Opera Singer and Vocal Coach reacts to Jinjer - Pisces (Live Session)
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- Juilliard trained opera singer and voice coach reacts to Jinjer performing their song Pisces.
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In today’s video, I show you my reaction, as a Juilliard trained opera singer, to Jinjer, a Ukrainian heavy metal band from Donetsk, Ukraine, performing their song Pisces. 🎶❤️ I really hope you enjoy this video and if you have any feedback or comments please leave them below! I love talking to you all and hearing what you’re up to! 💃🏻❤
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Hmm would love to see your reaction to the song Krigsgaldr from the band Heilung
Id love you too react to voice play. Especially the oogie boogie song or the their Moana medley or their queen medley.
There's a little kid that performed like 10 years ago that will get your jaw dropped. His name is JOTTA! His singing, and performance are fenomenal. I recomend Halleluja (2 different songs he performs both). I really hope you check him out.
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Other Pisces-reaction hobbyists here?😂
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Yup 😂
I'm more of a Nightwish-reaction hobbyist. But almost everyone who did a Nightwish reaction has done at least one Pisces reaction ;)
I’m lucky if I can find a new one a day. Sometimes I find 3 new ones.
🤣🤘
ahhh, jinjer reactions... it never gets old
😁
@@maggiereneemusic you were commenting on the drummer, here’s something interesting about that, I believe this song is played in 7/4
Nope , never gets old.
This song gets em every time....lol 😁
I've watched a lot of them in my free time. It truly doesn't get old
@@pacificcoastpiper3949 I thought it was more 7/8 with 3/4 heading towards the chorus. At least that was the feel I got from the few listens I've had of this. First time hearing this today - and it won't be the last that's for sure.
Maggie: "It's very chill and nice. It reminds me of Hillary Duff. It's nothing like when I think of heavy metal..."
Jinjer fans: "Wait for it....Wait for it..."
Lol!😁
My exact thought lol
every single reaction we are like that haha
exactly
I said "buckle up buttercup" lol
"its so just, chill."
BRACE FOR IMPACT BOIS
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Even though I kind of saw this one coming, it still hit like a Quantum torpedo up the aft
Lmao
looks like all of them who react this song say the same thing(or almost)
The minute I saw “opera singer” I knew this would be the funniest Pisces reaction
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Maggie Reneé I sure will try🖤
Same here. Hhaha
Hahaha i think Julia Nilon is even funnier
Check out the charismatic voice. Another opera singer reaction
Jinjer creating metalheads one person at a time
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Jinjer raised the bar in heavy metal, like Dimash in opera and make it available to the masses. Like Dimash made it with opera.
@@77aleks77100 EXACTLY. You get people listening to metal who otherwise would just have walked away...
@@michaelmaag3098 And you get people like me who love both opera and metal.
@@ThallanarRabidtooth actually the most natural combination, as e.g. very first Rock Opera lead singer is Ian Gillan from proto-metal Deep Purple. What makes Jinjer unique is multiple vocal techniques with the single singer, e.g. NightWish were massive with "clean" Opera vocalist and of course there are scores of "sympho" and prog bands out there... Thanks Maggie for a professional review!
Even after 2 years watching reactions to this it never gets old
😀
Nertz, it never does 😉 this is like my 7th Jinjer reaction tonight
@@jasonwillett2126 i feel you. i just heard this song for the first time and im already going down the rabbit hole of wacthing reactions
@@OMIMmusic Check out the reaction from The Fairy Voice Mother. She takes a sip of tea right when Tatiana drops the first growl. Best. Ever. Haha
I think that my favorite part about these reactions is that they ALL pause before the chorus & mention how beautiful her vocal quality is.
Every. Single. Time. 🤣
Yes! It kind of has become a hobby of mine. And for some reason it is always other women, who seem to be suprised the most.
Every time lol
Jinjer live at Wacken 2019 performing , Perennial.
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Maggie Reneé this is a must, you really get to see her power on stage. I would also suggest Live version of “Who is gonna be the One”, if really want to see how low her growl can go. Plus the M/V for “Teacher, Teacher” is great too
Absolutely I agree...
Please react to this it's a gem.
Absolutely worth and definitive proof of Jinjer power as a band.
Jinjer - Teacher Teacher has even more quick switch ups between growl and clean... it's nuts!
😁
Indeed. Piesces is a good introduction to Jinjer especially when you haven't heard them before. Although Teacher Teacher and Perennial live show even more of their skills but have less of the "shock factor" of Piesces which in my opinion is emphasizing the two opposing sides usually associated with the zodiac.
Yes do teacher, teacher as next. Such a great song 🥰
I was going to recommend it. Awesome song.
Teacher Teacher is one of my favourite tracks - theres one part where Tatiana switches partway through a word. That takes some serious skill and control!
"The whole vibe of this video is so chill..."
Me: *sips tea*
Aw, thanks! 😊
Honestly I love how a lot of metal and hardcore bands have these really beautiful moments in the instrumentation full of clarity before it goes into the heavy parts.
*Sips tea* "Bloody hell"
Every. Single. Time.
