Punjab and rajhastan Sindh i.am from Punjab we are very happy that they were from our land rajhastan Punjab and Sindh 🇮🇳 but also very less people's in India knows about them
Pakistan and Afghanistan as well, my family are all blue eyed blonde and red haired Roma Gipsies, that comes from the mountain/Hindu Kush tribes, we're related to several ethic groups including Kalash, Pamir, Kochi, ect. x
As someone raised in a traditional Gypsy family, I find this video to be a very rare and informative piece. Very well balanced and researched. You've earned a Sub.
Can I ask you something? The gypsies themselves seem to genuinely believe that they are descendants of the Pharaoh. This is seen in many of their culture (especially gypsy flamenco in Spain). What's the deal with that?
@Malik Hj Even their language is called Sindhi. Just like one of the biggest groups of Gypsies in Europe is called Sindhi. People from there even kinda look like European Gypsies.
@Bengal Sultan no they are very pale my girlfriend is from northern india and she is very pale although she is not a gypsie but she is from nagaland....
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I'm a Gypsy, I live in the US. That said, this video is very accurate and I appreciate you covering it with such detail. In the US we're not very well known as we don't make up a significant portion of the population as we do in Europe, so we aren't faced with much persecution here.
i'm technically a Gypsy, though i don't really partake in the culture- but seeing these comments hurt. people labeling us as thieves and stupid and worthless. it's upsetting. especially when the culture is so beautiful-
@@vince2936 99 percent of us are crooks and theives, i gave up that life... kudav tu muy te kudel o beng.. if your "technically gypsy "what did i just say..
nicko konovalov i said i don't partake in the culture. the last person in my family who knew the language that my Roma family spoke in hungary is dead.
@@prateekreddy8442 to be honest they can be from pakistan and india both. becoz pakistan was the part of nothwest india. so their from both pakistan and india
@Zdravljica some of them can be from pakistan its comman sense becoz india and pakisran were same once and rajasthan is right next to pakistan so some of their ancestors can be a few mile from rajasthan right after all ancient rajasthan had more similarities to ancient pakistan than ancien south and east india
I am a gypsy and I own my own home, been to college, pay my bills and so on. My Daughter has been to university and is a school teacher. I have two sons, the eldest has bought his own home and the youngest lives in a property that belongs to my husband & I . They both have jobs. I must add that my family and my self have never stolen anything in our lives .
You, huns, are not wihte either. The lady is not hungraian gypsi, not mixed with not white huns but wihte indoeuropeans. You came form the mongolian steppes and your culture is not compatible with european culture. Let's add that in Hugary the mayority do everything to make obstacles for gipsies, discritminate us in education and labourmarket. Now the story is full. Yours is just the half of it. Yes, most us "your" people is racist, and it is the case. Tisztelet a kivételnek.
Sure you are, and the Europeans in Israel are Jews, the Europeans in Australia are aboriginals and the Europeans in the Americas are indigenous. Good one.
"YoU donT loOk liKe a romAnI" these comments are so dumb. Romani are very diverse, they've been in Europe for hundreds of years, they're obviously gonna look mixed. Some Romani are very white looking and some look full indian. Yall are uneducated and it shows
This is awesome. My great great grandfather was Henry Taylor, a Romani Gypsy who is documented as being involved with some Birmingham gangs back in the early 1900s. My grandfather never knew his family, his dad left when my grandfather was born. My grandfathers mother passed away giving birth so he was eventually adopted and moved to America under a different name. He did a ton of genealogy and family tree digging to find out who his family was over the years. Tons of really cool stuff. My great great great grandfather (Henry's father) was a full blown Romani. Hung around Black Patch Park in Birmingham with other families such as the Boswell's, Hearn's, Lee's and Gray's. My grandfather has pages of documented stuff that he's found over the years.
Gypsies frequent my village, alot of the time they are no problem and pass through, without issue, but there are way too many instances where groups have left their sites like a local tip and forced my community to clean up after themselves. I mean i don't care if they come, my town needs the business, but for crying out loud just respect where we live and we will respect you. Same to fly tippers.
Orca Whale They told me the similar stuff to me as a child. We used to hide and lock ourselves for hours from them whenever we heard that they were coming to town.
I can personally confirm this. I was born in Bulgaria in 2000 and was adopted to Denmark as a kid. I took a DNA test a few months back and my results were quite typical for a roma/gypsie. 50% Indian, about 30% Greek and approximately 15% Balkan as well as a few small chunks divided into Italy, Spain, Ashkenazi Jewish etc. - This march I travelled to Bulgaria to find my biological family and after only a few hours of searching in the town that was described in my adoption papers, we found a very friendly couple that helped us search for our biological parents (later it would be revealed that the guy was my cousin). Later when we found my mother, father and 11 siblings I talked to them about their origin since there aren't many good sources for information regarding their origin. My biological mother told me that there is a story that one mothers tells to her daughter and carries from generation to generation. It is about their ancestors and how they were the low social class in India about 10.000 years ago. Many lived from farming but at some point they ran out of 'ressources'. (I don't know what she meant and I thought it was best not to ask more about it). Therefore some decided to travel. Some split on their way and therefore some went to the eastern side of Africa. In many countries they were welcomed and some were later 'expelled' - she couldn't quite tell me why but I believe there had been some kind of conflict. Appearently this made them very introverted.. They are very proud and are absolutely loving, talented musically and will do everything for their families - even if it means stealing from others (though it should be noted that some don't - especially if they have work). For some they can appear cold and ungrateful but she thought that it maybe was because some had felt decieved or/and betrayed many years ago *another note: They were treated the same ways as jews, but by some reason they are rarely mentioned in history contexts*. I didn't quite get it all since I had a translator with me and he couldn't understand everything that they were saying because bulgarian is their 2nd language and they had another accent. She also said that, that for them it is considered a myth and simply a good story to tell their children, so she couldn't comfirm anything since no one has written it down. She said that it is because their language is only a spoken language. They don't use letters or writing in general.. Therefore it is also quite typical for them to be dyslexic even though they are very smart. Personally, I've never had any trouble reading or anything, but many of my siblings in Bulgaria were dyslexic. I told her about my DNA test and I guess it confirms her story. If anyone is adopted and believe they come from a roma family or have any questions, you are more than welcome to contact me on my E-mail address: michaelfrsig@gmail.com
It is kind of sad. They were low castes in India and migrated to Europe with the hopes of better lives and ended up becoming low castes in Europe as well. Particularly everyone forgets Nazi's genocide of Romani but remembers Jewish holocaust.
I don't think that low social status was the main factor for their immigration to Europe. Their earliest record of arrival dates back to around the 13th century. Which is around when islamic invader were attacking India .
@@sriharshacv7760they were not from the lower caste. After the Mahmud gajanavi s brutal attack on India gajanavi took them as slaves. So the reason for their exit from India was muslim invasions
It's important to note that the minority of them who actually chose to assimilate did so successfully. The EU has strict laws against discrimination at the workplace so as long as they are willing to prove themselves they will have jobs. Also, they most definitely can move across borders. I recommend googling what happened when they got into London in 2015.
@@Missyprincess719 The ones who do work don't call themselves Gypsy because they fear discrimination so you rarely hear/see a normal hard working Gypsy.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin exactly, my private teacher who knew i was gypsy told the other student, first thing she said was ''my mom said they are all thieves'' and people wonder why i hide it. in fact my family tree are all so cool and hardworking.
@@Missyprincess719 well if for hundreds of year people been saying to you that you are lazy and a thief i guess why not just embrace that lol. European called them lazy not because they are realy lazy but because they don't fit with the same mentality and culture of settled European. So to European their lifestyle seems like lazy, but for them taking a permanent jobs means you have to settle and buy home and that is against their culture. So they will only take a job that enable them to move around whenever they want.
I was born in Hungary, but grew up in the United States. On a trip to my country of birth to visit family I was honestly shocked at how blatantly racist some ethnic Hungarians were towards the gypsies. I do have several Roma gypsies in my family through marriage, including several of my dad‘s cousins.
The thing about Peaky Blinders is that in many ways it was implied that the Shelbies were actually Irish travellers (which means they are not Roma people). Yet they call themselves Roma too. So it's like, they never actually clarify if they are Irish travellers or Roma. And I think it's because the producers don't even know the difference
@@javierperalta7648 The Shelbys are mixed race. Their father is Irish or a Tinker and a Roma. Their mother is full Roma that is why they are white complexion
Here in the Netherlands nobody gives a shit unless it's on formal television, like the news. But I guess, even though the word 'zigeuner' is the same here, it doesn't have the load of WWII to it.
Two years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Bucharest to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who ,as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge mustache. You can see them on google by clicking "Lambada in south India". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province,now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan , Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova , both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for "Panna Cinka ". If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani ( or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair)angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day) sassu sussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saalo Sali (brother and sister in law from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upral purano ( old ), dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept. Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu" used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv(him in Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in TH-cam to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language”(th-cam.com/video/UJvn7nLeZaI/w-d-xo.html) by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India.....”(th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html)
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is "If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight."
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word"trishul" from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is " Har har Mahadev".
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference, UC Berkeley" (th-cam.com/video/NTsqiP196Uw/w-d-xo.html). Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India.However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and directly from Sanskrit. There are many many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot . He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots. Also, one may see on TH-cam " Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia " (th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html) of Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or "Gotras" and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan.
Khamma Ghani loya Shab, I'am a Marwari from Jodhpur and it's surprising for me to see some similarities between Roma language and Marwari but few things we need to keep in mind is that Marwari language was a very institutionalised and Organised before independence it was even used on official documents here in Jodhpur state(Marwar) but I think origin of Roma language and Marwari can be same which is a combination of Sanskrit originated words with Gujarati, little Sindhi. I don't think Roma language originated from Rajasthani/Marwari but our origin can be same. Iam not very well with history but i don't think we can surely say that Romas were Rajputs from Rajasthan. But still iam very fascinated by your research. Thanks alot 🙏
Im sinto from slovenia ,i can say only that - we are all made of stars from dust to dust and ashes to ashes ,we all have one of the dna from eva in africa .got have mercy on aur souls.mei hum sinto ,mai mei drosi glaiza dav na vek.hum ti cao ha ani hofunga ,u hailigepas del man ruva ,ti fraida anu zii.deva lei men nah men ham doh tire tchave.
Thank you so much for this video. Basically EVERYONE does not know the story of "gypsies" and what a unique people that they are. It's a truly amazing journey.
My great grandparents were Gypsy, and I take after my grandmother and her parents by far the most from my heritage. But I can get near zero information from my family, they go out of their way to hide and erase that section of our family tree. I feel such an outsider in my own family now. My grandmother told me many stories when I was very little, most I can only remember tiny bits from, and no one else will even discuss it. I wish I could connect with my heritage, but since that is not possible as I have zero ways to prove any of it with my family stonewalling me. I guess maybe I should be happy I look passingly European, no one can hate me if I look white, living in rural USA.
Pretty sad that your family have had to hide who they are just to pretty much fit into general society. My grandfather generation tried to do the same but it didn't work.
So sorry that your family are reluctant to get into a dialogue with you. My half Romany grandmother and full Romany great grandmother both died in the mid1940s in the UK*, so I had no chance - until researching my family tree in later life - to even meet anyone with a strong link to my Romany family tree. *Both married non-Roms, as did my quarter Rom mother, so I am only one eighth Romany. The scary fact is, that if I'd been born a few decades earlier in Germany and had had children with a non-Rom during the Nazi regime, those children would have been caught up in the 'Porajmos' (Romany genocide), because having just ONE SIXTEENTH 'gypsy' blood was enough for consignment to the gas chambers. Don't give up! Perhaps if you research your family tree and find links outside of your immediate family, you will strike gold? I did! When I was around 50 years of age, through a chance contact I made online of her great-niece, I met up with the very elderly daughter of my great grandmother's sister. She was amazing - such a lovely, welcoming lady. I was able to ask her questions which became several pages of fascinating memoirs. Although she only vaguely remembered her Aunt Susan (my great grandma), and only knew of my grandma (her cousin) by family rumours (tip: never dismiss family rumours!), she had two photos which had been passed down by her by her mother of my great grandma, who I'd never seen an image of before, and four photos of my grandma ... where I'd only had one, previously. Oh, and those family rumours? One that my mum (despite losing her mum AND maternal grandma before when she was 5) knew about was that we were somehow related to the world-famous Romany evangelist, Gipsy Rodney Smith (a precursor in evangelical fame and influence to Billy Graham). After a lot of research (not helped by a key ancestor having used her mother's maiden name as her surname when she got married ... a not uncommon Romany peccadillo!) I was able to confirm he was the first cousin of the aforementioned Susan's mother, Naomi. Imagine my amazement to discover that Gipsy Smith wrote his (best-selling) memoirs in 1901, and in them recounted several stories of Naomi's father - his beloved Uncle Bartholomew, and my 3 x great grandfather - including the circumstances of his death and his last words. There was even a photograph of Bartholomew in the autobiography. Mind-blowing. I've also met the descendant of a brother of Naomi's - who emigrated from England to Canada in the early years of the 1900s and also became a well-known evangelist. She was also able to provide both photos and the memoirs of her ancestor and we've kept in touch and become good friends over the years. So ... the moral of this story is ... get digging! It might take years, but if you persevere you never know what you will turn up. Good luck / kushti bok!
