It’s because they don’t run gbb. Gbb are for people who love less ammo to make it harder and you have to make your shots count. I love gbb the down fall is they’re money pits 😭 mags are pricey but this gbb m249 look cheaper to run I want one. I would definitely run it for milsims
Finally a gbb lmg that isn't a rpk. The only thing is something like this only works if everyone is running a gbb and manny of us even milsimers use aeg's with 150 rd mags. Also for the rpk there is actually hpa drum for gbb rpk's.
HPA tap is going to be the best way to go with this. The 100 round mags are…even lower capacity than a real M249. I’m pretty sure those are 200 round boxes. HPA tap and modded/customized mags are the two things to do with this.
I really don't like the mag design, it's not going to be compatible with ammo pouches and you'll need 2 lots of mags, one for gas, one for ammo. It kind of ruins it as a milsim set up...
If they can retro design a way to feed ammo from the box nags I'll be sold because the gbb mech looks awesome, they just need to combine the ammo/gas otherwise the manual of arms will be totally unrealistic
Yea, I was just thinking, why they don't just made it that you have GAS reservoir in the mag along with BBs with capacity of real weapon (200 BBs). There would be plenty of space both for reservoir and BBs...
I can only suggest using the large capacity version if the box mag for no gas refills and run P90 magazine pouches on your rig (I assume these and P90 are the same size). You can stack many p90 over each other to nice effect but yes I would love a different version
Yeah I like the idea but I still prefer to have the gas and ammunition in one unit therefore switching magazines also supplies me with new gas and you don't have to swap them out at different times
TBH if you are playing for performance it makes no sense to use GBB of any kind except maybe handguns. People who do GBB are those who want realism even at a disadvantage.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj idk what gbb you have or seen but mine pack a punch and range and with 7 mags can get throw a fire fight and reload them all under 2 mins. just gotta pick a good time to repack the mags
I think that this is a great improvement for the airsoft world as the first real gbb LMG (outside of the RPK, which only needs minor modifications to change). I just hope that other companies step up to compete with this gun, since it feels more like a gimmick than a useable gbb-lmg, especially with the 2 required magazines (instead of just 1)
I dont understand why there are so many negative comments about being the best gun or high capacity. ITS A GAS BLOWBACK M249! your not buying it to be a speedsofting sweat lord running around with a short barrel HPA tapped m4 with a strobe and tracer unit. Part of the fun is reloading! Its why people run shell ejecting shotguns and rifles. It is objectively worse and cumbersome, but adds much more to the play experience than just "Fill big box. Plug in battery, reload at the end of match."
@@orangeairsoft7292 my statement isnt about how bad GBBRs are... it's just to point out that this specific model is really bad, especially as a LMG you should be able to support your team and supress the enemy with continous fire.
@@Neboekadnezar if that's the case I'm 100% in, if they can keep the base gun that low it gives me hope the add ons won't be too bad. Also if it's reasonable more people will buy them and the aftermarket support will be there
@@bangerairsoft4086 Considering their FAL is around that price point I highly doubt this will be equal to or lower than $650, I'm guessing it will be around $700-800. Dual Co2 cartridge box mags will probably be around $175, and plastic bb mags most likely around $30-40. Just a guess though obviously.
@@jeremycaylor9151, even that kinda price range is tolerable. If the replica and the HPA setup ends up under $900-1000 total I'm probably going to end up with one in the collection. Seems like a ton of fun.
@@bangerairsoft4086 As long as the gun is reliable and they use quality parts then yeah the price is not that bad for someone who wants to get into an LMG role, especially considering the cost of an A&K M249 aeg has almost doubled since I bought mine years ago. I'm sure folks such as myself who already have an M249 would much prefer a Daytona kit at a lower lost (and proven reliability) but either way it's good to see more GBBR options come out on the market, just as long as they're not coming from WE-Tech.
That seems like it defeats the purpose of a belt fed, the main thing it has going for it is its ammo capacity, and the only thing they limited is the ammo capacity. Sure it can hold a lot of gas but it's bb count is limited to less than what an AEG m4 can hold........
