Isn’t that nice. The politician had 8 cars on a property he owns get stripped of parts and immediately introduced a new law to stop it. Why does it take so long to do that when they’re not personally affected?
Tampering with an emission device is a federal offense. Specifically, it says removal as one of the qualifiers. The feds have cannabis prohibition so which gets the 5 o'clock news?
@@billsmith3493 they won't prosecute them but now they are going to fine or imprison anyone in NY who gets caught putting an aftermarket muffler on their vehicle
He’s exploiting a loophole to SELL the converters - not to steal them. The exploiting of the loophole happens after they’ve been stolen not before Stupid and inaccurate headline.
On top of that, when discussing what you can do to prevent, they fail to mention the extruded metal cage that was featured earlier in the video. And they include 'insurance" under the same category of "preventing".
It's so sad. Every one of those catalytic converters shown in the video represents an individual or family losing hundreds of dollars, many of which cannot do without.
each one shows the stupidity of Ohio Lawmakers. Once again leaning towards the side of criminals over families who do not break the law. See a trend in the US? soft on crime
Absence of law is not a loophole. In fact, the man, via the creation of a business, was adhering to the law to sell the converters- with the exception of how he was acquiring the converters. So, theft and selling stolen property was the crime and it wasn’t being done via a loophole.
@@Parker-- still the word loophole is a bullshit word for their failure at solving a problem or used for political or social attack against an opponent or adversary to present in a bad light
@@littlestone1541 Just saw a guy with 22 convictions throw a 62-year old nurse down a flight of stairs and bashing her head in at the train station in Seattle. Bail was set at $150,000. The lady suffered a broken collarbone and is in the hospital. He'll post bond, and find someone else to rob. At least, this scumbag won't be going anywhere with his bail so high. Most people commenting put this crime up there with the most deplorable ever imagined. I guess paying for a catalytic converter is a worse crime than being murdered (that's if you don't have insurance on it). Money talks.
Years ago, I had a cat stolen in a state owned park and ride at a train station... they had cameras, but claimed they 'couldn't see the thief in action' on any of them. Had i been there, broken bones at a minimum. Laying on the ground is already a bad defensive position- i agree with op
He was in a ring of people doing the same thing and had a ridiculous amount of money at his disposal from the theft, so with a bond he would probably have gotten out easy
Many time they said the bond is higher than a murderer but actually they take the theft to the police station for seating one hour then he can go home with paying nothing.
@Several shades Lighter than gray why does it matter that its a black felon? felon with a gun is enough and you arent a racist asshole when you say it that way...just trying to help, from one lighter than gray to another
@@Delta-mo6hn The point of a reasonable bond is so that you can leave. Most criminals have bonds so they can. Stealing is one of those things that's usually set quite low. In this case he probably pissed off too many people if he had stolen from only the poor his bond might be like 10K.
Doesn't this technically teach: "do crimes to politicians so they can make meaningful changes" or something? Sure you would take the fall, but hey, you might get some valuable internet clout ya know? (in case you are wondering, I am joking lmao)
I love how the officer tried to frame it as he was the first one to do it even though the state is one of the the worst in terms of this crime so he clearly wasn't the first
A home refinery would cost around $2000 to set up and could remove and refine 100 catalytic converters a day. That's a $36 million a year operation. Not sure why anyone who steals that many wouldn't set up their own refinery.
Actually not. He stole from the wrong person. If he had killed a loved one of that same person (who is in the video). The story wouldn't even make "the news". Society values anything over human life. My neighbors might trade their kids for their dogs (white folks).. 🤷🏻♂️
the scrap yards need to be held accountable also. They know when a clean looking converter is brought in that it's stolen. I am a mechanic and the only time they really need replaced is if it's rusted away and leaking. it's rare that you have one that fails on emissions that looks in great shape.
I agree we had a bike theft ring here in my area. A bunch of losers going around stealing kids bikes to scrap. The junkyard got tired of parents showing up to retrieve their kids bikes so he stopped taking them.
no one needs to be held accountable until our system helps working people first so they dont feel a need to do criminal things just to eat and survive Edit: let's get this to 300 likes guys!
I’ve scraped about 10 that looked great, the vehicles were totaled. A few parts went on eBay, and the rest of the car was scraped in the end. I had titles, but they were never titled in my name.
A Father of 5 and Grandfather he’s a disgusting example for his family and perpetuates the selfish, entitled, ‘it’s all about me’ criminal mindset. Totally gross and disgraceful!
@@earlthepearl6414 It's to see if cops or competition come calling. My brother in law's neighbor is the same way. The neighbor has all of the windows covered and has cameras all around the outside. Anyone can claim it's suspicious, but it's not illegal to just be 'suspicious'. My brother in law is a cop and he's been waiting to catch his neighbor with something visibly criminal outside - even with his background, his hands are tied.
such are the ironies of economic stagnation and massive wealth inequality. its almost like its built into the system of capitalism to allow for exploitation for the rich and imprisonment for the starving and desperate.
@@the_beat_thief Your brother in law is chomping at the bit to arrest someone he suspects of nefarious deeds yet would likely take no issue stealing money roadside with Civil Asset Forfeiture. Every bit of our society is trying to screw over each other for a profit.
make prisons work camps and they can work for as long as it takes to repay his victims. they can clean parks, roads, homeless camps . they could make furniture. the feds had a furniture factory inmates made money for the government and a little for themselves.
Yeah he’s living in a multimillion dollar mansion with all those security cameras. Just love thieves.at least he doesn’t have a couple of pitbulls chained up outside. Kudos for that .
@@tinawindham6958 If he had pitbulls, they would be stolen too. He spent all the money on what ever buzz he's addicted to. Not much left over for the house and family.
what kids? and did you see his house? not exactly a mansion . and even lazy people who don't work have those too you know. it's not only "hard working" people getting stolen from. and stealing them is work, it's not like he's "sitting back" and having more kids. everything you said except GOOD JOB is false.
this guy was working hard and recyling. he even registered a business. you dont do shit all day you dont own a business youre just a loser minimum wage jabroni
just be glad you're not in California where only OEM parts are allowed. it would have been $3,000 per vehicle instead of $1500. Anyways if the government can't protect my converter, then I won't have one. strait pipe it is.
Yeah no doubt, my cousin here in new York had one stolen ,so we figured go on Amazon and order a new one. NY is a clean air state , required a 50 state cat. 640$. They listed the 48 state cat for 350$,but it can't get shipped here. Thank God for a buddy in Connecticut he had it sent to ,and then he went and picked it up. Saved a fortune.
Here's an idea. Instead of a law "closing the loophole" how about trying this unique idea... "When someone commits a crime, and is convicted, you put them in jail. THEN (and here's the crazy part) you KEEP them in jail until they serve their sentence." You would be surprised at how few catalytic converters are stolen by people sitting in jail.
Just keep letting people get away with it like every state has been doing for years and years. It’s sickening. Start giving these scumbags 50 years in prison for first offense and crime may slow down or just keep giving probation and it’ll keep getting worse. I’m so sick of the complaining from everyone!! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!
Even if you catch the thief in the act before he/she get away with your CC, if they’ve already begun the sawing process, you’re still looking at a substantial repair bill to include if the mechanic can actually still use your equipment. The problem is that there are any number of auto parts dealers willing to look the other way to make a quick buck. Someone rolling up to a salvage yard with a truck full of CC should be immediately reported to law enforcement. If they were legitimately obtain, complete the transaction and move on. Thieves won’t steal these things if there’s not a market to fence them through.
@@aeromedical6776 it’s the point though, people would think twice if there was a tough sentence for doing it to begin with. Criminals do it because they aren’t afraid of the $500 bond when they’re making $20,000 a week stealing them.
True, a loophole implies that it's a way to legally do something otherwise illegal. If the acts had been legal, the police wouldn't even have had a reason to arrest that suspect. The new law fixes the problem that it was too easy to get away with the crime of stealing car parts. Or if you want, with the crime of dealing in stolen car parts (which had also been illegal before).
@@Pystro The "loophole" as I understand it is you create a fake business to sell as many converters as you want, where otherwise you have to sell them 1 at a time.
They should confiscate and sell his property to reimburse everybody he stole from until the repairs are paid for. Cars, guns, and even his house if need be.
@@Tyshkevich that’s the second part of this equation. Any time one is turned in, you should be required to supply the vin of the vehicle it was removed from. No need to go any deeper than that. As soon as one vehicle rings out with five replacements, you take that guy down.
We had a problem with people stealing copper electrical wiring and copper water pipes. Our D.A. told the local scrap yards that if they took pictures of ID for scrappers and made a picture of the items being scrapped, they had no worry from him. If they failed to comply, they would be charged with receiving stolen property. They complied and thefts of wire and pipe are almost zero.
Yeah it’s not hard to enforce, the scrap yards typically know when they’re taking stolen goods but usually there’s no repercussions for them so they don’t care. They just have to be pushed to put forth the smallest amount of effort to verify the stuff they’re buying is legit, and 95% of it would stop. The problem is they see a crack head trying to sell a cat, and they know it’s stolen, so in their mind it’s an opportunity to lowball and get a cat much cheaper than from a legitimate source. A guy who owns a muffler shop won’t take $50 for a cat he knows is worth $300, but a crack head with a stolen cat will take that $50 and run because he just wants to be rid of it.
