Same! I've not seen an army toe battle done this way before, but the air and sea battles I've seen rarely come out looking good. I really enjoyed this.
In case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of the ending quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. Who was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.
@@makisp.1428 In 1870, Emperor Napoleon III declared war on Prussia. He lead the main French Army into defeat and was captured. The French people deposed him and he went into exile in England. His son went to Sandhurst, a British military academy. In 1877, most of his classmates graduated and some were sent to fight the Zulu. The Prince volunteered to go to. He got an Assegai in hi s guts.
@@stvdagger8074 Everyone did, the zulu disemboweled every enemy as they believed opening up the stomach let out the spirit so it could not linger and cause harm, playing dead wouldn't have worked.
Referring to the total eclipse that afternoon, the Zulus interpreted it as a sign that victory was at hand. In the lore that followed it is known as 'the day of the dead moon'. Pretty apt and eerie.
@penderyn8794 do you have a source for that? All the old works I can find only use "British" to refer to a combined Anglo-Scottish polity, for example Geoffrey of Monmouth writing about mythical "kings of Britain" or 17th Century Irish pamphlets referring to "British Protestants". I can't find it used derogatorily to refer to Celts. This would be quite surprising given the fact that "Welsh" is already a fairly derogatory exonym for those peoples (coming from the Anglo-Saxon for foreigners).
The Eclipse was a annular solar eclipse, so the sun never set. On top of this, you'd expect 20,000 zulu's to defeat 1,800 unprepared Brits. Ironically (and once the Red Coats got their shit together) The Brits annihilated the Zulu's from there onwards.
I'm watching this on my big telly and I have to say I'm impressed. Great graphics and good story telling. Should do a battle scene from all the wars lol well done 10/10
An incredible victory. I own a Marini Henri and tho I haven't fired it, it is so easy and fast to load/reload and aim that charging against lines of them took some mighty big balls. Great job bud
As a Zimbabwean of British stock, one of my ancestors was a redcoat soldier who was sent to retrieve the Queen's colours from the battlefield. I believe that same flag was later presented to Queen Victoria. I salute both armies. Good, brave men on both sides.
Watched a docu about this battle years ago and it was suggested that a lot of the British muskets jammed during the battle, a design flaw exacerbated by dust and prolonged firing. By the end it was spears versus rifle butts at which the Zulus were far more skilled.
@ranica47 Remember hearing the same thing. Was told the continuous firing caused some parts to expand within the mechanism due to the heat and the cartridges jammed. That along with the gun powder residue. Brutal days
@@JumboCod91 Absolutely you're quite correct, hadn't noticed the OP had referred to them as muskets. The other info re them getting too hot after so much firing and the problem of the Martini action jamming as a result is relevant though as far as I know.
@@ryansta I've never heard anything about the guns jamming, just days later there was the Battle of Rourke's Drift, where the British fired the same rifles 10X as rapidly and continuously and fought off the Zulu army inflicting massive casualties. The official line I've always heard about the disaster at Isandlwana was essentially because the British were caught during camping, a sort of surprise attack, which the British didn't follow proper procedure to defend themselves. Mainly that they didn't make it a priority to pull down their tents and clear the field so proper formations could be formed. Causing a situation where the long range British troops are hemmed in their "urban" environment of tents, without a clear open long range view of targets, while the skilled foot warriors of Zulus could flood into the cramped environment and cut the British down in hand to hand combat. Unlike at Rourke's Drift were more standard urban fighting tactics were employed to great success since they knew what to expect, the Isandlwana army were expecting a sort of open field set piece battle.
@penderyn8794 There's no 'cope' within anything, anyone wrote. The Zulu Nation were incredibly brave and incredibly physically fit warriors. No one is claiming anything different. Their problem was, technically they were fighting with obsolete technology against what at the time was one of if not the leader of the Industrial Revolution. A vast difference in firepower.
There are still questions as to why the camp was overwhelmed, but it’s agreed that it was not one thing that doomed the British; Pulliene’s deployment leaving the 24th too overstretched to provide focused volley fire (there were large gaps between each company); the Natal Native Contingent routing and leaving the battle, leaving the left flank of the 24th line exposed; the regulars running out of ammunition and unable to maintain sustained volley fire (the ammo was in screwed down boxes on the wagons, severely handicapping distribution and leading to a reduction in concentrated rifle fire), to name a few. The Martini-Henry was reliable and could be repaired by a soldier during extended use (for example changing the firing pin), so I’m not entirely convinced weapon malfunction was a leading contributor to the defeat. The battle was a much shorter affair than Rourke’s Drift, and during that engagement the regulars were able to maintain a punishing rate of fire for hours and hours (there was ammo available thanks to the bravery of a few injured men who distributed it throughout the battle).
Well, this was something. Great. Thought it was the end of the Zulu war content on the channel. Even the channel saw the comment I made, said it was the end of the content following the Battle of Kambula. Maybe he tricked me. A prank. I think of this battle moreover than the Little Bighorn with Custer three years before the Zulu war. This battle had twice as many men killed in Custer's last stand. Overconfidence was a factor in the British loss. Chelmsford thought that a well-discipline force such as his would beat back an enemy armed with spears and shield. Chelmsford expected to be a easy victory. This was not the case.
