Meze VS Meze! YOU Decide! 99 Classics VS 99 Neos!
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Very rarely do you find a video that's 100% what you needed. For me, this video was it. On the other hand, it just pushed me towards getting the 99 Classics and put a bigger hole in my wallet.
I was going to get the Neo’s to save that hundo as most people said they sounded same as Classics, with a bit more bass just as you said. My ears heard quite a difference though; a smoother, warmer, buttery sound from the Classics which is right up my alley- and the mids sounded recessed in the Neo’s. Now I will read others comments to see if I have a clue what I’m talking about..
If they sound good to you, that's all the confirmation you need imho :)
Care to give an update on the classics after (presumably) 2 years of usage?
@@charlesgoldt7943 Agreed! Although if I’m honest I don’t pull out the Classics as much now. I also have Sennheiser 458’s and Hifiman XS. The Classics are in 3rd place for sound, they are just a bit veiled compared to the others. Way better looking and super comfortable though (especially compared to the Hifiman’s), nice for long listening sessions. I still like them and still use them to this day.
Did you notice the decay of the bass between the 2? To me the classics bass sounded better overall. The neo seemed to have a very short decay on the bass. Like it didn't have any of the sound after the initial hit of the note as opposed to the natural harmonic quality that it should have had
The Neo by far. Sharper, clearer. But I'd have liked to hear a sample of electronic music.
People hear things a lot differently so when I’m one of the few to say I definitely prefer the neos over the classics. I like the classics and how wide they feel but I like the much closed in kinda sound that feels so sharp.
100% agree
Muchísimas gracias por la excelente comparativa!!!
I ordered a pair of the Noirs back in June from Mass Drop. They should be arriving in early October. They're pretty much the same as the Classics. Can't Wait!!!!
Bill Hoffman
I like the Classics, they had plenty of bass and beautiful mids and the highs were refined with plenty of clarity. To me the Neos sounded like they had a layer of flim covering them. Great sound for $300.
Hey, I’m Bill Hoff Man
Wow, a clear difference between the classics, which are wider and airier sounding to me, and the neo with a much more closed in and midrange focus. I'd prefer the classics for my personal listening.
Hi Ron and a big thanks for the demo! It’s funny though how people perceive the opposite. It probably depends on our headphones used to listen to those two headphones. I in AWWH with the Classic wooden cup but can’t help finding the Neo more neutral and linear. Classics sound richer and more natural but a little more boxed. The Neo are more airy while the soundstage seems flat. Depth is more obvious with the Classic. So, the « it’s up to you to decide » is very clever while not helpful 😜 cause right now I’m very confused on which one I would prefer! 🤪
I'm Treble sensitive, Wharfedale Denton speaker owner.... Bought the 99 Neo and would describe Meze as having the warm Wharfedale sound in headphone form.
Have both, love both.
I could happy with either, but my definite first choice would be the classics. I would spend the extra for the classics.
Excellent job.
I’ve purchased the 99 classics for about 2 years now there my go to home headphones! I purchased a larger pair of brainwaves ear pads of sheepskin leather for my big ears! Opened up the soundstage and made them pillow like soft! You won’t regret purchasing these bad boys!
How are the Neos compared to Classics in your opinion?
I would like to ask ??? If I'm not to late.Leakage is one of the most important aspects of these headphones now as my wife always shouts at me to turn that bloody music down with pur evil in her eyes...I was told these headphones are great for stopping this from music haters.Is this true ???
This sounds more like variation in position than variation in the actual headphones. You can actually see that the Classics are seated lower (which tends to give a wider and more muffled sound) than the Neos, which are visibly higher. Most headphones change their sound quite a bit dependign on positon - the reader can check this with their own headphones. You might want to try the methodology of doing several recordings of the same headphone positioned differently on the dummy head - I'm almost certain you'll find the differences to be comparable to the one in this video.
Bellissima recensione. Bravo!