All I was told when mum had to admit gift I had…one other sister has….never told anything….dad I can take back to 1066…but only told you come from gypsies not tinkers…she was Irish background…..
The French word 'gitan/gitane' is said with a soft 'g' at the beginning, pronounced like in the name Django Reinhardt (a famous 'gitan' jazz musician, who grew up in a community outside Paris). Gitanes are also a brand of cigarette in France. The preferred word is 'Rom', though.
Thanks sir for discussing gypsy.i am from india i care for their wellbeings as they are our old family.please give them job and treat equal as a minority.and give nomadic id to travel in europe .because they are nomadic people respect their culture and prserve them and take care of them.joshi from india
When I was growing up, a Gypsy carnival passed through our old neighborhood every summer. Over the years, I became friends with them and and they showed me how their prize games worked, and which prizes were impossible to win. I miss their passing through to this day.
contrary to popular belief, but gipsies don't do carnivals for a living. the carnival that passed through your old neighbourhood was your own sort of people. ie none gypsys who chose a nomadic lifestyle. and if you were swindled by them in any way, then your own sort did it to you. which is nothing new, your governments have been doing it for a very, very, long time.
THere are 2 types of comments below this video. Those who faced this culture in their lives and those who didn't but tries to act modern equility performace.
Tomas Puodziukynas You can't change a culture in one day. You can try to attrack them to your way of life, to your culture. But if they don't find it appealing at all, there's nothing else to do. I am speaking from my own experience, as a teacher of adult people. Luckily I have had the opportunity to teach several Gypsy people and I have seen they keep some values we have lost in this individualistic modern world. I have also seen how much they are in need but still they respect who respects them. Sometimes I feel we, as people, fail to understand other people who have decided to walk a different path.
Tomas Puodziukynas What do you mean with "your home"? Can it be "your country"? If you mean a literal home then, I agree with you. If you mean a country then I disagree because the rules that apply to us today change along history and, let's be honest, there are some rules that are unfair but I accept because otherwise I could end up in jail. Think of those rules that protect and give priviledges to the powerful and leave defenseless the most vulnerable. Countries and societies are alive when they constantly update and renew themselves.
The Irish gypsy's were descendants of the cottiers who were evicted by the landlords in the famine of 1845-1850 they lost their land in the famine and they never got it back.
I'm Spanish and grew up in a gypsy estate, I now live in England and I'm married to an English gypsy, Spanish and English gypsies are VERY different in tradition, culture and lifestyle It is unthinkable in Spain for a non gypsy man to marry a gypsy woman where here it seems a lot more common, if this happened in Spain we would have had to flee to stop her family from killing us both, here her family have been amazing with me, they see me as one of them
I am an American who lives in Latvia and come from a Hispanic back ground. Because of my skin color I get mistaken for a gypsy and have had to deal with being stero typed. That is until I pull oit my USA passport and then how quickly they become nice to me. I have adopted 2 Latvians and 1 Romi. The looks I get in Europe when my white Latvian kids call me daddy in front of others. As for my Romi son, because we are both brown skin, I tell him to walk tall and let the people think what they want. Our actions will speak for them self that we are not thieves. It is funny when we go into town and get these stares from people. I tell my Romi son people are not used to seeing two well dressed and educated gypsy before. We don't fit their box of racist thinking.
I had 2 teenage gypsies approach me while I was in Germany holding signs that said they were deaf. They held their hands out for money but I said no. After I said no they scoffed at me and walked away. 5 minutes later I turned around a corner and saw them talking on their cellphones.
Well i must say we are not the only ones that steel do bad things when we go to jail we are not the only race in the jail everyone in the jail are mostly your own Pepole and no one talking shit about yohr nabors and family in there every race and famliy has a bad appel in it so the ones saying your not being racist piss off
We have hearing non-gypsy/Romani people do that here in the USA, too. White, black, Latino, etc. They even have cards made up to hand to people. This isn't a gypsy/romani issue.
I am A Roma gypsy myself and have had deaf gypsy's trying to sell paintings at my door haha. Once I told him that I was gypsy he soon shot off. Still for the life of me can't figure out how he understood what I said.
@@CaptainAngelo okay I have Romani blood..why do you have to be a stickler or should I say stick in the mud. Take the log out of your eye before you try to remove the speck out of mine...
I know a family of gypsies who are very sweet and generous people. I remember one time many years ago I had accidentally locked myself out of my house and had to wait for my boyfriend to get off work to come let me in well one of the ladies and her husband let me hang out at their house until I could get in my home. I have known them for years off and on through various places I worked and I am very disappointed and the people on here who judge someone based on stereotype of a race. How would you like it if you were called names or people wish you harm or death. Don't judge a person unless you get to know them or you will be judged by others. Oh and I almost forgot about the time I was short of money and could not by myself lunch for work they helped me out
Dude, get a life. Calling every single comment that points out the problems with this group of people racist is not going to change the fact that they are right.
a lot of the picketpocket kids are bribed out of tribes with a job offer for a better job, then forced to work as a pickpocket, as they don't speak the language, have no money of their own, etc.
I’m 25% gypsy due to my biological father and my entire life growing up, my mom used to tell me she was ashamed of having me because I was part gypsy and I wasn’t allowed to let anyone know.
Oh, honey - that's awful. In my family tree research I have heard similar accounts, especially from the older generations. I'm also 25%, though, and was never made to feel ashamed ... on the contrary, amongst all the 'boring' people in my family tree, the Romany branch is a rare breath of fresh air! I think people were so much more judgmental back then .... it was part of the culture. Gradually things are getting better .... the 'stigma' of being born out of wedlock, for example, is way less, now.
Apologies if this is an insensitive question, but, if she's bigoted against Gypsies, why did she sleep with one? Did she only learn his heritage after the fact? Or did something worse happen?
isnt it disgusting how the Roma people have been treated over the years and by everyone in all different countries!?...they are just human beings like everyone else, living their lives with whatever means they have. i don't which year these people from india left, but i do know the portuguese inquisition in goa in 1560 left a lot of indians leaving for their lives, although it is thought these were people with land ownership and of hindu, jewish or muslim origins, i am one of those. lot's of wars displace people but also slavery has moved people across continents on those times and people moved for work too.
Or about ten minutes, but yeah, he routinely murders foreign languages in those videos. A shame because, for the most part, they're entertaining and he has an excellent diction.
And it would be nice if my actual last name wasn't butchered into approximately "grow-what the fuck ever dude..." BUT you just can't get expectations too high... so just laugh, it's easier..:o)
yes, well done, you would use a sound like in "groin" to pronounce "geuner", so writing it like this "Ziegoiner", is pretty close to the actual pronunciation :)
I had a teacher last year who told us of his trip to Romania. During his trip, a restaurant owner picked up and threw a boy several feet away from my teacher's tourist group, because he believed that he was going to pickpocket them.
i am 50% roma Gypsy and i live in america. even though i live in america i can tell you there is some racism towards gypsies in europe. i was on a app called whisper and i made a post that said i don't know much about roma gypsies even though i am one and there was so much hate towards me flooding in from europe, i acted civilized and nice (kinda sarcastic at times yes) but people didn't care they were rude and told me to get a job, said i probably stole my phone and when i said i worked in a cabinet factory they said stop lying and to go back to running my fair grounds in which i said if i did run a fair you would be my clown. i don't get that hate in america although most americans don't even know gypsy aren't really mystical or just culture let alone a race. even though i can claim the title i guess i cant speak for them in europe but here in america we have native americans. most native americans wouldn't want to assimilate because it would hurt their culture which in the gypsies case might be the same.
I'm honored to see this video I'm a gipsy even called tigan,I learned to accept myself that people is racist to me,and there is good people who will stand by my side forever,love yall❤️
thats straight up dumb, i am a good person who betters the lives of those around him and it would be anyone's privilege to meet me, and there are more important things to worry about than your possessions, that is such a harmful mindset
yeah dude you are a good guy , who literally replied on someone else's comment saying you would fight anyone who didn't call you romani instead of a gypsy , you're such a good guy man , confucking gratz who the fuck are you kidding , you and many more like you are the reason why people look down on you, because there are more people that do wrong shit than people that are actually decent, just like you
What does the title have to do with the video contents? Actually, I heard somewhere that gypsies were from India, descendants of a warrior group that had lost their territories and were forced into exile.
Millions of them were killed in the afghan region. The place was renamed after the massacre as Hindukusch. The grave of the Hindus. Some fled to the west. But were again persecuted by the Christians. Then it’s been a fight for them to survive and keep their link to motherland. They haven’t assimilated to Europe cause assimilation was very different just less than a century back in Europe.
Iam gypsi woman...42.y old.Iam not travelling, not stollen anything, working,study...clean and living normal life like u..I tok DNA and results:42%india, and left is...IRAQ,SYRIA,EGYPT,GREEK...IAM HAPPY IAM GYPSI..
Bonus fact: As far as I know, the German word "Zigeuner" (/tsigoyner/) actually means "Zieh-Gauner" which is composed of a word meaning to wander / travel around and a word meaning "criminal".
Here is some fact about the Romas or Romanis. Here in Hungary the government often gave them brand new houses with wooden floors, hand carved wooden doors, nice gardens and such for a minimal fee. Couple years go by in the winters they have burned all the wooden flooring and doors in the fireplace, and replace them with either some tarp or some missfitting stuff found in the junkyard. I own several properties, i rented some out to some Romas, and in 6 months time i had to spend about 1.4 million HUF on repairs due to their neglegant behaviour in and around the house. Their rent was only 20 thousand HUF a month so it nowhere nearly covered a fraction of the damages. I'm not racist. I have many Roma friends and i do like their culture (what remains of their culture). But i will never rent out any of my properties to them ever again. Since then i have been renting out my properties to "Magyar"-s and every 6-8 months I have to forego some rent in favor of repairs and improvements the tenants done on their own accord to my properties.
And most are either from India, Romania, rarely france, learn with it brain, I didn't used to like them before , but once someone attacked me, and the gypsy/travellers actually saved me, And none have ever stole from me.. And they work trust me they all work all Roma Irish English gypsies work! And never mess with them, trust me, there worse than gangs.
Irish travellers are not Romany they speak different languages and the phrase Roma or Romany gypsies has nothing to do with Romania the country, Romany is its own language and culture
So. You are using the the word gypsy instead of Romani. I'm always confused if it appropriate to use that word (isn't it a pejorative?), but here it is your preferred reference term.
I am a Bulgarian and I have never been robbed by gypsies despite visiting my cousin's place (he lives next to gypsy neighborhood) on a regular basis or often being surrounded by members of that ethnicity while commuting by train when I was a uni student. I have witnessed a peaceful gypsy man being verbally abused during one of those trips though. I have also witnessed employment discrimination while working in a fast food chain - while viewing the job applications the restaurant manager admitted he won't be calling those who seem to be from the "mahala" (based on their photos or names) for an interview - and I tend to think this happens quite often. But those claiming that none of the gypsies have a job must have never gone past a construction site or seen the women brushing streets and sidewalks. Crime is surely a serious among gypsy communities but I wonder how many of the commentators have been victims of gypsy crime themselves rather than hearing about it from the media. (Gypsies begging OTOH is something I have witnessed quite often but that is not as serious an offence IMO) And while living off welfare is common among people of that ethnicity I believe the idea most people have about the extent of it is exaggerated. (I read quite an eye-opening study by the Solidarity of Bulgaria NGO touching that topic). Claiming the "majority" bears zero responsibility for the issues of the gypsy communities is ridiculous.
