To fansubbers or ex-fansubbers, Thank you so much for you guys' contribution and effort. You guys put colour and art in subtitling with fancy creativity, and made anime grow until it has become what it is today. Massive respect to you guys o7
I fondly remember the Gintama fansub when they took the time to explain EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE even to super obscure japanese meme. I really appreciated that personally.
That was the sound of my childhood. Along with the sound of aliens trying to communicate with you every time you tried to get on that new fangled program called "America Online".
@@alyssadavenport629 I remember when I got internet at age of 13 and discovered so much anime on a ceetain website... So many to choose and I had no idea how to search... And I chose Green Green, because I like color green.
Same. There are shows where those actually add a lot. Like in Zetsubo Sensei. Gigguk using that as a negative example makes me think he hasn't watched it.
for me it was shokugeki no soma where they had so many ingredients and ways to prep food specific to Asia that only thx to those notes i was able to truly enjoy the show and even get a bit in to cooking
I was watching Code Geass and at a moment it had one explanation saying “Shiseiken means Four Holy Swords. The name is being left in Japanese for weaboo flavor reasons”
Symphogear is one of the few shows I still watch (and rewatch) fansubbed whenever possible. The official subs just feel too dry and don't really live up to the sheer absurdity of what's happening, plus Crunchy was really inconsistent about subbing the song lyrics (which are *actually really important* in Symphogear).
Me dealing with any official streaming platform "Not Available in your region" "Not Available in your region" "Not Available in your region" "Not Available in your region" "Not Available in your region" Just wtf
@@ChloeIsSad Hey there, Argentinian here! Fuck it. Lo mismo pasa acá, la verdad no conozco a nadie que haya pagado por anime en su vida jajajaja. Saludos.
Gigguk: (Discovers Bible Black) This is like a child getting traumatized at a young age and growing up to be some crazy psycho killer. But in Gigguk's case it molded him into a man of culture.
"At least it wasn't as bad as infinite stratos 2" I love whoever made that fansub. It's so funny when the text is describing how much they hated to fansub it and a cat moves over the letters as they were lyrics
I'm not even gonna lie. I though the fansub subtitle effects in one piece was official. Like that was the way the creator wanted it lmao. It made sense lowkey
no no no, It made sense HIGHkey. Those were some top quality subtitles. From the effects, to the notes on cultural things, it was all very polished. It was to the point you thought Oda (author) collaborated with the subtitle crew. I especially remember the gattling against the Cp9 guy.
I used to be involved with a certain group making fansubs in the mid 2000s. One of the main reasons for going bananas with the subs was to push it into the legal grey zone. In other words, make it obvious that it's for "educational" purposes, which it actually was for many whom were involved in doing it. This is also why, even after softsub technology was introduced, some groups would still hard-encoded the subs (that and for lack of CPU power to render fancy things). Publishers, especially ADV, used to frequently issue takedowns and sue everyone back then, and no one wanted to deal with that.
I'm only 25 years old... and yet this video made me feel like a senior citizen. I am both depressed and impressed at how far the anime fandom went and evolved over those many years.
ikr im 14 btw but i live in iraq and we used to be like 10 years behind the world to the point that any anime that hits over 100 episodes like one piece DBZ bleach etc drops the dubbing of the anime and starts reuploading the same goddamn episodes until recently they started dubbing them again .................... BACK IN THE DAY WE THOUGHT THAT GOKU AND NARUTO JUST DIE AND THATS LIKE THE END bYe AnD hAvE a GrEaT dAy
Yep, I got really nostalgic with this video, something I really liked was having colored subs (mostly according to every character hair lol) so you can know who was the one talking until you get accustomed to their voices
But actually, translating onii-chan does sound really unnatural most of the time just because no one in English uses the term "big brother" in the way Japanese people do. It comes across as stiff and awkward.
"This video is not available in your country" is a sentence that I see all the time trying to watch anime legally... I've just given up on it... And it's now, in 2020...
Well, I don't know how it is on your country but here in Latin America we have some semi-illegal sites that work very well, and are pretty fast and reliable. This thing of being semi-legal is because they don't have property of the anime's copyright but they don't use Crunchy subs either, so they can't be denounced. And you still find some fancy arts in openings and not translated words
@@Arrviasto at least we are actually paying for the streaming service as well as the VPN provider so we don't really feel guilty about it, not getting it for free right?
My favorite fan sub translation was when two characters were having an argument and talking extremely fast and the subs was "I don't have a clue what the !*@$ they're saying".
That shit was always so cringey to me because it was so clear that it was just teenagers thinking that swear = more mature/edgy when honestly it just came off as overdoing especially when they would just SHOUT IT SO DAMN LOUD as if I don’t have ears
A lot of czech fans are pissed when names or untranslatable words are rewritten using czech phonetics (ch=č, sh=š, j=dž etc) I just wonder if it is similiar in russian
@@spinyslasher6586 Crunchyroll is now owned by AT&T's WarnerMedia (parent company of Warner Bros, HBO, CNN, DC Comics, TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Boomerang and many many others).
As of right now, I only read pirated manga from fan translation groups, and they hold such a special place in my heart. You have the beautiful sniping of manga, where one group translates a chapter or two before the original group translating it could, and the ensuing drama. You have translators admitting that the sentence sounds awkward but that the original Japanese/Korean/Chinese was kinda odd. You have the translators, typesetters and everyone else who worked on it thirsting over a character at the bottom of a panel. It's beautiful. Maybe one day all of this would be taken away and we'd lose the character and nuance of fan translations altogether. Maybe we won't have memes at the end of the page or characters badly edited to have big butts for laughs. If that day comes, what's the point of even reading manga anymore? Besides the story.
I'm late to your comment but I'll reply either way. I grew up reading my sisters old Manga and they all were special because the Translaters cared more it felt like. They translated pages upon pages of authors note, added fan discussions and art in the end and even put little reactions under the panels. I recently read the same manga but a new release (Sailor Moon if you care) and was surprised to see none of that! They removed the pages upon pages in which the author talks about receiving bunny earrings and moving for the millionth time. Fan Translaters groups keep all that. They translate it to the best of their knowledge, with love and care. I love the little TL/Notes they put in or little comments about what they did in life. It just feels more connected? Fuzzy? Warm
@@rechtrecht Exactly. Illegal manga translating is an entire culture and everyone has fun doing it. When it's professional and 'clean', it loses all of its personality.
I remember trying to typeset and redraw for a few weeks and boy was it fun. It had a lot of drama too but seeing the translation excel sheet and seeing the amount of TL:s in a spreadsheet and reading them was hella funny. It definitely helped that our translator was pretty funny.
I remember reading a manga (No idea which one now, it's been too long) Where there would be an end panel each chapter with the translator filling in blanks and talking about stuff that was changed from the LN. It was so cool, like a tiny version of essay-kun in every chapter
@@ezachleewright2309 Back in the day, lots of anime would have a little obligatory eyecatches where the studio would thank their sponsors, typically after the OP. Since fansubs usually were ripping from broadcasts, these little blurbs were usually included. With the advent of legitimate streaming services, these blurbs are no longer present. But, funnily enough, you can see their remnants on some older anime. For instance, if you watch Bleach on Netflix, after the OP plays, there is a brief freeze frame from the episode with a small bit of the OP playing over it, but no text or explanation. That is because that is where the sponsor blurb USED to be, before it was removed for Netflix's broadcasting.
Probably because the closest thing Initial D had to fancy fan-sub effects was when the subbers put the lyrics for the op on top of another layer of the same lyrics, back in First Stage. Not even sure if that was intentional.
Commie subs was the greatest sub group in the history of translation. It is on par with medieval monks who drew pictures of knights fighting giant snails in the middle of their bible translations.
To be honest I didn't even realize the scene had changed so much, that fansubs had kind of gone away. I'm feeling this odd mix of nostalgia and sadness now.
