The Incredible TRUE STORY Of The Avocado!
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- In this video, I share the incredible true story of the avocado! The avocado tree is native to the Americas, but have you ever wondered why commercial growers grow different avocados in California and Florida? We explore the incredible history of avocados and why the Hass avocado dominates the market today.
There are 3 races of avocados: Mexican avocados, Guatemalan avocados, and West Indian avocados. These different avocado types hold the key to selecting the correct avocado variety if growing avocados is your goal. Pairing the right avocado trees to your location is critical for success growing avocado trees.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
0:00 California VS Florida Avocados
2:44 The 3 Avocado Races
5:38 The Story Of The Hass Avocado
8:00 Why FL & CA Grow Different Avocados
11:19 The Florida VS California Avocado Lie
13:02 Tasting Florida VS California Avocados
18:34 Adventures With Dale
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0:00 California VS Florida Avocados
2:44 The 3 Avocado Races
5:38 The Story Of The Hass Avocado
8:00 Why FL & CA Grow Different Avocados
11:19 The Florida VS California Avocado Lie
13:02 Tasting Florida VS California Avocados
18:34 Adventures With Dale
I grew a house avocado from seed in Colorado and send it to Orlando. Florida and it grew still growing now. Twenty five years later produced thousands upon thousands of pounds of avocados
I have 2 avo trees each in a big bin. One is fruiting, they are yummy. If I buy one from the shop I get a burning stomach ache for hours, I can eat my own ones as I don't use chemical sprays. They dont need chemicals they grow very well. The one that fruits is a Hass the other one is a pollinated so I'm told. Thanks for all the info on them🌻☺️
😂omg! Ya had me replaying that ‘anise’ part a couple of times😂 AND I learned a lot~ thanks for 😂!
@@lydiabender5472 I had a good laugh myself!!!
I used to live in downtown San Diego CA and I owned a house built in 1888. There was a huge Avocado tree in the backyard which I'm told was huge and full grown by 1940. The Avocodos were green and humongous ! I took one down to the corner market and weighted it, and it weighted 2 and a 1/2 lbs ! Avocados can stay on the tree for 8 months , just pick when you need one. DO NOT PICK ALL AT ONCE unless you're selling them.
I wonder what it was. Being that old and large, I wonder if it was one of the original Guatemalan varieties discovered by Wilson Popenoe, one of the original avocado hunters. By your description, maybe it was a Nabal. Did it look like this: th-cam.com/video/21CnGEwdJqU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HltTMMx3TUDxqKhI
@@TheMillennialGardener possibly a seedling avocado. I live in San Diego and grow named varieties in my backyard but I have friends that have grown seedlings that are good too.
@@econ0003 that's because most people are going to plant a Hass avocado seed from a grocery store, which has a very deep lineage, so they'll *probably* get something fairly close to a Hass, but ultimately inferior. California grows very specific types of avocados since the Hass-type is what sets California-grown avocados apart from the rest of the world's market. But again, that begs the question, why wait 10-15 years to grow something similar but ultimately inferior to Hass when you can just go out and buy a Hass, GEM, Gwen or Lamb tree and have better fruit in 3 years?
When you start growing things crossed with West Indian and original Guatemalan varieties, that's when you really start getting avocados that taste bad. The chances of planting an avocado seed with WI parentage has a high degree of producing awful fruit. Bad flavor, low oil content, seed coats that adhere to the flesh, fibrous, uneven ripening, etc.
Unless you're a breeder with 20 years of time to kill and lots of acreage, growing avocados from seed just doesn't make sense unless you're using them as rootstock for grafting.
@@TheMillennialGardener I have seen lots of examples where that isn't true. If the tree doesn't work out you can always top work the tree anyways. I would never discourage someone from planting a seedling avocado. Here is one example th-cam.com/video/_r19K8gXABU/w-d-xo.html
I love these history lessons. more please!!!
I will certainly do more in the future!
I’m in FL and I’m growing a Day avocado. I believe it’s a cross between a Guatemalan and West Indian. My area got down to 25 degrees last winter 2 days in a row and it showed no damage.
