How They Did It - Growing Up Roman

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  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Check out our other "Growing Up" episodes!
    "Growing Up Carthaginian" - th-cam.com/video/T8tZ2G51ST8/w-d-xo.html
    "Growing Up Aztec" - th-cam.com/video/wsNdYD8DODo/w-d-xo.html
    "Growing Up Viking" - th-cam.com/video/TdfdVDvA3tY/w-d-xo.html

    • @georgehall570
      @georgehall570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello

    • @historic66_io
      @historic66_io 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      could you do "growing up samurai" at some point? or, actually, more interesting would be growing up samurai vs growing up in other classes in feudal japan. ^_^

  • @stormsofpoets
    @stormsofpoets 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12315

    Hi, welcome to my home. This is my wife, and these are my children, Julia, Julia: The Sequel, 2 Fast 2 Julia, and Julia: The Julianing

  • @nightviber2097
    @nightviber2097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10929

    "Kids were punished for being a bit too quiet"
    *me being the silent kid through my whole childhood*
    *chuckles* "Im in danger"

    • @nightviber2097
      @nightviber2097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +218

      @@ethank.6602 says im not autistic

    • @firstnamelastname7079
      @firstnamelastname7079 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@ethank.6602 hes lying,thats sus af

    • @RayFlemming7080
      @RayFlemming7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +393

      I was a really quiet kid too, to the point that many kids in my class didn’t know what my voice sounded like. The idea of being punished for being quiet is strange; my teachers usually saw me as a breath of fresh air considering how many noisy kids there were in my class.

    • @Adelei42069
      @Adelei42069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Yeah, me too. I’m glad I’m not ancient Roman.

    • @Adelei42069
      @Adelei42069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Ethan K. I’m Autistic and it said I’m not. Granted I am quite high-functioning, but I only got a 47%.
      Also, just because someone is quiet doesn’t mean they’re autistic.

  • @mattc9998
    @mattc9998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10186

    "[The child] was placed on the floor" - Sounds a lot like The Sims tbh

    • @mahoushoujocaroline
      @mahoushoujocaroline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

      Matt C
      They can’t put the baby on the floor. The baby is already on the Ancient Grill.

    • @Barasforlife
      @Barasforlife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

      *mouse clicking intensifies*

    • @welfarecrusader6855
      @welfarecrusader6855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Afterwards the child is bathed in the 2nd floor master bedroom sink

    • @BelleFlower15
      @BelleFlower15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      I swear the makers of the Sims made the babies be attached to their cribs in the Sims 4 to try to dispel this meme. It didn't work. 😂

    • @boom350ph
      @boom350ph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      No one please like his likes is now perfect for the ritual

  • @excellent808
    @excellent808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6162

    Good to know that the Older generation talking shit about "kids these days" transcends through time and its not just said today

    • @spectrum3808
      @spectrum3808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      IKR???

    • @margaridaferreira8029
      @margaridaferreira8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +581

      Once in a museum, the thing I enjoyed the most was a timeline of such elders complaints. First it was the books that were such a terrible thing, that children did nothing more than read. Then it was the horrible way of buying ink instead of mixing their own ink. Then it was the pens that were the cause of children being little shits, because they were so used to having things made for them, instead of preparing their own quills.... On and on until the last one that was quoting the evil thing called smartphone. I laughed so much at all that.

    • @lurategh
      @lurategh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +336

      The "kids these days" mentality has always and will continue to exist for as long as humankind does tbh.

    • @kingrichardiii6280
      @kingrichardiii6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      there was a story about Julius Caesar as a teenager where it was pretty much the "kids these days... show no respect".
      Sula was the dictator and he pretty much put up public hit lists against his political enemies and Caesar was on it, for being the grandson of one of Sula's opponents i think. Caesar's friends negotiated Sula to remove his name and Caesar was invited to Sula's home to show his gratitude. Instead Caesar dressed sloppily and glared at Sula. Sula honored his promise of freeing Caesar but said "he will destroy everything we wish to preserve" referring to Caesar's future of overthrowing the republic.

    • @artygunnar
      @artygunnar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Necessary part of life

  • @Kriosaivak
    @Kriosaivak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4832

    “Come here, Julia.”
    *Julias 1 through 13 come in*
    “I have made a serious mistake.”

    • @heraturcoaz5131
      @heraturcoaz5131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      But is easier. When you're in a crisis all you say is: Julia. And puff!
      All Julia's in position of attack.
      Instead of
      Julia
      Martina Roberta Elena*after 5more minutes in battle*.....and finally justinia. etc.
      The father finished calling all his daughters names. But hey. All people were dead and the daughters were gone, with long before until he got to the 6th daughter name 😂😂

    • @kodingkrusader2765
      @kodingkrusader2765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Cant ever call a kid the wrong name tho

    • @hathawyn
      @hathawyn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      They actually referred to each of them from the second onwards by their number. So you’d call “come here, Julia” if you wanted the oldest one. “Come here, Secunda” if you wanted the second one, and so on.

    • @afriendlypoltergeist4073
      @afriendlypoltergeist4073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      They usually called them quintulla, quadratulla etc. to tell them apart

    • @elloello4236
      @elloello4236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Dam right 13 children is a bad unlucky number better have another

  • @MogofWar
    @MogofWar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2962

    Having a slave whose job it is to beat you... only in Rome.

    • @randomuser5443
      @randomuser5443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +408

      I went from poor to beating a rich kid. I like Rome

    • @dust1077
      @dust1077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Kinky

    • @shudheshvelusamy7644
      @shudheshvelusamy7644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      In Mother Russia, slave beats you!

    • @ZeldaLover6
      @ZeldaLover6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      There’s an old saying “When in Rome do as the Romans do”.

    • @FlameDarkfire
      @FlameDarkfire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, people gotta pay good money for that nowadays.

  • @MagicianFairy
    @MagicianFairy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6798

    14 to 20's were considered to be a period of madness... You mean.. like.. puberty and common teenage rebellion?

    • @firepower7017
      @firepower7017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      They didn't have Animation and they've been firmly furries.
      Such sad times.

    • @lazzurroClaudio
      @lazzurroClaudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +310

      The only thing that is missing is loud music and long hair.

    • @Skeloperch
      @Skeloperch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      @Henryk Gödel Probably because they get sent out at 18 instead of in their 20's, and hardly anyone joins the army anymore.

    • @easley421
      @easley421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You seem like someone between those ages, must be your profile pic and name that leads me to think this.

    • @stadtbekanntertunichtgut
      @stadtbekanntertunichtgut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I was definitely mad! Not from 14 to 20's but close enough let's say from 17 to 22. Weird shit happend because I don't give zero fucks back than!

  • @gideonjones8088
    @gideonjones8088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3641

    "Here's an adorable letter about a little boy learning to talk written by his grandfather"
    *Reads letter* Aww
    "And here's a less adorable story about how Nero had his stepson murdered for playing general and emperor"
    Nero what the hell man?!

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +290

      When talking about the mad emperors, always remember that historical sources are not reliable ^^
      Nero was not very loved when he ruled, and the thing Romans loved the most about history was to invent bad stories about the men they don't like, especially politicians. Kinda like a social network today, throw some gossips on a person, and let him justifying about things he never did XD
      But, they do that with history too, because history was not considered a science that had to record exact things, it is considered like a tool to use for politicians. If you add to this that Nero was one of the first emperors to persecute christians and that we see roman emperors mostly through a christian historiography, Nero was most certainly darken a lot ^^

    • @khatack
      @khatack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@krankarvolund7771 Nero also fucked up the empire quite a bit, there's absolutely no question that he wasn't a very good emperor.

