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Robert Thurman believes organized religions inevitably become tools of cultural power rather than paths to personal salvation.
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Robert Thurman:
Robert Thurman is Professor of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies in the Department of Religion at Columbia University, President of Tibet House US, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation and promotion of Tibetan civilization, and President of the American Institute of Buddhist Studies. The New York Times recently hailed him as "the leading American expert on Tibetan Buddhism."
The first American to have been ordained a Tibetan Buddhist monk and a personal friend of the Dalai Lama for over 40 years, Professor Thurman is a passionate advocate and spokesperson for the truth regarding the current Tibet-China situation and the human rights violations suffered by the Tibetan people under Chinese rule. His commitment to finding a peaceful, win-win solution for Tibet and China inspired him to write his latest book, Why the Dalai Lama Matters: His Act of Truth as the Solution for China, Tibet and the World, published in June of 2008.
Professor Thurman also translates important Tibetan and Sanskrit philosophical writings and lectures and writes on Buddhism, particularly Tibetan Buddhism; on Asian history, particularly the history of the monastic institution in the Asian civilization; and on critical philosophy, with a focus on the dialogue between the material and inner sciences of the world's religious traditions.
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Question: What is the difference between spirituality and religion?
Robert Thurman: Spirituality is love and compassion, as far as I’m concerned; meaning that you are not just being rationally stuck within what you think your body is wired to. You’re going into a deeper area of your mind where you are asserting your free will. You’re choosing to be friendly and compassionate with people whether or not they irritate you, or whether or not they’ve done something to you. You‘re nevertheless choosing some sort of extraordinary-it shouldn’t be extraordinary really-response or outreach to people. Spirituality really is touching; you let go of your self-protective and defensive controls, and what you tap into is the nature of the universe, the flow of energy interconnecting things. Then, you naturally feel like interconnecting. Spirituality is where you let go, therefore, of your narrow control of identifying yourself just as your body: “I’m holding on to my chair;” this kind of thing.
That is, of course, the heart of religion too, but unfortunately religion has this other component where it goes into something instead of what the sociologist might call “pattern transcending activity” or “mental activity.” It becomes a tool of the state and society, and their conventional culture, to control people. To say, “you have to do this,” and “you need that ritual, obey this rule.” It stifles people and spirituality, and in the name of it people will kill each other, and they’ll hate people who don’t have the same belief instead of being loving and friendly. They will misinterpret or they will allow the priesthoods to misinterpret the teachings of the great founders-who are truly spiritual, and who said, you know, “Don’t behave like that”-and they start behaving like the Roman Catholic Church.
The Catholic part is great: universal. The Church of Jesus is great. But the Roman part is the Roman Empire from Constantine, and it’s a dominating thing, and it’s conflicting even for the priesthood, and of course many of the priests were still saintly and wonderful, when they are more great mystics. They were better before the Protestants made then try to be more social, but to compete with them they too much adopted the stance of the Roman Empire is the problem. Religions do that. Buddhism too. It becomes a control mechanism rather than a liberating mechanism.
My response when pushed is
Religion: God is a being.
Spirituality: God is being.
God is a being who changed my life. Since 30 years ago, and I wouldn't exchange Him for anything
@@sandrapihlskott3262 too bad it doesn't exist
@@indian_otaku2388 He exists
@@sandrapihlskott3262 Probably only in your deluded mind
@@sandrapihlskott3262 it doesn't
Religion is a parent to the people, they need it for comfort and direction. Spirituality is being present in the moment here and now.
Agreed!
the reason people start believing that there is no higher power / force is because in all honesty religion shuts down their opinions, questions and turns them closed minded people that should only take what is given and can't think of the possibility of a different outcome or route of doing something.
Ikr! Religion is so restrictive and contradictory, where as spirituality is liberating in pretty much every way.
Exactly
You are right on most part except that you're not doing justice. When you say religion, are you implying on all of the religions that exists as we speak today or just a specific religion?
Words have power my friend and I believe you should've chosen them carefully.
100%
My religious friends head for a church on Sunday and myself being spiritual, I head for the woods.
I always go to the woods. From the most part.
Right where we came from 💯💯 nature is everything to us it’s what keeps us alive everyday and also leads us to happiness
Is it still okay to read the Bible if you’re spiritual?
@@enolaxd4796 My opinion is yes. The teaching of Jesus has helped many people obtain truth. I've read teachings from Jesus, Eckhart Tolle, Buddha and countless more. They all have something to contribute as I believe they are all spiritual masters and have learned from each one of them.
@@stargazer5797 so spiritual people read the Bible too? I’m spiritual but I’m still learning
"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool."
Mark Twain
Fact.
