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oh THAT's why it felt like i watched this before. good video tho. Also, wasn't mentioned in the video, but i heard somewhere that egg whites where also used to spike up hair.
@@AudibleFist They aren't clear, but I removed the Hasan thing because they specifically mentioned incitement of violence, aka promoting violence towards an individual.
I was not there myself, but have done a lot of research. It is always so corny when movies set in the late 70s have everyone on the street dressed like stereotypical punks. Really the music and freedom of expression was the key from the start. I have always felt that the biggest aspect of punk is being your true self, whether that is crazy fashion statements or casual shorts and a t shirt. A great movie set in that era is the Joy Division biopic Control, I am usually not a fan of biopics but this one was done well. The clothing people wear is also more realistic to the reality of the times.
I could never grasp the idea that there is a certain 'punk style' or fashion. I thought the whole point is to be non-conformist and individualistic. And looking at some punks today or even twenty years back they kinda look like they're trying to imitate something they have seen and thus some kind of punk-ish uniformity emerges. Which of course, defeats the whole point 🤔
ding ding ding lol. i ve always loved being from DC because that over the top style was never super prominent. Almost everyone just threw on jeans and a t shirt and rolled out the door. i cant imagine taking anymore than five minutes to do my hair lmao
idk if it's a conformity thing, even if it's common in punk the majority of people don't have dyed mohwaks or wear battle jackets, a lot of punks probably just like the look
@@UGLY-MONEY17 It was the same thing in Boston, at least by the time I came up. Although there was a lot more hardcore around at that time, which never really fell into that having a uniform thing regardless. As long as it was flexible enough to let you move around a lot and rugged enough to hold up to random impacts and blood stains, it was good enough.
i think the one thing every punk can agree on, from the cargo short tshirt wearers to the crust pants and battle jacket wearers, is that paying 900 bucks for a ‘punk’ jacket is stupid. ‘punk’ battle jackets are almost like a type of art/project where you just keep working on it diy adding shit that you like (patches, stencils, pins, etc)
@ribvcage Close ups of DIY piercings. The boob shirt. Words like 'moshing, pummeling, bondage, latex, choker." The iconic SEX store sign. Guy Picciotto hanging from the basketball hoop (yea, figure that one out). Middle fingers. People moshing. Rollins wailing on the front crowd. Etc. Pretty much all the fun stuff.
I‘m a punk but you‘d never guess by looking at me. All the punks I know all look the same and I don’t want to have my sense of fashion dictated to me by the music I listen to or my politics.
Isn't "dressing like the other punks in your scene" and exact example of having your fashion sense dictated to you by that scene? One of the very telling things is that punks who like the spikes and studs kind of style don't ever seem to go around telling others that's how you need to dress. It's only the hardcore types doing that.
@aofmual Me too. So what? It's not like punk is the only genre to have a style associated with it. Someone who prefers an 80s hardcore look isn't copying an old style any less.
there is no punk fashion in my opinion. Originally in the UK you could see punks dressing as what is considered punk fashion now, but you could also see people wearing suits or literally anything at the bar/clubs. This corporate version of punk fashion is something the OG punk stood up against (unless I am misinformed) Tl;Dr: Whear whatever pleases you and be your own source of happiness.
That guy at 6:30 used to be my best friend a century ago. I was even standing near when that photo got taken and even know the exact location. Visited the place a couple days ago for a crust concert. The location is in germany by the way. The last time i saw him, he was "sieg heiling" at a punk festival, 4 or 5 years ago. Greetings from germany! 🖤
@@plejady It's the "Fatal Unikneipe" located in Landau/ Germany. Look it up. Why should i tell stories ? There are even pictures of both of us and other punks from 2013/ 2014 on the internet taken from a photographer in a local park. The band that played there at monday was also a local crust band called Grey Walls. Look them also up, they got many good albums. The german crust scene is strongly connected here in germany. Everyone knows everyone.
@aofmual We imitate what ? You mean we imitate older generations of punks ? If you think so, that's fine for me. Continue your gatekeeping, i couldn't care less.
I got into punk rock in 1978 in Orange County California. The 1980s and 90s were the funnest years of my life living the punk rock life going to gigs. Punk rock is not a fad it is a Life Style.
That's also why newer kids coming up in the internet often miss the entire damned point. It was a whole subculture, an actual lifestyle. But people who never experienced any of it see pics and think they can riff on it all just by copying and modifying an aesthetic. It was never (just, and even then only for certain flavors) about the damned aesthetic. When being the new face at the wrong club could invite varying degrees of violence, you had to want to be part of the whole scene itself or just go play dress up somewhere else.
@@RevShifty The stupidity of that attitude is that anybody only interested in 'dressing up' wouldn't go near a punk show. And if someone was into 'that look' and the music, anyone having a go at them is basically getting angry because someone doesn't dress like them.
@RevShifty the Orange County punk rock scene was more like a family. Everybody or most everybody knew each other, Social Distortion, DI, TSOL,US BOMBS, Eddie and the Subtitles would Play House Parties. When you got kicked out of the house, you'd go stay at the Confederate house our the Allan Motel, ect. The Cuckoo's Nest and at Club Mesa in the Galaxy, Big John's we're all great places to go in Orange County to see a gig. FUN TIMES!! I agree with you the kids today just do not get it
They say imitation is the highest form of flattery. Gatekeeping (paywalling with admission, lol) authenticity, rejecting that fun experience for others, just makes you unknowable. If they love the music and their love is not enough, who are you to deserve to be known in the first place? Take the compliment. I’ve been to punk shows. They’re full of dorks.