I lived in a neighborhood where a family put their home up for sale. They vacated it as he had accepted a job in another state and moved his family accordingly with him. He was handling the sale through a realtor. Well, some POS must have been scouting out the place and knew it was empty unless it was being shown. Somehow in the middle of the night (without alerting anyone) they removed all the copper piping from the A/C system and pretty much destroyed it. How you could do this without waking up the neighbors is beyond me, but they did it. The guy ended up having to file a claim and get the unit replaced which I’m sure ran into the $8-$10K price range.
2 Things I hate, are liars and thieves. My Great Grand Mother always said "If you can lie, you can steal and if you can steal you can kill". I can understand why some societies chop off the hands of thieves.
Well people in poor ass countries steal to live. You really shouldn't have to do it in America so the arm chopping thing here would be reasonable for repeat offenders, imo.
If you agree with chopping someone's hand off for a minor crime then you'll agree with killing people for minor crimes, and if you'll agree with killing people for minor crimes then you'll agree with killing people for things that aren't even crimes.
Even an honest man should be able to kill somebody when their hands get forced. If I shoot dead a home invader that doesn't mean I'd also steal from you.
The scrap buyers need to be held accountable. Really how many cats should someone sell 1 a day is crazy your lucky if you have 1 bad cat that needs replaced in your entire life.
Well I'm glad he was caught aslo. But since everything has almost doubled in price so should all of the bail increase to keep up with inflation. As for murderers and rapists the same should apply. This State is just to soft on those crimes.
People that do this are Scum and will forever have Bad Karma! If it’s not yours Do Not Touch it! You don’t mess with working folks vehicles or anyone’s! Pathetic Trash!
@@ernk2830 Police confiscated stolen property all the time and then sell it for profit. Cops profit from stolen catalytic converters. Let that sink in your head.
@@0.0.0.0.1 contraband which is no longer needed is destroyed unclaimed general property is sold through public actions. That's the context your leaving out but ok.
@@ernk2830 I'm sure they sell the contraband also. Cops are corrupt in all ways! I'm guessing your a thin blue line lover. "Back the blue until it happens to you!"
@@0.0.0.0.1 its just common knowledge but i'm sure the news would love your story and hopefully you have the evidence to go with it. I back whats right its quite simple and less stressful. If you were buying stuff at an auction you knew was stolen then your just as corrupt using your logic, or the type to be like well i did not steal it but don't mind buying it lol, again just as corrupt. gotta love it calling people corrupt when you participate in the alleged corruption.
What an outstanding citizen. So when someone shows up to the scrap yard with like 30 converters no one finds that suspicious and calls the cops? especially with this fine looking guy dropping them off?!?!
@@cr0w342 when you can sell the junk online to another state or the 3 recent times I tried to sell scrap cars that I got tons of emails in Florida all over the state of people not wanting the vehicles just the cats like I said im not buying it
Somebody stole my neighbor's catalytic converter while he was grocery shopping. His Toyota pickup is over 20 years old. He took it in to the exhaust shop to get it repaired. They said it was gonna cost dang near a $1000.00 to replace it. He couldn't afford that, he's 73 yo and on Social Security. He went to Harbor Freight and bought a cheap wire feed welder a welding mask and a 2 ft section of exhaust pipe at the auto parts store. He fixed it himself for about $300.
@@cable30 Well its illegal in most states (actually all of them I think), but the question is unless the pigs are looking to book you on something, they probably won't know unless you have to pass inspections.
"He got higher bond than most murderers" Thats right, They want to make sure no family or friends could afford to bail him out. He looks like He won't even show up at his own trial if he's out on bail.
If he's a flight risk, he shouldn't have had a bond at all. He's clearly guilty of some crimes here so he should get comfortable in prison. Hey, look at it from a positive side. Do the softer jail time for a few months and save that from the rougher prison sentence.
3 of the dumbest comments ive ever heard theft is a low level offense and he has a bond higher than a murder suspect..that just shows how fucked up the judicial system is and how it punishes crimes according to popular opinion instead real merit..and yall defending that shit are part of the problem not the solution..granted he committed several crimes but if a woman beater or child molester can post bail than why is a thief being so unfairly treated.
Let’s also hear more about this credit card making machine found. I’m surprised he even went the legal way to file and get a legit business permit as a front. This tool has an identity theft gig going as well… talk about diversifying your portfolio. 😂😂
Also felon in possession of a firearm. I'm just guessing, but I'd bet money he's already a felon. Anyways, possession of a firearm in the commission of a crime.
I’m a recent victim of this. I’m a father of three kids and I owned a minivan with car seats in it. Clearly owned by a family but these thieves don’t give a shit. I was more disappointed in society than I was actually mad. How can some people stoop so low and ruin the life of others… now my kids and i have to take public transportation. The only upside is that it happened right after the winter ended.
You shouldn't be suprised amigo, considering 30 million of your compadres are illegally in the country, along with their anchor babies. Karma for your being a border hopper. Don't bother coming up with a sob story about how you are legal.
probably because their lives are rough too and we dont exactly live in a society where people are looking out for each other, so theyre looking out for themselves by stealing and making a little money... they dont "not care" about families because theyre cruel people, sure some are, but most of them see it as a way to make money because theyre struggling outside of it
@@maxtm3000 they got to that point 90% of the time by being idiots. Meanwhile thee victims are the honest family people. Don’t try to justify it or paint the thieves in an honest light, they are scum
@@maxtm3000 they’re mostly drug addicts and career criminals like the guy in this video. Most of them are big operations like he was and I guarantee you a guy who steals 1100 cats doesn’t care about the people he screws.
Our highest level of police in America only made 2 arrests for Epstein island when thousands of child rapists were indulging there. Why would anyone really care about some catalytic converters? Our country is a fucking disaster.
You guys said the thief was the first person to figure out the loophole, but then blamed that loophole for the fact that Ohio is 8th in the nation for most catalytic converters stolen. Did this thief figure it out first, but a long time ago?
@Jacko Sargs Maybe true except the video you're commenting on explicitly blamed the loophole for the fact that Ohio is 8th in stolen converters, which is why I'm asking the question
The places accepting need to be held accountable just as much as the thieves simply because they one how they're getting them, by stealing them, yet they're still buying stolen goods. I'll never understand why the very people who fuel these types of crimes and worst aren't held accountable just as much as the people at the bottom.
how would we know that the cats are stolen? yes you can assume that they are but at the same time that dude could own an actual legit wrecker yard. you meet a lot of characters in the scrap metal industry, to just assume everyone is stealing everything is a good way to put yourself out of business.
@@scrapmanindustries everyone pay attention to this business name. Post it an let people know they support thievery. They are total douche and trash. They buy them to support their own drug habits
@@scrapmanindustries You are absolutely right, brother. But how many people who bring in multiple cats consistently have a business in their name or even just work for one? Not many. They even said he figured out a loophole, not that others have as well. And besides, there's so much theft going on it made the news. While his case is something, it's not the norm. You have a duty to be legit. Rather you're a child of God or just a decent businessman. You have a duty.
@@steevehoyoufat9155 that's exactly what I'm saying. you would actually be very surprised to see the amount of stuff people bring in consistently. if some dude claims to have a wrecker yard he's going to be coming in with loads of cats consistently. especially if he's going straight to the cat buyers since that's all they deal with and have tons of repeat customers. I've seen all sorts of people come into the scales. some people that look like they would be homeless driving around in 1990's beat up work vans, really got millions of dollars and run huge ass factories. if someone brings in papers and shows us they got a business or even better yet a scrap dealer license which in Ohio isn't that hard to get by the way, it doesn't matter what I think of that person or how they are acquiring their stuff. they would technically be legit. do I need to go send out a crew to inspect every property someone claims to own or operate before I buy from them? there is absolutely no way possible to stop scrap metal theft completely. if you hold yards liable for the actions of their customers you will not have any yards at all. although I do see your point where if a yard knowingly buys stolen goods it is their fault. but unless the dude is in there bragging about it or we hear other customers talking about that dude how are we as buyers able to prove that the goods this guy is trying to sell are stolen? what should we do? stop sales all together? throw everything in the landfill and forget about metal recycling altogether? that will just create a black market for metal and cause all sorts of pollution. stopping this problem at its highest level is a lot more complicated then it seems. it really needs to be stopped at its lowest levels with a swift boot (or better yet a 45acp) to the face.
@@scrapmanindustries I concede, brother. You're 100% correct. Plus I've even went there a few times looking shady just because I'm going to a scrap yard. I didn't even think about it from that perspective, especially about the black market. Pardon my ignorance, brethren. I guess I showed my hand that I was too a victim of cat theft. And on my 2001 beater when that was my only car at the time at that. I didn't think about the position it would put you guys in. But now that I think about it, car designers and manufacturers know all to well about this situation and should come up with a better design to at least make it harder for thieves with all of the money they pay their designers on the first place. I'm sure that wouldn't be hard for them at all.