And it is always what we have come to expect and love.
Haha
"Her voice sounds poppy" lol, Grab some popcorn and wait for the drop
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Ahh, welcome to the world of gutteral screaming. Yes, this is 100% her real voice!
LOL! Thanks for the welcome! 😍
There's a bit of doubling on it tho but yeah. Genuine.
@@zorzevic Eh most bands use doubling to fill out their tracks. People are used to backing tracks now.
Especially in the growling sections, there are two vocal tracks, one lower pitched and one higher. That helps to give a more “demonic” sound. It’s a common vocal production technique in extreme metal
It's not her real voice. Fake AF.
Maggie: "The vibe is just so, like, chill"
Me: *Evil grin
Lol! 😁
*>:)*
Same. I giggled when she said that.
Every time I hear someone say that all I think of is “you’ve just activated my trap card”
That was my reaction too 😅
Hun, no metal fan would ever find that sexiest or whatever. Honestly, metalheads would welcome you with open arms, hand you a beer, and show the intricacies of head banging. The last one was silly, but welcome to the family.
Thank you very much!😁❤
As someone who joined the metal scene as a Goth at the age of 14, this is very true. Even the older metal heads were like oh my goth a precious child to protec, but also toss in the moshpit :p
OpheliacsLament That is the one thing I don’t think people can understand until they have experienced it. It always makes me laugh when someone sees the pit and are terrified. Honesty, that is one of the safest places you can be. Sure, you might get nudged and pushed around a little bit, but that is because the entire pit becomes a single moving entity. However, as soon as some idiot gets a little to excited and carried away, the crowd will fix that there and then...and if the pit misses it, the band doesn’t and set things straight immediately. It’s a good family to be part of. 🤘🏻
Agreed
Yes! I attend metal festivals like CopenHell - you will be hard pressed to find a friendlier crowd than metal fans in a metal festival.
After the first growl early in the song, my favorite part is at 22:20 when Tatiana let’s loose. So powerful!!!!
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Maggie: Her vocal quality is kind of poppy... Tatiana: Hold my beer... You should react to Perennial Live at Wacken. Her switches between clean and growl are seamless...
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
I totally agree with this suggestion!
Its insanely impressive
It's such a great song and performance
Almost like its edited haha
Vlad the drummer is the only trained musician in the band. Everyone else is self taught.
Thanks for the info! 😁
And it SHOWS. his technicallity is off the charts
If you don't mind, I'd like to correct that one a little bit: she had different teachers, and on the false fold technique, she happened to have the same teacher than Irina, the Ukrainian singer of of of my favorite French bands, Blazing War Machine.
And there's an obvious shift, for the better, in the song structure and composition after Vlad joined.
Eugene (bass) is absolutely incredible on his instrument.
You: I'm hoping to hear something different.
Jinjer fans (rubbing their hands): Muahahahahah!!!
Lol!😀
Happens to the best of us XD
Hahaba
Check out the sound of silence by disturbed!
Jinjer fans (after the reaction): Another convert exxxxcellent. XD
I love looking at people being such masters at the music they break all walls between genres and you just appreciate the awesomeness of their art.
Thank you for your comment. Did you like my new video I just posted?
It's even funnier when you know they actually shot this video to show off the new drummer's skills and not Tatiana's.
😊
oh I was equally impressed by the whole band honestly.
I honestly don't think any one band member outplays any of the others. They are all EXTREMELY tight, and well rehearsed. Beautiful sound, great band...
@@1x1nDone Yeah but the point of the video is that they got a new drummer and wanted to showcase him. Album version of this song has their old drummer with different drumming so when you know it already you can focus on the new drummer
Her: It’s just so chill and reminds me of when I was in the studio
Me: (rubbing hands together) ooohhhhh this is gonna be fun
LOL! 😍
@@maggiereneemusic hello i Hope you're Fine after this video :P but if you want there is another woman which have same voice (many women in extreme metal style) this wonan is lead vocal of Abnormality, for me is perfect woman growl, so strong and heavy :) have a good day :) (i Hope my English is... Correct)
Mad respect that your initial response to hearing her growl was to look up how it works and try to empathize instead of judging 10/10 ❤️
Thanks so much for your kind comment!😁❤
@@maggiereneemusic You got my sub coz of the way you tried to find out how it works and explaining vocal techniques and the anatomy of the throat, keep it up! 😀😀
@@maggiereneemusic In the beginning with low volumes instead of a growl go for like a faked burp (chug a beer or soda for inspiration if needed) with a dropped larynx with open relaxed throat. You should feel pretty heavy vibration like a cat purring, then sing/throat hum in your lowest register and raise volume to adjust. I think.. I only do Karaoke but that seems to get the sound out for me. just discovered your channel, but I'm absolutely loving it. Also, I'd love it if you reacted to The Misfits - Dig Up Her Bones (Punk) and/ or Lamb of God - Bootscraper (Metal). 🦁
Exactly why I subscribed. It's "wow how did they do that" not "this isn't my thing so it must suck." I wish I'd been this open when I was studying music.