@ciao214Z It's a 40+ year old genre. Of course they are imitators. It's only punk that seems to bother people. Nobody says "Why do all these metal bands/fans still have long hair?"
i learned this when i posted my battke jacket online asking for advice, it -' not very good or very 'punk' but Still many punk people helped me, giving tips on how to customize it for little to no money, how to wash it etc, never had one mean comment from anyone of the punk comunity
Eh, look at how for example Henry Rollins (Black Flag) or Ian MacKay dressed. The DC Punks/hardcore-punks in general looked like regular people. As far as I know, the pictures that I've seen from then haven't had people with colored hair, spiked, or whatever stereotype of punks that some might have. I wasn't very old back then, so I don't want to sound like I knew about it. My point is that it's not in the clothes, but in the attitude.
American Scene, obviously NY First etc.. shortly after East West grew .. looked normal to today's standards, I'm from. Orange County California and 50, short hair and a subtle look was it . Have to imagine the Normals, Hicks ,Jocks of the time . They Stood out ... Oi Oi Oi from Huntington Beach CA.. always find new music
That's what literally separated the various hardcore scenes from their dressier punk counterparts for the longest time. Most early hardcore fans and musicians were coming from work, so they looked normal to everyone else anyway. And it turned out you could move around and mosh a lot harder in t-shirts and cheap slacks than you could in overpriced bondage gear with 80 different buckles anyway, so almost ironically the violence of hardcore kept it looking the most 'normal'. For literal decades.
Crust also very influenced by UK hardcore i.e. Discharge, which is Motorhead influence aka d-beat. D-beat went on to create thrash in America, Scandanavian death metal (eventually djent), grindcore (Napalm Death) etc. American hardcore was very influenced by Black Sabbath as well as 77 punk like Ramones, with a quest for heavier sounds leading to bands like United Mutation and Seige. Basically metal died in the late 70s and returned about 10 years later heavier than ever because punk and hardcore. (Except glam and hair metal tried to revive the classic rock sound only to die quickly by grunge, which was yet another punk influenced genre. Yet hair metal has much more popular appeal compared to punk)
Discharge were unique at the time, and had a massive influence on both punk and metal genres. Motorhead are different, and although Lemmy left, or was kicked out of Hawkwind, there was some kind of parallel development of music style in the early days.
@@rambopack9140 Anarchy and ''anarchy'' are two different things. Anarchy as a synonym for chaos, mindless destruction and disorder - used by the Pistols, Exploited and most punks and ordinary people - means virtually the opposite of what anarchy means in anarchism as a political doctrine. Crass and bands which followed were inspired by the latter. That's why their punk is called anarcho-punk. It's a strongly political and subversive subgenre extending far beyond just playing punk music.
There’s pictures of some of my family members where they wore all of the above. Nowadays you cannot tell that they were hardcore punks other than my uncle framing his old battle vest.
punk isnt about fashion, if you want to dress like the stereotype do just that, but look at many punk bands, barely any of them dressed as the stereotype, like the buzzcocks, xray spex etc
this is such a great video essay on the subculture and its history! recently i was asked by an alternative kid ive pretty much adopted as a younger sibling to help them with an ongoing project for their school that explores different subcultures in music and their history and if i could help as im a punk and had been since well before i was even 10 years old (not a brag, i promise.. its just who i am at my core) to which was a resounding yes so im definitely gonna share this because i know this kid is gonna do me proud with zero sugarcoating and showcasing the good, the bad, and downright grimy of punk past present and future 🤟😈🤟
@aofmual I mean yeah, no doubt about it, most of the time it's the preps and normies doing it and that's just vomit inducing as is. that being said, I like seeing all the younger kids who aren't a part of that poser shit and that are actually weirdos who have shit to say take interest in it and actually want to learn about the core principles and meanings with genuine curiosity and respect for what we've done and gone through as a community. it's interesting to see what they make of it. kinda gives me hope (emphasis on kinda lol)
@aofmual humans imitate things when they find an attitude cool, at the end of the day does non conformism rlly die when theres so many weird mfs around? its an ode to what once was + the music still ties ppl to it
Love this video! Personally I love making my own clothes inspired by the old punk fashions. It's enabled me to escape perfectionism in my art. I paint and draw my own patches and sew them by hand. Currently working on a Cramps back piece thats about 9x12 inches big. Punk fashion is in no way some kind of requirement for anyone to participate in the subculture. I personally love the style, I think it's a great way to show who I am on the inside on the outside, and wear my art! It also makes me more approachable to like-minded people, and it gives people a conversational 'in' to talk to me by commenting on something I'm wearing, or my bright colored buzzcut which is very easy to bleach and color myself, and maintain for basically free. I also find it easier to skip past all the vibe checking you gotta do when you first meet someone when I'm literally wearing my values on my sleeve. Lots of queer people feel safe to disclose themselves to me right away, and that's really important to me as a queer person. To anyone who might feel discouraged by the sentiment of 'punk fashion is just another uniform', yes this statement does speak true for people wearing it for the wrong reasons. Just realize that any assumption people make about what you're wearing and why has more to do with them than it does with you. Make your art, wear what you like. Don't judge any books- but remember this. Money can't buy you the feeling of wearing something that is totally your creation, that you worked on yourself (or received as a gift!), that says something about you. And if it can buy that, I promise you that it can buy it for less than $20. Good luck!!
I would love to see you do a video explaining the ethics, politics and morals of the punk subculture, and if one has already been made please share the link
I wear punk. There's no ethics and rules in punk. We got degenerate scum Nazis and anarcho-communists blending in a Sabbath concert altogether. No one defines what punk is, you decide it yourself.