From the Videos i have seen it goes into cooldown after like 300 rnd you can see it getting slower. Yes its nice but with co2 its just horrible expensive to run. and 170rnds for a lmg? bett off with a Daytona Kit change the O rings to ones that can take the cold and run a Sodastream bottle in your back. 450g co2 gets you around 4k shots and you still have the big capacity
Yeah, I’m not a fan of the mag setup. You have to carry two mags? One for gas, one for bb’s? Just seems clunky, overall. I mean, yeah, you could just do the box mag for gas and you don’t have to change it, but it feels kind of goofy to me to be changing a fake mag in the gun vs changing the actual mag. Not for me, but maybe it has a place with someone else.
I am super interested in this model being that I Have an A&K M249. My biggest question is, how long does the gas last? How long can you play before changing out or refilling the gas?
Everything looks nice but the bb mag sucks! it is the worst part of the design. I am not a fan of hpa, i love my gbb, but in this case, i would rather get a Daytona for m249 blowback
But with only a 100round internal magazine.. not even a box magazine, that may have been a huge missed opportunity for that realism that alot of players, especially those at MilSim west and like event would want to run.
no, with it being GBB the point of it is to be realistic. Most of us Gbb users are used to running 30 round mags so having access to 175 rounds is actually a massive step up in capacity. What people need to realise is this is not gong to compete with aegs, the point of this is realism and it accomplishes it nicely except the weight being so low
I’m excited for it. Honestly the dust cover magazine makes sense and probably will give a more realistic means of reloading. If you are running for realism just carry some drums in your kit for cool guy factor and possibly stow the mags with them. It does suck that it doesn’t reach that 200rd count to fully get the immersion. But it does make sense with the 100. I’m curious if running C02/hpa will require it to eat lube like the real one😂
The 100 round mags kind of defeat the purpose of it being a support gun.... Edit: kudos to VFC for making the internal design so similar to the real thing tho
Kinda defeats the entire point of having an LMG on the field, if some dude with a high cap mag in his M4 can out suppress you. People are gonna find a clever way of modding this to take AEG mags.
Yes because speedsofters are going to be the ones buying this. Also as someone who runs a GBBR, yes I may have less ammo than a basic high cap AEG but I play more for fun and the experience rather than just for kills. Even than my GBBR is still quite good on the field.
Im burning 5-10k rounds a day on game days, don't feel like doing 50-100 reloads. Aside from that, specialized proprietary stuff like this tends to not be supported a year later. I never buy proprietary things anymore because of this... A different nozzle length with a standard gearbox is fine but something like that gas mag is going to dissapear in a year.
So it has no way to feed in BBs from a larger (box) magazine? Pretty realistic to have to reload every 100 rounds or so, but also a bit of a pain if you prefer convenience over realism.
As you might want the realism of the recoil with out being at a completely unarguable disadvantage in every game? We all play for fun yes, but imagine playing at a smaller local game and the limit LMGs to just a hand full on each side The other team had a dude with a 5k auto winding mag and you have to reload every 5/10 second I want the fun of recoil but it absolutely doesn’t come before functionality when you can have both God save Daytona guns!
@@jordan95budd get the TM one then... The whole point of GBB is proper realism in terms of function and will always be a disadvantage. So having a 5k box mag contradicts that. Also you are asking for massively cool down issues bricking the system. You wouldn't shoot like that other guys if you only had 100 rounds. The exact same as you would rinse through 35 rounds instead of 250 rounds in an AEG.
I have to admit I'm not that impressed by it I run an upgraded m249 just now and the ammo capacity is amazing with the fire rate I'm rinsing people, this honestly feels like a downgrade especially in the ammo capacity. Only reason for getting it on my end is the gbb feature
Of al the methodes they could've come up with they chose the worse. Expensive boxes that house gas, a mag system that defeats the whole feel..... Its going to be pricey i presume. I just hope that if this flops they dont drop the ball and gen 2 will be better.
The amount of BB mags you'll need it annoyingly ridiculous... I feel like they could have just designed a reservoir in the stock (since the AEG battery isn't needed) and kept the box mag for ammo. Even if you HPA'd it, that still defeats the purpose of having the MG which is for full auto and ammo capacity per mag.
