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@@kbuitienthinh the Grenadier Guards was an elite unit in Europe, the idea being Caine's attitude is dismissive of Zulu warriors yet his command is on the verge of annhilation
The Grenadier Guards are one of the oldest and most prestigious regiments in the British Army. They are among the ones you see guarding Buckingham Palace, doing Trooping The Colour etc yet they have a battle record second to none. If you've seen A Bridge Too Far, the Grenadier Guards were partly tank based in WW2, part of the Guards Armoured Division, fighting through Normandy and Market Garden etc. They took Nijmegen and the Nijmegen bridge during Market Garden, alongside the US 82nd Airborne. He's saying its not some famous elite regiment coming to wipe out his men, but rather the Zulus.... who he appears to be mocking.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Was he being dismissive of the Zulu by saying that or was he saying that because the other officer called the native soldiers cowards yet they were in extreme and imminent danger of being wiped out by the Zulu, who were also black native “cowards” according to him? I’m not calling your analysis into question but am curious myself as to what exactly he meant by that.
@@kbuitienthinh Michael Caines character was saying the 800 British died because of the Cowardly Black's. However this guy was saying. Yeah guess who killed the 800 British? Blacks. Its not super elite unit from Europe that is about to overrun them but Blacks that he just insulted and called cowardly. Basically its a quote to show some respect to the enemy who just won a major victory against the high and mighty empire
When I served many, many years ago we were going through basic training. Weeks had gone by without a good night's sleep. One evening we were called into the hall and told to get ready for bayonet training. We were exhausted and confused why we were still training late into the evening when usually we had been dismissed to clean our kit and barracks. Then in the hall they rolled down the projector and played ZULU for us... a rare evening off work.
One of the great things about this movie is that anytime anyone insults or degrades the Africans there's always someone there to put them in their place. Here when the native levies are referred to as "cowardly blacks" someone else rightfully points out they died fighting for the British.
Especially since the comment is astounding in that he's just been told the column had been wiped out by................you guessed it. Mental gymnastics like that are uniquely exhibited by these types, whether it's white/black or, by example the WW2 Japanese expecting their unique bravery to carry the day or, a favorite of mine, WW2 US navy commanders not expecting Japanese to be any good at night actions because "they can't see at night as well as we do". Ethnic or national superiority fantasies have brought an sudden, ugly, violent end to many a conflict.
I have put this elsewhere so sorry if it's a repeat. The ordinary Brit of the day admired the Zulu for their hardiness, courage, organisation and discipline. The information display in the Scottish Fisheries Museum explains that the Zulu class sailing fishing boat of the 19th century was named the Zulu class because of of these qualities. The life of all 19th century Fisher folk was pretty hard and dangerous (the Scottish women travelled South to Yarmouth to meet the fleet and gut the catch for salting and packing) so it is a real compliment. Not to mince words, the Zulu were an aggressive, expansionary empire who had already overrun their neighbours. However, they did not want to clash with the British (sensible viewpoint) and this war was not meant to happen. I blame Chelmsford for both the war and the disaster at Islandwana.
Dalton is made to look like an effete woose. He was the most experienced serviceman at the station, and was instrumental in both organising and managing the defence. Highly undervalued in the popular histories.
>>He was the most experienced serviceman at the station Really? where do you get that from? He was a former Britsh Army NCO. But how does that make him the most experienced serviceman at the station, pray tell? Also, he's not (imo) made to look "effete". He's polite and respectful. "and was instrumental in both organising and managing the defence" Was he? I'm sure his advice (as an exerienced nco) would have been welcome but " instrumental". Again where is your evidence for this?
@@redcardinalist He had been a former infantry RSM, and took a commission as a commissary officer, which still occurs in some commonwealth, ex Empire, armies today, although its now a quartermaster role. A number of personal accounts testify to his role and leadership, including Bourne's, and a number of revisionist histories cover it. He had retired from service several years before the war, in south africa, and volunteered. Due to age and the nature of the initial invasion force, he was put into the commissariat. However, if you have doubts, read his VC citation, it states very clearly, "...he actively superintended the work of defence...This officer, to whose energy much of the defence of the place was due...". Cant say it much plainer than that.