I’m growing Day too. I think it’s actually a Mexican x West Indian hybrid. It does have great cold tolerance but it’s a pretty slow grower.
As an American who has only ever had the Haas avocado, my brain actually did not want to believe that the other avocado was ripe until you cut into it! I've got to try one now, I see why different cultures use them for sweet vs savory dishes, they're quite literally different avocados.
Most avocados are not brown/black skinned. The Hass is more of an exception, and it probably comes from the Mexican race portion of its DNA. Changing colors is more common in Mexican avocados. It's much rarer in Guatemalan and West Indian varieties, and Mexican varieties like my Lila stay green as well.
We live in central FL and learned about Brogdon variety. Similar to Hass in flavor and oil content, a little bit of cold-hardiness, and skin turns dark when ripe. We have a young tree and it produces well.
You have to watch for frosts killing the flowers, but otherwise, it’s a good variety to consider!
Brogdon has mexican genes that give it the dark color and cold resistance and higher fat content. I just added a tree this year. Since it is B type I hope it will help pollinate my A type dwarf Wurtzs
In Australia we also have about 90% in stores as Hass. Also have Shepard as green alternative to extend the season. Probably main difference spoken about here is Hass will go brown ‘oxidize’ once cut in salad. Shepard will stay green and firm. Best variety I grow is Reed. We also differentiate as ‘a’ type and ‘b’ type for pollination
That's one of the downsides of Hass - it browns very quickly. I hear nothing but wonderful things about Reed. It seems it's everyone's favorite in California. Western Australia and the Sydney area have climates similar to California, so they should be able to churn out some amazing avocados. Up in the tropical North, you'd have to grow the West Indian types mostly.
I have the large green as well as the Haas varieties direct from the back yard. Haas is hands down the better for guac. The larger one I use for smoothies and desserts. The biggest difference between a store bought and fresh picked avocado is that the fresh picked avocado will last two to three times longer in storage. An overripe avocado from the store will have substantial brown and black portions, to the point of being inedible. However, a fresh picked avocado that is stored too long and become very soft to the touch will still be 90-95% edible on the inside. All the more reason to grow your own, if able.
Thank you SO much for this very informarive and well explained video. I am as surprised as you that you've found the flavor and texture of the larger varieties to be so good. I will try some now.
It may have been the variety. Maybe I just got a good one? Looking at photos, if I had to guess, that West Indian fruit was a Monroe. That is often considered one of the best and has more oil content. I could be wrong, though. Whatever it was, it was wonderful.
Thanks for the informative video. You might want to consider an Oro Negro for your area. I live in SoCal 10a, but have 2 healthy Oro Negros that were highly recommended by Fruitful Trees, which do well in Florida. Mine are still young (about 4 feet), so I've not tasted the fruit as of yet, but they are supposed to have a good flavor and fairly high oil content, if that appeals to you. I also have Kona Sharwil, Edranol, Jan Boyce, Reed, Jim Bacon, Lara's Improved Pollock, and have an SC Gold on the way from Epicenter Nursery in Santa Cruz, CA. Thanks again for the video!
I clicked to stay for 10 seconds because I was curious,I stayed for the whole 19 minutes …now I crave avocados
They're incredible. If you live in a climate that can grow them, they're worth their weight in gold.
Nice explanation! I came here to fact check and make sure you said "hass" correctly. Even in California I go to farmer's markets where vendors try to sell me "haas" and I get irrationally bothered by it 😄You're spot on about reed, that's a great piece of fruit, comes with its own bowl to make guac in
They should know better in California! That's their native son and one of their top cash crops! I'd be wary of any Californian avocado farmer that doesn't have the right spelling and pronunciation of a Hass avocado 🙃
I would never have thought I would find avocado history so fascinating! Thank you! I don't think my climate will allow me to grow my own, but I will probably look for the different avocados in my grocery store.
I was in a Harris Teeter yesterday, and there was clearly different varieties of avocados mixed in with the Hass types. Some had russeting, and they clearly looked like a GEM, which are larger and almost sparkle in the light. Then, they had the larger "Florida types" as well. Once you start looking for it, you'll start noticing it.