Nice nice, but I will be more interested if it shows up for us down under converted for gel. That lil BB mag has me sceptical if it could ever not destroy gels
I would love to see somthing like M4 tippman, you want GBBR? swap 2 parts here you go... ohh you want HPA BBR? same just spaw parts. So something like that but in LMG/UMG body
@@serioussmoke1123 Their AKs suffer from bad quality control and their design is 8 years old and outdated. If they didn't suffer for terrible quality control I would've definitely bought one by now
@@orangeairsoft7292 Yup. Also if I'm not mistaken, they also went up in price, for whatever reason. If Tokyo Marui releases an AK74 with polymer furniture I'm probably gonna buy that. But until then I'm gonna be working on my MWS URG-I and BCM MCMR build :-)
@@iAshh It's garbage, has too many issues which for the price isn't worth it. Even if you do fix the issues that it has, it's fundamentally flawed and ultimately you can't completely fix it without the gun shitting itself.
Its cool, realistic, but is it practical?Its probably really expensive, low mag capacity, and reliability could be faulty. Its better off as a collectors item, and Me personally, I'd rather buy something that could fill the gap as a collectors and game worthy gun. But I wont judge you for using it for actual gameplay, cuz it is a pretty cool piece to flex with Lol
Thats why a TM MWS is personally my favourite GBBR and go-to gun. It has a really nice build quality and is cerokoted, have never broke on me in the 1.5 years I've had it, and has really good aftermarket support with the ability to do anything to it like a real AR. To me it beats the VFC ones as even if they are a bit more realistic they don't have the balance of being that and also really reliable.
This will be a hard NO from me, this has the worst ammo capacity on the market for a saw, rendering it useless as a saw, and unrealistic as well. Cool concept, not practical, and given the brand & being a GBB, it wont be cheap enough to justify its shortcomings.
It's a nice collectors piece but no one will skirmish a support gun that feeds on mid caps unless they're playing against people using gbb rifles and real caps. If they make a feed adapter so it can use an AEG box mag and run external HPA from the grip then this would be a game changer and VFC would need to make more than one run of these.
@@Totemparadox Most milsims use midcaps for rifles with the support guns being the only thing with box mags/hicaps. GBBRs are more common at milsim games but they still aren't what the majority of players are using.
@@slifer967 hi gbbr community. The support gunner community would like to introduce you to area denial, beaten zones and volume of fire. I won't deny you can go toe to toe with an aeg rifle using a gbbr (I own one too) but to be a really effective Airsoft support gunner you need a lot of plastic in the air.
Good for mil sim, terrible for airsoft. Seems like a lot of faff for only 100 rds, they could have figured out a much better way to feed bbs from the box mag, the gas res isn’t taking up that much room
As a Dayton gun owner any GBB on full auto is just utterly disappointing. It’s great to see an alternative platform for a blowback LMG and the hpa option looks interesting but with no lube in the hpa how will the parts hold up to LMG ware and tare?
Not going to argue that as TBH I’ve only ever had a hand full of GBB pistol basically to have for a side arm because we all know “switching to your side arm is faster than reloading” 🥴 Been pure HPA with rifs for 6/8 years so probably only grabbed my pistol a hand full of time genuinely in a game to try and compete so I’m all ears to learn something I don’t know!
@@jordan95budd this video explains how to properly maintain gbb and briefly goes over why having oil in the gas is not good/extremely outdated th-cam.com/video/5JPLe5R8-Ms/w-d-xo.html
This isn't a good lmg option... like it's mag is super small swapping those super small mags is ridiculous. I don't understand this gun at all. That tiny mag is suppose to suppress other players?
@@Triforceking yeah I know this, it's more reason why this gun makes no sense. AEG lmgs in other ways are more realistic. This guns mag is it's super unrealistic factor
@@Rick_Makes I can agree with that. I've no idea how you would put a AEG mag on it though since it seems to be fed like a P90. Then the normal m4 style mag loader on this is how gas is fed.
@@WitchDoctor87 There might be a way to get an ammo feed through the belt feed with the spring tube from an AEG box mag hidden inside a custom hollow ammo belt. It would also leave the AR mag well clear for a gas feed line.