@@redcardinalist I'll add a bit more...it was Dalton who convinced chard and bromhead not to evacuate to Helpmakaar, and to stay and fight. As far as I can find, there was no suggestion of skirmishing up the oskarberg, and the initial idea was to evacuate. Dalton was right, because they could have been cut up doing so, but he also knew that the transport they had was not possible for the role, as the cattle at the station were beef cattle, not oxen to pull the few wagons there. Second thing was that abandoning the station would have left the remaining central column ammunition and food reserves to the zulu, leaving the central column remnants with only the food and ammo on their backs...food being nearly gone, as they only carried patrol order.
Michael Caine almost got fired because the big wigs back in London viewing the rushes didnt like Cain walking around innitialy with his hands behind his back. When asked to explain why he used to that characteristic, Caine said he saw then Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Phillip do it, it represented authority and respect!
First movie my dad ever took me to see. I was eight years old. (Imagine being allowed to take your eight-year old to see a movie with topless women wandering around, these days.)
I love the tension building before the battle. I love how they create tensions in the British camp as well between the Natal natives and British; between Chard and Bromhead.
I admire that Michael Caine is willing to embody a man who has real backbone and is an ugly racist at the same time. The fact that these attributes can exist in the same person - makes him more than a one-dimensional character. He did something similar in The Man Who Would Be King.
@@TheArgieH You mean he deliberately missed the leopard that was minding its own business because he couldn’t eat it? Maybe: but this was also the age of trophy hunting on a grand scale
dalton was far from the effete pen pusher seen here.i by the way think this is one of the best movies ever so intend no complaint.his part was like many others simplified to fit the script and running time.he was in fact a retired csm and veteran of many a scrap and was in reality the only man at the drift with real combat experience.bromhead had been abandoned when the major commanding ran away ostensibly to warn hepmakaar! neither he or chard had any real idea how to organise the defence.it was dalton who organised the barricades and when the native levies fled realised the perimeter was too big to defend so erected a wall of biscuit boxes across half of it then built the final redoubt! he was then wounded in action but continued to distribute ammunition under heavy fire! the courage of the men at the drift cannot be overstated.the major who fled told the relief column at helpmakaar that they were all dead as did the remants of durnfords horse and other survivors.obviously to cover up why they abandoned them.chelmsford and his column also assumed the men were dead or as good as.they all wondered why the fit men didnt just run.chard and bromheads decision to fight was with the full knowledge it was probably hopeless but they refused to leave the sick in the hospital.to try and move them would have made them easy targets on the road to helpmakaar.in fact a fairly timourous relief was attempted but the troops seeing the fires from the burning hospital assumed the men had lost and were dead so ran back to helpmakaar where the town was in a state of terror cowering behind barricades expecting the zulu army any second!
@@BlyatimirPootin the total surprise of the zulu victory led to panic in natal they fully expected a full scale invasion.the same reaction oddly occurred in washington after the little big horn full scale panic! they expected all the native americans to invade the east! had the impi at rorkes drift obeyed cetewayo however not to cross the buffalo the battle would never have happened.helpmaaker was never in any danger.cetewayos plan always was to defend.the british invasion was illegal by crossing the river into natal the impi lost him the moral legality and made him the agressor.
@@BlyatimirPootin it became a standard ploy of the europeans in the scramble for africa then unfolding.provoke the native tribes into an aggresive act then claim self defence.it was a template for what rhodes did to the matabele with his private army 16 years later.one wonders in hindsight what if? had the zulus obeyed cetewayo where did it leave the british? a military disaster in a war unsupported by westminster may have resulted in a peace commision instead of a second invasion.despite the image of colonial conquerors the british had the home government was certainly wary of committing to wars abroad.indeed given the disasterous 1st boer war that followed swiftly it might have been in british interest to keep the zulus pacified as potential allies against the boers.zululand offered no treasure house compared to the riches of the transvaal.5 years later we see a similar situation occurring in the sudan with the hicks disater and the relief of gordon.in that case gladstone was extremely reluctant to get involved in occupying a country that had nothing of value for the british.as it was the army came home having done little waiting years for kitchener to avenge gordon at omdurman.for the poor zulus once they were the aggressors it allowed occupation cetewayos deposement and the end of independence.to be fair this would given time probably have happened anyway but maybe less blood involved.