I worked for a Gypsy gentleman when I was 16 yrs old , my brother and I would go to backyard cook-outs at his house What a Party ! there was a girl named Rose she was my age Oh man she was Gorgeous made me weak in the knees if I looked in her eyes I'd get dizzy ! I was told by her Aunt if I valued my Family Jewels I'd better keep my hands and my Jewels to myself , I ignored the aunts advice but all I got was a set lovers nuts 3 sets actually . ...Haven't thought of her in years wonder how she is getting along . . .Oh and Great guy to work for I was paid very well treated my brother and I better than he treated his own sons . ..
King Kong Z nope I was born and raised in Chicago Illinois in a big beautiful home. Funny how people talk shit on internet but in person their scared little kittens 🐱! Lol
Thanks for the video, I found it to be very informative. I found the comments section to be very informative as well... Just in a more disgusting way. So many people pretending they are better while they spout such vitriol and hate, demonstrating their hypocrisy. How completely disgraceful.
I'm English, and growing up, gypsy travellers were always feared and loathed as dirty criminals. I could never understand why people fear them so much. They never did me any harm.
In India western part of our country, a community of people we call them in my language 'Zazabor' who travel all over India, they don't say at one place. They usually earn money by selling some stuffs. There's very similarities between these community. So they might be from India cause I saw a pic of Gypsy woman who dress like Zazabor. But time has changed.
@@josephjones5099 how do my name is David Jones just wondering how did you end up with the name in a travelling community no offence on my mother's side we're all Martins all of my best nights out in memory is in asite in dunshaughlin drinking for 3 days singing eating slagging arguing with each other all in good fun just and do you think there is a difference between Roma gypsy community and the Irish and English travelling community just wondering as a Jones never seen the name in that community?🖒
@@alwaysgood6200 Romania gypsies tend to take names on that are used in the countries they reside in. My family have been in he UK for many many many years and having taken on names such as Worrell, Smith, Jones, price etc. It is just a way of making society accept them a little more
@@Biggzy85, I look at your comments that most of the shit and you talk wanted and unfriendly without knowing anything about us Roma! I am ethnically Romanian born in Romania! Most Romanians in Romania and many other history lovers should do well to learn history! The majority Romanians in Romania officially denominated themselves until 1862 "valahi". I know very well the history of the Romanian country and of the Romanians and I will honestly tell you that these people who call their country "Romania" and they call themselves Romanians that until 1862 this little country was a kingdom officially called "Wallachia". Authentic Romanians are not even the citizens of Rome, because that is how the Latin Romanians migrated from Troy (Asia Minor, Anatolia), to the Italian peninsula in the eighth century BC. . The Etruscans, are of Semitic (Iranian) descent. This is how the so-called Latin Romanians called their empire after the Etruscan "ruma". From where Romanians, like Trajan, the Roman was Iberian (Lusitanian). The origin of the pre-Romanic languages originated in Iberia. As for Roma, even if you don't believe it, Roma are the first Indo-Europeans. The Roma descend from the Dravidian Indians, which in turn, the Indians descend from the Dravidian African tribes. The Roma descend from an old and great people, who faxed the first 3 major civilizations of the world: the Egyptian, the Mesopotamian and the Indus Valley, called "mohenjo daro and harrapa. Civilization built in 3500 BC.
It has recently been officially recognised that Travelers (Irish Gypsies) have there own culture. I went to primary school with a lot of them and I got on well with them. I've always wondered what happens to Travelers who try to leave Traveler culture, or diverge from the norms and expectations. They traditionally don't go for further education. They marry cousins when they're young. What happens when they don't follow this?
They settle down and get a job like everyone else. My husband grew up in a trailer, went to school!! in 7 different countries until his parents felt too old travel and settled down in Germany (they originated from Hungary). He has a good job and we live our lives like all others do :)
They are a really interesting bunch I’ve seen loads of videos of American gypsies, those who live in the Uk, Bulgaria and Romania. I must say from an outsider’s perspective, they seem like a culture so engrossed in their traditions that they’ve basically ignored current norms of society. For example in most societies education is vital but they live in first world countries with little to no education and while most cultures marry over 21 that’s like spinster age for them. I can see how some people might be annoyed by them as they have been linked to high crime rates and seem to ignore government help but I feel they are slowly changing with time and having clear communication with them is vital as they seem very welcoming to people who have documented them from what I’ve seen.
Living in a society usually means that you have rights, but also duties. In my opinion they demand (and are given) all the rights, but fulfill none of the duties. Like sending their kids to school, paying taxes, comply with laws and norms, etc. Its a very complicated issue to deal with, as most are uneducated, violent and have no wish to integrate in our society.
I have a fascination for the Roma. Their music cuts so deep; such feeling. I am a musician so I follow their music. In their culture, the highest a Roma can go in life is to make a living as a musician. In the old days for royalty and today, perhaps the masses. My favorite is Spanish but I like all of it. They must have American Roma music. For a group without a nation, they seem to have a very strong culture. I heard that Romania is like 90 something % Roma and they are the minority there.
They are from India. Go through Rajasthani folk music and Indian classical music. There is Kashmiri music. And Afghani music there. All of this will be in Romani music.
They were most likely slaves traded by Turkish invaders. Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan are called so because Indians (Hindus) were traded there as slaves, just like black people were taken to Americas and Indians to Caribbean.
The linguistic study of Roma/Gypsy language pointed out there is a large occurrence of military words. "You fat doser" dosser for example, it's root is a north indian word for prisoner of war. There is also lots of words for weapons. I reckon the Gypsies left India as part of an Islamic army and then followed the Islamic/Ottoman expansion into Europe.
@x y "Romani does have a set of words having to do with warfare, and those are of Indian origin. The words for ‘fight’, and ‘soldier’, and ‘sword’, and ‘spear’, and ‘plunder’ and ‘battle-cry’ as well as several others have been a part of the language from the very beginning.” -- (Author and academic Ian Hancock 2002:10). romani.humanities.manchester.ac.uk/virtuallibrary/librarydb/web/files/pdfs/379/Paper24.pdf
@x y Next time you write your comment do it on the video page! If you start typing a comment in the popout you are more likely to lose the comment before you posted! I did not remove any comment f*cking fool!
So many people in the comments complaining about "racism," but let me just tell you why you're wrong. I am not a racist person, I believe that everyone should be treated equally, regardless of ethnicity or culture. However, having grown up in a country where I have to face gypsies every single time I leave the house, always begging me for money, it becomes tiring and I've developed a hatred for most of them. I appreciate the gypsies who actually work and try to make a living for themselves, but they're a minority within a minority. Most gypsies just beg at the age of 25 so they can feed their 10 children. And it's not like the government hasn't tried to integrate them; they've built apartment buildings for them and tried to get them to work, but those buildings are now in an even worse state than older buildings in Romania, because that's just how they are. There are some rather extreme comments promoting genocide, but, honestly, there is no possible way to integrate them. And that is why I and many other people have come to hate gypsies. Also the fact that they're now calling themselves "romani" because "gypsy" became a "racial slur". You did that yourself, gypsy wouldn't be a racial slur if you hadn't made a name for yourselves as thieves, liars and criminals. I do not wish to hate gypsies, but that's currently the case for me.
Yeah you are racist... You are seeing problems (don't get me wrong, i'm not denying the existence of the problems) and focus to find the cause of these problems within their "race". So to say that you are not a racist is being a freaking hypocrite. That's basic racism 101. Why is there so much racism against black people in the us? Because there are problems, but they exist because of poverty and social discrimination. Their "race" is just the reason how they got to be in that situation.
Robb Reyne Racism would be discriminating against them purely based on their race, which I don't do. I know that there are gypsies who work hard and stuff, what I was stating was simply an observation I have made over the past years I've lived here. I never said all of them are this way.
Robb Reyne Also, don't compare that to the situation of black people.You can see it in this video that their situation is completely different and black people actually try to integrate themselves, unlike gypsies.
yeah because their cultural differences are bigger and the history of discrimination is far longer than that of the afro-americans, which of course makes it harder to tackle these problems, but still doesn't make the reasons for it any less true. "but they don't want to integrate themselves, but are still living in their own communities" (not quoting) still could be said about afro-americans "they live in their hoods inside their black communities" . just read all the comments here and imagine that you are a gypsy, would you really want to interact with them? discrimination isn't always based on one reason, and if the race is "only" one part of it, it is still racism.
I'm not very well informed on the history of afro-americans, so I can't say how similar their situations are, but I've never known of any marches or protests of the gypsies for their freedom, the only one I remember is them protesting that their name is changed from "gypsies" to "rroma". And the government has tried to integrate them, at least in my country, and it was definitely them who didn't accept the integration. For afro-americans, wasn't it that the government was refusing to integrate them? As for the racist comments, yes, some of them are blatantly racist without giving any reasons, but I have given my reasons for not particularly admiring most gypsies, and I think they are well-justified. I've met gypsies in my life who also disagree with their fellows and have the same opinion as I do on this topic, more or less. Also, a gypsy probably wouldn't speak English well enough to read most of these comments and a lot of them don't even have a place to live, so the ones I am talking about can't be offended by these comments. I know that there are civilized gypsies, and I very much admire them for standing up to their peers, but unfortunately, there are not enough of them for me and most of the people I know to actually admire and respect gypsies as a whole.
In Spain in 1990, a Gypsy woman walked up to my husband and me, asking for money. When we refused her, she protested, and said, (in Spanish) "Well your wallet is right here, can't you just give me a little money?", as she started putting her hands on my husband's belt, and then started putting her hand into his front pocket to get his wallet, in broad brazen daylight. I formed my opinion of them that day.
Lol so if a person of another race will say something stupid to you ,you are going to use one person behaviour to represent the whole community ?are u seriously that dumb?there are countless of people that are acting the same way that are white ,black ,Asian and any other race .Stop being blind no need to have that much hate in your heart ,they are People as well ,just look how they European where treating them through the all freaking millennial ,they were extremely discriminated even now ,they were slaves ,they were killed on sight by nazi ,it makes sense why they keep their community by themselves when they are being treating like this ,in their same country .
@@Omar-kl3xp i say this from experience, i live in a place where gypsies arent exactly uncommon. yes you cant judge an entire group of what "SOME" people from that group do. but when you experience negative behaviour from a specific group once, twice, three times, four times... 15 times, so on, every time you meet them, and prehaps once or twice you experience a positive side. then you know the difference between "SOME" and "MOST". obviously that doesnt mean that you have to be prejudical every time you see a gypsy. but that still doesnt mean you cant point out a common problem among their group if its quite obvious just so you dont offend someone.
@@Omar-kl3xp im not racist, i dont believe gypsies in general do have such bad behaviour because of their race or ethnicity, if i would believe so i would be racist. but i'd say at least half of gypsy population if not more do have such negative behaviour, i dont believe thats because of their race, i believe thats because of their refusal to integrate and they have sort of a tribalistic view, as if because they are gypsies and not tied with the rest of the world they are allowed to do anything they want. all i say is that countries like poland, hungary, czechia, germany, and france have tried to integrate them for more than 400 years now and they still couldnt.
I'm thinking my dad's side of the family has some Romani ties. I don't know why but my genetics come from Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Armenia, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Russia, France, Germany, Norway/Scandinavia and Ashkenazic influence. I feel a natural understanding with the Romani.
no British gypsys/Romany, are of Indian descent, Irish travellers are of Irish native decent. you don't seem to have understood what the man says in this video, or if what your saying is true? then tests must have been done on Irish travellers claiming to be Romany. Romany gypsys are of Asian descent. that's why people used to mistake them for Egyptians, hence the name gypsy.
@Alex C i know the Romanian people are not gypsys. but the gypsys who are from Romania, are called Romany. you clearly didn't understand the comments i have previously written, so it's you who is the stupid one. i am a gypsy yes. but I can assure you I'm far from being stupid. hate to break this to you already, buts it's you who is the stupid one. and everyone in the comment section knows it, except you.
@@fighting3209 The word romany doesn't stem from Romania my friend,all gypsies in europe are known as rom or romany wherever they live.The two similar names are result of a coincidence according to the western europeans that insisted they should be called that way.
@@flo2k932 i very much disagree,. but if you can produce any evidence to the contrary? I'm more than sure that i and every gypsy historian reading these comments would be very interested in looking at it. i think you have Romay and gypsy mixed up, the Europeans preferred to call them gypsy because they looked Egyptian.