Can be used to spirituality bs too
@@indian_otaku2388 spirituality is science based and natural. what are u smokin bro
@@ray_x6959 Imao the confidence of this brainwashed kid boldly stating total bs. Spirituality ain't even closely related to science lmao. Spirits doesn't exist if you didn't know about it. Body is just made of elements in earth that's all. Dna is just made up of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and phosphorus that's all. Do you even know how brain works?? Consciousness is just firing of neurons in a specific way that's fuckin all. There's literally no spirituality bs behind that. Spirituality is just a pseudo science made up by some amount of psychology and tons of random bs. Just because you fell for that stupidity doesn't mean its science based and natural lol.
@@ray_x6959 Pseudoscience doesn't really count as science.
Spirituality is defined by Kenneth Pargament as "the search for the sacred". Spirituality is the human need of finding a connection with what we have, consciously or unconsciously, defined as what is most sacred to us. The sacred is different from person to person but this need to search for such meaningful attachment is definitely present in all humans.
Taoism is spirituality choose your own path in life not what others want you to do.
I didn’t know Taoism was spirituality interesting
choosing your OWN path can be dangerous. Want to add that I am not here to argue with you, im spiritual myself only the one who guides my path is the Spirit of GOD. We are not the creators but the creation :). again, I am not part of an organized church/religion, I have a Spiritual relationship with God. Growing more into the way we were created and departing from this artificial matrix we are living in, is exactly where God comes and reveals all truth. The things that are not from God are evil because its just not designed by God. its like me going to McDonalds and eating fast food and getting dangerously obesed, its just not how we are designed..God created all the real food we need. when we look at a man that has a deep love for material possessions or lusts over a women, that comes from the heart. just like over indulging on food, there's detriments when we prioritize material possessions and women, the Spirit within remains dead inside. it doesn't go by our true design. thats why we feel inside that somethings not right.
Going our own path put us as the creator but again, we are not the creators but the creation. and Gods creation is GOOD the way he made us is Good. Thats the spiritual growth we get when we have a spiritual relationship with God. Its a life long journey. :)
Buddhism and core of Hinduism (Advaita vedanta) do the same .
Just imagine how peaceful the world would be without the 100+ religion/believe systems but everyone focussing on the world/peace within understanding being a multiple being, living a human/physical experience.. we're trapped in 3D existence out of the 10 dimensions..11 if you'd add time.... we only understand higher dimensions in theory 🤐... Enough said.
@g singh So you believe in God read the Bible Genesis 2:9 says
The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground-trees(A) that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life(B) and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.(C)
You think u make it to heaven by being good the tree of knowledge good and evil killed Adam and Eve salvation like it says the tree is pleasing to the eye so is knowing worldly things but you won't make it to the after life aka heaven and the third eye and spiritual Awakening is evil and when it says he made all types of trees to grow he's talking about humanity different types of humans the saved one the "woke ones" aka tree of knowledge good and evil your being decieved repent
Not true and not possible
@@Joelucas210 That's a load of nonsense even many Christians don't believe in the creation myth of the Bible. Adam and Eve never existed and science proves it.
In 3mins this video has summed up my sentiment about religion. This gentleman has a great mind he’s really wise 👏🏽
Jesus wasn't bound to the definition of religion. The more open minded you read the bible the more you realise christianity should be understood spiritually instead of religiously (if you want to follow Jesus)
Thank u ! Amen
That's right.. the bible isn't being used correct it's a mystic spiritual book
I know right people tend to complicate things
Of which he said at 1:23-1:26 religion is part of spirituality through prayer, the Holy Spirit and the belief in the existence of God and Jesus Christ, but not everything in religion is spiritual because it involves other people's experiences and beliefs/practices that has been passed on over the years, which may or may not be biased. Therefore, not every aspect of religion can be understood spiritually because even in Christianity, we have sub-divisions.
@Edi, you're correct but you can't ignore the fact that Christianity is still a religion and should be understood religiously as well as spiritually.
Amen.
I relate so much. Often ppl use the bible to defend their ways and see someone who is more spiritual and free thinker as someone who doesn't obey. As long as they "obey" they can be forgiven by the most high so you should too. As a free thinker I believe God gives you free will and a conscience, as well as empathy along with sympathy. I just feel like the more ppl use bible verses to connect, there's even more who use it as a condescending tool. I understand the bible is the universal language of God but speaking from the heart is the universal language of love and that's where I operate from or else I think in some cases that it can seem contrived or phony. When I want to be preached to I'll of course go to church but not by people I love, I rather you level with me. If it helps, think of me as your homie who wants to help but has their own boundaries so you can't treat him just anyway you want.
Yep organized religion sets up humans as proxy gods, always looking for a reason to damn you. They love the idea of damnation. They are spiritual vampires. That's why so many people turn atheist.