Punks basically just show the middle finger to society. It’s a counter-culture movement so punks tend to be accepting, have strong morals and ethics (unless you’re part of the system), and have anti-establishment political views.
The best way to do a "mo" is with hairspray, and a hair dryer. the hair dryer melts the hair spray and makes it so it won't go down. It's essentially the "blue" pill for your napper. I know some classic punks, and they will all tell you the same thing. Inset spiky hairspray and a hair dryer.
i have to say... punk music and style really originated in the US, even the term 'punk' for a music genre did. it's just that british punk quickly developed a distintive punk fashion style, DocMartens boots & shoes, long zipper pants with straps and ass flaps, in part due to involvement with later big fashion designers like Vivienne Westwood.
@@plejady i was more into UK punk stuff and i'm from europe, but... yes! the US! FACT! or do you think 'punk' was invented in the UK while the term 'punk rock' was invented later in the US to describe the music of venues like CBGBs but then sent back through time to england, so the brits have a name for their genre? dude... science.
@@dumpsky “Now, an awful lot of American journalism is saying that New York punk is where it all comes from. Oh, go fuck yourselves; it is talking shit. I was brought up in Britain!” Lydon expressed, leering towards the screen as though he was going to headbutt his webcam. He then rattled off an array of the artists that truly did inspire the Sex Pistols: “Mud, The Sweet, T Rex, Mott the Hoople, Dave Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Alex Harvey Band, Status Quo, Traffic, a vast extending universe of music. That’s what influenced me.”
Im a crustpunk and my style is like my one crust pants that I never wash and a random band tee…yeah I don’t know if calling it a fashion is the right word
Dress however you want. I just wear whatever I think is cool. I'm not doing it for other people. I can't stand the gatekeeping bullshit. Punk is a very diverse community. That's the fucking best thing about it. All the different music, all the different styles of dress, all the different political stances, all the different art that's come out of it. To me the most important thing is unity, I don't give a shit how someone looks.
Exactly. I didn’t give a shit how other bands dressed. I dressed how I felt. I wore what made me feel good and didn’t give a shit what other people thought. I dyed my hair different colors because it made me feel good. I went to thrift stores and bought awesome clothes and made it my style. It was who I was and how I am. If people wanted to except me, then they could. It was awesome making friends that felt the same feelings that I felt. It was never trying to show off.
@@Oliviux78 I've been wearing the same thing for decades. Dickies pants, black hoodies, black t shirts, chucks or vans, pyramid or bondage belt, sometimes a cone or bondage bracelet, sometimes a chain and lock around my neck, a buzzcut, a plug in my left earlobe and a septum piercing.
@@mikecynic5167 yeah. And that’s great. If that’s what makes you feel comfortable, then wear it. People can judge all they want. There’s no such thing as normal. We ARE “normal”. Maybe they’re the ones that need to check them selves. 😂
well, i dressed like i was a clone of lars frederiksen for about 14 years, until i realized ultimately i just wear a uniform like everyone else and how meaningless the look is in these days. then i just grew my hair out and dress up with whatever i like. it wasn't long before hippie accusations from some overly lifestylers came, because "duh, long hair bad". also yes, it feels good to finally be comfortable and not bother with two crappy studded belts, dogpile bondage pants and pins falling off the dumb denim vest all the time. the denim vest which i wore when it was 95 outside, sweating my ass off
When I got into punk, the first band I was into was Cro Mags, so I was dressing more skinhead than punk. I guess it was early hardcore fashion though, rather than skinhead.
Dude, come on now. The "bald" look was a Skinhead thing that dates back to the 60's in England. They listened to Ska that came out of Jamaica in the late 1950's.
That’s what sucks about the skinhead subculture, it’s constantly misunderstood, it started off as working class British dude that loved reggae, rocksteady, and ska music. Nothing more, I have no idea when the f*ck it became associated with nazism and stuff like that…
The end summed it up pretty much: If you wear any of these articles of clothing today, you are punk. Yup, the others were right all along. Punk isn't dead, as long as everyone is going to be identified as punk.
Rightfully so, but like I said in case and point, punk isn't dead then. Punk would go on being the black sheep, the "against the crowd", the outcast, individuality, uniqueness, but also at the same time, not making sense to others but a world that only YOU yourself can understand. Remember, deep down, punk was also about art and music.@aofmual
My brain works at 40% the speed this video requires, but I'm so happy I just found TH-cam gem!!! Thanx 4 the video, and if u ever wanna do some international punk stuff, Basque Country (North of Spain) has had a great scene and would be very much appreciated! 👍🏿☺️
exactly , i don’t want to be called punk/emo/goth, fuck a label. i just wear what i want and yes, of course my clothing choices are influenced by all 3 of those things, so i see why people call me any of those, but. yea. idk
it is, i enjoy punk music and style(aswell as the culture/ideoligy) but i wouldn't consider myself punk as i wear other clothn-ign too, listent o other msuic too i dint think anyone can be fully punk or fully emo or any other style
People considered me a poser but I was never trying to be punk, I hate punk, but for some odd reason everyone thought I was punk even tho I CLEARLY dressed like a metalhead.
Whatever it is, alternative lifestyles come from the same place and they’re going to the same end whether you dye your hair pink and wear torn clothes or not. It’s just one way of expression and it could look different but it doesn’t matter at the end of the day. Punk, metal, emo, goth, e-girl/boy, skinhead culture, meme culture, hiphop, hippie etc, they’re all the same so we should unite. The point is to embrace ourselves for who we are instead of selling our soul to authority.