I'm Gypsy, however I live in Canada. I knew racism existed towards Gypsy's across the pond but reading these comments makes me disheartened and NOT EVER want to travel to Europe like I previously did prior to reading these comments. Giving gypsies opportunities instead of persecution will solve a lot of the issues. And no. It's not going to happen right away. Probably not even in one generation. It takes time and compassion to solve something that's existed for possibly 1 thousand years.
Why not in one generation? WHY? It has to be instant change, not slow and gradual! Taking time takes too long. It took less "time" for America to go from having no space program at all to putting Neil Armstrong on the fucking moon!
AirCooledMan2006. You are simply comparing two totally different things. Putting someone on the moon was a matter of science, not culture. Even though we pretty much have the "tools" to change a culture, it takes time. You can't change ideologies or culture in a matter of days. This is simply impossible due to our own psychology. Culture, tradition, ideology are the three things that are extremely well rooted in us. My opinion, in order to change one of those you have to take time or cut the roots while the individual is young.
Those who moved to North America typically settled down and integrated into society. It would be difficult for them to do anything illegal without having to contend with both the legal system and various already established criminal gangs.
Europe is too racist, especially the idiots from West. They don't spend enough money with the gypsies, especially in East where they are less civilised.
Haven't watched it yet but I want to express my appreciation for your channel making videos available with 720p60, not many channels do so and I find it to be quite enjoyable, so thank you from a loyal viewer 💋
@Farla Bau Wow this was from 4 years ago. Anyway, I said they share some things in common. Do your research both groups do. Romani and Mincéirí are generally different ethnic groups. Having similarities between two different groups is nothing new. Tons of ethnic groups have things in common. Gypsy is not their term for themselves. Rather like Romani it was an ethnic slur used by outsiders for them. Mincéirí is a better choice or at least Travelers. They are just another marginalized group in Europe and elsewhere. They didn't steal Romani cultural identity. They have their own.
@Farla Bau Ok this is going to be long. No I am not saying that they are the same ethnic groups. I am saying both are marginalized groups that have some things in common. As to the term Gypsy do your research. It is a racial slur that has been applied to more people that just the Romani. It's like many slurs. They get applied all over the place. There many many cultures in Africa but a single racial slur is often used for them. Whether you like it or not, it has been applied to both groups over the years. It's a fact. The important point is that it was applied and it's a slur. Both Romani and Travelers may choose to use and reclaim the term. Many ethnic groups reclaim slurs. As to the marginalization of the Travelers or even the Irish in general, do your research. There is a centuries long history of it. Several ethnic groups from Europe have been marginalized and many have suffered genocide. I am going to leave the conversation now but I will leave you with this. I fully acknowledge the marginalization and suffering of the Romani people. Do not deny the Traveler's suffering because of the color of their skin.
@MJ tops you're completely misinformed on Irish Travellers, we never stole anything from Gypsies. What happened was that regular people in the UK & Ireland didn't care to discriminate between Romani and Irish Travellers in the past, so called them all Gypsies as a pejorative. One which Irish Travellers have reclaimed and in English it has become a byword for someone rootless anyway. It's an adoption of a name, not a culture. We have our own culture and plenty of people lived semi-nomadic lives in the past. It's not exclusive to the Romani and / or Irish Travellers, we are aware that Irish Travellers and Romani, Cinti culture all have plenty of differences. Also, we are White but Irish Travellers were officially recognised as an indigenous ethnic minority in March 2017 in Ireland. In the UK, Irish travellers are a separate ethnic group entitled to the same protection under the Race Relations Act as other ethnic minorities in Britain.
The authors of this video and the people who play the racism card in the comment section have no fucking idea what they're talking about and probably have not seen a gypsy in their life.
0:32 Can you please put words in Google translate and listen to them in their native language, or an another service that has a similar result, before pronouncing them? I just tried Google translate for the French version and it sounds good.
the main reason gypsies were banned from countries because they were essentially foreigners. However Gypsies were never expelled from any lands, as you say in this video they just 'appeared and hung out near the edge of town' sounds a lot like jews after they have been expelled from the middle east by Rome
"Gypsy" is considered derogatory in many circles. However, it is clear that they are not "Romani" as in Roman, though, that is what they call themselves now. The video says that they are Indian.
They are from Rajasthan, india . Currently they are called 'banjara' here and they live same nomadic life.
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And Punjab, too.
Punjab and rajhastan Sindh i.am from Punjab we are very happy that they were from our land rajhastan Punjab and Sindh 🇮🇳 but also very less people's in India knows about them
Pakistan and Afghanistan as well, my family are all blue eyed blonde and red haired Roma Gipsies, that comes from the mountain/Hindu Kush tribes, we're related to several ethic groups including Kalash, Pamir, Kochi, ect. x
It’s all around India.
As someone raised in a traditional Gypsy family, I find this video to be a very rare and informative piece. Very well balanced and researched. You've earned a Sub.
Phoenix McShannon do u guys have a similar culture
Can I ask you something? The gypsies themselves seem to genuinely believe that they are descendants of the Pharaoh. This is seen in many of their culture (especially gypsy flamenco in Spain). What's the deal with that?
@Malik Hj banjara community in india
@Malik Hj Even their language is called Sindhi. Just like one of the biggest groups of Gypsies in Europe is called Sindhi. People from there even kinda look like European Gypsies.
@Bengal Sultan no they are very pale my girlfriend is from northern india and she is very pale although she is not a gypsie but she is from nagaland....
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I'm a Gypsy, I live in the US. That said, this video is very accurate and I appreciate you covering it with such detail. In the US we're not very well known as we don't make up a significant portion of the population as we do in Europe, so we aren't faced with much persecution here.
i'm technically a Gypsy, though i don't really partake in the culture- but seeing these comments hurt. people labeling us as thieves and stupid and worthless. it's upsetting. especially when the culture is so beautiful-
@@vince2936 99 percent of us are crooks and theives, i gave up that life... kudav tu muy te kudel o beng.. if your "technically gypsy "what did i just say..
nicko konovalov i said i don't partake in the culture. the last person in my family who knew the language that my Roma family spoke in hungary is dead.
@@vince2936 don't get upset ,not everyone is a thief
Get out from USA
So, they come from India, for anyone wanting to save 5 minutes.
@lolo lolan shut the fuck up. Why can't you accept the fact that they are from India. Don't blame Pakistans for everything. Why are u so insecure
Jatin justa why is he a dumbfuck they are from india Rajasthan
@@prateekreddy8442 to be honest they can be from pakistan and india both. becoz pakistan was the part of nothwest india. so their from both pakistan and india
@Zdravljica some of them can be from pakistan its comman sense becoz india and pakisran were same once and rajasthan is right next to pakistan so some of their ancestors can be a few mile from rajasthan right after all ancient rajasthan had more similarities to ancient pakistan than ancien south and east india
idiots theyre from both india and pakistan. besides they arent indian though, theyve been in europe for 1500 years, dont associate them with us
I am a gypsy and I own my own home, been to college, pay my bills and so on. My Daughter has been to university and is a school teacher. I have two sons, the eldest has bought his own home and the youngest lives in a property that belongs to my husband & I . They both have jobs. I must add that my family and my self have never stolen anything in our lives .
You, huns, are not wihte either. The lady is not hungraian gypsi, not mixed with not white huns but wihte indoeuropeans. You came form the mongolian steppes and your culture is not compatible with european culture. Let's add that in Hugary the mayority do everything to make obstacles for gipsies, discritminate us in education and labourmarket. Now the story is full. Yours is just the half of it. Yes, most us "your" people is racist, and it is the case. Tisztelet a kivételnek.
Sure you are, and the Europeans in Israel are Jews, the Europeans in Australia are aboriginals and the Europeans in the Americas are indigenous. Good one.
This is a thing named
Caring about your kids, and country
And having a brain
And being responsable
You dont look like a gypsy
"YoU donT loOk liKe a romAnI" these comments are so dumb. Romani are very diverse, they've been in Europe for hundreds of years, they're obviously gonna look mixed. Some Romani are very white looking and some look full indian. Yall are uneducated and it shows
This is awesome. My great great grandfather was Henry Taylor, a Romani Gypsy who is documented as being involved with some Birmingham gangs back in the early 1900s. My grandfather never knew his family, his dad left when my grandfather was born. My grandfathers mother passed away giving birth so he was eventually adopted and moved to America under a different name. He did a ton of genealogy and family tree digging to find out who his family was over the years. Tons of really cool stuff. My great great great grandfather (Henry's father) was a full blown Romani. Hung around Black Patch Park in Birmingham with other families such as the Boswell's, Hearn's, Lee's and Gray's. My grandfather has pages of documented stuff that he's found over the years.
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@@metwin09 of the peaky fookin blinders
Oh my gawd. That's really really cool
Was your grandfather’s name Michael?
@@vesperibanez7537 last episode soon 🥲
Gypsies frequent my village, alot of the time they are no problem and pass through, without issue, but there are way too many instances where groups have left their sites like a local tip and forced my community to clean up after themselves.
I mean i don't care if they come, my town needs the business, but for crying out loud just respect where we live and we will respect you. Same to fly tippers.
That's fake Irish gypsies lol
When I was a kid, my mother used to tell me that if I behaved badly she would sell me to the gypsies 0_0
Orca Whale They told me the similar stuff to me as a child. We used to hide and lock ourselves for hours from them whenever we heard that they were coming to town.
Well mate for sure your Romanian 😂😂
Thats racist. I am a gypsy. But yes i understand some of gypsies are pretty bad.
Orca Whale SAMEE. I was terrified
Ondřej Ganyo no
I can personally confirm this. I was born in Bulgaria in 2000 and was adopted to Denmark as a kid. I took a DNA test a few months back and my results were quite typical for a roma/gypsie. 50% Indian, about 30% Greek and approximately 15% Balkan as well as a few small chunks divided into Italy, Spain, Ashkenazi Jewish etc. - This march I travelled to Bulgaria to find my biological family and after only a few hours of searching in the town that was described in my adoption papers, we found a very friendly couple that helped us search for our biological parents (later it would be revealed that the guy was my cousin). Later when we found my mother, father and 11 siblings I talked to them about their origin since there aren't many good sources for information regarding their origin. My biological mother told me that there is a story that one mothers tells to her daughter and carries from generation to generation. It is about their ancestors and how they were the low social class in India about 10.000 years ago. Many lived from farming but at some point they ran out of 'ressources'. (I don't know what she meant and I thought it was best not to ask more about it). Therefore some decided to travel. Some split on their way and therefore some went to the eastern side of Africa. In many countries they were welcomed and some were later 'expelled' - she couldn't quite tell me why but I believe there had been some kind of conflict. Appearently this made them very introverted.. They are very proud and are absolutely loving, talented musically and will do everything for their families - even if it means stealing from others (though it should be noted that some don't - especially if they have work). For some they can appear cold and ungrateful but she thought that it maybe was because some had felt decieved or/and betrayed many years ago *another note: They were treated the same ways as jews, but by some reason they are rarely mentioned in history contexts*. I didn't quite get it all since I had a translator with me and he couldn't understand everything that they were saying because bulgarian is their 2nd language and they had another accent. She also said that, that for them it is considered a myth and simply a good story to tell their children, so she couldn't comfirm anything since no one has written it down. She said that it is because their language is only a spoken language. They don't use letters or writing in general.. Therefore it is also quite typical for them to be dyslexic even though they are very smart. Personally, I've never had any trouble reading or anything, but many of my siblings in Bulgaria were dyslexic. I told her about my DNA test and I guess it confirms her story. If anyone is adopted and believe they come from a roma family or have any questions, you are more than welcome to contact me on my E-mail address: michaelfrsig@gmail.com
It is kind of sad. They were low castes in India and migrated to Europe with the hopes of better lives and ended up becoming low castes in Europe as well. Particularly everyone forgets Nazi's genocide of Romani but remembers Jewish holocaust.
@@sriharshacv7760 ^^
I don't think that low social status was the main factor for their immigration to Europe. Their earliest record of arrival dates back to around the 13th century. Which is around when islamic invader were attacking India .
inidans are ugly, stupid (average IQ of 80 something), that's why they are not welcome anywhere.