@@MRSludgedude like me lol I will never got back to christianity
@@MRSludgedude I am a hindu atheist
@@giowhy4324 I am a hindu atheist
@@achyuththouta6957 so x Hindu? I know plenty of Hindu and syc . Good friends of mine. I myself believe in Jesus Christ but not church or how he's portrayed through the lens of organised religions. Im not a fan of the western church. I can't make ppl believe obviously but of course I would like others to believe how I do. Stay safe man from this virus...... peace. We all must come together.
I'd like to think religion is you knowing God. And Spirituality is God Knowing you
Due to each place around the world having different cultures and ways of doing things, different religons were created. Every religon worships the same God, but in their own way. All religons are correct. However religons have negative aspects as well. For ex: Specific religons say they are the only religon that is correct, and put down others for worshipping a different way.
Specific religons stay in their specific areas due to cultural differences. If it were true that YOUR religon is the TRUE religon, why is specifically only a certain culture who uses it? Surely God wouldn't only save a specific part of the earth, becaude this is the hotspot for your religon and damn everyone else, who never really even got a chance to learn about it. There are isolated people on the otherside of the world, I guarantee you never heard about your religon. This doesn't mean they will be "damned" for eternity.
Holy books were written by man. Over time many were translated and changed over time. I don't trust man, I trust God. I will not be led astray into thinking "Women must submit to men" bc a book says it. I won't be led astray by not accepting others because of sexualities. Worshipping God is about improving yourself and loving God and helping others, not about putting a group down because they are different from you. This world was divided as a test from God. Those who accept and love everyone for who and what they are despite differences, and do good, will be rewarded.
No one knows what the afterlife really is. I dont know if there is a heaven or hell. However I do know that my God loves me, and I am a good person. I don't believe just bc I don't conform with a certain religon that ill suffer for eternity.
All religions worship the same God? This is false you can look at the context and traits of each God in every religion and tell they aren't the same. Every religion believes their God is the true omnipotent God but these God's aren't all the same.
amen! ❤️
@@AfricanAmerican reread what I wrote. Different cultures worship differently and have different ideas of what God is. However we all worship a magick man or woman in the sky basically. Same big idea different minor details.
Can't agree with you more!!
religion should be a portal to spiritual conciousness. instead of condemning other faith to hell.
Amazing! This is what I try to verbalize to my friends when they ask me what I mean when I say I’m not religious anymore and that I’m spiritual now. It’s the understanding that I am one with the universe and this omnipresent energy. And that goes for everyone too. And if we are all of the universe, by being kind to others, we are being kind to ourselves.
Exactly religion controls people and I think energy has to do with everything and the devil is bad energy negituvr energy and god is just good positive energy and when u use your energy for bad things your basically saying devil come and take me but if u find peace and love that will truly connect u with the ways of the Devine and god and nature and peaceful energy that is meant for good
So you believe in God read the Bible Genesis 2:9 says
The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground-trees(A) that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life(B) and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.(C)
You think u make it to heaven by being good the tree of knowledge good and evil killed Adam and Eve salvation like it says the tree is pleasing to the eye so is knowing worldly things but you won't make it to the after life aka heaven and the third eye and spiritual Awakening is evil and when it says he made all types of trees to grow he's talking about humanity different types of humans the saved one the "woke ones" aka tree of knowledge good and evil your being decieved repent
@@Joelucas210 no one cares
@@giowhy4324 well apparently you do if you took time to respond
I am god sent don’t care
@@giowhy4324 but you respond and take time out of your day so....
I'm a religious person and I disagree with the control part. I naturally love going to church, praying, and reading my bible. I also aim towards loving everyone, regardless of their religion
Have you thought about missing years of Jesus that is not mentioned in bible? Have you read about the killing of innocent people and raping women in the bible? Do you know there are over 100 gospels circulating in the first century after Jesus died? Have you heard of Council of Nicaea where a small group of men decided what should be included in the bible? There are tons of wisdom in the bible, but there are a lot of dark sides too.
The difference between religion and spirituality are the precepts and self belief system we have in our lifestyles. We can be religious Christians or spiritual Christians. The way spiritual people think is eternal mindset and thinking which effects the spiritual world. Religious people effect natural life and the 5 senses of persona. Touch, taste, smell, hear, and see.
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I generally agree with the distinction you lay out here, but I think it’s a mistake to label religion’s conservative or institutional tendencies a bad thing. My opinion is that it is the institution that provides the discipline most of us need to become truly wise spiritually. I think it is also a mistake at the beginning to define spirituality as love. There is a lot of hateful spirituality as well (prayers to curse others, voodoo to make others suffer, black magic generally, etc). They are codependent forces that should be respected, not pitted against each other.
Voodoo/hoodoo is initially for connecting to ancestors. But yes, it can be used for bad things💯👎🏾
DamnDude I agree, I don’t know enough about voodoo to say much about it, but like all spiritual traditions it appears to involve a lot of blessings and curses. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as we recognize the facts honestly.
