologically determined to fight the enemy: Revenge or rather retribution? The Poles fought in hunting pairs instead of trios which was the RAF practice. That meant that a RAF squadron of 12 pilots would have 4 attackers with 8 wingman whereas the Poles would have 6 attackers and 6 wingman. A more efficient use of resources.
I respect the Polish pilots(both fighter or bomber pilots) very much! They risked their lives fought fiercely for the British empire in the skies of Britain/Germany while their homeland was under German occupation! And they got nothing at the end of WW2 because their home country Poland was still under occupation and it was a done deal ! This time was the USSR!
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Poles didnt fight for British empire nor Britain. They fought for Poland and its freedom
lol umm the poles lasted 34 days and then formed the partisans, the french with a massive wall and modern equipment and a greater number of tanks, air force and men then the Germans, fell in 23 days and did not form a rebellion. Poland was also hit from 2 sides with a bigger force. One hit by a small force and jut broke. The weaker one hit by 2 larger forces and fought on well... Stick to cooking France, sometimes its ok...
Adam Ski , correct, actually outnumbering the Germans. And still they collapsed. 😂Pathetic
@@Jpriest13 it was more the fault of the generals than the soldiers to be honest
@@17daidai Ay the French and Brits got owned for lowering their guard around Belgium where Germans surrounded them and decimated them before dunkirk.
Always liked Polish people. So hard working and cheerful. Us Brits owe a lot to those Polish pilots ❤
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 I agree it works both ways. But they don't get the recognition they deserve. Whereas we do.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 that's kind of the problem though pal. It's only on YT comments. It doesn't get mentioned enough generally speaking.
Thank you... great respect and all the best from 🇵🇱🕊️🤝
They been dumpt by Churhill and end up training Pakistani air force. Britain didnt want them after war. They could not even to go on victory parage. Now Pakistan Airforce is one of Best on the World!
No, Rafal, they are not. Why do you think that the PAF (to use the English anacronym) never flies over Kashmir?
Did you know this???
Total maintenance costs of the Polish Air Force in 1939-1945.
Funds allocated by His Majesty's Government to the Polish Government as a loan of £ 9,606,000 Funds intended for: airplanes, engines, equipment, materials for operational flights and training, food, uniforms, accommodation, fuel, light, transport, medical assistance, materials for maintenance and maintenance aircraft, including fuel, bombs, ammunition, explosives. Use of airport installations such as hangars, workshops, offices etc. until December 31, 1945 £ 90,044,000
Total £ 107,650,000.
Everything was covered from the reserves of Polish gold deposited in Canada.
We we had to pay for defending UK not only with our lives but also with hard currency.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Without Poles and Americans England would be speaking German. And that's only fitting because the House of Windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha until the Germans started bombing London in WWI with Gotha bombers.
Damnnnnn :-O
Yes. and what was the human cost of Polish soldiers to defend GB and other western countries? Nothing at all.
I understand to appease Stalin the Poles were not allowed to march in the victory parades. That is a total disgrace.
The Poles were brilliant pilots with a very large axe to grind.
The sergeant in the clip at 6:47 was the father of my classmate at school. He showed me his medals from 5 different countries, including the USA. He was completely humble and was later an airfield inspector. He had a logbook with a huge number of flying hours.
Thankyou Poland!, from Australia.
Good luck for 🇦🇺 from 🇵🇱
All the best for good cooperation 🇵🇱🤝🇦🇺
Hey, Poles relieved Australian Rats Of Tobruk as well! And conquered Monte Cassino together with New Zealanders!
Being polish myself i think Polands help isnt being realised enough and not too many people know or mention the polish pilots
I tend to think the opposite to be honest. The Poles did a great job but they get far more coverage than other non British participants.
@@CB-fz3li No, Not true
Here in England we love hiding mistakes and only blowing our own trumpets . You must look yourself to learn our real history
The Poles were outstanding and many other airman from defeated European countries also fought but where were the French? Why did they not fly their aircraft to Britain to assist in liberating their homeland?
Some od the French Dix..but their numbers were smaller than Poles or Czechs
There was a French squadron based at RAF Elvington, near York.
They didn't fight much even for themselves, tbh.
A lot of the French air force sacrificed themselves trying to stop the Germans in May 1940, & in protecting the BEF as best they could in a dire situation. They deserve respect, and NOT scant regard.