@@Anonymous-jv7ys it's nice driving a vehicle what doesn't need or have a converter ,i live in Iowa and they don't require inspections here or SMOG checks ,,huge numbers of vehicles would be JUNKED if inspections were required ,,all the salt used on our roads DESTROY vehicles ,,,i'm currently rebuilding a 2010 chevy 3500 which had a hole rusted in it's frame due to salt ,,there are hundreds of thousands of vehicles in iowa and nebraska that should be parked and junked because of rust ,with no inspections it never happens
It seem like law enforcement and govt is fine with people being victims. We've been hit several times. Stopping the thefts would require stakeouts and surveillance. Something that cops rarely do anymore.
@@rwalker0130 Truth. I worked police for two years. Catalytic theft was infuriatingly common in my area. Problem is, half the time I was the only officer on shift in my entire area. Can't be everywhere at once.
When you go easy on homeless tweakers, you get more vehicle crimes -- they steal catalytic converters, to trade for meth or heroin. They're addicted, so no law is going to stop them. The cats get melted down, which destroys the evidence. You have to put criminals in prison. That's the only way to reduce crime. It works every time. And when the prisons fill up, you build more.
This dude is only 41??? Daaaamn he looks 55. Lock these losers up and throw away the key! They are stealing from those of us working the hardest! I hate thieves!
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@@chuckyyes stealing is not right. It’s costing a lot of money for these victims. I been stolen from and it doesn’t feel real good. Sounds like you don’t give a fck.
Cops just think u can claim your stuff on your homeowners ins. Same with car insurance. My ex bf gets about 2 DUI/year. Baldwin co, Al. If u r from there, u don’t have to follow the laws. He’s 65 and when he does run over some kids at 9 am drunk as a skunk I hope it’s the judges and DA’s kids. They pad the attorneys pockets but don’t give a damn if he’s clean and sober. Take his truck! Put a breathalyzer on his big ol boat! I’m sick I pay so much in car ins with no infractions and drive just a few miles every week.
Here in Texas, these thieves have been shot while doing this... I remember an article awhile back where the owner of the vehicle just got in the vehicle and drove over the thief before he could get out from under the car... I don't have a problem with either of these two solutions...
My family had an oil company in Texas and this happened in the late 80's. They kept getting equipment stolen form their property. Eventually my family was told by a law enfacement official that if they caught the thieves to just shoot them. make sure the thieves are on their property, and to call this guy directly and he would take care of it.
Make it a federal crime to steal one of these since the federal government mandates them be on every IC engine powered vehicle. Do not pass go, do not collect $100.
Not if their look guy shoots you first or you go to jail because you killed someone. It’s not a good situation ..I say that because a few people in my area have caught these people and they got shot or shot at …
This happened to my grand am about 10 years ago or so. The car was never the same after. Constantly had to put money into it after that because of sensors coming on. I wish I’d have caught the sob under my car I’d have run him over.
@@ASSOOOJACK well at the time I got it fixed I put a better converter on it and I knew the mechanic so he put it in for me cheap. It cost me 220 for the converter and I threw him a case of beer and put a 100 inside the case. But man I loved that car. It was my first car my parents bought it for me when I graduated HS. Car was worth about 3k at the time. But damn it sucked
Well Mike, the op here, yes I think there are plenty of people that have a problem with that. The least of which probably is _NOT_ Tommy Cox himself, the "mastermind" responsible for this particular crime ring.
@@deanmartin6052 Spray paint, just like the news says spray paint stops thieves (that's a joke, I have no idea how that's suppose to do anything and its laughable the news is actually suggesting something THAT stupid, I mean it is the news, but that's pretty dumb even for them)
Cat thieves will most likely have only one form of cutting tool with them. A pipe cutter, or sawzall. Weld a heavy gauge steel rod along side the cat and sufficient length of the exhaust and that will greatly increase the time it takes to chop out a cat depending on quality/size of materials. Personally, I prefer the "failed jack stand" method.
Pneumatic suspension with the relief lines (sealed under normal circumstances) running along the exhaust.... A poorly planned/hasty cut, and the vehicle descends... I doubt the worth of such a thing, legal defense would be quite expensive if things went down as planned. It might be safer to rig capsules of skunk stink on the exhaust plumbing where they'd probably get nicked when someone makes the attempt... Bank die packs might be even more effective
I think they use portable, battery powered Sawzalls, and it only takes a minute to slice through, like butter. I don't know how to prevent it, but you could probably use the section of exhaust that has the catalytic converter as a conductor for an alarm sensor. After the first cut, the alarm would scare them off, especially if the siren is pointing right at the cat.
Sue the state for failing to protect the business and public. Sue for damages and taxes taken from the business. Take it to the Supreme Court for lawmaker incompetence
@@Cle_M3 Cool, ill just take it out of my taxes since the government doesn't seem to wanna do anything. Isnt this why im paying them ? (Its because they'll assault and kidnap you if you dont)
Police don't even have a duty to protect you, let alone your property. Legally they are allowed to do nothing and watch you get raped or murdered (depends on the cops fetish of course), but they have no legal obligation to help you. Also they will just tax you twice as much, because each dollar needs to line the politicians pockets as well as all the new people they need for the inefficient reimbursement system. The government doesn't care, its your money...
at that much bond? think again. no one gets off 40 felonies with less than two....you're just ranting now about how you didn't get away with cheating on your math homework
@@trentdawg2832 my dad wrapped all of his tool handles with a piece of really old and sticky flame duct tape and that stopped his co workers from stealing his tools
One converter, per person, per day, per scrapyard? That sounds like a lot of converters all by itself. Considering I've never once had the need to scrap one of these. And assuming that curbing the thefts is the goal here. One "per year" sounds much more reasonable.
I thought the SAME thing, unless they have others working for them; but that wouldn't work either because their cohort can just take off with the money/goods.
How do you log that? Now you need a huge automated registry system, and also now you've prevented most recycling, so good job adding to the trash... Unintended consequences are real.
What's sadder is that vehicle makers have not re-designed the exhaust systems to protect the cats from being simply cut out, US based manufacturers should have taken note by now.
@Eye of Saturn but the people stealing usually don't have a job and you gotta make pretty good per hour to take in 1,600 plus a week and don't forget all of the ones they steal are money that day with no taxes etc
@@cgfh8673 Except their solution (to a man who hires a gang of criminals, each could sell 365/year "legally" even under this new law), is to just make it so legitimate businesses need a mile long paper trail for old scrap? The guy is making his own counterfeit credit cards, you think he can't print out false sales records either? How stupid are these politicians? Oh wait, probably the same ones that write gun control... Doesn't affect criminals, only the law abiding.
@@cgfh8673 if he had such a "criminal enterprise" I can assure you that 1cat a day 365 days a year wouldn't affect his so called enterprise in the slightest. first off - being the supposed enterprise it is, wouldn't be interested in losing the most profitable part of the process... they'd be smelting and then flipping the metals themselves. secondly - enterprises consist of hundreds of more likely thousands of individuals. so let's say he had near minimum of 1000 people.. that'd be 1000 a day or 365,000 a year! don't forget, as your enterprise grows, so do the number of individuals! "you sure seem to be the type that doesn't seem to think before they speak".... ah, the irony! oh wait no you said "one of those people who love to argue so much but, *continued above*"
@@scottrichard2954 Looks like your trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I wasn't trying to argue with you but you seem to be putting up a fight over the words "criminal enterprise". He created a business, had multiple members working under him, bought tracking devices, etc. It was organized and I could've just called it organized crime but however small or large the operation was its still an enterprise of the criminal kind. Enterprise definition: a project or undertaking, typically one that is difficult or requires effort. Yeah you fucked up son don't talk shit if you can't back it up
Set up your car on airbags and tie the deflation of airbags to a circuit thru exhaust, cut the pipe and the circuit is cut and bags deflate and crush the thief.
Not sure what part of Ohio it was, but I was listening to the radio, and they found a guy crushed to death under a Toyota Corolla, awhile back. I always thought they worked in teams.
Good, fill the landfill and make recycling precious rare metals illegal... Also go burn the planet while you're at it. This comment section severely lowers my faith in human intellegence.
@@godshammgod6852 Except that's pretty stupid when its just a dented cat... You do know that these are a high damage item right? Like first they don't have infinite life (many states due to emissions requirements fail these about every 50k miles, because the converter itself wears out), then also if you hit a bump off-road, or a board flies up and whacks the underside of your vehicle you're in the same boat. Replace the whole car each time? Are you crazy?
I was honest (I was often treated like a thief) Cu scrapper for 5 years. I never found 1 catalytic converter, so unless someone is in a industry handling cc's, there's no way scrap yard doesn't know a big bunch is stolen.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS Scrap yards don't "melt down" cats, or anything else. They resell them to other recyclers that in turn process them. Catalytic converters are cut open and the precious metals are removed and processed for reuse. The rest of it is then recycled.
"he got a higher bond than most murderers" geez bro.dont say that part out loud or.people will figure out that people only care about white collar and economic crime
Isn’t that nice. The politician had 8 cars on a property he owns get stripped of parts and immediately introduced a new law to stop it. Why does it take so long to do that when they’re not personally affected?
Ironic huh?
You make a great point!
I guess if it happens to them then it matter.
Because he hadn't been personally affected, until he was personally affected.
It's almost like there's a cause and effect where *his* interests are concerned. Hmmm.
He's not exploiting loopholes to steal. He's exploiting to sell what he steals. Huge difference
Yep, the title is extremely confusing.