I always enjoy your “history lessons” about cultivars. So interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Outstanding presentation!
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you!
Thank you for all of your research and sharing it. Very interesting information!
Thanks for posting this! I’ve actually wondered about that difference but kept forgetting to read up on it!
More amazing content.. thank you for sharing!
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Great job KIDO-!! Tank you!!
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic, well-sourced information! Thank you for enlightening us! My🙏👨🌾
Much appreciated information, thanks
You're welcome!
Thank you for this video. I grew up on West Indian avocados, so they're my preference...they taste like fruit and are vibrant...enjoy them!
Very educational! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting and informative! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am willing to bet that 'Florida' avocado is a Monroe. Note: your Lila is looking really good!
That was my guess. It looked like a Monroe, and Monroe has a high oil content for a West Indian type. It was just as good as Hass, although different.
This winter while facing some health problems and trying to focus on a positive outlet for the spring, I have become an avid viewer of gardening videos and I must let you know that yours are consistently GREAT!!! So informative and fun to watch! I have been blessed to enjoy countless avocados in Jamaica (known locally as "pears") and Costa Rica (where they are known by the Spanish "aguacate") In both places they are a beloved and essential feature of the local diet. Your informative lesson on avocado genetics explained the great variety of fruit within the West Indian variety dominant in those countries with skin ranging from bright green to deep purple and shape ranging from the egg shape mostly found in US stores to crazy crookneck varieties shaped like a yellow squash. You will definitely run into those kind of specimens in your journey through the wild world of fruits and vegetables available in FL, so hopefully we will get a followup video!!! Thanks again for providing some great distractions on some scary days (I have won a few converts to your channel by showing your citrus in Northern locales video!)
Wow! This was a great video!
Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Love the information!
Thank you!
Awsome video. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Very helpful video! Thank you MG! 😊👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'll be back later, after I have time to finish the video and fact check a couple of things. My grandparents had one of the first avocado ranches in California. I think I can expand on some of this. 😊
Great video and very interesting, thank you.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Great informative video. Always appreciate your research!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Excellent, thanks.
You are welcome!
I'm on the border of USDA Zones 7A/7B in Virginia, and I really appreciate the information you've shared, as well as your attention to the taste differences. As someone thinking about pushing the zone limits of certain trees - mostly just olives, at the moment, though I really like avocado - I thoroughly enjoyed your video.
I've been experimenting the past few years about 200 miles WNW of Millennial Gardener. Overall, I think it's possible to grow avocados without a greenhouse into the 7B zone if you cover them during freezes and add electric heat several days per winter. 7A would be a challenge though. Probably more realistic to not plant in the ground, keep one in a large container on wheels that you can roll into a garage when necessary.
Here in CA, we don’t name them that way. We actually refer to them as where they were grown, so Mexican or Peruvian. I agree that all the commercial avos are Hass-types, since people have been “trained” to look for the dark-skinned types
If I lived in CA, I would be on the hunt for Reed, Nabal and the Guatemalan descendants!
You wouldn’t have to hunt. There are a fair number of avocado nurseries around. I got Reed, Phoenix,(a Hass type), Gwen, GEM, Sharwil, Lamb-Hass and Paolo d’Oro (a Pinkerton type). All are grafted, so should be flowering in the next year or 2.
@@gigihenderson8567 are they fruiting to you? I have only one Gwen 4 year old not yet fruited (but flowered first time this year) and a bunch of small tries was gifted by my friend: she learned how to graft and gave me all extras - GEM, Little Cado, Fuerte. I've not expect them to fruit any time soon because I am very new for gardening
@@yulduzrakhimova4376 Not yet, no. I only got them early this year, so they are still babies, but grafted will flower and fruit MUCH more quickly than seed-grown
Wow! I learned a lot. I'm from Hawaii and really miss the avocados that we could grow there. One tree that I got fruit from had avocados at least as big as your "Florida" avocado. It was massive with a very narrow small seed, no strings and a buttery taste. Yum. I've had the same experience with mangos. The type we get here in WA are very disappointing. I had one in my backyard (no idea of the variety. It was there when I bought the property) that had large juicy fruit with a narrow flat seed. Lots of eating meat and little waste.