@@bluerock4456 Some displayed outstanding bravery and patriotism but it is more than disappointing that their numbers were so scant. The French had plenty of good fighter aircraft that were not deployed and eventually fell into German hands because they allowed them to be captured. Disgraceful.
Love the UK from Poland 🇵🇱❤️🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧friends forever
Hey I’m from England. Pls say the UK next time because Scottish people will come and say they hate England and and ask for independence
@@DoubleAAce sure Thanks a lot I really love Scotland 🏴🏴🏴 so I will edit my comment and change it. Thanks a lot and I’m sorry 😀
You forgot also the Irish flag 🇮🇪.
@@TestTheSpiritsIfTheyAreOfYAH Poland and Ireland. We are brothers both 🥰 even in Poland we have very famous song ,,I love you like Ireland”. Ireland is favourite country for us. Polish people loves Ireland and I hope that Irish people like polish people as well🥰
You forget about 🇮🇪
Please remember about Johnny Kent "Kentowski" He was also important part of team 303 :)
A Polish Officer bailed out over England somewhere and came down in a tennis court where they needed another to make up ‘doubles’ - they made him a member instantly, made him sign the book, and lent him some tennis whites, and he played the game with them!
True - according to indy Nidal of y/t ‘the war against humanity’.
I recently read this in "A Question of Honor" haha
Never heard that before. How appropriate!
my gandfather worked with poles in battle of britan. he always like them a lot and even met with them in krakow in poland after 2 ww
The French not only didn't want the Poles to fly in May/June 1940. They didn't let their own countrymen fly too! France had twice as much planes as Germany and after the capitulation, Wehrmacht found around 2000 French planes still intact in their bases, never even taken out to the airfield. Same with tanks, Navy and artillery. They simply gave up in the very begginign in their majority (with glorious exceptions) with the government refusing to continue the fight from the Colonies and signing a separatist peace act. How come they were regarded as a "power" in 1945. Pathetic.
+ When they (the French) had the chance to push into German territory, they got in a few kilometres then retreated to nothing because most German troops were in the East attacking the smaller countries. They could have won the war before America even joined.
@@goofygelad True! The French were just too careful when invading Germany. If i remember correctly there was a battle between a group of French tanks and wehrmacht soldiers with anti tank guns (wich weren't that effective against the french tanks that were deployed during that battle). The French tanks were afraid to push forward because of fear for german Panzers, despite none actually being present. They essentially were like:
"we have to attack them!"
"But what if they fight back?"
(As said by, if i remember correctly, Oversimplified)
Franch even have fatory of Cyklone B... movie on planette tv was showing this when and where it was ...alliants work for...gernans
Like Hugo Boss make uniforms for waffen ss...wery popula exclusive perfume in ..uk now.. so sad!
And after capitulation of Germany all of the sudden great liberator de Gaulle appeared
they were true hiltler's alies. Jewish deportations, etc.
Any Polish person would have my respect and my best wishers because of what these blokes did during the war and back in their own country during that time the Polish people copped too much. Yes any polish person would be welcomed into my home.
It actually could have been worse knowing your sense of humor,
you could simply have sent Poles to Murmansk to teach Soviet pilots to how to use Hurricane.
Now just one request probably, declassify documents and release the news reels showing Polish pilots.
Let us pay respect to our heroes.
Much love
Poland was attacked by soviets /: so erm
Such a terrible, cowardly and shameful blot on our own history and national pride when we completely betrayed Poland affer the war handing it on a plate to Russia.
CENTRAL* Europe
This video made me upset beyond belief. Why no word about how badly Britain treated the Polish pilots at war's end? These brave men were literally kicked out of Britain to face the stifling and sometimes brutal treatment by Stalin in their native homeland. That glossing over of this despicable chapter in British war history by the Imperial War Museum has forced me to rescind my subscription to this channel. Bad form, Imperial War Museum, bad form indeed.
Another muppet parroting white.
A lot of polish soldiers where kicked out of England and the English people didn’t let them march after the war
Don't forget the Poles handed you Brits Enigma. Thanks, Poland!
And what did your country do in the war Larry?
I had the pleasure to sit with one of these brave men he fought in this conflict and flew as a polish pilot he had a book he guarded with his life that probably had some crazy stuff in it.... He then fought in the us genorational later in our conflict as a us pilot
I don't want to comment on how Poland was treated politically after the war and since but I just want to say I'm proud of the Poles who fought alongside us in our hour of need and helped defeat the Luftwaffe when it seemed improbable. Just imagine.