The NNC Officers and NCO's (the whites) also ran away before the Zulus arrived at Rorkes Drift. The behaviour of Major Spalding (the commander at Rorkes Drift) also appears questionable, going to "fetch reinforcements" and leaving Bromhead & Chard at the post.
The nnc ran away at eshowe, And ran away at isandlwhana, I do not judge them for that, but, those that remained at rorkes drift were white, and the vast majority at isandlwhana white, The reputation among those on the campaign had some truth in it, However distasteful given today's climate, That may be.
Until fairly recently, it was still possible to be commissioned into the Armed Forces when quite young. Sir Timothy Laurence, to cite a living example, was commissioned as a midshipman two months before his 18th birthday.
@roberthudson1959 If I'm not mistaken, commission's in the Royal Navy couldn't be purchased. A midshipman had learn and earn his way up. And the youngest recorded midshipman was 12.
@@AngryMarine-il6ej My point was simply that lower-ranking British officers can be younger than their counterparts, particularly those in the USA. Laurence was simply a somewhat-familiar name to use as an example.
@roberthudson1959 Point taken. My comments are for the most part, based on what l learned from studying military history. It was well known commission's in the early periods could be purchased. It was I believe a year or so before Rorkes Drift, they abolished the practice. So, Brodhead may been one of the last to do so.
@@heribertfassbender5759 yeah it has the dreaded soap opera effect, the cinematic quality has been drained right out of it, I find that effect unwatchable to be honest, even for a short clip.
the HD visual on this seems to have the dreaded " soap opera tv" effect, the cinematic quality seems to be missing. Great clip but not quite how I remember it.
Interesting how Commissary Dalton was initially portrayed in the film. Dalton won a Victoria Cross and was the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift.
At the end of the film they tell that he got the Victoria Cross, as you'd know if you'd actually watched it.... As for him being "and was the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift." that seems very unlikely given he had no miltary training.Please quote your sources for this statement - "the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift." No history at all as far as I'm aware makes this claim
for a movie made in the worst time of the apartheid era it really is a wonder how they never indulge in racism. it would have been far too easy to depict the Zulus as ravaging savages and the british as the stout and heroic defenders... but instead every insult is corrected, the Zulu are shown as warriors, not animals, and in the end the british soldiers are dirtied and show fear and panic. thats what makes a movie really great to watch!!
Excellent script positively crackles with 60s liberalism - favourite line? Hook: "What am I doing here? Did I ever see a Zulu walk down the King's Road?"
I could watch Zulu and Zulu Dawn and Zulu clips all day, as long as they dont include de Witt and his daughter at Rorkes Drift. (that was a waste of good film stock)
And during WWI German general von Lettow-Vorbeck stymied a much larger force British and S. African regulars for most of war almost entirely with native “askari” troops. Later he became (in)famous for literally telling Hitler to “f*ck off” in the mid-30s. Apparently after his Africa experience wasn’t on board the “Aryan superiority” train.
Think I'd sooner take on the Zulu, mighty ferocious fighters that they are, than the Grenadier Guards who have gatlings, cannon, mortars, Martini-Henry's and rockets. Not to mention scads of infantry to man and deliver the munitions on target. Also regarding who gave the order to stand their ground. Heir today, toast tomorrow. Just saying.
The British class system is quite dramatic here. But the capitalists changed it with money being the most respected score card as we see with Russian and Middle Eastern oligarchs who have corrupted the GOP even more than the corporate capital managers.