Haha thanks, I thought I was not going to be able to make these due to some mod issues but I managed to get them all sorted. I will hopefully be releasing more in the near future as I really enjoy this topic 🙂
It's things like that, happening fairly regularly to the British army due to it's widespread across the world and frequent skirmishing in the empire, that likely contributed to a lot of the ideas of the British Empire being a semi-mystical thing.
I remember watching "zulu" movie starring Michael Cane in Waiau, North Canterbury at my grandmother's place, my cousin Michelle kept on turning the volume up as loud as it would go for no reason other than to annoy me. My grandmother was doing kittens worrying about her prized TV 📺. I'm glad Michelle lives in Canada now. Lol 😂
The cinematic presents an erroneous depiction. The British were not form in a line abreast, but in a skirmish line and too far away from camp to receive ammunition resupply. That is the main reason why superior firepower was not achieved, unlike at Rorke's drift.
I only wished this would’ve popped up on my recommended earlier. This is so cool. Also, who’s the narrator? You? And did you use any cinematic mods? And what PC is bro using? And is this OBS recorded?
First let me say super impressive presentation. Honestly seeing this makes me more upset at modern movies and shows depicting battles. We have 20 something old game engines that they could mod and use legitimately in films and they still have guys running at cameras without formations.
If there is anything I learned about war tactics and strategy. Is that MOST of the time. Splitting up your forces usually results In a loss. Man oh’ man. Ain’t that right Santa Ana? 🤣
It works sometimes. If you use a weaker portion to separate the enemies stronger force defeat in detail regroup and crush the remaining. Cannae (216 BC) Mongols Chancellorsville (1863) Austerlitz (1805) Bulge (1944-1945) Midway (1942)
Peter O Toole played the arrogant Chelmsford to a tee. He was dismissive of the Zulus and didn't leave behind a strong commander. The results speak for themselves.
@@HendrixTaylor24 Heheh. Hilarious. And just look at how you all CRY about the people you "civilized" turning up on your shores now. Oh, and how many people did you all slaughter and enslave in your lofty efforts to "deliver civilization?" Quite a few, huh? Not in this case, of course.
@@HendrixTaylor24 And yet, how the tears do FLOW when those you "civilized" turn up at your doorstep. Heheh. And, speaking of decline, just look at the decline of England, in general. Clinging to your national colonization fetish only makes things more pathetic.
@@pkmcburroughs Yes, its true, since 1998 when Blair got in we have flooded the country with the third world. The decline is sad, but at least we had an empire, unlike whatever sordid little knoll you reside on top of.
@@egay86292 I don't know if it was arrogance, since days later at Rourke's Drift the disaster at Isandlwana was repaid with miracle. From what I've heard the army at Isandlwana just didn't follow proper procedure in general, mainly the collapsing of tents so to form proper formations, etc, leaving behind guns could of just as easily been tactical incompetents of thinking it's not worth carrying them, rather than arrogance. It's not like British weren't well aware of the reality of fighting skilled foot warriors with guns, it was major news across the Empire were a British square was broken by I think Mameluks in Egypt, Kipling even commemorated in a famous poem.
Great video. I only want to say for a more authentic environment, using Napoleon TW, the battle should have been done somewhere in southern Spain to more closely resemble where the battle took place
They died. The attempt is shown quite realistically in 'Zulu Dawn'. Some of Durnford's Horse got to Rorke's drift but didn't stop, some of the Natal Native Contingent as well. In fact the Zulus who crossed the river and attacked Rorke's Drift did so against their King's orders. The whole British attack on Zululand was the idea of a businessman who managed to convince Chelmsford that an attack was a good idea, and it flew in the face of agreed treaties.
Disappointed with the graphics, I have visited Isandlwana, the British line was spread out and would have had gaps as well as an open flank. The ground is very open and needed to have been fortified to give the 24th Foot any chance of successfully holding the camp. Chelmsford was a poor commander who committed the ultimate crime of underestimating his opponents.
quite good for a general idea of what happened-but the British firing line was too extended-a single line of men , each about 3 yards apart and extending over a mile-it was hopeless.
A highly trained, more advanced military underestimating and disregarding a much larger, less advanced military and getting slaughtered... it's amazing how similar this battle is to the battle of little bighorn.
Would have been cool if you added Lt Melvill & Lt Coghill carrying the Queens colours out of battle and loosing their lives in the river saving the flag
The Zulu's had an odd belief about the afterlife. To them if the entrails of a corpse were cut out the soul would be trapped as a ghost on Earth and could not ascend to heaven. This was why after the battle the Zulus cut open the stomachs of the British and gutted them. This gives one a insight how high the hatred level existed for the Zulu's against the British and this was not just a battle in a classical sense that would exist in Europe but a contest where the hatred was so total that they wished to damn their opponents as shades for eternity.
@@byznt7447 They were brave and noble in some ways but terrible as well. Their undoing was they had many enemies by the time the British showed up not unlike the Aztecs facing the Spanish.
@@joycekoch5746 Thanks for mentioning that, people don't understand that the most powerful weapon Cortes used against the Aztec were other Aztec armies in dispute ver the Aztec succesion and the surrounding tribes that loathed and despised the Aztecs for the regular atrocities the Aztecs inflicted upon them. Gunpowder and horses were just shock weapons that the Spanish employed at opportune moments but they didn't have enough of either to achieve victory through those means alone.