Oh, the prehistoric ages... -Yellow & colorful subtitles -Translator notes -Romanji karaoke lyrics for OP/ED singing -DivxVideo & Unregistered Hypercam2 -Blockbuster was your Netflix -TH-cam slideshow AMVs & 3part episode -TH-cam: "Click 480p for high quality" -Dub = Saturday cartoon or Adult Swim -Manga w/ no cleaners & text over kanji -Double page manga from the scanner 😭 -Huh? What's a light novel? -Visual novel translations? Good luck. -Duwang was the norm, not the meme -Windows XP was *THE* operating system -Windows Movie Maker = OG Sony Vegas -2 GB was a good amount of storage -Emulator games were starting out (Pray that I don't get killed cuz it looks like I'm a week from retirement.)
"Oh yeah I saw a Shinigami with Onii-chan and Senpai before using Kagebunshin No Jutsu and becoming my Nakama" I U N D E R S T A N D. I N E E D. H E L P.
12:09 Thanks for the senior discount :P As a baby weeb, I loved fansubs' translation notes. I think some of my favorites also had some SDH-friendly details like color-coding character dialog and [noise] captions. Those karaoke-guide OPs and EDs were so nice. And compared to OP/ED subtitles on official releases nowadays (aka nothing), I really miss them. Thanks for the nostalgia!
I really appreciate this video. Not enough people know how much love Kaizoku Fansubs went into making One Piece even more engaging. Their in-scene cultural footnotes for anecdotes and Japanese references were instrumental in understanding the context of some scenes. One gag in particular that stands out to me is when Oars Luffy is wandering around Thriller Bark looking for a cannon with child-like glee. He repeats "Taiho" (cannon) over and over until it sounds like "Hotai" (bandage), he stops and confusedly asks "Why am I looking for bandages again?".
I dont suppose anyone has a better translation for what the line could have been? Or perhaps, does anyone know what the original japanese line was so I could read it myself? Lol
@@nocturnallight2640 Did a quick google search since I'm not familiar with the scene/series and I don't speak Japanese either, but - from what I could fine anyways - the translation is actually not too far off but quite literal and heavily dependant on context. To quote somebody else "Context is needed for this. From the visual novel, the line is from Shiro, about surviving wounds that would otherwise be fatal if Avalon had not been inside of him. So when Avalon is removed Shiro remarks that things are the way the should be now (people dying, when you kill them.). In this context, the phrase makes sense. When made out of context, it does seem silly. Furthermore, following said phrase, Shiro says "それが当たり前なんだ", which more or less means, "that's only natural.""
Yes, I'm glad I got into anime back then because it let me learn enough about Japan and Japanese that I can pick up on so much of the important context that today's "professional" translation skip over.
@@ARCNA442 the professional translators today grew up on fansubs and thus take that info for granted and assume everyone knows lol. I too miss the notes
Detective Conan had some particularly interesting ones, I remember how they explained sensei being used in each context until they they eventually gave up, writing a TL that essentially amounted to "Look, sensei's used for a lot of stuff okay!".
I decided to watch Kino no tabi the other day, and there was a really neat translator note, that explained that the main character would switch between 2 different personal pronouns, a masculine(boku), and a feminine(watashi) one. Furthermore they colored the feminine ones as pink, and the male ones as blue. It was an important detail for the characterization, and even though i already properly knew the difference, i enjoyed the work put on the subs.
@@lourencopopp3444 was it watashi or atashi? watashi is more of a gender nuetral "I" whereas atashi is the feminine form. I took japanese for a number of years when I was young which is where I'm getting this from. either way, cool TL note and great effect with colors, fansubs were great for things like those edit: sorry if this came off as a negative comment, not it's intent, honestly just curious for the question and I rarely get to use my japanese knowledge so I take opportunities when I get them, sorry about that
5:44 and when they switch the translators between episodes. So one time it is translated, one time it is explained and one time keywords are just left in without any reasoning. It was not even consistent within a single series
I legitimately miss the animated attack names in One Piece. The most recent fan sub I needed to watch was Revue Starlight since the official subs were notoriously bad and didn't translate the song lyrics in a show about musical theatre. It totally brought me back and reminded me of some of the little things some translators do that I actually appreciate.
@@sizzl75 YES! It really made a difference. I loved when they would do a duet, and the lyrics would be split between the colours for the two characters.
@@MomentaiKing really help for the Nana vs Hikari fight for me. Their singing voices sounded just a tad bit too similar to differentiate the first time
3:00 I'm still not sure if "Even electronic brain pancake crystal elderly" is a fan translator suffering a stroke or just the start of a normal Ghost in the Shell sentence.
Am I in the wrong for thinking when the girl was saying "I'm not scared!" and the camera rotated around her, yet her subtitles stayed in front of her, that was pretty damn cool. Yet seeing Kirito pinwheeling his song subtitles had me hollering 🤣
The Other Dude Pretty sure that was the typesetter Tai who did that. He taught me the basics of motion tracking way back in the day with adobe AE and Mocha Pro. He was a very good typesetter.
I actually miss the Translator's Note. I learnt a lot of stuff about Japan's culture with it. Even tho most of the time it didn't make sense to me as a child. Today's subs kinda just directly translates an expression or a word without really making emphasis on the meaning or the origin of them. Most of us veterans know what we know nowadays thanks to these TNs and don't find the Japanese culture as something mysterious or strange (ex. the rubbing back thingy while taking a shower, the cherry blossom trees, the fireworks festivals and the Yukata clothes, the taking off the shoes, and many more), but newbies might have a tough time trying to understand and adapt to it. Plus my ability to read subs greatly improved thanks to them. Having to read all that stuff in a short manner of time. Yeet my eyes out. Edit: had to change some words for better understanding.
are you referring to washing someones back with one's tits? cause if you are, is there a precedent for that and can you explain it? if not pretend im not here lol
I mean. That's localisation vs translation right? One is just translating word by word and the other tries to find culturally similar concepts that might not be direct translations, but similar in meaning. Like mediating a figure of speech.
There are mangas/light novels that I stopped reading because the original fan-subbers were replaced, and I was already spoilt. Some of those were real gems. As an aside, even with how far the industry has gone for anime, fan-subs and scanlations are still critical for many mangas, light novels, and visual novels.
My favorite manga is Usotoki Rhetoric. I probably never would have touched Sakura Taisen if it weren't for the fan translation of the 1996 game. Major franchises have the resources to fund translations to cash in on international revenue, but there's a ton of creators without that kind of leeway. Fan translators are truly a godsend.
Its also a thing in Greater China, both Taiwan and China has huge fansub and translator community, sometimes a group can be both working on fansub and manga and hentai and comic and manhwa and of course, doujins, most pf them had at least one member living in Japan and keep supplying the group with fresh doujin/manga, and the funny thing is, because Japanese yakuza called themselves XX groups, so there was a police "crackdown" on Chinese translation groups because they thought the word group, wtitten in Kanji/Hazi referred to some new yakuza clans, and they almost lost the source supplier because of this.
I only recently got into anime, but after seeing the quality that can be achieved - I watch Fansubs whenever I can find one. When done right - they’re more immersive than normal subtitling. There’s nothing more satisfying than finding a quality fansub where you genuinely can’t tell if something is a subtitle or not. That’s the key - make subs so _unobtrusive_ that the viewer forgets they’re seeing subtitles to begin with.
Yep same. Even tho they don't get paid as do crunchyroll or funimation subbers, they don't have deadlines and actually take care in wording/quality. For example Gate or Girls und Panzer are on other level in translation. Also the most recent one that comes to mind is Eizouken. GJM did god's work with that typesetting, holy shit
It helps when it's all just work out of passion and one's own time. The problem is that official subs are a market product that priorities speed, convenience and "professionalism" over quality these days. It's why localization is so rampant and translator notes are a dead concept these days. Professional translators (especially in the video-game space) seem to treat their audience like they'll have an allergic reaction anything remotely Japanese thrown in these days. I really miss the wild west days of fansubs.
it's been at least 13 years since I've watched one piece and I never realised those were fansubs. The attack stylized subs felt so natural to me that I can't ever imagine watching one piece now without them. I'm barely 20 and I get given a senior citizen card smh.
I miss my 40 second splash screens explaining how nakama was the most important word in human history and how no word in the English language can come close being a one to one translation. 5 minutes later. " 'You are my Nakama' NOTE: NAKAMA = FRIEND"
Nakama generally means "someone one is close with and with whom one does something together". That could be a friend, comrade or crewmate. Normally, like all other instances of the word in other shows, it gets translated based on context, as it should. But because of fansubs, the One Piece fandom sees it as something more special or impactful than it is.
