Land Rover Defender 90 vs Series 3 Off Road Challenge

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  • A mate and I decided to see which Land Rover would be best at climbing an incredibly slippery byway. We had a great time testing our Land Rovers, and I hope you enjoy the video.
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    Vinny
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  • @davidparry1982
    @davidparry1982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Nice to see a classic Landy doing what it was built for.

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely. The Series is fantastic 👌

  • @Club86
    @Club86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Lighter Series and skinnier tyres will always win! 😎 Watch those halfshafts though 👀

    • @johnpirie3800
      @johnpirie3800 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the answer?
      Skinnier tyres and locking the diffs?

    • @stephentillston1357
      @stephentillston1357 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s also on parabolics

    • @moiwilliams170
      @moiwilliams170 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      the tyres are skinny for a reason, to get grip

    • @greebo7857
      @greebo7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      S3 halfshafts were much stronger than IIAs.

    • @paulwest6262
      @paulwest6262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      24 splines halfshafts replaced the 12 splines in earlier series 1 and 2, 2a S3 don't break the shafts at the diff as easy.

  • @garethifan1034
    @garethifan1034 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Series III all the way. We used to own a diesel LWB III series reg no SUJ 472R.

  • @e3lehmann
    @e3lehmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Skinny tires for the win!

  • @tombulli1236
    @tombulli1236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    very cool: D. My father also drove a Land Rover 88 Series 3 Diesel ... that was a long time ago ..
    I'm already thinking about a Land Rover Series 3 suction diesel hole .. I've already found one .. I ask the dealer if he'll take my Suzuki Jimny FJ in payment.
    Question: Are Land Rover Series 3s vulnerable? I hear how robust they are ... is that correct? I'm thinking of the TDI 300 or a series 3 ... I think series 3 is more beautiful!
    Thanks for the answer, greetings from Germany :)
    sorry i'm not very good at english

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends if you want power assisted steering, if you do then I recommend an early Defender with a 200tdi engine, or a slightly later model with a 300tdi.
      The Series 3 is a very basic car and in my experience is very reliable when not modified. But you'll still need to keep on top of maintenance, as they will break occasionally.
      I also highly recommend upgrading the heater in a Series 3, they're terrible lol. You can get an upgrade from any marine (boat) website and it's easy to install.
      Best of luck and your English is great 😃

    • @tonyalways7174
      @tonyalways7174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You series 3 (1974 registered) is still going strong and it doesn’t get wrapped in cotton wool. No luxury at all but that’s half the fun 👍🏻

  • @BratTVN
    @BratTVN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You've got to go back and conquer it in the 90!

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BratTVN I've left the 90 down, don't worry, I'll be back and that hill won't know what hit it 😂

  • @jeremywhitehorn1228
    @jeremywhitehorn1228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Work constantly at the wheel to find traction at the rut margins. If that fails & if the ruts aren't too deep, reduce tyre pressure as low as poss, depending on how far you are from home - & you'll stroll it with probably no wheelspin. Otherwise straddle the ruts & climb up on a fresh surface, which looks possible here, tho' you might go up at an interesting angle. But that's OK. There are lots of options before lockers & super aggressive tyres. I knew a guy who kept a bag of pine needles in his LR, which he'd sprinkle on tracks like this to make them driveable.

  • @michaeldera4298
    @michaeldera4298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Momentum and off road tyres take you to the deeper holes to get stuck in then you buy winches ect.

  • @tacticalrangenz
    @tacticalrangenz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You don't need lockers or any other mods for that type of work.
    Simply let the tires down to 10-15lb.
    Fact.

  • @evolution0016
    @evolution0016 ปีที่แล้ว

    the mud tyres on the series was the difference, also dont be afraid to spin the tyres in mud as its what clears them and stops them being slicks, im not saying go crazy but it looked like you was driving as you would in snow. Snow grips snow hence slow so you keep the snow in youre tyres, mud doesnt work the same, spin and clear the tread. nice looking series btw.

  • @tjrick7745
    @tjrick7745 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful Countryside !

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +T JRick I'm pretty lucky to live here in Wiltshire 🙂

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +T JRick Wiltshire is very pretty, the county is very green, much like my Defender 😂

    • @tjrick7745
      @tjrick7745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I lived in Fareham HANTS for 7 months 20 yrs ago. Loved every minute of it. Mt. Biked/ hiked in the Peak Dist, New Forest, Corfe Castle, Lake Dist, Wickam, Southwick, Portsmouth... so much joy! Went to two Land Rover Off Road events.. incredible... I'm restoring a NADA '73 88 Series III petrol at the moment.