The purpose of the red was to be seen. It prevented friendly fire. Camouflage / ambush wasn’t really a technique preferred by many of the European armies until WW1. Most battles were fought in open grassland in large numbers so there wouldn’t have been much use in hiding.
@@johnl1091 I don’t think that they had at scale yet. All of the paintings are of primarily red coated soldiers. They was certainly some units that had adopted khaki though.
Many people don't know the real reason the British wore red. Some think it was so if they were shot they not see the wound. In truth the British government was hard up for cash. When they put out bids for material for uniforms one bidder had a oversupply of cloth. You guessed it, it was red. After that they just adopted the color. So it was because at the time it was the cheapest material.
Mr Dalton had been in the 85th Foot / Shropshire regiment for many years, and was a sergeant when he transferred from the Infantry to Commissariat. He was a colour sergeant by 1879. He was badly wounded in the action, then discharged on half pay, after being awarded his VC. (Injured ex-servicees treated poorly? This sounds familiar.)
Another injustice was that Hook was in fact an excellent soldier of fine character and good conduct, definitely not as portrayed in the film. His surviving relatives walked out of the showing in disgust. Still a great film though.
From what I gather he came up with the idea to build the mealie bag walls and where exactly the perimeters should go. Chard usually gets the credit for that.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw The film is based on fact, but not the whole truth, it's a film, its an interpretation of what happened. The real Adendorff ran off along with others, that is a fact of what happened in real life.
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Great line.
"Who do you think is coming to wipe you out, the Grenadier guard"?
i still don't quite get the significance of this line. Can you explain a bit more the meaning of this quote???
@@kbuitienthinh the Grenadier Guards was an elite unit in Europe, the idea being Caine's attitude is dismissive of Zulu warriors yet his command is on the verge of annhilation
The Grenadier Guards are one of the oldest and most prestigious regiments in the British Army. They are among the ones you see guarding Buckingham Palace, doing Trooping The Colour etc yet they have a battle record second to none. If you've seen A Bridge Too Far, the Grenadier Guards were partly tank based in WW2, part of the Guards Armoured Division, fighting through Normandy and Market Garden etc. They took Nijmegen and the Nijmegen bridge during Market Garden, alongside the US 82nd Airborne.
He's saying its not some famous elite regiment coming to wipe out his men, but rather the Zulus.... who he appears to be mocking.
@@lyndoncmp5751 Was he being dismissive of the Zulu by saying that or was he saying that because the other officer called the native soldiers cowards yet they were in extreme and imminent danger of being wiped out by the Zulu, who were also black native “cowards” according to him? I’m not calling your analysis into question but am curious myself as to what exactly he meant by that.
@@kbuitienthinh Michael Caines character was saying the 800 British died because of the Cowardly Black's. However this guy was saying. Yeah guess who killed the 800 British? Blacks. Its not super elite unit from Europe that is about to overrun them but Blacks that he just insulted and called cowardly.
Basically its a quote to show some respect to the enemy who just won a major victory against the high and mighty empire
When I served many, many years ago we were going through basic training. Weeks had gone by without a good night's sleep. One evening we were called into the hall and told to get ready for bayonet training. We were exhausted and confused why we were still training late into the evening when usually we had been dismissed to clean our kit and barracks. Then in the hall they rolled down the projector and played ZULU for us... a rare evening off work.
"I rather fancy he's nobody's son and heir now!" I love that line.
One of the great things about this movie is that anytime anyone insults or degrades the Africans there's always someone there to put them in their place. Here when the native levies are referred to as "cowardly blacks" someone else rightfully points out they died fighting for the British.
Yeah same when one of the men in the hospital calls the Zulus a bunch of savages. The Swiss guy corrects him.
Especially since the comment is astounding in that he's just been told the column had been wiped out by................you guessed it. Mental gymnastics like that are uniquely exhibited by these types, whether it's white/black or, by example the WW2 Japanese expecting their unique bravery to carry the day or, a favorite of mine, WW2 US navy commanders not expecting Japanese to be any good at night actions because "they can't see at night as well as we do". Ethnic or national superiority fantasies have brought an sudden, ugly, violent end to many a conflict.
