Thanx for the shout-out..Glad you covered most of the ways to achieve this as my way might not work for everyone. Excellent video. Thanx for the preview!:-) Glad to see you finally delving into this:-)
Evil wurst giving away all the secrets! Have watched budsatawny videos for months and glad he's getting some much deserved exposure, just wish it wasn't at the expense of everyone knowing now!
I’m actually really greatful for this, ive always watched budsatawny’s vids for the enjoyment of seeing his creative but i never quite understood it myself, now you’ve fixed that!
@@bladesmith5927 sadly, yes. But you could place foundations blocking the foundation at which the wall stack is on to make the raid a little bit harder :)
Wow, thank you for this great information! Having offset walls with half walls and low walls also create great opportunities for firing slits - it always bogged me to have the slit either too low or too high to really use this technique for shooting floors to my satisfaction. Thanks to all the contributors including you, this has changed! I really wonder what kind of possibilities may arise for stacked shooting floors with the combination of floor & wall height differences and gaps, but these come to my mind: Having the capability to focus fire from multiple positions (floors - heigth) through one gap to safely cover an area could create multiple obstacles close to the defender where the attackers bullet has to pass by in order to successfully hit the shooter. It also allows for the possibility to be combined with covering darkness (shooting floor) & blinding light (flashlight turrets & search lights) to further increase its effectiveness. Being deep inside a shooting floor even during the day is increasing the difficulty to get hit drastically. There are further options to create advanced masked firing positions to hide behind, like using wooden signs, armored doors, carpets, bear skins or well known second line embrasures right behind the multi level gap or just long distances between tight floors or gaps. I wonder what this does with turret placement... Like stacked turrets with different ammo types being firet from the same direction at one target - incendiary shotgun shells for spread of fire & incendiary 5,56 or 9mm for precision damage, forcing you to face multiple angry turrets when trying to fire at them through multiple gaps. It also allows turrets to cover an area inside the core from the outside through such gaps, while sitting on an external tc, creating nasty surprises even in deeper layers. You can place a turret between floor layers into a far away position while forcing movement from different elevations along this deadly gap, like in the frustrator loot rooms, making very hard to kill turrets which force raiders to attack a completely different and maybe even "useless" part of the base, to be able to destroy that deeply hidden turret effectively, because they are way out of range of any possible splash damage. Example: The turret could be in a half-wall high "pocket" firing through a narrower floors gap at crouching headshot heigth - covering a floor hatch which might look like an easy way to go up / down, while out of harms way requiring a lot more boom... It can also cover the inner shooting floor this way, making them very hard to use for the enemy without going nuts on their boom again. If people also manage to place unlootable boxes between multiple armored floors, while still accessible from the top one where they walk on, also increasing quality of life by putting boxes out of the way - of course nastily covered by hidden turrets, just in case raiders make the effort... I will go completely nuts. This opens up so many crazy possibilities, putting a whole new complexity level into base designs. I really hope that the devs finally start embracing the creativity of the community, instead of looking for new ways to take away our options like they did with wall stacking and upkeep.
I just want to say that your channel has become such a big part of my Rust experience, without it and all of your amazing base designs and teachings I honestly doubt I would have kept playing, but thanks to you I was able to learn so much, which gave me the chance to actually hold my own against much more experienced players, so big thanks to you for doing what you do best ❤️❤️❤️ A humble solo player
Oh Hell, Hi Congra, did not know you made content, I don't use the same steam name as youtube but i killed you 3 times and raided you on Rustocalypse last week xD
Now if only I had something better than a potato to game on. Havnt been on in a loong while but your channel keeps me updated. Even tho I can't play I still enjoy your uploads. My dude, great work.
So I watched, it's really tricky to start but you can get the method down pretty well. To expand on Evil's point to make it that little bit easier for you, when placing the second foundation, the right side of the blue support (The one that over laps the first foundation) Needs to be just touching the original support on the first foundation, then to get the height right, have a friend stand next to the foundation for you, you should be looking at his knee when you want to place! That's how you fit 2 stacks. Hope it helps, awesome video man!
Thanks! To be fair, all the methods shown that are already outdated. I would recommend to use the method that I show in the beginning of this video th-cam.com/video/oEkFJjVB7io/w-d-xo.html
@@daavide7157 idk if it is this techique or not but I am pretty sure he does have this kind of peaks Evil show with the triangles.. Now, if it was his "clan base" or not idk..