Nice job!
Interesting. Thanks.
You're welcome!
You made my wife and I both have a belly laugh with the pronunciation choices of anise.
I hope I’m right or I’m never talking about anise again 😂
Terrific information about avocados that make me want to go buy a Guatemalan. I particularly appreciated the historical details! Keep it up.😋
Very cool info… fun to follow along on your research for your new property
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video that is truly appreciated. As a Floridian, this video goes a long way to clearing up the controversy.
I’m glad it was informative!
Well done!
Thank you!
Wow I can’t wait to try the West Indian avocado. Thanks for the explanation. Love your videos.
Be sure you let them ripen properly. They take awhile to soften. People that don't like them aren't letting them ripen enough. They should be silky smooth like pudding, almost.
Interesting info.
Thank you!
Excellent video! The cashew taste is characteristic of the Simmons variety.
It s very interresting
It is!
I love your channel. Thank you. My family eat avocados no matter where they come from.
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
I bought two very large Hass-type from Mexico yesterday in Dallas Central Market. Unless your hands are very large, I would say both are as long as the West Indian you show, but are more pear-shaped and of course dark-skinned. The one I cut today was flavorful and firm but perfectly ripe. Nice addition to my chili and buttered cornbread! Thanks for your research and detailed delivery. You're a peach!
If that is the case, it definitely isn't a Hass. They can't get that large. Was the skin smooth or was it bumpy? If it was smooth, it almost sounds like a Brogden, which I could see growing well in TX. It is a more cold hardy complex hybrid between all three races, but it exhibits mostly West Indian traits. It is very popular in Central Florida.
This was just the best video!!
loved the context of your video and especially your closing, I was wondering if you were going to finish the Avocado, because if I could reach in my TV I would've grabbed the other half of that giant Avocado being it looked so 😋😋!!!
I work in retail as a butcher and I know what I'm having for lunch now,yup a big fat Avocado!!!
Once again such a real educational video the Avocado!
I went to Uganda Africa this past summer and the Avocado was just as huge, the inside was all green and no yellow at all. It tasted amazing !
Brad.
Pulling no punches. Love it. I'll be looking for the green Avocado. Thanks. Love the look Dale gave you at the end of this video. Dale thinking, "Don't mess with me dude". lol
They can be tough to find. I went back to the store yesterday to get another and they had none. When you see them, take advantage of the opportunity! Just know you have to let them get quite soft before you can eat them.
thank you for info. I was in Florida on thanksgiving week and tried these giant green avocados. These are really good. However I am trying to grow Gwen avocado (I am in California). My tree is 4 years old (Gwen grafted on mexican rootstock) and it flowered first time this year but no fruits yet.
Hopefully it will set. I’ve heard that variety can be tricky. My Lila took 5 years to carry a fruit to maturity.
I love the video it was very informative and well explained you always do a great job! I live in Ocala Florida which is in north central Florida, I bought a hass avocado tree earlier this year, and it’s doing really good so far. And yes you’re right, the Florida avocados have a hint of sweetness that the hass kind don’t, I still think they make great guacamole though. 😊 You should try making some with them I’m pretty sure you would like it.
I had to lol really loud at your explanation on how to pronounce anis😂”…I’m sure it’s not that way as it smells too good!”🤣🤣
In Cuba the West Indian avocado becomes the Cuban avocado, Catalina. Popular in Miami, Florida.
The name 'Avocado " originates from the Aztec name ahuacacuauhitl meaning tescticle tree 👍🏽
Awseome i wish our stores here in tn had those fl avocados there huge
I had to go to a few stores to find them. They're out there if you look. The green one I ate on camera was quite expensive at $3.69, but honestly, it was worth it. It was just so good.
This is a fantastic video. I love not only learning ew things about my favorite fruit but watching a compare taste review is super interesting when it’s this objective. One day someone will do a compare of all the Mexican cold hardy varieties. I’ve never seen it done and there are so many varieties without any real objective feedback. Thanks for this!