@Mr Blooper If that fits the context of how it's used, then yeah, I suppose. The point is, the word has a bit of a broad meaning in English, so you should pay attention to the circumstances surrounding where it's used when translating. It's not cut and dry. If the meaning of how it's used comes across without literally leaving 'nakama' there like a 2000s gratuitous Japanese fansub, things should be fine.
@@dankwaifu2093 Unless Japan considers "nakama" and "friend"/"best friend"/"acquaintance"/etc. to be different things, I feel like "nakama" (based on how you defined it) could be translated to something like "friends" and the meaning wouldn't be lost.
10:09 you can just tell, how late it is, when whoever was doing the subtitles finally finished it, and how they stretched after finishing the work, and then went to sleep i love it
If anything proved fansubs are still relevant it's interspecies reviewers. That said, those fansubs were just as terrible as back when Naruto was first fansubbed. If not worse.
I'm so, so glad that I could take part of the world of anime fan subs when I was growing up. I think I learned some of my first jp words through translator's notes and untranslateable words 🤣
When my dad and I saw subtitled "Weathering With You" in the theater, he asked me what "senpai" meant, since it was left untranslated. I took knowing what "senpai" meant for granted.
Senpai is one of those things that are an utter nightmare to translate. As a word, it has a very direct translation, but said english equivalents are practically never used the way senpai is. Imagine someone actually calling someone else "senior" or "upperclassman". You can elect to ignore it, but then sometimes you run into a mess when the show actually decides to make the honorifics plot-relevant. You can just leave it in, but then you alienate the casuals who don't actually know what a senpai is (and if you're dubbing then it also sounds mighty awkward). That's how you end up with TL notes, sometimes they're still the way to go.
@@ExeloMinish "Senpai is one of those things that are an utter nightmare to translate." That's why you should never force the translation of things that are simply untranslatable. And it's not bad or unprofessional. I mean, all these words like sushi, katana, tsunami etc in English are now considered as correct English, because someone in past was sane enough for not forcing the translation.
@@SloanTheOtaku Sloan... how could you call me out like this? But yes, I was in the same age of Gigguk but I was burning those cheap ass CD-Roms. Not to sell! But hard drives were measured in megabytes back then, so you'd be lucky to store one full series on your computer at a time.
I still remember when Napster was Windows only. I legit used to run SoftWindows 95 on my Mac, just to download MP3s. As for search, I was an Excite and Yahoo person mostly, but I also recall using Lycos way, way back, when my entire town had all of just two publicly reservable internet connected PCs in the city hall building. Getting the 486 was always preferred, over the 386.
Fansubs were the bread and blood of my teens. They helped me to practise my english, to understand Japanese culture and helped me to even keep up with the conversations in the anime. Seriously when you have like 6 random school-girls rampaging at one conversation, how do you know who says what? -> FANSUBS!!! Just make the text in the colour of the hair of the person speaking... BRILIANT !!! (ehm...Shuffle!.. ehm...) Thanks you Fansubs...I will never forget...
@@Chrono-bo4zc not really, crunchyroll got international, and now is one of the main simulcast for french and spanish speakers. Like gigguk said, there's still some fansub work but its rare. Ex :for french (i know because i am), animes are distributed by three major plateform Crunchyroll, ADN and Wakanim. These three share 90 to 100% of the licences each season.
@@abba5122 This. Also due to the massive shitfest that is international licencing, even if I were to go with crunchyroll, there's a good chance a majority of what I'd wanna watch wouldn't be available in my area anyway. Region locks are a fucking cancer that we should've been over and done with when it stopped being a thing in console gaming.
Fansubs are only dead in the English speaking part of the fandom,they're still thriving elsewhere !!! Just today I watched the latest one piece episode fansubbed in Italian ✌ Also why the hell is Bible Black such a universal experience??
But are those fansubs derived from Japanese or English? Because there used to be Dutch fansubs as well but they were a bad translation of awful English fansubs. Official Dutch subs were also terrible! Most dvd's came from a Belgian company called Kazé. Since Belgium is a bilangual country and because of Benelux, these dvd's came with Dutch subs and could be bought on a company website and be delivered to your home. Kazé was clearly from Wallonia( the French speaking part of Belgium) and the subs were also made by a Walloon whose Dutch was awful! The subs were horrible with lots of spelling and grammar mistakes! It gave the impression that Dutch subs were an obligation of Federal Belgium language laws to produce the dvd. It was clear that the translator had dropped Dutch as a second language in 8 th grade. Even if the subs were passable it was because the translator had a good grasp of Dutch and just translated from the French dub... Even on Netflix , the Dutch subs are usually a translation from a translation in the case for anime. Second-hand translation is what I call it. Most of the time they use English, I even saw one that used French..
@@ywee3980 Mmmmh the Italian subs are usually of very good quality both fantranslated or not,I've been deep into the English community for years so the fansubbed op episode was an exception to the "rule" and LET ME TELL YOU...seeing a translator note after all these years made me remember why I love fansubs over everything else I honestly can't tell you if they use the English translation,I know some groups do,but the Italian community has a lot of ppl that understand japanese so sometimes it gets translated from the source,I've rarely seen grammatically incorrect subs though,maybe they weren't the best translation,but without knowing the language you wouldn't notice Edit:don't quote me on this,but I'm pretty sure that every other language always has a tooth to pick about One Piece English translation,so I'm 90% sure it was done from Japanese
And to be honest sometimes legit subs are not that good, or suffer from some basic problems that should not exist. For example, the english subtitles for the Blu-Ray release of GiTS are beyond atrocious. "That body has as much device for brain science as it can hold." WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? The movie is significantly better with fansubs.
Why is everyone ignoring the "Kono band gummy wa" etc ending,when it was every single ripped episode's actual opening and ending back then?(I could actually hear the actual thing after a couple of years ) Oh the good ol'days...
I watched all of mermaid melody on TH-cam when I was 11, it was a great time. I loved singing along to the songs, something I still miss in regular subs - just let me read romaji for openings and endings so I can sing along.
"This is a free fansub. If you paid for this, you were ripped off."
-Naruto fansub
Jokes on them, people pay for worse translations nowadays.
*Funimation and Yen Press intensifies*
@@SymmetricalDocking Wait Yen Press translates anime? I only thought they translated light novels and manga.
Man of culture
YES
I can still here the end of OP 1 of OG Naruto lol.
"I WANNA ROCKS" lol
"I accidentally discovered hentai before I discovered anime"
Sounds like a Light Novel title tbh.
What if it is..
Too short
I see some isekai potential in there...
Nanka lanove mitai dana
Dude you're right hahaha
"I discovered hentai before I discovered anime"
There are men of culture, and then there are men of *culture*
i mean, im sure half the weeb population knew hentai before anime. i certainly did.
@@vm_duc sameee
Here the same!
Reversed Infinity hentai was the thing that drag me into anime
same here! i started to buy/dl anime/mango beacause i wanted hentai
To fansubbers or ex-fansubbers,
Thank you so much for you guys' contribution and effort. You guys put colour and art in subtitling with fancy creativity, and made anime grow until it has become what it is today. Massive respect to you guys o7
What’s o7?
I had the same question a few days ago, it means you're saluting.
@@Jasmine-yw8pl a salute " o7 "
@@Jasmine-yw8pl gonna overexplain like the funsubbers:
The o is the head, the 7 is the arm
your profile pic brings back so many memories...
I fondly remember the Gintama fansub when they took the time to explain EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE even to super obscure japanese meme. I really appreciated that personally.
Yeah me too
Nautical Ninja they quit halfway through :/ around episode 100 the subs get worse
The dedication
crunchyroll did that with the official sub too pretty much - took like an hour to watch every episode with all the pausing to google stuff
ShinGetsu I want to find the name of that fansub
"I accidentally discovered hentai before I discovered anime"
This explains *EVERYTHING*
Good ole Blockbuster anime aisle and them not givign a shit what was there unless it literally had tits right on the cover lol.
So... tentical porn isn't usually part of anime?
Hentai is the real original brand
... *_ye_*
Lol me too
'I will now show you, the sounds of my childhood"
**Blows on a Nintendo cartridge**
Man of culture confirmed.