Been waiting for this one. I been watching buds for a while now and saw you reference his channel in one of your videos before. I had a feeling you'd feature his ideas soon enough :)
One easy way to implement this is to stack floor grills on top of a furnace base. Just got done making a design using this method, works well. Just be careful when placing the walls, stacking them to close won't allow you to place both floor grills.
This will lead to a wonderful measure of anarchy! I do hope to see footage of raids on these in the wild! This video shows a truly pragmatic approach to security.
@@EvilWurst i was expecting the wall to fall with the foundation but when i realised it's not gonna happen, i was like "wait what you could do this the whole time?"
I watched this video, personally couldn't figure out what was really going on after a little testing myself, kinda got it and next I knew I had a triple stacked roof. Crazy man
Can we see how splash damage (if any) affects these double ceilings? They sounds incredibly powerful, but such proximity I feel would mean they still take damage when being rocketed or incendi?
Evil Wurst: this next method will help you even if you have the shakiest of hands Me: *getting excited* Me: *following the steps* Me: still failing I’m a lost cause 😢
Wait freehand has been a thing for 4 years. My smooth brain10 years of pvp mind only recently wrinkled enough to explore other bases besides 2x1 and 2x2. This is crazy. Tysm
@evil worst the original idea for making the triangles that you stand infrint of with the low walls is Tyrone not rlly know but is in builders sanctuary instead of having low walls he had those high foundations nice vid too love to see some base designs with this
I was wondering if you had known about that yet or if you just were trying to keep it under your hat LOL. Thanks for making the video on that for the people who were not in the know. My dude.
I knew about that concept since mid last year via Budsatawny and Lord Desert. I had different priorities, so I did not explore it in detail until Feb this year
@@EvilWurst you are the great of the Great's brother. Definitely the bases you put up since then are more useful to the majority of the roots of the hardcore rust-ers who watch your video, and I agree with you. This is good stuff to know but there were much more important builds that were basic need to know than this that you've shared. Keep up the good work bro. Thank you for all your knowledge getting dropped on all these mofos.
yep, buds is a building genius savant! good vid, as always... imma typing weird coz i';m half asleep - peace love n mung beans all. * waves to budsatawny * 👍 'd #OldManPaxus Rating: ★★★ ½
Look mom it's me! Hahaha. Well, it's not just "Between two foundation". Rust checks if the new foundation is too close to a wall. Thus making it color red (not able to place foundation). Essentially, this takes advantage of Rust's misaligned foundation checking mechanism. Only allowing you to place the perfect foundation placement.
only if the walls are overlapping will it say that, or the walls not being centered will also give such an error. There is little wiggle room while doing this.
I build a lot on sandbox servers and mess around looking for exploits. I don't like to go public with stuff though because then it gets patched so much quicker. Spend some time on a sandbox trying to break stuff and usually after some time you can find something useful. Lag is a tool often over looked by many that can allow people to bypass certain rules of the game.
another way is to build a hexagon and build one layer out from it. delete the inner hex and place an offset tile in the middle. this creates a core that can be used to annoy raiders as they need to blow their way into it, destroying every tc they find to be able to place their own down. i think of it as a trojan tc because it is hidden on it's own. is not connecting any other tile and can easily be dismissed as just honeycomb
I've tried this with the guiding walls for half an hour watching the video in slow mode with all the helps and can't figure it out deadass already punched my monitor, I got 1k hours and I've never gotten this to work ever
I don’t really understand the point of the example you showed where they have built a ring of raised foundations around an existing build. Wouldn’t it just be cheaper to throw honeycomb on the roof?
My man, Evil Wurst, in English, the word "innovative" is pronounced "in-no-vait-iv", not "in- nov-i-tive" as you have been using it for a while. Thanks for the upload and so glad to have you back!
200 I.Q. Flippers slow effect stacks with metal plate effects for a Suuuuuuuuuuuper slow movement. (I certainly dont know this due to frustration in the learning curve around freehand foundation placement.
this is great thx for the video but it hard hard. anyway i was just wondering if u can design a small solo duo trio base with 360 turrets and unlootable loot rooms plz. i have done my fair bit of designing but it always get so expensive
@@EvilWurst Because you can only connect one roof to the floor, I cannot seem to connect them any further than one square or triangle in any direction. Only from the 3 different levels you marked out by crouching, they just break off from stability. I guess a 4x4 that Budsatswani made is the limit.