@@sriharshacv7760they were not from the lower caste. After the Mahmud gajanavi s brutal attack on India gajanavi took them as slaves. So the reason for their exit from India was muslim invasions
It's important to note that the minority of them who actually chose to assimilate did so successfully. The EU has strict laws against discrimination at the workplace so as long as they are willing to prove themselves they will have jobs. Also, they most definitely can move across borders. I recommend googling what happened when they got into London in 2015.
They definitely are not denied employment rights since they are just plain lazy. I’m not generalising every gypsy like that. Very few of them do work.
@@Missyprincess719 The ones who do work don't call themselves Gypsy because they fear discrimination so you rarely hear/see a normal hard working Gypsy.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin exactly, my private teacher who knew i was gypsy told the other student, first thing she said was ''my mom said they are all thieves'' and people wonder why i hide it. in fact my family tree are all so cool and hardworking.
@@Missyprincess719 well if for hundreds of year people been saying to you that you are lazy and a thief i guess why not just embrace that lol. European called them lazy not because they are realy lazy but because they don't fit with the same mentality and culture of settled European. So to European their lifestyle seems like lazy, but for them taking a permanent jobs means you have to settle and buy home and that is against their culture. So they will only take a job that enable them to move around whenever they want.
@@wewenang5167 gypsies broke into my grandmas house
Ah, okay. So Khajiit are Skyrims version of real life gypsies.
GenuinelyJake haha yes
Don’t disrespect Khajits like that
Altin Bey don’t disrespect Romani like that
The khajit culture also has some inspiration from Indonesian culture
I was born in Hungary, but grew up in the United States. On a trip to my country of birth to visit family I was honestly shocked at how blatantly racist some ethnic Hungarians were towards the gypsies. I do have several Roma gypsies in my family through marriage, including several of my dad‘s cousins.
For a good reason
Europe for Europeans.
@@Phantom_Michael Hungarians are not European. They are asiatic as much as gypsies. Everyone came from somewhere, half of the Europe arent natives .
@@Phantom_Michaelthey are Europeans more than u
The amount of racism against Romani people is staggering
Peaky blinders brought me here. Tho I've always wondered this.
The thing about Peaky Blinders is that in many ways it was implied that the Shelbies were actually Irish travellers (which means they are not Roma people). Yet they call themselves Roma too. So it's like, they never actually clarify if they are Irish travellers or Roma. And I think it's because the producers don't even know the difference
@@javierperalta7648 The Shelbys are mixed race. Their father is Irish or a Tinker and a Roma. Their mother is full Roma that is why they are white complexion
By the order of the...
@@ColtonT13 if their mom is full Roma they would be dark lol. That one of the main reasons their people get discriminated.
@@Bando-fx4mf Neé String was said to be full Roma but maybe she had English ancestry as well idk
In Germany, we aren't allowed tho call them “Zigeuner“ anymore. It's a racial slur. We have to refer to them as “Sinti und Roma“
Here in the Netherlands nobody gives a shit unless it's on formal television, like the news.
But I guess, even though the word 'zigeuner' is the same here, it doesn't have the load of WWII to it.
I don't think we say zigenare here in Sweden too.. They Swedish people say rom.. But I am not a rom I am a traveler 😂
They are named gypsies, if you call them roma you are automatically racist by insulting my country Romania.
@@dexter7399 Idiot.
@@sairhug they are named gypsies not roma idiot.
Two years ago, when the Roma (Gypsy) Taxi driver in Bucharest to my amazement almost understood my conversation with my wife in the native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state in India, I decided to work on this and find out how.
Since the Taxi Driver understood the language of Rajasthan, I went through the history of Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was originally called and discovered that there was a huge exodus of the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan around 1050 AD who ,as the history says, fought 17 wars with Mohammed Ghauri. Most left with women folks leaving empty villages. Most Roma belong to the fine Rajput warrior caste and others were farmers called Jat who also were in the army.
While the great king was keen on continuing battles, many soldiers did not want to fight more wars and stayed at home. For a Rajput staying at home during war was a stigma. They were taunted for staying home at the time of war.
Therefore, as a folk song of Rajasthan says, they left their native land in groups. They left from no other part of India. Some went west and are called Gypsies or Roma now and some went down to south India where they still are in their red and yellow color clothes and with huge mustache. You can see them on google by clicking "Lambada in south India". I am from Rajasthan but live in south Indian city of Hyderabad and hence see Lambadas daily.
I was further shocked again when our Gypsy (Lambada) maid mostly understood an old Hungarian Roma lady talking in Romani about Nazi atrocities on a BBC program on TV while I understood it by reading the English captions. Apparently, the two ladies 9000 miles away now spoke same language spoken about 1000 years ago in their land of origin. We being from Rajasthan still use many of their words.
On the way to west, Roma took words from Persian like bibi and many other tongues including Greek (drost for road) and from Armenian and so on. Also, few joined them on the way from Sindh, another Indian province,now in Pakistan. They are still called Sinti within Roma and words like laklo, lakli, chavo are from Sindhi.
They somehow lost their surnames of fine Rajput warrior clans. Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia, Chauhan , Shekhawat, Nainavat Rathore, etc. But they kept first Indian names until 19th century like Amos Bihari and his daughter Panna Cinkova , both great Roma musicians from Hungary. Panna meaning Emerald is a pure Rajasthani name not used in other parts of India. You may look in Google for "Panna Cinka ". If they were not Indians, why otherwise would they have Indian names in Europe in the year 1711?
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani ( or Marwari) and Hindi, both of Sanskrit origin. Few are ek do trin nak(nose) bal(hair)angusth(finger) bersh(year) diwas(day) sassu sussro ( mother and father in law, from rajasthani) saalo Sali (brother and sister in law from Rajasthani) chora(boy) chori(girl) cior(chor, meaning thief)) gia sov, thalle, upral purano ( old ), dukh, kasht, tato, langhal(lame) maang, des, lajja and so on. About half are from Rajasthani and Hindi both of which originate from Sanskrit. I know hundreds. There are thousands. Luis Mori, another Roma has sent me a huge list of Romani words which I match with my Roma maid's vocabulary. Sometimes grammar has changed to European style, like we would say sov gia and Roma would say gia sov. Same meaning though. Has slept.
Also, all Indian languages including today's Rajasthani has two yous, one for Junior and one for senior. Romani and the language of Lambada even today have only one you which is "tu" used for Juniors and for very close ones which must have been so 1000 years ago.
Romani words are from pre-Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit like hiv(him in Sanskrit) for snow or ice is used while we in India now say barf which is Persian. Please go to the following in TH-cam to see more. “Romani an Indian lost Language”(th-cam.com/video/UJvn7nLeZaI/w-d-xo.html) by Adriano, an Italian Roma from whom I have learned much and also“Roma girl from Kosovo goes to India.....”(th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html)
All Roma had mustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of Roma were till recently practiced in India like Roma breaking the plate if animal licked it. My mother used to give the plates to beggars if our dog ever licked it even once. Also, food once served on table but not eaten does not go back to Fridge or saved for eating later. That is why death rate within Roma during great European plague was so low as claimed by scholars.
Roma had also carried our proverbs like "while choosing a daughter in law, believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation of the girl's family was more important than her beauty. Another common proverb is "If the road is crooked, you can't walk straight."
Roma eventually lost their religion, quite understandably but Sara kali of southern France is a Hindu deity of Goddess kali favourite of Rajputs. The deity is immersed in water body every year like we do in India. The Vatican has not recognized this deity as it has no link to Christianity. Romani also has an unusual word"trishul" from Sanskrit and Hindi meaning a spear with three fingers. This spear is associated with Hindu God Mahadev or Shiva and the war cry of Rajputs Regiment in India till today is " Har har Mahadev".
Please see on You tube "Dr. Ian Hancock: Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference, UC Berkeley" (th-cam.com/video/NTsqiP196Uw/w-d-xo.html). Dr. Hancock who is a Roma makes very scholastic analysis of Romani history from European side. He successfully dismantles myths like Roma are old Jews or from Egypt or came from within the earth. He establishes that Roma indeed came from India.However he has not said much about which part of India are they from and which language from India they speak. He only mentions "Indian Language" while there is nothing like Indian Language. We have hundreds of languages. India had hundreds of independent kingdoms. Rajputana, as Rajasthan was called then had many kingdoms too. Prithviraj Chauhan was the king of Ajmer in central Rajasthan from whose army Roma came.
He also links Romani with Sanskrit while truth is that Romani has words from Rajasthani and Hindi alone both of which originate from Sanskrit. Romani is made of languages which have Sanskrit base and directly from Sanskrit. There are many many words in Romani which none else from India except those from Rajasthan will understand like tato meaning hot . He also says Roma are Doms who burn dead bodies which is certainly not true. Doms live about 1000 miles away from Rajasthan and are dark skinned.
Many Roma have come to Delhi and Jaipur in Rajasthan to get their DNA tested and were doubly assured of their Rajasthan roots.
Also, one may see on TH-cam " Romani Dances in India-Kalbelia " (th-cam.com/video/q6HfenInNEA/w-d-xo.html) of Rajasthan which is same as Flamingo dance of the Roma. Even the dress of the dancers are same.
As a student in the US during seventies, I saw some slightly brown students speaking language somewhat familiar to me. They said they were new Roma migrants to the US from Spain but I did not know about Roma at that time.
I have received many mails from some Roma stating Roma were Doms and untouchables from India and so on. This should not be true. First, there are no Doms in Rajasthan. Second, Roma who came to south still have mostly Rajput surnames or "Gotras" and very few Bhil (a jungle tribe, but soldiers too) surnames. Gotras or lineages dont change in India. Third, down trodden and timid would not venture leaving home to travel thousands of miles and fourth, Doms are very dark even for Indian standards while Roma are not. Fifth, Romani has many war related words including a word for prisoner of war as Dr. Hancock says. Only a martial clan would use and keep alive these words.
There should be no doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena (We would say pra and behna). Hats off to them to keep the language and culture alive even after 50 generations while humanity in the entire world now melts away in two generations.
I am in contact with many European Roma from whom I gather some new facts time to time. I have also gathered the above information from history of Rajasthan.
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This could be a whole another video wow!
Khamma Ghani loya Shab, I'am a Marwari from Jodhpur and it's surprising for me to see some similarities between Roma language and Marwari but few things we need to keep in mind is that Marwari language was a very institutionalised and Organised before independence it was even used on official documents here in Jodhpur state(Marwar) but I think origin of Roma language and Marwari can be same which is a combination of Sanskrit originated words with Gujarati, little Sindhi. I don't think Roma language originated from Rajasthani/Marwari but our origin can be same. Iam not very well with history but i don't think we can surely say that Romas were Rajputs from Rajasthan. But still iam very fascinated by your research. Thanks alot 🙏
Sir, can you also mention the folk that folk song about soldiers abandoning villages.
@@sidharthvyas7870 But still its truly fascinating for a marwadi like me
India is a rather large and diverse place. Can they narrow it down more, or is "come from India" the best they can do?
Probably from Rajasthan or Gujarat or Panjab side of region. But i suppose, it's Rajasthan.
Im sinto from slovenia ,i can say only that - we are all made of stars from dust to dust and ashes to ashes ,we all have one of the dna from eva in africa .got have mercy on aur souls.mei hum sinto ,mai mei drosi glaiza dav na vek.hum ti cao ha ani hofunga ,u hailigepas del man ruva ,ti fraida anu zii.deva lei men nah men ham doh tire tchave.
Thank you so much for this video. Basically EVERYONE does not know the story of "gypsies" and what a unique people that they are. It's a truly amazing journey.
My great grandparents were Gypsy, and I take after my grandmother and her parents by far the most from my heritage. But I can get near zero information from my family, they go out of their way to hide and erase that section of our family tree. I feel such an outsider in my own family now. My grandmother told me many stories when I was very little, most I can only remember tiny bits from, and no one else will even discuss it.
I wish I could connect with my heritage, but since that is not possible as I have zero ways to prove any of it with my family stonewalling me. I guess maybe I should be happy I look passingly European, no one can hate me if I look white, living in rural USA.
Pretty sad that your family have had to hide who they are just to pretty much fit into general society. My grandfather generation tried to do the same but it didn't work.
Kevin J DNA
Hey men greetings from your indian brother
So sorry that your family are reluctant to get into a dialogue with you. My half Romany grandmother and full Romany great grandmother both died in the mid1940s in the UK*, so I had no chance - until researching my family tree in later life - to even meet anyone with a strong link to my Romany family tree.