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@khatack How exactly did he fucked up the Empire? ^^'
      According to Guy Achard and Claude Aziza, two historians of the ancient Rome, Nero was at contrary a pretty decent emperor, his campaigns were victorious, the economy was rising due to a good adminsitration and monetary policy, he even make the peace with the parthians ^^
      When he died, he was so popular in the plebs that rumors of his return were heard in Rome, despite the damnatio memoriae, like a sort of Messiah (which is surely related with the rising of the christianism).
      Yes, he was not kind with the Senate, because he had to fight two conspiracies, but he was not a bad Emperor, just an Emperor who was not liked by the Patricians of Rome ^^
      And, weirdly enough, Suetone and Tacitus, our two main sources on Nero who relate all kind of horrors about him related that 40 years later, and were Patricians ^^

    • @KLanio-lr8yv
      @KLanio-lr8yv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@krankarvolund7771 the first years yes... In the end..

    • @krankarvolund7771
      @krankarvolund7771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@KLanio-lr8yv Well, in the end, except for the quarells with the Senate and the big conspiracy against him, things continue to shine.
      It's after Nero's death that it became complicated with the Four Emperor's year ^^

  • @emilygarbonzo8390
    @emilygarbonzo8390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9307

    Imagine carrying a baby for 9 months, and then having your husband be like "Nah, I don't want it"

    • @wirroam
      @wirroam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Lol

    • @LuisMorales-gw2fu
      @LuisMorales-gw2fu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      I now right

    • @ricky-sanchez
      @ricky-sanchez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +767

      Probably the leading cause of women dying from child birth. How many children can a woman have before she either dies or has a boy? This weird practice is still in use today.

    • @skavanagh2778
      @skavanagh2778 4 ปีที่แล้ว +267

      @@bethnichols4662 I doubt you would have much of a choice lol

    • @RomanBraixen
      @RomanBraixen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      scraggle and the 27 Beth is trying to instill our modern day morality on people from 2.000 years ago

  • @rachel_sj
    @rachel_sj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5330

    Ah Puberty: The Madness that Affects all Youths until their 20s

    • @Skeloperch
      @Skeloperch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      People start going through puberty a lot earlier nowadays. It's a weird phenomenon that I don't recall ever finding out the true cause of. Probably better nutrition plus messed up hormones from excess estrogen, progestin, etc.
      For example, women started going through puberty around 14 - 16 back in the 1800's. Nowadays, women are pretty much fully grown by 16, excepting a couple of stragglers.

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@JRWall-hf9mq this is false, we eat mainly male meat. Female cattle is mainly used for milk production.

    • @thekoalakingdomshow6319
      @thekoalakingdomshow6319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@rachel_sj females have always developed quicker. I believe puberty seems earlier because our bodies have more energy due to more nutrition

    • @coleball6001
      @coleball6001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      J H actually more of our chicken meat are male as males are almost useless for the egg industry is there are killed for their meat.

    • @khatack
      @khatack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@thekoalakingdomshow6319 True. In fact, the estrogen we get from food comes mainly from dairy products and from plant-based estrogens, such as from soy.

  • @MrGhjkl63
    @MrGhjkl63 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4914

    “They were also infected by some sort of madness which they recovered in their early 20s”
    Uuuh

    • @ilikedota5
      @ilikedota5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      where have i heard that?

    • @johnc.3014
      @johnc.3014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      wait what? please explain

    • @johnc.3014
      @johnc.3014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      nvm i read a comment just down here

    • @nicetomeetyou3362
      @nicetomeetyou3362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +461

      So that's what puberty was called back then 🤣

    • @behindthemirror2215
      @behindthemirror2215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wait what is this anyway

  • @irongeneral7861
    @irongeneral7861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2595

    "Riding broomsticks" was an activity that the great Harrius Potternum very much enjoyed as a young boy.

    • @mijaumijau916
      @mijaumijau916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      HAHAHAHAHA

    • @disneybounddolls6421
      @disneybounddolls6421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      😂 best comment ever

    • @Dany94256
      @Dany94256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Arrius Vasaius
      (Potter can be translated in vasaio, pot-maker, in Italian. Being a language born from latin, there is that)

    • @labcreation1216
      @labcreation1216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣

    • @hoihoi4453
      @hoihoi4453 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hahahahaha haha good one

  • @kottonkandy0962
    @kottonkandy0962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5627

    Imagine you just tryna buy some bread at the market and suddenly you get whipped by a naked dude running down the streets

    • @spooder_jockey
      @spooder_jockey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +717

      Sounds like a typical day in LA

    • @Sara-sn5gd
      @Sara-sn5gd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      So, collage?

    • @dragonsword7370
      @dragonsword7370 5 ปีที่แล้ว +287

      Sounds like a pride parade got a Little crazy passing a farmer's market.

    • @zeriyx
      @zeriyx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      we all have our kinks

    • @ee8546
      @ee8546 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Sounds like Flordia to me

  • @Kiu_8
    @Kiu_8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2099

    Concerning the bulla, girls wore an equivalent of it: the lunula, it was a crescent moon shaped pendant worn as an apotropaic amulet, until the eve of their marriage, it was then removed along with other things.

    • @HighAdmiral
      @HighAdmiral 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Source?

    • @BreakCards
      @BreakCards 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sebastián soube please :)

    • @yoshilorak5897
      @yoshilorak5897 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Other things😏

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yoshilorak5897 I saw that too 😈

    • @Davinc125
      @Davinc125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sebastián h

  • @tyrian_baal
    @tyrian_baal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6195

    Rome: You kill infants for sacrifice!
    Carthage: You leave them out on the streets to die if you don't like them
    Sparta: *_n o o b s_*

    • @someonerandom4660
      @someonerandom4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Yellow Panzer
      I laughed too hard at this

    • @darkdemons8434
      @darkdemons8434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      explain

    • @kingrichardiii6280
      @kingrichardiii6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      Rome responding to Carthage: NO! Someone may adopt them... and sell the into slavery.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +491

      @@darkdemons8434
      The Spartans threw the weak ones off a cliff.

    • @darkdemons8434
      @darkdemons8434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Lilliath holy shit

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3307

    I wonder how the mothers felt about newborn abandonment. Very interesting to learn the mindset of the Roman woman in regards to not only childbirth but everyday life.

    • @Pfsif
      @Pfsif 5 ปีที่แล้ว +260

      Shit, ever hear of abortion?

    • @stephenkevindoss1474
      @stephenkevindoss1474 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Pfsif damn that was good

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Pfsif well hell yeah! 🤣

    • @totalwartimelapses6359
      @totalwartimelapses6359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +619

      @@Pfsif
      Kinda different though, leaving a child alone in the street without protection without anything? Basically a high chance of him living a slowly painful, hard life, probably as a slave
      Vastly different from what is at best a quick death

    • @comteroi9219
      @comteroi9219 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      There’s a lot of academic literature surrounding this topic.

  • @AndreaRodriguez-cj1kt
    @AndreaRodriguez-cj1kt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5765

    It’s genuinely so adorable that people would be proud that their wives made their clothes

    • @someonerandom4660
      @someonerandom4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Andrea Rodriguez sammmeeeee

    • @physe8052
      @physe8052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1725

      "Check out this brocade my dude! Guess who made it for me?"
      "(Sigh) Let me guess: your wife?"
      "DAMN RIGHT SHE DID! Best wife in Rome!"