![Phoenix V3 - Floor-Stacked RUST Solo/Duo/Trio Base | 27 Rockets to TC [UPDATE WARNING]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oEkFJjVB7io/mqdefault.jpg)
![Phoenix V3 - Floor-Stacked RUST Solo/Duo/Trio Base | 27 Rockets to TC [UPDATE WARNING]](/img/tr.png)
Thanx for the shout-out..Glad you covered most of the ways to achieve this as my way might not work for everyone. Excellent video. Thanx for the preview!:-) Glad to see you finally delving into this:-)
You doing gods work my smooth voiced dude :P
read that in his voice...
Buds you’re the man! You have the voice of God.
Thanks for taking the time to bring me up to speed!
Evil wurst giving away all the secrets! Have watched budsatawny videos for months and glad he's getting some much deserved exposure, just wish it wasn't at the expense of everyone knowing now!
Hopefully we see more base designs of people using this!
Yes, definitely!
Love your videos dude..
Patiently waiting for the next track 🙃
This alone would make a better defense for your trap base, extra tender.
Good luck using it in the future wipes, love your videos
I’m actually really greatful for this, ive always watched budsatawny’s vids for the enjoyment of seeing his creative but i never quite understood it myself, now you’ve fixed that!
Yep, without all those little tricks, it's super difficult to reproduce most of his crazy ideas
Watching this from my 2x2
*With an airlock of course!
Keeping yourself safe!! I am proud of you :D
“This 3x3 should be easy to raid!” *3x3 has 5 ceiling and wall stacks*
Wouldn't it be easier to blow up the base at that point?
@@bladesmith5927 sadly, yes. But you could place foundations blocking the foundation at which the wall stack is on to make the raid a little bit harder :)
cant wait to see what insane bases can be built with this
whoever thought flippers was going to be a base building essential.
Wow, thank you for this great information!
Having offset walls with half walls and low walls also create great opportunities for firing slits - it always bogged me to have the slit either too low or too high to really use this technique for shooting floors to my satisfaction.
Thanks to all the contributors including you, this has changed!
I really wonder what kind of possibilities may arise for stacked shooting floors with the combination of floor & wall height differences and gaps, but these come to my mind:
Having the capability to focus fire from multiple positions (floors - heigth) through one gap to safely cover an area could create multiple obstacles close to the defender where the attackers bullet has to pass by in order to successfully hit the shooter.
It also allows for the possibility to be combined with covering darkness (shooting floor) & blinding light (flashlight turrets & search lights) to further increase its effectiveness.
Being deep inside a shooting floor even during the day is increasing the difficulty to get hit drastically.
There are further options to create advanced masked firing positions to hide behind, like using wooden signs, armored doors, carpets, bear skins or well known second line embrasures right behind the multi level gap or just long distances between tight floors or gaps.
I wonder what this does with turret placement...
Like stacked turrets with different ammo types being firet from the same direction at one target - incendiary shotgun shells for spread of fire & incendiary 5,56 or 9mm for precision damage, forcing you to face multiple angry turrets when trying to fire at them through multiple gaps.
It also allows turrets to cover an area inside the core from the outside through such gaps, while sitting on an external tc, creating nasty surprises even in deeper layers.
You can place a turret between floor layers into a far away position while forcing movement from different elevations along this deadly gap, like in the frustrator loot rooms, making very hard to kill turrets which force raiders to attack a completely different and maybe even "useless" part of the base, to be able to destroy that deeply hidden turret effectively, because they are way out of range of any possible splash damage.
Example:
The turret could be in a half-wall high "pocket" firing through a narrower floors gap at crouching headshot heigth - covering a floor hatch which might look like an easy way to go up / down, while out of harms way requiring a lot more boom...
It can also cover the inner shooting floor this way, making them very hard to use for the enemy without going nuts on their boom again.
If people also manage to place unlootable boxes between multiple armored floors, while still accessible from the top one where they walk on, also increasing quality of life by putting boxes out of the way - of course nastily covered by hidden turrets, just in case raiders make the effort... I will go completely nuts.