I'm mostly inspired by post apocalyptic aesthetics, with cut T-shirts and chains and the occasional medallion, and yeah, I shower; if I have to put a label on it, I guess(!) it would be bohemian punk. Bring on the incense and the skulls! I once suggested to a goth/punk store here in Copenhagen they could do a "back to basics" line, just black jeans, t-shirts, hoodies, that people could cut up, stitch, bleach, and customize to their heart's content, sadly the response was "Nobody has time for that these days!" 😕
The skin head look was a thing briefly in the late 60s due to the ska movement known some times as skinz and suade heads, this movement began as the influx of people coming from the Caribbean and with them they brought their music ie ska, rocksteady and reggae
I never really understood the use of dental floss? I mean, ir might depend on place and time but regular thread or even embroidery thread (sometimes) can be cheaper. Also charity shops often have crafting materials (because people donate stuff they've bought for hobies they never pursued) like, maybe it was different when crust punk emerged but like, people still use it and swear by it now :/
I think because it's durable, as far as I've heard, and you can also burn the edges to seal them, but I've never used it for this purpose, so looking up a bit more might help
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Sorry for reupload, TH-cam have been silly billies with this one. Original uncensored version on Patreon, this won't affect production and release schedule. Also before commenting that I'm anti punk or not a punk because I was forced to censor by TH-cam, take a shower, thank you.
Make a video on trap metal
No.
oh THAT's why it felt like i watched this before. good video tho. Also, wasn't mentioned in the video, but i heard somewhere that egg whites where also used to spike up hair.
@@sjvskolak ew
yer vids are worth rewatching
At the end of the day no amount of fashion will free you of the poser allegations
Dude, cunts that fucking dress up for attention are by definition fucking posers, what are you fucking 12? and American? Small town?
Dressing in a one colour tshirt and normal jeans with a pair of dad shoes will land you perfectly in the safe zone tbh
Well to be fair most punks are posers.
@@MyLungsStillBurndeath metal guitarist look
@@tippiergnome8471 true (I'm a melodic death metal bassist)
gotta love how censor makes some topics marginally less understandable than they arleady are
It's a shame, I've tried multiple different censorship methods on this video, TH-cam really had something against it for some reason.
@@cooleawhy did they require you to censor Hasan?
@@AudibleFist They aren't clear, but I removed the Hasan thing because they specifically mentioned incitement of violence, aka promoting violence towards an individual.
@@coolea Did you have a video on noise rock at one point? or am I remembering wrong
@@m310grass This is the only video I have had to delete.
It’s funny how this is about fashion but it’s actually the best bite sized run down of punk culture that I’ve ever found
That wasn't only about the clothing, it's the attitude that mattered.
-someone who was there in the 70s.
I was not there myself, but have done a lot of research. It is always so corny when movies set in the late 70s have everyone on the street dressed like stereotypical punks. Really the music and freedom of expression was the key from the start. I have always felt that the biggest aspect of punk is being your true self, whether that is crazy fashion statements or casual shorts and a t shirt. A great movie set in that era is the Joy Division biopic Control, I am usually not a fan of biopics but this one was done well. The clothing people wear is also more realistic to the reality of the times.
I could never grasp the idea that there is a certain 'punk style' or fashion. I thought the whole point is to be non-conformist and individualistic. And looking at some punks today or even twenty years back they kinda look like they're trying to imitate something they have seen and thus some kind of punk-ish uniformity emerges. Which of course, defeats the whole point 🤔
I like the old style though, that's why I want to recreate it (but I put my own style into it too)
I can agree to a certain extent but I've next seen a battle jacket that had a twin
ding ding ding lol. i ve always loved being from DC because that over the top style was never super prominent. Almost everyone just threw on jeans and a t shirt and rolled out the door. i cant imagine taking anymore than five minutes to do my hair lmao
idk if it's a conformity thing, even if it's common in punk the majority of people don't have dyed mohwaks or wear battle jackets, a lot of punks probably just like the look
@@UGLY-MONEY17 It was the same thing in Boston, at least by the time I came up. Although there was a lot more hardcore around at that time, which never really fell into that having a uniform thing regardless. As long as it was flexible enough to let you move around a lot and rugged enough to hold up to random impacts and blood stains, it was good enough.
Never understood ppl paying $900 for a punk jacket. Seems anti-thetical to punk and is usually what fashion punks do
yeah its completely against what punk fashion is about
@@jliefn met a "punk" drummer a few years ago get all flustered when I touched his designer jacket. made me realize he wasn't a real punk
i think the one thing every punk can agree on, from the cargo short tshirt wearers to the crust pants and battle jacket wearers, is that paying 900 bucks for a ‘punk’ jacket is stupid. ‘punk’ battle jackets are almost like a type of art/project where you just keep working on it diy adding shit that you like (patches, stencils, pins, etc)
The updated amount of censorship makes it more funny
what was cut out? i didnt see thhe original
@@failedcaptcha most of it
@ribvcage Close ups of DIY piercings. The boob shirt. Words like 'moshing, pummeling, bondage, latex, choker." The iconic SEX store sign. Guy Picciotto hanging from the basketball hoop (yea, figure that one out). Middle fingers. People moshing. Rollins wailing on the front crowd. Etc.
Pretty much all the fun stuff.
Makes it unbearable not funny.
@@br00tald00dlewhy the hell would the picture of piccioto in the basketball hoop get flagged. TH-cam is so dumb Istg.
Love how Coolea has a fitting fit every video
Censoring this video isnt very punk of u :/
swearing is so punk and cool
You got a point tho lol
I‘m a punk but you‘d never guess by looking at me. All the punks I know all look the same and I don’t want to have my sense of fashion dictated to me by the music I listen to or my politics.