@@jimmiller5600 True.
Never underestimate your opponent.
@@jimmiller5600 hahaha well said
I have put this elsewhere so sorry if it's a repeat. The ordinary Brit of the day admired the Zulu for their hardiness, courage, organisation and discipline. The information display in the Scottish Fisheries Museum explains that the Zulu class sailing fishing boat of the 19th century was named the Zulu class because of of these qualities. The life of all 19th century Fisher folk was pretty hard and dangerous (the Scottish women travelled South to Yarmouth to meet the fleet and gut the catch for salting and packing) so it is a real compliment.
Not to mince words, the Zulu were an aggressive, expansionary empire who had already overrun their neighbours. However, they did not want to clash with the British (sensible viewpoint) and this war was not meant to happen. I blame Chelmsford for both the war and the disaster at Islandwana.
Dalton is made to look like an effete woose. He was the most experienced serviceman at the station, and was instrumental in both organising and managing the defence. Highly undervalued in the popular histories.
>>He was the most experienced serviceman at the station
Really? where do you get that from? He was a former Britsh Army NCO. But how does that make him the most experienced serviceman at the station, pray tell? Also, he's not (imo) made to look "effete". He's polite and respectful.
"and was instrumental in both organising and managing the defence" Was he? I'm sure his advice (as an exerienced nco) would have been welcome but " instrumental". Again where is your evidence for this?
@@redcardinalist He had been a former infantry RSM, and took a commission as a commissary officer, which still occurs in some commonwealth, ex Empire, armies today, although its now a quartermaster role.
A number of personal accounts testify to his role and leadership, including Bourne's, and a number of revisionist histories cover it.
He had retired from service several years before the war, in south africa, and volunteered. Due to age and the nature of the initial invasion force, he was put into the commissariat.
However, if you have doubts, read his VC citation, it states very clearly, "...he actively superintended the work of defence...This officer, to whose energy much of the defence of the place was due...". Cant say it much plainer than that.
@@redcardinalist I'll add a bit more...it was Dalton who convinced chard and bromhead not to evacuate to Helpmakaar, and to stay and fight. As far as I can find, there was no suggestion of skirmishing up the oskarberg, and the initial idea was to evacuate. Dalton was right, because they could have been cut up doing so, but he also knew that the transport they had was not possible for the role, as the cattle at the station were beef cattle, not oxen to pull the few wagons there. Second thing was that abandoning the station would have left the remaining central column ammunition and food reserves to the zulu, leaving the central column remnants with only the food and ammo on their backs...food being nearly gone, as they only carried patrol order.
@redcardinalist what a spanking, gave enough info to shut your claim down and then came back to add another just for fun
Michael Caine almost got fired because the big wigs back in London viewing the rushes didnt like Cain walking around innitialy with his hands behind his back. When asked to explain why he used to that characteristic, Caine said he saw then Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Phillip do it, it represented authority and respect!
This movie is a Masterpiece!!! Never get tired of watching it. Only wish I could have seen it on the BIG Screen!
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I did... my dad took me to see it when it first came out. I would have been 9ish.
That glorious panoramic scenery on the big screen in 1964 would have been revolutionary. I'd love to see it on the big screen NOW!
First movie my dad ever took me to see. I was eight years old.
(Imagine being allowed to take your eight-year old to see a movie with topless women wandering around, these days.)
I saw it when I was 8 years old. My older brother and I stayed and watched it two times.
The movie is great but John Barry's music makes it truly magical
Amen.
Agree! 100%
Thankyou, as he did for many films 🎥, walkabout, out of Africa, dances with wolves, Bond. Movies, etc etc
Dalton was actually the mastermind of the defensive scheme.
I love the tension building before the battle. I love how they create tensions in the British camp as well between the Natal natives and British; between Chard and Bromhead.
I admire that Michael Caine is willing to embody a man who has real backbone and is an ugly racist at the same time. The fact that these attributes can exist in the same person - makes him more than a one-dimensional character. He did something similar in The Man Who Would Be King.