They opened their chests to let their souls ascend, only the bravest were given this “honour” and it happened to Napoleon the Prince Imperial, after he had bravely fought many zulus and was overrun in an ambush.
Without looking it up, I am almost certain the opposite is true. They cut bellies to release warriors. This makes intuitive sense, as if you've ever seen bodies bloating it looks extra undignified. Cutting the belly isn't mutilation, really.
The zulus got away with this one but later were beaten at Rorkes drift and subjugated accordingly which resulted in the Empire continuing unabated 🏴🇬🇧
That is unbelievable that Zulu casualties are almost equal to the number of British force that these trained and experienced soldiers equipped with firearms could kill only 1 zulu per solider... how it could happen?
Probably a reference to John Colenso, Anglican Bishop of Natal. He developed some controversial religious opinion, some of which appeared to be influenced by African religious practices, which resulted in attempts to excommunicate and depose him. He also opposed the invasion of Zululand. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Colenso
n case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of that quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. He was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.
@OldHunterGehrman101 (oh come on) did zulu go to Europe and invade European, also enrich themselves from the back of European. Zulu had tribal affairs that led to conflict and invasion, which often happens. But do not compare zulu invasion to English colonist invasion.
Despite the technology, I reckon an English army from 300 years before would have faired better. Still a massive firepower advantage, backed by metal armour and men well-skilled in hand to hand combat.
You need to actually look up the Zulu a little then. They invaded and destroyed (or forced joining of their warrior society) essentially all of their fellow African neighbors. Also, the British were there at the plea of the Dutch Boer settlers that were in increasing conflict with the Zulu. Finally, the straw that broke it all was that a group of Zulu refugees that had fled to British land were hunted down and killed by Zulu warriors in a violation of accepted British territory and law.
There is so much WRONG with this video. Although it has a lot of commendable elements it totally misses the most important aspects of and reasons for this defeat of a British force by an African army. This discredits both the British and the Zulus btw. If you want to understand this battle then please read a book, or ten books and dont be misled by this video. look at 9:30 which shows zulus suddenly in close combat with the British line with no explanation and an impression that they simply ran up to them. ridiculous. A very poor and lazy part of an otherwise ok video. Vitally important to any explanation of this battle is that first the rate of fire the British line slowed down. This gave the zulus in the chest of their army some hope that they could rush them but it wasnt enough on its own for the zulus to stand up and rush them. This wasnt because the British 'ran out' of ammo but it is because they were getting low and the zulus had gone to ground (crawling slowly through the grass) and were no longer advancing boldly towards the British. Still this encouraged the Zulus who saw it as a good sign. Second and most importantly to this whole battle is that the Zulu left wing or 'horn' attacked and wiped out the most extreme right wing company of the British line after Durnfords sudden and unexpected retreat. The zulus didnt simply attack the centre of the British line unsupported, they attacked the right side of the line and began to roll it up and only when the chest of the zulu army saw this they charged forward into the centre of the British line to join those who had attacked the British right. This flank attack only happened because the Zulu left horn had ran quite far to outflank the British line and they were being held off by Durnford on his own. BUT and most crucially Durnford had not made any arrangements for getting ammunition to his men and unforgivably he retreated back to the camp without warning Pulleine or any other British officer. This sudden gallop back to the camp allowed the left horn Zulus to rush towards the extreme right flank of the British line and wipe them out. That said Pulliene should have seen the danger and reinforced Durnford or withdrawn his long line before the retreat happened. This leads to a very important detail which is that Pulleine foolishly tried to defend the same line that Chelmsford had laid out for 4000 men. Pulleines smaller force was too thin to defend such a long line and so the men in the right wing companies were standing several yards apart from each other, not shoulder to shoulder. When the zulus closed with them from their right and rear they were overwhelmed in seconds. If someone doesnt understand these details which are not in this video then they cannot possibly understand the battle. Also may I say that the British companies shown here are HUGE. In reality a company of the 1st Battalion 24 foot at Isandlwhana was about 90 men not the 2 or 3 hundred shown here and those on the right of the line were in very open order not closed order as shown here. I could go on and on but I will stop here. I only write because the comments here dont seem to understand that the important details of this battle are left out for some reason. Personally I love the history of the two invasions of Zululand in general. I have casually researched it for about 40 years. I have forgotten more than most know about it but the important things I remember really should have been in any video that wants to explain what happened and why.
@@alexc8209 It's your comment that's childish. Can't stand the critics and armchair generals. Only too happy to criticise others and point out how things should be done but never do anything themselves.
@@pauls064 It is claimed, Chelmford ordered the supply boxes bolted down , there have been claimed the '45 round casing were of poor quality. Plus the columns were too far from the supply wagons
@@David1701G “it’s claimed” yes, by cable tv revisionists who want to make dramatic “documentaries". But all battlefield evidence and eyewitness accounts indicate no troops on the firing line, or anywhere on the field at isandlwana ever ran low on ammo. Younghusband’s band on the far left fired until their final charge, durnford on the right fell back because the left horn flanked them.
@@David1701Gwithout their guns and canons, the British forces were useless. Horrendous hand to hand combatants. What would European and American warriors be without guns? Nothing.