@@nathangale7702 facts
Speaking from my experience, some religious people (not all of them, of course) are just so controversial. My roommate, for example, always tells me that the Gospel and Bible are the only truth, that all other religions and the concept of spirituality itself are all from the devil, that the world is black and white only, and that the only "white side" of it is Jesus. I don't think bad of any religions for as long as people do not materialize them. Say, my rommie says that God is not in your heart but in church only. But... what if she is happend to be away from the church for a long time, does it mean there is no God by her side? I also often hear from her that animals are created by the GOD only for his children (us) to eat it. I don't wanna lie, she is generally a good and fun girl but I can 100% tell that all those believes and being obsessed on doing what Bible tells you to do just really suppresses her. She would not even allow herself to at least try to stop her thoughts for a moment and "clear her mind". Because... you guess it... only the GOD must be in her mind and by living in now, she believes, she walks towards the dark world away from you-know-whom. I do believe in god as well, I must say. But, really, what is the point of personalising him? If you were a buffalo (with an incredibly developed cerebral cortex😅), you'd believe god is a buffalo, wouldn't you? So, what I am trying to say is, please, just make sure that in this life you did your best, became your authentic self, helped as many people, or animals, or nobody (if that's what you really want) as you could. I think that harming life around you as little as you can, being always grateful, doing things that you like, developing your talents, sharing your experience with others and so on is what matters after all. Of course, there are plenty great spiritual teachers to listen to, but if you start worshipping them, materializing their teachings etc, forcing yourself into doing whatever they say, I am sorry to tell that but for me you are no smarter than a buffalo.
For me life and spirituality is really all about not having any expectations, being grateful and doing your best ❤️
Have a great day everyone, and thank you if you have read it till the end 🤭😅
your thoughts are mesmerizing
Thank you !!! Spent an hour with my Christian family on this
Yes! This was well said. Hate when people bunch spirituality with religion.
Religion and spirituality can be together, and many people find spirituality inside their religion, and for them, these differences may not be so relevant or true, since the two things are mixed.
I agree God the universal mind has no need of religion or churches/temples. However the god of the old testament Yaweh was a flesh and blood tyrant. The Sumerian culture built temples as houses for the sons of god who lived among them. Their priests were keepers of esoteric knowledge and liasons to the ordinary people. Checkout the Annunaki Creation Story...
Spirituality is accepting that we do not know everything, but understanding we're having this "earth" experience. We are supposed to help, love and pray for ourselves, as well as others. Personally I don't believe in Jesus, but I believe in God, the creator and first consciousness.
Religion is a mixture of spirituality and human lies
So religion isn’t the issue. The issue is people who are disobedient to the instructions of that particular religion.
What part of this video did you extract that message from? I think it's the obedient fundamentalist that are the problem. The ones caught up in the rituals and pattern transcending activities that he spoke of.
The spirit is the essence of the soul, the life force that influences the life of a person. It could be evil or divine or bad spirit or good spirit. The good spirit are love, kindness, mercy, compassion etcetera while the bad spirit are hate, jealousy, anger etcetera. Spirituality is a term to refer to the state of being spiritual as opposed to viewing the physical or material aspect of things or the actuality of events. Religion generally refers to a belief in God, A spiritual person may not be religious but a religious person is always spiritual. Devotion is common to both terms.
Hey could any hardcore Christian's help me understand if I can be spiritual and Christian at the same time??
I’m not but I just read another comment that you can, that you can be aware of your energies and everything else’s while following god, gods book is more of a spiritual book not a book to hold you back but to lead you into the direction you should go through
Honestly the most beautiful way to explain it :) it made me happy and changed my perspective on it “spiritual book”
@@emmamoo435 thank you so much💞💞💞
yes. Google Gospel of Thomas. That's how I woke up. Jesus was spiritual.
Religion vs Spirituality
1. One life verus the idea of many lives.
2. Man as completely different from God versus Man as one with God.
3. Religion for the Masses verus Religion for the individual.
A spiruality is a love compassion
Im spiritual and I’m proud of it so I don’t care what religious people think about me
Religion is learning from other people experiences, while spirituality is having your OWN experience instead.....and that is why I prefer to be more spiritual!
Many say "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual". Well, that's how I see myself as a Christian too. I came to God and He came to me through Jesus of the Bible, 30 years ago, and I don't want anything else 🥰
you follow/worship a Christian god within the religion of Christianity - you’re religious.