Very poor, great concept but their missing the point of a support weapon, to lay down a high volume of rounds down range. That mag is smaller than a high cap,🤦
Was excited until they started talking about it more. This is a really cool idea but stupid design and execution. This needs to go back to the drawing board.
@@YoChocolate I understand that I'm not an idiot lol. My point is, they took the mag and made it purely a gas reservoir, therefore why did y'all only get 100 rounds out of the actual mag, they didn't try hard enough thast why, it's an aeg mag at that point so I mean like 110 like mp5s is asking too much......120 130 I don't think 150 was pushing too much, it's an lmg they have the room
@@krolentertainment3533 I get where youre coming from. Like @Doggie said its probably because you would need a winding mag for more. I guess they went with the decision to use the actual magazine as a gas tank only so that you almost never have to refill gas. That of course means reloading BBs more often so yeah, its probably not the best solution..
The amount of people complaining about ammo capacity in a gbb is astonishing
Because its lower than the real one
It’s because they don’t run gbb. Gbb are for people who love less ammo to make it harder and you have to make your shots count. I love gbb the down fall is they’re money pits 😭 mags are pricey but this gbb m249 look cheaper to run I want one. I would definitely run it for milsims
Finally a gbb lmg that isn't a rpk. The only thing is something like this only works if everyone is running a gbb and manny of us even milsimers use aeg's with 150 rd mags. Also for the rpk there is actually hpa drum for gbb rpk's.
HPA tap is going to be the best way to go with this.
The 100 round mags are…even lower capacity than a real M249. I’m pretty sure those are 200 round boxes.
HPA tap and modded/customized mags are the two things to do with this.
If you hpa tap this it will be worthless and not special
They have both. 100 and 200 round boxes.
Damn, can't wait to see @Airsoft Alfons rocking this beast
I really don't like the mag design, it's not going to be compatible with ammo pouches and you'll need 2 lots of mags, one for gas, one for ammo. It kind of ruins it as a milsim set up...
If they can retro design a way to feed ammo from the box nags I'll be sold because the gbb mech looks awesome, they just need to combine the ammo/gas otherwise the manual of arms will be totally unrealistic
Yea, I was just thinking, why they don't just made it that you have GAS reservoir in the mag along with BBs with capacity of real weapon (200 BBs). There would be plenty of space both for reservoir and BBs...
I can only suggest using the large capacity version if the box mag for no gas refills and run P90 magazine pouches on your rig (I assume these and P90 are the same size). You can stack many p90 over each other to nice effect but yes I would love a different version
@@pinkattero2855 The mags are ~75% the size of P90 mags in each direction. You should be able to fit a bunch of them in the larger SAW gunner pouches.
Yeah I like the idea but I still prefer to have the gas and ammunition in one unit therefore switching magazines also supplies me with new gas and you don't have to swap them out at different times
As cool as this is, it needs alot of improvement. I still think a daytona LMG is a better choice.
Kinda only makes sense as an LMG if you're playing a GBB/real cap only game.
But thread m249 can hold up to double what the internal mag can
TBH if you are playing for performance it makes no sense to use GBB of any kind except maybe handguns. People who do GBB are those who want realism even at a disadvantage.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj idk what gbb you have or seen but mine pack a punch and range and with 7 mags can get throw a fire fight and reload them all under 2 mins. just gotta pick a good time to repack the mags
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj true but once you run GBBR you realise it’s so much more fun and AEGs soon become very boring.
VFC as usual didn't think this through like usual
like usual it's pretty usual like usual
How so?
I think that this is a great improvement for the airsoft world as the first real gbb LMG (outside of the RPK, which only needs minor modifications to change). I just hope that other companies step up to compete with this gun, since it feels more like a gimmick than a useable gbb-lmg, especially with the 2 required magazines (instead of just 1)
I dont understand why there are so many negative comments about being the best gun or high capacity. ITS A GAS BLOWBACK M249! your not buying it to be a speedsofting sweat lord running around with a short barrel HPA tapped m4 with a strobe and tracer unit. Part of the fun is reloading! Its why people run shell ejecting shotguns and rifles. It is objectively worse and cumbersome, but adds much more to the play experience than just "Fill big box. Plug in battery, reload at the end of match."