    • @someonerandom4660
      @someonerandom4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +977

      Asher Flanagan
      *some dude slams his hand down on the table*
      “nO YOU SEE THIS FINE WOVEN CLOTH? CLEARLY MY WIFE IS THE BEST”

    • @thedolphinbro6668
      @thedolphinbro6668 5 ปีที่แล้ว +489

      *swordfight errupts*

    • @someonerandom4660
      @someonerandom4660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +626

      The Realist
      *the sound of cloth ripping*
      “YOU JUST TORE THE FINE CLOTH MY WIFE WOVE FOR ME”

  • @wargriffin5
    @wargriffin5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +566

    It always blew my mind that the infant/toddler mortality rate was so high, but people would regularly abandon their children after one look at the kid...

    • @Itried20takennames
      @Itried20takennames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well…most of that 50% child mortality was due to medical issues or infectious diseases (90%), not abandonment. Until about the 1900s, it was pretty standard that if you wanted 3 kids to reach adulthood, you needed to give birth to 6 and watch half die of illness (go to older cemeteries and you can see this). Vaccines stopped that, saved literal millions and somehow…we know largely hate them.

    • @wargriffin5
      @wargriffin5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@Itried20takennames Right, and then the senile village elder orders one of the healthy babies killed off because they thought they saw some defect in the child; that's the mind-boggling thing for me. The survival of your children is already a coin toss, why add to the odds of your whole community dying out because you discarded otherwise healthy newborns?

    • @420architecMindNDesign
      @420architecMindNDesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah fuck ugly babys am i right

    • @overdose8329
      @overdose8329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Itried20takennames That’s true but that also partly explains how people are weaker nowadays. Developing diseases and in poor health in old age as opposed to the older generations that had to survive childhood without modern medicine.

    • @kawadashogo8258
      @kawadashogo8258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Abandonment of infants probably wasn't actually all that common. When it did happen, it was most likely due to either extreme poverty and inability to take care of the kid, or the existence of some obvious deformity.

  • @patronofdragons
    @patronofdragons 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1762

    I love that the show Rome was able to provide so many pictures for this.

    • @Davinc125
      @Davinc125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patronofdragons b

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      And the legionnaire working with Octavian is actually true with military lines. They would hire a trusted officer to teach their sons to fight and to lead.

    • @sanityisrelative
      @sanityisrelative 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was coming down here to say that myself.

    • @artygunnar
      @artygunnar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Rome was my favorite HBO program, still is

    • @cayannap6752
      @cayannap6752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks. I'm scrolling the comments to find out what show or movie that was.

  • @aceofspades4930
    @aceofspades4930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3324

    It's terrifying how easily young teenagers were taken advantage of by older men. Neither the boys or girls were safe in that regard.

    • @Bristecom
      @Bristecom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      Did you miss the part where the guy was killed for it? It wasn't always lawless.

    • @jmitterii2
      @jmitterii2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +415

      @@Bristecom And the teen got was sentenced to death.
      Sounds like a pretty strict and harsh law. But it likely only applied to patricians.... Equites and plebs were somewhat up to their own devices on a lot of stuff with exception of contracts or other agreements made at the forum. Hence why there were mafia gangsters often backed by a set of patrician patrons.
      Oh, Italy, somethings never change.

    • @Bristecom
      @Bristecom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@jmitterii2 I'm sure it depended on the situation and didn't apply to actual "rape." Rome was the first to have a court system remember.

    • @trevorandthegunrunners4166
      @trevorandthegunrunners4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      The weak were taken advantage of by those in power. This was not limited to one gender or the other.

    • @czthjvv
      @czthjvv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Older women too

  • @spaghettiappletaterghost1009
    @spaghettiappletaterghost1009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    “Julia!” The father shouts.
    Julia I puts her head round the door “yeah dad?”
    Julia II does the same “yeah dad?”
    Julia III and IV come down the stairs “yeah dad?”
    Julia V puts her head through the wall “yeah dad?”
    Julia VI pops her head through the ceiling from her room “yeah dad?”
    Julia VII comes through the ceiling and lands in a split on the floor “yeah dad?”
    Julia VIII comes through a portal from hell “YEAH DAD?”
    At this point the Dad knew.
    He messed up.

    • @yourgodemperorofeverything1354
      @yourgodemperorofeverything1354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Then he beats all his doughters except Julia. He called her, not Julia II, III etc.

    • @thelanktheist2626
      @thelanktheist2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@yourgodemperorofeverything1354 Except Julia VIII. Considering she comes up from literal Hades, she must’ve died in toddlerhood, considering Julia I is still in the house.

    • @pinkbunny6272
      @pinkbunny6272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Julia, Julila, Julia Tertia etc.

    • @samavitt
      @samavitt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I shouldn't be laughing this hard.

    • @susanneyuk-pingpong8705
      @susanneyuk-pingpong8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Where's Julia IV, did she die in childbirth? My condolences to the mother.

  • @JumbalayahJihad
    @JumbalayahJihad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +816

    "Hot-headed and pliable; full of energy and passion, yet without the capability of real thinking."
    A perfect summary of most teenagers--even for today.

    • @cracklingvoice
      @cracklingvoice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Also makes them perfect candidates to be junior soldiers.

    • @randomlygeneratedname7171
      @randomlygeneratedname7171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@cracklingvoice Till the nerdy teenager focuses all that energy and passion enraged by his murdered adoptive father caeser. Then begins cunningly dispatching with all the elders who keep underestimating the kid. Then goes on to becomes the first Emperor of Rome by his 30s. Agustus was a mad lad. 😂

    • @stardrop5075
      @stardrop5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Full of energy and passion". Yeah, I just don't think so lmao.-
      13 y/o me.

    • @up-set1451
      @up-set1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cracklingvoice vietnam and afghanistan

  • @marveyjameselman6128
    @marveyjameselman6128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1603

    "Teenagers described as young men who are absolutely impetuous with desire."
    It really is fascinating that modern times is not so different from the ancient period. What only changed is tradition but not humanity.

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Roman kids were subjected to physical abuse for basically any reason, instilling the obedience to superiors necessary for a military life in becoming a soldier in those times. Obviously nowadays we know that physical abuse is one of the worst things you can do to a child.
      And these norms that we're told about in the video would probably only apply to the wealthier families, I doubt most poor Romans would recieve any education at all.

    • @Ixam13
      @Ixam13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If you shrink "humanity" down to biology, then yes not much has changed, though that approach would be rather preposterous.

    • @Ixam13
      @Ixam13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Ucallit 71 Telling, that humanity for you is nothing but technology and some ominous, esoteric 'human nature'. No mention of humans as social beings, allthough that should be obvious as its most essential part. Especially living in times, where pratically nothing we wear, use or consume is produced by ourselves but in an intricate social division of labour incorporating millions of people. People are composed of other people and produced by the respective social relations. Our whole individuality is constructed only in difference to one another. 10 people on 10 lonely islands are all the same, everyone has to take care of the same basic needs, but 10 people on one not-so-lonely island and people are able to specialise, to differentiate themselves. Individuality emerges. The defining aspects of human life are created socially. If you repeatedly beat your child senseless, then you shouldnt be surprised its puberty will be overly rebellious as soon it is able to break out of this violent structure. The biological constants in this reagrd are negligible and continue to lose importance as the human 'second nature' becomes more and more socially and consciously constructed. In this context, the recourse to a cristallised human nature is simply arbitrary and unfounded.