It's the scarp yards that buy these!
yeah, lame headline
He is exploiting a loophole in the law.
As an English teacher, I thank you for pointing out the flaw in a title like this.
Since catalytic converters are required by Federal law it should be a federal offense for stealing one
AGREED
Brilliant comment!
Tampering with an emission device is a federal offense. Specifically, it says removal as one of the qualifiers. The feds have cannabis prohibition so which gets the 5 o'clock news?
@@billsmith3493 they won't prosecute them but now they are going to fine or imprison anyone in NY who gets caught putting an aftermarket muffler on their vehicle
If caught trying/ stealing should be a mandatory minimum of 10 years in federal prison with zero chance of early release.
He’s exploiting a loophole to SELL the converters - not to steal them. The exploiting of the loophole happens after they’ve been stolen not before
Stupid and inaccurate headline.
On top of that, when discussing what you can do to prevent, they fail to mention the extruded metal cage that was featured earlier in the video. And they include 'insurance" under the same category of "preventing".
@@kcgunesq 3 methods, engrave your vehicles license plate and Vin # in it, use high temperature paint and weld a steel plate over it
@@dylanclay2741 waste of time & easily defeated easily by a grinder. The junkyard also would care less about a engraved VIN
@@kfelix2934 junkyards around here refuse to take any converters with a vin grinnded off or hi vis paint
To shit with any loophole. Hes a piece of shit thief.
Engraving doesn’t work due to thieves grinding the engraving. Cages help. Shooting the thief works best!
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ABSOLUTELY INDEED !!!!!
Lol 😂
Yeah if you want to go to prison
Lol hide the trash
Lawmakers care about the things they think will keep them in office, they don't care about your problems unless they think they can benefit.
Only the truly smart people realize this. Lawmakers are looking out for themselves, not you
I agree with you. It's been like this for a while too.
Some of the truest words ever spoked.
Wait until they steal the politician's catalytic converters and let's see how fast that s*** changes!
What!?!? Marco Rubio and Rick Scott aren't looking out for me? I trusted those guys!!
It's so sad. Every one of those catalytic converters shown in the video represents an individual or family losing hundreds of dollars, many of which cannot do without.
each one shows the stupidity of Ohio Lawmakers. Once again leaning towards the side of criminals over families who do not break the law. See a trend in the US? soft on crime
Moreover it represents a white man thief who went headline for the narritive.
@Teyae T I like to sodomize dogs within churches
Lol the vehicle runs just fine without it. The problem? The mob demands you have one on your vehicle, or else they extort money from you.
Insurance
Absence of law is not a loophole. In fact, the man, via the creation of a business, was adhering to the law to sell the converters- with the exception of how he was acquiring the converters. So, theft and selling stolen property was the crime and it wasn’t being done via a loophole.
Also a law isn't a loophole, loophole is a made up political word for some politician to use when they don't like the outcome
The loophole was about selling more than one per day, not the legality of the entire operation.
@@Parker-- still the word loophole is a bullshit word for their failure at solving a problem or used for political or social attack against an opponent or adversary to present in a bad light
Yep as long as u aquire with consent it should not be a problem to sell
Can't they just go after the scrapyards for receiving stolen property? You've gotta know something's fishy.
Anyone who puts a tracker on another person's vehicle should be jailed.
He is in jail
OK I couldn't figure out what the cop was saying. I thought the cop put the tracker on.
Your actually carrying a tracker around all day long... "It's your cell phone"
@@notadoctor2598 so is jumping the border ! And nobody's doing a thing about it ! Vote these devil Democraps out in November 😜
Phone. Sensitive to your location within a foot. GPS location works wether you choose "turn off location" or not.
He's got a bond higher than most murderers lol this guy should be lucky he didn't get murdered stealing all those people's shit
Still, the fact that most murderers get a lower bond than a thief is some backwards sh!t
Because he is exploiting a loophole.
Find a loophole and watch..
@@littlestone1541 Just saw a guy with 22 convictions throw a 62-year old nurse down a flight of stairs and bashing her head in at the train station in Seattle. Bail was set at $150,000. The lady suffered a broken collarbone and is in the hospital. He'll post bond, and find someone else to rob. At least, this scumbag won't be going anywhere with his bail so high. Most people commenting put this crime up there with the most deplorable ever imagined. I guess paying for a catalytic converter is a worse crime than being murdered (that's if you don't have insurance on it). Money talks.
Bond is set for three reasons not just the crime. BTW, bail is not set for any murder.
Years ago, I had a cat stolen in a state owned park and ride at a train station... they had cameras, but claimed they 'couldn't see the thief in action' on any of them. Had i been there, broken bones at a minimum. Laying on the ground is already a bad defensive position- i agree with op
“He has a higher bond than most murderers” well god damn lol don’t fuck with the politicians vehicles 😂
He was in a ring of people doing the same thing and had a ridiculous amount of money at his disposal from the theft, so with a bond he would probably have gotten out easy
Many time they said the bond is higher than a murderer but actually they take the theft to the police station for seating one hour then he can go home with paying nothing.
@Several shades Lighter than gray why does it matter that its a black felon? felon with a gun is enough and you arent a racist asshole when you say it that way...just trying to help, from one lighter than gray to another
@@Delta-mo6hn The point of a reasonable bond is so that you can leave. Most criminals have bonds so they can. Stealing is one of those things that's usually set quite low. In this case he probably pissed off too many people if he had stolen from only the poor his bond might be like 10K.
Doesn't this technically teach: "do crimes to politicians so they can make meaningful changes" or something?
Sure you would take the fall, but hey, you might get some valuable internet clout ya know?
(in case you are wondering, I am joking lmao)
I love how the officer tried to frame it as he was the first one to do it even though the state is one of the the worst in terms of this crime so he clearly wasn't the first
right? Theres only 5400 other Ohio business that you can sell convertors to daily. At any amount, no limit..
"The government doesn't want you to know this but you can sell as many as catalytic converters as you want. I had sold 1100 catalytic converters."
That’s $1,000,000
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A home refinery would cost around $2000 to set up and could remove and refine 100 catalytic converters a day. That's a $36 million a year operation. Not sure why anyone who steals that many wouldn't set up their own refinery.
@@nunyabiznez6381 because 90% of them smoke meth and if they could build something at home it would most likely be a dentist office lol
@@double_o_dan I stand corrected.
"He got a higher bond than most murderers."
Direct proof that society values money more than human life. Smh.
Planned Parenthood joins the chat
you sound like a winner
Actually not.
He stole from the wrong person.
If he had killed a loved one of that same person (who is in the video).
The story wouldn't even make "the news".
Society values anything over human life.
My neighbors might trade their kids for their dogs (white folks).. 🤷🏻♂️
To be honest, people ain’t worth much and that’s why there’s billions of us.
@@tralala9410 oh look another conversation and the race card is pulled
the scrap yards need to be held accountable also. They know when a clean looking converter is brought in that it's stolen. I am a mechanic and the only time they really need replaced is if it's rusted away and leaking. it's rare that you have one that fails on emissions that looks in great shape.
I agree we had a bike theft ring here in my area. A bunch of losers going around stealing kids bikes to scrap. The junkyard got tired of parents showing up to retrieve their kids bikes so he stopped taking them.
Cars scraped after accidents all have their cats cut out before scrapping. Are you sure you're a mechanic because we all know this?
no one needs to be held accountable until our system helps working people first so they dont feel a need to do criminal things just to eat and survive
Edit: let's get this to 300 likes guys!
Good info. Something needs to be done to cover all the bases regarding cat theft.
I’ve scraped about 10 that looked great, the vehicles were totaled. A few parts went on eBay, and the rest of the car was scraped in the end. I had titles, but they were never titled in my name.
A Father of 5 and Grandfather he’s a disgusting example for his family and perpetuates the selfish, entitled, ‘it’s all about me’ criminal mindset. Totally gross and disgraceful!
Ironic that he has security cameras on his house while stealing from others.
I guess he doesn't like to get stolen from.
@@earlthepearl6414 It's to see if cops or competition come calling. My brother in law's neighbor is the same way. The neighbor has all of the windows covered and has cameras all around the outside. Anyone can claim it's suspicious, but it's not illegal to just be 'suspicious'. My brother in law is a cop and he's been waiting to catch his neighbor with something visibly criminal outside - even with his background, his hands are tied.
such are the ironies of economic stagnation and massive wealth inequality. its almost like its built into the system of capitalism to allow for exploitation for the rich and imprisonment for the starving and desperate.
@@the_beat_thief Your brother in law is chomping at the bit to arrest someone he suspects of nefarious deeds yet would likely take no issue stealing money roadside with Civil Asset Forfeiture.
Every bit of our society is trying to screw over each other for a profit.
How come, just cuz u steal doesnt mean u wanna get stolen from ?
Because he was mostly targeting business owners, the court system was very aggressive against him.
He is a criminal and was dealt with
4 million bond.. I don't think he be getting out any time soon...
@@swagon4545 I think the families of his victims should decide what should happen to him.
4 million dollar bond.
@@swagon4545 he stole like 1.2 million worth of those things.
That man looks exactly like he steals catalytic converters.
Yep, the platinum earrings gave him away.