I feel like mag capacity makes this a non starter
It's a 100 round mag but VFC have said you can get it to 175 with a loading tool, the 100 round advertised capacity is a hand load
@@KamiKaze11000 still nothing compared to something like a 2400 box mag
@@kanyenorth2092 You're getting this for the realism, nothing more...
No its price
I wish it took a standard M249 box for ammo with HPA out the Grip
Can't wait to get it, I'm bullpupping mine
Oh lord, I wish you the best lmao
"Game changer" - gets outgunned by an average cyma ak with mid cap 😂
If everyone just ran basic cyma setups in airsoft the game would get boring real quick. I personally got a GBBR because I was bored of AEGs.
@@orangeairsoft7292 my statement isnt about how bad GBBRs are... it's just to point out that this specific model is really bad, especially as a LMG you should be able to support your team and supress the enemy with continous fire.
The only thing that might make it rough is the price tag, I can't imagine the base replica will be under $1,1000-$1,200
MSRP is said to be around $ 650,- we'll see...
@@Neboekadnezar if that's the case I'm 100% in, if they can keep the base gun that low it gives me hope the add ons won't be too bad. Also if it's reasonable more people will buy them and the aftermarket support will be there
@@bangerairsoft4086 Considering their FAL is around that price point I highly doubt this will be equal to or lower than $650, I'm guessing it will be around $700-800. Dual Co2 cartridge box mags will probably be around $175, and plastic bb mags most likely around $30-40. Just a guess though obviously.
@@jeremycaylor9151, even that kinda price range is tolerable. If the replica and the HPA setup ends up under $900-1000 total I'm probably going to end up with one in the collection. Seems like a ton of fun.
@@bangerairsoft4086 As long as the gun is reliable and they use quality parts then yeah the price is not that bad for someone who wants to get into an LMG role, especially considering the cost of an A&K M249 aeg has almost doubled since I bought mine years ago. I'm sure folks such as myself who already have an M249 would much prefer a Daytona kit at a lower lost (and proven reliability) but either way it's good to see more GBBR options come out on the market, just as long as they're not coming from WE-Tech.
The box mag are for green gas or hpa?
That seems like it defeats the purpose of a belt fed, the main thing it has going for it is its ammo capacity, and the only thing they limited is the ammo capacity. Sure it can hold a lot of gas but it's bb count is limited to less than what an AEG m4 can hold........
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From the Videos i have seen it goes into cooldown after like 300 rnd you can see it getting slower. Yes its nice but with co2 its just horrible expensive to run. and 170rnds for a lmg? bett off with a Daytona Kit change the O rings to ones that can take the cold and run a Sodastream bottle in your back. 450g co2 gets you around 4k shots and you still have the big capacity
Yeah, I’m not a fan of the mag setup. You have to carry two mags? One for gas, one for bb’s? Just seems clunky, overall.
I mean, yeah, you could just do the box mag for gas and you don’t have to change it, but it feels kind of goofy to me to be changing a fake mag in the gun vs changing the actual mag.
Not for me, but maybe it has a place with someone else.
I am super interested in this model being that I Have an A&K M249. My biggest question is, how long does the gas last? How long can you play before changing out or refilling the gas?
Everything looks nice but the bb mag sucks! it is the worst part of the design. I am not a fan of hpa, i love my gbb, but in this case, i would rather get a Daytona for m249 blowback
That is the saw I will eventually buy
But with only a 100round internal magazine.. not even a box magazine, that may have been a huge missed opportunity for that realism that alot of players, especially those at MilSim west and like event would want to run.
The magazine can hold up to 175 bbs if you can load the all the way
Aye, would've preferred the bb's to be in the magazine however there's no convenient way to load it based off the mechanism
hope the next model would have the bbs and gas tang in the same mag like a surefire 60 or 100 rnd replica or the box.
Nice in germany this will be only under 0,5j or over 0,5j but then in semi auto ☠️💀
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Doesn't the mag defeat the object of it being a high capacity support gun??
no, with it being GBB the point of it is to be realistic. Most of us Gbb users are used to running 30 round mags so having access to 175 rounds is actually a massive step up in capacity.