Isn't "dressing like the other punks in your scene" and exact example of having your fashion sense dictated to you by that scene? One of the very telling things is that punks who like the spikes and studs kind of style don't ever seem to go around telling others that's how you need to dress. It's only the hardcore types doing that.
@aofmual Me too. So what? It's not like punk is the only genre to have a style associated with it. Someone who prefers an 80s hardcore look isn't copying an old style any less.
yeah, i like some punk fashion, battle jackets are fun to make but other things are just not my vibe
there is no punk fashion in my opinion. Originally in the UK you could see punks dressing as what is considered punk fashion now, but you could also see people wearing suits or literally anything at the bar/clubs.
This corporate version of punk fashion is something the OG punk stood up against (unless I am misinformed)
Tl;Dr: Whear whatever pleases you and be your own source of happiness.
Head to a thrift store and get yourself a new outfit.
I will specifically spend this money on new drip, thank you.
I can buy a 6 pack and 2 tallboys with that money and get hammered at the show
i just went to a thrift store the other day and got like six pieces of clothes for about this much lol
Punk having any distinct "look" goes against the whole idea of punk to begin with
exactly
@@Sle3pingCloudz No, not really
That guy at 6:30 used to be my best friend a century ago. I was even standing near when that photo got taken and even know the exact location. Visited the place a couple days ago for a crust concert. The location is in germany by the way. The last time i saw him, he was "sieg heiling" at a punk festival, 4 or 5 years ago.
Greetings from germany! 🖤
You wish
@@plejady It's the "Fatal Unikneipe" located in Landau/ Germany. Look it up. Why should i tell stories ? There are even pictures of both of us and other punks from 2013/ 2014 on the internet taken from a photographer in a local park.
The band that played there at monday was also a local crust band called Grey Walls. Look them also up, they got many good albums. The german crust scene is strongly connected here in germany. Everyone knows everyone.
@aofmual We imitate what ? You mean we imitate older generations of punks ? If you think so, that's fine for me. Continue your gatekeeping, i couldn't care less.
Sorry to hear he became a fascist
@@danic2514 More greyzone i guess. Not a fullblown fascist. This was years ago, so i hope he found a better path meanwhile.
I got into punk rock in 1978 in Orange County California. The 1980s and 90s were the funnest years of my life living the punk rock life going to gigs. Punk rock is not a fad it is a Life Style.
That's also why newer kids coming up in the internet often miss the entire damned point. It was a whole subculture, an actual lifestyle. But people who never experienced any of it see pics and think they can riff on it all just by copying and modifying an aesthetic.
It was never (just, and even then only for certain flavors) about the damned aesthetic. When being the new face at the wrong club could invite varying degrees of violence, you had to want to be part of the whole scene itself or just go play dress up somewhere else.
@@RevShifty The stupidity of that attitude is that anybody only interested in 'dressing up' wouldn't go near a punk show. And if someone was into 'that look' and the music, anyone having a go at them is basically getting angry because someone doesn't dress like them.
@RevShifty the Orange County punk rock scene was more like a family. Everybody or most everybody knew each other, Social Distortion, DI, TSOL,US BOMBS, Eddie and the Subtitles would Play House Parties. When you got kicked out of the house, you'd go stay at the Confederate house our the Allan Motel, ect. The Cuckoo's Nest and at Club Mesa in the Galaxy, Big John's we're all great places to go in Orange County to see a gig. FUN TIMES!!
I agree with you the kids today just do not get it
They say imitation is the highest form of flattery. Gatekeeping (paywalling with admission, lol) authenticity, rejecting that fun experience for others, just makes you unknowable. If they love the music and their love is not enough, who are you to deserve to be known in the first place? Take the compliment. I’ve been to punk shows. They’re full of dorks.
😂 punk sucks dude
I didn't know punks used OHHHHHHH MAH GAWWDDD
despite looking scary, in my experience punks are generally really nice, tolerant and helpful
any punk under 35 years old are usually the nice ones
They're also some of the most judgemental a$$holes as well
@ciao214Z It's a 40+ year old genre. Of course they are imitators. It's only punk that seems to bother people. Nobody says "Why do all these metal bands/fans still have long hair?"
i learned this when i posted my battke jacket online asking for advice, it -' not very good or very 'punk' but Still many punk people helped me, giving tips on how to customize it for little to no money, how to wash it etc, never had one mean comment from anyone of the punk comunity
kinda sad you didnt talk about skate punk, the one sub genre to not enjoy suffocating their balls with their denim leggings
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Eh, look at how for example Henry Rollins (Black Flag) or Ian MacKay dressed. The DC Punks/hardcore-punks in general looked like regular people. As far as I know, the pictures that I've seen from then haven't had people with colored hair, spiked, or whatever stereotype of punks that some might have. I wasn't very old back then, so I don't want to sound like I knew about it. My point is that it's not in the clothes, but in the attitude.
American Scene, obviously NY First etc.. shortly after East West grew .. looked normal to today's standards, I'm from. Orange County California and 50, short hair and a subtle look was it . Have to imagine the Normals, Hicks ,Jocks of the time . They Stood out ...
Oi Oi Oi from Huntington Beach CA.. always find new music
That's what literally separated the various hardcore scenes from their dressier punk counterparts for the longest time. Most early hardcore fans and musicians were coming from work, so they looked normal to everyone else anyway. And it turned out you could move around and mosh a lot harder in t-shirts and cheap slacks than you could in overpriced bondage gear with 80 different buckles anyway, so almost ironically the violence of hardcore kept it looking the most 'normal'. For literal decades.
@aofmual are you Bragging or , you were just into Oi music that young
I think being bald asf isn’t very common
And funny it being I'd say Henry Rollins is about as punk as it gets and he dresses so casually
punk feels like when you salt your hamster with butter but then he just jumps away
I know this is hard to believe, but I personally know some people, who identify as crust punks and they smell quite nice.