This opens up so many crazy possibilities, putting a whole new complexity level into base designs.
I really hope that the devs finally start embracing the creativity of the community, instead of looking for new ways to take away our options like they did with wall stacking and upkeep.
Bro this video just opened my mind with so many ideas and designs
ai blyat dont u all start doing this now !
Good to see the rust building godfather getting the highlight he totally deserves, Legend, you rule Bud. Great vid Wurst, awesome explanations!!
I just want to say that your channel has become such a big part of my Rust experience, without it and all of your amazing base designs and teachings I honestly doubt I would have kept playing, but thanks to you I was able to learn so much, which gave me the chance to actually hold my own against much more experienced players, so big thanks to you for doing what you do best ❤️❤️❤️
A humble solo player
Dude I’ve been milking budsatawny’s channel for months now for my base designs and exploits cuz no one knows bout them but u helping it blow up :/
bruh
love that you always shout out smaller channels, shows your humility :)
Thank you, it's very kind of you to point that out!
Nice! I was just telling a friend the other day they need to check out Budsatawny's channel. Glad that dude is getting some well deserved recognition!
I play in a base based on budsatawny's method. I made a build video of the bunker section last week. Glad to see his video getting some attention.
Oh Hell, Hi Congra, did not know you made content, I don't use the same steam name as youtube but i killed you 3 times and raided you on Rustocalypse last week xD
@@christor2907 oh hi, we were raided 3 times last week. We're you the guys who came through the roof or through foundations?
Now if only I had something better than a potato to game on. Havnt been on in a loong while but your channel keeps me updated. Even tho I can't play I still enjoy your uploads. My dude, great work.
So I watched, it's really tricky to start but you can get the method down pretty well.
To expand on Evil's point to make it that little bit easier for you, when placing the second foundation, the right side of the blue support (The one that over laps the first foundation) Needs to be just touching the original support on the first foundation, then to get the height right, have a friend stand next to the foundation for you, you should be looking at his knee when you want to place! That's how you fit 2 stacks.
Hope it helps, awesome video man!
Thanks! To be fair, all the methods shown that are already outdated. I would recommend to use the method that I show in the beginning of this video th-cam.com/video/oEkFJjVB7io/w-d-xo.html
Evil Wurst thanks man! I’ll take a look congrats on being a father🥳
this is gonna be OP. hope to become smart enough one day to actually use it in a base design haha
Have you seen alone in Tokyo’s clan base? He uses this method
No he doesn't
I have seen his base video, yes
@@daavide7157 he does
@@rawG3NCO he is only using external tcs to build parts of the base, not putting free hands foundation.... Do u even play the watch him?
@@daavide7157 idk if it is this techique or not but I am pretty sure he does have this kind of peaks Evil show with the triangles.. Now, if it was his "clan base" or not idk..
I was expecting this. Thanks dude.
Been waiting for this one. I been watching buds for a while now and saw you reference his channel in one of your videos before. I had a feeling you'd feature his ideas soon enough :)
Yes, he absolutely deserves that!
One easy way to implement this is to stack floor grills on top of a furnace base. Just got done making a design using this method, works well. Just be careful when placing the walls, stacking them to close won't allow you to place both floor grills.
This will lead to a wonderful measure of anarchy! I do hope to see footage of raids on these in the wild! This video shows a truly pragmatic approach to security.
I've dreaded the day this becomes mainstream ever since seeing bud. Looks like foundy wiping is back on the menu boys
Bro I feel like I never knew how to build before I came to ur channel. Another great video, good job ! :)
when you destroyed that stacked foundation and the offset wall left floating connected to the normal one my jaw dropped down onto the floor lol
Oh man, I am delighted to hear that the video had such an effect :)
@@EvilWurst i was expecting the wall to fall with the foundation but when i realised it's not gonna happen, i was like "wait what you could do this the whole time?"
I watched this video, personally couldn't figure out what was really going on after a little testing myself, kinda got it and next I knew I had a triple stacked roof. Crazy man
LOL, great to hear!
on another level. Danke Wurst!