*Both married non-Roms, as did my quarter Rom mother, so I am only one eighth Romany. The scary fact is, that if I'd been born a few decades earlier in Germany and had had children with a non-Rom during the Nazi regime, those children would have been caught up in the 'Porajmos' (Romany genocide), because having just ONE SIXTEENTH 'gypsy' blood was enough for consignment to the gas chambers.
Don't give up! Perhaps if you research your family tree and find links outside of your immediate family, you will strike gold? I did!
When I was around 50 years of age, through a chance contact I made online of her great-niece, I met up with the very elderly daughter of my great grandmother's sister. She was amazing - such a lovely, welcoming lady. I was able to ask her questions which became several pages of fascinating memoirs. Although she only vaguely remembered her Aunt Susan (my great grandma), and only knew of my grandma (her cousin) by family rumours (tip: never dismiss family rumours!), she had two photos which had been passed down by her by her mother of my great grandma, who I'd never seen an image of before, and four photos of my grandma ... where I'd only had one, previously.
Oh, and those family rumours? One that my mum (despite losing her mum AND maternal grandma before when she was 5) knew about was that we were somehow related to the world-famous Romany evangelist, Gipsy Rodney Smith (a precursor in evangelical fame and influence to Billy Graham). After a lot of research (not helped by a key ancestor having used her mother's maiden name as her surname when she got married ... a not uncommon Romany peccadillo!) I was able to confirm he was the first cousin of the aforementioned Susan's mother, Naomi. Imagine my amazement to discover that Gipsy Smith wrote his (best-selling) memoirs in 1901, and in them recounted several stories of Naomi's father - his beloved Uncle Bartholomew, and my 3 x great grandfather - including the circumstances of his death and his last words. There was even a photograph of Bartholomew in the autobiography. Mind-blowing.
I've also met the descendant of a brother of Naomi's - who emigrated from England to Canada in the early years of the 1900s and also became a well-known evangelist. She was also able to provide both photos and the memoirs of her ancestor and we've kept in touch and become good friends over the years.
So ... the moral of this story is ... get digging! It might take years, but if you persevere you never know what you will turn up. Good luck / kushti bok!
All I was told when mum had to admit gift I had…one other sister has….never told anything….dad I can take back to 1066…but only told you come from gypsies not tinkers…she was Irish background…..
thank you for teaching about my people with respect.
Hey bro greetings from your indian brother
The French word 'gitan/gitane' is said with a soft 'g' at the beginning, pronounced like in the name Django Reinhardt (a famous 'gitan' jazz musician, who grew up in a community outside Paris). Gitanes are also a brand of cigarette in France. The preferred word is 'Rom', though.
Thanks sir for discussing gypsy.i am from india i care for their wellbeings as they are our old family.please give them job and treat equal as a minority.and give nomadic id to travel in europe .because they are nomadic people respect their culture and prserve them and take care of them.joshi from india
I think India should stop making so many kids because you mixed a lot of countrys with your genetic. Just stop
When I was growing up, a Gypsy carnival passed through our old neighborhood every summer. Over the years, I became friends with them and and they showed me how their prize games worked, and which prizes were impossible to win. I miss their passing through to this day.
if you good to people they will be good to you, the idiots here dont get that
contrary to popular belief, but gipsies don't do carnivals for a living. the carnival that passed through your old neighbourhood was your own sort of people. ie none gypsys who chose a nomadic lifestyle. and if you were swindled by them in any way, then your own sort did it to you. which is nothing new, your governments have been doing it for a very, very, long time.
Constant Chaos bullfuckingshit. These people spit right in our faces. Fuck out of here you dumb libtard.
@@thecraplordsell4575 well I'm sure with your sunny demeanor you likely did something to them first lmfao
@Brie Flyyy I'm sorry what?
Im pissed. Typed roma into google, autocorrected to roman, typed romani, autocorrected to romania, TYPED ROMANY, AUTOCORRECTED TO ROMAN
Just type gypsy and you're good to go.
THere are 2 types of comments below this video. Those who faced this culture in their lives and those who didn't but tries to act modern equility performace.
Exactly
Not being able to comprehend reality vs ideas.. I would say it is just sign of stupidity and narrow mindness.
Tomas Puodziukynas You can't change a culture in one day. You can try to attrack them to your way of life, to your culture. But if they don't find it appealing at all, there's nothing else to do. I am speaking from my own experience, as a teacher of adult people. Luckily I have had the opportunity to teach several Gypsy people and I have seen they keep some values we have lost in this individualistic modern world. I have also seen how much they are in need but still they respect who respects them. Sometimes I feel we, as people, fail to understand other people who have decided to walk a different path.
If you let somone in your home, you expect that guest to follow and respect your basig rules?
Tomas Puodziukynas What do you mean with "your home"? Can it be "your country"? If you mean a literal home then, I agree with you. If you mean a country then I disagree because the rules that apply to us today change along history and, let's be honest, there are some rules that are unfair but I accept because otherwise I could end up in jail. Think of those rules that protect and give priviledges to the powerful and leave defenseless the most vulnerable. Countries and societies are alive when they constantly update and renew themselves.
I am a polish gypsy myself, thanks for this video.
ANTYSEMITYZM = ANTYCYGANIZM
@@moniidzia bruh what
The Irish gypsy's were descendants of the cottiers who were evicted by the landlords in the famine of 1845-1850 they lost their land in the famine and they never got it back.
A few DNA tests could resolve so many mysteries...
it did for me.
David O'Banion no, it’s actually don’t we tried also
Dna tests arent as accurste as people think.
Alexander Ravenson so could the Gypsies accutally be Egyptian?
@@vacantvminds2428 it seems a possibility yes.
I'm Spanish and grew up in a gypsy estate, I now live in England and I'm married to an English gypsy, Spanish and English gypsies are VERY different in tradition, culture and lifestyle
It is unthinkable in Spain for a non gypsy man to marry a gypsy woman where here it seems a lot more common, if this happened in Spain we would have had to flee to stop her family from killing us both, here her family have been amazing with me, they see me as one of them
Just found out that I have Gypsy heritage and connecting to many of my Gypsy cousins.
Your really pretty tho ❤️
I am an American who lives in Latvia and come from a Hispanic back ground. Because of my skin color I get mistaken for a gypsy and have had to deal with being stero typed. That is until I pull oit my USA passport and then how quickly they become nice to me.
I have adopted 2 Latvians and 1 Romi. The looks I get in Europe when my white Latvian kids call me daddy in front of others.
As for my Romi son, because we are both brown skin, I tell him to walk tall and let the people think what they want. Our actions will speak for them self that we are not thieves. It is funny when we go into town and get these stares from people. I tell my Romi son people are not used to seeing two well dressed and educated gypsy before. We don't fit their box of racist thinking.
This is well researched, and it helped me understand my heritage
I had 2 teenage gypsies approach me while I was in Germany holding signs that said they were deaf. They held their hands out for money but I said no. After I said no they scoffed at me and walked away. 5 minutes later I turned around a corner and saw them talking on their cellphones.
Well i must say we are not the only ones that steel do bad things when we go to jail we are not the only race in the jail everyone in the jail are mostly your own Pepole and no one talking shit about yohr nabors and family in there every race and famliy has a bad appel in it so the ones saying your not being racist piss off
We have hearing non-gypsy/Romani people do that here in the USA, too. White, black, Latino, etc. They even have cards made up to hand to people. This isn't a gypsy/romani issue.
I am A Roma gypsy myself and have had deaf gypsy's trying to sell paintings at my door haha. Once I told him that I was gypsy he soon shot off. Still for the life of me can't figure out how he understood what I said.
B1GGZY85 katar san?
@@StonerBoy-mel0dy Wales. UK
We hindus of india are with our gypsy brother please settle in india we call them banjaras in india they have special rights in india. Come here
then take them back please
@@messianic_scam we will take them back u take our Muslims, deal??
@@shivamsinghrawat9910
they are you ppl no?!
@we do a little trolling
you don't want your people how does the rest of the world feel!
My nickname in my last year of high school was Gypsy. I had my DNA test and it turns out that it is one of my top blood's ❣️
dead inside You can’t tell by DNA if you’re a Gypsies. Irish, Romanian etc etc can tell you race but not chosen lifestyle. Sorry.
@@CaptainAngelo okay I have Romani blood..why do you have to be a stickler or should I say stick in the mud. Take the log out of your eye before you try to remove the speck out of mine...
I know a family of gypsies who are very sweet and generous people. I remember one time many years ago I had accidentally locked myself out of my house and had to wait for my boyfriend to get off work to come let me in well one of the ladies and her husband let me hang out at their house until I could get in my home. I have known them for years off and on through various places I worked and I am very disappointed and the people on here who judge someone based on stereotype of a race. How would you like it if you were called names or people wish you harm or death. Don't judge a person unless you get to know them or you will be judged by others. Oh and I almost forgot about the time I was short of money and could not by myself lunch for work they helped me out
We are the best bread in all man kind. We get a bad name through a small amount of them. We have good hearts mean well and want the best for everyone
Are you Gypsy?
Discrimination? They really are a pain in the ass though. This isn't me being racist. It me speaking from experience
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Kevin Myerson then you need a hearing test
Turkey how can someone be a traitor to something that doesn't exist? Genetics solved it for good there's no such thing as race.
Paranormal Encyclopedia yeah, you're wrong
Dude, get a life. Calling every single comment that points out the problems with this group of people racist is not going to change the fact that they are right.
My only exposure to Roma were attempted pickpockets (teens) in Chisinau and Bucharest. Not the best first impression.
Cyberwar101 Move there and prove him wrong. Otherwise, shut up.
a lot of the picketpocket kids are bribed out of tribes with a job offer for a better job, then forced to work as a pickpocket, as they don't speak the language, have no money of their own, etc.
At least blacks go to school, work (for the most part) and live in houses
"live in houses" you are a better person because you live in a house
many of them have houses
Twat..
I’m 25% gypsy due to my biological father and my entire life growing up, my mom used to tell me she was ashamed of having me because I was part gypsy and I wasn’t allowed to let anyone know.
Oh, honey - that's awful. In my family tree research I have heard similar accounts, especially from the older generations. I'm also 25%, though, and was never made to feel ashamed ... on the contrary, amongst all the 'boring' people in my family tree, the Romany branch is a rare breath of fresh air! I think people were so much more judgmental back then .... it was part of the culture. Gradually things are getting better .... the 'stigma' of being born out of wedlock, for example, is way less, now.
Many great artists were Romani. Nothing to be ashamed of. Many of the dance forms of Europe were taken from Romani. Actually a lot to be proud of.
Apologies if this is an insensitive question, but, if she's bigoted against Gypsies, why did she sleep with one? Did she only learn his heritage after the fact? Or did something worse happen?
@@lizzychrome7630 I think it's more of the fact she just hated my father so much she hated everything about him that translated over to me as well
@@aruncv1373 Thank you very much for this comment! As an artist myself, this makes me feel very happy :)
You're a great presenter Simon! I love what you guys are doing, keep it up!
I was surprised that there weren’t many offensive comments here…then I realized racist people wouldn’t come here to educate themselves
isnt it disgusting how the Roma people have been treated over the years and by everyone in all different countries!?...they are just human beings like everyone else, living their lives with whatever means they have. i don't which year these people from india left, but i do know the portuguese inquisition in goa in 1560 left a lot of indians leaving for their lives, although it is thought these were people with land ownership and of hindu, jewish or muslim origins, i am one of those. lot's of wars displace people but also slavery has moved people across continents on those times and people moved for work too.
I'm not German but damn you sure butchered that ziegoiner
I guess working on the pronunciation of each would have taken too much time
Or about ten minutes, but yeah, he routinely murders foreign languages in those videos. A shame because, for the most part, they're entertaining and he has an excellent diction.
And it would be nice if my actual last name wasn't butchered into approximately "grow-what the fuck ever dude..." BUT you just can't get expectations too high... so just laugh, it's easier..:o)
yes, well done, you would use a sound like in "groin" to pronounce "geuner", so writing it like this "Ziegoiner", is pretty close to the actual pronunciation :)
Nope. "Z" in German needs to be transcribed to "Ts" for it to come out right in English. (Which Jiddish actually does).