I believe it. Crusties now are hipsters. 20 years ago they were hippies that everyone hated that did drugs and preached too much
i knew C-Squat Crusties in Lower East Manhattan 30 years ago, and they did not stink generally
Crust also very influenced by UK hardcore i.e. Discharge, which is Motorhead influence aka d-beat. D-beat went on to create thrash in America, Scandanavian death metal (eventually djent), grindcore (Napalm Death) etc. American hardcore was very influenced by Black Sabbath as well as 77 punk like Ramones, with a quest for heavier sounds leading to bands like United Mutation and Seige. Basically metal died in the late 70s and returned about 10 years later heavier than ever because punk and hardcore. (Except glam and hair metal tried to revive the classic rock sound only to die quickly by grunge, which was yet another punk influenced genre. Yet hair metal has much more popular appeal compared to punk)
Discharge were unique at the time, and had a massive influence on both punk and metal genres. Motorhead are different, and although Lemmy left, or was kicked out of Hawkwind, there was some kind of parallel development of music style in the early days.
@aofmual Why not say something mate, it might be bollocks or might be a good insight. Doing the "I know stuff you don't" thing is shit.
You should include Crass and anarcho-punk - definitely one of the most important subgenres of punk.
I know noone in my punkscene who liked this crass shit.we all hated this band because of the shitty singer and shitty songs
Pretty sure punk supports anarchy by default
@@rambopack9140 Anarchy and ''anarchy'' are two different things. Anarchy as a synonym for chaos, mindless destruction and disorder - used by the Pistols, Exploited and most punks and ordinary people - means virtually the opposite of what anarchy means in anarchism as a political doctrine. Crass and bands which followed were inspired by the latter. That's why their punk is called anarcho-punk. It's a strongly political and subversive subgenre extending far beyond just playing punk music.
@@partisan72I'd rather have that tub of bath salts than those 2 exploited singles....
The footage of Erin Micklow when talking about current punk is about fashion is brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve seen her post like 2 rancid songs😂😂😂😂and besides that’s it’s just 🗽🗽🗽🗽
Showing off her Hot Topic finds.
There’s pictures of some of my family members where they wore all of the above. Nowadays you cannot tell that they were hardcore punks other than my uncle framing his old battle vest.
As a life-long punk, this is hilarious.
The true punks end up rejecting punk itself. Punk had to die in order to exist at all.
Remember this is Britain. In the United States punk fashion was The Ramones which was basically greaser style with long hair.
punk isnt about fashion, if you want to dress like the stereotype do just that, but look at many punk bands, barely any of them dressed as the stereotype, like the buzzcocks, xray spex etc
Hey I think that a video on the French punk scene of the 80s could be really cool ! Great vid btw !
this is such a great video essay on the subculture and its history! recently i was asked by an alternative kid ive pretty much adopted as a younger sibling to help them with an ongoing project for their school that explores different subcultures in music and their history and if i could help as im a punk and had been since well before i was even 10 years old
(not a brag, i promise.. its just who i am at my core) to which was a resounding yes so im definitely gonna share this because i know this kid is gonna do me proud with zero sugarcoating and showcasing the good, the bad, and downright grimy of punk past present and future 🤟😈🤟
Lmao
"Hi I'm timmy and this is my presentation on GG Allin"
@aofmual I mean yeah, no doubt about it, most of the time it's the preps and normies doing it and that's just vomit inducing as is. that being said, I like seeing all the younger kids who aren't a part of that poser shit and that are actually weirdos who have shit to say take interest in it and actually want to learn about the core principles and meanings with genuine curiosity and respect for what we've done and gone through as a community. it's interesting to see what they make of it. kinda gives me hope (emphasis on kinda lol)
@@zoutewand jesus christ, I can just hear the principle's office calling now 😂
@aofmual yea bro it definitely wasn't weird as fuck when you were growing up it's only the kids these days that are weird
@aofmual humans imitate things when they find an attitude cool, at the end of the day does non conformism rlly die when theres so many weird mfs around? its an ode to what once was + the music still ties ppl to it
We were upset at the way our country and government we're headed and we rebelled. We are still rebelling today!
Love this video! Personally I love making my own clothes inspired by the old punk fashions. It's enabled me to escape perfectionism in my art. I paint and draw my own patches and sew them by hand. Currently working on a Cramps back piece thats about 9x12 inches big.
Punk fashion is in no way some kind of requirement for anyone to participate in the subculture. I personally love the style, I think it's a great way to show who I am on the inside on the outside, and wear my art! It also makes me more approachable to like-minded people, and it gives people a conversational 'in' to talk to me by commenting on something I'm wearing, or my bright colored buzzcut which is very easy to bleach and color myself, and maintain for basically free.
I also find it easier to skip past all the vibe checking you gotta do when you first meet someone when I'm literally wearing my values on my sleeve. Lots of queer people feel safe to disclose themselves to me right away, and that's really important to me as a queer person.
To anyone who might feel discouraged by the sentiment of 'punk fashion is just another uniform', yes this statement does speak true for people wearing it for the wrong reasons. Just realize that any assumption people make about what you're wearing and why has more to do with them than it does with you. Make your art, wear what you like. Don't judge any books- but remember this. Money can't buy you the feeling of wearing something that is totally your creation, that you worked on yourself (or received as a gift!), that says something about you. And if it can buy that, I promise you that it can buy it for less than $20. Good luck!!