    • @Ixam13
      @Ixam13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ucallit 71 彻底批判地主资产阶级“人性论

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Ucallit 71 , please write your statements in proper paragraph structure. Or at lest edit your statement with the "enter" button on your key board to create fast paragraph. It will make your point clearer to troll. And I do thank you for chewing that left wing nut out.
      My mom German/ Russian, in short she was a mean woman and she would go on long rants and sound just like a Nazi/ USSR Cold War Era politician . Split lips were a by monthly thing in my family, some times I "really" provoked it. As a teenager we had "dog fights."
      In my late 20's I had to deal with out of towners from different parts of the States with the Hood mentality , who though they were All That. I slap a few of they senseless like my mom did to me more than a few times as a child/ young teen.
      The " Gangstas " found out after I made them look really stupid a few times in a row in front of their hommies. I was raised as mean as a WWII Nazi, and by the Klingon Code of Khaless , Hitler should have been killed for incompetence.
      in my world view, it is not child abuse to lightly slap them down till they are in a crying ball on the ground screaming life is unfair. It is all about " cause & effect." And when grandma punch us grandchildren we KNEW We were being more than mouthy.
      If you want to watch fiction on what it is to be a Man in life. Here are two tv series you can find the" best clips of" on youtube
      Gun Smoke
      The Riffleman
      Star Trek, TNG, and DS9.
      The writers and actors of these shows had show me some of the hardships a man has to face in their lives. When I face some of these hardships I was just sad.I sad was cause I knew what I was dealing with was real and not fiction. Some people are so dumb and hateful, the only way you can keep them from constantly coming at you is really slap them down hard, then twist their wrist out of joint.
      The best advice I can give you you is be polite, up beat, look for the best in things and people, and never trust anyone within arms' reach of yourself. If someone insults your virtue , firmly let them know you will not be walked on.
      This is coming from a 42 year old that has seen 35 years of b.s.
      Do not treat me like a retard cause I have a speech problem and I was never good at or care about sports.
      Have a nice day.

  • @twudotJam
    @twudotJam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    "It was not necessarily a death sentence"
    Me: :D
    "Slavers looked for them and would raise them into lives of slavery"
    Me: D:

    • @meilismeili4863
      @meilismeili4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well...the baby didn´t die, did it?

    • @bernik9131
      @bernik9131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@meilismeili4863 id rather die than live the rest of my life as a slave

    • @dontworryyoullbealright6949
      @dontworryyoullbealright6949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Your reaction matched your pfp lol

    • @timetravelingshark8811
      @timetravelingshark8811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      It wasn't always a tragic end for these poor children! There's a better outcome that didn't get mentioned (probably because it wasn't a major thing for a lot of Roman history) but oftentimes, Christians would rescue any infants that they found abandoned on the streets and raise them as their own within the faith! This pissed off a lot of the upper crusts of Rome because they saw it as allowing "unfit" children to live and supposedly drag down the Empire's gene pool or something. After Christianity was adopted by the wider empire under Constantine's rule there were laws passed that cracked down on this practice and afforded greater protection of the infants, recognizing them as human beings no matter if they were wanted or not. After this it became much more common for children to be dropped off at monasteries, or if still abandoned, rescued and then raised within a monastery. So a lot of them still got chances to live long, happy lives!

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok Werid

  • @brycenlanager1216
    @brycenlanager1216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2817

    The idea of Roman girls just being given a name and number is funny to me. They might have just called them Daughter 1, 2, and 3

    • @FishBoneD14
      @FishBoneD14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

      Brycen Lanager Daughter of their dad 1,2,3 but yeah it kind of that.

    • @BRoyce69
      @BRoyce69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      King George VI(or any other of the George's): surprised Pikachu face

    • @antyspi4466
      @antyspi4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      Well...they some kind of did for the sons. Quintus, Sextus, Decimus etc, are just numberings. The pool of male pronomen was really tiny, as the family mattered more than the individual.
      So yes, they did use numbers as names for their kids, but the family name had to be included.

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      If you understand Spanish or Latin, it should sound very familiar as these names like Secunda and Tretia are nouns that are of the female sense and would be exclusively given to females. This is true in modern day Spanish as it is known today.
      And now that I'm here, when I think about it, this new age politically correct form of non-binary gender politics among certain groups of people today would certainly not welcome the type of Spanish that I grew up with. Hundreds, thousands of books in early learning would have to be revised and, in a very idealistic way of a coming totalitarian utopia, be denied for teaching our young kids today.

    • @snekula5353
      @snekula5353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That's a very common practice in CK2

  • @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
    @Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1490

    Kids "playing law courts"? Sounds adorable.
    Kid 1- "The defendent is accused of being stinky and stealing my knuckle bones"
    Kid 2- "The prosecutor is biased and also has cooties. He should be recused"
    Dad stands nearby looking proud.

    • @axmoylotl
      @axmoylotl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Dad then procedes to violently beat both of them.

    • @ntpgmr
      @ntpgmr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Especially since appeals to the crowd and ad hominem were just as useful as evidence in Roman Courts.

    • @cookiediangelo8511
      @cookiediangelo8511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Reason they did this was because Roman courts were a form of entertainment. Lawyers were like celebrities back then.

    • @derth9230
      @derth9230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cookiediangelo8511 just like judges now are becoming tv celebrities

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok

  • @PauaP
    @PauaP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    I see even during Roman times, the older generation will always be ranting about the youth. Good to see that tradition is still alive and going.

    • @thegreenray4010
      @thegreenray4010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it just plays into the idea of decline over time more than anything. A descent from a golden age. Man did not evolve from an ape, rather he is turning into one.

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok

  • @mei.creates
    @mei.creates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    “the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” - what an important thing to remember when studying history, especially the history of women and children

  • @anthonyhutchins2300
    @anthonyhutchins2300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +845

    Honestly the word "madness" much better suits that period than "puberty" lol. It's amazing so many people survive that time especially boys... When you think you're invincible and youre fueled by testausterone a death wish is just good fun.

    • @lordblazer
      @lordblazer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      am I the only one that chilled the fuck out once I hit puberty?

    • @miserychickadee
      @miserychickadee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Most never fully outgrow it. Put most adults in the driver's seat of a sports car, give them a fancy credit card, or stick them in front of a political news site, and they turn into fucking lunatics.

    • @CarrotConsumer
      @CarrotConsumer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey guys, just popping in to remind you that 311 needs to be investigated.

    • @anthonyhutchins2300
      @anthonyhutchins2300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@miserychickadee that's a really good point! Haha

    • @anthonyhutchins2300
      @anthonyhutchins2300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lordblazer I went from being an angel to a lunatic haha but im 25 now and still have some maturing to do but it's night and day.

  • @justvibin1087
    @justvibin1087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +665

    Baby defect: exists
    Romans: *p e r i s h*

    • @Darthwgamer
      @Darthwgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      At least could live in Rome, ya maybe as a slave but then being thrown off a cliff, being left out in the wild, or etc.

    • @berno8535
      @berno8535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Meba Depends, most house slaves had it pretty decent, quite like hotel staff in modern day. Even had free days, where you could go and do whatever.
      Obviously labour slaves had a harder time though.

    • @dylanchouinard6141
      @dylanchouinard6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slavers: hippity hoppity this is now my property!

    • @yansilversea6780
      @yansilversea6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sparta approves

  • @brxnv_
    @brxnv_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    seeing ancient lives makes me happy that i'm in this generation really

    • @Darthwgamer
      @Darthwgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then we have girls and boys thinking suicide is best

    • @brxnv_
      @brxnv_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Darthwolfgamer 2020 well if you put it that way, we overcome living to fight and survive and now we have purposeless lives... it’s an improvement

    • @brxnv_
      @brxnv_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      menkrep1337 bot how about just appreciate your time given here?