* Discover hentai before anime *
Man of culture confirmed
*Yas*
You know it warns you not to right?
Lol I did that too. In fact I still do that.
That was the sound of my childhood. Along with the sound of aliens trying to communicate with you every time you tried to get on that new fangled program called "America Online".
That Sao 2 "fansub" opening was the greatest thing I've ever seen.
th-cam.com/video/nqiVJJt3_KY/w-d-xo.html
I thought it looked really fucking cool and then now I just laugh
Did anyone know whose fansub it is??
@@hambajasjus2223 commie
Gigguk's first anime was Bible Black... this explains so much.
he was a cultured boy
Let’s be real more than half of us had a similar first “anime”
Alyssa Davenport don’t call me out like that man I literally haven’t even really heard of anime and was indulging in culture
@@alyssadavenport629 I remember when I got internet at age of 13 and discovered so much anime on a ceetain website... So many to choose and I had no idea how to search... And I chose Green Green, because I like color green.
Do any of you guys know the anime character or where i can buy the shirt which gigguk wears in ths video?
The notes in Fansubs actually were one of the things that helped me get into shows like Gintama with the heavy Japanese culture references
Same. There are shows where those actually add a lot.
Like in Zetsubo Sensei. Gigguk using that as a negative example makes me think he hasn't watched it.
yeah especially Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon which was pretty important back in the Edo era
@@Trilioh because most of the times it was unnecessary for no reason at all.
for me it was shokugeki no soma where they had so many ingredients and ways to prep food specific to Asia that only thx to those notes i was able to truly enjoy the show and even get a bit in to cooking
So..?
"If you recognized that soundbyte, here's your senior discount card."
How dare you insult me and make me laugh way too hard at the same time.
Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no Tokyo day, oh Christmas!
So.... Do I still have a discount if I'm not even an adult yet or...?
I have been laughing at that for the past five minutes. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest.
didn't they do that in pokemon though?
@@ChromaticFlare It was genius. All I could hear was sponsor, Tokyo and Chrismas XD
I was watching Code Geass and at a moment it had one explanation saying “Shiseiken means Four Holy Swords. The name is being left in Japanese for weaboo flavor reasons”
Now that's a quality sub, for real.
Official subs: "She'll punch a hole right through your rules!"
Commie Subs: "Fist 1, Reason 0"
Symphogear is one of the few shows I still watch (and rewatch) fansubbed whenever possible. The official subs just feel too dry and don't really live up to the sheer absurdity of what's happening, plus Crunchy was really inconsistent about subbing the song lyrics (which are *actually really important* in Symphogear).
Iirc, they also do the Brit sub for Jojo Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency 😅
"I accidentally discovered hentai before I discovered Anime."
There are no accidents
Well that is the best accident that probably ever happend to him
-Master Oogway
It went all according to keikaku.
@@Nevara_ Director's Note: Keikaku means plan
@ArsinGamingYT nobody gaf
Me dealing with any official streaming platform
"Not Available in your region"
"Not Available in your region"
"Not Available in your region"
"Not Available in your region"
"Not Available in your region"
Just wtf
So fansub it's still best friend until now
@@fabricatorzayac actually, a lot of shows aren't available in brazil (where i live, infortunately) in official plataforms
it should say 'Not available in non-America'
because your region isn't giving them permission to stream over there
@@ChloeIsSad Hey there, Argentinian here! Fuck it. Lo mismo pasa acá, la verdad no conozco a nadie que haya pagado por anime en su vida jajajaja. Saludos.
I‘ve once watched Fate/encore with fansubs and it had a literal
"UmU"-counter for Nero and it‘s the best thing i ever saw
Hahahaha same that shit was amazing
UmU
Gigguk: Makes a video about piracy, but ends up talking about hentai.
Fanbase: Just according to keikaku
Translator's note: keikaku means plan
Just according to cake
Translator's note: In japanese the word keikaku is used when a plan works out
@@tribopower thanks you dbza
@@CGR0620 The Cake is a Lie
every gigguk video:
*_random story never told before, usually involving hentai_*
"and THATS how i discovered anime"
@@usakenvi top 10 questions science still cant answer...
"I discovered Hentai before Anime"
That explains so much
Lol me too
I’ve been watching hentai about 3 years longer
Yeah aggred
The best fan subs are the ones that colour code for each character according to their hair colour. For example Higurashi fan subs
that kind of fansub really help distinguish who the fuck is talking
Symphogear with the song subs, especially nice when multiple characters (or just Carol kek) are singing
Precure fan subs
Gigguk: (Discovers Bible Black)
This is like a child getting traumatized at a young age and growing up to be some crazy psycho killer. But in Gigguk's case it molded him into a man of culture.
This guy is everywhere
I discovered Urotsukidōji, or _Legend of the Overfiend_ completely by accident as a child! XD
I'm not a psycho. Am I person of culture?
You again
I discovered Shimoneta as a child, needless to say I have been Man of culture ever since
lmao I keep finding you in the comments section of every second vid that i click
"I like my coffee, how I like my bibles"
Oh. Oh no.
OH YES!! 😏
I feel so proud for actually getting that 😂
I like my coffee creamed tho
I don't get it :/
The opening already shows that its ...
Gigguk: Fansubs don't really have a place anymore
Me: Laughs in fansub hentai
Is that drawings of fansubers having sex?
@@daniellundberg2875 perhabs
"At least it wasn't as bad as infinite stratos 2" I love whoever made that fansub. It's so funny when the text is describing how much they hated to fansub it and a cat moves over the letters as they were lyrics
"I accidentally discovered hentai before I discovered anime"
It all makes sense now!
I did. I found it on the phone of a friend when I was 10 years old.
Fuzzy Barbarian
Same thing happened to me
Thanks Baku no pico
@@user-ns3nj1jr8h *jazz music stops*
didn't we all discover hentai before anime?
I walked into my friends big brother wacthing it
"Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no Tokyo day, oh Christmas"
15 years into anime and damn that is still what I hear...
Thank you! I also just heard something with sponsor and Christmas... What are they actually saying?
I was like why the f are they wishing me Merry Christmas?
@@AbbyGuard i think it somewhere along the lines of "this shows is brought to you by"
@@WisteriaEdelweiss This bandwagon is showed to you by following sponsors.
@@nf9844 It is. I mean, that's the English equivalent. The literal meaning is "The program is offered with the sponsorship of the displayed sponsors"
Fansubs?
Fate stay night: "people die when they are killed".
Fate/aprocrypha : "Then why does Berserker go berserk"
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works: “I’m amazed. The archer class is really made up of archers!”
Fate is just spiting straight fax
fate kaleid: "When you have a birthday, you celebrate being born"
People die when they are killed? Who could have predicted this? You must be so wise, Shiro.
Fate/Extra:"This city....really looks like a city!"
"Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no tokyo day,oh Christmas"
Nostalgic
speakin faxx
I'm not even gonna lie. I though the fansub subtitle effects in one piece was official. Like that was the way the creator wanted it lmao. It made sense lowkey
no no no, It made sense HIGHkey. Those were some top quality subtitles. From the effects, to the notes on cultural things, it was all very polished. It was to the point you thought Oda (author) collaborated with the subtitle crew. I especially remember the gattling against the Cp9 guy.
@@nfzeta128 the GATTLING effects really were great. They even enhanced that scene, to the point I have goosebumps now, just thinking about it.
@@miratparmar6779 have any idea where we can see those fansubs these days?
Same
@@thexenosaiyan Just search on google. In my country, there are still fansubs that use that kind of effect but they usually have FB Group & Website
I love how Gigguk is like an anime culture historian now.
"Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no Tokyo day oh, Christmas!"
This killed me.
Man I lost my shit when I learned the reading for 番組 in a kanji app
Old mecha shows be like that lol
EveRyBoDY aah yes of course, I loved it when they say that at the beginning of every tokyo ghoul episode! Such a classic old anime!
Me tooo. The guy is a genius lmao
I know Right?😂😂
I used to be involved with a certain group making fansubs in the mid 2000s. One of the main reasons for going bananas with the subs was to push it into the legal grey zone. In other words, make it obvious that it's for "educational" purposes, which it actually was for many whom were involved in doing it. This is also why, even after softsub technology was introduced, some groups would still hard-encoded the subs (that and for lack of CPU power to render fancy things). Publishers, especially ADV, used to frequently issue takedowns and sue everyone back then, and no one wanted to deal with that.