@@horsepuncher95 I so agree! @Maggie Renee you seem to be an amazing fan of music and appreciative of the techniques and skills involved. I really appreciate your enthusiasm and how you explain things.
I love Tatiana's voice. Incredible range.
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When Tatiana’s voice gets tired from regular singing she switches to growls to give it a rest.
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Honestly I could believe that
PiousMoltar it’s true 🙂
@@maggiereneemusic there's something to this to be honest. You use your false chords usually for these growls when done properly. I find it hard to find the right oral and throat positioning at first when I do it and sometimes later because I'm new to it. But when I find those spots it's damn near effortless. No real strain and I can easily switch to cleans with no issue. Sometimes it drags up some phlem though which fucks with me when I do a quick switch from time to time.
The interesting part is that these extreme vocals aren't nearly as loud as you might think. Depending on what pitch you want and how much air you give it and other stuff it can be pretty much middle of the road volume!
TheSaltyBeard when I’m trying to get into my false chords use a certain piece of a song mine is lamb of god or trying to imitate a dog bark works well for me
There is nothing more enjoyable than seeing "that look" on everyone's face when she turns the growl on. It doesn't matter who it is and no one sees this coming. I was very impressed by your instant desire to know how she does this. You will get a ton of recommendations from Jinjer fans for more. This band can be relied on for really great songs especially their live TH-cam videos. "Perennial" live at Wacken is a good start. I don't know if you have heard Diana Ankudinova with her cover of "Wicked Game" but I think she will interest you. Have fun and enjoy your Planet Earth musical journey. Great Art is Everywhere!
+1 for Diana Ankudinova, and also one day would like to see a reaction to Polinga Gagarina singing Kukushka from Singer 2019
is she really singing? I wonder, perhaps a man is singing, but we see her face??? Because that's unbelievable. No. That looks and sounds impossible ...
@@NurBull the false cords aren't impacted by sexual dimorphism. They are just flaps of tissue that evolved to close the trachea when we need to generate internal abdomenal pressure to lift a heavy weight or push out a hard turd. So there isn't female false cord growling and male false cord growling - fry screaming is a bit different because the sound is partially done with the vocal cords though which is where most people's idea of what a femal growler or screamer sounds like. The size of the instrument matters though, so when you listen to the best male growlers like Alex Terrible from Slaughter To Prevail and Randy Blythe from Lamb Of God, they can effortlessly growl as low as the lowest growls Tatiana can push for and can push even lower. Tatiana isn't doing her low growls here, btw - this is just a bit lower than her most comfortable default growls. If you want to see how low she can go, check out Who Is Gonna Be The One official live for a classic performance or Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev for a more modern performance of her really low growls.
Even if it does take 10 minutes of fluff to get there.....
@@NurBull That really is Tati doing her very own growling. Go watch any of their live-on-stage performances (just read through the suggestion comments here and you will find plenty to chase down). :)
She uses false cords, real low, and protects her voice. Total beast. Do not recommend to anyone who doesn't take it slow.
Lol!😀
It’s definitely a force to learn and an on-going learning process. But when you start to get it OH MY. It feels so good.
Me: a Jinger fan
Also me: instantly knowing the Hilary Duff song without having to look it up
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Listen to perennial live next lol
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Yeah, this.. shows she doesn't need time to recover between cleans and screams.
Yup, best live preformenc to see her skills 🤟.
Wacken 2019!
Teacher teacher is a great song
Her: seems so nice
Me: walks outside to get a cigarette cuz it’s about to go down.
Lol!😁
She absolutely sounds like that live. It's absurd how talented she is. English isn't even her second language and she writes pretty much everything in English. And let's not forget the band who are just simply phenomenal. If you want something more soulful from them checkout Outlander. If you wanna see her do it live your best bet would be Perrenial(Live at Wacken). I absolutely adore you and enjoyed the reaction. You actually bother to learn about what you're reacting to.
Thank you for your suggestion!😀
Having seen them live twice, yes, just as good, if not better live. She can do some of the Travis from cattle decap tunnel/pig growl type shit too...
I actually saw them live i can confirm
No other woman has a deeper growl. Tatiana is a god.
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Ira sidenko (dehydrated) enough said.
Angela Gossow.
@@silversurfer4680 so glad someone said Angela 💙
Please check out The Zen Of Screaming by Melissa Cross, I think it would intrigue you.
Me sitting here wearing a Jinjer shirt and Slayer socks. Like yeah, Hillary Duff!
Lol! Yaaass! That's hilarious! 😁🎶
real question is tho, where do i get me some Slayer socks ?
Tatiana is not the only woman who is capable of such deep and powerful growls, but she is among the best in the business currently. If you are interested in learning more about it, there's another youtube channel, Voice Hacks, with Mary Z, who is a metal singer who's done a lot of growling herself, and she teaches people how it works and to do it safely.
Mary's old band Luna Mortis is awesome.
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"I was not expecting that." -- and that my dear, is the reason people love to request this video for first time reactions to singers and vocal coaches. Watching the reactions of people who have no idea what is coming is the most entertaining part.
😊
Haha
Haha same for myself as a Devin Townsend reaction hobbyist 😂
Not even just singer or vocal coaches. Just reaction channels in general.