    • @James-vm2cl
      @James-vm2cl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      menkrep1337 bot but you get to enjoy luxuries we have now.

    • @tarniabook3076
      @tarniabook3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Darthwgamer Fun fact: suicide was considered a noble and good way out in ancient Rome, so it wasn't any better.

  • @Danixo02
    @Danixo02 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1563

    “Abandonment was an extremely common practice in the Roman world”
    Ah I see where my dad got the idea of abandonment

    • @elleinda6278
      @elleinda6278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      D 😂😂😂

    • @xthylultynil2359
      @xthylultynil2359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same

    • @kodingkrusader2765
      @kodingkrusader2765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Romans. The original blacks

    • @RehabProjectSRCB
      @RehabProjectSRCB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kodingkrusader2765 really? Why go there.

    • @kodingkrusader2765
      @kodingkrusader2765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@RehabProjectSRCB whats wrong? Its just a joke so dark its dad never came home from the store.
      Im black relax no need to virtue signal my dude there is a serious problem in the black culture a couple of racist white dudes didnt create that problem

  • @sonicfan73887
    @sonicfan73887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    Imagine: “Good job on your test Julia!” “Julia 2... mmm not so much.” “Julia 3, are you studying?”

  • @justsomeguy3931
    @justsomeguy3931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    These "growing up" episodes are wonderful. Truly, the study of how children lived could be it's own historical field

  • @watchingthebees
    @watchingthebees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +544

    As a girl, I would much more prefer to be a farmer’s daughter than a noble one

    • @HeroHoundoom
      @HeroHoundoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      You'd better hope your crops don't fail

    • @kennymccormick8906
      @kennymccormick8906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sure do

    • @ramenbomberdeluxe4958
      @ramenbomberdeluxe4958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      You’re kinda screwed either way though. Due to the oppression of women that infected all of history, you still had no rights beyond the barest of the barest mundane crap that encourages gender roles anyway.

    • @420architecMindNDesign
      @420architecMindNDesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      aye I'm a guy and I would agree too much more honest life

    • @thegreenray4010
      @thegreenray4010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 a purposeful and balanced relationship between men and women is not oppression.

  • @Windona
    @Windona 5 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Ancient Rome: These boys between 14-22 are kinda adults but they're infected with madness and not ready to be responsible or run a household or anything. Let's make sure they have chaperons.
    Also ancient Rome: So these 15 year old women are fully ready to manage a household and be women carrying on the process of procreation!

    • @angelicgacha
      @angelicgacha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Still happens now days lmao

    • @overdose8329
      @overdose8329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      females mature earlier that’s just a fact

    • @tylerbhumphries
      @tylerbhumphries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@overdose8329 girls do not mature faster than boys, we’re often forced to do so by our society. This video is a good example of how boys are allowed to still indulge in childish endeavors while also having time to learn and grow into adulthood. While girls are forced to mature because (even in present day) we have to get ready for motherhood or taking on major roles in organizing households.

    • @overdose8329
      @overdose8329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylerbhumphries that’s just not true. Among ancient Egyptians it was not too uncommon for girls at the age of 4 to have their first period and most had it by age 7-9. Girls mature physically and reach puberty (so mature mentally/emotionally as a result) faster than males on average. You need to go back to primary school science class

    • @tylerbhumphries
      @tylerbhumphries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@overdose8329 I thought a lot about your comment but couldn’t reply because I was at work and quit frankly, you disgust me. Your first statement was ignorant, not in a bad way, just in a “I’ve heard this before therefore I’m going to repeat it” we all do stuff like that. But your second comment made me realize you can’t be trusted around kids. Ever. I fear for any child that’s around you if you truly feel that just because a girl can menstruated she has reach full adult level maturity. And even if menstruation meant the body had hit adult level maturity, which it doesn’t, maturity has nothing to do with the body and everything to do with the brain. And both men and women’s brains stop developing in their mid 20s. Further development can happen as you learn new skills such as learning new languages or oddly enough, becoming a cab driver because you tend to remember in detail different routes and it changes the way your brain looks on MRIs. The average age of menstruation is 12 although it is standard for girls between 10 and 15 to start. Anyone outside of that range is an outlier and should not be counted as the norm or even as the somewhat normal. I was one of those girls. I started menstruating at 7 and yes, my body did start to develop but if I posted a picture of 7 year old me and 26 year old me, you would be able to see that my 7 year old body looks nothing like my 26 year old body. And in theory, yes, I could have had a kid at 7 but I most likely would have had a lot of issues with the pregnancy because my body was not fully developed and my birthing canal was still too soft/fragile to push another human out. You need to go back and take some basic anatomy classes, a human development class, a class about puberty and what it means for the human body and most certainly stay away from playgrounds, schools, and anywhere else children tend to congregate because you’re the type of person that made my father cover me in baggie clothing when I was 7. Wtf dude.

  • @JackieWelles
    @JackieWelles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    So amazing that we call Teachers pedagogs in many languages even at this day...

    • @antyspi4466
      @antyspi4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Originally, the term Paidagogos (child companion) is Greek and was used for slaves that accompanied the offspring of upper class families on their way to school and back.

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @wearealltubes Yes useful skills in bringing up a militaristic society, not so great for bringing up people who won't go into professions that revolve around killing.

    • @МаксимГригорьев-ъ7ф
      @МаксимГригорьев-ъ7ф 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @wearealltubes Not every person can fit such a mold. And not every part of the society needs to be shaped that way.
      Current education systems are in no way perfect, but neither was the one of the Ancient Romans. As it was stated in the video - Pedagogus had a lot of power over his underlings.
      Now immagine that said Pedagogus has a set list of prejudices, that lead to him just punushing the child at any "problematic" topic instead of bothering himself with explaination. What will such a kid learn in their life? Just to parrot what their teacher said. Not to think for themself, but desperately cling on to something someone told them many years ago and then forced to accept with physical threat.
      I do believe, that's not something you meant with your original message. But you should also remember that there is 2 sides for every coin.

    • @thebrocialist8300
      @thebrocialist8300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      wearealltubes They were salves - often Greek. In comparative terms, they lived far more sedentary lives than your average Roman. As for violence, that was something your average human was far more accustomed to during that historical epoch in any context. Crime and violent conflict was an accepted part of most people’s (including much of the elite) lives.

    • @PatriceBoivin
      @PatriceBoivin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@wearealltubes Up to the 1800s rich families might hire a tutor for their son; they used to be taught that way but usually the tutor would take them places, travel to different locations to broaden their experience. Some took their charge abroad for a few weeks and returned, esp. when the son was older. Rich people today sometimes do this I expect; they wouldn't want their kids to go to a public school system, or even a private school: That would be for upper middle class yuppie types or below. I imagine the ideal would be to find a tutor of great character first and foremost; the rest would follow naturally from being righteous and upright. At least that would be the idea. But many busy wealthy tycoons may actually be narcissistic (self-centered) sociopaths who see their wife, mistresses and children as mere appendages. It was the same in Roman times. Herod "the Great" (an Idumaean Arab working for the Romans and trying hard to fit in as a Roman) killed his wives and almost all his own children. Thankfully he died a horrible death in his own bed.

  • @jacobcantrell82
    @jacobcantrell82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +931

    It would be amazing to see this for the later Byzantine Era to see how much changed.

    • @noelebbert9322
      @noelebbert9322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      women were in the kitchen making sandwiches i'm pretty sure.