Can you recommend me some old anime with fansubs?
I actually wanted to watch some old animes with fansub
I'm only 25 years old... and yet this video made me feel like a senior citizen.
I am both depressed and impressed at how far the anime fandom went and evolved over those many years.
IKR. Feels weird that some people never read those blurry pissed colored subtitles... good old days :')
ikr im 14 btw but i live in iraq and we used to be like 10 years behind the world to the point that any anime that hits over 100 episodes like one piece DBZ bleach etc drops the dubbing of the anime and starts reuploading the same goddamn episodes until recently they started dubbing them again .................... BACK IN THE DAY WE THOUGHT THAT GOKU AND NARUTO JUST DIE AND THATS LIKE THE END bYe AnD hAvE a GrEaT dAy
Yep, I got really nostalgic with this video, something I really liked was having colored subs (mostly according to every character hair lol) so you can know who was the one talking until you get accustomed to their voices
VHS isn't that old of tech, right? They stopped being common like 10 years ago, tops, right? Right???
well the same shit happens to me and i'm 21 years old
“How dare they translate onii-Chan into big brother” totally agree 😂😂😂
Who wouldn’t
We all know the correct explanation is Hello Step-Bro...
Us real weeks know that certain words must not be transferred from their primal romaji state
But actually, translating onii-chan does sound really unnatural most of the time just because no one in English uses the term "big brother" in the way Japanese people do. It comes across as stiff and awkward.
Better than translating it into "dude"
Fans Translators were just preparing us for the onslaught that is Monogatari series of HUGE FLASHES of Paragraphs
This comment made me smile.
I have just discovered a new level of how much someone could be right.
Never seen something this true
Yeah I have a fansub of that....
"Laughs in Sayanara Zetubou Sensei audio"
Yeah I've seen that whole franchise, I'm nisemonogatari there's a whole paragraph that appears for like 1 second every episode lol
"not available in your region", yeah that's crunchyroll for me alright.
not if you have *E X P R E S S V P N*
@@asha80801 If you pay for a vpn just abandon crunchyroll and torrent lol
Same. At least as a Spanish speaker I have animflv
The good old days when we used to try to pause the video to read all the translator notes xD
that's my life now watching Monogatari
and now we pause a few milliseconds a few times to read the subs for the text on screen.
@@marcelorojasvargas where to watch with fansubs
With all the crazy references going on and the subs explaining it,I remember finishing one episode of gintama in an hour
Not kidding
Actually, i personally like translator notes. And most if not all professional translation don't use them is the reason i prefer fansubs.
"This video is not available in your country" is a sentence that I see all the time trying to watch anime legally... I've just given up on it... And it's now, in 2020...
Same here. It seems like most of anime is illegal in my country. It's not too expensive - there's not even a price on it.
Well, I don't know how it is on your country but here in Latin America we have some semi-illegal sites that work very well, and are pretty fast and reliable. This thing of being semi-legal is because they don't have property of the anime's copyright but they don't use Crunchy subs either, so they can't be denounced. And you still find some fancy arts in openings and not translated words
That's where the ol reliable vpn comes into play
@@p-y8210 yes, but that's not entirely legal option
@@Arrviasto at least we are actually paying for the streaming service as well as the VPN provider so we don't really feel guilty about it, not getting it for free right?
Shirou: People die if they are killed
Me: Sweet childhood memories
@@Mythos66 what was the true translation or meaning?
You might have a weird medical condition sweating your memories!
You edited the comment, but still left in "sweat"?
@@Thorozak Oof, my bad.
@@amino-acid It's hard for me to not be an idiot.
My favorite fan sub translation was when two characters were having an argument and talking extremely fast and the subs was "I don't have a clue what the !*@$ they're saying".
Anime Character: *says darn in Japanese*
Fansub: F U C K
Also anime character: says shit in japanese
Official sub: "DARN"
Shut up you candy ass f****t
@Daisuke Young ghost stories dub is a masterpiece
Translator's note: "F U C K" means plan
That shit was always so cringey to me because it was so clear that it was just teenagers thinking that swear = more mature/edgy when honestly it just came off as overdoing especially when they would just SHOUT IT SO DAMN LOUD as if I don’t have ears
Gigguk: Fansubs don't really have a place anymore
Me: смеется по русски
Same shit
A lot of czech fans are pissed when names or untranslatable words are rewritten using czech phonetics (ch=č, sh=š, j=dž etc) I just wonder if it is similiar in russian
@@THEJanG12 we use cyrillic so its not really a problem. But people still argue about things like синигами or шинигами.
С*ка Анкорд разлогинься
Русский язык в моём аниму? Нет пути.
..Кроме сабов редбулла к лакистару. Это можно оставить, ибо зело прельстиво.
Remember when Crunchyroll was a pirating site?
Peperidge Farm remembers.
Remember when Crunchyroll wasn't so up it's own ass acting like they are the heroes of justice?
Spiny Slasher ya
@@spinyslasher6586 Crunchyroll is now owned by AT&T's WarnerMedia (parent company of Warner Bros, HBO, CNN, DC Comics, TBS, TNT, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Boomerang and many many others).
@@marjanperveinis8355 Yeah that explains it pretty well 😂😂
Wow cool post, thanks for sharing
As of right now, I only read pirated manga from fan translation groups, and they hold such a special place in my heart. You have the beautiful sniping of manga, where one group translates a chapter or two before the original group translating it could, and the ensuing drama. You have translators admitting that the sentence sounds awkward but that the original Japanese/Korean/Chinese was kinda odd. You have the translators, typesetters and everyone else who worked on it thirsting over a character at the bottom of a panel. It's beautiful.
Maybe one day all of this would be taken away and we'd lose the character and nuance of fan translations altogether. Maybe we won't have memes at the end of the page or characters badly edited to have big butts for laughs. If that day comes, what's the point of even reading manga anymore? Besides the story.
I'm late to your comment but I'll reply either way.
I grew up reading my sisters old Manga and they all were special because the Translaters cared more it felt like. They translated pages upon pages of authors note, added fan discussions and art in the end and even put little reactions under the panels.
I recently read the same manga but a new release (Sailor Moon if you care) and was surprised to see none of that! They removed the pages upon pages in which the author talks about receiving bunny earrings and moving for the millionth time.
Fan Translaters groups keep all that. They translate it to the best of their knowledge, with love and care. I love the little TL/Notes they put in or little comments about what they did in life.
It just feels more connected? Fuzzy? Warm
@@rechtrecht Exactly. Illegal manga translating is an entire culture and everyone has fun doing it. When it's professional and 'clean', it loses all of its personality.
I remember trying to typeset and redraw for a few weeks and boy was it fun. It had a lot of drama too but seeing the translation excel sheet and seeing the amount of TL:s in a spreadsheet and reading them was hella funny. It definitely helped that our translator was pretty funny.
I remember reading a manga (No idea which one now, it's been too long) Where there would be an end panel each chapter with the translator filling in blanks and talking about stuff that was changed from the LN. It was so cool, like a tiny version of essay-kun in every chapter
I love reading the comments they leave and seeing the memes
Gintama 2006: Literally everything had translator notes (Even on crunchyroll I think)
Gintama more recent: Minimum translator notes on legal sites
And they are so important for Gintama! Its probably not even half as funny because we lack the Japanese background
Gintama has alot of references
Except, Gintama TL notes are actually useful cause many people genuinely don't know what the reference is.
I agree Gintama helps me learn Japanese.
Eizouken has translations of all the text on the screen that reminds me a lot of old fansubs.
Anime character: clearly and obviously says "Hi"
Subtitles: "yes"
Smh never trust the subs
Are you confusing the english word "HI" with はい ?
@@ownpj That's the joke
Yeah you're right the anime character clearly says "iye" and the sub says "no" smh subs are so bad never trust them
オーエン·ピーターPeter - you must be fun at parties
@@forsenE
Geez he just didn't catch on, don't be a dick.
"I like my coffee the same way I like my Bible"
-Gigguk 2020
I'm using this later
thick
Without dicks
As soon as I saw that font at the beginning, I thought: "Oh no, noo you didn't!"