If you're proud of the Poles you would have capitalized Poles.
@@larrysmith6797 done
Nice one! - Respect! We always fight on right side...
Always fight for freedom..even not ours
But we always figh to the end...
Everything the English is writing and saing about Poles and Polish pilots is beautiful and expresses their gratitude for their help. ... it is a pity that then after the war in 1946, Poles were excluded from participating in the London parade of winners.
I can't remember ever seeing East Europeans involved in Remembrance Sunday. Though representatives of India, Canada, Nigeria etc should have been there too. I can't remember seeing them there either.
Really? So why they Never send any letter on WW2 celebrations to Polosh weterans or familys of Divisions 303 306 309..we fight for them save them few times..
Just small history reminder of
Battle of Wienna
Battle of Wizna 40-1
It wasn't just one squadron that fought. There were many Polish squadrons. 303 Squadron was the most famous because it was more than outstanding.
And so the Allies sold
Poland to
Soviet,to thanks us for the effort
if you think that you are commodity, it is your own fault.
My relative fought in 303 Squadron during the BoB. Rip Edward.
Sabaton Aces In Excile, 40:1, Uprising 1944, ...
Wizna 40-1
WIENNA 1610 - SAVED EUROPE ..AGAIN
And when a man feels like he hasn't nothing to lose it makes him very dangerous
My Father served with These Fine Men & Described Them As " Bloody Heroes"
@@daverbenson4834 my father also, he was training as RAAF ground crew. My dad told me he never met anyone who hated the Nazi’s more.
The Poles defended Great Britain, sacrificed their own lives and, in return, were handed over to Stalin, and the Polish government received a bill for fuel, ammunition and the lease of airplanes ... that is forgotten today ... damn you
no one was handed over to Stalin.
Go and play or put lipstick on your goat, troll.
Blame game again, everything in the world is Britain's fault right?
My friends grandad was a British Air Force pilot during the Battle of Britain. My mate told me once that his grandfather mentioned that after a German pilot the polish pilots if they didn’t have any bullets left in their fighter they would fly their planes right into enemy and bail out lol. He told us because the Germans were back home killing their families and all.
Great documentary but try and please pronounce the name of CZECHOSLOVAC Flight Sergeant Josef Františec correctly
Polish tankers also help in liberating Nederland with gen. Maczek and his soldiers freed Axel and Terneuzen. Polish soldiers fought on any front and had the biggest underground state during WW2.
Polish pilots refused to take part in VE celebrations as their army and navy personnel had NOT been invited because of Stalin's hatred of the Poles and complicity of some in the "British establshment".
Because British refused their Polish Uniforms.
2:47 The two Polish squadrons in the Battle of Britain, 302nd and 303rd, were only allowed to flew Hurricanes. 🙄 It could be considered sabotage.
",We don't beg for freedom, we fight for it"
i'm polish and I'm very proud what Poland did to help Britain in world war 2, when i joined high school in Britain i was a year 7 and i was shocked about what the kids said in my school, they where racist to me and saying things that Poland did nothing to help Britain and so on, i was very angry because i asked them where they got that from and they told me there history teacher told them everything about world war 2 witch they where so wrong because the history teacher was only teaching us how Britain was so powerful and that they saved London from Nazi Germany and that they got little help, i seen that he was a very proud British citizen, i asked him if he can teach the class about how Poland helped Britain and all he said sure thing witch the only thing he teach the class is how polish people where taking to camps and getting killed sooo yeahhhh my history teacher is a bit dumb
It was downright racist, only Anglo Saxons know how to for God's sake when fighter command is, training it's Jockeys to let them have it at some dumb range, the Poles hold their fire till. We betrayed them come the end of it. Atlee doesn't have the morals to invite them to the Parade God forgive us
Well, if you read history you'll get the idea why Poland was so quickly overrun in Blitzkrieg. It's because until 1918 there was no Poland and this year marked it's return to the map, so all in all the interim period of 20 years before the two wars was a relatively short one. Poland was just starting to develop when it got hit again and Hitler needed a quick victory which is always attainable when you attack the weaker opponent first. However, there were certain opportunities for the Polish army to take an advantage of and take the fight to Germans but due to a series of really bad decisions made by the government and military figure heads it was what it was...