I had a teacher last year who told us of his trip to Romania. During his trip, a restaurant owner picked up and threw a boy several feet away from my teacher's tourist group, because he believed that he was going to pickpocket them.
i am 50% roma Gypsy and i live in america. even though i live in america i can tell you there is some racism towards gypsies in europe. i was on a app called whisper and i made a post that said i don't know much about roma gypsies even though i am one and there was so much hate towards me flooding in from europe, i acted civilized and nice (kinda sarcastic at times yes) but people didn't care they were rude and told me to get a job, said i probably stole my phone and when i said i worked in a cabinet factory they said stop lying and to go back to running my fair grounds in which i said if i did run a fair you would be my clown. i don't get that hate in america although most americans don't even know gypsy aren't really mystical or just culture let alone a race. even though i can claim the title i guess i cant speak for them in europe but here in america we have native americans. most native americans wouldn't want to assimilate because it would hurt their culture which in the gypsies case might be the same.
I'm honored to see this video I'm a gipsy even called tigan,I learned to accept myself that people is racist to me,and there is good people who will stand by my side forever,love yall❤️
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TH-cam, cred ca ar trebuii sa se numească GypsyTube la cît de mult le ia apărarea la țiganii aștia 😂😂😂
To all the SJW who defend them without ever meeting one, you are lucky for not meeting them. And all your possessions.
thats straight up dumb, i am a good person who betters the lives of those around him and it would be anyone's privilege to meet me, and there are more important things to worry about than your possessions, that is such a harmful mindset
yeah dude you are a good guy , who literally replied on someone else's comment saying you would fight anyone who didn't call you romani instead of a gypsy , you're such a good guy man , confucking gratz
who the fuck are you kidding , you and many more like you are the reason why people look down on you, because there are more people that do wrong shit than people that are actually decent, just like you
You Are Racist Idiot.
@@medusachristo3725 For what? Speaking the truth?
Thanks for this, it was very informative, I remember not once but twice reading about gypsies in wikipedia and never got to understand anything
What does the title have to do with the video contents? Actually, I heard somewhere that gypsies were from India, descendants of a warrior group that had lost their territories and were forced into exile.
Yes, from Indian people called Rajasthan. The language of the Rajasthan is very similar to our romanes language
For some reason that sounds badass
They were forced because of turkish invasion. THEY HAVE INDIAN DESCENT.
Millions of them were killed in the afghan region. The place was renamed after the massacre as Hindukusch. The grave of the Hindus. Some fled to the west. But were again persecuted by the Christians.
Then it’s been a fight for them to survive and keep their link to motherland. They haven’t assimilated to Europe cause assimilation was very different just less than a century back in Europe.
Iam gypsi woman...42.y old.Iam not travelling, not stollen anything, working,study...clean and living normal life like u..I tok DNA and results:42%india, and left is...IRAQ,SYRIA,EGYPT,GREEK...IAM HAPPY IAM GYPSI..
Bonus fact:
As far as I know, the German word "Zigeuner" (/tsigoyner/) actually means "Zieh-Gauner" which is composed of a word meaning to wander / travel around and a word meaning "criminal".
My first impression with gypsies was listening to "Gypsy Kings". Amazing!
Here is some fact about the Romas or Romanis. Here in Hungary the government often gave them brand new houses with wooden floors, hand carved wooden doors, nice gardens and such for a minimal fee. Couple years go by in the winters they have burned all the wooden flooring and doors in the fireplace, and replace them with either some tarp or some missfitting stuff found in the junkyard. I own several properties, i rented some out to some Romas, and in 6 months time i had to spend about 1.4 million HUF on repairs due to their neglegant behaviour in and around the house. Their rent was only 20 thousand HUF a month so it nowhere nearly covered a fraction of the damages. I'm not racist. I have many Roma friends and i do like their culture (what remains of their culture). But i will never rent out any of my properties to them ever again.
Since then i have been renting out my properties to "Magyar"-s and every 6-8 months I have to forego some rent in favor of repairs and improvements the tenants done on their own accord to my properties.
And most are either from India, Romania, rarely france, learn with it brain, I didn't used to like them before , but once someone attacked me, and the gypsy/travellers actually saved me, And none have ever stole from me.. And they work trust me they all work all Roma Irish English gypsies work! And never mess with them, trust me, there worse than gangs.
Irish travellers are not Romany they speak different languages and the phrase Roma or Romany gypsies has nothing to do with Romania the country, Romany is its own language and culture
So. You are using the the word gypsy instead of Romani. I'm always confused if it appropriate to use that word (isn't it a pejorative?), but here it is your preferred reference term.
Okay wtf, does Simon have every channel on youtube??? I'm not complaining but goddang this guy puts in work
I’m a half British and half Gypsy, that’s cool.
Wow!!!
You talk really fast. Thank you for the intermittent subtitles! It’s an interesting subject!
I have seen them in Rajasthan, complete with wagons, and wrist to elbow ivory bracelets on the women.
Yes
I am from gypsy heritage from North India but live in UK and I am a tax payer
Holy shit Simon looks sooooo young 😂
I am a Bulgarian and I have never been robbed by gypsies despite visiting my cousin's place (he lives next to gypsy neighborhood) on a regular basis or often being surrounded by members of that ethnicity while commuting by train when I was a uni student. I have witnessed a peaceful gypsy man being verbally abused during one of those trips though. I have also witnessed employment discrimination while working in a fast food chain - while viewing the job applications the restaurant manager admitted he won't be calling those who seem to be from the "mahala" (based on their photos or names) for an interview - and I tend to think this happens quite often. But those claiming that none of the gypsies have a job must have never gone past a construction site or seen the women brushing streets and sidewalks.
Crime is surely a serious among gypsy communities but I wonder how many of the commentators have been victims of gypsy crime themselves rather than hearing about it from the media. (Gypsies begging OTOH is something I have witnessed quite often but that is not as serious an offence IMO) And while living off welfare is common among people of that ethnicity I believe the idea most people have about the extent of it is exaggerated. (I read quite an eye-opening study by the Solidarity of Bulgaria NGO touching that topic).
Claiming the "majority" bears zero responsibility for the issues of the gypsy communities is ridiculous.
You should visit Spain gypsies communities, I'm sure you will go out from there without phone, wallet, shoes...
I worked for a Gypsy gentleman when I was 16 yrs old , my brother and I would go to backyard cook-outs at his house What a Party ! there was a girl named Rose she was my age Oh man she was Gorgeous made me weak in the knees if I looked in her eyes I'd get dizzy ! I was told by her Aunt if I valued my Family Jewels I'd better keep my hands and my Jewels to myself , I ignored the aunts advice but all I got was a set lovers nuts 3 sets actually . ...Haven't thought of her in years wonder how she is getting along . . .Oh and Great guy to work for I was paid very well treated my brother and I better than he treated his own sons . ..
I'm a gypsy, my family is from Hungary Budapest.
No you are from a caravan 😂😂
King Kong Z nope I was born and raised in Chicago Illinois in a big beautiful home. Funny how people talk shit on internet but in person their scared little kittens 🐱! Lol
Alex C that’s right I’m a typical Hungarian Gypsy and ur a typical racist!
They left India in 1050 and not 1500 years ago. We have the records here. I can understand 25 percent of their words. I am from Rajasthan, India.
@The Engineer Guy Dude I visited taj mahal just a month ago
Dude I’m starting to really understand why my mothers gypsy ancestors came to America, Jesus lmaoo
Thanks for the video, I found it to be very informative.
I found the comments section to be very informative as well... Just in a more disgusting way.
So many people pretending they are better while they spout such vitriol and hate, demonstrating their hypocrisy.
How completely disgraceful.
"Making them the continent's largest minority group" isn't that a lot like being the continent's tallest midget or shortest giant?
@@Person16384 yes really
Exactly.
I'm English, and growing up, gypsy travellers were always feared and loathed as dirty criminals. I could never understand why people fear them so much. They never did me any harm.
Hey Simon just wanted to say that ur videos are appreciated on all ur channels even if they don't get a million views
In India western part of our country, a community of people we call them in my language 'Zazabor' who travel all over India, they don't say at one place. They usually earn money by selling some stuffs. There's very similarities between these community. So they might be from India cause I saw a pic of Gypsy woman who dress like Zazabor. But time has changed.
What about English,Irish,Polish, Lithuanian and Russian Gypsy people's. Not everyone is a dark skinned Gypsy.
i am assuming you're gypsi
Not all the British gypsy are mix they will not go on TV like me
@@josephjones5099 how do my name is David Jones just wondering how did you end up with the name in a travelling community no offence on my mother's side we're all Martins all of my best nights out in memory is in asite in dunshaughlin drinking for 3 days singing eating slagging arguing with each other all in good fun just and do you think there is a difference between Roma gypsy community and the Irish and English travelling community just wondering as a Jones never seen the name in that community?🖒
@@alwaysgood6200 Romania gypsies tend to take names on that are used in the countries they reside in. My family have been in he UK for many many many years and having taken on names such as Worrell, Smith, Jones, price etc. It is just a way of making society accept them a little more
@@Biggzy85, I look at your comments that most of the shit and you talk wanted and unfriendly without knowing anything about us Roma! I am ethnically Romanian born in Romania! Most Romanians in Romania and many other history lovers should do well to learn history! The majority Romanians in Romania officially denominated themselves until 1862 "valahi". I know very well the history of the Romanian country and of the Romanians and I will honestly tell you that these people who call their country "Romania" and they call themselves Romanians that until 1862 this little country was a kingdom officially called "Wallachia". Authentic Romanians are not even the citizens of Rome, because that is how the Latin Romanians migrated from Troy (Asia Minor, Anatolia), to the Italian peninsula in the eighth century BC. . The Etruscans, are of Semitic (Iranian) descent. This is how the so-called Latin Romanians called their empire after the Etruscan "ruma". From where Romanians, like Trajan, the Roman was Iberian (Lusitanian). The origin of the pre-Romanic languages originated in Iberia. As for Roma, even if you don't believe it, Roma are the first Indo-Europeans. The Roma descend from the Dravidian Indians, which in turn, the Indians descend from the Dravidian African tribes. The Roma descend from an old and great people, who faxed the first 3 major civilizations of the world: the Egyptian, the Mesopotamian and the Indus Valley, called "mohenjo daro and harrapa. Civilization built in 3500 BC.
It has recently been officially recognised that Travelers (Irish Gypsies) have there own culture. I went to primary school with a lot of them and I got on well with them. I've always wondered what happens to Travelers who try to leave Traveler culture, or diverge from the norms and expectations. They traditionally don't go for further education. They marry cousins when they're young. What happens when they don't follow this?
They settle down and get a job like everyone else. My husband grew up in a trailer, went to school!! in 7 different countries until his parents felt too old travel and settled down in Germany (they originated from Hungary). He has a good job and we live our lives like all others do :)
They are a really interesting bunch I’ve seen loads of videos of American gypsies, those who live in the Uk, Bulgaria and Romania. I must say from an outsider’s perspective, they seem like a culture so engrossed in their traditions that they’ve basically ignored current norms of society. For example in most societies education is vital but they live in first world countries with little to no education and while most cultures marry over 21 that’s like spinster age for them. I can see how some people might be annoyed by them as they have been linked to high crime rates and seem to ignore government help but I feel they are slowly changing with time and having clear communication with them is vital as they seem very welcoming to people who have documented them from what I’ve seen.
When you say Gypsies in the UK do you mean travelers? Because they’re a distinct ethnic group from actual Gypsies.
From Casual Criminalist to "Today I Found Out", Simon's got us coveted!
My mom said if theres a gypsies caravan dont leave shoes outside the house
Living in a society usually means that you have rights, but also duties. In my opinion they demand (and are given) all the rights, but fulfill none of the duties. Like sending their kids to school, paying taxes, comply with laws and norms, etc. Its a very complicated issue to deal with, as most are uneducated, violent and have no wish to integrate in our society.
You are a fucking racist
I have a fascination for the Roma. Their music cuts so deep; such feeling. I am a musician so I follow their music. In their culture, the highest a Roma can go in life is to make a living as a musician. In the old days for royalty and today, perhaps the masses. My favorite is Spanish but I like all of it. They must have American Roma music.
For a group without a nation, they seem to have a very strong culture. I heard that Romania is like 90 something % Roma and they are the minority there.
They are from India. Go through Rajasthani folk music and Indian classical music. There is Kashmiri music. And Afghani music there. All of this will be in Romani music.
They were most likely slaves traded by Turkish invaders. Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan are called so because Indians (Hindus) were traded there as slaves, just like black people were taken to Americas and Indians to Caribbean.