It wasn't the earrings, pal. His mug is that of a typical meth addict.
yup 🤣
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He looks like the word "catalytic"
make prisons work camps and they can work for as long as it takes to repay his victims. they can clean parks, roads, homeless camps . they could make furniture. the feds had a furniture factory inmates made money for the government and a little for themselves.
Keep him and his GF in jail.
Execution would be more suitable.
Did you see her? They gonna need a big ol' jail cell.
Father of five and a grandfather, what a perfect role model to his grandchildren.
It reminds me of the panhandler who took his young son with him when he plied his trade. Like father, like son.
with a whale galfriend
@@hksp she sits on end of vehicles and then it does a wheelie and workers walk under and cut cat out
Gotta be fun at Thanksgiving and Christmas family gatherings. What to get gramps for christmas? of course, he needs some saw blades !!
An all around classy guy 🤪
I'm glad he got caught. Sounds like he was into a lot of illegal activities. Creepy.
Yeah he’s living in a multimillion dollar mansion with all those security cameras. Just love thieves.at least he doesn’t have a couple of pitbulls chained up outside. Kudos for that .
Hmmm sounds like the Biden administration. Creepy & into lots of illegal activities 😳 😬
@@tinawindham6958 If he had pitbulls, they would be stolen too. He spent all the money on what ever buzz he's addicted to. Not much left over for the house and family.
A couple of pitbulls chained outside. Wtf does that mean?
Nahhh bruh can’t even have an exhaust in Ohio💀
Good job everyone catching this F thief!! Just sickening out stealing hard working people's things while he just sat back n had more kids!!
OK , so these people already live in crappy place , it can only go more downhill
More kids that we probably pay for...
Yep another piss poor excuse for a human being.
what kids? and did you see his house? not exactly a mansion . and even lazy people who don't work have those too you know. it's not only "hard working" people getting stolen from. and stealing them is work, it's not like he's "sitting back" and having more kids. everything you said except GOOD JOB is false.
this guy was working hard and recyling. he even registered a business. you dont do shit all day you dont own a business youre just a loser minimum wage jabroni
In prison, or out of prison, these scumbags end up costing honest taxpayers.
Cheap solution. Put the junkies in a hole.
Politicians?
@@jessiehughes9432 yeah them too
@@jessiehughes9432 give that man a cigar and buy him a drink
Give him the chair.
Make sure they extensively check the background of him. Some people actually work for chop shops that do this.
what? seriously mate? these aren't being stolen for resale man, the are scrapped for recyclable metals.
@@Quagigitymire I was about to say the same thing
Goldens comment still holds weight
@@Quagigitymire
‘…tied to other thefts.’
“Cox, the leader of a…’catalytic converter theft ring.’ “
You watch too many 80's movies.
Naw the real robbery here is the muffler man chargin 1500 bucks a piece to fix it. Lmfao. Wow.
just be glad you're not in California where only OEM parts are allowed. it would have been $3,000 per vehicle instead of $1500. Anyways if the government can't protect my converter, then I won't have one. strait pipe it is.
Lol👍
Hell yeah!
Yeah no doubt, my cousin here in new York had one stolen ,so we figured go on Amazon and order a new one.
NY is a clean air state , required a 50 state cat.
640$.
They listed the 48 state cat for 350$,but it can't get shipped here.
Thank God for a buddy in Connecticut he had it sent to ,and then he went and picked it up.
Saved a fortune.
@@MrTheHillfolk That's thinking.
You're an idiot for living in Commifornia for one and two not installing an aftermarket converter.
Why did it take this long because they didn’t give a dam till this happened to them .
Here's an idea. Instead of a law "closing the loophole" how about trying this unique idea... "When someone commits a crime, and is convicted, you put them in jail. THEN (and here's the crazy part) you KEEP them in jail until they serve their sentence." You would be surprised at how few catalytic converters are stolen by people sitting in jail.
You know that sounds so crazy that it might actually work!!!
Liberals dont like keeping people in jail. Most people are caught, processed and released.
@Robert Cross Liberals wouldn't allow that
Nah the loophole seems pretty important to change. A new criminal will be made. Keeping people in jail doesn't help
You think that will solve the catalytic converter theft problem? Hahaha ok...
Just keep letting people get away with it like every state has been doing for years and years. It’s sickening. Start giving these scumbags 50 years in prison for first offense and crime may slow down or just keep giving probation and it’ll keep getting worse. I’m so sick of the complaining from everyone!! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!
Even if you catch the thief in the act before he/she get away with your CC, if they’ve already begun the sawing process, you’re still looking at a substantial repair bill to include if the mechanic can actually still use your equipment. The problem is that there are any number of auto parts dealers willing to look the other way to make a quick buck. Someone rolling up to a salvage yard with a truck full of CC should be immediately reported to law enforcement. If they were legitimately obtain, complete the transaction and move on. Thieves won’t steal these things if there’s not a market to fence them through.
@@aeromedical6776 it’s the point though, people would think twice if there was a tough sentence for doing it to begin with. Criminals do it because they aren’t afraid of the $500 bond when they’re making $20,000 a week stealing them.
The new law totally makes sense. But please stop calling "something that you wish was illegal but isn't" a "loophole".
True, a loophole implies that it's a way to legally do something otherwise illegal. If the acts had been legal, the police wouldn't even have had a reason to arrest that suspect. The new law fixes the problem that it was too easy to get away with the crime of stealing car parts. Or if you want, with the crime of dealing in stolen car parts (which had also been illegal before).
@@Pystro the theft was illagle. so was selling the stolern goods. the only loophole was how he offloaded the goods.
@@Pystro The "loophole" as I understand it is you create a fake business to sell as many converters as you want, where otherwise you have to sell them 1 at a time.
Theft just cut mine yesterday
@@JWonn ?? that’s just using your brain slightly more than the bare minimum
Are you sure he’s only 41?! He looks 61! I despise thieves!
Me too.... I despise our government
Tweakers always look 20 years older than they are .
@@rickobrien4025 He probably had ADHD as a kid and was prescribed amphetamines like the millions of kids are today. Yay, big pharma!
Yet you probably support social security.
They should confiscate and sell his property to reimburse everybody he stole from until the repairs are paid for. Cars, guns, and even his house if need be.
Absolutely!!
And how do you trace which person he stole it from and when?
You can't. They don't have vin numbers so no real way of telling where it came from.
@@Tyshkevich that’s the second part of this equation. Any time one is turned in, you should be required to supply the vin of the vehicle it was removed from.
No need to go any deeper than that.
As soon as one vehicle rings out with five replacements, you take that guy down.
I bet the guns are stolen !
30 something counts of felonies. He'll be in for life lmao
We had a problem with people stealing copper electrical wiring and copper water pipes. Our D.A. told the local scrap yards that if they took pictures of ID for scrappers and made a picture of the items being scrapped, they had no worry from him. If they failed to comply, they would be charged with receiving stolen property. They complied and thefts of wire and pipe are almost zero.
Yeah it’s not hard to enforce, the scrap yards typically know when they’re taking stolen goods but usually there’s no repercussions for them so they don’t care. They just have to be pushed to put forth the smallest amount of effort to verify the stuff they’re buying is legit, and 95% of it would stop.
The problem is they see a crack head trying to sell a cat, and they know it’s stolen, so in their mind it’s an opportunity to lowball and get a cat much cheaper than from a legitimate source. A guy who owns a muffler shop won’t take $50 for a cat he knows is worth $300, but a crack head with a stolen cat will take that $50 and run because he just wants to be rid of it.
I lived in a neighborhood where a family put their home up for sale. They vacated it as he had accepted a job in another state and moved his family accordingly with him. He was handling the sale through a realtor. Well, some POS must have been scouting out the place and knew it was empty unless it was being shown. Somehow in the middle of the night (without alerting anyone) they removed all the copper piping from the A/C system and pretty much destroyed it. How you could do this without waking up the neighbors is beyond me, but they did it. The guy ended up having to file a claim and get the unit replaced which I’m sure ran into the $8-$10K price range.
THIS is how you get laws made, have the problem happen to the law makers THEN when they are affected THEN they will make a law to fix it
Like McCain with TV commercials being to loud?
Agree 100% if it doesn't affect them they won't care
It's already illegal. More laws won't fix anything.
its like governer abot dumping all those illagles on dcs doorstep. you make it there problem.
I flipping hate thieves!
How can you have thieves when you live in a stolen country? 🤦♂️
@@deanmartin6052 Wow you spoke to a women I'm proud of you
i hate hot dogs, but that doesn't make me declare it as if it's wisdom.....everyone hates thieves.....unless you're the thief
2 Things I hate, are liars and thieves. My Great Grand Mother always said "If you can lie, you can steal and if you can steal you can kill". I can understand why some societies chop off the hands of thieves.
Well people in poor ass countries steal to live. You really shouldn't have to do it in America so the arm chopping thing here would be reasonable for repeat offenders, imo.
If you agree with chopping someone's hand off for a minor crime then you'll agree with killing people for minor crimes, and if you'll agree with killing people for minor crimes then you'll agree with killing people for things that aren't even crimes.
Is that some sort of explicit permission?
Even an honest man should be able to kill somebody when their hands get forced.
If I shoot dead a home invader that doesn't mean I'd also steal from you.