Spirituality is good and important but it does not define what is good and what is bad. So when it comes to the question what is good and what is bad you can ask a billion people and you get 10billion answers, that’s where spirituality loses its eligibility. Religious people don’t let other human beings decide about what’s good and bad because humans are limited in thinking, only god is not limited. You should read about all the big 5 world religions do your own research and hopefully you will find not only peace but also the one and only truth. Thanks for reading
Spirituality is the true essence, and the true origin, of every religious movement. So how is it that eventually spirituality gets the back seat, and what we are mostly left with are dogmas and empty rituals?
This is a great discussion right here
I do research on how Buddhism disappeared in Bihar. I realized it never disappeared from Bihar. Buddhists simply failed to research Indian Buddhism. They looked at Buddhism through the sphere of their own cultures searching for only the Buddha. Buddha had a myriad of names in different villages according to his teachings there. Example. His favorite teaching was 'Lust and desire causes pain. Remove lust and desire, and pain is removed'. Translated into Bihari (where the Buddha story took place) it is DHUKH HARAN meaning to remove dukha. Three dozen villages pray to DUKH HARAN Baba. Its clear that DUKH HARAN Baba is none other than the Buddha. Problem is Buddhists are searching only for the Buddha. In the real Vaishali the Buddha begged for alms. The locals there pray to 'BHIKHAINI' Baba (Beggar Baba). Bhikhaini was mispronounced by Buddhists as Bhikshu. Who is BHIKHAINI Baba. The Buddha no doubt. But people are searching for a man called Buddha. In the real Vaishali, in Beluha the Buddha suffered a sickness and felt he had grown old. The locals pray to 'BURHA' Baba (Old Baba). Who is BURHA Baba. The Buddha no doubt. In the real Vaishali the Lichavies pressurized Buddha not to die. They trailed him to Bandagawan pressurizing him not to die. To put pressure in Hindi is DABESHWAR. Three dozen villages around the stupa where Buddha gave the Lichavies his patra, the villagers pray to Baba 'DABESHWAR NATH' meaning the man who won the pressurizing game. It was the the Buddha no doubt as he gave the Lichavies his patra and succeded in sending them back. But Buddhists are searching for the Buddha. Forgive me for commenting out of the topic. I just wanted to impart this information to you.
So this is a very informative video, but does the guy have only one functional eye and they other is a prosthetic.
See im more spiritualist than Christian i mean i guess there are some connections with the bible but for my questioning why would God create us and know everything that's going to happen that knows our every move even if he knows that we would "go to hell" and he knows we wouldn't like that but couldn't he just come to our dreams or for us to have an NDE so we can talk to him and for him to tell us to we should believe the bible from the first to last page? I mean I don't blame people who became an atheist because how can someone believe in a scripture that's been rewritten over the years i mean someone could actually had held onto the scripture and change somethings and that could mess the whole religion thing up and we'll end up in hell like come on now but i do believe in a God who is a loving creator who made us so we can experience love, hate, pain, grief so we can have emotions and yes i do believe in reincarnation (sorry if this whole statement doesn't make sense)
I feel you shag
Im not Christian, or no part of supernatural belief. But I love studying all religions.
To understand the bible you must use greek and hebrew dictionaries. Pastors are afraid to tell members this from what I experienced. But hell in Hebrew is sheol- gravepit. The underworld fireplace is called hades(greek). Lake of fire is the second death(destroying the corps)(cremated).God in the bible is the "god of hope" elpis/elpo in greek. Which means anticipation(usually pleasure) it's a feminine noun and greeks dont call elpis a god. They represent elpis as a spirit, woman, continued suffering. The bible has hidden true meanings that's cluttered in a fictional story which is called a allegorical message. For example: I'm so hungry that I can eat a cow.
Jesus, virgin mary, God are characters who personificate attributes of our solar system to help explain the mechanism of our earth. For example: "Shower blessings". Meant that when food from the storehouse went to the field, god showered rain on the crops. So that everybody ate from the field. (Storehouse was located beside the temple) storehouse stores, foods and seeds which are the tiths(never money). Because money dont grow on trees.
Theres more stories like jesus or a man walking on water as allegorical.
Hope this helps raise an eyebrow
@@giowhy4324 well everyone has their own personal beliefs and it is interesting of what cultures follow and believe
@@shaggythegrim9939 correct, I love studying these things. It's just interesting on how interpretations, words, symbols, literature can come so long. And people overlook on how impactful our ideas are to us and the world itself.
God is omnipotent and has the power to do anything because he is "God". But you are assuming that he uses his power to follow our every step in life. Let's assume that God pays attention to everything that we do in life. Even then he is not controlling our actions because we have "free will". Therefore humans are sending themselves to hell by the actions that they commit. God gives signs to everyone and if you feel like you've received no signs seek a 1 on 1 relationship with God and he will appear to you. The original manuscripts of the Bible which are in "Hebrew" and "Greek" are still available today so if the Bible was altered and changed we would know. English translations are changed to fit the understanding of the reader but overall the original manuscripts are there to observe if you learn either Hebrew or Greek.