Yeah, the shock factor is glorious! :)
I love Kardavox Academy's explanation of her vocals, he does a very good job explaining all types of metal screams and vocal fry
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Metal vocalist here! She uses the same sort of growling technique that I do, which utilizes the false vocal folds to make those noises. The vocal chords themselves are relaxed and not doing anything while she's growling, and the sound of it of course comes down to individual physiology, some people will simply have a different pitch range than others, regardless of what their actual voice sounds like. Breath support is very important, and the sound should feel as though its coming from the front of your face, above the mouth. If you'd like a more thorough explanation, I'd highly recommend watching The Zen of Screaming by Melissa Cross. Hope this explains what she's doing at least a little bit, cheers!
Are the vocal chords completely relaxed? I know for my growls I use both false chord and fry in conjunction with a good amount of compression to make one sound. And as far I know it’s completely safe and it doesn’t hurt at all, and I can hold a growl for ~10 seconds.
@@tevildo9383 For me yes, I find that if I try to add my vocal chords into my growls it hurts and wrecks my voice near immediately. From what I can hear it sounds as though that's what Tatiana is doing as well, though this is going to come down to individual physiology of course. Devin Townsend and Joe Duplantier for example both seem to have the ability to mix and match their false chords and their vocal chords without much or any penalty, but people that can do that seem to be rather few and far between.
@@werewolf2003002 Interesting. With my vocals, I can reverse engineer the entire sound down into the 3 individual parts (false chord, fry, and compression). But I find it completely different from trying to add vocal tone over the false chord growl, which is something that I cannot do yet.
@@tevildo9383 I think the vocal chords are SUPPOSED to be relaxed. This way, you can do screams/growls AND clean vocals without one type hurting the other. I could see where once in a while a vocalist might slip up and enter vocal chords while growling, but it will be rare and I hope never in front of a crowd...
@@jamescurfman3284 I think it mostly depends on your style.
Fun fact: I accidentally taught myself to make these noises while I was working as an actor at a haunted house in high school. At the time, I had never heard of singing like this 😆
LOL! 😍
I just got it naturally. Too bad I'm too much of a lame ass to do anything about it though.. 😔
@@ubergnu randy blythe from lamb of god has it naturally. He is considered of of the best to ever do it.
For me it was the Nazgul in LoTR. To hit those high fries I had to build from the lower registers. Inhaling was actually easier at first. Then I learned to use that sharp exhale. Then I learned to alternate. Kept that scream going for a while. I ain't 19 anymore, and smoking doesn't help, but I can still pull off some screams well enough.
I missed most of the premiere so watching again. I've seen nearly every Jinjer reaction on YT, and yours might just be the very best of all of them. Kudos for checking out the lyrics and researching growling technique. :D Unfortunately, this video is only live-ish, with a lot of post-production editing. That said, I've seen them twice and Tatiana is amazing in concert. Perennial live at Wacken (pronounced "Vah-ken" cuz it is in Germany) is a great video showing what she can do on stage. It is the last song in the set and at the end Tatiana is obviously out of breath, but you wouldn't have known from her singing.
Btw, Tati was inspired to sing metal by hearing another female growler Otep and being shocked when she found out that Otep is a woman. Now she's passing on that feeling to others. ;) Ghost Flowers from the Confrontation DVD is a good video by Otep.
To put her growls into perspective, she spent 4 years practicing growls while singing with clean vocals in various bands before starting to perform with growls, she _says_ her growls were still terrible at that point and only got good after performing with growls for part of 2009 in another band before she was recruited to join Jinjer as the original vocalist was leaving. And then she's been performing with growls another decade after that and is steadily improving her technique constantly. Another legendary growler Randy Blythe was a classically trained singer who first tried growling as a joke but then started doing it professionally - he worked with Melissa Cross to perfect his technique and learn to protect his vocal cords too though.
Tatiana's anger and frustration is heavily rooted in environmentalism, with a secondary focus on freedom of thought and expression, and antipathy toward authority and mass culture. About 2/3 of their songs have some kind of environmental, social, or political theme. Having grown up in the wake of the Soviet collapse, but also dealing with the entrenched Soviet culture and environmental destruction caused by that regime certainly plays into it. Tati also struggles with chronic depression, and that feeds into some of their songs like "Pisces", "Perennial", and "Pit Of Consciousness". Leaving everything behind when the fled the war burned their bridges behind them, so they had nothing left but the band and the imperative to succeed at all costs to give that sacrifice meaning. Since then they have been touring nearly constantly until the pandemic forced them to take an extended vacation. Their songs "I Want It I'll Get It", "When Two Empires Collide", and "Home Back" are about the war and having to leave their homes.
If you are interested in a deep dive on who Tatiana is, there is an interview with her in Psychology Today that has an enormous amount of information about her as a person, musician, and about the band as well. It is quite sad to read, but she seems to be doing better these days since she's been dating (and now engaged to?) Alex Lopez, the drummer of another up-and-coming metal band called Suicide Silence. Though as a rule, relationships don't fix that stuff, at least it can hopefully make the struggle more bearable.
p.s. cute lion emogi. She certainly roars. If you see a video of her at Wacken, she has a throat tattoo of the face of the mesoamerican dragon-god of wind and learning, Quetzalcoatl, and the throat chakra represents the power of communication so that seems appropriate.