Can we see how splash damage (if any) affects these double ceilings? They sounds incredibly powerful, but such proximity I feel would mean they still take damage when being rocketed or incendi?
now thats a relevant question.. any1? I also wana know
No splash through the floors
Evil Wurst: this next method will help you even if you have the shakiest of hands
Me: *getting excited*
Me: *following the steps*
Me: still failing
I’m a lost cause 😢
Wait freehand has been a thing for 4 years. My smooth brain10 years of pvp mind only recently wrinkled enough to explore other bases besides 2x1 and 2x2. This is crazy. Tysm
Now I can't imagine frustrator X updated with this method. #NewMeta
@evil worst the original idea for making the triangles that you stand infrint of with the low walls is Tyrone not rlly know but is in builders sanctuary instead of having low walls he had those high foundations nice vid too love to see some base designs with this
Did Tyrone make a video or (timestamped!) screenshot that could serve as evidence?
In that case, I'd link his work as well
INSANE EXPLOIT HERE
I just spent all night putting all these comcepts into one big base build including the bunker, peakdowns, and roof stacked.
Happy to hear you found this video inspiring!
Its pretty op tbh
Man, this is so good ♡.♥
I was wondering if you had known about that yet or if you just were trying to keep it under your hat LOL. Thanks for making the video on that for the people who were not in the know. My dude.
I knew about that concept since mid last year via Budsatawny and Lord Desert. I had different priorities, so I did not explore it in detail until Feb this year
@@EvilWurst you are the great of the Great's brother. Definitely the bases you put up since then are more useful to the majority of the roots of the hardcore rust-ers who watch your video, and I agree with you. This is good stuff to know but there were much more important builds that were basic need to know than this that you've shared. Keep up the good work bro. Thank you for all your knowledge getting dropped on all these mofos.
Thx for the help! Wanted to build a floor stacking base but didnt want to try cuz i was scared to f up. Great video
yep, buds is a building genius savant!
good vid, as always... imma typing weird coz i';m half asleep - peace love n mung beans all. * waves to budsatawny * 👍 'd
#OldManPaxus Rating: ★★★ ½
Waves back at my bud from "Down Under"
Look mom it's me! Hahaha.
Well, it's not just "Between two foundation". Rust checks if the new foundation is too close to a wall. Thus making it color red (not able to place foundation). Essentially, this takes advantage of Rust's misaligned foundation checking mechanism. Only allowing you to place the perfect foundation placement.
Are you on my Discord? If yes, please send me a pm
@@EvilWurst I didnt know u had discord. Im joining now
Happy Paddy's day wurst love your vids been difficult to find peeps to test this out with but solo runs are nice
Happy Paddy's Day!
Thank you for the shoutout!!
Well deserved!
Thank you! Seems soon we'll see a new versions of your popular bases or even new. Hope you will make the video before global wipe. ^^
I have no plans so far :|
@@EvilWurst It's ok, I still have Grand Frustrator for me :)
Corona does all evil accept get us lots of rust content :o love you sausage man
Wait doesnt it supppsed to say too close to another building since they are not connected?
only if the walls are overlapping will it say that, or the walls not being centered will also give such an error. There is little wiggle room while doing this.
Omg this is great
I build a lot on sandbox servers and mess around looking for exploits. I don't like to go public with stuff though because then it gets patched so much quicker. Spend some time on a sandbox trying to break stuff and usually after some time you can find something useful. Lag is a tool often over looked by many that can allow people to bypass certain rules of the game.
another way is to build a hexagon and build one layer out from it. delete the inner hex and place an offset tile in the middle. this creates a core that can be used to annoy raiders as they need to blow their way into it, destroying every tc they find to be able to place their own down. i think of it as a trojan tc because it is hidden on it's own. is not connecting any other tile and can easily be dismissed as just honeycomb
awesome video, im gonna try to make a base design with this
I've tried this with the guiding walls for half an hour watching the video in slow mode with all the helps and can't figure it out deadass already punched my monitor, I got 1k hours and I've never gotten this to work ever
man,i would definately make a base if you put wall stacking into it hahaha what would be sick!!
Maybe make a video on how to floor stack in a cave (if possible)
You should make an insane bunker that’s small but protected by multiple sheet metal walls or ceilings from all sides
I don’t really understand the point of the example you showed where they have built a ring of raised foundations around an existing build. Wouldn’t it just be cheaper to throw honeycomb on the roof?