"the streaming company accidently realizes that they've just licensed a hentai"
*cough* licensed Redo of Healer.
That would never happen... twice
Once in happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
There are no accidents
They licensed Peter Grill last year as well.
Interspecies Reviewers was a near thing before they pulled out.
"I just wanted to tell people about that time I downloaded Bible Black off Limewire as a teenager"
-Gigguk 2020
line wire, you embecile zoomer
Sounds like a light novel
@@FajrulEmirullah its limewire u fucking idiot
I mean now I know even if I never asked
Rip his childhood innocence
"If you also recognize that sound bite, here's your Senior Discount Card."
Why you gotta call me out like that.
What's it from?
@@ezachleewright2309 Back in the day, lots of anime would have a little obligatory eyecatches where the studio would thank their sponsors, typically after the OP. Since fansubs usually were ripping from broadcasts, these little blurbs were usually included. With the advent of legitimate streaming services, these blurbs are no longer present. But, funnily enough, you can see their remnants on some older anime. For instance, if you watch Bleach on Netflix, after the OP plays, there is a brief freeze frame from the episode with a small bit of the OP playing over it, but no text or explanation. That is because that is where the sponsor blurb USED to be, before it was removed for Netflix's broadcasting.
Right? Fuck you for making me feel old Gigguk.
And there I was, not even realizing this is no longer common in anime... I really have been slacking in my anime watching...
saaaame👵🏻
"The thing people care about is... speed."
I'm sad there wasn't an Initial D clip right after this line.
Probably because the closest thing Initial D had to fancy fan-sub effects was when the subbers put the lyrics for the op on top of another layer of the same lyrics, back in First Stage. Not even sure if that was intentional.
"Initial D" Tutu🎶
5:08 "People die if they are killed"
You got that right Shirou!
Ngl, that SAO op is one of the funniest shit I've ever seen
Ok guys I know that u got it.... Give the sauce or I will be very sad
@@w0lfniisempai865 Google Commei subs, ya they have a website, why, I don't know
@@MohSadWatt thanksssss I got it!!
Gave a me the first good laugh in a long time.
@@MohSadWatt *commie
"This is just artistic cancer"
- Gigguk 2020
Commie subs was the greatest sub group in the history of translation. It is on par with medieval monks who drew pictures of knights fighting giant snails in the middle of their bible translations.
Soviet Wombel
I feel like Gigguk discovering Bible Black is the equivalent to Kira seeing the Mona Lisa's hands for the first time...
spoxx a true masterpiece
Bible Black was full of *iku*
*I got an Erection*
To be honest I didn't even realize the scene had changed so much, that fansubs had kind of gone away. I'm feeling this odd mix of nostalgia and sadness now.
9:06 *The subtitle has more budget than Meliodas vs Escanor*
Yes
*looks back at the stupid looking meliodas where his eyes are opposite to each other and his mouth is wide open saying full counter
manga reader executioner Autism vs Autism
@@pearmint308 8
@@pearmint308 uuu88jujitsu ii
Oh, the prehistoric ages...
-Yellow & colorful subtitles
-Translator notes
-Romanji karaoke lyrics for OP/ED singing
-DivxVideo & Unregistered Hypercam2
-Blockbuster was your Netflix
-TH-cam slideshow AMVs & 3part episode
-TH-cam: "Click 480p for high quality"
-Dub = Saturday cartoon or Adult Swim
-Manga w/ no cleaners & text over kanji
-Double page manga from the scanner 😭
-Huh? What's a light novel?
-Visual novel translations? Good luck.
-Duwang was the norm, not the meme
-Windows XP was *THE* operating system
-Windows Movie Maker = OG Sony Vegas
-2 GB was a good amount of storage
-Emulator games were starting out
(Pray that I don't get killed cuz it looks like I'm a week from retirement.)
Those were the times people want back because the were much simpler - of course they were, we were kids back then. : p
+
absolutely based golden age imo
"Oh yeah I saw a Shinigami with Onii-chan and Senpai before using Kagebunshin No Jutsu and becoming my Nakama"
I U N D E R S T A N D. I N E E D. H E L P.
@@usakenvi nande omae wa baka desu?
Youse Japanlish is almost as bad as me North Americanese, am I rite?!
@@johnnygnoneeded yee
Okay, I'm crawling back under me bridge now. I did like what Karn-San and Vektor-san wrote, Ichiban Nihongo, neh?
@@johnnygnoneeded it's ok, you can come out now, we're all tomodachi here, right?
I also don't understand what ichiban nihongo means
12:09 Thanks for the senior discount :P
As a baby weeb, I loved fansubs' translation notes. I think some of my favorites also had some SDH-friendly details like color-coding character dialog and [noise] captions.
Those karaoke-guide OPs and EDs were so nice. And compared to OP/ED subtitles on official releases nowadays (aka nothing), I really miss them.
Thanks for the nostalgia!
Can you recommend me some old anime with fansubs?
I actually wanted to watch some old animes with fansub
"The era of Fansub is gone by"
Laughs in spanish, portuguese, polish, arab, russian, bahasa, chinese, swahili...
Nigga thinks english is the only thing that exists outside of japanese apparently lol
+ russian too
@@Masterwar15 nah man Arabs have there underground anime community
The dubs tho
@@endergamer.mp4 we have the dubs in Arabic
"I like my coffee like I like my bible."
Smooth.
Agonistic yet Forgiving.
My favorite flavor.
BLACK
"I like my coffee how I like my bible"
microwaved
Is that sh**t came from black bible?
I don't drink coffee.
Gigguk: seems simple (a simp with pimples)
me: this man is a legend
I really appreciate this video. Not enough people know how much love Kaizoku Fansubs went into making One Piece even more engaging. Their in-scene cultural footnotes for anecdotes and Japanese references were instrumental in understanding the context of some scenes. One gag in particular that stands out to me is when Oars Luffy is wandering around Thriller Bark looking for a cannon with child-like glee. He repeats "Taiho" (cannon) over and over until it sounds like "Hotai" (bandage), he stops and confusedly asks "Why am I looking for bandages again?".
So, are we gonna talk about that "kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no tokyo day, oh christmas" or not?
Gets Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou vibes
Oh cultured one
Is it sad that I have nostalgia for that?
@@epser5842, that is not sad but glorious that we experienced that
@epser I felt that sound bite in my bones. The memories...
Now the world of manga fan-translations.
“Just finished one chapter of (insert any manga ever). Time to wait a couple of months for another chapter.”
Berserk fans today.
Exactly this.
"People die when they are killed" - Classic
It's such a classic, it made it into the VN's english patch.
Meanwhile , People who died without being killed :
DOUBT X
I dont suppose anyone has a better translation for what the line could have been? Or perhaps, does anyone know what the original japanese line was so I could read it myself? Lol
Just because you're right doesn't mean you're correct
@@nocturnallight2640 Did a quick google search since I'm not familiar with the scene/series and I don't speak Japanese either, but - from what I could fine anyways - the translation is actually not too far off but quite literal and heavily dependant on context.
To quote somebody else "Context is needed for this. From the visual novel, the line is from Shiro, about surviving wounds that would otherwise be fatal if Avalon had not been inside of him. So when Avalon is removed Shiro remarks that things are the way the should be now (people dying, when you kill them.).
In this context, the phrase makes sense. When made out of context, it does seem silly.
Furthermore, following said phrase, Shiro says "それが当たり前なんだ", which more or less means, "that's only natural.""
9:54 NO this is amazing. I never watched fansubs but this is amazing
I loved translator's notes. They helped me learn just that little bit more about japanese culture.
Yes, I'm glad I got into anime back then because it let me learn enough about Japan and Japanese that I can pick up on so much of the important context that today's "professional" translation skip over.
@@ARCNA442 the professional translators today grew up on fansubs and thus take that info for granted and assume everyone knows lol. I too miss the notes
Detective Conan had some particularly interesting ones, I remember how they explained sensei being used in each context until they they eventually gave up, writing a TL that essentially amounted to "Look, sensei's used for a lot of stuff okay!".