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 Thats not remotely true, usually in european warfair they fire a few volleys and close in with bayonets for a reason and officers were extrextremely well trained in swordsmanship. What did them in was the british were outnumberd 10-1. There's a very good book called 'Swordsmen of the British Empire' which is filled with lots of first hand accounts of men who had combat experience, that discribes many native sword styles around the empire and how british officers often cross trained the martial arts with their own military sabre style.
I was skeptical about using the game for documentary graphics, but this is much, much better than a handful of reenactors!
Thanks I’m glad you liked it😁
Same! I've not seen an army toe battle done this way before, but the air and sea battles I've seen rarely come out looking good. I really enjoyed this.
@@CBGSR do you not remember time commanders where they got people to fight in a battle using this as a game?
Technology being used for educational purposes, sensibly narrated by a human being? Some mistake surely.
Shome mishtake shurely.(yootyoob keep altering it.
In case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of the ending quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. Who was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.
thank you very much
Thank you!
But I have to ask. Why is a Frenchman fighting the Zulus?
Nevermind... I looked it up.
@@makisp.1428 In 1870, Emperor Napoleon III declared war on Prussia. He lead the main French Army into defeat and was captured. The French people deposed him and he went into exile in England. His son went to Sandhurst, a British military academy. In 1877, most of his classmates graduated and some were sent to fight the Zulu. The Prince volunteered to go to. He got an Assegai in hi
s guts.
@@stvdagger8074 Everyone did, the zulu disemboweled every enemy as they believed opening up the stomach let out the spirit so it could not linger and cause harm, playing dead wouldn't have worked.
I never would have guessed anything close to that. Thanks for sharing.
Referring to the total eclipse that afternoon, the Zulus interpreted it as a sign that victory was at hand. In the lore that followed it is known as 'the day of the dead moon'. Pretty apt and eerie.
Yes I thought that too, what are the odds that there is an eclipse during a major battle? thanks for watching again bro
They could interpret anything as a sign of victory even if a thunderbolt struck their king
Sounds similar to Emperor Constantine and his vision of The Cross.
Whatever we feel about seeing signs in every little thing,"Day of the Dead Moon" still sounds absolutely metal
Something fitting about one of the most notorious defeats of the British Empire, the empire on which the sun never sets, happening during an eclipse.
@penderyn8794 do you have a source for that? All the old works I can find only use "British" to refer to a combined Anglo-Scottish polity, for example Geoffrey of Monmouth writing about mythical "kings of Britain" or 17th Century Irish pamphlets referring to "British Protestants". I can't find it used derogatorily to refer to Celts. This would be quite surprising given the fact that "Welsh" is already a fairly derogatory exonym for those peoples (coming from the Anglo-Saxon for foreigners).
@@kapitankapital6580 he sounds like someone with a chip on his shoulde
@@neiltaylor513if he is British. We all do, it's a unequivocal part of being British. To have a chip on ones shoulder 😂
Rule Brittania.
The Eclipse was a annular solar eclipse, so the sun never set. On top of this, you'd expect 20,000 zulu's to defeat 1,800 unprepared Brits. Ironically (and once the Red Coats got their shit together) The Brits annihilated the Zulu's from there onwards.
This was immensely informative and fun to watch
Thanks glad you enjoyed 😊🙏
I'm watching this on my big telly and I have to say I'm impressed. Great graphics and good story telling. Should do a battle scene from all the wars lol well done 10/10
Thanks a lot I'm glad you enjoyed watching
An incredible victory. I own a Marini Henri and tho I haven't fired it, it is so easy and fast to load/reload and aim that charging against lines of them took some mighty big balls. Great job bud
Thanks for watching bro 🙏
As a Zimbabwean of British stock, one of my ancestors was a redcoat soldier who was sent to retrieve the Queen's colours from the battlefield. I believe that same flag was later presented to Queen Victoria. I salute both armies. Good, brave men on both sides.
An American general split his forces three years before and look what happened to him.
Britain had bad luck in these little flare ups...lot of the places they tried to colonize.. the locals really got an attitude...
I was thinking the same thing.
indians had more fire arms and bows but a few ZULUS had fire arms
it is not entirely true that ZULU could defet British on with spears
@jasonyork9966If your a septic ,might want to worry about the ending of your occupation 😂
@@4catsnowNot quite has bad as the septicss Canada phillipines ,korea ,vietnam ,somalia Afghanistan 😂😂😂Paper tiger😂
Good to hear Sgt Bourne making comments
Colour Sergeant Bourne! Lol 'Alriight then! Nobody told you to stop working'
"...That's right sir, a prayer's as good as a bayonet on a day like this..."
Hitch...Hitch?
I've seen you Hitch, you're alive
Great vid!
Thank You!
Glad you liked it!
So enjoy these posts. Thank you.
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Outstanding!
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Watched a docu about this battle years ago and it was suggested that a lot of the British muskets jammed during the battle, a design flaw exacerbated by dust and prolonged firing. By the end it was spears versus rifle butts at which the Zulus were far more skilled.
@ranica47 Remember hearing the same thing. Was told the continuous firing caused some parts to expand within the mechanism due to the heat and the cartridges jammed. That along with the gun powder residue. Brutal days
@@JumboCod91 Absolutely you're quite correct, hadn't noticed the OP had referred to them as muskets. The other info re them getting too hot after so much firing and the problem of the Martini action jamming as a result is relevant though as far as I know.