  • @firmansumarwan812
    @firmansumarwan812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont hesitate with the throtle mate, use the momemtum 👍

  • @MrWill127
    @MrWill127 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    easy if you had locking diffs

  • @promenteryrobbins
    @promenteryrobbins 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb comparison

  • @normancallaghan1750
    @normancallaghan1750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tyres clogged with mud, the Series III should have made a new track out of the the pathway already there.

  • @anonomooose3036
    @anonomooose3036 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All about the tyres. Some decent Mud tyres and youd both fly up there :D

  • @jiggermast
    @jiggermast ปีที่แล้ว

    A decent set of tyres would have made all the difference.

  • @NICKFOXTV
    @NICKFOXTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    S3 would have done that no problem. 🤔

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +NFoxtv Now that sounds like a challenge. Bring it on!!!

  • @RUSSIARCCHANNEL
    @RUSSIARCCHANNEL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On d90 tires much smaller

  • @TheRetroSeries2a
    @TheRetroSeries2a 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    your s3 looks lovely!

  • @pauldashwood2897
    @pauldashwood2897 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi boys where is this please..

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate, this was filmed in Devizes at Roundway. There are lots of good trails over there, and you can even link up with Salisbury Plain 👍👌

  • @kwestak
    @kwestak 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    2cv would do it effortlessly :)

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 now that I’d love to see

    • @blackbird8632
      @blackbird8632 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      VinnyVsx u have never seen the dual motor 4x4 2cv have you?

    • @tonyalways7174
      @tonyalways7174 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      kwestak 2cv what a car. Best car I ever owned. Freddy the Flying Frog was a red Dolly with an all red rag top. The minute you got in it a massive smile came on your face. Speed meant nothing just the pure joy of bouncing along with that 650cc engine buzzing away. Would love to own another but cheaper to buy a Ferrari these days............

  • @frankrobertrussevag9291
    @frankrobertrussevag9291 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrong type of tires

  • @tomhart9685
    @tomhart9685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    U not have locked dif

    • @benjymoto3335
      @benjymoto3335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom Hart what makes you think diff lock wasn’t used???

    • @greatbritishroleplay52
      @greatbritishroleplay52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Benjymoto 33 the fact the wheels wasn’t all turning at stages haha

    • @lewisnoisy4224
      @lewisnoisy4224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great British Role Play that’s called a centre diff you goon

    • @greatbritishroleplay52
      @greatbritishroleplay52 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lewis Noyes not sure who your calling s goon my friend but he certainly didn’t have diff locks used. I suppose your one of them people that are a expert in everything and like to pipe up on comments. Well if it makes you sleep well at night god bless ya

  • @silurogt2066
    @silurogt2066 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Land rover series 3 is around 400 Kg lighter

  • @guitarkidification
    @guitarkidification 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sometimes I get sad and think about my old defender 110, but then videos like this make me remember why I bought a Jeep! xD

  • @harryiom9397
    @harryiom9397 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lock the diffs and she'll fly up

  • @uriels4097
    @uriels4097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just get a Land Cruiser bro

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha nah dude, I am a sucker for unreliability

  • @sanatandharma4435
    @sanatandharma4435 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video lads. My series lll SWB 88" petrol was a brilliant climber, had such fun in her. It took my family from Liverpool to Brittany (via the ferry) and we did loads of off roading. I decided to see where a very steep route led to over a bay and it was incredible, we ended up on the far side of a bay, then we had to go down a very steep rocky path into a town! That was hair raising with sheer drops to one side. I can feel the perspiration now. Excellent car.

  • @oldbloke135
    @oldbloke135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So massive fat tyres are not only shit on road, they are shit off road as well?

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the tyres. These were cheap Chinese "off road" tyres. They were somehow amazing on road, but not bad off road. A set of mud BF Goodrich's are superb, I wish I fitted a set before the chassis rotted out ☹️😂

  • @nw8000
    @nw8000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Move steering wheel from side to side so side walls get a grip of summit

  • @joeriolo3962
    @joeriolo3962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    land rovers are the best

  • @mysokubik
    @mysokubik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speed and powaaaaa - my only offroad strategy

  • @terrygribb9185
    @terrygribb9185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It should be called Father vs son.

  • @johncunningham4820
    @johncunningham4820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty well Exactly what I expected really........................

  • @joewood9307
    @joewood9307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    defender is never about speed, put in low diff lock and let her pull you over in her own time, second gear low revs, and just a tickle, let the low rev long stroke tdi work its magic

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree with you more. When I was new to off roading, I would just accelerate hard all the time, but now I know. Slow and steady wins the race 🤠

  • @nigelclatworthy7763
    @nigelclatworthy7763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you keep telling him to ease off,rubbish driver in the 90 with shite tyres

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t agree more. I am truly hopeless 😂

  • @davidw1634
    @davidw1634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:50 engage the diff lock

  • @highdownmartin
    @highdownmartin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks chalky. V slippey

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +highdownmartin It really was. In the dry this hill isn't even a problem, but with even a slight hint of rain you can barely stand up on the track

  • @awegvvm-productions
    @awegvvm-productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice series! What make parabolics do you have and are they soft? I bought some Rocky Mountains years ago for my 88 (two leafs) but they are terrible. Looks like the older they get the harser they get. I already changed the shocks but the springs are just rubbish. I think i'm going back to stock springs. They were softer than the garbage from canada😅

  • @lfcbraga
    @lfcbraga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice series 3

  • @jjkification
    @jjkification 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the series , petrol or diesel, either way, lovely truck! Mine would have been scuppered there by the drop plate, that said.. I have torn it off before now....