I decided to watch Kino no tabi the other day, and there was a really neat translator note, that explained that the main character would switch between 2 different personal pronouns, a masculine(boku), and a feminine(watashi) one. Furthermore they colored the feminine ones as pink, and the male ones as blue. It was an important detail for the characterization, and even though i already properly knew the difference, i enjoyed the work put on the subs.
@@lourencopopp3444 was it watashi or atashi? watashi is more of a gender nuetral "I" whereas atashi is the feminine form. I took japanese for a number of years when I was young which is where I'm getting this from. either way, cool TL note and great effect with colors, fansubs were great for things like those
edit: sorry if this came off as a negative comment, not it's intent, honestly just curious for the question and I rarely get to use my japanese knowledge so I take opportunities when I get them, sorry about that
Gigguk: "I just wanted to take some time to look back on an era gone by"
Me: *Laughs in Pokemon (and spanish translations)*
man i read your comment the moment gigguk said it
Lmao I love the old school Spanish dubbed DBZ, it seems like it's almost all done by the same voice actor.
5:44 and when they switch the translators between episodes. So one time it is translated, one time it is explained and one time keywords are just left in without any reasoning.
It was not even consistent within a single series
:pours one out for the many translators destroyed by series like Child's Toy [Kodomo no Omocha]:
7:39
One Piece Opening 13 - One Day (subbed by Yibis)
Machine Doll is Unbreakable Ending - Maware! Setsugetsuka (subbed by FFF)
I legitimately miss the animated attack names in One Piece.
The most recent fan sub I needed to watch was Revue Starlight since the official subs were notoriously bad and didn't translate the song lyrics in a show about musical theatre. It totally brought me back and reminded me of some of the little things some translators do that I actually appreciate.
And they color coded the lyrics for each character. Miss that kinda shit
@zirath ashe Lol, it's the thought that matters!
@@sizzl75 YES! It really made a difference. I loved when they would do a duet, and the lyrics would be split between the colours for the two characters.
@@MomentaiKing really help for the Nana vs Hikari fight for me. Their singing voices sounded just a tad bit too similar to differentiate the first time
_"It's just Artistic Cancer"_
-Gigguk 2020
"I'm the cofounder of Dattebayo..."
Did that guy just identify himself on camera as a member of a group that could be sued for piracy?
Its kind of like when rappers say "i do drugs yo."
At a con back then? Sure. Heck, TFS hosted a panel at last year's AWA, right before Funimation's.
Maybe it is long enough ago to not get sued?? Forgot the world...
Statuete of limitations?
YES YES HE DID
3:00 I'm still not sure if "Even electronic brain pancake crystal elderly" is a fan translator suffering a stroke or just the start of a normal Ghost in the Shell sentence.
"Fansubs don't really have a place anymore..."
Heh,
*cries in jojo copyright*
SUTIKIIIIIII-
oh wait sorry
ZIPPERRRRR MAN!
Big Sad
Sad
Seriously, if anyone watches the official subs of Jojo, they're retarded.
No one watches JoJo legally
Not even on Netflix
Am I in the wrong for thinking when the girl was saying "I'm not scared!" and the camera rotated around her, yet her subtitles stayed in front of her, that was pretty damn cool.
Yet seeing Kirito pinwheeling his song subtitles had me hollering 🤣
The Other Dude Pretty sure that was the typesetter Tai who did that. He taught me the basics of motion tracking way back in the day with adobe AE and Mocha Pro. He was a very good typesetter.
@@flipboy420 you guys are doing God's job out there, thank you!
The girl is kirisaki from Nisekoi
you are not wrong for thinking like that, you are wrong for saying "the girl", it's Chitoge...
@@malikhaidar sorry but I don't mean to disrespect her its just that I'm kinda team Onodera
I actually miss the Translator's Note. I learnt a lot of stuff about Japan's culture with it. Even tho most of the time it didn't make sense to me as a child.
Today's subs kinda just directly translates an expression or a word without really making emphasis on the meaning or the origin of them.
Most of us veterans know what we know nowadays thanks to these TNs and don't find the Japanese culture as something mysterious or strange (ex. the rubbing back thingy while taking a shower, the cherry blossom trees, the fireworks festivals and the Yukata clothes, the taking off the shoes, and many more), but newbies might have a tough time trying to understand and adapt to it.
Plus my ability to read subs greatly improved thanks to them. Having to read all that stuff in a short manner of time. Yeet my eyes out.
Edit: had to change some words for better understanding.
are you referring to washing someones back with one's tits? cause if you are, is there a precedent for that and can you explain it? if not pretend im not here lol
That's exactly what helped me improve my understanding of English a lot, I watched Adventure Time with translator's notes lol
When it's done right, it's definitely a plus
bruh, this tbh
I mean. That's localisation vs translation right?
One is just translating word by word and the other tries to find culturally similar concepts that might not be direct translations, but similar in meaning.
Like mediating a figure of speech.
There are mangas/light novels that I stopped reading because the original fan-subbers were replaced, and I was already spoilt. Some of those were real gems.
As an aside, even with how far the industry has gone for anime, fan-subs and scanlations are still critical for many mangas, light novels, and visual novels.
My favorite manga is Usotoki Rhetoric. I probably never would have touched Sakura Taisen if it weren't for the fan translation of the 1996 game. Major franchises have the resources to fund translations to cash in on international revenue, but there's a ton of creators without that kind of leeway. Fan translators are truly a godsend.
There actually is a surprisingly big amount of turkish fansubbing groups still keeping the art alive for us
Its also a thing in Greater China, both Taiwan and China has huge fansub and translator community, sometimes a group can be both working on fansub and manga and hentai and comic and manhwa and of course, doujins, most pf them had at least one member living in Japan and keep supplying the group with fresh doujin/manga, and the funny thing is, because Japanese yakuza called themselves XX groups, so there was a police "crackdown" on Chinese translation groups because they thought the word group, wtitten in Kanji/Hazi referred to some new yakuza clans, and they almost lost the source supplier because of this.
Idk why Gigguk said that fansubbing is dead in this video. Honestly? I still watch fan subs to this day just because of the personality in them
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"Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no Tokyo day, oh Christmas!"
kinda nostalgic idk
@Kizuchi Art Crunchyroll took this from us...
Bandai
The first Japanese sentence I learned.
I used to listen that every day, my God time goes so fast
I only recently got into anime, but after seeing the quality that can be achieved - I watch Fansubs whenever I can find one. When done right - they’re more immersive than normal subtitling. There’s nothing more satisfying than finding a quality fansub where you genuinely can’t tell if something is a subtitle or not.
That’s the key - make subs so _unobtrusive_ that the viewer forgets they’re seeing subtitles to begin with.
Agreed. I have several shows that are fansubbed and the sub quality and layout is objectively better than the official.
Yep same. Even tho they don't get paid as do crunchyroll or funimation subbers, they don't have deadlines and actually take care in wording/quality. For example Gate or Girls und Panzer are on other level in translation. Also the most recent one that comes to mind is Eizouken. GJM did god's work with that typesetting, holy shit
Care to share some good fansub names?
@@Reverae you could use fansubdb(dot)com is you want to know certain shows that being fansubbed atm
It helps when it's all just work out of passion and one's own time. The problem is that official subs are a market product that priorities speed, convenience and "professionalism" over quality these days. It's why localization is so rampant and translator notes are a dead concept these days. Professional translators (especially in the video-game space) seem to treat their audience like they'll have an allergic reaction anything remotely Japanese thrown in these days. I really miss the wild west days of fansubs.
it's been at least 13 years since I've watched one piece and I never realised those were fansubs. The attack stylized subs felt so natural to me that I can't ever imagine watching one piece now without them. I'm barely 20 and I get given a senior citizen card smh.
As long as JoJo names keep getting "localized", fansubs will always have a place
yeah, like lil bomber (aerosmith)
Fluff and Damp stole your translation
Cant wait for D4C
@@lordfaust023 DIMES 4 CRIMES, BABY
Some-stuff for the win
I miss my 40 second splash screens explaining how nakama was the most important word in human history and how no word in the English language can come close being a one to one translation.
5 minutes later. " 'You are my Nakama' NOTE: NAKAMA = FRIEND"
Yeah, Some fansubs translated Nakama as comrade,
Nakama generally means "someone one is close with and with whom one does something together". That could be a friend, comrade or crewmate. Normally, like all other instances of the word in other shows, it gets translated based on context, as it should. But because of fansubs, the One Piece fandom sees it as something more special or impactful than it is.