@@ryansta I've never heard anything about the guns jamming, just days later there was the Battle of Rourke's Drift, where the British fired the same rifles 10X as rapidly and continuously and fought off the Zulu army inflicting massive casualties.
The official line I've always heard about the disaster at Isandlwana was essentially because the British were caught during camping, a sort of surprise attack, which the British didn't follow proper procedure to defend themselves. Mainly that they didn't make it a priority to pull down their tents and clear the field so proper formations could be formed. Causing a situation where the long range British troops are hemmed in their "urban" environment of tents, without a clear open long range view of targets, while the skilled foot warriors of Zulus could flood into the cramped environment and cut the British down in hand to hand combat.
Unlike at Rourke's Drift were more standard urban fighting tactics were employed to great success since they knew what to expect, the Isandlwana army were expecting a sort of open field set piece battle.
@penderyn8794 There's no 'cope' within anything, anyone wrote. The Zulu Nation were incredibly brave and incredibly physically fit warriors. No one is claiming anything different. Their problem was, technically they were fighting with obsolete technology against what at the time was one of if not the leader of the Industrial Revolution. A vast difference in firepower.
There are still questions as to why the camp was overwhelmed, but it’s agreed that it was not one thing that doomed the British; Pulliene’s deployment leaving the 24th too overstretched to provide focused volley fire (there were large gaps between each company); the Natal Native Contingent routing and leaving the battle, leaving the left flank of the 24th line exposed; the regulars running out of ammunition and unable to maintain sustained volley fire (the ammo was in screwed down boxes on the wagons, severely handicapping distribution and leading to a reduction in concentrated rifle fire), to name a few. The Martini-Henry was reliable and could be repaired by a soldier during extended use (for example changing the firing pin), so I’m not entirely convinced weapon malfunction was a leading contributor to the defeat. The battle was a much shorter affair than Rourke’s Drift, and during that engagement the regulars were able to maintain a punishing rate of fire for hours and hours (there was ammo available thanks to the bravery of a few injured men who distributed it throughout the battle).
Well, this was something. Great. Thought it was the end of the Zulu war content on the channel. Even the channel saw the comment I made, said it was the end of the content following the Battle of Kambula. Maybe he tricked me. A prank. I think of this battle moreover than the Little Bighorn with Custer three years before the Zulu war. This battle had twice as many men killed in Custer's last stand. Overconfidence was a factor in the British loss. Chelmsford thought that a well-discipline force such as his would beat back an enemy armed with spears and shield. Chelmsford expected to be a easy victory. This was not the case.
Haha thanks, I thought I was not going to be able to make these due to some mod issues but I managed to get them all sorted. I will hopefully be releasing more in the near future as I really enjoy this topic 🙂
Terrifying to have a solar eclipse kn middle of battle
It's things like that, happening fairly regularly to the British army due to it's widespread across the world and frequent skirmishing in the empire, that likely contributed to a lot of the ideas of the British Empire being a semi-mystical thing.
Another great video
Thanks man I appreciate it 😁
Excellent work as always. 7:20 "OK! Time to go!"
Thanks glad you enjoyed 😁
I love this. It is a fantastic idea and outstanding work! More please!
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thanks that’s great to hear 😊
Brilliant depiction of the battle, how about little big horn next?
I remember watching "zulu" movie starring Michael Cane in Waiau, North Canterbury at my grandmother's place, my cousin Michelle kept on turning the volume up as loud as it would go for no reason other than to annoy me. My grandmother was doing kittens worrying about her prized TV 📺. I'm glad Michelle lives in Canada now. Lol 😂
Awesome video! Did you use Empire: Total War or Napoleon: Total War to make this?
The cinematic presents an erroneous depiction. The British were not form in a line abreast, but in a skirmish line and too far away from camp to receive ammunition resupply. That is the main reason why superior firepower was not achieved, unlike at Rorke's drift.
Agreed. The companies were deployed in extended order with 20 feet between each man. There were also gaps between the companies.
"ZULU warrior" is a hazing ritual in the Canadian army. you dance naked while your colleagues throw beer at you.
🧐 "i say perkins, that zulu chaps waving his spear at you"
😮 "Thats not his spear sir" !!
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A Braveheart moment?
we have fought before, we will fight again, from 🇰🇪
Is this a mod!? This looks amazing
Amazing you got this film footage of the battle,
The men walked a bit jerky though.😁
😂 did you think it was real footage? You've never watched cartoon or played video games in your life?
You've never heard of a joke or sarcasm? @@abstraqtphilosophy7357
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 you mean it's not real🤭😲🥴
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 jokes aside, yeah I know it's not real.
i thought color was invented in the 1940s.
I only wished this would’ve popped up on my recommended earlier. This is so cool.
Also, who’s the narrator? You?
And did you use any cinematic mods?
And what PC is bro using?
And is this OBS recorded?
AI narrator
Impressive showcase!
First let me say super impressive presentation.
Honestly seeing this makes me more upset at modern movies and shows depicting battles.
We have 20 something old game engines that they could mod and use legitimately in films and they still have guys running at cameras without formations.
"Washing of the Spears" gives a good account.
If there is anything I learned about war tactics and strategy. Is that MOST of the time. Splitting up your forces usually results In a loss. Man oh’ man. Ain’t that right Santa Ana? 🤣
It works sometimes. If you use a weaker portion to separate the enemies stronger force defeat in detail regroup and crush the remaining.