Ron great video and I liked the comparisons. You'll have to do more; great job. I agree, the mids seem to be a bit more forward & up front and tad bit brighter on the neo's. I also appreciate that Meze practices humane treatment of teddy bears! Makes me wonder, what lengths Josh will go to concerning headphone components and the stuffed animal community, what's next rubber chicken feet :).
Ron, Thanks for the demo. To me, on my system, the 99 Neo wins big! Higher treble and more detailed. If I had the bux and the need - a 99 Neo set would be on order.
I have the meze classics but dumped it when I bought Audeze LCD-X and Hifiman Arya. I have grown to love planars.
The Neo's have a midbass and upper midrange boost that gives a slight V curve while the Classic's sound more linear if tilted downward. I also get a better sense of space with the Classic's. As you know my Grado's have a very linear midrange but rather forward treble. I'm curious whether their new X-series drivers address that longstanding issue.
I hear that the Neo's lost some resolution in the higher tons, when the classics on the other hands sound clearer, but are less body'ed... You can hear the Neo's prevalent bass extension, except it being just more present but that's an expected outcome.
I prefer the classics, but I don't feel like spending that much on any kind of headphone, even though I really appreciate the audio quality.
JV and DMX. They can be a real handful
Yuuuuup……that Junior Varsity can be a real beeyotch, can’t they? 😬
they sure are great headphones... just a sweetheart deal for a used pair of Focal Celetstee and I'm in love.
Thank you for this comparison. Definitely the Classics.
So I heard the difference right away on my cell phone before I could get to my headphones for a listen. The classics are smoother in every way. Interesting! I may be biased though, I just picked up a pair of classics about a month ago and really enjoying them.
They are a bit bass heavy if the music has the content but overall very nice!
Hi. Great comparison. What are the music traks you use in the comparison from Epidemic sound? Curious to know so I can compare the sound straight from my system and trough your system. Mostly for getting a "own" baseline for how it should sound at my place.
I bought this morning the Classic After I was considering to buy the Neo, your recension confirmed my impression more general air and detail channel separation on Classic, maybe on the female voice a better equilibrium on Neo but my choice was right, the difference in price Is certainly justified
If you need/prefer closed back these are both great choices. I like the Classics, more balanced.
On my room corrected speakers, the 99Classics have a wider soundstage, which is to my liking. The Neos are definitely narrower. I'm intrigued to hear them in person now. Thanks Ron! :)
Welcome! They are both great headphones!
Ron, you have been telling me for awhile I need these headphones. Thanks for reviewing and comparing these beautiful headphones 🎧
When’s your birthday man?!
@@Newrecordday2013 May 5th Cinco de Mayo
We will get you a set around that time buddy.
@@Newrecordday2013 I'm speechless, Thanks. I'll have to return the favor.
The Neos sound brighter/more detailed, the Classics sound smoother and warmer. Neos seem to have more upper mids and treble, Classics seem to have more even mids and slightly recessed treble. Originally I thought the Neos were better bc of the treble but the mids just aren't as good. I imagine the Classics could sound dull depending on the recording, but on well mixed stuff they'd probably sound better.
are you kidding the classics are way better
listening to the differences on my HD650s, and I really like the sound of the neos more, which sucks because I like the looks of the classics more. If the neos had a gold finish, I would like the looks equally well. I guess the Neos have it, because I want a good traveling headphone, and my 1060Cs are not going to cut it until I am able to replace the headband and cable... on second thought, I should just return them, and I dont want to worry about batteries on my galaxy buds while traveling.
I’m glad I’m not the only one still preferring the first gen galaxy buds over newer alternatives
I would love a visual of the headphone in a corner while you're talking about them. Very visual over here.
Have a pair of Aeolus from ZMF. First great pair of cans I've had and was blown away by the balance. They're open back so I was very curious about how the bass would hold up. I found very quickly what warmth really meant. The best description of the sound I can give is "simply beautiful." Powerful and full, but soft and give your ears room to breathe with the open back. GORGEOUS design as well. Solid build.