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Spiritualism is part of Islam . read about Syed sheikh abdul qadir jilani, Baba Bulleh Shah , Muhammad Iqbal
is it me or spirituality is basically the same as relation?
Religion and spirituality can be together, and many people find spirituality inside their religion, and for them, these differences may not be so relevant or true, since the two things are mixed.
@Kwigz Gully They are intertwined like Yin & Yang
@@VincentGill3 they cant o
very good.
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Religion JUDGEMENTAL CRAP
Yessir, it got forced down my throat. I was literally thinking am I doing bs, when I use to pray to "jesus" but im cooling now
Love this❤️
I believe in none. I believe a relationship with Jesus Christ being lead bye for now the Holy Spirit .
I have to say that the only reason I even stumbled on this video is to obtain research for an essay. I specifically chose religion v.s spirituality because I am a Christian and I know that religion entails it's super natural side. However what I have stumbled on through out my entire research is witch craft and false information manipulating people into thinking Christianity over all is the worst thing that they could choose. That is not the case yes people say that the Bible has dark sides to it but do you even know what sin is? You can steal, kill, lie all of the things that you know are wrong and still Jesus will forgive you if you seek forgiveness. The only reason that sin exist in the first place is because Adam at the fruit that God said not to eat. Why? Because the devil manipulated/ tricked Eve into eating it and by extension Adam. Boom! That's when sin fell on mankind. But there is good news that the Bible clearly stated. God sent his only begotten son, Jesus Christ to die on a cross for our sins. If you believe that Jesus died for your sins, confess it with your mouth and believe in your heart that he is the son of God. Then you are saved, you just need to not live for the world but for God. Ask God to send the Holy Spirit upon you so that he can Guide you. Now your maybe wondering, why is there Jesus and what is the Holy Spirit. Firstly, Jesus is God in the flesh and he has the spirit of God in Him and He is not dead. And the Holy Spirit, he is God in the spirit, he enters us when we ask God to send him upon you so that we are always with God and have discernment. And some one mentioned that the Bible has dark sides to it...Yes it does. Because God gave us free will and if people choose darkness He will not force them to choose the light. He is not responsible for all of the dark things, Satan is . Don't you want to know what the presence of God feels like, do you even know that we, the true Christians, are not afraid of demons. Because our Lord is King of Kings and Lord of Lords we have authority over demons and satan, we can cast out demons, heal the sick and the blind in the name of Jesus. Why? Because Jesus is not dead and He is coming back soon, and it might be sooner than some of you expect. So are you going to sit there and say "well some of the Bible is missing so I don't read it and they killed people in the Bible so it's not good etc". Please do not do this we cannot change back time to what was "stolen" I am not sure or this, however God did allow it for a reason. God's word (the Holy Bible) is power and knowledge and wisdom. Have a relationship with Jesus. Talk to him from your heart, he listens and answers prayers. Also please do not think that prayers are like magic tricks, God reveals all that we need to know for the good plans He has for us on His own timings. Please do not believe in this spiritual which craft and come to what Jesus has in store for us. Remember Jesus Loves you and through him you have eternal life in Heaven, rather than eternal separation and death from him in Hell. The devil wants to trick you into believing that Jesus is not real or the devil himself is not real, please don't fall prey to this. From the beginning Satan was an lier, he is the father of lies and all that he wants it to seal (souls too), kill (hell is the second and eternal death) and destroy. Also not all religion is of God. These religions are Mormanism, Catholic, Buddah, Islam, Satanism and lots more. All religions that are not Christianity these are false, the devil just uses this as another way to trick you. It doesn't matter if your gay, steal, lie or sin, just know that Jus forgives sins. Being gay is not normal that's Jezebel (a demon)...all things in this world is spiritual And just as there are demons my living God has angels protectin us from these demons. If you want to know more about Christianity and know that my words are not false or if your even curious please watch @richard Lorenzo jr or @First Love Church. Richard is a living example of the wonders the Jesus Christ can do. Love you guys❤️
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Sorry but spirituality is the materialistic scientific version of religion its actually the new religion that provides a necessary alternative for the people.
But religion is a way to find the truth and answer the necessary questions of existence.
Spirituality doesn't care about the truth it stays in the skeptical realm as majority of people today.
I think you got spirituality and religion mixed up
Spirituality is the true essence, and the true origin, of every religious movement. So how is it that eventually spirituality gets the back seat, and what we are mostly left with are dogmas and empty rituals?
You got it completely backwards
religion is so you have some thing to argue about..
Yes he is really correct. ..and some jihadi or muslim would still not belive it cuz they are hurt by truth mm...Qur'an and isalm is totaly distoyed by sperituality .isalm is not good ...and we will not be it or follow it ..instead of it .we will help each other and do real peace and good to world and
Bravo.