Cannae (216 BC)
Mongols
Chancellorsville (1863)
Austerlitz (1805)
Bulge (1944-1945)
Midway (1942)
Peter O Toole played the arrogant Chelmsford to a tee. He was dismissive of the Zulus and didn't leave behind a strong commander. The results speak for themselves.
Can you do that battle of Aljaberrota in Portugal in 1386? This is when Portugal became a permenant nations.
Best total war ever made
Love it. Also love being British. What a proud history.
Heheheh. Yeah. PROUD.
Umm...what were they doing in Africa again?
@@pkmcburroughs delivering civilisation. Just look at the decline of Rhodesia since we left.
@@HendrixTaylor24 Heheh. Hilarious. And just look at how you all CRY about the people you "civilized" turning up on your shores now. Oh, and how many people did you all slaughter and enslave in your lofty efforts to "deliver civilization?" Quite a few, huh? Not in this case, of course.
@@HendrixTaylor24 And yet, how the tears do FLOW when those you "civilized" turn up at your doorstep. Heheh. And, speaking of decline, just look at the decline of England, in general. Clinging to your national colonization fetish only makes things more pathetic.
@@pkmcburroughs Yes, its true, since 1998 when Blair got in we have flooded the country with the third world. The decline is sad, but at least we had an empire, unlike whatever sordid little knoll you reside on top of.
Wasnt this battle a rear guard action really. Encampment was overrun rather than a pitched battle?
" ... a number of desperate last stands were made ... " You Mean HEROIC Don't You ? Well, Don't You ? ? 20,000 Against 800
Which Total War was used in the making of this video? I almost feel it’s a mod for Rome 2.
This Napoleon Total war with the khartum and Zulu mod
Total war games are just fantastic. Shogun 2 is my fave close 2nd is rome 2
A defeat born from arrogance and a failure to respect the intelligence of their opponents.
what are you using for that documentasion
I love how the horses glitch out and smash into each other lol
Which total war game did you use to make this? What mod?
This is Napoleon Total War and im using the Khartum and Zulu mod
Do you use Total War Games? Which game feature this era?
Most likely Napoleon Total War
With mods
The British decision to leave their heavy machine guns at base … created the opportunity for Zulus to prevail due to force of numbers !!
likely. but i think Teutonic arrogance was far more deadly.
@@egay86292 I don't know if it was arrogance, since days later at Rourke's Drift the disaster at Isandlwana was repaid with miracle. From what I've heard the army at Isandlwana just didn't follow proper procedure in general, mainly the collapsing of tents so to form proper formations, etc, leaving behind guns could of just as easily been tactical incompetents of thinking it's not worth carrying them, rather than arrogance. It's not like British weren't well aware of the reality of fighting skilled foot warriors with guns, it was major news across the Empire were a British square was broken by I think Mameluks in Egypt, Kipling even commemorated in a famous poem.
Ima a huge total war buff, what game and mod is this?
This is Napoleon total war with the khartum and Zulu mod
Great video. I only want to say for a more authentic environment, using Napoleon TW, the battle should have been done somewhere in southern Spain to more closely resemble where the battle took place
Some of the British officers fled the scene on horseback claiming they were guarding the colors .. later awarded bongs for “bravery. “
so the British officers were pot heads ?
They died. The attempt is shown quite realistically in 'Zulu Dawn'.
Some of Durnford's Horse got to Rorke's drift but didn't stop, some of the Natal Native Contingent as well.
In fact the Zulus who crossed the river and attacked Rorke's Drift did so against their King's orders.
The whole British attack on Zululand was the idea of a businessman who managed to convince Chelmsford that an attack was a good idea, and it flew in the face of agreed treaties.
@@stevetheduck1425 they were awarded Victoria crosses for their attempt to escape the field of battle “saving the colours “ 😝
Do Blood River or Rorkes Drift next
I have done both of those but they are older videos so the quality may not be as good but check them out and let me know what you think!
Disappointed with the graphics, I have visited Isandlwana, the British line was spread out and would have had gaps as well as an open flank. The ground is very open and needed to have been fortified to give the 24th Foot any chance of successfully holding the camp. Chelmsford was a poor commander who committed the ultimate crime of underestimating his opponents.
quite good for a general idea of what happened-but the British firing line was too extended-a single line of men , each about 3 yards apart and extending over a mile-it was hopeless.
which total war game is this? Napoleon?
Can you make a video about the Battle of Imjin River during the Korean War?
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
The British Commanders badly underestimated the Zulus and what they could do. So it proved to be
Uhhh can I play this? Is this a mod for total war?
A highly trained, more advanced military underestimating and disregarding a much larger, less advanced military and getting slaughtered... it's amazing how similar this battle is to the battle of little bighorn.
And the whole Vietnam War
Although it’s important to note that the Zulu forces still suffered heavier casualties here.
What Total War game is this?
Would have been cool if you added Lt Melvill & Lt Coghill carrying the Queens colours out of battle and loosing their lives in the river saving the flag
Yes you are right I should have added this
What mod is this? and what total war game is this? is it napoleon total war? or total war empire?
This is Napoleon Total War with the Khartum and Zulu mod
Amazingly Lord Chelmsford didn't lose his rank or his place in the army or in British Society
The Zulu's had an odd belief about the afterlife.