Thanks for sharing listening samples of another couple pairs. Much appreciated 🤘
What I find interesting is the different ways people describe these headphones. Audiophiles and that sort of group tend to say that they have a lot of bass; even too much bass, and not very well defined highs. Everyone else who isn't really an audiophile says they are a little bassy, but very warm and relaxed. I think I shall prefer the opinion of the non-audiophiles, because I'm not an audiophile and therefore what the non-audiophiles say they sound like is probably going to be more accurate to how I hear them. I'm saving up for a pair of Classics and I can't wait to get them!
Audiophiles tend to listen for hours everyday so the bass can be fatiguing for them, that's why they tend to like more neutral headphones for their long listening sessions. Most people don't use their headphones for that long, so the bass isn't a problem. It depends on your music taste too. The Meze 99 is incredibly smooth when the music doesn't have a lot of bass.
@@ROCKSTAR3291 Funny that you would comment on this. I did get a pair of 99 Classics and have had them for several months now. I got an EQ program so I get extra-neutral sound, but I will turn it off for gaming when I want the extra bass punch. It is very interesting, actually, how much the EQ changes the bass. With it turned off, I can immediately notice the extra bass, and I've actually noticed that I'm able to tell when I've left the EQ off because stuff sounds too bassy.
why are the track listings only available to patrons? unless you made the music, that doesnt really seem fair. i really liked the 2nd song, it reminds me of walk through the park by tracktribe
There's something warm and beautiful about the Classics that is missing from the Neos. I'm picking up a set of Noirs, which I hope will sound just as good as the Classics. They appear to be the same, just a darker wood stain and all black metal pieces. This was a great demo, much appreciated!
Where are you picking up those noires? Drop has been out of stock for them for while now. I keep hoping they show up again.
@@franckthetanck9905 just in case you havnt already seen, currently back in stock! My pair is coming next week.
Been trying to decide between these 2 and the Noirs. Just made a strong argument for the Classics, love that buttery, linear sound. Great video, thanks Ron.
Is it just me or are the cheaper Neos a little better? I like their look more too.
I heard right speaker louder. Especially when Classic played.
Was interested in these as an all around and on the go pair though I was recently told that the cables have a microphonic issue. Wondering if you (or anybody on the chat) experienced that? Dig the aesthetics and liked the classic sound better with most of the tracks.
I don’t hear and have not heard any micro-phonics with mine.
Is the sound difference really as stark as heard in the end of the vid? Or is that because I'm listening to this through HyperX Cloud Alphas? Because the two sets of cans sound worlds different.
Love my Classics :)
Love Bluma Petersen Halfway Heart! As for the headphones... the Classic sound better (cleaner midrange). Incidentally I have the grado SR80e and the Meze Classic... very different sound, I prefer the grados except maybe for the bass. Both miles behind my dear Stax...
Hearing on my HD6xx the classics are a clear winner, more airy and bigger soundstage.
There are only 3 headphones that are on my radar as end game level desktop audio solutions: 1) Hifiman Aryas or Susvara 2) Staxx 700s, and 3) Abyss 1266 Phi TCs.
99 Classics - to my ear, it's top dog of the two. Classic has a cleaner punch on low end, and vocals have a touch more air. both are solid.
its the 99 classic for me it sounds so natural and effortless , the neo have a very odd sound signature
Actually they are a tad small for my mellon. Maybe my ears are a little low but while good sounding, they missed on the comfort issue sending me on to the lovely HiFiman Sundaras. Or as Josh Valour says, "Heisermans."