What people need to realise is this is not gong to compete with aegs, the point of this is realism and it accomplishes it nicely except the weight being so low
I’m excited for it. Honestly the dust cover magazine makes sense and probably will give a more realistic means of reloading. If you are running for realism just carry some drums in your kit for cool guy factor and possibly stow the mags with them. It does suck that it doesn’t reach that 200rd count to fully get the immersion. But it does make sense with the 100. I’m curious if running C02/hpa will require it to eat lube like the real one😂
The 100 round mags kind of defeat the purpose of it being a support gun....
Edit: kudos to VFC for making the internal design so similar to the real thing tho
The magazines can hold up to 175 bbs if you can load them all they way
Dang, those are big swappable CO2 cartridges!
They're origionally meant for things like inflatable life rafts.
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Kinda defeats the entire point of having an LMG on the field, if some dude with a high cap mag in his M4 can out suppress you. People are gonna find a clever way of modding this to take AEG mags.
Let's be honest. You don't buy GBBRs to be competitive, you buy them to have fun.
Yes because speedsofters are going to be the ones buying this.
Also as someone who runs a GBBR, yes I may have less ammo than a basic high cap AEG but I play more for fun and the experience rather than just for kills. Even than my GBBR is still quite good on the field.
I don’t like the light-weight design. SAW has to be full-steel, heavy duty, and bomb-proof.
I don’t wanna crack that magnesium alloy receiver 😂
Factory hpa tapped VFC thought of everything.
I just stick to a battery powered rifle and hi cap magazine. Paying all that money on gas powered guns in Northern Ireland in the cold.
Looks cool but can see the mag size been an issue for people who play support gunners. What’s the mag hold, 200-300?
175
@@somerandomlord1575 wow 175 on a support weapon
wait till you find out how much the real one holds
most importantly this design can be incorporated into any LMG platform
Im burning 5-10k rounds a day on game days, don't feel like doing 50-100 reloads.
Aside from that, specialized proprietary stuff like this tends to not be supported a year later.
I never buy proprietary things anymore because of this...
A different nozzle length with a standard gearbox is fine but something like that gas mag is going to dissapear in a year.
This thing is gonna use more gas than my oven
And get more love than your kids.
Unless it jams every 5 rounds like the real one, I don’t want it
will this system also be compatible with the vfc mg4?
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So it has no way to feed in BBs from a larger (box) magazine? Pretty realistic to have to reload every 100 rounds or so, but also a bit of a pain if you prefer convenience over realism.
The Magazine can hold up to 175 BBs. Not bad for a GBB Midcap :)
If you prefer convenience over realism why would you buy a GBB 😂🤦🏽♂️
As you might want the realism of the recoil with out being at a completely unarguable disadvantage in every game?
We all play for fun yes, but imagine playing at a smaller local game and the limit LMGs to just a hand full on each side
The other team had a dude with a 5k auto winding mag and you have to reload every 5/10 second
I want the fun of recoil but it absolutely doesn’t come before functionality when you can have both
God save Daytona guns!
@@jordan95budd get the TM one then...
The whole point of GBB is proper realism in terms of function and will always be a disadvantage. So having a 5k box mag contradicts that.
Also you are asking for massively cool down issues bricking the system.
You wouldn't shoot like that other guys if you only had 100 rounds.
The exact same as you would rinse through 35 rounds instead of 250 rounds in an AEG.
kinda irrelevant though. That's just not the market for this replica; people who prefer convenience over realism don't use GBBs
will there be a full steel deluxe version?
No standard long barrel version?
I have to admit I'm not that impressed by it I run an upgraded m249 just now and the ammo capacity is amazing with the fire rate I'm rinsing people, this honestly feels like a downgrade especially in the ammo capacity. Only reason for getting it on my end is the gbb feature
All that for 100 round capacity?
Of al the methodes they could've come up with they chose the worse. Expensive boxes that house gas, a mag system that defeats the whole feel..... Its going to be pricey i presume. I just hope that if this flops they dont drop the ball and gen 2 will be better.
The amount of BB mags you'll need it annoyingly ridiculous... I feel like they could have just designed a reservoir in the stock (since the AEG battery isn't needed) and kept the box mag for ammo. Even if you HPA'd it, that still defeats the purpose of having the MG which is for full auto and ammo capacity per mag.