To them if the entrails of a corpse were cut out the soul would be trapped
as a ghost on Earth and could not ascend to heaven. This was why after the battle
the Zulus cut open the stomachs of the British and gutted them. This gives one a insight
how high the hatred level existed for the Zulu's against the British and this was not just a battle
in a classical sense that would exist in Europe but a contest where the hatred was so total
that they wished to damn their opponents as shades for eternity.
Or maybe the zulus were just unpleasant people
@@byznt7447 They were brave and noble in some ways but terrible as well. Their undoing was they had many enemies by the time the British showed up not unlike the Aztecs facing the Spanish.
@@joycekoch5746 Thanks for mentioning that, people don't understand that the most powerful weapon Cortes used against the Aztec were other Aztec armies in dispute ver the Aztec succesion and the surrounding tribes that loathed and despised the Aztecs for the regular atrocities the Aztecs inflicted upon them.
Gunpowder and horses were just shock weapons that the Spanish employed at opportune moments but they didn't have enough of either to achieve victory through those means alone.
They opened their chests to let their souls ascend, only the bravest were given this “honour” and it happened to Napoleon the Prince Imperial, after he had bravely fought many zulus and was overrun in an ambush.
Without looking it up, I am almost certain the opposite is true. They cut bellies to release warriors.
This makes intuitive sense, as if you've ever seen bodies bloating it looks extra undignified. Cutting the belly isn't mutilation, really.
The soldier with the trumpet just doesnt give a fuck
He’s a different breed
Englishman
You should have heard the saxophone player.
Somebody watched Zulu Dawn 200 times like my Dad!!
Looks very much like a video game. I'd play this!
It’s called empire total war the units are a mod
Yes it is😁the game is napoleon: total war and I’m using the khartum and Zulu mod
@@cinematicbattles559 is this mod on steam or MODDB?
To be 1 to 1 or close to it in losses when one side has firearms and the other does not is an epic failure and defeat.
thick wood shield could prevent bullets. zulu didn't know it or there were no trees?
The zulus got away with this one but later were beaten at Rorkes drift and subjugated accordingly which resulted in the Empire continuing unabated 🏴🇬🇧
And to note.
The zulus were also defeated at the battle of inyezane which took place the same time as isandlwana just 100 miles apart.
"March separately, fight together" - Napoleon, defeated by British.
which game and mod did you use ?
Napoleon total war and the Khartum and Zulu mod
That is unbelievable that Zulu casualties are almost equal to the number of British force that these trained and experienced soldiers equipped with firearms could kill only 1 zulu per solider... how it could happen?
It’s a shame Africa didn’t develop the same way as the west, British forces are centuries ahead of Africa, scary thought
I don’t know why they invented the wheel and the lightbulb and resided in the kingdom of Wakanda 😂
history is not yet over
6:53 that British flag lol 🤣🤣
What game is this?
20000 v 4000 is abit outnumbered,which school did these officers go to??
Which bishops were converted? What were they converted to?
Probably a reference to John Colenso, Anglican Bishop of Natal. He developed some controversial religious opinion, some of which appeared to be influenced by African religious practices, which resulted in attempts to excommunicate and depose him. He also opposed the invasion of Zululand. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Colenso
n case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of that quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. He was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.
Is the movie based on "Fall of the Samurai" or "Empire"?
This was based on a movie called "Zulu Dawn"
@@cinematicbattles559
I know, thanks, but what I want to know is what version of Total War are you using?
The fact there was an eclipse is mindblowing to me 😳
I know right... what are the odds such a creepy thing to happen during a battle
@@cinematicbattles559 both sides would have probably been like "we caused it"🤣
I always find it hilarious that the one empire who claimed to be the strongest would lose wars against natives and pissed off farmers.
All those Zulus are now in London.
No we are still in KZN and we are fine. You can keep you little London🎉
They should've fought like the voortrekkers in wagon forts and make use of cavalry
Decisive Battles Industrial Era: Isandlwana.
what mods are used in this?
Khartum and Zulu mod
Great example of British Exceptionalism.
Invading and colonizing that exceptionalism?
Buh buh cry me a river !@@helpmentalhealthhomelessness
@@helpmentalhealthhomelessness as every country did in those days, only the Brits were better at it
@@helpmentalhealthhomelessnesszulus were invaders
@OldHunterGehrman101 (oh come on) did zulu go to Europe and invade European, also enrich themselves from the back of European. Zulu had tribal affairs that led to conflict and invasion, which often happens. But do not compare zulu invasion to English colonist invasion.
What game is this? And or mod?
Napoleon total war with the Khartum and Zulu mod
@@cinematicbattles559 thank you very much! This game looks fun! Is it like a sandbox game like ultimate battle simulator is?
Some of the script copy pasted from wikipedia.
It was a victory for the Zulu but at a very high cost. Almost 3 times as many KIA than the British. Zulu couldn’t keep up with those loses.
That was a big trend of the Zulu war really.
what is this mod man this is insane
The Khartum and Zulu mod , it’s great
@@cinematicbattles559 thanks mate
Despite the technology, I reckon an English army from 300 years before would have faired better. Still a massive firepower advantage, backed by metal armour and men well-skilled in hand to hand combat.