JESUS is the answer 😊
You look like Harrison Ford.
What is the truth of it all?
The Corruption of Understanding
Christianity has corrupted Understanding. Fathers are not creators. It takes both father and Mother to create a child and the mother has more to do with the creation than does the father. The child is attached to the mother for nine months receiving nutriments for the creation. Religion has refused to give respect to the female until the modern time.
And Gods are not creators. There are a great many Gods that have been worshiped. Gods are just Imaginary mythical personages of worship; Gods are not Creators.
There is one and only Great Creator. And the Great Creator is not an imaginary mythical personage somewhere in space.
The basic principle of Christianity is unjust, it is fraud. To kill one man for the crime of all humanity is truly fraud. It is also human sacrifice. It is Leading down from the Jewish animal sacrifice. It is all very primitive and ignorant.
Christianity goes to other nations and successfully deceives many of them in the worshiping of their Imaginary Mythical Gods.
Then, they go to war for the nation that they worship and kills their own member of their own churches.
That Christian Nation performed the Greatest Massacre of human history.
The Two Nuclear bombs dropped on Japan.
We Who are Honest Claims no Authority.
Yes, we who are honest are just honest with our understanding.
The absolutes are not within the human intelligence. However, Honesty is the basic of wisdom.
Christianity’s basic principles promotes dishonesty. You are to accept what you are told. You need no proof or understanding. Truly fraud: one man executed for the crimes of all Humanity. It is from the primitive sacrificing of animals to their many Mythical Gods.
It is True Science and the unseeable spiritual activity that has proven the existence of the Great Creator. It is not religion that has proven anything. As religion is based on Fantasy.
The Great Creator is not a being as most religions claim: ‘as one of those imaginary mythical gods some were in space.’
And Evolution does not mean that there is no Great Creator. Evolution is perhaps and likely, just one of the outstanding process of the Great Creator.
The spiritual realms are the most important part of True Science.
The Great Creator, Matter, Energy, Knowledge, Space, and Time has always existed, No beginning and no end. And cannot be created or destroyed.
The Great Creator Saturates and Surrounds all Existence.
Matter, Energy, Knowledge, Space, and Time are just different viewpoints and concepts of the Great Creator. They all are just components of the Great Creator from different perspectives.
Religion has been the failed and futile attempt to search for the Great Creator and to the understanding of creation.
And creation is only the rearrangement of Matter. We just call that rearrangement, creation. Matter is not created from nothing; Matter has always existed. And there is an abundance of matter in the endlessness of space.
And knowledge and understanding are not created in the human brain. The brain was only designed and created to receive Knowledge.
Truth is all that truly exists. Other than Truth there is just the understood concept of an absence.
Even lies, whether intended to deceive or not, are Fantasy. Lies remain in the Fantasy realms, in the nonexistent realm.
And as for those who think that the creation of the universe and life was created without intelligence, are in the world of fantasy.
The principle of loving and caring for.
all others as we would like to be loved and cared for is True Science. And it is the bases of justice It is not religion. It has nothing to do with the fantasy of the worshiping of the Gods.
This is just words to the honest and wise: honesty and understanding is the only true belief.
Without honesty and understanding we do not know what to believe.
To accept other’s opinion of the truth without proving it to yourself; it is being deceived it is not believing.
We must understand to believe.
Until Next time; Sweet Dreams: truth will solve all our problems before we create them; and ignore or reject the truth; problems will multiply all by themselves; those problems will need no help.
Have a great and a meaningful life if it is at all possible.
Just whispers, of the Ghost of Reality.
@@charlieepershall4345 could you explain spirituality. I know religion is a massive fraud but I hear that spirituality is true unlike religion. Could you perhaps explain spirituality so I can research on the correct points on what you said?
@@xx_blitz_xx_80 Spirituality is True Science Not Religion
I will have been 90 years on this earth, next year. In my lifetime I have experienced Many miracles and spiritual activity. There has been much spiritual activity among My Kin and close associates.
Children revealed knowledge they could not have known except from spiritual realms. Much foretelling of the future; And miracles of healings.
One outstanding example is my mother at about twelve years old dreamed that my grandfather was shot in the back and rob of five hundred dollars by his favorite nephew. Some years back I and my oldest brother looked him up and had a visit with him. He had been out of prison for many years when we had our visit with him. He told us that he suffered more in his conscience all his life more than the time he was in prison.
Even those children born with special talents are the result of spirit activity.
It is very difficult for those who have not experienced these things to understand the spiritual realms.
Spirituality has nothing to do with the worshiping of the Imaginary Mythical Gods. There are great many Gods. Gods are just Imaginary Mythical Personages of worship.
There is just one and only Great Creator that created all that exists.
Words to the honest and wise: honesty and understanding is the only true belief.