His character is representing the attitudes of the time
Also, the wanton shooting of animals for ‘pleasure’ in the early scene
@@riazhassan6570 For the pot surely?
@@TheArgieH You mean he deliberately missed the leopard that was minding its own business because he couldn’t eat it? Maybe: but this was also the age of trophy hunting on a grand scale
Later, Caine appeared in the fine film, 'The Ipcress File', whose music was written by John Barry.
Running soldier trips at 0:19 :P
🤣😂 I love stuff like that!! In Star Wars (I think A New Hope) one of the storm troopers smacks his helmet into a bulkhead in one hallway scenes! 🤣😂🤣
dalton was far from the effete pen pusher seen here.i by the way think this is one of the best movies ever so intend no complaint.his part was like many others simplified to fit the script and running time.he was in fact a retired csm and veteran of many a scrap and was in reality the only man at the drift with real combat experience.bromhead had been abandoned when the major commanding ran away ostensibly to warn hepmakaar! neither he or chard had any real idea how to organise the defence.it was dalton who organised the barricades and when the native levies fled realised the perimeter was too big to defend so erected a wall of biscuit boxes across half of it then built the final redoubt! he was then wounded in action but continued to distribute ammunition under heavy fire! the courage of the men at the drift cannot be overstated.the major who fled told the relief column at helpmakaar that they were all dead as did the remants of durnfords horse and other survivors.obviously to cover up why they abandoned them.chelmsford and his column also assumed the men were dead or as good as.they all wondered why the fit men didnt just run.chard and bromheads decision to fight was with the full knowledge it was probably hopeless but they refused to leave the sick in the hospital.to try and move them would have made them easy targets on the road to helpmakaar.in fact a fairly timourous relief was attempted but the troops seeing the fires from the burning hospital assumed the men had lost and were dead so ran back to helpmakaar where the town was in a state of terror cowering behind barricades expecting the zulu army any second!
So the men at Rorkes drift effectively defended the town. Interesting.
@@BlyatimirPootin the total surprise of the zulu victory led to panic in natal they fully expected a full scale invasion.the same reaction oddly occurred in washington after the little big horn full scale panic! they expected all the native americans to invade the east! had the impi at rorkes drift obeyed cetewayo however not to cross the buffalo the battle would never have happened.helpmaaker was never in any danger.cetewayos plan always was to defend.the british invasion was illegal by crossing the river into natal the impi lost him the moral legality and made him the agressor.
@@mikekemp9877 ah yes of course I forgot that they never were mean to attack
@@BlyatimirPootin it became a standard ploy of the europeans in the scramble for africa then unfolding.provoke the native tribes into an aggresive act then claim self defence.it was a template for what rhodes did to the matabele with his private army 16 years later.one wonders in hindsight what if? had the zulus obeyed cetewayo where did it leave the british? a military disaster in a war unsupported by westminster may have resulted in a peace commision instead of a second invasion.despite the image of colonial conquerors the british had the home government was certainly wary of committing to wars abroad.indeed given the disasterous 1st boer war that followed swiftly it might have been in british interest to keep the zulus pacified as potential allies against the boers.zululand offered no treasure house compared to the riches of the transvaal.5 years later we see a similar situation occurring in the sudan with the hicks disater and the relief of gordon.in that case gladstone was extremely reluctant to get involved in occupying a country that had nothing of value for the british.as it was the army came home having done little waiting years for kitchener to avenge gordon at omdurman.for the poor zulus once they were the aggressors it allowed occupation cetewayos deposement and the end of independence.to be fair this would given time probably have happened anyway but maybe less blood involved.
@mikekemp9877 wow thanks for the info. Do you know what happened to the Major when everyone found out they were not only alive but had won
Ironically, Bromhead was right - their own levies did run at the first sign of trouble,
They ran when they realized the ammunition wasn't coming up and they knew how good the Zulus were hand to hand.