@@dankwaifu2093 so acquaintance?
@Mr Blooper If that fits the context of how it's used, then yeah, I suppose. The point is, the word has a bit of a broad meaning in English, so you should pay attention to the circumstances surrounding where it's used when translating. It's not cut and dry. If the meaning of how it's used comes across without literally leaving 'nakama' there like a 2000s gratuitous Japanese fansub, things should be fine.
@@dankwaifu2093 Unless Japan considers "nakama" and "friend"/"best friend"/"acquaintance"/etc. to be different things, I feel like "nakama" (based on how you defined it) could be translated to something like "friends" and the meaning wouldn't be lost.
“Kono band gummy wa, grandma sponsor no Tokyo day, oh Christmas!”
Gigguk 2020
I almost died at that part xD
Too funny lol
He didn't come up with it though, I saw it way back in 2018 in one of Hich Score Girl episodes..
Oh kurisimazu
Oh man, I remember hearing that so many times and never have I come across such a beautiful translation of it. Thank you
nihonngo jouzu desune
10:09 you can just tell, how late it is, when whoever was doing the subtitles finally finished it, and how they stretched after finishing the work, and then went to sleep i love it
Gigguk: Fansubs don't really have a place anymore
Me: *laughs in tokusatsu*
supersamurai9000 ¿Can we get a fansub translation for tokusatsu?
Except for abridged series
I feel that.
One time I watch a fan sub of gridman the Studio Trigger anime and at the part where the Op play they replace for one ep with a Ultraman Tiga op
If anything proved fansubs are still relevant it's interspecies reviewers.
That said, those fansubs were just as terrible as back when Naruto was first fansubbed. If not worse.
Fansubs paved the path for anime today
Respect.
Fansubs walked so kissanime could run 😤
@@icetigeryurio2721 facts
@@icetigeryurio2721 and that's the facts
Fansub of Myself;Yourself had "Translator Note: She spoke too fast for us to understand.".
*QUALITY CONTENT*
The fact that I remember that means that I still have some suicidal feelings... You should've got it by now.
I'm so, so glad that I could take part of the world of anime fan subs when I was growing up. I think I learned some of my first jp words through translator's notes and untranslateable words 🤣
When my dad and I saw subtitled "Weathering With You" in the theater, he asked me what "senpai" meant, since it was left untranslated. I took knowing what "senpai" meant for granted.
Senpai is one of those things that are an utter nightmare to translate. As a word, it has a very direct translation, but said english equivalents are practically never used the way senpai is. Imagine someone actually calling someone else "senior" or "upperclassman". You can elect to ignore it, but then sometimes you run into a mess when the show actually decides to make the honorifics plot-relevant. You can just leave it in, but then you alienate the casuals who don't actually know what a senpai is (and if you're dubbing then it also sounds mighty awkward). That's how you end up with TL notes, sometimes they're still the way to go.
@@ExeloMinish Like the dub of K-On. Ugghhhh.
Weathering with you is a great film
@@ExeloMinish "Senpai is one of those things that are an utter nightmare to translate."
That's why you should never force the translation of things that are simply untranslatable. And it's not bad or unprofessional. I mean, all these words like sushi, katana, tsunami etc in English are now considered as correct English, because someone in past was sane enough for not forcing the translation.
I remember those days. The time before livewire even. When torrents didn't even exist. Those were the days you had to really train your google skills.
No AltaVista for you eh?
jeez man i didn't know you were that old of an anime fan :O
@@SloanTheOtaku Sloan... how could you call me out like this? But yes, I was in the same age of Gigguk but I was burning those cheap ass CD-Roms. Not to sell! But hard drives were measured in megabytes back then, so you'd be lucky to store one full series on your computer at a time.
Well don't lots donghuas have fansubs right now?
I still remember when Napster was Windows only. I legit used to run SoftWindows 95 on my Mac, just to download MP3s. As for search, I was an Excite and Yahoo person mostly, but I also recall using Lycos way, way back, when my entire town had all of just two publicly reservable internet connected PCs in the city hall building. Getting the 486 was always preferred, over the 386.
Shoutout to fan subs who karaoke-ed the openings and endings with little animations.
Fansubs were the bread and blood of my teens.
They helped me to practise my english, to understand Japanese culture and helped me to even keep up with the conversations in the anime.
Seriously when you have like 6 random school-girls rampaging at one conversation, how do you know who says what? -> FANSUBS!!! Just make the text in the colour of the hair of the person speaking... BRILIANT !!! (ehm...Shuffle!.. ehm...)
Thanks you Fansubs...I will never forget...
Fansubs are still alive through manga and doujins.
fansubs for anime is still alive in anywhere except english speaking countries
@@Chrono-bo4zc not really, crunchyroll got international, and now is one of the main simulcast for french and spanish speakers. Like gigguk said, there's still some fansub work but its rare.
Ex :for french (i know because i am), animes are distributed by three major plateform Crunchyroll, ADN and Wakanim. These three share 90 to 100% of the licences each season.
Also through obscure anime, like the one my pfp is from
@@abba5122 This. Also due to the massive shitfest that is international licencing, even if I were to go with crunchyroll, there's a good chance a majority of what I'd wanna watch wouldn't be available in my area anyway. Region locks are a fucking cancer that we should've been over and done with when it stopped being a thing in console gaming.
@@abba5122 just watch in english, smh
Fansubs are only dead in the English speaking part of the fandom,they're still thriving elsewhere !!! Just today I watched the latest one piece episode fansubbed in Italian ✌
Also why the hell is Bible Black such a universal experience??
But are those fansubs derived from Japanese or English? Because there used to be Dutch fansubs as well but they were a bad translation of awful English fansubs.
Official Dutch subs were also terrible! Most dvd's came from a Belgian company called Kazé. Since Belgium is a bilangual country and because of Benelux, these dvd's came with Dutch subs and could be bought on a company website and be delivered to your home. Kazé was clearly from Wallonia( the French speaking part of Belgium) and the subs were also made by a Walloon whose Dutch was awful!
The subs were horrible with lots of spelling and grammar mistakes! It gave the impression that Dutch subs were an obligation of Federal Belgium language laws to produce the dvd. It was clear that the translator had dropped Dutch as a second language in 8 th grade.
Even if the subs were passable it was because the translator had a good grasp of Dutch and just translated from the French dub...
Even on Netflix , the Dutch subs are usually a translation from a translation in the case for anime. Second-hand translation is what I call it. Most of the time they use English, I even saw one that used French..
@@ywee3980 Mmmmh the Italian subs are usually of very good quality both fantranslated or not,I've been deep into the English community for years so the fansubbed op episode was an exception to the "rule" and LET ME TELL YOU...seeing a translator note after all these years made me remember why I love fansubs over everything else
I honestly can't tell you if they use the English translation,I know some groups do,but the Italian community has a lot of ppl that understand japanese so sometimes it gets translated from the source,I've rarely seen grammatically incorrect subs though,maybe they weren't the best translation,but without knowing the language you wouldn't notice
Edit:don't quote me on this,but I'm pretty sure that every other language always has a tooth to pick about One Piece English translation,so I'm 90% sure it was done from Japanese
Fansubs are also going as strong as they've always been here in Brazil
The real question we should be asking is: why didn't Bible Black get an oscar?
And to be honest sometimes legit subs are not that good, or suffer from some basic problems that should not exist. For example, the english subtitles for the Blu-Ray release of GiTS are beyond atrocious. "That body has as much device for brain science as it can hold." WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? The movie is significantly better with fansubs.
Why is everyone ignoring the "Kono band gummy wa" etc ending,when it was every single ripped episode's actual opening and ending back then?(I could actually hear the actual thing after a couple of years )
Oh the good ol'days...
guran no sponsaa
i love that woman's voice omG
@@akulahirpada1993 de o okuri shimasu
14:09 pls where is this song from
grandma sponsor woman stans unite
I watched all of mermaid melody on TH-cam when I was 11, it was a great time. I loved singing along to the songs, something I still miss in regular subs - just let me read romaji for openings and endings so I can sing along.