The purpose of GBB is to have realistic capacities unlike AEG. IRL you aren't carrying much more than 600 rounds.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj yea so realistic to reload it like a P90
It should just be HPA with a regular box mag.
Soooo awesome !!
Game changingly expensive to no doubt! :D
Nice nice, but I will be more interested if it shows up for us down under converted for gel.
That lil BB mag has me sceptical if it could ever not destroy gels
weight like pdw
a light cheap look
Where is the heat shield?
can this take copper bbs?
Not gonna lie this was mildly arousing, and deafening, to test shoot. I can't wait to get one of my own to field it and run it into the ground 🤣👌
I would love to see somthing like M4 tippman, you want GBBR? swap 2 parts here you go... ohh you want HPA BBR? same just spaw parts. So something like that but in LMG/UMG body
interesting
I am iffy on this. While it is cool but I think both daytona gun and TM NGRS would be more fieldable than this
So....... It's a P90-249?
Now do an AK GBBR VFC! There aren't any good ones on the market. We need one!
Ghk has already got that market covered. Their AKs are fantastic
@@serioussmoke1123 well they _were_ fantastic, until their quality control went completely down the drain
@@serioussmoke1123 Their AKs suffer from bad quality control and their design is 8 years old and outdated. If they didn't suffer for terrible quality control I would've definitely bought one by now
@@rayndown Not to mention GHK AKs are really hard to find for a lot of people so not really a great option anymore.
@@orangeairsoft7292 Yup. Also if I'm not mistaken, they also went up in price, for whatever reason.
If Tokyo Marui releases an AK74 with polymer furniture I'm probably gonna buy that. But until then I'm gonna be working on my MWS URG-I and BCM MCMR build :-)
If it preforms great, there’s a hope for gbb p90 I think
WE make one already
@@iAshh I don’t play trash lol
@@puretoxicityknuckles658 bruh...
@@iAshh It's garbage, has too many issues which for the price isn't worth it. Even if you do fix the issues that it has, it's fundamentally flawed and ultimately you can't completely fix it without the gun shitting itself.
I'll just stick with my Daytona
I can't wait for this gun. Yes it has querks but a worthwhile just for the cool factor
Looks really cool and I'm all about new things in airsoft but all these "awesome game changing features " all seem like downsides not selling points.
VFC G18C vs VFC G17 gen 5
Release date???
So why wouldn't you set it up so it runs HPA and uses the box mag for ammo. Seems really stupid the way the designed it.
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Its cool, realistic, but is it practical?Its probably really expensive, low mag capacity, and reliability could be faulty. Its better off as a collectors item, and Me personally, I'd rather buy something that could fill the gap as a collectors and game worthy gun. But I wont judge you for using it for actual gameplay, cuz it is a pretty cool piece to flex with Lol
Thats why a TM MWS is personally my favourite GBBR and go-to gun. It has a really nice build quality and is cerokoted, have never broke on me in the 1.5 years I've had it, and has really good aftermarket support with the ability to do anything to it like a real AR. To me it beats the VFC ones as even if they are a bit more realistic they don't have the balance of being that and also really reliable.
This will be a hard NO from me, this has the worst ammo capacity on the market for a saw, rendering it useless as a saw, and unrealistic as well. Cool concept, not practical, and given the brand & being a GBB, it wont be cheap enough to justify its shortcomings.
Hyped as f***
I hope this comes to europe
It's a nice collectors piece but no one will skirmish a support gun that feeds on mid caps unless they're playing against people using gbb rifles and real caps. If they make a feed adapter so it can use an AEG box mag and run external HPA from the grip then this would be a game changer and VFC would need to make more than one run of these.
This is for milsom, exactly what you just described.
@@Totemparadox Most milsims use midcaps for rifles with the support guns being the only thing with box mags/hicaps. GBBRs are more common at milsim games but they still aren't what the majority of players are using.
hi, the entire GBBR community would like to talk to you.
we run 35-50 round mags against people using AEGs and high capacity all the time.
@@slifer967 hi gbbr community. The support gunner community would like to introduce you to area denial, beaten zones and volume of fire. I won't deny you can go toe to toe with an aeg rifle using a gbbr (I own one too) but to be a really effective Airsoft support gunner you need a lot of plastic in the air.