Doesn’t mean it isn’t dumb to chop hands off.
The scrap buyers need to be held accountable. Really how many cats should someone sell 1 a day is crazy your lucky if you have 1 bad cat that needs replaced in your entire life.
“Father of five and a grand father”
Well isn’t he a sweet heart ❤️
I'm sure his girlfriend and his family are proud of him. "he's a provider"... etc
That was irrelevant to the story. They try to humanise a criminal.
Well I'm glad he was caught aslo. But since everything has almost doubled in price so should all of the bail increase to keep up with inflation. As for murderers and rapists the same should apply. This State is just to soft on those crimes.
They forgot to add OSU booster
I was waiting for them to tell us what sports he played at school too.
People that do this are Scum and will forever have Bad Karma! If it’s not yours Do Not Touch it! You don’t mess with working folks vehicles or anyone’s! Pathetic Trash!
A thief is the worst kind of person, you have to put their teeth to the curb and give a little kick.
@@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 I agree!
What’s he going to do for a job now? Go back to meth making I guess. Maybe he can pick up a new trade in prison.
@@auntemmyd1604 You know he's making reference to a scene from American History X right? The curb stomp scene.
@@jhowardsupporter Yes! I like that Movie Don’t try and start BS!
I have seen police departments sell catalytic converters at auction. They should be charged with receiving stolen property!
if that's even true i would imagine its from seized cars, fake news.
@@ernk2830 Police confiscated stolen property all the time and then sell it for profit. Cops profit from stolen catalytic converters. Let that sink in your head.
@@0.0.0.0.1 contraband which is no longer needed is destroyed unclaimed general property is sold through public actions. That's the context your leaving out but ok.
@@ernk2830 I'm sure they sell the contraband also. Cops are corrupt in all ways! I'm guessing your a thin blue line lover. "Back the blue until it happens to you!"
@@0.0.0.0.1 its just common knowledge but i'm sure the news would love your story and hopefully you have the evidence to go with it. I back whats right its quite simple and less stressful. If you were buying stuff at an auction you knew was stolen then your just as corrupt using your logic, or the type to be like well i did not steal it but don't mind buying it lol, again just as corrupt. gotta love it calling people corrupt when you participate in the alleged corruption.
What an outstanding citizen. So when someone shows up to the scrap yard with like 30 converters no one finds that suspicious and calls the cops? especially with this fine looking guy dropping them off?!?!
One more example how the law favors businesses, not individual citizens.
Seriously? You think there aren't many individual citizens that must park outside and are vulnerable to this crime?
4:05 This is great advice... we all know how thieves hate to steal things that are painted or labeled. That will surely stop them. Thanks 10TV!!!
Yeah, thieves have a strict code of ethics they follow. 😂
It's scrap metal, so doubt painting or a label made a difference
It makes it easily identifiable. You could point it out on the pile and be like "yup, that's mine officer" makes it less attractive to thieves
@@cr0w342 when you can sell the junk online to another state or the 3 recent times I tried to sell scrap cars that I got tons of emails in Florida all over the state of people not wanting the vehicles just the cats like I said im not buying it
@@necessaryevile precious metals are not scrap metals
“A father of five and a grandfather” like who the F cares. He is nasty
Yeah. He stopped being a family man when he decided to steal
@@EnterpriseXI missing the point guy.
@@rickileah080 What I meant was he stopped caring about his family when he resorted to crime
He looks like a crack or meth head, 40 year old with the face of 70.
@@EnterpriseXI gain some perspective jesus
The Blues Brothers are the only reason I know what a catalytic converter is
Somebody stole my neighbor's catalytic converter while he was grocery shopping. His Toyota pickup is over 20 years old. He took it in to the exhaust shop to get it repaired. They said it was gonna cost dang near a $1000.00 to replace it. He couldn't afford that, he's 73 yo and on Social Security. He went to Harbor Freight and bought a cheap wire feed welder a welding mask and a 2 ft section of exhaust pipe at the auto parts store. He fixed it himself for about $300.
Anybody who messes with a 73 year old is pure evil
Dang, if everyone knew this they be saving bank by just adding a basic pipe to car or truck if possible .
@@cable30 Well its illegal in most states (actually all of them I think), but the question is unless the pigs are looking to book you on something, they probably won't know unless you have to pass inspections.
@@jakegarrett8109 You whine about people that break the law, but then you call law enforcement officers pigs... You're a special kind of stupid.
@Sam Zurick Poor guy,man don't put the guy's last name out there. There's probably not many people named Mike Hunt around.
"He got higher bond than most murderers"
Thats right, They want to make sure no family or friends could afford to bail him out.
He looks like He won't even show up at his own trial if he's out on bail.
Good cuz he's taking money out of people's pockets they can't get the work
If he's a flight risk, he shouldn't have had a bond at all. He's clearly guilty of some crimes here so he should get comfortable in prison. Hey, look at it from a positive side. Do the softer jail time for a few months and save that from the rougher prison sentence.
His family is scrapping converters trying to raise the money
3 of the dumbest comments ive ever heard theft is a low level offense and he has a bond higher than a murder suspect..that just shows how fucked up the judicial system is and how it punishes crimes according to popular opinion instead real merit..and yall defending that shit are part of the problem not the solution..granted he committed several crimes but if a woman beater or child molester can post bail than why is a thief being so unfairly treated.
Stupid people make right turns on red in states where its not legal because there are no lights to tell them not to...
Let’s also hear more about this credit card making machine found. I’m surprised he even went the legal way to file and get a legit business permit as a front. This tool has an identity theft gig going as well… talk about diversifying your portfolio. 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 GOOD ONE and VERY smart comment!
He should've added "spa services", 'cause he looks an ABSOLUTE MESS! 🤣🤣🤣
Also felon in possession of a firearm. I'm just guessing, but I'd bet money he's already a felon. Anyways, possession of a firearm in the commission of a crime.
White Crime, White Collar Crime
I’m a recent victim of this. I’m a father of three kids and I owned a minivan with car seats in it. Clearly owned by a family but these thieves don’t give a shit. I was more disappointed in society than I was actually mad. How can some people stoop so low and ruin the life of others… now my kids and i have to take public transportation. The only upside is that it happened right after the winter ended.
You shouldn't be suprised amigo, considering 30 million of your compadres are illegally in the country, along with their anchor babies. Karma for your being a border hopper. Don't bother coming up with a sob story about how you are legal.
probably because their lives are rough too and we dont exactly live in a society where people are looking out for each other, so theyre looking out for themselves by stealing and making a little money... they dont "not care" about families because theyre cruel people, sure some are, but most of them see it as a way to make money because theyre struggling outside of it
@@maxtm3000 they got to that point 90% of the time by being idiots. Meanwhile thee victims are the honest family people. Don’t try to justify it or paint the thieves in an honest light, they are scum
The person who stole it needs to eat too. Have some compassion
@@maxtm3000 they’re mostly drug addicts and career criminals like the guy in this video. Most of them are big operations like he was and I guarantee you a guy who steals 1100 cats doesn’t care about the people he screws.
This need to be classified as a special crime with special punishment, along with copper theft. Lock these scumbags up for a long long time.
Our highest level of police in America only made 2 arrests for Epstein island when thousands of child rapists were indulging there. Why would anyone really care about some catalytic converters? Our country is a fucking disaster.
Strap them over a barrel and beat their ass like in Singapore.
What does the high temp paint do? Like let's say I spray my exhaust with that. How will that deter that thief from stealing my shit?
lol start wit your politicians
You guys said the thief was the first person to figure out the loophole, but then blamed that loophole for the fact that Ohio is 8th in the nation for most catalytic converters stolen. Did this thief figure it out first, but a long time ago?
No, he’s just the first one to get caught doing it.
@@Lacroix999 Then how do they know he was the first to find the loophole?
Bad news reporters are bad. Nevermind the 5400 other ohio business who use this "loophole" every day, LEGALLY.
@@Lacroix999 Not even close.
@Jacko Sargs Maybe true except the video you're commenting on explicitly blamed the loophole for the fact that Ohio is 8th in stolen converters, which is why I'm asking the question
The places accepting need to be held accountable just as much as the thieves simply because they one how they're getting them, by stealing them, yet they're still buying stolen goods. I'll never understand why the very people who fuel these types of crimes and worst aren't held accountable just as much as the people at the bottom.
how would we know that the cats are stolen? yes you can assume that they are but at the same time that dude could own an actual legit wrecker yard. you meet a lot of characters in the scrap metal industry, to just assume everyone is stealing everything is a good way to put yourself out of business.
@@scrapmanindustries everyone pay attention to this business name. Post it an let people know they support thievery. They are total douche and trash. They buy them to support their own drug habits
@@scrapmanindustries You are absolutely right, brother. But how many people who bring in multiple cats consistently have a business in their name or even just work for one? Not many. They even said he figured out a loophole, not that others have as well. And besides, there's so much theft going on it made the news. While his case is something, it's not the norm. You have a duty to be legit. Rather you're a child of God or just a decent businessman. You have a duty.