Seeing the Neo's on John Darko's channel before seeing you waring them in your Danny R. conversation and compairing them against the lifeless Sony XM-1000 yada yadas also made them even more enjoyable. As did all my musical choices. Now, no thanks to you, l'm going for the Classic's. If only finding the rest of the audio equipment I long for with a ceiling budget of $2500 for my tiny room was as easy. Sadly, no room for vynal, however CD's and Streaming work. The Search Continues. I do have one question though have you had any micro harmonic issues. I bought an after market OFC supposedly Pro cable set and noticed excess harmonics through the cable whenever it rubbed anything and noticed switching back to stock eliminated most, but not all of it. I also wonder if its due to my laptop.
Heya what are the songs featured in this video?
The NEO lack detail and feel constricted in airiness but are tuned to appear 'sharper' with edge to the sound. Overall, the 99 Classics win for me. But for a 100 bucks, the NEO are great and I'd be happy to own them, especially if I needed a travel pair of cans. Would hate to lose or damage anything more expensive than that.
The Meze 99 Classics sounds perfect.
I wonder how the classic compare to the Senns HD650?
Both are good, but different. The Classics sound a little more natural but the Neo's are a bit more intimate.
Came across Neo’s BNIB on marketplace, low balled $115….on their way.
The classic made me smile while listening to it, I think that's enough..
Neo’s are 26 ohm & Classics are 32 ohm. Ordered both. Keeping the Classics. Have more bass than and sound better than the Neo’s, if you ask me.
What about the sony mdr 1am2?
I do own the Neo's but never had an opportunity comparing them to the Classics. My main (and perhaps only) issue with the Neo's is the "boomy" mid-bass which seems not to be as pronounced on the Classics in your recordings. I have to EQ the Neo's because of that. Seems Classics would suit better my taste. Otherwise the 99's remain the only closed backs in my collection because of how "open" they sound when comparing them to other closed backs. And surely, because of how they look like, I admit...
How is the lower midrange and warm/fullness of your pair? Given peoples peoples narratives, I was expecting the neos to be the warmer headphone but it seemed like the classics definitely shined way more in that area.
The Classic for me.
Heyy I am thinking about buying a Meze 99 Classic. Is the Meze 99 Classic beter then my Sony Wh-1000xm3?
Yes, by far.
I think I like the highs on the neo more.
Any one else notice that the neo has very short decay on the bassier notes? It was very clear to me. Kind of disappointing. The bass sounded great on the neo but it died away very quickly.
I want a Plutonium amp....
I think the classics are a little bit more neutral than the neos. Just a little more relaxed with a sprinkling of high end, whereas the neos are warmer. Prefer the classics
Hate those snobbish reviewers too.
Neos for me.
definately a huge difference to me, listening on nowhere close to reference level gear i honestly prefer the classics
I must be an outlier. Most reviewers love this headphone. I thought it sounded terrible. Bass was muddy and it bled into everything. To my ears it sounded like blown speakers almost.
Subbed upon hearing “blood of teddy bears”…..😬
6:15 6:40
Meze 99 Wood color = Winner
The classics sound fuller while the neo's sound somewhat subdued.
I think the neos are better. though I think the model with the serial number 455707 is alot better tbh. it’s sound is so incredibly **nuclear** that it makes you want to **launch** yourself full of excitement and **code**
They are super bossy. Am I and others just confused?
I love you
No no no, I'm only willing to spend 100........ although 😏
Neo more on the upper mids, Classics more low mids. Not the same presentation at all. Prefer the classics even if the mids are muddier..
Late comer after just stumbling on these headphones. Bigger soundstage/more spatial on the Classic which I think is why the Neo perceives to have more bass, so much more is in the centre of your head versus immersed in it with the Classics. Neo to me would be more a 'studio' can while Classic would be a musical can.
not my sound
The neos sound inferior - the classics are much clearer more detailed and less 'muffled' sounding in the mids.
Listened to this video through grado SR80e's
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amplifiers is a scam in general...these days pc motherboards drive any headphones under 600ohms...
Difference not worth 100.
😂 Tossing 🫢
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Classic better but I didnt like them. Prefered my Audio Technica ATH-M50X
overpriced