The NNC Officers and NCO's (the whites) also ran away before the Zulus arrived at Rorkes Drift. The behaviour of Major Spalding (the commander at Rorkes Drift) also appears questionable, going to "fetch reinforcements" and leaving Bromhead & Chard at the post.
The nnc ran away at eshowe,
And ran away at isandlwhana,
I do not judge them for that, but, those that remained at rorkes drift were white, and the vast majority at isandlwhana white,
The reputation among those on the campaign had some truth in it,
However distasteful given today's climate,
That may be.
3:02 Probably the most accurate line about officers of the British Army before reforms were implemented.
Until fairly recently, it was still possible to be commissioned into the Armed Forces when quite young. Sir Timothy Laurence, to cite a living example, was commissioned as a midshipman two months before his 18th birthday.
@roberthudson1959 If I'm not mistaken, commission's in the Royal Navy couldn't be purchased. A midshipman had learn and earn his way up. And the youngest recorded midshipman was 12.
@@AngryMarine-il6ej My point was simply that lower-ranking British officers can be younger than their counterparts, particularly those in the USA. Laurence was simply a somewhat-familiar name to use as an example.
@roberthudson1959 Point taken. My comments are for the most part, based on what l learned from studying military history. It was well known commission's in the early periods could be purchased. It was I believe a year or so before Rorkes Drift, they abolished the practice. So, Brodhead may been one of the last to do so.
@@AngryMarine-il6ej The purchase of commissions was banned in 1871. Rorke's Drift was fought in 1879.
Commissary Dalton is like a union steward!
Damn. That’s some smooth video play for this epic movie.
I love this film I do hope to get a copy someday before dvds go extinct.
Spectacular Countryside too.
0:33 Savage Chard🤣
I would love to have the Zulu chants translated into English.
good show
Gotta say, seeing this in 1080p60 looks soo amazing.
60fps looks like a soap opera
@@heribertfassbender5759 yeah it has the dreaded soap opera effect, the cinematic quality has been drained right out of it, I find that effect unwatchable to be honest, even for a short clip.
Love the British movies of this era.
Great movie
Quite possibly the best war movie ever made. It has all the elements.
I'm not a fan of the soap opera effect. But wow this stands out especially looking at the detail of the grass
Great scene, awesome movie!
the HD visual on this seems to have the dreaded " soap opera tv" effect, the cinematic quality seems to be missing. Great clip but not quite how I remember it.
Interesting how Commissary Dalton was initially portrayed in the film. Dalton won a Victoria Cross and was the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift.
At the end of the film they tell that he got the Victoria Cross, as you'd know if you'd actually watched it....
As for him being "and was the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift." that seems very unlikely given he had no miltary training.Please quote your sources for this statement - "the real hero and brains behind the defense at Rorke's Drift." No history at all as far as I'm aware makes this claim
for a movie made in the worst time of the apartheid era it really is a wonder how they never indulge in racism.
it would have been far too easy to depict the Zulus as ravaging savages and the british as the stout and heroic defenders...
but instead every insult is corrected, the Zulu are shown as warriors, not animals, and in the end the british soldiers are dirtied and show fear and panic.
thats what makes a movie really great to watch!!
If they had panicked they would all be dead.
the britsh army dont panic, it's to much paperwork.
Britain kicked South Africa out of the Commonwealth due to its Apartheid practices.
And now the Britsh are being kicked out of their own country.
@@simonbagel Less than 10% of Britain is a visible minority. Peddle your racist fear mongering elsewhere
Wow 720p and the picture quality is fucking amazing!
Excellent script positively crackles with 60s liberalism - favourite line? Hook: "What am I doing here? Did I ever see a Zulu walk down the King's Road?"
It's great how they mix soup and isanddanwa.
Gotta love the reply from Bromhead to Ardendorf, ...its your country... isnt it ?
Cowardly blacks? Who do you think is about to wipe out your command? I love it 🤣🤣 the script was perfect
TYPICAL WHITE SUPREMACIST ARROGANCE
“They died on your side, didn’t they?”