I would love to see you do a video explaining the ethics, politics and morals of the punk subculture, and if one has already been made please share the link
I wear punk. There's no ethics and rules in punk. We got degenerate scum Nazis and anarcho-communists blending in a Sabbath concert altogether. No one defines what punk is, you decide it yourself.
The what now? Do you really think they had any of those?
Punks basically just show the middle finger to society. It’s a counter-culture movement so punks tend to be accepting, have strong morals and ethics (unless you’re part of the system), and have anti-establishment political views.
@@gurriato Yes, acceptance of others and methamphetamine
@@gurriato yea
The best way to do a "mo" is with hairspray, and a hair dryer. the hair dryer melts the hair spray and makes it so it won't go down. It's essentially the "blue" pill for your napper. I know some classic punks, and they will all tell you the same thing. Inset spiky hairspray and a hair dryer.
i have to say... punk music and style really originated in the US, even the term 'punk' for a music genre did. it's just that british punk quickly developed a distintive punk fashion style, DocMartens boots & shoes, long zipper pants with straps and ass flaps, in part due to involvement with later big fashion designers like Vivienne Westwood.
Haha usa? Absolutely not true
@@plejady i was more into UK punk stuff and i'm from europe, but... yes! the US! FACT! or do you think 'punk' was invented in the UK while the term 'punk rock' was invented later in the US to describe the music of venues like CBGBs but then sent back through time to england, so the brits have a name for their genre? dude... science.
@@dumpsky “Now, an awful lot of American journalism is saying that New York punk is where it all comes from. Oh, go fuck yourselves; it is talking shit. I was brought up in Britain!” Lydon expressed, leering towards the screen as though he was going to headbutt his webcam. He then rattled off an array of the artists that truly did inspire the Sex Pistols: “Mud, The Sweet, T Rex, Mott the Hoople, Dave Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Alex Harvey Band, Status Quo, Traffic, a vast extending universe of music. That’s what influenced me.”
if you want to spin your own reality, that's fine. have fun!
@@dumpsky six Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps
hey youtube censors: DEEz-
Im a crustpunk and my style is like my one crust pants that I never wash and a random band tee…yeah I don’t know if calling it a fashion is the right word
damn this got censored into the underworld
Dress however you want. I just wear whatever I think is cool. I'm not doing it for other people. I can't stand the gatekeeping bullshit. Punk is a very diverse community. That's the fucking best thing about it. All the different music, all the different styles of dress, all the different political stances, all the different art that's come out of it. To me the most important thing is unity, I don't give a shit how someone looks.
Exactly. I didn’t give a shit how other bands dressed. I dressed how I felt. I wore what made me feel good and didn’t give a shit what other people thought. I dyed my hair different colors because it made me feel good. I went to thrift stores and bought awesome clothes and made it my style. It was who I was and how I am. If people wanted to except me, then they could. It was awesome making friends that felt the same feelings that I felt. It was never trying to show off.
@@Oliviux78 I've been wearing the same thing for decades. Dickies pants, black hoodies, black t shirts, chucks or vans, pyramid or bondage belt, sometimes a cone or bondage bracelet, sometimes a chain and lock around my neck, a buzzcut, a plug in my left earlobe and a septum piercing.
@@mikecynic5167 yeah. And that’s great. If that’s what makes you feel comfortable, then wear it. People can judge all they want. There’s no such thing as normal. We ARE “normal”. Maybe they’re the ones that need to check them selves. 😂
It will be pretty punk rock when they willingly adopt the human centipede as the new fashion.
well, i dressed like i was a clone of lars frederiksen for about 14 years, until i realized ultimately i just wear a uniform like everyone else and how meaningless the look is in these days. then i just grew my hair out and dress up with whatever i like. it wasn't long before hippie accusations from some overly lifestylers came, because "duh, long hair bad". also yes, it feels good to finally be comfortable and not bother with two crappy studded belts, dogpile bondage pants and pins falling off the dumb denim vest all the time. the denim vest which i wore when it was 95 outside, sweating my ass off
Me also
When I got into punk, the first band I was into was Cro Mags, so I was dressing more skinhead than punk. I guess it was early hardcore fashion though, rather than skinhead.
The oh my god censors cracked me up
These are awesome videos. It’s taken a long time to find something both entertaining and not brain melting.
Probably the most widespread used item to spike your hair was soap...at least in the UK anyway.
A big thing that drew me to hardcore was that everyone just dressed like a normal person.
The dental floss bit is actually pretty practical. It's stronger than thread and you can melt off the end instead of worrying about knots.
Respect for leaving that fluke in "SEVENTiiES" in
Dude, come on now. The "bald" look was a Skinhead thing that dates back to the 60's in England. They listened to Ska that came out of Jamaica in the late 1950's.
That’s what sucks about the skinhead subculture, it’s constantly misunderstood, it started off as working class British dude that loved reggae, rocksteady, and ska music. Nothing more, I have no idea when the f*ck it became associated with nazism and stuff like that…
@@marioncarbonell6047Wrong ,it was a split I. the mod movement .Working class mods became skins ,and a lot of skins didn't even like Ska
Corrie and I will watch this again (Corrie is my dog)
RIP my friend sittin at 6:26
Alex 4ever ♡ he's being really missed here.
The end summed it up pretty much: If you wear any of these articles of clothing today, you are punk. Yup, the others were right all along. Punk isn't dead, as long as everyone is going to be identified as punk.
Rightfully so, but like I said in case and point, punk isn't dead then. Punk would go on being the black sheep, the "against the crowd", the outcast, individuality, uniqueness, but also at the same time, not making sense to others but a world that only YOU yourself can understand. Remember, deep down, punk was also about art and music.@aofmual
The airplane cracked me up.