@@steevehoyoufat9155 that's exactly what I'm saying. you would actually be very surprised to see the amount of stuff people bring in consistently. if some dude claims to have a wrecker yard he's going to be coming in with loads of cats consistently. especially if he's going straight to the cat buyers since that's all they deal with and have tons of repeat customers. I've seen all sorts of people come into the scales. some people that look like they would be homeless driving around in 1990's beat up work vans, really got millions of dollars and run huge ass factories. if someone brings in papers and shows us they got a business or even better yet a scrap dealer license which in Ohio isn't that hard to get by the way, it doesn't matter what I think of that person or how they are acquiring their stuff. they would technically be legit. do I need to go send out a crew to inspect every property someone claims to own or operate before I buy from them? there is absolutely no way possible to stop scrap metal theft completely. if you hold yards liable for the actions of their customers you will not have any yards at all. although I do see your point where if a yard knowingly buys stolen goods it is their fault. but unless the dude is in there bragging about it or we hear other customers talking about that dude how are we as buyers able to prove that the goods this guy is trying to sell are stolen? what should we do? stop sales all together? throw everything in the landfill and forget about metal recycling altogether? that will just create a black market for metal and cause all sorts of pollution. stopping this problem at its highest level is a lot more complicated then it seems. it really needs to be stopped at its lowest levels with a swift boot (or better yet a 45acp) to the face.
@@scrapmanindustries I concede, brother. You're 100% correct. Plus I've even went there a few times looking shady just because I'm going to a scrap yard. I didn't even think about it from that perspective, especially about the black market. Pardon my ignorance, brethren. I guess I showed my hand that I was too a victim of cat theft. And on my 2001 beater when that was my only car at the time at that. I didn't think about the position it would put you guys in. But now that I think about it, car designers and manufacturers know all to well about this situation and should come up with a better design to at least make it harder for thieves with all of the money they pay their designers on the first place. I'm sure that wouldn't be hard for them at all.
Get A Rattler Snake and Tie that Venemous Snake around that Catalytic Convertor Over Night, You Can Also Get a Viper Snake Aswell...
He looks exactly like a guy that would steal rusty car parts😂
His house also looks like a guy that lives there steals car parts.
Yeah I bet he’s a filthy tamp to
Couldn't believe it when they said he's only 41. Dude looks 60. Don't do drugs kids - but if you do, moderation...
No problem. My car doesn't have a catalytic converter. Mine was damaged, so I replaced it with a piece of exhaust pipe.
@@Anonymous-jv7ys it's nice driving a vehicle what doesn't need or have a converter ,i live in Iowa and they don't require inspections here or SMOG checks ,,huge numbers of vehicles would be JUNKED if inspections were required ,,all the salt used on our roads DESTROY vehicles ,,,i'm currently rebuilding a 2010 chevy 3500 which had a hole rusted in it's frame due to salt ,,there are hundreds of thousands of vehicles in iowa and nebraska that should be parked and junked because of rust ,with no inspections it never happens
If you catch them in the act, remember that turning the handle counter-clockwise to lowers the jack.
Just put the cat to do the inspection every year and in the rest of the time use a straight pipe...
It seem like law enforcement and govt is fine with people being victims. We've been hit several times. Stopping the thefts would require stakeouts and surveillance. Something that cops rarely do anymore.
all their budget goes down with their law suits
bro you think any PD has the manpower and budget to sit on some old church van and make sure the catalytic convertor doesnt get stolen?
@@rwalker0130
Truth. I worked police for two years. Catalytic theft was infuriatingly common in my area. Problem is, half the time I was the only officer on shift in my entire area.
Can't be everywhere at once.
Yeah. They're just out to collect revenue from the people anymore. To protect and serve is a thing of the past
When you go easy on homeless tweakers, you get more vehicle crimes -- they steal catalytic converters, to trade for meth or heroin. They're addicted, so no law is going to stop them. The cats get melted down, which destroys the evidence.
You have to put criminals in prison. That's the only way to reduce crime. It works every time. And when the prisons fill up, you build more.
This dude is only 41??? Daaaamn he looks 55. Lock these losers up and throw away the key! They are stealing from those of us working the hardest! I hate thieves!
lock them in the sewers let them survive off shit until they die
Im 55 and I dont have his wrinkles or bags...if his hair had more white he would look 70
My first guess was meth head.
Damn dude. Get a job please.
He has a job now, stamping license plates!
BREAKING NEWS @Cindy Johnson has solved the jobless crisis. people don't want you to know this trick he discover. All you have to do to solve the jobless crisis is to simply "GET A JOB" WOW who would've thought. What a genius, he will surely go tplaces
@@chuckyyes it was meant to be Sarcastic But there’s jobs out there. My roommate went from flipping hamburgers with a recorded to ups.
@@cindyjohnson5573 idk your comment looked pretty serious to me
@@chuckyyes stealing is not right. It’s costing a lot of money for these victims. I been stolen from and it doesn’t feel real good. Sounds like you don’t give a fck.
He put many people in difficult situations and perhaps, many families.
Not really that difficult. It's less than $100 to repair yourself.
Just revoke the business license ?
Claims are driving insurance up. You will pay when someone steals in your neighborhood.
Cops just think u can claim your stuff on your homeowners ins. Same with car insurance. My ex bf gets about 2 DUI/year. Baldwin co, Al. If u r from there, u don’t have to follow the laws. He’s 65 and when he does run over some kids at 9 am drunk as a skunk I hope it’s the judges and DA’s kids. They pad the attorneys pockets but don’t give a damn if he’s clean and sober. Take his truck! Put a breathalyzer on his big ol boat! I’m sick I pay so much in car ins with no infractions and drive just a few miles every week.
Here in Texas, these thieves have been shot while doing this... I remember an article awhile back where the owner of the vehicle just got in the vehicle and drove over the thief before he could get out from under the car... I don't have a problem with either of these two solutions...
they should be dealt with lead. people need their car to work to make money to live. an attack on someone's car is an attack on their life.
Cheaper to kill criminals than house them
Ah man, I GOTTA MOVE OUT OF NEW YORK !
My family had an oil company in Texas and this happened in the late 80's. They kept getting equipment stolen form their property. Eventually my family was told by a law enfacement official that if they caught the thieves to just shoot them. make sure the thieves are on their property, and to call this guy directly and he would take care of it.
I get that this sounds cool and all, but personally I value a human life (even a shitty human) more than my catalytic converter.
Our only solution is to straight pipe every car on the road and stamp out this horrible crime
Every city’s air quality would become LA if that happened
Do you not like breathing air?
Make it a federal crime to steal one of these since the federal government mandates them be on every IC engine powered vehicle. Do not pass go, do not collect $100.
As the economy collapses you going to see a lot more of it
Change the damn law Ohio 😡.
Smith and Wesson will solve this problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not if their look guy shoots you first or you go to jail because you killed someone. It’s not a good situation ..I say that because a few people in my area have caught these people and they got shot or shot at …
You need to get a motion detector alarm so you know when to use S&W
This happened to my grand am about 10 years ago or so. The car was never the same after. Constantly had to put money into it after that because of sensors coming on. I wish I’d have caught the sob under my car I’d have run him over.
YOU WANT YOUR CONVERTOR? HERE IT IS XD
Always the keyboard commando that’s think they would do something. You’re harmless my guy 😂😂😂
@@Stranger_In_The_Alps to be completely honest, you would be pissed too if someone was stealing shit form you
That converter istself was prolly worth more than the car itself
@@ASSOOOJACK well at the time I got it fixed I put a better converter on it and I knew the mechanic so he put it in for me cheap. It cost me 220 for the converter and I threw him a case of beer and put a 100 inside the case. But man I loved that car. It was my first car my parents bought it for me when I graduated HS. Car was worth about 3k at the time. But damn it sucked
Well we know what he looks like now.. he may want to stay in jail!!
With the $4 million Bond he's not going anywhere
you'll forget what he looks like in the next 2 weeks
“HE GOT A BOND HIGHER THAN MOST MURDERERS” nobody sees an issue with that?
Not with his bond for 32 felonies. IMO, murderers should not receive bond, they should sit.
@@charliebelle6693 ….in a hole while buried alive! Toots!
Well Mike, the op here, yes I think there are plenty of people that have a problem with that. The least of which probably is _NOT_ Tommy Cox himself, the "mastermind" responsible for this particular crime ring.
Yah, the issue is the murderers don't get the death penalty asap
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What can you do?
Set your car up as bait.
When the thieves show up you start picking them off, like squirrels at a bird feeder.
Easy now Chris Kyle...
That may work if the thief is on your property but you are going to have a hard time justifying it if your car is on the sidewalk or public area.
😂 hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
@@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481 fuck you joe biden is was installed prick!!!!
@@deanmartin6052 Spray paint, just like the news says spray paint stops thieves (that's a joke, I have no idea how that's suppose to do anything and its laughable the news is actually suggesting something THAT stupid, I mean it is the news, but that's pretty dumb even for them)
Regulation is absolutely necessary in a capitalistic society profits is the most important Then regulation is a necessity
But Remember Republicans are AGAINST regulations. No govt interference in private industry 🤷
Probably stole the sazall first.
Cat thieves will most likely have only one form of cutting tool with them. A pipe cutter, or sawzall. Weld a heavy gauge steel rod along side the cat and sufficient length of the exhaust and that will greatly increase the time it takes to chop out a cat depending on quality/size of materials. Personally, I prefer the "failed jack stand" method.