I was surprised with my findings, as well. I think the people that don't like the large West Indian avocados aren't letting them ripen enough. They need to be quite soft. It's so much more helpful to eat things side-by-side. When you eat something on its own, it's basically impossible to detect differences.
Haas avocados from Costco are the top tier, in my opinion here in California. Large, creamy and they ripen perfectly without fail.
I had that huge green one when I went to Florida last year and it taste amazing also. It was as big as my whole hand! I wish I could plant avocados in Las Vegas.
I could be one of dozens of varieties. It's tough to tell. I *think* the avocado in this video is a Monroe, but it's a wild guess based on pictures that I've seen.
My experience is that higher water content waters down the taste. Medium size creamy avocados from my aunt's backyard in long beach, ca are the best i have ever had.
Home grown is the best!
So what's for lunch?
Anthony: Avocado on the half shell 🥑 😋
Too much avocado was for lunch. That was a weird feeling in the stomach for a couple hours. Turns out if you eat over a pound of avocado in a sitting, you feel like you ate concrete mix.
@@TheMillennialGardener Oh no! So sorry 🙏
But thanks for the info. I'll definitely remember that 😳
Very nice explanation.
I’ve tried to find the Mexican type ones for growth, but in Europe I can only find Hass-type in grocery stores, and nobody sells seeds of any type.
Unfortunately we can’t import anything from outside of Europe either.
I was born in Fla. my mom use to stuff the Fla. avocados with tuna salad. We loved them. I now live in Ga and eat mostly Hass. I am also growing a Lila and another Hass type in containers. So far I have had 1 avocado in 2022 and 2023 from the Hass tree. Lila is too little…(planted 2022l. Had to go to A Fla. nursery to find the Lila and the Hass. I love trying to grow tropical fruit in Ga. Have had really good production this year on Lemons, limes, oranges and bergamot.
Very interesting, MG!😃 Thanks for the knowledge.
Avocados are so delish!😋
Nothing like fun with dad!😃 Howdy to sweet Dale!🐕💕
I've always enjoyed avocados, but I've been liking them more and more. I always have 3-4 of them on my counter next to the bananas trying to get to the optimal ripeness, which lasts about 17 minutes before they go from too firm to rotten 🙄 Dale says hi!
We had a small part of an old grove in california when i was a kid. We had both kinds of trees and got way more than we wanted.
Sounds like a good problem to have 😀
This video made me so hungry lol good info!
They were really good! Although, I do not recommend anyone eat that much avocado in a sitting 😆 It was a little much in the stomach.
Good stuff 👍
Thank you!
Really excellent video about Avocados..!!! A real classic.. and very true… I’m an Avo snob!
Sometimes it’s the price
Your knife/same as mine- here’s another secret how to tell if the inside is perfect-look at the naval/snip it off, if it’s green-the Avo is perfect. If not, the inside is already bad.!!
Saw this on a foodie vid
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I do that. I’ve also done the toothpick test on green skinned ones with thicker peels.
Thank You for explaining it clearly on California avocados vs Florida avocados. Before planting avocados on my property in Paso Robles Ca. zone 8b. elevation 1950ft. I have all of the varieties of avocados you mention on your video plus other varieties, Edranol, Jan Boyce, Reed, Naval, Queen, Helen, Kona Sharwill , Bacon, Lamp Hass, Sir Price, Don Gillogly, Nimlion, Gwen, Fuerte, Gem, including few Florida varieties Oro Negro, Improve Pollock, Catalina, Choquette. I did my research Cali vs Florida avocado Mexican/Guatemalan/West Indian but have not had a chance to taste Florida avocados varieties. Hopefully the next couple years my "Florida trees" 😁will produce fruits 🤞and I will have a chance to do the taste comparison on both. Some of my avocados trees is producing fruits. When all of the local nursery tells me you can not grow avocados, citrus, bougainville in Paso Robles. I have all kinds of avocados, citrus & bougainvillea. Plus I have lots of others sub-tropical fruit trees on my property, including longan lychee & Atemoya. With the crazy weather this year we had three days of snow in February. Not one single tree die. The leaves did not even burn. Explain that 😆 But I did lose lots of fruits off my avocados because of late frost in May.