Im going to be different so im gonna spray paint and duck tape a leather jacket like everyone else in my group .
Take a jacket and paint a duck on it? That's diy and punk-ish, lol. Punk as duck! 🦆
Rest in peace Vivienne
I love all these extra little clips that are super weird and funny.
My brain works at 40% the speed this video requires, but I'm so happy I just found TH-cam gem!!! Thanx 4 the video, and if u ever wanna do some international punk stuff, Basque Country (North of Spain) has had a great scene and would be very much appreciated! 👍🏿☺️
It will be bombed first by Russian plains
I was struggling with my mental health my whole childhood. Now I am so happy that it was like that . I appreciate being happy so much .
1 thing I like is their style of dress and their music
I love how half the video is the demonetisation logo with coolea’s sexy voice over top
crust/gutterpunk is an abomination and I feel active pity for those within it
mm but the music goes hard
You need a white dress shirt leather jacket stretch jeans preferably black and a pair of doc martens or UK creppers
"There's nothing less punk than putting a label on something."
This statement itself makes punk a contradiction or a paradox.
exactly , i don’t want to be called punk/emo/goth, fuck a label. i just wear what i want and yes, of course my clothing choices are influenced by all 3 of those things, so i see why people call me any of those, but. yea. idk
it is, i enjoy punk music and style(aswell as the culture/ideoligy) but i wouldn't consider myself punk as i wear other clothn-ign too, listent o other msuic too i dint think anyone can be fully punk or fully emo or any other style
They really cut out my boy 😢
I didn't see the original or make it all the way through this one. Was it GG?
People considered me a poser but I was never trying to be punk, I hate punk, but for some odd reason everyone thought I was punk even tho I CLEARLY dressed like a metalhead.
You forgot the absolute legends that go to Punk Shows in Hawaiian Shirts and sometimes shorts 😭
all the costume-y punk shit cracks me up. the US scene really didn't roll that way and I'm good with that.
Ended up downwind from a crustpunk couple in the bus once...
Malcom mcleran stole the "punk" look he marketed from the new york dolls which was a band he managed before pistols
Punks: “We’re punks we don’t conform”
Also punks: Omg gotta get liberty spikes and a leather jacket like the smelly guy at the local concert
as a hasan fan i appreciate the random shout out
4:00 random brazilian meme just because kk
Thinking about being punk
Whatever it is, alternative lifestyles come from the same place and they’re going to the same end whether you dye your hair pink and wear torn clothes or not. It’s just one way of expression and it could look different but it doesn’t matter at the end of the day. Punk, metal, emo, goth, e-girl/boy, skinhead culture, meme culture, hiphop, hippie etc, they’re all the same so we should unite. The point is to embrace ourselves for who we are instead of selling our soul to authority.
Have you ever tried "embracing" someone who doesn't shower?
I still have a barbed wire bracelet I made in the 90s
Deathcores black windbreaker/skinny jeans is my fav
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee baby thats what I've been waiting for
As a punk i literally wear a band tee and khakis and baggy jeans
@ 6:45 there's a pic of me from when i was like 15-16 years old lmaoo
The amount of influence Youth of Today and the other second wave straight-edge bands had on 'punk' fashion is still the gold standard today.
@aofmual Camo shorts and Champion hoodies? Don't think so.
Holy damn I love ur vids
lmao my homies in the video
“I can punk you bettah pal”
“Well I can punk your punk guy”
“Well I can punk your punk that you punked buddeh!”
the amount of censorship is hilarious
I'm mostly inspired by post apocalyptic aesthetics, with cut T-shirts and chains and the occasional medallion, and yeah, I shower; if I have to put a label on it, I guess(!) it would be bohemian punk. Bring on the incense and the skulls!
I once suggested to a goth/punk store here in Copenhagen they could do a "back to basics" line, just black jeans, t-shirts, hoodies, that people could cut up, stitch, bleach, and customize to their heart's content, sadly the response was "Nobody has time for that these days!"
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Cool, Informative and Funny. Let me welcome myself in.
DISORDER ARE HARDCORE PUNK ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠
Im a big hardcore punk fan but I don’t take part in much of the fashion
Ditto
"Punk fashion explained" 🙄 How many times can I Dislike this vid?
Punk isnt about clothes. Been punk for years and it doesn't matter what you wear its a way of life
As a working class Skinhead, I don’t need piercings, or spiked colored hair to be punk. I just needed my beautiful, shaved head and my attitude.
I like this guy. Was he born a troll or was he turned into one?
also to be fair, skinheads are often misintepreted as neo-nazis but those are actually boneheads
They guy 5 seconds in one of closest mates and I wouldn't say I am unlucky to no him he is a really awesome dude
I'd wager you can find more piercings in a class of school children today than in a punk venue in the 70s/80s
The skin head look was a thing briefly in the late 60s due to the ska movement known some times as skinz and suade heads, this movement began as the influx of people coming from the Caribbean and with them they brought their music ie ska, rocksteady and reggae
'A thing briefly'? You make it sound like it hasnt been around for over 50 years.
Wrong. it was a split of the mod movement working class mods became skins ,nothing to do with Jamaica or ska😂
I never really understood the use of dental floss? I mean, ir might depend on place and time but regular thread or even embroidery thread (sometimes) can be cheaper. Also charity shops often have crafting materials (because people donate stuff they've bought for hobies they never pursued) like, maybe it was different when crust punk emerged but like, people still use it and swear by it now :/
I think because it's durable, as far as I've heard, and you can also burn the edges to seal them, but I've never used it for this purpose, so looking up a bit more might help
I found my underwear on the sidewalk.
The best way to make any mohawk stand pround is a bar of soap and a bit of water