Good for mil sim, terrible for airsoft. Seems like a lot of faff for only 100 rds, they could have figured out a much better way to feed bbs from the box mag, the gas res isn’t taking up that much room
stupid idea ! won't run in cold climates and limited ammo
Yea daytona it is😭
Man its really cool, love the CO2 options, but that reload is WACK
I want one
Dislike the mag
As a Dayton gun owner any GBB on full auto is just utterly disappointing.
It’s great to see an alternative platform for a blowback LMG and the hpa option looks interesting but with no lube in the hpa how will the parts hold up to LMG ware and tare?
Lube in the gas line is a perfect way to have garbage range and groupings and not lubricate any metal on metal contact points
Most Airsoft “green gas” is just propane with lube
@@jordan95budd which is garbage, you want to run straight propane that is dry
Not going to argue that as TBH I’ve only ever had a hand full of GBB pistol basically to have for a side arm because we all know “switching to your side arm is faster than reloading” 🥴
Been pure HPA with rifs for 6/8 years so probably only grabbed my pistol a hand full of time genuinely in a game to try and compete so I’m all ears to learn something I don’t know!
@@jordan95budd this video explains how to properly maintain gbb and briefly goes over why having oil in the gas is not good/extremely outdated
th-cam.com/video/5JPLe5R8-Ms/w-d-xo.html
Not gonna lie, the wig is a little yellowish on top today.
Nice
I got a Daytona A&K m249 in the mail.
I like it is only a 100rd mag.
This isn't a good lmg option... like it's mag is super small swapping those super small mags is ridiculous. I don't understand this gun at all. That tiny mag is suppose to suppress other players?
Most GBB options are not going to perform when compared to traditional AEGs. They're there foe the gimick and those who want more "realism"
@@Triforceking yeah I know this, it's more reason why this gun makes no sense. AEG lmgs in other ways are more realistic. This guns mag is it's super unrealistic factor
It's a collectors piece. If someone can convert it to use AEG M249 mags and a HPA line come out of the grip/stock then it would be a skirmish piece.
@@Rick_Makes I can agree with that. I've no idea how you would put a AEG mag on it though since it seems to be fed like a P90. Then the normal m4 style mag loader on this is how gas is fed.
@@WitchDoctor87 There might be a way to get an ammo feed through the belt feed with the spring tube from an AEG box mag hidden inside a custom hollow ammo belt. It would also leave the AR mag well clear for a gas feed line.
All I see is multiple issues on the field , realism great , REALITY on the field junk....
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Rad AH!
Dope!
This nuTTS? hahahha,...
Very poor, great concept but their missing the point of a support weapon, to lay down a high volume of rounds down range. That mag is smaller than a high cap,🤦
only worth running if its hpa tapped
Skill issue
Was excited until they started talking about it more. This is a really cool idea but stupid design and execution. This needs to go back to the drawing board.
They didn't "change the game". People have been doing HPA LMG's for years and it's twice as efficient as this
Useless...
How is this a game changer? Lol terrible design
hpa yes yes yes
There’s not enough BBs in it to really work as a cover weapon. I might as well just buy an a2
100 rounds is hella light though, espcially on a lmg
Not really for a Gas blow back gun. Most GBBs have a similar mag capacity as their real counterparts.
@@YoChocolate I understand that I'm not an idiot lol. My point is, they took the mag and made it purely a gas reservoir, therefore why did y'all only get 100 rounds out of the actual mag, they didn't try hard enough thast why, it's an aeg mag at that point so I mean like 110 like mp5s is asking too much......120 130 I don't think 150 was pushing too much, it's an lmg they have the room
We need 500 or more, and im not sure we can get that without a winding mag.
@@krolentertainment3533 I get where youre coming from. Like @Doggie said its probably because you would need a winding mag for more. I guess they went with the decision to use the actual magazine as a gas tank only so that you almost never have to refill gas. That of course means reloading BBs more often so yeah, its probably not the best solution..
Let me guess, you're the distributor for the US. SO.... how few BBs does it hold, looks like maybe 30? PASS!