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be different

    • @khatack
      @khatack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I second the motion for growing up in Byzantine Rome.

    • @cyrilchui2811
      @cyrilchui2811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      AND, period of fallen Western Roman Empire i.e. under Barbarian rules, whether "conquered" Italian changed their life style due to foreign influence.

    • @paokarasre
      @paokarasre 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I mean we are talking about over 1000 years later. Do you think our way of life would be the same at 3000 AD?

  • @carolkoski4875
    @carolkoski4875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I love how the children’s games were the same despite the social class
    It shows a lot

  • @WhiffleWaffles
    @WhiffleWaffles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    I was told that it was a common belief that if a daughter was born, it was because the man was passionate during conceiving, and vice versa for the birth of a son.

    • @connorgolden4
      @connorgolden4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Do you mean that the wife was passionate if a son was born? I’m confused.

    • @borealsullivan5486
      @borealsullivan5486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@connorgolden4 He means that ancient romans believed, that if a man was playful and passionate during sex, leading to conceiving, a girl was born. And opposite for a case when a boy was born.

    • @alwaysbored47
      @alwaysbored47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@borealsullivan5486 an opposite could mean that a wife was passionate or that the man wasn't passionate for the birth of a son. Which one are you referring to?

    • @borealsullivan5486
      @borealsullivan5486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@alwaysbored47 I refer to when the case with male passion (or lack of it)

    • @alwaysbored47
      @alwaysbored47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@borealsullivan5486 Okay! Thanks!

  • @JohnJohnson-jr6hp
    @JohnJohnson-jr6hp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    You say the toga praetexta , with the purple border, was worn by youths. All youths, or just particularly rich ones? I was under the understanding purple was exceedingly expensive, or is that just the particular shade of purple worn by leaders?

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Tyrian purple, made with sea snails, was incredibly expensive, but it was not like Romans didn't know how to mix red and blue to make a substitute. It was only less bright.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Purple is associated with royalty exactly because it's historically hard to make purple dye.

    • @theresahall8206
      @theresahall8206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Probably anyone who wasn't a slave.

    • @tankermottind
      @tankermottind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Most boys who wore the toga praetexta were at least fairly well off, as they were full Roman citizens. Slaves, peregrini, etc. were forbidden to wear any toga and did not enjoy the legal protection that the toga praetexta signified. The idea that society had a duty to protect children did not apply to all children, or even most children, in ancient Rome. The toga praetexta was a marker of which kids were considered worthy of protection, and which kids had to fend for themselves. The purple band advertised that Roman authority would come down on whoever harmed the child (unless it's the paterfamilias or under the paterfamilias' direction, in which case tough shit, kid).

  • @bridgetmcallister5829
    @bridgetmcallister5829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    I'd love a video about growing up in ancient Egypt!

    • @greencyy
      @greencyy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YES

    • @Dmartinez117
      @Dmartinez117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I second this as well!

    • @Metztii
      @Metztii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Old kingdom, middle kingdom, or new kingdom?

    • @thealgerian3285
      @thealgerian3285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Metztii Yes.

    • @DH-jy9tr
      @DH-jy9tr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Metztii gotta go with old.

  • @Jrlomay
    @Jrlomay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    How they did it: Growing up in medieval england?
    Edit: just to avoid the 100 years war, the plague, and the end of the medieval warm period, let's do 13th century

    • @GoErikTheRed
      @GoErikTheRed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      So far every video in this series has been about ancient Rome. From pet dogs to naming babies to paying taxes.

    • @charlottegrace6656
      @charlottegrace6656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoErikTheRed The people need a branching out man

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@GoErikTheRed I did an episode on Growing Up Aztec and do plan on covering other civilizations

    • @lartinmuther2790
      @lartinmuther2790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Plot twist: you don't

    • @terminator572
      @terminator572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lartinmuther2790 plot twist: you die by Sarracen hands.

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1993

    I absolutely loved making this video and hope you enjoyed this grounds eye view of daily life in the past. I wanted to give a shout out to Ancient History magazine which inspired me to do this episode and provided much of the resources for its production. I highly, highly recommend checking them. If you want to subscribe to the magazine and receive digital issues right when they come out, I'd ask that you use my affiliate link with the 25% off code INVICTA23_0819: www.karwansaraypublishers.com/landing/ancient_history_invicta

    • @cezariusus7595
      @cezariusus7595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I live in Romania, usually you have 3 names family name-second-first name. Apparently it's a tradition to keep the second name Constantin. What are the chances of being part of a roman lineage?

    • @TheBlacGhost2093
      @TheBlacGhost2093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can you make a video about the Colosseum and the Gladiators and Gladiator types.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cezariusus7595 Oh wow thats pretty cool and does seem to have some similarities. Romania was at one point Roman and definitely was next to the empire for a long time so maybe that is the source

    • @Insectoid_
      @Insectoid_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like the images from the series Rome. That was a superb series. :)

    • @springheeledjackofthegurdi2117
      @springheeledjackofthegurdi2117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      please do more of these videos, their the most useful and insightful on ancient cultures, have you thought of doing one on the Celts or the Norse Vikingrs?

  • @AyubuKK
    @AyubuKK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Living in the city of Rome itself sounds like it wasn’t too different from modern life. Crazy, and confusing.

    • @aaleyah3082
      @aaleyah3082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @I HATE TOUCANS Ancient Rome was cleaner than most of Medieval Europe,

    • @19Pyrus70
      @19Pyrus70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder about that. Rome was filled with mostly wooden buildings & only the rich could afford having running water piped directly to their homes from the aquaducts.

    • @fede98k54
      @fede98k54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aaleyah3082 Far from the truth - we know by Roman authors that by the time of Augustus for example Rome was so polluted that the Tiver river was undrinkable. In contrast medieval cities were much less overpopulated.

    • @ElNiNjA246
      @ElNiNjA246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fede98k54 would of smelt like shit and piss 24/7. no plumbing

    • @marseldagistani1989
      @marseldagistani1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElNiNjA246 like King's Landing from game of thrones?

  • @Fhoer
    @Fhoer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Just an addendum:
    at 20:18, the whip didn't really hurt as it was not made to do so.
    It was for a cerimonial/ritualistic use and there is some sources that indicate the woman flocked on the streets blocking the way to get the "blashing".
    I know, Romans are nuts.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      thanks for the additional context : )

    • @mateus1939
      @mateus1939 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fhoer aqui

    • @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai
      @ProfessorSyndicateFranklai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wait till you see what Saturnalia's like.
      Io Saturnalia!

    • @WAJK2030
      @WAJK2030 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well... European woman didn’t change much in regard of getting whipped once in a while. :))

    • @WendysFries
      @WendysFries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Another youtuber labled the whole ritual as "stupid fun"

  • @Nvaehlo
    @Nvaehlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    "Kids were punished for being too quiet."
    *chuckles*
    I'm in danger.

    • @zombienano9771
      @zombienano9771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      u stole this

    • @Nvaehlo
      @Nvaehlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zombienano9771 I made this comment before I looked at the others.

    • @zombienano9771
      @zombienano9771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that’s what they all say

    • @Nvaehlo
      @Nvaehlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zombienano9771 I'm serious. But you don't have to believe me.

    • @hellworm
      @hellworm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, shit...