Amazing! I live very close to PR, have an Improved Meyer Lemon tree, despite the naysayers, doing great this year, lots of fruit, using incandescent lights. Would love to try a Mexican avocado, do you have a recommendation for a small Mexican avo tree for a small backyard? I have tried the Bacon variety from the farmer's markets but don't care for the flavor. Also, have you tried growing the Ataulfo Mango, by any chance? Those are my favorite and would be great if possible to grow here on the Central Coast north county.
For small backyard I would recommend Gem, Gwen or reed. The most important is the soil. If you have clay soil you have to mix lots of sand 50% sand with native soil & planted on a mound. Avocados do not like clay soil.
It will die if planted in clay soil. Planted where it get the most sun. Mango will not survive Paso Robles weather. I am not into mango. I hope this help. @@greeneyes6311
Wurtz avocado is another variety that could withstand cold hardy & the tree stay small for small back yard. All of my avocados is planted on a mound with lots of sand mix with native soil, plus with lots of wood chip on top. Farm Supply in San Luis Obispo have most of this avocados varieties plus Ace Miner hardware in Moro Bay also have Gem, Gwen, Reed, Wurtz avocado. Call before you drive there just to make sure they have it. I hope this help.@@greeneyes6311
I grew up in South Florida .. didn't taste a Mexican or Guatemalan type avocado until well into my adult years .. I like them both but I think I might prefer the West Indian type a little more. I do not care much for guacamole .. I prefer to eat avocados when they are not overly ripe in slices with a little vinegar, salt, and pepper .. and sometimes with sliced tomatoes and black olives added to make salad.
I live in 9B central Fl east coast. I love W. Indian in smoothies and yes we call them Fl. Avacados. I prefer the taste of Hass on salads or alone. I am currently growing a store bought W. Indian. I kept trying to germinate the seeds from placing in the water and window seal. Nada...so I just stuck one in the ground and a time seedling has sprouted. It is about 1 foot tall.
I live a little southwest from St Augustine. I take seeds from avacadoes my wife buys and put them in nursery pots full of potting soil. You can put three or four in a pot. Bury the seeds with just a bit exposed, I get a 95% success rate. I also stick some in my vermiculture compost bin. Same thing, just push them barely under the surface.
@@daddio7249 thank you .. I will try that. Are yours producing and do you cover from frost?
@@fishingpinky3165 Just started them (Haas seeds)this summer, I will be putting them inside if it freezes. I want to use them as root stock and take cuttings from the two larger trees (a Cold hardy and a Haas) I bought last year.
❤This was interesting❤and I heard you slip in there,"My future Homestead in Florida"❤So, you're moving!!❤CONGRATULATIONS❤
Thank you. I’m not going anywhere for a long time. It is a 5-10 year horizon. The future property is here: th-cam.com/video/k3Jypf2QGAU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IdX0jldBiJCAPU6t
Bet I've heard the story as an avo home grower and advocate. (now I'll watch) 🙂
I live in the Tampa, Florida area.
I own 3 Avocado Varieties.
Simmonds, Brogdon, and Oro Negro.
2 out of the 3 are West Indian/Guatemalan crosses.
So the skin also turns black when ripening.
All are large and none are watery. The crosses are able to deal with temps around 25, though all
Deal with 32 for for a few hours.
Which is your favorite? I've heard a lot of good things about Oro Negro. Apparently, it's fairly cold hardy for a large avocado. Not hardy enough for my zone, but a good option for Central Florida.
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My Favorite is: Whichever that is fresh, ripe and In my Hand…
Gardening jokes aside.
Probably the Oro Negro.
The good things is they are a Late Harvest Variety (ready in the fall and holds until January) and the others I have are more Early to Mid harvest. (Ready In July/August) maybe later but don’t last that long (because they are still young trees)
There are also good Early Varieties.
The Goal is to have a harvest June-Jan\Feb.
There are still more I’d like to add to my collection like, Monroe, Day, Wuirtz etc.