Yes that is a good point, I never thought of that
I dont get it, couldnt archers easily take out rifle troops like those
You can see from the comment section that these wars are about so much more than land..So many ideologically bound racists.
Seriously how is a battle about racist racist
This was not a decisive victory for the Zulus at all. It was an embarrassing loss for the British, but nothing more than that.
It seems other people don't like it when you invade their lands. We never learn.
The Zulu had done that as well during its empire building - albeit on a much smaller scale.
Why do you think they were a warrior society? It wasnt ti have afternoon tea. Invading nation gets invaded its the circle of life
You need to actually look up the Zulu a little then.
They invaded and destroyed (or forced joining of their warrior society) essentially all of their fellow African neighbors.
Also, the British were there at the plea of the Dutch Boer settlers that were in increasing conflict with the Zulu.
Finally, the straw that broke it all was that a group of Zulu refugees that had fled to British land were hunted down and killed by Zulu warriors in a violation of accepted British territory and law.
There is so much WRONG with this video. Although it has a lot of commendable elements it totally misses the most important aspects of and reasons for this defeat of a British force by an African army. This discredits both the British and the Zulus btw.
If you want to understand this battle then please read a book, or ten books and dont be misled by this video.
look at 9:30 which shows zulus suddenly in close combat with the British line with no explanation and an impression that they simply ran up to them. ridiculous. A very poor and lazy part of an otherwise ok video.
Vitally important to any explanation of this battle is that first the rate of fire the British line slowed down. This gave the zulus in the chest of their army some hope that they could rush them but it wasnt enough on its own for the zulus to stand up and rush them. This wasnt because the British 'ran out' of ammo but it is because they were getting low and the zulus had gone to ground (crawling slowly through the grass) and were no longer advancing boldly towards the British. Still this encouraged the Zulus who saw it as a good sign.
Second and most importantly to this whole battle is that the Zulu left wing or 'horn' attacked and wiped out the most extreme right wing company of the British line after Durnfords sudden and unexpected retreat. The zulus didnt simply attack the centre of the British line unsupported, they attacked the right side of the line and began to roll it up and only when the chest of the zulu army saw this they charged forward into the centre of the British line to join those who had attacked the British right.
This flank attack only happened because the Zulu left horn had ran quite far to outflank the British line and they were being held off by Durnford on his own. BUT and most crucially Durnford had not made any arrangements for getting ammunition to his men and unforgivably he retreated back to the camp without warning Pulleine or any other British officer. This sudden gallop back to the camp allowed the left horn Zulus to rush towards the extreme right flank of the British line and wipe them out. That said Pulliene should have seen the danger and reinforced Durnford or withdrawn his long line before the retreat happened. This leads to a very important detail which is that Pulleine foolishly tried to defend the same line that Chelmsford had laid out for 4000 men. Pulleines smaller force was too thin to defend such a long line and so the men in the right wing companies were standing several yards apart from each other, not shoulder to shoulder. When the zulus closed with them from their right and rear they were overwhelmed in seconds. If someone doesnt understand these details which are not in this video then they cannot possibly understand the battle.
Also may I say that the British companies shown here are HUGE. In reality a company of the 1st Battalion 24 foot at Isandlwhana was about 90 men not the 2 or 3 hundred shown here and those on the right of the line were in very open order not closed order as shown here.
I could go on and on but I will stop here. I only write because the comments here dont seem to understand that the important details of this battle are left out for some reason.
Personally I love the history of the two invasions of Zululand in general. I have casually researched it for about 40 years. I have forgotten more than most know about it but the important things I remember really should have been in any video that wants to explain what happened and why.
Great post. Very informative.
I guess details like these are hard to replicate using a videogame
Make your own video if you think you can do better
@@bieituns childish comment.
@@alexc8209 It's your comment that's childish. Can't stand the critics and armchair generals. Only too happy to criticise others and point out how things should be done but never do anything themselves.
Where can I get the game?
It's not a game, buy a movie
The game is Napoleon Total War and i'm using the Khartum and Zulu mod
I refuse to watch AI narrated videos, otherwise I am sure I would have liked this.
No many mentioned of the supply of ammunition which caused a reduction of the rate of fire, allowing the Zulu's to surge forward.
Because it never happened. One of the old wives tales raised by pseudo historians on history channel etc…
@@pauls064 It is claimed, Chelmford ordered the supply boxes bolted down , there have been claimed the '45 round casing were of poor quality. Plus the columns were too far from the supply wagons
@@David1701G “it’s claimed” yes, by cable tv revisionists who want to make dramatic “documentaries". But all battlefield evidence and eyewitness accounts indicate no troops on the firing line, or anywhere on the field at isandlwana ever ran low on ammo. Younghusband’s band on the far left fired until their final charge, durnford on the right fell back because the left horn flanked them.
@@David1701Gwithout their guns and canons, the British forces were useless. Horrendous hand to hand combatants. What would European and American warriors be without guns? Nothing.
@@abstraqtphilosophy7357 Thats not remotely true, usually in european warfair they fire a few volleys and close in with bayonets for a reason and officers were extrextremely well trained in swordsmanship. What did them in was the british were outnumberd 10-1. There's a very good book called 'Swordsmen of the British Empire' which is filled with lots of first hand accounts of men who had combat experience, that discribes many native sword styles around the empire and how british officers often cross trained the martial arts with their own military sabre style.