  • @corinadarie6658
    @corinadarie6658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That letter from the grandfather about his grandson is really cute and shows love💖

  • @seraaron
    @seraaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This video taught me that HBOs Rome was surprisingly accurate when it comes to its portrayal of daily Roman life

  • @Rodrigator6
    @Rodrigator6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Recognized Beverly's beautiful art style the second I saw the kind smiles she draws.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Glad you recognized her work! Its been a fantastic fit for the series

    • @maryumgardner5958
      @maryumgardner5958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the art style too :)

  • @alphaz4741
    @alphaz4741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Physical beating was just seen as the way of things in Roman times, emotional beating is just seen as the way of things in these times.

  • @napolien1310
    @napolien1310 5 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    "How they did it"
    Thank you so much and plz keep them coming

    • @Davinc125
      @Davinc125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      napolien 1 h

  • @antyspi4466
    @antyspi4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When it comes to children´s toys, you really got to see these Roman toy houses with little tools. Sometimes, they even bear little inscriptions like "For me!"
    Really cute!

  • @catdogman23
    @catdogman23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Well the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, it certainly limits discussion of a topic." Love this

  • @decus9544
    @decus9544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Surely only the wealthy could have wore the Toga Praetexta on account of the cost of purple? Also that Bulla seems quite pricey as well, it would be interesting to see if the lower orders used Silver, Bronze, Copper or even Wooden ones depending on their status.

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I think the naming system only really applies to citizens/mostly the aristocrats so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this only applied to the nobility

    • @dingbum8618
      @dingbum8618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @Alt-Centrist NeoBuddhist-AnarchoBonapartist
      You're right. It is the knowledge of the of the nobility's Livestyle only that the Historians and Poets have preserved for today. The daily Lives of large parts of the Population lie in shadow for us.

    • @Azumazini
      @Azumazini 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The issue is, Lavender purple was expensive due to the crushed shells it was made from in the Med. Rome had a method of making another Violet/purple by mixture of Indigo and Iron Oxide, and due to the washing techniques it usually faded quickly making for a very light purple color over time. Below is a picture showing what that pigment looks like. imgur.com/ctpdLLC

    • @antyspi4466
      @antyspi4466 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The question is also, how often a toga was worn in daily life, as it severely restricted movement. Members of the upper classes could surely wear them on a daily basis, but craftsmen and farmers wore it certainly only on special occasions (and could hand it down through generations) and poor romens probably never owned one.

    • @Mankorra_Gomorrah
      @Mankorra_Gomorrah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well the vast majority of accounts are written by wealthy aristocrats with other wealthy aristocrats being the target audience. We know far less about the commoners in almost all ancient societies than we do about the kings and nobles.

  • @spiralinguniverse8159
    @spiralinguniverse8159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how the children and older people were supported . In those communities, fed, raised and taught.

  • @mauricebarnett6107
    @mauricebarnett6107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This shook a memory loose for me! Does anyone else over 40 remember an old Hanna Barbera cartoon called The Roman Holidays? Basically The Flintstones in ancient Rome.

  • @AlbertM170
    @AlbertM170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I talk with my best friend for half an hour.
    Immediately she hangs up, I find a notification from Invicta.
    Can this night honestly get any better?

    • @khatack
      @khatack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Considering that your "best friend" is female, seems to me like your night couldn't possibly get much worse.

    • @seannolan9857
      @seannolan9857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Saying "she" hung up was a bit of a giveaway.

    • @AlbertM170
      @AlbertM170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khatack you can say that again!!!! 😁😁🔥🔥

    • @AlbertM170
      @AlbertM170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seannolan9857 a completely intentional giveaway 😁😁

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@khatack that totally depends on the topics of conversation and nature of their relationship ;)

  • @Ragatokk
    @Ragatokk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    We need: How They Did It - Growing Up Norse!

    • @Erg893
      @Erg893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Born in dirt
      Grew up in dirt
      Died in dirt
      Case closed!

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Erg893 Burninate the Countryside! :D

    • @welcometothemilkhotel4802
      @welcometothemilkhotel4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ragatokk drinking the blood of their enemies!

    • @illerac84
      @illerac84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Unless they went viking, they're a peasant's life in snow.

    • @PkMnNeWb
      @PkMnNeWb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Comparing what I know about how growing up in viking age Scandinavia with what I learned from this video about Rome, then I think I would prefer growing up Norse. Seems like a bit of a mentally healthier upbringing with more agency and freedom with usually closer relationships with their parents, until they leave to work for a different family.

  • @TheDeadGachatuber
    @TheDeadGachatuber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I don’t know why but a baby on the floor and a dude looking at sounds funny

    • @kingrichardiii6280
      @kingrichardiii6280 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Sounds like a Monty python skit:
      Paternus: Honey, I am back from campaign in Hispania... **finds baby on the floor** what is this thing on the floor?
      Wet nurse: It is your son!
      Paternus: you sure?
      Wife:Yes.
      Paternus; why is it on the floor?
      Wet nurse: We need you to look at it!
      Paternus: Oh, OK. **goes to the baby and picks it up** It looks funny, is it OK?
      wet nurse: HE HAS ACCEPTED IT INTO THE FAMILY!
      Paternus: wait what?

    • @andreacarpenter8824
      @andreacarpenter8824 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kingrichardiii6280 😂😂😂!

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It’s always a good day when Invicta uploads a video.

  • @kiwichan5438
    @kiwichan5438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    HOLD UP A Sacrifice OF ALL OF YOUR TOYS 🧸
    Oh hell no
    There goes toy story then

    • @Kriosaivak
      @Kriosaivak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      “I’m sorry Andy. You must give Woody over to Jupiter.”

    • @essymessy2534
      @essymessy2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Google says Andy was 8 in the first movie soo..

    • @kennymccormick8906
      @kennymccormick8906 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does Toy Story have to do with anything?

  • @alienlee7793
    @alienlee7793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    16:47 Funfact: The woman in the left is Sappho, a lesbian woman and writer. The women sourrounding her are her followers, while a man plays an instrument on the far right.

    • @MogofWar
      @MogofWar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sappho wasn't a lesbian, she was a Lesbian, as in her homeland was Lesbos. Her orientation was most likely bisexual.

    • @alienlee7793
      @alienlee7793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MogofWar I meant lesbian as in the island (lesbos?) but now that I reread it does sound like I meant orientation
      edit: Yep, Lesbos as you said.

    • @MogofWar
      @MogofWar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh! I know! I was just being a grammar NAZI about capitalization.

  • @DDIoop
    @DDIoop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "Oh my what clothes are you wearing? Is that Gucci?"
    "Nope its from my 𝒞𝒪𝒪𝒞𝐻𝐼𝐸"

    • @sarahmulgund
      @sarahmulgund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hate y'all istg-

  • @animequeen78
    @animequeen78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like how this guy acknowledged the lack of information on lower classes and women.

  • @harizotoh7
    @harizotoh7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    Wait, they really named girls Julia 1 and 2? So you were like called 2?

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      They were called "First" "Second" ..."Tenth", not 1,2 or 10

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@cv4809
      That's...pretty much the same thing. A number isn't a very good distinct identifier.
      Imagine if your brothers got to be Junior and Backup Junior while you and your sisters were Surname First, Surname Second.
      "Second took my doll!"
      "Pass the olives Fourthie."
      Seems like it would get confusing real quick, especially if you spent a lot of time with cousins.

    • @revinaque1342
      @revinaque1342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@BonaparteBardithion That was just their official name. Each child usually had a nickname within the family, often a diminutive of their official name. For example, the first Julia would be called Julia, Julia Secunda could be called Julilla, and Julia Tertia could be called Julianna. Or some other little nickname as the parents saw fit.