Well, it was because Poland is basically flat with few geographic features to stop invaders. e.g. no Alps.
Well there wosn't polish gov in Poland
If you want truth even nov there is not Polish gov but it is a bit differend story but werry similar situation.. words traitors is the key.
Like Enigma decode was the key on WAR time ..i can't even emagine if there wasn't Polish and others pilots or Enigma decoders.. germany wilk take over europe or more
Just a remind another facts...
Battle of Wienna
Battle of Wizna 40-1
Before covid I supose to be now IMW volunteer. Im Polsih and Im proud of my polish airman
Poles, the REAL Few.
That is an insult to the hundreds of NON Polish pilots who fought and died in the Battle of Britian. It is also an insult to the fantastic Polish
pilots who also fought!
@@johnday6392correct, but Polish pilots ~ 20.000
@@zbigniewkisielinski9841 but there are thousands more from other countries
Typical Polish arrogance.
. 303 Squadron RAF, also known as the 303rd "Tadeusz Kościuszko Warsaw" Fighter Squadron,[a] was one of two Polish squadrons to fight during the Battle of Britain along with No. 302 Squadron, of 16 total Polish squadronsin the Royal Air Force (RAF) during the Second World War. Flying Hawker Hurricanes, the squadron claimed the largest number of aircraft shot down of the 66 Allied fighter squadrons engaged in the Battle of Britain, even though it joined the fray two months after the battle had begun
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Thank you for setting the record straight.
I was born in 49 when the second WW was over, but for years I heard stories from my father about Polish airmen and aircrew, as my father used to repair, maintain and test fly aircraft.
He had the utmost respect for the brave Poles and maintained lifelong friendships with two of them.
There is some bitter 'Brit bashing' going on with some of the comments, which seems to be 'par for the course' - where is the bond of loyalty between old comrades?
Have the Woke W⚓s infiltrated even the bands of brothers who should have each others' backs after fighting side by side in the same battles?
We civilians can never fully thank the brave soldiers, sailors and airmen who fought for us, these men and women gave everything, their future, their lives.
We had a bond of deep respect and friendship - ignorance of true facts should not be allowed to spoil that.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 "One of the main factors ensuring their success was aggressive and flexible tactics, better adjusted to fight with the Luftwaffe than the tactics of British pilots. The official tactics of the RAF assumed using standard, disciplined formations. It did not correspond to the specifics of modern fighter combat." T. JUSTIN BRONDER "Development of Tactics of the Royal Air Force Fighter Aircraft in the Years 1914-1940"
Polish 303 squadron alone made 20% of all Battle of Britain kills, with Czech Jozef František with 17 kills.
They were the highest 'claimers', but claims do not equal 'actuals'. Modern research shows that 603 Squadron was the top scoring squadron during the Battle of Britain. Forget the myths, and look into the reality...
I heard somewhere that there were a few Brits who flew in the Battle of Britain too, is that correct I wonder? Yes, when claims were compared to documented luftwaffe losses then 603 squadron seemed likely to have the most kills.
Spitfires from Hornchurch?
Claimed, not confirmed.
@@Pokafalva Are you seriously calling war heroes petty liars? Lovely... For what purpuse would they exaggarate, I'm curious? To impres you? Or friends and families back in Poland (considering they were even alive)?
The nerve of some people...
@@creepPOL I'm not calling them 'petty liars', so don't put words into my mouth. That is disingenuous of you. If you know about the Battle of Britain, then you would know that overclaiming occurred on both sides. From the ridiculous claims for Stukas on 16th and 18th August 1940 by Fighter Command squadrons, to the claims of having shot down 51 RAF aircraft in a single day by the Luftwaffe unit Zerstörergeschwader 26. All units overclaimed - that's fact of life in aerial combats such as took place in the summer of 1940 when large formations of defending fighters took on large formations of attacking Luftwaffe bombers and fighters. With over 40 years of research and writing about that period, I would suggest I know more about the Battle of Britain than you will ever know, so I suggest you get hold of modern works on the subject and improve your knowledge considerably. Try 'The Battle of Britain Combat Archive' by Simon Parry, published by Red Kite Publications, for starters, a series that I am a main contributor to. Get Stephen Bungay's 'The most dangerous enemy' also, which is an excellent work on the Battle. Then come back when you know what you are talking about, OK? The nerve of some people...
Disgraceful conduct by Britain.
In what way?