  • @temsbab1565
    @temsbab1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deflate the tyres a bit and put a compressor in back

  • @greebo7857
    @greebo7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Series had much better tyres for those conditions.

  • @tonyalways7174
    @tonyalways7174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant motors both of them and I own both models. The only car I ever owned that made me smile more was the Citroen 2 CV. Nothing beats on old belter for some analogue driving and a great laugh. Subbed to see more and support your channel 👍🏻

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Tony. I have a lot more content planned, but Covid has stopped me seeing my other Landy friends.
      Wow you had a 2CV. I love those cars and would really like to own one at some point

  • @wagmiorngmi
    @wagmiorngmi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why don't they just drive round using the nicely tarmac'd road seen at the start? :rolleyes:

  • @coldboltz7390
    @coldboltz7390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @Rob-cz7lg
    @Rob-cz7lg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s all in tyres!

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is. I had cheap Chinese off road tyres here, whereas the Series 3 was running BF Goodrich A/T's. There's no contest on which is a better tyre 😂

    • @tonyalways7174
      @tonyalways7174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Citroen 2CV on its bicycle tyres would have shot up it like a rat up a drainpipe 😄👍🏻

  • @ranter7100
    @ranter7100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    better mud tyres on series 3 prob came down to that

    • @tomohawk5567
      @tomohawk5567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ranter7100 or maybe just better driver

  • @moparmtb360
    @moparmtb360 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont see any articulation

  • @tomhints2904
    @tomhints2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s happened to the 90 now

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Long story short, rust. Lots and lots of rust 😭

    • @tomhints2904
      @tomhints2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vinnyvsx4954 do you know what’s happened to it because I’ve just brought one and it’s got no vin or plate and was just told it was used as an off roader

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It went to some guy in Devon, who wanted it as a pure off roader but he was going to fix it up. But it hasn't had an MOT for a while. Does the one you bought look like my 90 from the videos? If it does, I had a safety switch on the ignition circuit in the dash, it might still be there.

    • @tomhints2904
      @tomhints2904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vinnyvsx4954 was his name Darren?

    • @vinnyvsx4954
      @vinnyvsx4954  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so

  • @loganlatham9028
    @loganlatham9028 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m only 11 but all wheel is better than front and back just a fact

  • @kevintomb
    @kevintomb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Differentials are scraping on mounds in middle. Besides it comes down to mostly luck of what path is chose, tires tread, driver ability and a bit of momentum to overcome scraping diffs.

  • @sotirissotiriou5968
    @sotirissotiriou5968 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    New model does not use 4x4 lock

  • @johnthomasdesign
    @johnthomasdesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why arenʻt they locking the differential?

    • @silurogt2066
      @silurogt2066 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is locked

    • @johnthomasdesign
      @johnthomasdesign 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silurogt2066 if the center diff was locked all wheels spin at the same speed

    • @silurogt2066
      @silurogt2066 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnthomasdesign No. You don't know what is a center diff lock. I'm Italian I have difficult to explain you in this language. Traslate this:
      Quando il differenziale centrale è bloccato l'asse posteriore si comporta in modo separato da quello anteriore. Normalmente il compito di un differenziale è quello di fornire coppia alla ruota che non ha grip, comodo su strada ma non in off road anche con un 4×4 basta avere una sola ruota che slitta per restare fermi. Quando blocchi il differenziale centrale disattivi questo meccanismo tra asse posteriore e anteriore ma non sugli assi, per disattivarlo anche sugli assi servono i blocchi anteriori e posteriori, che il defender non ha mai avuto. Quindi con il centrale bloccato se la ruota anteriore sinistra scivola completamente la destra sta ferma, sta alle ruote posteriori spingerti in avanti, che è quello che fanno fin quando anche una ruota posteriore non scivola totalmente e ferma l'altra. Questo per quanto riguarda il defender perchè il serie 3 non ha nessun blocco non avendo un differenziale centrale, normalmente va in trazione posteriore e poi inserisci il 4x4. Un serie 3 con 4x4 inserito ha le stesse capacità tecniche di un defender con differenziale centrale bloccato.

  • @gabricco
    @gabricco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    with lockers it's all easier