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@revinaque1342
      They would have to get awful creative with nicknames after a while. 😁

    • @mfaizsyahmi
      @mfaizsyahmi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Mambo #5

  • @synthraofficial5366
    @synthraofficial5366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Imagine going through not only that hellish pregnancy but the hellish birth process especially with the mortality rates and then your husband just going "nah I don't think so." Just wow.

  • @heraturcoaz5131
    @heraturcoaz5131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    14-20 the period in which the teenagers were infected with some short of madness?..
    Teenagers frightened the Ancient Rome. lol

    • @ricky-sanchez
      @ricky-sanchez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm pretty sure most teenagers were scared of ancient Rome, so they started stealing. This was a great way to get forced into the military at the time.

    • @Monika-mb6jh
      @Monika-mb6jh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      “They say oh teenagers scare the living sh- out of me!” Myon Chemicalia Romancia

  • @adrivoid5376
    @adrivoid5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I know a Grecian ritual and celebration for a girl's coming of age continued into Roman time in Southern Italy. The girls would go and complete rituals in the caves to Persephone- who was highly seen as a goddess of fertility and growth

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Southern Italy kept a lot of its greek culture even throughout the middle ages and modern tines. There are still villages in southern Italy where old people speak a diskect based on greek.

  • @c-money9623
    @c-money9623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love these videos! As a anthropology major I find the lives of those in the past fascinating.

  • @ieatdust8666
    @ieatdust8666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The drawing of Daphnis and Chloe with the dog is so adorable.

  • @moonberuang
    @moonberuang 5 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    doesn't sound like fun being a child during that time

    • @Darthwgamer
      @Darthwgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @menkrep1337 bot That doesn't help the fact that you get whippied for every little thing, plus might die cause of family leader being like nah.

    • @kennymccormick8906
      @kennymccormick8906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @menkrep1337 bot reddit moment

  • @theunstablewoki6022
    @theunstablewoki6022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Imagine knowing your baby has a 50/50 to survive, AND THEN KNOWING THAT YOUR HUSBAND MIGHT NOT EVEN ACCEPT THEM 😭😭😭

    • @dlarge6502
      @dlarge6502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They tried not to be to connected to babies because of that. Too much emotional investment at an early age is too risky due to the high infant mortality.

  • @corn1678
    @corn1678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did anyone else keep pausing the video to admire the art? Cause I loved it.

  • @rosekat6444
    @rosekat6444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Me: *has a history presentation due in literally less than 8 hours *
    Brain: _hEy do you want to watch this video of how people grew up in Ancient Rome????_
    Also me: _sURe WHY nOT-_

    • @alejandroredpine
      @alejandroredpine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did it go?

    • @rosekat6444
      @rosekat6444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandroredpine Not too bad, the sleep deprivation caused most of it to be wiped from my mind and I also know I suck at presentations, so I think it went alright

  • @zhshsG7
    @zhshsG7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow, man your content is reaching a whole new level. I'm tired of seeing history channels covering merely a campaign or the same few battles while ignoring the entire civilisation behind history. I am anxiously looking forward to your content, and I would love to see other a "growing up" episode on medieval Europe/Rome as well :) Keep it up!

  • @ChelseaH1
    @ChelseaH1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Kids these days are so lucky. I wish I had my hands on something like this with all the research papers I had to do. Thank you for making history interesting!!

  • @heychrisfox
    @heychrisfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is absolutely my favourite of all your cities. I learn so much from history videos like the ones you make, but there is something distinctly special about learning about childhood from different cultures throughout history, as it's something that's almost NEVER discussed without doing deep-dives into a topic.

  • @michellesimmons2756
    @michellesimmons2756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    It's so funny that teenagers have not changed

  • @blaisetelfer8499
    @blaisetelfer8499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "A virtually impossible task, but a popular plot point in dramas" Damn, some things never change

  • @romaerb4161
    @romaerb4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roman culture and history is such a perfect hindsight in visions and lessons of things that worked for a blended society. These are wonderful educational information to enhance and/or ignite more study/curiosity. Thank you!

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula 5 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    If life keeps a Roman down. Call on more Romans.

  • @Paguo
    @Paguo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so good. Often we see the ancient world almost as an allien place and time but this makes us realize we had roughly the same infancy

  • @kordeliiius9821
    @kordeliiius9821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Japanese had something similar when it came to naming sons. Jirou, Saburou, and Shirou mean second son, third son, and fourth son respectively, and often have a suffix like -ta or -maru tacked on.

  • @alta3621
    @alta3621 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The deity of “Bringing newborns to the Earth” is Ops. I read that as Oops and nearly died laughing

    • @RaimoHöft
      @RaimoHöft 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds right... 😂😂😂😈😈😈😋😋😋

  • @mladen7641
    @mladen7641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    When the Paterfamilias doesn't like the child: Out of the womb, into the tomb!

  • @v44n7
    @v44n7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks Invicta for all this humanity size of view from history!

  • @VentiVonOsterreich
    @VentiVonOsterreich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:44 make believe as senators
    Damn how I can relate my childhood with people over 2000 years ago

  • @prettypic444
    @prettypic444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the idea of petagagouses taking their charge to the bakery if they did well in school- reminds me of my mom taking me to go get a cinnamon roll or making brownies if I did well on an important test

  • @FINNIUSORION
    @FINNIUSORION 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The weather and seasons would absolutely have an impact on the developing fetus. Stress on the mother coupled with lower crop yields could easily make the difference between the baby making it or not.

  • @NathanielHarari
    @NathanielHarari 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Excellent video as usual. But all I can think of is:
    1) You need to include some shots from "I, Claudius" as well and
    2) It's really about time somebody made a third series as good as "I, Cladius" and "Rome". Two major epic series just isn't enough, in my view.

    • @illerac84
      @illerac84 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      HBO Rome movie to close the story. Just make it better than that Deadwood pile of dung.

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oo

  • @عماراحمد-ق7ن
    @عماراحمد-ق7ن 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for creating such an immersive ancient history documentary. It’s refreshing to see complex historical events explained so clearly and vividly.

  • @hankwilliams150
    @hankwilliams150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of the more beautifully shot and informative/interesting videos I have ever seen. Great job!

  • @MrApontjos
    @MrApontjos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I definitely want to see how this changed in the late Western Roman and Byzantine-Roman eras

  • @boratrules1641
    @boratrules1641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learned more about Rome from this video than all classes and courses I have ever taken

  • @alexanderjakubsen2198
    @alexanderjakubsen2198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man am I glad I was born into this time and place. Still a fascinating video that I am sure to spend a lot of time thinking about in the coming days and weeks.

  • @LukaLopesPonciano
    @LukaLopesPonciano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I would love to know more about Roman dressing and fashion and how certain things wore viewed by Roman society. Like it you woer certain colors and what to wear in a certain occasion. How romans viewed beared and long hair in males

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Romans viewed bearded long haired men as barbarian

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LegoGuy87 oh really I didn't know that, sounds interesting. So I assume that Barbaric lifestyle seems to have gained more virtue in later Roman times. Roman aristocratic women loved wigs of red and blonde haired women

    • @maxx1014
      @maxx1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @LegoGuy87
      Yes western Roman emperors were at this time a joke anyways

    • @andreacarpenter8824
      @andreacarpenter8824 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxx1014 "barbarian" means "bearded one"

  • @beeurd
    @beeurd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most interesting thing about this is not how different things were, but how many similarities have transcended the generations.

  • @JesusRocksTryPrayin
    @JesusRocksTryPrayin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was truly excellent. Watching this was a dream, I linked it to several people. I'll watch it again :D I love this series so much. it's a trip