This is great content
Love me some budsatawny
It seems so obvious you would think we would figure this out way earlier
Nutleaf i swear a bunch of people already do this
Yes, as far as I know, this has been a thing since mid 2019
@@tokage933 I know but average players who just make an 2x2 and add triangles to it don't have a clue about this building technique.
My man, Evil Wurst, in English, the word "innovative" is pronounced "in-no-vait-iv", not "in- nov-i-tive" as you have been using it for a while.
Thanks for the upload and so glad to have you back!
Thanks, I'll double check with a native speaker to learn the proper pronunciation.
@@EvilWurst leveling up that speech skill IRL +1
Can you do a tutorial on the floor stacked bunker base please?
I was under the impression it was 12 not eight , good to know thank you.
U can
Also use
It for a three layer loot room with 9 large boxes
is it true that they patched this now?
This is going to get changed, stacking 3 sheet metal roofs and double sheet metal walls in a 2x2 w/ a few garage doors makes a 2x2 into a hellish raid
oh are you changing it yourself then?
Love ur Vid
Thanks for shout out
You're welcome. Do you have a YT channel too which I could link instead of a streamable?
Evil Wurst unfortunately i can not upload onto youtube my internet is too bad lol
Floor stacking is back? *Rust 2017 intensifies*
Decreasing FoV also can help placing the blocks.
Thanks for the suggestion!
the man breaks rust along with @budsatawny again lol
Oh, I am just the messenger in this case :)
Starting to remind me of ark with the stacking
200 I.Q. Flippers slow effect stacks with metal plate effects for a Suuuuuuuuuuuper slow movement. (I certainly dont know this due to frustration in the learning curve around freehand foundation placement.
Happy to hear that this worked!
"too close to another building"
Evilwurst im a big fan and i have a request. Can you build alien marker from deadspace as concept base. Thank you
Building is more alive than ever now
Thank you, yes!
this is great thx for the video but it hard hard. anyway i was just wondering if u can design a small solo duo trio base with 360 turrets and unlootable loot rooms plz. i have done my fair bit of designing but it always get so expensive
Dont mind the music helping me contemplate my poor life choices
Yo Evil Wurst, just wondering if u would make any cave base tutorial in the future. :)
I don't foresee myself doing one
new base?
how are you so good at making these bases? these are amazing
Thanks! I am surrounded by fantastic builders who constantly keep showing me new things, inspiring me, challenging me to improve my game
PLEASE make a base with this
What happened to the 2x2 honeycomb , shit nowadays too stressful
since you posted this on YoTube I guess Facepunch is okay with us using freehand placing like that?
I didn't double check
This is black magic
What was the build server he mentioned in this video
next week on evil wurst: the freehandstrator.
Hahaha, I am actually not too much into this method yet. Just sharing my learnings
I hope they don't patch this, honestly it takes do much effort it really should be rewarded.
Yes, I agree
On which building server do you play?
How can i build, the third one, double bunker?
I'll be interested to see how a console does on this.
Surely this will be patched out like most tricks?
Essentially, Tesla's base design is officially revealed :)
Tesla was late to the party:-)
@@budsatawny LOL
Epic
Like any kind of stacking, I wouldn't rely on this. I can see this probably being patched out sometime.
Do you watch ungespielt? :D
So if I see someone in flippers and heavy plate building a base, I will no longer assume the guy is an idiot? Got to love Rust
4:53 But walls are connected, it wouldn't let you build multi TCs here right?
Correct, you can only build multi-TC bases is the walls are disconnected
omg i already have so many ideas on how to abuse this
You may want to check what I did. I already made some cool stuff.
you're best :3
what server do you build in cant find anything in rust just for building
Go to the modded tab and search for "build" or "creative". The free ones I used in the past are DankBank and Intoxicated
You didnt show how to connect the roofs further than one triangle..
Can you elaborate further? I don’t understand exactly what the issue is
@@EvilWurst Because you can only connect one roof to the floor, I cannot seem to connect them any further than one square or triangle in any direction. Only from the 3 different levels you marked out by crouching, they just break off from stability. I guess a 4x4 that Budsatswani made is the limit.
Is there a place we can watch you build and just experiment
Hahaha, I am afraid that isn't
it doesn’t work for me for some reason