I hope the band appreciate your work here on the Toob #JinjerJeff!!
Outstanding work getting folks up to speed. :)
Always enjoy reading your comments Jeffrey. Big Jinjer fan myself and I'm always learning new stuff from you.
It's always fun sharing stuff with people who are curious. :) and what am I gonna do let it sit in my head? Haha
Wow thanks for the 411. Much appreciated.
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I've been a death metal vocalist for several years, and even I don't like the descriptions used in the "tutorial" you were looking at. I NEVER forcefully exhale, and If you look at Tatiana as she's doing her growled vocals, she looks very relaxed, as it should be. Watch her neck when she's growling, it looks quite relaxed, if she were forcing, as the tutorial suggested, it would be VERY obvious.
What I would suggest, if you really want to find out more about this form of singing, and how it's done, even just out of curiosity, is to look up a DVD called "The Zen of Screaming" it's how I learned to perfect my death metal vocal style. It's a professional vocal coach who has trained a great many very famous vocalists in metal.
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I also prefer the relaxed state for low and mid, but I struggle trying to do highs idk proper technique for doing highs. I always figures so long as it doesn't hurt or feel strained it's acceptable
The only way I can see ppl singing like that is if they let their inner demon possess their voice ... no offense... everyone of us has demon inside us ...including me
I straight become Mr Burns when I know someone is reacting to Jinjer - Pisces for the first time
_eeexcellent_ *rubs hands together*
Fuckin right
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If you want to see a very good live performance from Jinjer, I suggest “Who’s gonna be the one.” Live. One of my favorite bands 😁
Yeeessss this song especially the live one is so awesome.
Beautiful display of what they are capable of.
Drogvolbur Krovaak Yah, I actually downloaded the Live version vs the album version because I liked it sooo much better!
Love that song, too
@@TheMonkeyBytes Glad to know I'm not the only one that prefers listening to he live
Teacher teacher
Try Spiritbox "Rule of Nines", Courtney LaPlante live one-take version. Good video highlighting another metal singer.
It's sooooo good!
YES ! More people need to listen to Spiritbox .
Hellyeah!
But The Mara Effect live @ Silverside Sound though
YES! I love that performance.
@@nicholasdoyle7715 yeah dude! The Mara Effect live at studio is amazing!!!
Tati's voice is all natural.
A mix of growls, fries and all other such goodness.
Perennial live at wacken is her singing a lot more, and it’s live in an outdoor venue
She should definitely react to that one.
definitely !
"Let's keep on watching the professional do it"
Me, who knows she's a self-taught screamer: "Yeahhhh, about that"
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Oh she def a professional
Love yo hear your false cords
@@samx36
Yes Tatiana sure is pro, but she is a self taught pro..
Great reaction!!! Your next excursion into the realm of Jinjer should definitely be Perennial Live at Wacken...
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
This is her real voice she can growl without mic. JinJer is awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have heard that come out of a couple of my GF's when I forgot to fill the dishwasher ;--)
noobs: that sound can't come out of a woman!
Arch Enemy: hold my vocals...
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also Arch enemy: actually, give me my vocals back, i have nothing to do here...
*Som Pluijmers laughs in the background*
@@deusvultinfidel She should check out Cerebral Bore.
@@ejobenza yep
Lol that was so cute! When you were reaching to make the same growl sound it reminded me of Simba trying to roar like Mufasa 💚 9:53
Lol!😀
It's so liberating to try. Love the vocal coaches that try it.
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I don’t like songs that are all growl, so the way that Tatiana mixes real singing, and growling is a great contrast! The musicianship of the band is amazing!
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Heh. Now you need to see Floor Jansen with Nightwish growling in "Yours is an empty hope"
Yes to this.
The Wembley version.
I love Floor also but come on she never growled. Even with Disdain title
She growls, but it’s not nearly as strong compared to this.
@@stephaneg.7373 We are not talking about the same Floor Jansen, then. Are you REALLY telling me that is NOT her? Come on, buddy. Don't troll.
That was undoubtfuly the most authentic reaction from Tatiana's fry vocal technique. It's amazing seeing you guys not so used to listen to guttural singing. Tatiana is amazing. I had to subscribe to your channel since I'm into all music genres and people talking about it, enjoying it, no preconceptions whatsoever, is fantastic. Glad to see more and more people discovering that music and art are not only about what they like to consume. Best regards and keep up with your videos.
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I loved what you wrote. I'm a musician living in Finland and I'm also into all kinds of music. I especially liked when you wrote: "Glad to see more and more people discovering that music and art are not only about what they like to consume". Take care and I wish you have a wonderful day.
Next - The HU, song "Wolf Totem"
Definitely Wolf Totem!
Yuve yuve yu is a great one too
The Hu featuring Lzzy Hale - I am Woman.