My coworker told me today gypsy was asian. My ancestry is of gypsy. At least they told me don't tell anyone. It
The linguistic study of Roma/Gypsy language pointed out there is a large occurrence of military words. "You fat doser" dosser for example, it's root is a north indian word for prisoner of war. There is also lots of words for weapons. I reckon the Gypsies left India as part of an Islamic army and then followed the Islamic/Ottoman expansion into Europe.
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"Romani does have a set of words having to do with warfare, and those are of Indian origin. The words for ‘fight’, and ‘soldier’, and ‘sword’, and ‘spear’, and ‘plunder’ and ‘battle-cry’ as well as several others have been a part of the language from the very beginning.” -- (Author and academic Ian Hancock 2002:10).
romani.humanities.manchester.ac.uk/virtuallibrary/librarydb/web/files/pdfs/379/Paper24.pdf
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Hancock
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Next time you write your comment do it on the video page! If you start typing a comment in the popout you are more likely to lose the comment before you posted! I did not remove any comment f*cking fool!
So many people in the comments complaining about "racism," but let me just tell you why you're wrong. I am not a racist person, I believe that everyone should be treated equally, regardless of ethnicity or culture. However, having grown up in a country where I have to face gypsies every single time I leave the house, always begging me for money, it becomes tiring and I've developed a hatred for most of them. I appreciate the gypsies who actually work and try to make a living for themselves, but they're a minority within a minority. Most gypsies just beg at the age of 25 so they can feed their 10 children. And it's not like the government hasn't tried to integrate them; they've built apartment buildings for them and tried to get them to work, but those buildings are now in an even worse state than older buildings in Romania, because that's just how they are. There are some rather extreme comments promoting genocide, but, honestly, there is no possible way to integrate them. And that is why I and many other people have come to hate gypsies. Also the fact that they're now calling themselves "romani" because "gypsy" became a "racial slur". You did that yourself, gypsy wouldn't be a racial slur if you hadn't made a name for yourselves as thieves, liars and criminals. I do not wish to hate gypsies, but that's currently the case for me.
Yeah you are racist... You are seeing problems (don't get me wrong, i'm not denying the existence of the problems) and focus to find the cause of these problems within their "race". So to say that you are not a racist is being a freaking hypocrite. That's basic racism 101. Why is there so much racism against black people in the us? Because there are problems, but they exist because of poverty and social discrimination. Their "race" is just the reason how they got to be in that situation.
Robb Reyne Racism would be discriminating against them purely based on their race, which I don't do. I know that there are gypsies who work hard and stuff, what I was stating was simply an observation I have made over the past years I've lived here. I never said all of them are this way.
Robb Reyne Also, don't compare that to the situation of black people.You can see it in this video that their situation is completely different and black people actually try to integrate themselves, unlike gypsies.
yeah because their cultural differences are bigger and the history of discrimination is far longer than that of the afro-americans, which of course makes it harder to tackle these problems, but still doesn't make the reasons for it any less true. "but they don't want to integrate themselves, but are still living in their own communities" (not quoting) still could be said about afro-americans "they live in their hoods inside their black communities" . just read all the comments here and imagine that you are a gypsy, would you really want to interact with them? discrimination isn't always based on one reason, and if the race is "only" one part of it, it is still racism.
I'm not very well informed on the history of afro-americans, so I can't say how similar their situations are, but I've never known of any marches or protests of the gypsies for their freedom, the only one I remember is them protesting that their name is changed from "gypsies" to "rroma". And the government has tried to integrate them, at least in my country, and it was definitely them who didn't accept the integration. For afro-americans, wasn't it that the government was refusing to integrate them?
As for the racist comments, yes, some of them are blatantly racist without giving any reasons, but I have given my reasons for not particularly admiring most gypsies, and I think they are well-justified. I've met gypsies in my life who also disagree with their fellows and have the same opinion as I do on this topic, more or less. Also, a gypsy probably wouldn't speak English well enough to read most of these comments and a lot of them don't even have a place to live, so the ones I am talking about can't be offended by these comments. I know that there are civilized gypsies, and I very much admire them for standing up to their peers, but unfortunately, there are not enough of them for me and most of the people I know to actually admire and respect gypsies as a whole.
My ancestors are gypsies my great great grandpa was the last proper gypsy in the family
Then you have indian dna 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@saheb-jg9nj nah I’m latin my family is Spanish and Cuban
In Spain in 1990, a Gypsy woman walked up to my husband and me, asking for money. When we refused her, she protested, and said, (in Spanish) "Well your wallet is right here, can't you just give me a little money?", as she started putting her hands on my husband's belt, and then started putting her hand into his front pocket to get his wallet, in broad brazen daylight. I formed my opinion of them that day.
You’re a fucking dickhead
Lol so if a person of another race will say something stupid to you ,you are going to use one person behaviour to represent the whole community ?are u seriously that dumb?there are countless of people that are acting the same way that are white ,black ,Asian and any other race .Stop being blind no need to have that much hate in your heart ,they are People as well ,just look how they European where treating them through the all freaking millennial ,they were extremely discriminated even now ,they were slaves ,they were killed on sight by nazi ,it makes sense why they keep their community by themselves when they are being treating like this ,in their same country .
@@Omar-kl3xp i say this from experience, i live in a place where gypsies arent exactly uncommon. yes you cant judge an entire group of what "SOME" people from that group do. but when you experience negative behaviour from a specific group once, twice, three times, four times... 15 times, so on, every time you meet them, and prehaps once or twice you experience a positive side. then you know the difference between "SOME" and "MOST".
obviously that doesnt mean that you have to be prejudical every time you see a gypsy. but that still doesnt mean you cant point out a common problem among their group if its quite obvious just so you dont offend someone.
@@Omar-kl3xp im not racist, i dont believe gypsies in general do have such bad behaviour because of their race or ethnicity, if i would believe so i would be racist. but i'd say at least half of gypsy population if not more do have such negative behaviour, i dont believe thats because of their race, i believe thats because of their refusal to integrate and they have sort of a tribalistic view, as if because they are gypsies and not tied with the rest of the world they are allowed to do anything they want. all i say is that countries like poland, hungary, czechia, germany, and france have tried to integrate them for more than 400 years now and they still couldnt.
I'm thinking my dad's side of the family has some Romani ties. I don't know why but my genetics come from Britain, Ireland, Scotland, Armenia, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Russia, France, Germany, Norway/Scandinavia and Ashkenazic influence. I feel a natural understanding with the Romani.
Thank you for this video
A term probably not used so much today was getting "gypped" meaning ripped off/short changed originated from the word gypsy.
Interesting. I didn't know that.
itish gypsies have shown genetically to be of Irish descent spliting from main population 1000 years ago
no British gypsys/Romany, are of Indian descent, Irish travellers are of Irish native decent. you don't seem to have understood what the man says in this video, or if what your saying is true? then tests must have been done on Irish travellers claiming to be Romany. Romany gypsys are of Asian descent. that's why people used to mistake them for Egyptians, hence the name gypsy.
@Alex C gypsys are all over the world my friend. and i know quite a few gypsys from Romania. its where the word Romany stems from.
@Alex C i know the Romanian people are not gypsys. but the gypsys who are from Romania, are called Romany. you clearly didn't understand the comments i have previously written, so it's you who is the stupid one. i am a gypsy yes. but I can assure you I'm far from being stupid. hate to break this to you already, buts it's you who is the stupid one. and everyone in the comment section knows it, except you.
@@fighting3209 The word romany doesn't stem from Romania my friend,all gypsies in europe are known as rom or romany wherever they live.The two similar names are result of a coincidence according to the western europeans that insisted they should be called that way.
@@flo2k932 i very much disagree,. but if you can produce any evidence to the contrary? I'm more than sure that i and every gypsy historian reading these comments would be very interested in looking at it. i think you have Romay and gypsy mixed up, the Europeans preferred to call them gypsy because they looked Egyptian.
I'm Gypsy, however I live in Canada. I knew racism existed towards Gypsy's across the pond but reading these comments makes me disheartened and NOT EVER want to travel to Europe like I previously did prior to reading these comments. Giving gypsies opportunities instead of persecution will solve a lot of the issues. And no. It's not going to happen right away. Probably not even in one generation. It takes time and compassion to solve something that's existed for possibly 1 thousand years.
Why not in one generation? WHY? It has to be instant change, not slow and gradual! Taking time takes too long. It took less "time" for America to go from having no space program at all to putting Neil Armstrong on the fucking moon!
AirCooledMan2006. You are simply comparing two totally different things. Putting someone on the moon was a matter of science, not culture. Even though we pretty much have the "tools" to change a culture, it takes time. You can't change ideologies or culture in a matter of days. This is simply impossible due to our own psychology. Culture, tradition, ideology are the three things that are extremely well rooted in us. My opinion, in order to change one of those you have to take time or cut the roots while the individual is young.
Those who moved to North America typically settled down and integrated into society. It would be difficult for them to do anything illegal without having to contend with both the legal system and various already established criminal gangs.
Europe is too racist, especially the idiots from West. They don't spend enough money with the gypsies, especially in East where they are less civilised.
I'm in the US, Romany, and I very much feel the same
Haven't watched it yet but I want to express my appreciation for your channel making videos available with 720p60, not many channels do so and I find it to be quite enjoyable, so thank you from a loyal viewer 💋
I've just has been thinking: "Gypsies has to be from India". Then I searched on YT: where do gypsies come from ? And here I am !!
They are from Romania
An interesting video could be on the Irish Travellers. They share some things in common with Romani but are likely a different ethnicity.
They do share some culture cause they mixed and lived together . However they are not the same people . Different genetics
@Farla Bau fair enough sorry !
@Farla Bau Wow this was from 4 years ago. Anyway, I said they share some things in common. Do your research both groups do. Romani and Mincéirí are generally different ethnic groups. Having similarities between two different groups is nothing new. Tons of ethnic groups have things in common. Gypsy is not their term for themselves. Rather like Romani it was an ethnic slur used by outsiders for them. Mincéirí is a better choice or at least Travelers. They are just another marginalized group in Europe and elsewhere. They didn't steal Romani cultural identity. They have their own.
@Farla Bau Ok this is going to be long. No I am not saying that they are the same ethnic groups. I am saying both are marginalized groups that have some things in common. As to the term Gypsy do your research. It is a racial slur that has been applied to more people that just the Romani. It's like many slurs. They get applied all over the place. There many many cultures in Africa but a single racial slur is often used for them. Whether you like it or not, it has been applied to both groups over the years. It's a fact. The important point is that it was applied and it's a slur. Both Romani and Travelers may choose to use and reclaim the term. Many ethnic groups reclaim slurs. As to the marginalization of the Travelers or even the Irish in general, do your research. There is a centuries long history of it. Several ethnic groups from Europe have been marginalized and many have suffered genocide. I am going to leave the conversation now but I will leave you with this. I fully acknowledge the marginalization and suffering of the Romani people. Do not deny the Traveler's suffering because of the color of their skin.
@MJ tops you're completely misinformed on Irish Travellers, we never stole anything from Gypsies.
What happened was that regular people in the UK & Ireland didn't care to discriminate between Romani and Irish Travellers in the past, so called them all Gypsies as a pejorative. One which Irish Travellers have reclaimed and in English it has become a byword for someone rootless anyway.
It's an adoption of a name, not a culture. We have our own culture and plenty of people lived semi-nomadic lives in the past. It's not exclusive to the Romani and / or Irish Travellers, we are aware that Irish Travellers and Romani, Cinti culture all have plenty of differences.
Also, we are White but Irish Travellers were officially recognised as an indigenous ethnic minority in March 2017 in Ireland.
In the UK, Irish travellers are a separate ethnic group entitled to the same protection under the Race Relations Act as other ethnic minorities in Britain.
The authors of this video and the people who play the racism card in the comment section have no fucking idea what they're talking about and probably have not seen a gypsy in their life.
0:32 Can you please put words in Google translate and listen to them in their native language, or an another service that has a similar result, before pronouncing them? I just tried Google translate for the French version and it sounds good.
You can also look up the pronunciation of any language on forvo.com
the main reason gypsies were banned from countries because they were essentially foreigners. However Gypsies were never expelled from any lands, as you say in this video they just 'appeared and hung out near the edge of town' sounds a lot like jews after they have been expelled from the middle east by Rome
while watching the video, 10% of the charge was stolen from me
"Gypsy" is considered derogatory in many circles. However, it is clear that they are not "Romani" as in Roman, though, that is what they call themselves now. The video says that they are Indian.