@@CB-fz3li in all help hey recived
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 wiedza jest podstawa
Historry from weterans..learn again from them
These videos are incredible. Author never forgets to mention ill treatment of Poles, Czech and Slovaks once they cam back home but always there is no mentioning that British "gentleman" asked those two governments to pay ALL expenses including uniforms, planes, all bullets fired etc. of the pilots and staff "allowed to fight" for Britain.
Sounds fair enough. Why exactly would they not be expected to contribute to the cost of the war?
this film has few scenes, the English do not want to see such documents, as they once did not want Poles at the victory parade, shame on England
Well said! Many thanks for truth!!!
Weterans are still alive and them famllies... never has any letter to celbrate wictory over nazi germans NEVER!
Not all Polish airplanes were obsolete - P 37 Łoś (Moose) bombers were modern and exported to Romania which used them against USSR later in war.
However fighters designed in early 1930s were indeed outclassed already when war started few short years later.
Poles paid the the price of victory not only by their lives...After the war, a bill for over 68 million pounds sterling, covering the equipment and operating costs of the Polish Air Force in Great Britain, was paid from the Polish gold reserves deposited in Canada...
Damn! That was certainly rude and disgraceful.
cheeky feckers.
And a lot tons of polish gold...
Just forgot abiut Enigma decode again..
Battle of Wienna
Battle of Wiazna 40-1
Just forgottten herous
This hits different after Brexit.
Because We Do Not Beg For Freedom .We Fight For It !
The problem at 1:00 was they were already getting ready to leave ;)
"Because we do not beg for Freedom. We fight for it!" - Witold Urbanowicz of 303 Kosciuszko Squadron.
Then, again, we were betreyed by the "allies". Sold in yalta by churchil and roosvelt to the soviets. in 1944 churchil in a meeting with polish PM said in anger: we dont need you! We can win this war on our own!
Go figure... The betreyal of the most loyal ally...
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 You have no idea what you are talking about. Zip. None. Then again, it seems as though you have been brainwashed by leftist propaganda. Also, you know as much about history as adolf about democracy. Or stalin about human rights. I could go on...
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I don't wanna comments this but I wanna said in memory and big bow towards to squadron 303 and for all other fighters who lost their life fighting in WW2 for better lives our life
Skalki was a polish ace who ended the war commanding a mix wing command of brits, americans and poles. After the war he was inprisoned for years.
Why?
@@darknight9302 Thanks to commies.
@@darknight9302after war he return to Poland and communists bring him to jail. Only reason was the fact, that he was't communist. Many od Polish soldier who return to Poland were on prison or killed. Fuck communism
034 at the beginning of this vid, is Brendan (paddy) Finucane (seated on the left)
Sadly lost, shot down in 1942.
The Polish ground crews re-aligned the wing-mounted guns so their fire converged at much closer range than with the standard British setup. The small .30 cal ball rounds were much more effective at the close range used by the Poles compared to the longer range initially used by the Brits.
Poland is not Eastern Europe. Look at the map of Europe, perhaps the Iron Curtain created this idea
Let us not forget the sacrifice these men (and their womenfolk) made to liberate Europe.
And let us not forget how shabbily they were treated afterwards!!!
The battle at the river of Wizna we lost but had a kill to death ratio of 40:1, the air battle of Poland we lost but using obsolete fighters we had a kill to death ratio of 2:1. In conclusion we are very good at loosing but giving the enemy quite the beating when fighting on our home turf. I love my country 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
We are very proud of our Polish pilots and all Polish forces.
All that work for nothing. Poland still wasn't free after 1945. It's disappointing and heart breaking. These people put so much effort to win the war and got nothing back in return. We shall never forget the beave Polish piolets and also all the others piolets coming from all over Europe to save Britain, changing the course of history forever. ❤️🇵🇱
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 people in occupied territoires went from country to country because they wanted to fight the Nazis. I am correct, go and read about it. About the Polish piolets, about the soilders who went to Britain to defend the last pieces of land against the Nazis.
'We shall never forget the beave Polish piolets and also all the others piolets coming from all over Europe to save Britain, changing the course of history forever.'
Getr real. Overseas pilots made up one in five of Fighter Command pilots in the Battle of Britain. Britain won the Battle of Britain by a country mile. That 20% did not make the didfference between victory and defeat.