I could watch Zulu and Zulu Dawn and Zulu clips all day, as long as they dont include de Witt and his daughter at Rorkes Drift. (that was a waste of good film stock)
And during WWI German general von Lettow-Vorbeck stymied a much larger force British and S. African regulars for most of war almost entirely with native “askari” troops. Later he became (in)famous for literally telling Hitler to “f*ck off” in the mid-30s. Apparently after his Africa experience wasn’t on board the “Aryan superiority” train.
Was that same cook in Zulu dawn & was killed?
No. The cook was played by Kerry Jordan in this film, and yes, his character died in the film. He was not involved with Zulu Dawn.
I rather fancy it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.
Uk 🇬🇧 getting the message, eh! Now act and respond, eh!! No open door
Anyone else click on this because they thought that was Elvis in the thumbnail?
60fps doesn't do it.
Think I'd sooner take on the Zulu, mighty ferocious fighters that they are, than the Grenadier Guards who have gatlings, cannon, mortars, Martini-Henry's and rockets. Not to mention scads of infantry to man and deliver the munitions on target.
Also regarding who gave the order to stand their ground. Heir today, toast tomorrow. Just saying.
These clips always bring the supremacists out. Usually men who've never had a fight, lwt alone faced combat. Armchair warriors.
Shut it
good god the sped up 60fps looks like garbage, just play it as it was released, this looks cheap as shit
Agreed - I don't know why people think making something look like a cheap TV show filmed on an phone is an upgrade.
The British class system is quite dramatic here. But the capitalists changed it with money being the most respected score card as we see with Russian and Middle Eastern oligarchs who have corrupted the GOP even more than the corporate capital managers.
....and the democrats are the biggest crony capitalists today.
Gotta love the British. "Let's wear bright red uniforms against lush green hills and see what happens in battle."
Seemed to go pretty well most of the time..
The purpose of the red was to be seen. It prevented friendly fire. Camouflage / ambush wasn’t really a technique preferred by many of the European armies until WW1. Most battles were fought in open grassland in large numbers so there wouldn’t have been much use in hiding.
iirc the British at Rorke's Drift had already switched to wearing khaki uniforms.
@@johnl1091 I don’t think that they had at scale yet. All of the paintings are of primarily red coated soldiers. They was certainly some units that had adopted khaki though.
Many people don't know the real reason the British wore red. Some think it was so if they were shot they not see the wound. In truth the British government was hard up for cash. When they put out bids for material for uniforms one bidder had a oversupply of cloth. You guessed it, it was red. After that they just adopted the color. So it was because at the time it was the cheapest material.
I wouldn’t have wasted the soup. Those soldiers still need to eat. They could’ve doused the fires with water from that nearby river.
The great mistake is Dalton. He had been an officer. He played a much more important role in the planning and organisation of the defence
Hopeless portrayal. As a complete nonce. Whereas Dalton more or less organised the defence.
Mr Dalton had been in the 85th Foot / Shropshire regiment for many years, and was a sergeant when he transferred from the Infantry to Commissariat. He was a colour sergeant by 1879. He was badly wounded in the action, then discharged on half pay, after being awarded his VC. (Injured ex-servicees treated poorly? This sounds familiar.)
Another injustice was that Hook was in fact an excellent soldier of fine character and good conduct, definitely not as portrayed in the film. His surviving relatives walked out of the showing in disgust. Still a great film though.
From what I gather he came up with the idea to build the mealie bag walls and where exactly the perimeters should go. Chard usually gets the credit for that.
@@TheArgieH The real Pvt Hook was actually a teatotaller, and either the member of, or a founder of, a temperance organization.
The boar fella ran off before the battle started.
is that not the Afrikaans man who says, right at the end "They're not taunting you, they're praising you"?
@@DanBeech-ht7sw It certainly is.
@@anthonywest2989 couldn't have run off then?
@@DanBeech-ht7sw The film is based on fact, but not the whole truth, it's a film, its an interpretation of what happened. The real Adendorff ran off along with others, that is a fact of what happened in real life.
@@anthonywest2989 ahhh sorry, I didn't realise