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
@@rwxstudio7173 Nah. I'm not a fan of floundering musicians glomming on to the recent "hot" thing.
Saw them in concert a few months ago and was amazed she could sing that way through an entire show. I remember after going ok, that is 1 show which was perfect, multiplied by how many other shows.. Unbelievable, a true master. And she is so sweet in person.
They said in an interview that they added some vocal overdubs, but she doesn't sound much different live. The Pisces theme fits the dual vocals perfectly. The sign of Pisces has 2 fish swimming in opposite directions, and this represents her internal conflict. She wants love ( "being hooked" ), but is "skittish" because of bad experiences she's had in the past at the hands of "callous men" and "handsome butchers". I take it "emeralds being ripped away" refers to her iridescent fish scales. One reactor said that her voice change reminded him of his ex-wife - before, and after marriage.
It actually says about the overdubs and such in the video description for Pisces (Very few people ever look at the "Show More" section of the description)
Literally all the growls are double vocals. But thats nothing strange, very common when recording metal
As others have said, for a studio music video, overdubs and touch ups are totally normal. You can hear the low parts kicking in and filling out out.
But she’s every bit as great with growls live. Their set from Waken is just absolutely amazing.
well its in the title anyway, Live Session=/=Live but non-musicians don't usually know the difference :)
@@allofyourdreamsSometimes whole studio albums are recorded live. Doesnt mean it's unedited. But they already addressed that so
I have read, and the band has reiterated in interviews, that their method of composition is unique. For most of their tracks, the guys write pieces of music. They don’t yet have titles, lyrics or melodies. They present these pieces of music to Tatiana, who writes the lyrics, titles and determines the melodies and where/when she will transition from clean vocals to extreme and back. She writes deep and meaningful poetry. She does her own makeup and even makes many of her outfits. She is also a photographer, an artist (paint)... Simply amazing. The band members are all top notch musicians.
Yes, absolutely world-class all around. I am so glad they are together as a band! :)
Healthy growls will happen in the false vocal folds (usually) at a fairly low volume and then resonate in the soft palette and nasal passage. Adjusting your mouth shape as well as the amount of tension in your cheeks will allow you to produce different pitches and tones.
This is much different than adding some fry to your vocals which uses your true vocal folds.
If you're doing it correctly, just as with singing, you should feel no pain and shouldn't feel worn out from it unless it's a lengthy set.
Also 🦁
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It actually uses very little breath when done correctly.
"Hoping to hear something different" - oh it's different alright. 😁
"Something that's different and new.."
Everyone thats heard it "oh its different alright"
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7:57 Bro her reaction🤣🤣🤣, she blinked and just sat there shocked, I like that kind of reaction because you're SOO shocked all you can do is sit there and stare because you have no words to describe what you saw or heard
Also I'd be grabbing my jaw too if I had it dropped for 30 seconds
That’s what we call the “Shooketh Moment”.
For good info/demos on metal vocals I would check out VoiceHacks. It’s a channel with videos by a female metal vocalist/vocal coach. Loved the reaction! 🦁
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Aye Mary Z knows her stuff. I believe she even did a video all about Tatiana's vocal style and how to achieve something similar
That's a really good channel man. She is a great vocalist too
"She sounds like a puppy" you didn't know how that puppy could bark, huh? XD
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@@maggiereneemusic I'll be there ;) thank you, B-E-A-U-TIFUL!!
Great reaction! Floor Jansen growls too, check: Nightwish "Yours is an empty hope" live version. :)
And as far as Floor goes, when she was in Revamp they did a song called Disdain. :)
Although Floor as a Blonde really threw me off for a second. I would not have recognized her without the context first. GORGEOUS!
Thank you for your suggestion! Hope to see you at my new NIGHTWISH reaction video Premiere tomorrow morning?
Jinjer is the band that brought me back to music.
So glad! Invite your friends to the Premiere! 😍
@@maggiereneemusic Is this studio live or Wacken live? I hope it is the studio.
@@oldmanjimh3165 They are in a studio. 😁
Honestly same my man haha
Haha exactly, me too!
Well. Get ready Maggie. You will never be the same )))
Lol! Can't wait! 😀
Your face at 10:53 is the inspiration for songs like this. Everyone's felt a feeling that makes you scrunch your face with emotion, whether it's anger, despair, power etc. Metal channels that in music form.
I think metal is lost on a lot of people who assume it's just noise for angry men. Jinjer's contrast between cleans and gutterals short cuircuits this because you get to see why the growls are used and how beautiful they can be. Anger and power have their place, and more people need to let theirs out in a healthy, productive way.
I love how you didn't lose a second and started learning how to growl with Google!
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This reaction was EVERYTHING I'd hoped for!!! Thank you for reacting to this.🦁🦁🦁
Very sweet! Thank you for watching my video until the end. I appreciate it. 😁❤🦁
i scour youtube looking for reactions to this song by professional singers and voice coaches just to see their face. it is literally always priceless.
what we need is "Maggie's Parents React to Jinjer - Piesces" xD
LOL! 😁
I dig it
I love her.... my family comes from the Ukraine as well... the way she flips back and forth is so awesome!! Great reaction 🦁
She uses a technique called “false cord” screaming.