Nishikawa is a Guatemalan variety that does well in Florida and oro negro is a cross between Guatemalan and West Indian that grows well in Florida. Oro negro combines the oil content of a Hass with the fruitiness of a tropical avocado.
I’ve heard good things about Nishikawa, as well as Green Gold and Reed. Nishikawa and Green Gold were developed in Hawaii, so they may have more tolerance of tropical conditions. However, Florida is much more humid than Hawaii. I’ve heard mixed reviews on Reed. That’s the avocado I want to grow more than any others, but I doubt it’ll turn out like one grown in CA.
I live on the SW Coast (Pine Island). It gets so humid here fish complain about it. My nishikawa does very well in the summer as well as being my only avocado to continue putting out flushes of growth in the winter. It is still kind of young so I never had the fruit. Oro negro is probably the second best avocado I have ever had, I highly recommend. My favorite is a little known variety called "Buck." But for some reason I just cannot get one to grow. I have tried 3 times. Besides being delicious it's season is March through May which is rare. I am also growing Russell and chocette. Good luck on you new property. Let me know if you need scions or anything.
@@dansobien8196where do you get a “Buck” avocado in Florida? I’ve never seen it in any nurseries. What’s it like?
@@somerandomperson1503 Fruitscapes in Bokeelia usually has the trees and it sells the fruit in season. The fruit is very good with almost the oil content of a Hass but all the fruity sweetness of a tropical avocado. The best part it's fruits mature in April/May when no other avocado I know of is maturing in Florida.
@@dansobien8196 Thank you!!! That’s just what i needed!
Try putting some Worchestershire sauce in the divit of the avocado before spooning it out. Excellent!
This was very interesting. I never really considered Hass avocados as California and I don’t eat the other variety because I think Hass is far superior in flavor and texture and I believe most people would agree.
I thought that until I tried them side-by-side. I think you'd be surprised. The big West Indian avocados take awhile to ripen, so make sure they are nice and soft before trying.
@@TheMillennialGardener Because I respect you so much I’m going to try just that!
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In philippines we have bunch varieties of avocado 🥑 we have hugh almost size coconut so delicious
Live in north fl. Dont know what to do help them look HEALTHY.
The trees? Avocados need well draining soil, annual pruning, tons of organic matter and cold protection. Avocados need a 3-6 inch layer of mulch at all times. It is very important that you chop up all the old avocado branches and leaves and lay them in a thick mat around the tree.
Was really hoping you would share which avocado would grow in north florida! I like in Southwest Louisiana and I really want to grow one, but I've killed 3 so far.
Once you've had a Fuerte brand you can never go back. Have you ever been to Rancho Vasquez in Azusa, CA? Their Avo Farm is historic and produce the best I've ever had. You should take Dale and head out there for a field trip!
Please do a video about kiwi. I like the story about those fruit coming into our life, but we knew so little about them. Thank you.
I don't grow kiwi, so I don't know too much about them.
NIce HAAS!
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When I first purchased my home there were two giant 40 foot tall avacado trees in the very small backyard. The fruits were green skinned and TWICE as big as the one you were holding. They were the best avacados I'd ever tasted! With the threat of hurricanes though and them being so close to my house I had no choice but to remove them. Truly made me sad. I'm zone 10b South Florida. I just purchased a Little Cado (Wurtz) avacado, its drawf so wont ever be a threat to my roof. Hoping I like the flavor.
Out of curiosity, why did you remove them in their entirety? They could've just been cut down to 10 feet tall and maintained each year with annual pruning. They would've still grown. At that size, they could be anything. Monroe, Simmonds and Catalina are popular down there for backyard growers and are pretty large. I hear Oro Negro is pretty good, too. I'd love to grow something like that here, but they're too frost sensitive.
I don't think you'll like Wurtz very much. It's not known for great fruit and will probably struggle in Florida. You don't need to grow a dwarf avocado variety. You just need to prune it annually. Any avocado variety can be maintained at 8-10 feet with annual pruning. Just head the tree low when it's young and maintain the scaffolds low. You can even espalier them if you want.