Without honesty and understanding we do not know what to believe.
To accept other’s opinion of the truth without proving it to yourself; it is being deceived it is not believing.
We must understand to believe.
Truth will solve all our problems before we create them; and ignore or reject the truth; problems will multiply all by themselves; those problems will need no help.
Have a great and a meaningful life if it is at all possible.
Just whispers, of the Ghost of Reality.
@@charlieepershall4345 okay but how does spirituality work? From start to end and what exactly does it do to you that makes you experience what you stated? And also why does it do what it does?
@@xx_blitz_xx_80 Life itself appears to be spirit. Fundamental Science
True Science is the studies, research and understanding of the Great Creator and the Great Creator’s Great Creation.
Creation is only the rearrangement of Matter. As knowledge, space, and time, Matter has always existed. And there is an abundance of Matter in the endlessness of space. Matter was not created from nothing.
And Evolution is just one of the processes the Great Creator used in creation.
Time and speed are of no concern in the great creation, as the Great Creator’s time is endless. There is no need to hurry with anything. It is only the human that is in such a hurry, as the time for a human is very limited.
Truth is all that truly exists. Other than truth there is just an understood concept of an absence. Even a lie, with intent to deceive or not, is fantasy, it is in the nonexistent realms.
All creation is subject to its creator.
The human has a great desire to be free. However, all life is born into the bondage of Truth. Truth has absolute boundaries. And freedom has no boundaries and freedom is chaos and brings destruction in the end. However, since all creation is subject to its creator, no human has the right to dominate other humans. As they are not the creator of any human.
Religion as Government is dominion. And all dominion is corrupt and will eventual be destroyed.
The principle of loving and caring for.
all others as we would like to be loved and cared for is True Science. And it is the bases of justice It is not religion. It has nothing to do with the fantasy of the worshiping of the Gods.
Christianity goes to other nations and successfully deceives many of them in the worshiping of their Imaginary Mythical Gods.
Then, they go to war for the nation that they worship and kills their own member of their own churches.
That Christian Nation performed the Greatest Massacre of human history.
The Two Nuclear bombs dropped on Japan.
This is just words to the honest and wise: honesty and understanding is the only true belief.
Without honesty and understanding we do not know what to believe.
To accept other’s opinion of the truth without proving it to yourself; it is being deceived it is not believing.
We must understand to believe.
Until Next time; Sweet Dreams: truth will solve all our problems before we create them; and ignore or reject the truth; problems will multiply all by themselves; those problems will need no help.
Have a great and a meaningful life if it is at all possible.
Just whispers, of the Ghost of Reality.
Religion is commercial
I never met two people who define spirituality the same. The term is so vague and foggy it becomes useless.
Spirituality is the true essence, and the true origin, of every religious movement. So how is it that eventually spirituality gets the back seat, and what we are mostly left with are dogmas and empty rituals?
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Both are wrong.
His interpretation of these, lots of it was too surface.
i liked it but 100+ videos twice now?
Both are the same - all imagination...!
Religion and spirituality can be together, and many people find spirituality inside their religion, and for them, these differences may not be so relevant or true, since the two things are mixed.
Spirituality is the true essence, and the true origin, of every religious movement. So how is it that eventually spirituality gets the back seat, and what we are mostly left with are dogmas and empty rituals?
@@VincentGill3 Yep ... and still all imagination... as there are no gods...
@@briendoyle4680 its not
@@ray_x6959 as there are no gods proven...
feel free to try,......
@@briendoyle4680 i know thier is no god proven but thier is definitely a outter power out thier. but i am spiritual we dont worship no god or jesus, Muhammad or all the other 1,000 fake religions. spiritually and religion are two very different thing's
You got something hanging off your chin
Another sociologist trashes religion. He presents a caricature of religion at best. I am surprised...
A serial killer could be spiritual in that he believes in a higher power directs his behavior
I don't think thata spiritual person could not kill because being spiritual is actually loving... That is what religion preaches though non actually fully love cuz religion dogma separated us...
@@lalbiaksangibawihtlung9891 what if they were connected to evil spirits of malice?
It's not a higher power, it's a higher consciousness.
More like mentally ill
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you can’t expect someone who spent their life selfishly and carelessly sinning to have end up in the same place as someone who spent their life striving to be good and commit good deeds...
the tainted cannot go to heaven. it’s a place exclusive for the purified.
God loves you, but humans do many things everyday worthy of hatred.
God loves you, don’t do things that’d make Him hate you.
God forgives, but He won’t turn a blind eye to the sins of those who don’t acknowledge their misdeeds, or those who don’t repent.
the only people who fear God are those who have done many wrongs and know it.
the only people who fear God are those who feel intimidated by Him, heaven and hell.
a good person has no reason to fear God. He is merciful and kind.