Pneumatic suspension with the relief lines (sealed under normal circumstances) running along the exhaust.... A poorly planned/hasty cut, and the vehicle descends...
I doubt the worth of such a thing, legal defense would be quite expensive if things went down as planned.
It might be safer to rig capsules of skunk stink on the exhaust plumbing where they'd probably get nicked when someone makes the attempt... Bank die packs might be even more effective
@@mikekane1980 Bank die packs, now there's an idea.
I think they use portable, battery powered Sawzalls, and it only takes a minute to slice through, like butter.
I don't know how to prevent it, but you could probably use the section of exhaust that has the catalytic converter as a conductor for an alarm sensor. After the first cut, the alarm would scare them off, especially if the siren is pointing right at the cat.
I suprized someone would chop out a cat
@@mikekane1980 lol you’re what would happen if the home alone kid tried to design cat theft deterrent
The damn scrap yards are just as guilty as the people that still them.
Scrapyard owners are just as much criminal scum bags as the thieves. They know they’re purchasing stolen goods and they should be held accountable.
The people at the scrap yards couldn't care less where the converters come from. If you are going to stop this problem that's where you have to begin.
The same could be said for pawn shops...I'd be willing to bet the majority of the items on the shelves have been stolen...especially power tools.
people running scrap yards are the same people selling used cars
Sue the state for failing to protect the business and public. Sue for damages and taxes taken from the business. Take it to the Supreme Court for lawmaker incompetence
You do realize how much that costs right? Just pay 1500 and take preventive measures.
@@Cle_M3 Cool, ill just take it out of my taxes since the government doesn't seem to wanna do anything. Isnt this why im paying them ? (Its because they'll assault and kidnap you if you dont)
@@ziggenplays1208 chill man, we don’t want you “disappearing”
@@Cle_M3 the fact the government is known to "disappear" people is proof that dad or grandpa probably should have stood up
Police don't even have a duty to protect you, let alone your property. Legally they are allowed to do nothing and watch you get raped or murdered (depends on the cops fetish of course), but they have no legal obligation to help you. Also they will just tax you twice as much, because each dollar needs to line the politicians pockets as well as all the new people they need for the inefficient reimbursement system. The government doesn't care, its your money...
I bet he pleads guilty to lesser charges, gets sentenced to three years, and does less than two.
He'll catch FEDERAL charges having firearms in commission of a felony...
hes out already
@@ffjsb federal charges don't just immediately kick in they still have to trigger federal jurisdiction.
at that much bond? think again. no one gets off 40 felonies with less than two....you're just ranting now about how you didn't get away with cheating on your math homework
I bet you're rite. Thefez no deterrent these days.
Time to straight pipe 🤣🤣
yep...take your CC off.save it for 1 year until inspection.
Straight pipe it for 364 days.
The catalytic converter on that van isn’t protected at all…being open on each end all the thief has to do is cut a little more and slide it right out
The "theft prevention" tips are hilarious. Especially the spray paint.
Yeah, ...didn't you know that High Temperature Exhaust Spray Paint is Sawzall-proof?!
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yeah, what is the spray paint gonna do?
I had a boss that painted all his tools pink……it actually worked
@@trentdawg2832 my dad wrapped all of his tool handles with a piece of really old and sticky flame duct tape and that stopped his co workers from stealing his tools
@@CN35157 Burn off pretty quick. Catalytic converters get quite a bit hotter than your bbq haha
One converter, per person, per day, per scrapyard? That sounds like a lot of converters all by itself. Considering I've never once had the need to scrap one of these. And assuming that curbing the thefts is the goal here. One "per year" sounds much more reasonable.
Great point. I'll bet the bill they mentioned in this video fails to pass too.
I thought the SAME thing, unless they have others working for them; but that wouldn't work either because their cohort can just take off with the money/goods.
How do you log that? Now you need a huge automated registry system, and also now you've prevented most recycling, so good job adding to the trash... Unintended consequences are real.
@@jakegarrett8109 You already have to show ID for any other kind of scrap, so that registry is already in place.
White Crime, White Collar Crime
Damn he 41 ?!
I've heard of this problem for many years, what's really sad thing is that the loophole still exists, in many states.
You're allowed to sell one every DAY even without the loophole.
What's sadder is that vehicle makers have not re-designed the exhaust systems to protect the cats from being simply cut out, US based manufacturers should have taken note by now.
@Eye of Saturn The recent peak price? 05-09 prius'es brought from 1,600 to 2,500 a set and you could prob cut them in 10 mins
Yeah how many decades the loophole been like this? What a joke
@Eye of Saturn but the people stealing usually don't have a job and you gotta make pretty good per hour to take in 1,600 plus a week and don't forget all of the ones they steal are money that day with no taxes etc
So he didn't find a loophole that allowed him to steal anything but he found a loophole that allowed him to sell them. Crappy title to this video.
That loophole allowed him to start a criminal enterprise. Your one of those argumentative people that don't think before they speak aren't you?
@@cgfh8673 Except their solution (to a man who hires a gang of criminals, each could sell 365/year "legally" even under this new law), is to just make it so legitimate businesses need a mile long paper trail for old scrap? The guy is making his own counterfeit credit cards, you think he can't print out false sales records either?
How stupid are these politicians? Oh wait, probably the same ones that write gun control... Doesn't affect criminals, only the law abiding.
@@cgfh8673 if he had such a "criminal enterprise" I can assure you that 1cat a day 365 days a year wouldn't affect his so called enterprise in the slightest.
first off - being the supposed enterprise it is, wouldn't be interested in losing the most profitable part of the process... they'd be smelting and then flipping the metals themselves.
secondly - enterprises consist of hundreds of more likely thousands of individuals. so let's say he had near minimum of 1000 people.. that'd be 1000 a day or 365,000 a year! don't forget, as your enterprise grows, so do the number of individuals!
"you sure seem to be the type that doesn't seem to think before they speak".... ah, the irony!
oh wait no you said "one of those people who love to argue so much but, *continued above*"
@@scottrichard2954 Looks like your trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I wasn't trying to argue with you but you seem to be putting up a fight over the words "criminal enterprise". He created a business, had multiple members working under him, bought tracking devices, etc. It was organized and I could've just called it organized crime but however small or large the operation was its still an enterprise of the criminal kind. Enterprise definition: a project or undertaking, typically one that is difficult or requires effort. Yeah you fucked up son don't talk shit if you can't back it up
@@cgfh8673 sneed
Who ever said don't judge a book by it's cover needs to be put in jail
9 times out of 10
Just take a look at this guy he looks it
ok so im such a child for laughing at the reporters so formally saying his last name
pretty common last name
lmao
Ok and nobody cares
@@Waseemmmm And nobody cares that nobody cares.
@@Waseemmmm We don't see your dum ass being Verified, therefore We ..don't care.
Time to stamp vehicle identification numbers on every converter. If you cannot prove ownership then make it a felony to sell.
To take care of the problem put another piece of metal I. It's place
Set up your car on airbags and tie the deflation of airbags to a circuit thru exhaust, cut the pipe and the circuit is cut and bags deflate and crush the thief.
🤣🤣🤣 Good idea!
Not sure what part of Ohio it was, but I was listening to the radio, and they found a guy crushed to death under a Toyota Corolla, awhile back. I always thought they worked in teams.
@@waltergabriel3694 Several of these methheads have killed themselves like that because they're not very good at using jacks...
Air ride equipped, pancake thieves half off!
Why would they let everyone know about this loop hole SMH
The news are part of it
Right 🤦🏾♂️
Because it's the "news" and they care not about you, only ratings.
IDIOTS!
because they think they're doing something heroric by mentioning they caught the guy stealing but don't realize what they're actually doing
A flagrant loophole favoring business owners?? Imagine our shock....
You can make it illegal to scrap catalytic converters
not happening just like cigarettes and alcohol
@@draco2xx I was thinking that if they made it illegal than we wouldn’t have to deal with it anymore
Good, fill the landfill and make recycling precious rare metals illegal... Also go burn the planet while you're at it. This comment section severely lowers my faith in human intellegence.
@@jakegarrett8109 you can simply say that they need to scrap the entire vehicle and include only 1 cat converter per vehicle buddy
@@godshammgod6852 Except that's pretty stupid when its just a dented cat... You do know that these are a high damage item right? Like first they don't have infinite life (many states due to emissions requirements fail these about every 50k miles, because the converter itself wears out), then also if you hit a bump off-road, or a board flies up and whacks the underside of your vehicle you're in the same boat. Replace the whole car each time? Are you crazy?
I was honest (I was often treated like a thief) Cu scrapper for 5 years. I never found 1 catalytic converter, so unless someone is in a industry handling cc's, there's no way scrap yard doesn't know a big bunch is stolen.
True.
the yards dont care. they just melt it down.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS Scrap yards don't "melt down" cats, or anything else. They resell them to other recyclers that in turn process them. Catalytic converters are cut open and the precious metals are removed and processed for reuse. The rest of it is then recycled.
the yards near me melt down precious metals into bars once they are seperated
"he got a higher bond than most murderers" geez bro.dont say that part out loud or.people will figure out that people only care about white collar and economic crime
Good imfo,nice work!!