Thanks for the info!😁
@@maggiereneemusic Tati has said she doesn't call it screaming or growling. She calls it extreme vocals and doesn't like to do it unless there's music accompanying her.
@@TomClark-Futoura I'm surprised she doesn't use it when she gets bad service at restaurants... or babysitting bratty kids who don't want to go to bed.
I thought she was more of low fry vocals, suppose I need to listen a bit closer
@@Capthowdy098 Im pretty sure it's fry...
9:17 quite possible. Metalheads are impressed by how good she is, not that she's a woman. That bit isn't particularly surprising.
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@@maggiereneemusic Btw, for an example you might enjoy, check out Spiritbox - Blessed Be.
@@finkn 😊
Melissa Cross is a well-known teacher of vocal distortion.
Thanks for the info!😊
Very welcome 👍🏽
Hello Maggie, your reaction is very funny to watch :-) I have seen a lot of bands live. Everything that has rank and name in rock, metal and harder. Jinjer was by far the best I have ever seen live. The precision of the musicians is simply indescribable and Tatjana's voice is amazing. Hopefully they will come to Austria again soon. Looking forward to more reactions from you, stay healthy and all the best! Martin, biggest Jinjer fan after my son ;)
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The clean parts of this song reminds me SO hard of Incubus. That's not a bad thing at all.
You , my friend... are gonna need some early ‘Queensryche’ in your life. ‘Take Hold Of The Flame’ live, would be a good start.
Thank you for your suggestion! Did you like my new reaction video to a folk metal band from Mongolia I just posted?
"Her voice sounds so pop-y"
Oh this is gonna be good
Best part about it - she wasn't wrong :)
Melissa Cross teaches growling to professional metal bands.
Thanks for the info! 😀
@@maggiereneemusic also, check out Arch Enemy. Their current vocalist also switches between clean and growling vocals, namely Reason to Believe, but they've got some really good tracks off the whole album Will to Power.
sw10mm she should definitely check her out
she also has a pretty long casualty list . . .
@@Midorikawa Alyssa white-glutz is a monster she was also with the agonist. Another fun fact about her look her up trying out for idol I believe in Canada she completely blew the judges away
Teacher Teacher should be next ☺️
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Definitely!
yepp :)
I know I asked for this song and I know a bunch of other people did to and on behalf of all of us...we set you up sis. We knew you wasnt ready. 🤣🤣 great reaction keep up the good work! 👍👍
Lol! Thanks! 😀
Kittie is a female metal band with growls. Albeit, not quite with this intensity.
Otep is right there too
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If you search TH-cam, you will find quite a few bands with female leads who growl, but none do it as well as Tatiana, IMO.
You should check out “Abyss” by Unleash the Archers.
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
@@maggiereneemusic See my other comment for more, but I would suggest starting with "Awakening" instead of "Abyss", because Abyss is from their upcoming album, which is a continuation of the story told in the previous album, "Apex". Considering you're an opera singer, the continuity of the story might be a little confusing if you jump in to essentially book 2 without knowing book 1. There are track-by-track breakdowns of the story out there as well. Happy to assist!
Omg yes unleash the archers! ♡♡♡
@@drumlord8772 You make a very good point.
This is by far the best and most genuine reaction to Jinjer I’ve ever seen. You should do more metal. Arch Enemy I believe also has a woman singer who does roars and toilet bowl gutterals. It’s a very very fun and diverse genre.
Thank you for your suggestion! Did you like my new reaction video to a folk metal band from Mongolia I just posted?
I never get tired of watching people react to Tatjanas voice for the first time :D
I'd love to see you react to the live version of Sober by Tool, that one's definitely worth checking out.
Thank you for your suggestion!😁
Metal is the closest modern genre to classical music in both structure and style. A lot of metal bands incorporate jazz and classical music directly into their songs.
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So this song Pisces is about Tatiana. She’s “a Pisces” and she feels very uncomfortable in crowds and dealing with new people. So it’s about her being “skittish” and the other parts of her personality.
Thanks for the info!😍
🎯 🤍
I- i share a zodiac sign with my favorite singer-
Weak interpretation dude it’s about a lot more than thay
@@sonja7halcyon Obviously I made a general interpretation of the song and not a 8k page paper dissecting the song because this is youtube and nobody want to read 8 million words.
The shock didn’t disappoint
Lol! 😁
@@maggiereneemusic We try this with every new reactor on TH-cam. Most of the time it works 🤣. But while we are collecting suggestions:
"Helvegen" by Wardruna, featuring Aurora. If you enjoy Heilung and The Hu, you might like Wardruna as well.
"This band sounds chill"
Titiana: "Here....hold my beer"
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i have seen so mamy reactions to this song, and its so refreshing to see someone, after admitting they dont know whats happening, look it up and try to figure it out. props to you! i hope you'll check out one of their live performances (either "perennial" at wacken 2019 or "who is gonna be the one" live, posted by napalm records), the whole band is fantastic live. the latter recommendation has less vocal diversity (to my non singer ears anyways, i could be totally wrong) but she growls REALLY low in it so thats always fun.