How could Poland fight at the same time against two of the biggest military powers of the time, Germany and Soviet Union. Even if they had the best airplanes there were no chances to beat both of them. France and Great Britain were supposed to enter the war when Poland was attacked, but they didn't.
After September 17, the ratio of forces in soldiers was 1: 6, in Armas, tanks, airplanes from 1: 7 to 1:20. Despite everything, they fought up to 6 October 1939, but not everyone made a weapon. The Capital Act did not sign any of any of - the fight lasted until 1989
I live now in free Poland so I can answer your question on an example of my grandfathers: one was a military men (artillery) and was fighting Germans, the other, on the other part of Poland was a guerilla fighter and was fighting Soviets.
Poland attacked 1Sep Britain declared war 3 Sep . Not as bad as you portray .
NOT true, CDA. Great Britain honoured the treaty & declared war on Nazi Germany on Sept. 3. Other allies soon followed. e.g. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
@@stevenandrewedwardsedwards3080 Britain declared war on Germany, true, but one cannot throw words at the enemy. Poland needed actual physical support, such as weapons & ammunition. Had Germany and France provided actual physical support, this might have dissuaded the Soviets from attacking in mid-September. the war might have ended much sooner, and with far less death and destruction, even for Britain and France.
A relative through my grandmother was among the Polish pilots to fight for the Brits. Unfortunately, I do not know if he he 303rd or not.
It was just and just due to these POLISH Fighter Pilots British or the so called RAF won the War.
It’s my firm believe that had Adolf Hitler taken you Polish Fighter Pilots in his stride and formed the Luftwaffe am very confident RAF would not have stood a chance of Victory and would have fallen to its knee's within three to four day's or maximum in a week's time.
Very sad indeed but just as expected Britain showed its true colours for not acknowledging the role that you or the soldiers belonging from other parts of this world particularly from India, Africa, and Middle East played in all the three wings of its armed forces during World War 2.
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 303 Squadron began fighting in the Battle of Britain on 30 August.
One of the things was that the polish piolets had list there home so they probably felt like they had nothing to lose
why there is no polish subtitles?
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Thank you for Freedom
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My maternal grandfather was 11 when the war started, so obviously never served. He had a real kids view of things, he remembers it as excising. He lived near Coventry in the industrial midlands, plane spotting was his hobby. My paternal grandfather was in the Navy and never talked about the war - saw a lot of action against the Japanese in the east😢
God's teeth Poles heroic in the air by land, by Sea we throw Poland to, the dogs. Atlee rubs salt into it. If, ever a nation had earned it's place in, our victory it's Poland. Yet Atlee, refuses, to let them participate in the victory parade, sheer bloody appeasement, Clement Atlee
The best
No better than a lot of other RAF squadrons. All deserve equal respect.
Czech Republic was a part of our squad
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 were the same part
You was a mainly
From 1683 to 1940 and even to this past year Polish stand the line.
may i do a reaction to this love ue content💯🙌
Typically imperial war museum tosh, the surviving rump of the Polish air force all put into mainly 2 squadrons, with thousands of flying hours experience, Raf pilots at the time were relative new straight from flying school with 150 hours and even less. The raf had lost about 500 fighter pilots in the war up to the b of b, having been in the war far longer and having seen far more combat.
In France only 10% of polish pilots saw any action, that's having flown at least one sortie.
When your national air force no longer exists you need to be looking for a job, else push a brush.
Polish kills claims for 303 squadron were over 200 originally, then reduced to 141, then confirmed by polish historians to be around 58.8 or 55-60, 58.8 is usually taken as the figure.
Of these 17 were by the Czech frantisek (17 claimed when the total claims were 200+) and 3 by brit/ethnic brits (can) so giving 38.8 by poles in 303.
With 14 kills by poles in 302 and let's gift them 5.2 by poles mixed in with other squadrons to give a tidy 58 kills by poles in the b of b out of 1883 luftwaffe losses and 10 Italian losses.
Frantisek was not the top score with 17 kills, mostly slow undefended light bombers, Eric lock was with 20.5, 17 of which were bf109s.
Frantisek was aged 26 with 6 years of flying experience (flying hurricanes) and lock was 21 in his first year of flying (flying spitfires).
Most important monents Divisiins 303 309 306 and enigma decode hudge impact to stoo germans!
Like Battle of Wienna 1610 and protect europe from...
And onky one Army in history who went Moscov another time went berlin...
Who else went there with army? Thete is a lot more about ..but who cates???
they where very brave men