If I were you, I'd get something like a Monroe or Oro Negro that's known to do very well in South Florida and just prune it each year to keep it manageable. I keep my tree between 6-8 feet every year. It's very simple. See here: th-cam.com/video/jdFgP6VEOts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_JTsj4hR3ASbhf0I
@@TheMillennialGardener They were taken down almost 40 years ago, and the trunks were probably around a foot or more width. Back then I had no idea an avacado would live after being cut back that drastically. I wasn't as into gardening back then. That happened probably 15 years later, starting with small vegetable garden, and flower garden. It has transitioned into creating a mini food forest, and more veggie growing now. Hope you're wrong about the Wurtz since it's due to be delivered today. Just finished watching your video on how to plant avacado trees.
Okay, I have a pug who howls, its super weird looking. He loves Dale, waits for you to get done talking because he knows. Today I watched Hoot run to the TV and howl with Dale. Made my night 😂
A howling pug would be quite a scene! I didn't know they could do that! Dale is a hound, so he can howl pretty well. Sometimes, he forgets though and will just bark until he finds the howl. Once he finds the howl, he can't stop!
@@TheMillennialGardener most pugs don't do it. It was sweet to see him have a howling friend.
Tampa Bay resident here. We call all the giant avocados Florida avocados because size matters lol. But seriously, if you're looking to buy avocado trees, you should try tasting the fruits of the different varieties and make your decision based on which type you like the taste of best. There are some Florida avocado growers that will let you sample the fruits when in season since they aren't available commercially.
The ones from the tropic I totally different and taste as you realized in the video
They're very interesting. I don't think they'd make as good of guacamole, but for fresh eating, they have a very complex flavor and firm texture, which is ideal.
Have you heard of the avocado cartels? Very interesting video. Thanks.
In Mexico, yes.
California here, I never heard of California or Florida avocados. I remember seeing both kinds of avocados sold in the stores when I was a kid.
Edit. I have a fuerte avocado tree in my yard. They are to die for.
Being in California, you're more educated on avocados since you actually have a real section. Once you leave California, you get the leftover swill. The general public outside of California mostly thinks only two avocados exist - the little ones and the big ones 😂
Where in CA are you?
i need to try avocado here. ive got citrus figured out so i should try those next
If you can grow citrus, you can grow avocados. Pure Mexican varieties like Lila/Opal, Pryor/Fantastic, Stewart, Mexicola and Mexicola Grande can all survive down to Zone 8 with a little protection on the worst nights.
@@TheMillennialGardener I may just do it. I protect mine the same way you do.
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My Grandmother told me about her uncle. He was a botanist. His name was Booth. She had told me stories of how he cross pollinated and created his own type of avocado
Was it Booth or Burbank? Luther Burbank was a botanist in Sonoma County, California. He developed lots of varieties of fruits and vegetables for commercial production including the russet potato variety used for commercial french fry production, marionberries and many others. He also did some work with avocados.
@@florencejessup2432 I only know what I was told. It is called the Booth avocado. I know he operated out of Homestead, Florida
I've always preferred the big green ones... now with that anise information about the Hass leaves, that could be why. Anything that resembles black licorice doesn't register as food to me..medicine maybe.
There's a variety of the big green ones named Bacon that's lovely.. slight tropical fruit flavor, somewhere between a mango and a pineapple...doesn't taste like bacon at all.. but would go well on a BLT
Someday I'll be crazy enough to attempt an avocado landrace for a colder climate
I grow the reed, hass,gem,lamb hass,sharwil,qween,jan boyce,qween, and fuerte.
Im in los angeles i havent tried florida avocados cuz i heard there not as good.
Afrer watching this video I guess i have to try them.
I recently got a Lula avocado tree. One site claims it is a Guatemalan/West Indian fusion. Another says Guatemalan/Mexican. Now I have some searching to do
Do you have a recommended variety to grow in California zone 9B? We get a few days of freeze but not much. Also, which nursery would you recommend getting a tree from if I were to order online?
California Zone 9B is the holy land of avocado production. You can literally grow anything. I recommend you follow Greg Alder on TH-cam and search his blog. You’ll want to follow his advice. He also tells you where in CA to buy from.