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This is a re-recording of this song, which was actually done to show off their new drummer. The “doubling” is most likely the layering she did originally, and it was added to this session.
Thanks for the info! 😀
You should watch a live show of theirs and you'll be STUNNED by how this girl can pull off combining both vocal techniques with almost no effort. I am DYING to meet ANYONE who can impress me at the level Tatiana Shmailyuk did when I first listened to Jinjer. Also, I'd give an arm to have a singer like her in my studio
Thanks for the info! 😊
Mike Patton Faith No More.
I saw them in Grand Rapids before COVID. Absolutely amazing to witness. Imagine her singing all of that on top of jumping around stage.
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She is even more powerful live in concert. Jinjer are amazing
This song has literally reaction after reaction in minutes! Also I recommend a band called Spiritbox. They also have a female vocalist and believe me, you're going to be either relaxed or moshing when you hear their song "Blessed Be".
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So, now the can of worms is open.
If you want to see the grand godmother of female growling and guttural extreme paired with brutal but melodic instrumental excellence in a breathtaking live show, watch the classic swedish death metal from Arch Enemy with the old vocalist Angela Gossow from Germany. Best track to get into it:
Arch Enemy (Angela Gossow) - Nemesis. 2008. (Japan)
And you may be surprised how much energy comes out of these people after the main set is already played! Awesome concert, awesome music, awesome crowd!
And if you want to see the bleeding edge of modern metalcore, female singing with the beautiful and the extreme in a really fresh and skillful piece of art, you should for sure listen to Courtney LaPlante in the Band "Spiritbox" I can full-heartedly recommend the track "Rule of Nines". Assume that she does it live in one studiotake if she wants, just like Tatiana, but really want to see the video. Because all their videos are pieces of art. And not one bad track at all.
(Same for Jinjer, btw.. Pick any official video of them and go crazy about quality and art.)
You might think i am exaggerating. Well - judge by yourself. I am not easy to impress when it comes to music.
And to not forget there are male singers that make the same switch for aesthetical and artistic reason, esp. in newer time, I want to also recommend any of the two video releases of Whitechapel from their last (concept) album, that reflect a very personal story of the singer, who's mother struggled with shizophrenia and died when he was a child. Hard stuff (deathgrind / metalcore) but with beautifully implemented clean sections that have somehow even Tool-like qualities. Look out for "Hickory Creek" and "When a demon defiles a witch". After many years the singer tried clean singing, and it turns out really beautiful. Of course with great lyrics as well. Tatiana and Courtney are also great lyricists. as you may easily acknowledge when diving into these bands. Try it out.
Thank you for your detailed comment!😀
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@@maggiereneemusic Oh, it is easy to support people with recommendations that are willing to come out of their comfort zone to check out genres they never got into before.
For the love of music. :-)
I think you would like Maria Brink. Specifically her song “Fighter”. She is a metal front woman of In This Moment, but this song is more lyrical, less screamy.
Also, for a real turn of cheek (musically) check out “Woman Song”, by The HU, a Mongolian metal band, the one featuring Lzzy Hale, of Halestorm.
I love Maria as well but, no offense intended, nothing to do with Tatiana's false cords vocals... it's something different. She's got a unique technique, and I think there is no other singer in the galaxy that can do what Tatiana does at that level... Yes, you have Courtney from Spiritbox, and Alyssa from Arch Enemy, and some more... but none of them have that low growls Tatiana is able to do. Don't get me wrong. I love "In this moment" but nothing to do with this.
@ I'm in the same boat. I feel like there is 0% overlap between the two. But I still love Maria Brink and ITM, and The Fighter is an incredibly beautiful song - the comments section is hard to read, but a testament to how much their music means to a lot of people.
@ check out a band called Vintersea, if you don't know about them already, then get back to me on the deep growls that only Tatiana can do.
I love Jinjer, and I still listen to The Agonist from the Alissa era, and Spiritbox is awesome. Arch Enemy just doesn't do it for me.
Avienne from Vintersea is a better vocalist than anyone mentioned here. The rest of the band members I think are also better and Vintersea has top notch composition.
Lizzy hale and maria brink are trash.
@@nicholasdoyle7715 I heard a couple of songs from vintersea... Maybe I didn't choose the right ones but I wasn't particulary impressed. I still think Tatiana still has the best vocal range. And I wouldn't call trash any kind of singer or band (ok... Reaggeton is), just different. Lzzy Hale and Maria Brink are just another ballpark
@ I would call trash trash. Brink is a sellout plain and simple, never cared for Hale, always sounds the same, like listening to any Godsmack or Mudvayne album on repeat.
Like I said I love Jinjer, but Avienne from Vintersea shows more vocal range.
Have you tried listening to the songs Crevasse, Crack of Light, Firey Tongue or Illuminated?
with the vocal doubling effect tatiana vocal training is so tight that the track she has her vocals in a slightly different pitch so it gives a cool effect (also imagine being comfortable enough that you know you are gonna hit every que and on pitch you could be your own background singer) she is absolutely amazing